WEBVTT - House of the Dragon S3E03

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<v Speaker 1>Warning. Today's episode contained supposed for a House of the

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon season three episode three be warned. Hello, my name

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<v Speaker 1>is Jason Concepcion and I'm Rosie Night and welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to ext reviews of the podcast where we dive deep

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<v Speaker 1>into your favorite shows, movies, comixopop culture coming from my Heart,

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<v Speaker 1>where we're bringing you three episodes a week.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's another banger episode coming from Western ros with

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<v Speaker 2>House of the Dragon episode three oh three.

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<v Speaker 3>You want to know how Rniar's first day is going

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<v Speaker 3>as Queen? Not very Well, it's tough.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you know it was a hard job? Jason, I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like she should have been more prepared. But we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about that. We're gonna recap. We're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 2>our feelings about this incredible episode and where it sets

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<v Speaker 2>us up before episode four.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's jump into it. We open on Ormond High Towers

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<v Speaker 1>camp in the reach his army marching towards King's landing.

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<v Speaker 1>Damon has landed there with some dragon Seed dragon Rider

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<v Speaker 1>back up and he has come to accept the surrender

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<v Speaker 1>of Ormond High Tower. He brings some very important news. One,

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<v Speaker 1>King Agan is dead, He's gone, Rania has ascended and

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<v Speaker 1>Aim don't worry about it. He promises Ormond that his

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<v Speaker 1>people will be spared, his life will be spared. Just

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<v Speaker 1>swear to the queen, turn around and walk back. And

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<v Speaker 1>also Otto is dead. I killed out him. And Ormand

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<v Speaker 1>is like, well, let's talk about, like what if I

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<v Speaker 1>want to fight you a little bit, And Damon is like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to cook you up and then I'm gonna make.

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<v Speaker 2>Old time.

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<v Speaker 1>So Orman's like, well, I guess I gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So he kneels and then Damon does the thing where

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<v Speaker 1>he's like that, he does the colombo.

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<v Speaker 3>He is literally like he does the horna thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, one more.

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<v Speaker 3>Thing, just one more thing, uh actually actually.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the last thing is starre On targarian. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta give him up. I need him, I need him hostage.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll send some guys to pick up the dragon later.

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<v Speaker 1>So they bring out a very very targarian looking young man.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, this guy looks like link from a legend

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<v Speaker 1>of his own right.

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<v Speaker 3>He is so blonde. He's a perfect targarian.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of the better targarian hairstyles we have seen.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're, of course, like Damon, You're just.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, I got it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my nephew, and it well Matt nephew, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>he says. I'm like, babe, you guys need to be

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<v Speaker 2>carrying around some.

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<v Speaker 3>Little like portraits.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, you know of the last time it was seen

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<v Speaker 2>like a little locket, like hey, can I you know

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a fox.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh you can't tea to him and be like have

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<v Speaker 3>you seen this kid? But maybe a little something the.

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<v Speaker 1>Tip back in King's Landing, Rania is just dealing with

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<v Speaker 1>the like open fire hydrant of things that she has

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with. They're coming in her at a million

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<v Speaker 1>miles an hour. Meanwhile, she's you know, reminiscing about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>how strange it is to be like in her father's

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<v Speaker 1>chambers but now she's queen. Damon comes and is like

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<v Speaker 1>ormon surrendered. We have Darren hostage, and Raniera, probably inspired

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<v Speaker 1>by by just being around her dad's stuff, is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I'm going to rule the way he

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<v Speaker 1>would have wanted. So let's start.

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<v Speaker 3>And Damon's like rolling his eyes, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's start here. We Uh, it's time for the coronation,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's gonna be an important thing to seal my

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate legitimacy. And you know to make my make my

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<v Speaker 1>reign as authentic as possible, We're gonna need to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>She meets with Darren, She's like, what's going on with

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the the Usurpers? Do you know anything about them?

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<v Speaker 1>What was Ormond's battle plans? Do you know where the

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<v Speaker 1>former King Eggon is? Do you know where Amon is? Anything?

