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Speaker 1: Bagging everybody. I'm Dan Horde and thanks for downloading the

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Speaker 1: Bengals Booth Podcast. The We did It Big, Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: did it. We did it big. Addition, as the Bengals

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Speaker 1: go with a big man with their first pick in

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Speaker 2: Draft, we're the eighteenth pick in the twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: NFL drafts, the Cincinnati Bengals select Amrius Mimes Teco, Georgia.

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Speaker 1: That is one large bulldog making his way to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: And so you see the size up there, six seven,

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Speaker 3: three hundred and forty pounds.

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Speaker 4: He is massive.

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Speaker 1: Coming up. You'll hear from Zach Taylor and offensive coordinator

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Speaker 1: Dan Pitcher, and you'll also hear what Amrius Mims had

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Speaker 1: to say after being selected by Cincinnati. Then I'll discuss

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Speaker 1: the pick with Dave Lapham and look ahead to what

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Speaker 1: we think the Bengals are likely to do on Day two.

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Speaker 1: a quick reminder that you can have the latest edition

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Speaker 1: greatest thing since Bill Tobin, The father of Bengals Director

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Speaker 1: of player Personnel Duke Tobin, passed away last week at

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Speaker 1: the age of eighty three. Duke followed in his father's footsteps,

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Speaker 1: as Bill Tobin was one of the great scouts in

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Speaker 1: role he played in building the nineteen eighty five Super

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Speaker 1: of famers, including Walter Say and Mike Singletary. Bill joined

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Speaker 1: Duke on the Bengals staff in two thousand and three

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Speaker 1: and has been a trusted voice in the organization ever since.

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Speaker 1: On a personal note, one of the many great things

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Speaker 1: about my job has been sitting in the team cafeteria

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Speaker 1: listening to Bill Tobin and Dave Lapham swap stories about

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Speaker 1: their lives in football, the Bengals and the NFL. More

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Speaker 1: in the loss of a great man in Bill Tobin.

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to Round one of the draft. With

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Speaker 1: six quarterbacks being selected in the top twelve picks, the

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Speaker 1: Bengals had an abundance of enticing choices. With the eighteenth

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Speaker 1: overall pick, the top cornerbacks were still on the board.

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Speaker 1: Defensive tackle Johnny Newton was still there, but the Bengals

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Speaker 1: selection likely came down to two offensive linemen, Troy f

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Speaker 1: Utanu of Washington and Amarus Mims of Georgia. They chose

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Speaker 1: the one with the highest ceiling. Mims. He's four inches

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Speaker 1: tall and about twenty pounds heavier than Fatanu, who many

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Speaker 1: draft gurus project as a guard in the NFL. Mims

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Speaker 1: is also two years younger. The knock on a Marius

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Speaker 1: is his lack of experience. He had nankel injury this

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Speaker 1: the Bulldogs. Here's offensive coordinator Dan Pitcher.

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Speaker 5: I think we're all of the opinion that the only

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Speaker 5: probably because of the fact that he only has eight

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Speaker 5: starts and had he gotten through a played this whole

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Speaker 5: season the way he played in the tape that we saw,

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Speaker 5: there's a very low chance that we're even having an

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Speaker 1: Mims is a perfect fit on the Bengals offensive line

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Speaker 1: literally and figuratively. He's nearly six ' eight and weighs

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Speaker 1: three hundred and forty pounds, meaning he's roughly the same

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Speaker 1: Here's Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's those guys that have similar measurables and

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Speaker 6: what We didn't set out to do this, but the

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Speaker 1: But Mims is remarkably athletic for his size and didn't

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Speaker 1: allow his single sack at Georgia. Here's Pitcher.

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Speaker 5: He's three forty, but he doesn't look like he's three forty.

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Speaker 5: So he moves a lot better than what you'd expect

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Speaker 5: It's all the things that you want to see out

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Speaker 1: Since Trent Brown signed a one year contract to start

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Speaker 1: right away. He told Cincinnati reporters that he's looking forward

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Speaker 4: One hundred percent. I can get behind those guys and

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Speaker 1: MEM's watched the draft in Atlanta with his family and

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Speaker 4: All my family, my past teammates, passed coaches. But I said,

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Speaker 4: close the members and friends with here today. And like

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Speaker 4: I said, that, media actually just mad all into his

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Speaker 4: cry and difficult life as a kid. I dream to

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Speaker 4: be in a situation honestly, you know, and and don't

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Speaker 4: say there's a lot of a lot of picks on

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Speaker 1: for analysis of round one and a look ahead to

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Speaker 1: Friday second and third rounds with Dave Lapham Lap You

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Speaker 1: were hoping for JC Latham and Talsa Fuaga. Unfortunately they

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Speaker 1: were taken before the Bengals were on the clock at

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Speaker 1: number eighteen. But I don't get the sense from you

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Speaker 1: six seven, three hundred and forty pounds thirty six and

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, and when we did our podcast, he was the

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Speaker 3: I wonder what Mike Brown was thinking. I mean, he

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Speaker 3: was involved in both of those selections. I wonder if

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Speaker 3: Mike Brown talked about, you know, brought up Anthony and

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Speaker 1: This is an upside pick. He's not needed right away.

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Speaker 3: Draft pick exactly. I mean, the floor is the tape,

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Speaker 3: The thing that's going to be great though with him

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Speaker 3: I mean they're both Super Bowl champions. So I think

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Speaker 3: He's working with offensive linemen that you know for project

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Speaker 1: We mentioned the size six seven, three forty. The thing

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Speaker 3: Genetic freakazoid, I mean, genetic marvel he is. He's put together.

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Speaker 3: for an offensive tackle, Marius Mims would come spitting out

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Speaker 1: A three hundred and forty pound block of clay. That

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Speaker 3: Not only younger, but nowhere and tear So again, you

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Speaker 3: And hopefully that's the situation with Mims.

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Speaker 3: I think because, you know, looking at the body and

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Speaker 1: Six quarterbacks went in the first twelve picks. As a result,

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Speaker 1: Do you think that they were briefly reconsidering whether they

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it sounded like they were high five,

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Speaker 1: All right, let's look ahead to day two. The Bengals

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I mean, if Newton

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Speaker 3: I mean, if there are edge rushers. Edge rushers hadn't

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Speaker 3: do like this Darius Robinson from Georgia. I think he

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Speaker 3: And they had many other people between you know, those

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's first first round pick at the Bengals head

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Speaker 3: And it's crazy he was drafted to be a candidate

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Speaker 1: More to come tomorrow night, after Day two of the draft,

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Speaker 1: you'll hear from the selections Bengals coaches and once again

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