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Speaker 1: What is going on? Everybody? John middlecop three an album podcast?

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Speaker 1: How about dem Cowboys? Uh? That was ugly? That was ugly?

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Speaker 1: My my guy, Matt Naggie. As of recording this, it's

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Speaker 1: nothing official. But did that end Jason Garrett's career? But

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Speaker 1: like Troy Aikman said, who are they going to replace

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Speaker 1: him with? What? What? A what an ugly game by

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Speaker 1: off the top, of course. Uh. I like how the

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Speaker 1: the Thursday, so they get a full week's rest and

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Speaker 1: a dying breed in this modern day NFL. H Urban Meyer,

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Speaker 1: you know, and the botched I guess the USC went

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Speaker 1: They kept Clay Helton. Just a disaster at USC, you know,

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Speaker 1: The conference needs USC to be good right now. All

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Speaker 1: the good teams are in the North Oregon, Washington. Stanford

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Speaker 1: USC is just a ship show. So we'll dive into that,

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Speaker 1: and then I'll go through every game. Uh, Sunday, we

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Speaker 1: got a lot of games, and Middlecoff mail bag as

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Speaker 1: always at John Middlecoff. At John Middlecoff is my Instagram handle.

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Speaker 1: You slide up in those d m s and then

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Speaker 1: I answer your questions on the podcast. Uh, same as

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Speaker 1: my Twitter handle. Just holler at me. Okay, let's start

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Speaker 1: with the game. Let me start with a big picture thought.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine many of you agree. I think Florio

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Speaker 1: winning your division in the NFL matters because of the time.

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Speaker 1: To win your division, you've gotta win like twelve games.

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Speaker 1: Just look around the NFL. I mean, every division is

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Speaker 1: in terms of their winners. If you win your division,

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Speaker 1: here's a rule that I propose after watching the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: If you don't go five hundred and you are a

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Speaker 1: team is officially just done. I'm tired of even talking

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Speaker 1: Their roster just gets worse and worse by the week

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Speaker 1: get quarterbacks make a lot of money, but under no

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Speaker 1: circumstances let me repeat, no circumstances. I don't care if

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Speaker 1: the cap goes to three hundred million. Would I feel

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Speaker 1: And I like Dak Prescott just like I said, under

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Speaker 1: this is pretty basic, like little league level stuff. But

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones will do enough talking for us all. He'll

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Speaker 1: surely make excuses And like Troy Aitman set on the

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Speaker 1: You just keep Jason Garrett, You let the Titanic sink,

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Speaker 1: deal and everyone Naggie sucks and you know, the Raiders

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Speaker 1: you know, talking to just buddies with the Bears, they

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Speaker 1: I can't even fathom giving him thirty plus million dollars

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Speaker 1: because the physical skills. He's really like a bigger version

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Speaker 1: money the consumer now wants it on their iPad us

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Speaker 1: on their television. The game's changed, like newspapers are still alive.

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Speaker 1: They died a long time ago. And it got me

429
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Speaker 1: thinking when Ron Rivera was fired, are this day and

430
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: age of the CEO head coach is dead? Will a

431
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Speaker 1: quote unquote CEO head coach ever get hired again? Now,

432
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Speaker 1: Ron Rivera will probably get a job because he's already

433
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Speaker 1: kind of established. But will any guy ever get a

434
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Speaker 1: job again without being like, I'm hiring you to be

435
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Speaker 1: my defensive offensive coordinator, and especially an offensive coordinator. I

436
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,920
Speaker 1: don't really think so. Now, if like John Harbaugh was fired,

437
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 1: he'd get a job Mike Tomlin, But those guys were

438
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Speaker 1: given the opportunity. Now, Rivera was a defensive coordinator, but

439
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,280
Speaker 1: he became a quote unquote ce CEO head coach pretty quickly.

440
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Speaker 1: When you look around the league, the best head coaches

441
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Speaker 1: are mainly colin plays and a lot of them are

442
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Speaker 1: on offense, but even defensively, I mean Pete Carroll has

443
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Speaker 1: a huge hand in the defense. Mike Zimmer calls defense obviously,

444
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Speaker 1: Andy Seawan, Payton Couch, Shanahan, Sean McVeagh, Matt Naggie, Doug Peterson,

445
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,679
Speaker 1: like all the top guys are calling plays. Belichick's an outlier.

446
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: I don't even can't count him. But like the day

447
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Speaker 1: and age of the quote unquote CEO types, I don't

448
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Speaker 1: think we're ever coming back because the one thing David

449
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 1: Tepper mentioned, like, yeah, the way the league's trending, just

450
00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: with the way the officiating works, you're gonna lean offense.

451
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Speaker 1: And when you think about your investment as a team,

452
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Speaker 1: the most money you're gonna spend on an individual player

453
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Speaker 1: is gonna be on the quarterback. Just look at Dak Prescott.

454
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Speaker 1: He's gonna get just stupid amount of money that's gonna

455
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Speaker 1: make me want to throw up. Jared Goff got forty

456
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 1: million dollars too much. Carson Wentz, who I love and

457
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Speaker 1: I'm not giving up on yet, got a lot of

458
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Speaker 1: money too, without really proven much. Mahomes, who's proved a lot,

459
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: is gonna get an astronomical amount. Russell Wilson, Aaron Rodgers,

460
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Speaker 1: now those guys deserve it. Cam Newton, all these guys

461
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Speaker 1: get a lot of money. So you're gonna lean kind

462
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Speaker 1: of offense, and then you're gonna want a guy that

463
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Speaker 1: can coach the quarterback because that's where you're investing. All

464
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Speaker 1: your resources, right because at the end of the day,

465
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Speaker 1: I need a defensive scheme guy. But like you just

466
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Speaker 1: kind of roll through defensive coordinators like they're only a

467
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Speaker 1: couple of Vic Fangio types out there. I think the

468
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Speaker 1: CEO type guy is not gonna happen much anymore because

469
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Speaker 1: I think these these owners are gonna be paying these

470
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Speaker 1: coaches so much money. It's easy to pay Andy Reid

471
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Speaker 1: and Sean Payton and Kyle shanahand a lot of money.

472
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Speaker 1: I know exactly what they're doing, Like I'm paying Ron Rivera.

473
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Speaker 1: And again, I think Ron Rivera is gonna get a

474
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Speaker 1: good job, and I think he's solid. I think he'd

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Speaker 1: be a mediate upgrade over the you know, Freddy Kitchens,

476
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,959
Speaker 1: who has no clue what he's doing, over Pat Shermer,

477
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 1: who's one of the worst head coaches in recent memory.

478
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Speaker 1: He could do either one of those. Hell, he can

479
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: just get Dallas to the playoffs next year. He's fine.