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<v Speaker 1>Kid refuses to say anything, So she's like, well, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to say something to me at some

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<v Speaker 1>point and go sit take him away. And Damon is like,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna have to kill that kid at some point.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, babe, you got to chop his head off,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you can't just be doing this. But it is

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<v Speaker 2>also like, I just I think this is a great

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<v Speaker 2>moment where you really see Raniera kind of not able

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<v Speaker 2>to immediately step into that leadership that she has been

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<v Speaker 2>expecting too, because.

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<v Speaker 3>She is just she's just really no. She wants to

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<v Speaker 3>be like her dad.

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<v Speaker 2>But she's also just like so thrown by this kid

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<v Speaker 2>refusing to talk to her, and she wants to be

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<v Speaker 2>calm and just so she doesn't, you know, immediately strike

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<v Speaker 2>him or something. But at the same time, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like should be a great win for her to have

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<v Speaker 2>him there when it comes to understanding who was part

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<v Speaker 2>of the conspiracy. So it's I just find it to

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<v Speaker 2>be very interesting. I love soft dren Era, so I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of love the way she approached this. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>funny to have Damon there as her kind of evil

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<v Speaker 2>Jiminy Cricket reminding her of what she actually needs to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's quite clear that she listen. She doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>She's she's trying to figure out how to rule. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things have happened in a very short amount

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and she's a lot of things coming at her.

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<v Speaker 1>As we said, she takes her free.

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<v Speaker 2>In months, right, Jason, only months since Eggon was crowned king.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's correct, And it's been you know, like Jace's

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<v Speaker 1>body is still warm. So and she so she takes

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<v Speaker 1>a meeting with her small counsel or while grandmaster or

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<v Speaker 1>a while, and list brings some troubling news. There's no money.

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<v Speaker 1>Treasury's empty, it's been stolen where you go. There's probably

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<v Speaker 1>there's probably enough gold just like around to run the

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<v Speaker 1>government for like a couple of weeks, but certainly a

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<v Speaker 1>coronation is out of the picture. Ye white Worm Missaria

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<v Speaker 1>thinks that, you know, or While is probably telling the

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<v Speaker 1>truth he doesn't know where the cash is. Orwhile is like, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, why would they tell me where they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to take the cash. But if anybody knows where they

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<v Speaker 1>took the cash, is probably Thailand Lanister, the late Lord

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<v Speaker 1>Tayland Lanister, and maybe probably told right. And he might

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<v Speaker 1>have told Lord Jasper wild Akai Ironrod, the Master of

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<v Speaker 1>Laws who is now dead because Damon killed him whoops.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was like, We're we'll fucking doing it anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll like, we're doing the coronation anyway. Worm is like,

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<v Speaker 1>is that gonna be a good look? People are starving.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, they have no heating fuel, they've they

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<v Speaker 1>have no food, and you're gonna be spending lavishly. Corlis

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<v Speaker 1>is like, well, if we're gonna spend on anything, we

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<v Speaker 1>should spend on the fact that the triarchy are still

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<v Speaker 1>around sacking the coastline. We have to deal with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Misari is like, well, the granaries are empty and the

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<v Speaker 1>small folk, and Damon's like, fuck the small folk. As

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, Damon is very stridently fucked the small folk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I do think it's a really interesting exploration

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<v Speaker 2>of that this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I love this episode.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean every episode consistently being this good, us being

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<v Speaker 2>three in and all of them being bangers. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>this is so different from the first two episodes. There

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<v Speaker 2>is so much interesting stuff about class and agenda here,

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<v Speaker 2>and we really start to see what Masaria's agenda is,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is very much like many of the other

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<v Speaker 2>small folk that we have seen rise us through the

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<v Speaker 2>ranks of King's landing is to help the other small folk, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and obviously she may have machinations on that, she also

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<v Speaker 2>understands how good it will look. We know what that

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<v Speaker 2>was like for you know, Marjorie and kind of her

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<v Speaker 2>reign and being the queen.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the people. You know, I'm from England.

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<v Speaker 2>People love we all love Princess Diana there, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we get it so like. But then to see Damon,

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<v Speaker 2>who essentially will as we'll talk about later, lays out

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<v Speaker 2>how he sees the Targarians and how he sees Ranera,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is like the polar opposite to what Misia

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<v Speaker 2>is thinking. There's so much fun to be had, and

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<v Speaker 2>I love how much Damon is just relishing in this

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<v Speaker 2>true belief where he has become the man who sees

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<v Speaker 2>him as ants essentially right, that's just irrelevant to him.

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<v Speaker 1>To be fair to Damon and Cordless, it is not

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<v Speaker 1>an easy question. There is a balance to be struck

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<v Speaker 1>here because to Damon's point, like, there are enemies in

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<v Speaker 1>there close by, and we've got to really try and

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<v Speaker 1>lock down this kingdom before we lose it. And while

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<v Speaker 1>you know, listen, I think everybody should be fed, I

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<v Speaker 1>also feel like we've got to find we've got to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to balance that because if we feed

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<v Speaker 1>them and then lose the capital, or feed them and

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<v Speaker 1>then don't have an army to send at these raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>so it is it is legitimately it's a big question.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well, I also I like that you bring that

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<v Speaker 2>up because I think a big thing that works really

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<v Speaker 2>well this episode is you see how badly run kings

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<v Speaker 2>Landing has been, and how now there is somebody who

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<v Speaker 2>is willingly saying I will step up and lead. Every

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<v Speaker 2>single person has a request, a want, and a need,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is overwhelming. Ranera is having to make choices

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<v Speaker 2>at a ridiculously fast speed, and it is not given

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<v Speaker 2>the time that it needs to think about the long

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<v Speaker 2>term ramifications of anything, Like, there are moves that she

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<v Speaker 2>makes in this episode that made me scream with joy,

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<v Speaker 2>and immediately after moves that made me think you are fucked,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you just fucked your entire career.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, it's so fun to see that because I

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<v Speaker 3>think it.

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<v Speaker 2>Is, you know, not I'm it's realistic, the grind of

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<v Speaker 2>being a royal. No, but in the world of Game

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<v Speaker 2>of Thrones, I love to see this kind of drudgery. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>we've never really seen the royals going through the drudgery like.

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<v Speaker 1>She there's real trade off leading.

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<v Speaker 2>Up to this, right, and now all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 2>she has to deal with the fact that every single

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<v Speaker 2>person needs something from her, and it's everyone needs something

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<v Speaker 2>different and everybody wants something different, even the people she loves,

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<v Speaker 2>let alone the millions of people that she's now in

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<v Speaker 2>charge of. It's so well done. It is really like,

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<v Speaker 2>it feels to me a little unlike any other episodes

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<v Speaker 2>of Game of Thrones that we've had, because it's very

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<v Speaker 2>in Rania's head and in her POV like whenever we're

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<v Speaker 2>with her, we're kind of experiencing the day as she does,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is a really cool vantage point because her

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<v Speaker 2>day fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Suck, so Rania fires off some executive orders. She's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>send ravens out to all the great houses, tell them

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<v Speaker 1>we need money. I'm not bringing my dragon Stone Small

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<v Speaker 1>Council here because they betrayed me, they let me down,

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<v Speaker 1>they questioned me every turn. I'm leaving them there or

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<v Speaker 1>while updates the Small Council on Aimand he burned Harron Hall,

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<v Speaker 1>including Damon's token force that he left there and he

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<v Speaker 1>has disappeared. Renia wants to know about sheepstealer. Where is sheepstealer?

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<v Speaker 3>Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Who is this sheep stealer rider? She offers a bounty

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<v Speaker 1>on the rider's head on layaway because there's no ways

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<v Speaker 1>she has no money, and babe, and the same for

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<v Speaker 1>whoever kills Aimand And we also see that.

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<v Speaker 3>They she offers them Haroen hole.

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<v Speaker 2>She offers them Haaren if you kill Aimed one, you

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<v Speaker 2>will get haron Hole because I don't need it because

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<v Speaker 2>all the river lands online, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And also the castle is completely infested with because of

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<v Speaker 1>the death and torture of the rat catchers in the

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<v Speaker 1>wake of the murder of the children, the murder of.