480
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Speaker 1: But I think a lot of guys like him aren't

481
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Speaker 1: gonna get that opportunity. One defensive coaches aren't really gonna

482
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Speaker 1: get hired. And people keep asking me, like, who are

483
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Speaker 1: the coaches this offseason? You know, the like Robert Salom

484
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: who's had a fantastic year for the forty niners and

485
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 1: their defense has been unreal Is he really gonna get

486
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: an opportunity now, he's gonna get some interviews. But if

487
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,959
Speaker 1: someone gonna hire he said, one good season's defensive uarter,

488
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Speaker 1: someone's gonna hire him to be their head coach? What

489
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: the hell does he know about a quarterback? I would

490
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Speaker 1: never at least Ron Rivera, who's a defensive guy, knows

491
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Speaker 1: how to act and operate around a star quarterback. Hell,

492
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Speaker 1: he's had a lot of successful Cam Newton, who's not

493
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Speaker 1: the easiest guy to coach. But I just think that

494
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Speaker 1: those guys, and they're mainly defensive guys, are kind of

495
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Speaker 1: a thing in the past, and they're really just they're

496
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Speaker 1: gonna be a dying breed because the majority of this league,

497
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Speaker 1: you're either gonna be If I'm gonna hire an defensive coach,

498
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Speaker 1: he's gonna call my defense. He ain't gonna be a

499
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Speaker 1: CEO head coach. And those guys are gonna be very

500
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Speaker 1: few and far between because most of the guys right

501
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Speaker 1: wrong or however you agree with it. You know McVeigh,

502
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: you know Kyle Shanahan, it's gonna be offensive coaches. That's

503
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: just a reality and a trend. And it's not just

504
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Speaker 1: a to me, it's not even trendy. It's just where

505
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,200
Speaker 1: the money is, where the resources are going, and how

506
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Speaker 1: the game is officiating. So these last kind of dying

507
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 1: breed of CEO coaches enjoy them while they're here because

508
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: they won't be here that much longer. Kind of like

509
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Speaker 1: the movie theaters Irishman highly highly recommend, might be strong,

510
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 1: but I've seen a lot of negative reaction. I personally

511
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Speaker 1: liked it. C g I a little much. No spoiler alerts,

512
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: I'd recommend watching. One thing that's kind of a pet

513
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Speaker 1: peeva mine is people that hold onto the past, people

514
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Speaker 1: that love bragging about things that they did, like you know,

515
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Speaker 1: thirty years ago or twenty years ago, or like, god,

516
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Speaker 1: you should date this bombshell in seven. It's like, bro,

517
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Speaker 1: it's two thousand nineteen. It's about now. If you're like

518
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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan or Tiger Woods or Warren Buffett, and I mean,

519
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: certain people can brag about certain things. And obviously with children,

520
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: your memories, we're all Thanksgiving talking about the good times.

521
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,159
Speaker 1: I'm talking about professionally, when you haven't done anything in

522
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Speaker 1: a long time. And I see it in my own

523
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: backyard with the San Francisco Giants. They love talking about

524
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: the World Series they won, you know, and I'm a

525
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 1: Giants fan, But two thousand ten is now ten years ago,

526
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve is eight, and obviously fourteen is now six.

527
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 1: The Giants should carry themselves like the Yankees. It's about today.

528
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 1: It's about winning now. You think Belichick or Saban like

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Speaker 1: are talking about their rings in two thousand one or

530
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Speaker 1: two thousand three. Hell, though, they are consumed with kicking

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Speaker 1: ass right now. Joe lacob I see it all. He's

532
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: consumed with these guys coming back trying to win a

533
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: chip next year. I like people that are consumed with

534
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: the now, trying to do whatever they can to win now,

535
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: not holding onto things in the past. And it's just

536
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Speaker 1: something that always bothers me about people that are like, man,

537
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: if I could just go back to college, It's like, bro,

538
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: your forty two, your life really sucks. That bad sucks

539
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 1: for you, you know, And obviously we've all done things

540
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: that are really fun we'd like to go back with.

541
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be like morbid here, but you know,

542
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: your life should get better and you should always be

543
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: aspiring to do better things. That's the way the world works, right,

544
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: And I think USC is at this spot where they're

545
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: like holding onto their past, like they have these good

546
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: times like the lion at Reggie Bush days, Like Landard's

547
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: got a kid. Now that's twelve, Land, it's like thirty

548
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: five years old. That's two thousand five, two thousand four,

549
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,240
Speaker 1: two thousand three. It's a long time ago. I had

550
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: Carson's on. He's now been retired for in the NFL.

551
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,199
Speaker 1: You have fifteen yr career for a while, Like you

552
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: guys need to get with the present. When I look

553
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: around all the top programs, and USC has no excuse

554
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: to not be an elite program, but there's two talking

555
00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,680
Speaker 1: about Pete Carroll would be like Alabama doesn't talk about

556
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: Bear Bryant all the time. They got Nick Freakin Saban,

557
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,160
Speaker 1: Ohio State's not holding on the about the days of

558
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 1: Woody Hayes. They went out and got Jim Trestl, then

559
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer. Now they got Ryan Day. You know, they

560
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 1: just do whatever it takes to win. Now, Clay Helton

561
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 1: seems like a nice guy, bald brother. I'm rooting for

562
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: all bald guys. He's not good enough to be at USC. Now,

563
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: I understand. I read a story today they went after

564
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Speaker 1: Bob Stoops. He actually makes a lot of sense because

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Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, who I is a better coach than Bob Stoops.

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Speaker 1: Urban's I'd say beside, Nick Saban is the best coach

567
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: probably of my lifetime in college. And you could argue

568
00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 1: you just put him in Nick Saban in a vacuum.

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Speaker 1: Of all the coaches I've watched, maybe Gus and and

570
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: Urban have the best chance to beat Nick. Like Urban's elite,

571
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: but he's got baggage. You know, he's got you say

572
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: what you want. I'm not saying he killed the guys,

573
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 1: but he Aaron Hernandez was on his watch. Dude killed

574
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Speaker 1: people at Florida. They were running like a drug operation

575
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: at Florida, just cheating scandals left and right. He left

576
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Speaker 1: that thing. A disaster at Ohio State, let's call it

577
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,280
Speaker 1: what it is. They you know, I'm pretty sure they

578
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: told Urban you gotta go, man, it's time for you

579
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: to go now. I know he works at Fox and

580
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: he's lovey dovey now, but he's got some blemishes on

581
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: his resume. Despite being elite head coach, and I personally

582
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: would have no issue hired a guy with baggage when

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00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: he's as good as Urban, but clearly USC had some

584
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: issues with it. They have if you Google or USC.

585
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: They've had scandals. They got a lot of ship going on.