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<v Speaker 2>The Also I love that so much too, because it's

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<v Speaker 2>a one, it pays off in a really great way

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't see coming.

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<v Speaker 3>But two, there.

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<v Speaker 2>Is this great kind of feeling that it inspires where

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<v Speaker 2>every you know, those days where you're already really pissed

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<v Speaker 2>off and everything's really stressful, and then like your sleeve

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<v Speaker 2>catches on the doorknob and you drop your keys or something,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're like, I'm at my fucking limit.

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<v Speaker 3>Every single time. Raniera is at her limit.

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<v Speaker 2>This episode, she sees a fucking rat, Like something really

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<v Speaker 2>bad is happening, and she is stressing out and she

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<v Speaker 2>hears a fucking rat and she looks and she.

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<v Speaker 3>Sees these motherfuckers running around.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's this again, this kind of reminder of the

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<v Speaker 2>ruin that she has been left with that she now

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<v Speaker 2>has to build from, but it will also inspire this

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<v Speaker 2>fantastic scene later that I just adored.

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<v Speaker 1>Rania is using Captain Largent, Commander Largent of the City

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<v Speaker 1>Watch as her main queen's guard at the moment, but

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<v Speaker 1>of course he doesn't want the job, and he's got

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<v Speaker 1>a much more important job dealing with the City Watch

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<v Speaker 1>and all the things that have to be patrolled within

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<v Speaker 1>the city and security. She sees she tells him that

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<v Speaker 1>Damon will see to finding new Queen's guard candidates. And meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>again as noted, people are coming out of the woodwork

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to her about the candles, about the washing,

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<v Speaker 1>about the drapes and so chamber, everything is like got

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<v Speaker 1>to go through her. Ranera goes to see Alison and

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<v Speaker 1>Helena and is like, do you guys know where the

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<v Speaker 1>money is? Alison has no idea where the money is.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, they would not tell me anything. Raniera is

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<v Speaker 1>like kind of barely keeping it together with the stress.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, wants to know where Vega is, sheep stealer

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<v Speaker 1>and the like. Alison basically tells her, listen, you're the Queen.

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<v Speaker 1>I did my job. I got you in here. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>Chill out. And by the way, Eggon, nobody knows what

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<v Speaker 1>he looks like now because he's like horrendously burned. He

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<v Speaker 1>probably won't live, so just to clear him dead anyway

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<v Speaker 1>and move on. And Alison is being honestly pretty cool

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<v Speaker 1>about this all considered.

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<v Speaker 2>She is I'm not gonna lie as well. Like for

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<v Speaker 2>me the Allison Raniera lover, I adore this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>moment because we do get to see that this is

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<v Speaker 2>where Raniera chooses to be vulnerable is with Allison, because

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<v Speaker 2>there's this great moment where she sort of grips the

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<v Speaker 2>table and almost has a panic attack, and that is

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<v Speaker 2>when Allison says, you see in her mind something shifts

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<v Speaker 2>and she thinks, fuck, I can ask for her, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>to say hegun's dead like shit, she needs help. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of this like incredible unexpected allyship of like

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<v Speaker 2>two people trying to help each other while trying to survive.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just it's what this show does so well.

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<v Speaker 2>And to have Helena there as this kind of little,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, pure innocent in it.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, it's so good, such a great scene.

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<v Speaker 1>Rania says, listen, when everything's calm and I've found amend

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<v Speaker 1>and he's dead, you and Helena Allison can go, But

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<v Speaker 1>until then, we're gonna keep you here. You're gonna live

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<v Speaker 1>in the style that you're accustomed to, like a queen

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. Like I know, yeah, I know, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>happy about it, but that's the way it's got to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Allison points out that how fucked up it is that

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<v Speaker 1>now she's got a hope for the death of her

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<v Speaker 1>son Aimond and free, and Renier is like, yeah, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>Raniera tells Captain Largent, Commander large and excuse me to

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<v Speaker 1>announce that Eggon is dead. Just just put that put

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<v Speaker 1>that news bullet me out there, and that's right. And furthermore,

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<v Speaker 1>bring my youngest son Jeoffrey back from the veil, because