586
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: They're just trying to get a clean resume. And that's

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Speaker 1: why Bob Stoops, who you heard, my buddy, if you've

588
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: listened to this podcast for a while. The head of

589
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Speaker 1: recruiting at Oklahoma who's now for Lincoln, Riley Drew Hill,

590
00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: who also got that job by Bob Stoops, has told

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Speaker 1: me multiple times, like Bob Stoops used to get in

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Speaker 1: front of the staff and say, if if I catch

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Speaker 1: any one of you guys cheating, uh, that ain't gonna

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Speaker 1: fly here. And he told every one of his staff

595
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: members if we catch anyone, he told I think he

596
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: told the Big Twelve if anyone cheats in this conference,

597
00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: I'm turning your ass in. There's a reason he hated

598
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 1: Art Browles. Art Browns was a cheater. Bob Stoops is

599
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,480
Speaker 1: a higher character guy in college's like the Ron rivera equivalent,

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00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:59,360
Speaker 1: except he's won a natty. And that's why I got

601
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: them going out for him. I actually think Bob Stops

602
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: would have been really good. Bob Stoops is a badass,

603
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: and he'd win there, and he'd win the right way

604
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 1: where Urban would do it sketchy, and he'd probably winn't

605
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: even bigger. But you have to have a plan of

606
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: like three or four guys. You can't roll back to

607
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: Clay Helton again. USC is too good of a program.

608
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: And what are they gonna keep playing like the Matt

609
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: Liner highlights all season when they're seven and five or

610
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 1: eight and four. That can't be acceptable. And there's also

611
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: bigger picture things here with the Pack twelve, the networks

612
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: not making enough money. They don't have a huge cash

613
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: to buy all these people out USC. They've got too

614
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: many chefs in the kitchen. Too many people are complaining

615
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: and want power with the coach. I know, if you

616
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: follow Petro Papadakis, who's a big radio personality, you also

617
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: played at USC. He's been saying it forever. They got

618
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: all these boosters and alumni and trustees. They all like

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00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: their you know, hand in the cookie jar. And Clay

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00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: Helton is a type guy you can push around where

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Speaker 1: the Urban Meyers, the Bob Stoops, the guys like that,

622
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 1: like Nick Saban is told what to do by nobody.

623
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: Dabo Sweeney tells everyone on campus what to do. Urban

624
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: Meyer was untouchable until that domestic violence thing happened, and

625
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: they it was even out of his control. But once

626
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: you get as big as those guys, even like Lincoln Riley,

627
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 1: it's been a short period of time and he's younger,

628
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,240
Speaker 1: so it's a little different personality, but like he's in

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00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,800
Speaker 1: complete control, you know. And USC needs to figure out

630
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: how to get a guy like that Chris Peterson. Now

631
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: Chris Peterson retired, he wouldn't come to l A. They

632
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: already turned him down. He turned them down, however it

633
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: went down. But USC has got to find themselves a

634
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: big time coach. They just do because when recruiting is

635
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: in like the seventies and Oregon, who actually is recruiting

636
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 1: like USC should be recruiting. And it's like the top ten,

637
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: top fifteen landing blue chip guys left and right. I

638
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: saw on Twitter tonight during the Thursday night game Herm

639
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: Edwards that some four star guy, some linebacker who's gonna

640
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: go to Arizona State next year, who like Alabama and Auburn,

641
00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 1: are offering like what's USC doing? USC is basically just

642
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: a little bit better version of the joke that is

643
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: U c l A football. They just happen to have

644
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: a winning record, But eight and four at USC might

645
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: as well be too. In ten, it's eight and four

646
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: is like, can you imagine saying, hey, Nick Saban, you

647
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:11,560
Speaker 1: just went eight and four? He jump off a bridge?

648
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: Can you imagine telling Lincoln Riley or DABBYL Sweeney what

649
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: do you think about eight and four? They puke in

650
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 1: their mouth. That should not be acceptable. And what the

651
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: reality is at USC is mediocrity and average is now acceptable,

652
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: and it's sad. And I get that times have changed

653
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: and it's not two thousand five anymore, but they still

654
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: have unlimited resources. They have an unlimited recruiting bank. And

655
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: it's kind of getting away from because now the top

656
00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 1: players in California are going to Oregon. Hell, they're going

657
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma, They're going to Alabama. I had a guy,

658
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: Naji Harris, I'm sure you saw it last week against Auburn,

659
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,880
Speaker 1: who's enormous, who is just a flue beast. He's from Antioch.

660
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,480
Speaker 1: He's literally grew up fifteen minutes away from where I'm sitting.

661
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: How does us back in the Pete Carroll Heyday? You

662
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: think that guy got out of California. You think of

663
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: Jeff Tedford and the Cow's hey Day like I would

664
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: have got out. Like what is going on here? And

665
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: maybe it's television. Maybe it's the way all these Auburn

666
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: and Alabama and Clemson, Ohio State now they're so national,

667
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: like it. It became national with Pete Carroll in the

668
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: early two thousand's, but it's never been more national. The

669
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 1: world's flat, obviously, the country's flat in terms of football players,

670
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,279
Speaker 1: and USC is just a dumpster fire. Okay, let's dive

671
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: into the games this weekend. And uh, I guess if

672
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: you're listening us on Friday, I like Utah. I'm rooting

673
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: for Utah. Don't feel great, you know, I think Utah.

674
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 1: You know, the games of Levi Stadium always kind of weird.

675
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: It might rain. I hope Utah wins. I think Ohio

676
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: State will be Wisconsin. Bad matchup for Wisconsin is way

677
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,000
Speaker 1: too many athletes. Virginia. I watched that game in Hawaii.

678
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 1: Virginia Virginia Tech. They're not terrible. I've always liked Bronco Mendenhall,

679
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: but Clemson is gonna be too much. And then L

680
00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: s U Georgia. I didn't know this, but I was

681
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: driving the other day and maybe Fine Bomb was on

682
00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: a channel kind of breaking down. I guess George's got

683
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries. I mean, L s U just

684
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: kind of feels like a team of destiny. L s U.

685
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State signed me up for that national championship, even

686
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: though I wouldn't sleep on Clemson, and Utah is better

687
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,920
Speaker 1: than a lot of people think. Though. If Utah wins

688
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 1: and wins closed and Oklahoma blows him out, it wouldn't

689
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 1: be crazy if Oklahoma gets in. But either way, I

690
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: think we're gonna get a really good final four. We

691
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: can't lose Ohio State, Clemson, l s U, Utah or Oklahoma.

692
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 1: I personally wouldn't mind Utah. Just just give me something fresh, uh,

693
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: I can dig that. Let's get into the NFL games.

694
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: It's gotta be one of the better games of the day.

695
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: Ravens at the Bills. Lamar Jackson's Barry Sanders with a

696
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: good arm. He's incredible. But this Bill's team is hot

697
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: right now. They're nine and three. They're nipping at the

698
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: Patriots heels. Their defense is fantastic. Sean McDermott's, you know,

699
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: a candidate for the Coach of the Year. Their defense

700
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: is fast, and the Niners defense is really fast, but

701
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: with that rain it neutralized them a little bit. And

702
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: they have this weird scheme where the defensive end took

703
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 1: the running act and no one took Lamar Jackson. I

704
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,880
Speaker 1: would imagine Sean McDermott tweaks what the Niners did and

705
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: attacks this Lamar Jackson running game a little differently. I

706
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,920
Speaker 1: don't know if the Bills went out right, but I

707
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 1: definitely like him. Plus the six and a half, this

708
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: is just a great game. I hope I get it

709
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: here in the Bay Area in the morning. I actually

710
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: probably won't because I get the Niner game Redskins at

711
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I mean, the Redskins are a joke. I

712
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 1: just the Green Bay Packers were kind of lucky that

713
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: after that Niners game, they got the Giants and then

714
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: the Redskins twelve and a half line I saw Rogers

715
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: was saying telling all the Packer fans to drink out

716
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: before the game. I don't think, Aaron, it doesn't really matter.

717
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: You guys are gonna kill these guys. I like the

718
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: Packers big in this game, and they're kind of in

719
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 1: the driver's seat headed into that game at Minnesota that

720
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 1: you know, depending on what happens in this Niners game,

721
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: and with New Orleans, like they're still in Seattle. Like

722
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: the Packers still control their own destiny for a one seed,

723
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: maybe not control their own destiny for a one seed,

724
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: but definitely control their own destiny for potentially a one

725
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: or two seed. And they're in the mix. Though I

726
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: don't think they're quite as good. But I was talking

727
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: to a buddying the league that was watching Rogers and

728
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: it was like, God, he's still so good. I mean

729
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,919
Speaker 1: when you look at their offense, like their old lines

730
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: just okay. DeVante is good, but he's been banged up

731
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: all season. Running backs are solid, but Jimmy Graham's kind

732
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: of a woos. They don't really have any other wide receivers,

733
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: and they're still gonna end up twelve and four. It's

734
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: really remarkable that that's when we talk about paying quarterbacks.

735
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Though I pay a hundred million dollars to Rogers Broncos

736
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: at the at the Houston Texans, listen, I thought the

737
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Houston Texans were gonna lose to the Patriots, and they

738
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,439
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson lit up that secondary like a Christmas Tree.

739
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: Denver is easily the best four and eight team of

740
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: all time. Their point differentials like minus thirty. I mean,

741
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: they have a point differential like a you know, much

742
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,399
Speaker 1: more like a six and six team than a four

743
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: and eight team. They're feisty. I would take the Broncos

744
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: plus six and a half in this game, but I

745
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 1: think the Texans. Watson's playing well, Hopkins is my favorite

746
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: player in the league, and when Will Fuller plays well,

747
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: they're just tough to be Drew locks. To go on

748
00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: the road and win a game against a playoff team

749
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: hard to see. The game of the day forty Niners

750
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: at the Saints. You know the forty Niners have their

751
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: tendant too, and their two losses or to walk off

752
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: field goals, they're clearly really good. They have two things

753
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,479
Speaker 1: to do well that travel well, defense and a run game.

754
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: They're gonna need that against the Saints. I actually think

755
00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 1: their defensive line matches up better against pocket quarterbacks Rogers

756
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: Breeze than it does like Kyler Russell and Lamar So.

757
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:38,320
Speaker 1: Dford's coming back with Nick Bosa, Eric Armstead DeForrest Buckner,

758
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: they should be able to get after Drew Brees. Ass

759
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: Now you know Latavius Murray, Alvin Kamara, you got Jared Cook,

760
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 1: You've got Michael Thomas. This team is good and the

761
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: defense is really good. That the Saints are awesome. If

762
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 1: the forty Niners go in there and win this game,

763
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: I'll be a little shocked. I know it's a two

764
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,800
Speaker 1: and a half point line, and I think the Niners

765
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: are really good. I think the Nighters go win the

766
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. But going on the road to win in

767
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: New Orleans. They've been away all week because played in Baltimore,

768
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 1: then they flew to Florida, then they're flying to New Orleans.

769
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: It's just it's not ideal. You know, this is set

770
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: up for the Saints to win, but this is you know,

771
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: the Saints getting extra rest because they played last Thanksgiving,

772
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 1: so they're getting a ten day arrest. I don't know, man,

773
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: I I just it's gonna be tough. I would take

774
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: the Saints and this is the Saints win this game.

775
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: They're eleven and two with wins over Seattle and San Francisco.

776
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,360
Speaker 1: They are a lock one or two seed, and I

777
00:39:36,360 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: think they're in the driver's seat for that one seed.

778
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: And who you know. I know the Rams win in

779
00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: their last year and beat him, but they're gonna lose

780
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: two years in a row at home in the playoffs

781
00:39:46,360 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: when they were the number one overall seed. Hard to

782
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: see Bengals at the Browns. No thoughts on the Bengals,

783
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: absolutely none. Odell Beckham said some comments like I don't

784
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:58,359
Speaker 1: even know where all being next year. You can say

785
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be in Cleveland. He a superstar

786
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 1: wasting away in Cleveland. This is he he wants out.

787
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: You can tell it's obvious he I wouldn't be shocked.

788
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 1: You want to hear my way too early offseason, random prediction,

789
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: he demands a trade, and you know what, I wouldn't

790
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: blame him. So I think the Browns win Carolina at Atlanta.

791
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: I actually kind of like the Panthers clearly, the things

792
00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: all the players were saying about Ron Rivera. I think

793
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: they're gonna take some pride this week Atlanta after those

794
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: two games, after they came out of the by and

795
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: one get out of here Atlanta, dan Quinn Packers. Shit.

796
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 1: Just a terrible season for the Falcons. I like Carolina

797
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: to come out swing and I I did. Had a

798
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: guy in the league tell me, and this has been

799
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players in the NFL now for

800
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: the last like six seven years that he's like, you know,

801
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: watching this guy, he doesn't quite look the same. And

802
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,400
Speaker 1: that's Luke Keikley, who just you know, looks a little

803
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: longer in the two of these had a bunch of injuries,

804
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: a little stiffer, still a good player, but his days

805
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: as an elite player probably over now. Ray Lewis, you know,

806
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: the second half of his career was no longer an

807
00:40:57,719 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: elite athlete. He was a little stiffer, and he still

808
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: was really good. So you can get by with instincts

809
00:41:02,200 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: and smarts and toughness. But the day in the age

810
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: of keik Lee just being you know, the the top

811
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 1: dog and middle linebacker, probably over Detroit at Minnesota Detroit

812
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: and justin shambles. They're a joke that they really are

813
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 1: a joke franchise. They tried to run themselves like New

814
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: England by low Sell high Sell high by low all

815
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 1: that bs and they're trading away good young ascending players too.