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<v Speaker 1>that's the new air. Meanwhile, Missaria is like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a very nice castle. This is this nice. Raniera is

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<v Speaker 1>getting paranoid. The white worm is kind of feeding it, suggesting,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, killing darn but of course Ranera doesn't want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Raniera is as a great example of how much stress

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<v Speaker 1>she's under. She's just hallucinates Jace walking the walls, which

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<v Speaker 1>is very very bad. There's also this like they use

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<v Speaker 1>this sound design that like kind of low, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like orchestral stab that's like boom every time something happens,

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<v Speaker 1>that like kind of triggers her stress, and it's I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's very effective. Raniera tells the white worm question

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<v Speaker 1>the staff, find out which of the people here in

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<v Speaker 1>the castle are working against me, plotting against me, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll deal with them later. The High Septon comes to

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<v Speaker 1>see the Queen and he says, listen, we can't we

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<v Speaker 1>can't do a coronation. Why well, let's see, I annointed

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<v Speaker 1>Eggun and she's like, well he's dead, and so he says, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well there there's a very specific procedure that we go

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<v Speaker 1>through this as everybody watches Game of Thrones nose and

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<v Speaker 1>has seen, Yeah, the Silence Sisters prepare the body, and

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<v Speaker 1>that lets us know that officially that person is dead

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<v Speaker 1>and we don't have a body. The sisters didn't prepare

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<v Speaker 1>it anyway, So you're just I'm just taking your word

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<v Speaker 1>for it, and not that I'm saying you're a liar,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like, it's kind of hard for me to

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<v Speaker 1>then to anoint you because I just anointed him, and

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<v Speaker 1>Ranhiera is very frustrated, and it's clear that she's already

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about like how do I kill this guy later?

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<v Speaker 2>Honestly, in my opinion correct I also want to say, Rania, Babe,

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<v Speaker 2>you mistakenly fucked up by not thinking it through with

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<v Speaker 2>the plan because she specifically told people and told Logent

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<v Speaker 2>to tell them that they'd found Eggon in the castle.

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<v Speaker 2>So then that makes this really sucks. Babe, two of

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<v Speaker 2>your kids go eaten by dragons. Just tell them, get

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<v Speaker 2>them again, eat then by a dragon, like give them

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<v Speaker 2>a gain them a butt up, body, give them.

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<v Speaker 3>This is not planning, baby.

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<v Speaker 2>And what I think is really interesting here that I

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<v Speaker 2>really this was immediately something I wrote down of like

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta ask Jason about the lore of this. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>so we know we've seen a lot of like drama

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<v Speaker 2>between the faith in the Crown and the Septin and

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<v Speaker 2>the Crown, but we get this great moment here with

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<v Speaker 2>the High Septum where he kind of talks about how

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<v Speaker 2>dragons are this profane magic they were created by like

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<v Speaker 2>disgusting evil, lust and greed because.

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<v Speaker 3>Rania is like, bitch, I got dragons, Like, do fuck

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<v Speaker 3>with me?

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to know if that is like a

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<v Speaker 2>big canon part of the book, like is this is

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<v Speaker 2>like do does do all faith leaders hate dragons? Is

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<v Speaker 2>this a regular issue or is this something they're expanding

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<v Speaker 2>on here?

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<v Speaker 1>The Turgerians are aliens in this land, and while there

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<v Speaker 1>are those feeling they're seen as exceptional because of the dragons,

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<v Speaker 1>and none of the Septans who are quoted or any

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<v Speaker 1>of the religious lay people who who speak about these

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<v Speaker 1>periods and the novellas really kind of talk specifically from

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<v Speaker 1>a like forty thousand foot view about the Targarians. They'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about like specific family members or specific people being

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<v Speaker 1>evil or being paranoid or whatever. They don't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the entire group being bad per se, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>that would be politically very dangerous thing to do. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's but so this show is extrapolating and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>fleshing out what those feelings would be like on a

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<v Speaker 1>more personal ground level. Yeah, but so and and by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, A Night of the Seven Kingdoms also fleshed

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<v Speaker 1>out these feelings as well, where it's like it's clear

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<v Speaker 1>that everybody was like, you know, we don't love the Targarians,

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<v Speaker 1>but what are you going to do? They did show

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<v Speaker 1>up with dragons, So.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of, yeah, this is in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess do you think I guess The bigger question

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<v Speaker 2>I have is like, do you think this is leading

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<v Speaker 2>to a bigger conflict between this specific scept I do?