816
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:27,920
Speaker 1: Good teams like the Seattle Seahawks and Matt Stafford has

817
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: been banged up. I'm sure everyone in that building could

818
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: get fired and they would deserve it. It's just it's

819
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,840
Speaker 1: a dumpster fire. You know, Minnesota was really playing pretty

820
00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: well and that Monday night game up until Dalvin Cook

821
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: fumbled and it kind of derailed. Uh Now, I haven't

822
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 1: seen the latest on theeling. I would hold him out

823
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: for this game because you need him healthy for that

824
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: Packer game. So I like Minnesota now the twelve and

825
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: a half points, I'd probably take Detroit plus twelve and

826
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: a half, but Minnesota's gonna win this game. Miami at

827
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: the Jets. I I couldn't even pretend to have a

828
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: thought on this game. Beside the Dolphins play really hard.

829
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 1: I like watching Sam Donald play a little bit, but god,

830
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: that sucks. Like people really watching this game seriously, Like

831
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 1: if I worked in the NFL, I was like a

832
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 1: general manager or a scout and I had to go

833
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: to this game. It's like an advanced scout. That would suck.

834
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: I guess the game is not in maunt in New York,

835
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,359
Speaker 1: Indie at Tampa, and he's falling apart a little bit.

836
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 1: Ever since, uh, Jacoby got hurt. He's kind of been

837
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 1: a shell himself. He can't really move. He's not a

838
00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: great athlete to begin with. Uh, And I'm saying it

839
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: from the beginning. I have a lot of respect for Ballard,

840
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 1: but he he drafts and he builds his team with

841
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: a lot of overachievers. They don't really out talent guys

842
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: like you're going against Tampa Chris Godwin, Mike evans, O,

843
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: j Howard, Cameron Brad. You say what you want about James,

844
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: James canna make some big plays like they got some

845
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:55,080
Speaker 1: dudes and their offense has really been humming games in

846
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 1: Tampa there five and seven. It wouldn't totally shock me

847
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 1: if when all the dust settles, tamp Bay Buccaneers right Nate,

848
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: because they can really score. I don't see how Indie

849
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: scores with them. I like Tampa and basically Indie. If

850
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: if Indie loses this game by by playoffs, you're not

851
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,360
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. It's basically the playoffs. If the

852
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: Titans beat the Raiders, that would probably end it. Let's

853
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: talk about that game. The Raiders are probably the worst

854
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: six and six team in NFL history. Their point differential

855
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 1: is minus eight seven for example, the Chicago Bears were

856
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 1: six and six coming into today's game or tonight's game,

857
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: and their point differential differentials plus six or plus four,

858
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 1: like minus eight seven. That's that's like a three win team.

859
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: It's like the Detroit Lions. That's awful, you stink. I

860
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 1: think the Titans come in and Derrick Henry and Ryan

861
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: tanney Hill and they destroy the Raiders. The Raiders defense

862
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: is awful. Josh Jacobs, who's banged up as the Raiders

863
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: best player, if he can't just dominate, they have no shot,

864
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean none. That's why they're point differentials so terrible.

865
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: Was still with six wins because they get blown out

866
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: all all the time. So I like Tennessee big, and

867
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 1: I think Tennessee and Houston are both headed for the playoffs.

868
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: And we've got two games, you know, with three weeks remaining,

869
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 1: with those two teams playing for the FC South Chargers

870
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: at the Jacksonville Jaguars. I'm interested to watch Gardner Minshew.

871
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: You know, he's fulls fifty million guy benched Chargers four

872
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: and eight. Anthony lynn S really gonna get fired. Easy

873
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: to fire a guy when you're paying him, you know,

874
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: minimum wage version of coaching salaries. But that's Dean Spanos

875
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 1: for you. He's a minimum wage coaching salary guy. He's

876
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: the only guy in the NFL that can own a

877
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: team with so much talent and still suck. And that's

878
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: why he always pays, you know, coaches, not a lot

879
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: of money. And then he complains he's just he's a

880
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:43,799
Speaker 1: lifetime complainer, cheap and just kind of a historic loser.

881
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: Chiefs at New England. This game is pretty good, you know,

882
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: this game is really pretty good. The Chiefs are kind

883
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: of heating up. I think they're figuring a little bit

884
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: out on defense. And the good thing is their defense

885
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: is still not that good. But the Patriots offense is horrendous.

886
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: It is not good. They have no tight end. Their

887
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: running game is very hit or miss. They're depending on

888
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,759
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman, who has been banged up all season long.

889
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,840
Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers is hitting the rookie wall. He's an undrafted

890
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: free agent. Nikkil Harry, who I love, is coming back

891
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: off injury reserve. You can tell Tom Brady's getting frustrated

892
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: with them. Their offense just stinks, and the Chief's offense

893
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: is kind of hitting their stride. Mahomes getting a swag back.

894
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: Tyree Hill looks awesome, Kelsey looks awesome. They just make

895
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: plays with all their wide receivers. It's hard to bet

896
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,920
Speaker 1: against New England at home, but I kind of like

897
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs in this game definitely plus the three, and

898
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: I think they definitely have a chance to beat him.

899
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: This game is this game is gonna be good. If

900
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: New England loses, and especially they don't score any points

901
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,479
Speaker 1: against his Chief's defense, I think it's time to really

902
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: sound the alarm. And when I say sound the alarm,

903
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 1: like this team is not gonna win the super Bowl.

904
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: And I don't like for the last seven years, New

905
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: Englands gonna win the Super Bowl. New England's gonna win

906
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. Even on years when they didn't, I

907
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 1: felt confident they were going to do that. It's the

908
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: last game against the Houston Texans was the first time

909
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: I thought like, this team is not gonna win the

910
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. And if they lose this game at home

911
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs, when it's kind of not a must

912
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 1: win situation but kinda. They got the Bills coming up

913
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. You know, if the Bills

914
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: beat the Ravens, they'd be tied, even though New England

915
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: would have the tiebreaker because they beat him in Buffalo.

916
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Start getting a little interesting. Pittsburgh at Arizona. I don't

917
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: know how Pittsburgh's doing it. Mason Rudolph stinks he's now

918
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: bench Duck Hodges somehow beat Baker Mayfield. Their defense has

919
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,840
Speaker 1: been excellent. Juju was out last week, but they just

920
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 1: find ways to win. I I'd be hard pressed to

921
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: see the Steelers going into Arizona and losing a game.

922
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 1: The the the Arizona Cardinals laid one of the biggest

923
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: eggs of the year last week. I mean, they got

924
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:41,240
Speaker 1: boat raced by a team that had been playing so terribly.

925
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:44,520
Speaker 1: They made Jared goffolick John Elway. And anytime you make

926
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,160
Speaker 1: Jared goffolic John Elway, I got a massive red flag

927
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:52,200
Speaker 1: on your franchise. And I like the Steelers. Uh was? Oh?

928
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,600
Speaker 1: Then the night game is the Seattle Seahawks at the

929
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: l A Ramps. Listen, I I say, over and over,

930
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 1: I think Seattle one of the worst rosters that's ever

931
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: been tending to I think that speaks to the greatness

932
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: of Russell Wilson. I speaks. I think it speaks to

933
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 1: the greatness of Pete Carroll. I think it speaks to

934
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 1: the character of toughness that they have on their roster

935
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 1: because the talent isn't really there. But it's I find

936
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: it hard to bet against Seattle. Now that being said,

937
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,439
Speaker 1: night game l A. Not that that means that much.

938
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: I mean the Colosseum who even cares? Uh it actually

939
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: might be a decent usc crowd just there to support

940
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll. I hope l A wins because I want

941
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 1: to see the Niners get some home playoff games. But

942
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: I don't feel good about it, you know, I feel

943
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: like Seattle. I feel like Seattle and the Ravens right

944
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: now just have kind of the football gods on their

945
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,320
Speaker 1: side and just feel destined. Now. The Ravens are a

946
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,279
Speaker 1: little more talented, Like I don't know how Seattle is

947
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: doing it. I mean they're they're like handing them all there.

948
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 1: Shot Penny, I got Russell Wilson run around for his life.

949
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: I got no namers on defense making plays. It's it's

950
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,839
Speaker 1: really remarkable they win this game and the Niners lose.

951
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the Niners can just start getting ready for

952
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. With the Philadelphia Eagles and gross. Okay,

953
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: let's go Middlecoff mail bag at John Middlecoff, bang out

954
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: some of these questions Instagram slide right in those d ms.

955
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 1: Current graduate student at Humane and your show solid. My

956
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: guy appreciate it. I was curious to hear your thoughts

957
00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,799
Speaker 1: on how we are living in a reality where both

958
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Patriots and Alabama look highly vulnerable. That's a good question.

959
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: I think New England is just in a unique spot

960
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,440
Speaker 1: where you know, they had Gronk retired, They're just just

961
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: you just have an all time great retire You're just

962
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: kind of screwed. They drafted a first round wide receiver,

963
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: he got hurt and training camp so they didn't have

964
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: him all season. They attempted to do a Hail Mary

965
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: with Antonio Brown that blew up in their face, and

966
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 1: they're still tenant to you know. I think Alabama, their

967
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 1: defense was young, and as a guy in the league

968
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: told me earlier this year, they really the last couple

969
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: of years started to suffer from five, six, seven years

970
00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:01,560
Speaker 1: of go. If a guy was gonna be a third

971
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 1: or fourth round pick at Alabama, he just returned and

972
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 1: then next year he'd be a first or second. Now

973
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 1: those guys are leaving, so you you can't keep you know,

974
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: you're gonna have years if Georgia or l s U

975
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: is just good where you're gonna lose some of those games.

976
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 1: And I also think, you know, if two doesn't get hurt,

977
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: do they lose that game at at Auburn? I mean

978
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: I was playing golf during it. I was following it

979
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 1: on my phone. Did in the quarterback? I mean quarterback

980
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,440
Speaker 1: through a pick six? And he threw a couple of picks.

981
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: So you know, if two was there, they probably win

982
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 1: and they're probably in the playoff. You know, as crazy

983
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: that sounds that, I think, you know, football at the

984
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,680
Speaker 1: highest level is no different than the business at the

985
00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: highest level. The margins are just so slim when you're

986
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: talking about the best of the best, And it's just

987
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: I think you're seeing it with those two teams. Now,

988
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: they're still really well coached, they still got excellent players.

989
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 1: Would you ever count them out in a big game

990
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: like even that Auburn game they clearly wasn't Alabama's a

991
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,399
Speaker 1: game and it took miss field goals for them to lose.

992
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: Hey man, listen to both your pod religiously. Just curious

993
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,880
Speaker 1: of your career path I know you've been asking a

994
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: million times, but I had to ask. I was a

995
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: two way all state player in high school in Texas,

996
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: but Nickel headed my way out of college football a

997
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: D two level. Obviously, I need to work on my degree,

998
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: but what else can I do to get my foot

999
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: in the door to become maybe a scout or quality control.

1000
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: I would just start working in college football. You know

1001
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,759
Speaker 1: that That's always the easiest way. It's what I did

1002
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,120
Speaker 1: at cal Poly then at Fresno State. So wherever you live,

1003
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: get involved with the program, whether you live in a

1004
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: D two school, a D one double a school, and

1005
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: just start working. Because the way the coaching profession works,

1006
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,600
Speaker 1: it's got to be the most nomadic profession in all

1007
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 1: of America. Guys bounce around everywhere. I was just talking

1008
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: D M and with a coach tonight who interviewed for

1009
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 1: a job today and he's hoping to interview with another

1010
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:50,800
Speaker 1: job later next week and he actually just got fired

1011
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: from a job. So just the the profession is nuts,

1012
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: especially in college football. The turnovers crazy because in the NFL,

1013
00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: when you become a coordinator somewhere, if you don't get

1014
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 1: a head job, you just stay a coordinator there in

1015
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: college like guys move coordinator jobs that the movement is

1016
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: just insane, so I would get involved in college football.

1017
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 1: It was actually looking back, I had as much fun

1018
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: at Fresno State than I as it did in the NFL,

1019
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: and I had a good time in the NFL. It

1020
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,479
Speaker 1: was obviously more intense, but my time at Fresno State

1021
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: was awesome. I love the guys I worked with. It

1022
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: was sweet. In my opinion, the NFC as a whole

1023
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,080
Speaker 1: is totally better than the a f C due to

1024
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 1: more teams fight to get a playoff spot. With that

1025
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: being said, who is your favorite you think out of

1026
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: the NFC will win the Super Bowl? Well, I think

1027
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 1: the key to the NFC probably unlike the a f C,

1028
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: which probably anyone can win the a f C this

1029
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: year that gets in even Tennessee, like Tennessee b Kansas

1030
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 1: City this year. Why couldn't Tennessee beat the Patriots? You know?

1031
00:51:54,120 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 1: Why couldn't the Chiefs beat Lamar Jackson? I mean they did,

1032
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,439
Speaker 1: you know, So he's just I think the a FCS open.

1033
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: I think the NFC. If you tell me that New

1034
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 1: Orleans or Seattle get the number one seed, it's gonna

1035
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: be hard to beat those teams at home. It really is. Now.

1036
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 1: If you told me the Niners get home field, I

1037
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: do think Seattle, New Orleans, Minnesota, green Bay could come

1038
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 1: in and beat them. But I also think they would

1039
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: be If the Niners were to get home field, that

1040
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: would mean they beat New Orleans this weekend and beat Seattle.

1041
00:52:26,680 --> 00:52:28,480
Speaker 1: So I think whoever has the one or two seed

1042
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: and host the NFC Championship game is going to be

1043
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat to go to the Super Bowl.

1044
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: But beside the Cowboys or maybe the Eagles, I really

1045
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,640
Speaker 1: do think all five teams could win it. You know,

1046
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,880
Speaker 1: I know the Niners blew out the Packers, but I

1047
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,719
Speaker 1: think the Packers are they still had Aaron Rodgers. Even Minnesota,

1048
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: they're right there with Seattle. The Saints are really good.

1049
00:52:50,520 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 1: The NFC is gonna be a blood bath. Broncos fan,

1050
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: what will Drew Lock need to show the Broncos not

1051
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback early in the first round. I'll

1052
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,040
Speaker 1: be honest, I didn't watch one snap of that Charger game.

1053
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 1: At least from what I've read, it didn't look that terrible. Uh,

1054
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 1: you just need to show some growth to me, You

1055
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: just need to show the traits. You can make the throws,

1056
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,719
Speaker 1: maybe you can lead some touchdown drives. Wouldn't mind seeing

1057
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: like a late game winning drive. Uh, you know, I

1058
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: think you kind of know when you see it. If

1059
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: the guys just completely over his head and sucks for

1060
00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 1: the next four weeks, you might have to reevaluate. But

1061
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:28,879
Speaker 1: you could argue you just drafted in the second round.

1062
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 1: He's getting next year no matter what. You know, he's

1063
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:33,120
Speaker 1: gonna get to start next year, which I would imagine

1064
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: it is the case. Do you think the reason Josh

1065
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: Jacobs wasn't featured were mentioned in Hard Knocks was because

1066
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: Gruden knew he had something special and didn't want to

1067
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,360
Speaker 1: give the league of heads up. Kid already broke a

1068
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: thousand yards rushing, which is a rookie record. No, I

1069
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: think he. I think Josh Jacobs just didn't want to talk.

1070
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: I think that's it. I mean that he was drafting

1071
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 1: the first round. You know, he's his team starting running back.

1072
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,360
Speaker 1: So it's not like we're bringing this guy out of

1073
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,719
Speaker 1: the bullpen. No one's seen. Not everyone knew like they

1074
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 1: Josh Ja He played a fucking Alabama So I know

1075
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: what you're saying. But I don't think it had Gruden.

1076
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: I mean, Gruden was in front of the camera the

1077
00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: whole time. I think it was just Jacobs wanted no

1078
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 1: part of the camera. I think he's just a low

1079
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: key guy, you know. I think he comes from Alabama.

1080
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 1: He's wired like Saban, just no bullshit, just wants to

1081
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 1: kick ass and take names, and he's a He's a badass.

1082
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh has a winning record against Penn State in

1083
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: Michigan State and tied with Wisconsin. I'll take your lumps

1084
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 1: for ohiuse State. Yeah, but my point is those teams

1085
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,799
Speaker 1: beat his ass this year. So yeah, he's beat those

1086
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,680
Speaker 1: teams in the past. Well, James Franklin has now been

1087
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: there for years and built that team up. Paul Chris

1088
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: and Jim Leonard have now be built Wisconsin up and

1089
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: they're kicking his ass. I'm talking. I'm living in the

1090
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: president I'm not living three or four years ago. I'm

1091
00:54:47,640 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 1: talking now. I watched those games this year, Hardballs, fifth

1092
00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: year in the program. Every player in that program is hit.

1093
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: He Rubbert stamped every single player the scholarship, and he

1094
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,440
Speaker 1: got his ass kicked by Wisconsin and Penn State. They

1095
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: made a little bit of a comeback, but he got

1096
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: his ass kicked in the first half, Like that happened.

1097
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying. I'm a hard, bad guy,

1098
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: but this this year was not his crowning achievement against

1099
00:55:13,400 --> 00:55:18,520
Speaker 1: those three teams. Should the Browns consider he going after

1100
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: Ron Rivera? Seemed like he could bring some stability to

1101
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: the team and get the defense firing up to his

1102
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,799
Speaker 1: full potential. Also seems like someone who has that could

1103
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:28,920
Speaker 1: handle all the personalities. Obviously Freddie can't be the long

1104
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,959
Speaker 1: term answer. Yeah, I don't know how Freddy. I haven't

1105
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,240
Speaker 1: talked to one person in the NFL that thought Freddie

1106
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,799
Speaker 1: wearing that shirt and then losing the Duck Hodges did

1107
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 1: not cost him his job. Like it's it's over now,

1108
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,279
Speaker 1: I'm not John Dorsey one of the most overhyped GM's going.

1109
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: So I just is Jimmy hasn't gonna fire everybody? Is

1110
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 1: it all Freddy Kitchen's fault? Like John Dorsey traded his

1111
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:56,200
Speaker 1: best offensive line for Odell Beckham and Baker Mayfield can't

1112
00:55:56,200 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: get Odell beck on the ball, So you wonder why

1113
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham more likely is gonna ask for a trade

1114
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: out You can't get in the football, the best wide

1115
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: receiver Jarvis Slandry, the best offensive weapons and running backs. Yeah,

1116
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: but I think Ron Rivera would be a would be

1117
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 1: such a massive upgrade there, It's not even funny. Ron

1118
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: Rivera is a legitimate NFL head coach. Freddy Kitchens is

1119
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 1: not even a coordinator. Question. It seems like Ramisky is

1120
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 1: receiving a lot of heat from the national media, taking

1121
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: most of the blames for the bears poor season. But

1122
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: why isn't Naggie receiving more criticism? I get Tramisky is awful,

1123
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,439
Speaker 1: but there's time to watch the Bears and defense looks

1124
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,840
Speaker 1: like it's given up and Naggie is defeated. Just curious

1125
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: about your thoughts on Naggy. Now moving forward, Well, you know,

1126
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: I think Detroit kman say they've won five and seven games.

1127
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: This this question was before tonight's game. You know, if

1128
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:43,719
Speaker 1: they go eight and eight or nine and seven, I

1129
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 1: think they hold their head high and think they had

1130
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: a pretty good season. With Ron Rivera being fired today,

1131
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: how do you think he would fare as the Cowboys

1132
00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 1: head coach. I think it's a match made in heaven.

1133
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 1: I actually think that's a really good fit. I know

1134
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: Jane Slater, who also does the His and Hers pod

1135
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: cast for the Cowboys on for Colin, was tweeting out

1136
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,680
Speaker 1: that they've talked to urban Meyer, that they're gonna go

1137
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: after Lincoln Riley, that the offensive coordinator Clemson is going

1138
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: to be a guy. So one thing is pretty consistent there.

1139
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 1: They probably want an offensive coach. I mean they have

1140
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, they have this offense. I think Jason's and obviously,

1141
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean Jason's on major trouble. It's over like it's

1142
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,959
Speaker 1: over for Jason Garrett. Also, who do you think would

1143
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: be a good replacement for Ron Rivera. My sleeper would

1144
00:57:26,800 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: be Dabbo Sweeney. You know it just he's from he

1145
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: lives in that area, coaches at Clemson. I think that

1146
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: would be a big splashy higher. I don't know if

1147
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,840
Speaker 1: it worked, but he would know all the talent coming out.

1148
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: I would take a swing there. He clearly is a

1149
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: big like he's kind of like Pete Carroll in the South.

1150
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: He's kind of like Pete Carroll the South. Now, his

1151
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: one negative would be I don't think he's ever coached

1152
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:54,000
Speaker 1: in the NFL, But I don't see why he wouldn't

1153
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: have success I mean he hasn't. He's kicked. Asked at Clemson,

1154
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,280
Speaker 1: I mean kicked. He's turned them into Alabama of the

1155
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: a SEC. Now the SEC is worse than the SEC,

1156
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: but it's not. I mean Alabama didn't planning one this

1157
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: year except Auburn an l s U, so I would go.

1158
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 1: I think Dabbo Sweeney would be my sleeper. If if

1159
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: I was David Tepper, I would one million percent get

1160
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: a sleeper interview or sleeper sit down with Dabbo Sweeney.

1161
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,480
Speaker 1: What would you say about Kyle bringing Rivera as an

1162
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: offensive assistant. Kyle's pretty much has the entire offense, but

1163
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: I do think he would help add a guy who

1164
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: has been the helm of McCaffrey getting a thousand. Yeah,

1165
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: but Rivera is a defensive coach, so he's now bringing

1166
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: as an offensive assistant. I think the reason that McCaffrey

1167
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 1: did so well one as McCaffrey was the eighth pick

1168
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: in the draft. I mean, he's a superstar. In the North,

1169
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: Turner was the offensive coordinator. Rivera is a defensive guy.

1170
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:54,600
Speaker 1: Rivera as a leader, that's kind of what he is.

1171
00:58:54,680 --> 00:58:57,320
Speaker 1: That Kyle's not bringing him in. I was wondering what

1172
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: you think of the giant situation. Do you see potential

1173
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: in Daniel owns? How's the future looking there. I'm not

1174
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 1: a big Daniel Jones guy. That game against Tampa, his

1175
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: first start, was really impressive. Since then, he has seven

1176
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: million fumbles and they get their ass kicked every week.

1177
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,160
Speaker 1: I think Daniel Jones was one of the biggest reaches

1178
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: in draft history. That's just it's just a bad pick.

1179
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 1: There's just no way around it. I've always been a

1180
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: Niner lifer. In a followed sediment, surrounded Jed York fairly

1181
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: closely over the last few years. It seems like Jed

1182
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,960
Speaker 1: has taken a much more hands off approach since hiring

1183
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 1: Shanahan and Lynch, and the climate around the franchise seems

1184
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: to be much healthier. What has he done to improve

1185
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: the situation there? I mean, I think it's no different

1186
00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,280
Speaker 1: than Harbaugh. I think he just hired the right guy

1187
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,439
Speaker 1: and he just stays away. The one thing about Jet,

1188
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: he's actually a good owner. As long as you're doing well,

1189
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 1: he just stays out of it. He does not give

1190
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 1: a ship. He doesn't tell you to draft, he doesn't

1191
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,919
Speaker 1: tell you what to do. He doesn't tell you to hire.

1192
00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:51,120
Speaker 1: He's actually a pretty good boss. He pays a lot

1193
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: of money, you know. Now it's just when they start

1194
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: losing and he kind of inject some of his own opinions,

1195
00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: which he has not done. I give him credit. I

1196
01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 1: think my boss for the Athletic Tim calcam he wrote

1197
01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 1: a long piece like jets just stayed hams off. He's

1198
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:09,880
Speaker 1: the opposite of Jerry Jones, as he should be, and

1199
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: he hired Kyle Shanahan might be the best hire he's had.

1200
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:18,720
Speaker 1: I mean, clearly since Harball. I was curious as to

1201
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,920
Speaker 1: the path in college you took to become a scout

1202
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,160
Speaker 1: and eventually an analyst. I would say, I've been doing

1203
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,440
Speaker 1: it my whole life. I mean, I just I've been

1204
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: watching sports, I mean religiously. It's the only thing I've

1205
01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 1: ever done and never knew a lot about. So I

1206
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: just knew I had to work in it, and it

1207
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,680
Speaker 1: just in college. I started working for the athletic department.

1208
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: I wrote an article for the Mustang Daily, and then

1209
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: I got involved with the football program at cal Polly,

1210
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:45,920
Speaker 1: and then I got a job at President State and

1211
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: I got in the NFL, and I learned a lot

1212
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 1: about football. I mean I was a huge football fan

1213
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: before that, but then I learned, like really learned about

1214
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 1: football and got the opportunity to become friends with a

1215
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: lot of these people in the league. And you know,

1216
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:02,960
Speaker 1: you just I'm pretty opinionated, crazy s ob so you

1217
01:01:03,000 --> 01:01:04,600
Speaker 1: just kind of combined the two things and it's kind

1218
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: of worked out. You know, there's people like, is there

1219
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 1: a is there a major? I was an aggon business

1220
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,600
Speaker 1: major account Polly. You know, I've just you know what

1221
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: I majored in watching sports. You know, that's what I

1222
01:01:16,520 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: thought about. What have you thought about most of your life?

1223
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:22,720
Speaker 1: Chicks and sports and food? Those are those are the

1224
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: three things that I think about a lot still to

1225
01:01:24,760 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: this day, years old. So not much has changed, I

1226
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: would imagine, you know, when I'm sixty five, probably the same.

1227
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: You know, you kind of just are who you are.

1228
01:01:32,440 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 1: It's just it's it's a life. You know, This isn't

1229
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: this isn't like a passion project. This is this is

1230
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: what I do. And so you gotta just put all

1231
01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,480
Speaker 1: my chips in the middle of the table. So if

1232
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 1: you want to get into it, you just kind of

1233
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 1: gotta be all in. Appreciate everyone listening, enjoy the weekend. Uh,

1234
01:01:49,080 --> 01:01:51,840
Speaker 1: and enjoy the football some you know, some college games.

1235
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: Who knows, maybe we get a crazy upset, Probably not.

1236
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: And enjoyed the games on Sunday. I'll talk to you

1237
01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 1: next Monday. PO