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<v Speaker 3>Right? It feels because it does feel is going to

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<v Speaker 3>kill him.

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<v Speaker 2>He doesn't feel like they kinda it doesn't feel like

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<v Speaker 2>this is just gonna He's gonna die and that's the

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<v Speaker 2>end of it.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, setting something up.

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<v Speaker 1>He says to her, don't make an enemy of the faith.

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<v Speaker 1>The you know, because left On said is that in

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<v Speaker 1>this time of hardship, the people cling to the faith,

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<v Speaker 1>and if you make an enemy of the faith, you'll

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<v Speaker 1>make an enemy of the people. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>is a message that Raniera should listen to. And we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see if she does. I don't I at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously they're they're squared up for a conflict. Corliss has

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<v Speaker 1>dinner with the queen and the boys, Adam and Allen.

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<v Speaker 1>That boy, he's like, listen, you may have guessed, but

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<v Speaker 1>these are my illegitimate sons. I had them with this

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<v Speaker 1>this lady who is hanging around Driftmark and ladies. Yeah,

0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:04.080
<v Speaker 1>ship is a shipwright lady. And I was listen. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a little embarrassed of that, because you know, I

0:21:07.720 --> 0:21:10.600
<v Speaker 1>love my wife. But obviously my wife's not here and

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<v Speaker 1>she died.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with the way things are.

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<v Speaker 1>Going right now, I'm going to need airs. So I

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<v Speaker 1>would really appreciate it if we could legitimize Alan here

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<v Speaker 1>and uh so I can name him my heir, and

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<v Speaker 1>could you do that that? You know, these they are

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<v Speaker 1>the last of the Valarians, you know anyway, and Raniera

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<v Speaker 1>kind of gives a bullshitty kind of hemming and hang, answer,

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:39.040
<v Speaker 1>it's clear she does not want to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she hypes up the kids and compliments them, but

0:21:42.560 --> 0:21:43.639
<v Speaker 2>she like won't commit.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, we love the kids, they're fucking great, but like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk. Maybe we'll table this later, eat.

0:21:49.240 --> 0:21:52.400
<v Speaker 3>This little chicken and shut up a little chicken leg.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we leave without a clear answer on that topic,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we certainly get the picture that Raniera

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't want to do that right now. Meanwhile, Raniera is

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<v Speaker 1>still seeing and hearing weird things. She goes through her

0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:06.520
<v Speaker 1>bedroom formerly her father's bedroom. She can't sleep there. She

0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:08.960
<v Speaker 1>goes to the next room and sleeps next to Damon.

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<v Speaker 1>She prepares for her first day of open court, and

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:14.520
<v Speaker 1>she's like trying to figure out, like, Okay, nobody's got

0:22:14.520 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>any food, but like, so how much jewelry should I wear? Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>like to open.

0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:25.000
<v Speaker 2>Ran which again trenchiant fantastic fucking writing that you think

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<v Speaker 2>is just her doing weird like kind of thinking out loud,

0:22:29.080 --> 0:22:32.120
<v Speaker 2>but like essentially sets up everything else for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of the episode. Like the fucking detail writing in this

0:22:35.000 --> 0:22:35.920
<v Speaker 2>stuff is so good.

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<v Speaker 1>So she then realizes she's having her period and not

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<v Speaker 1>to mention she's under tremendous stress. This is a very

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<v Speaker 1>interesting book change because in the books.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>In the books, from Septon Eustace's account, who is an

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<v Speaker 1>unreliable narrator who doesn't like Reniera, he says that she

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<v Speaker 1>cut herself on the throne and would freak cut herself

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<v Speaker 1>as she sat the throne over time during her reign

0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:09.800
<v Speaker 1>during this period in King's Landing. And is that propagandistic?

0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>Is he trying to delegitimize her rain? Unclear?

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<v Speaker 2>But so it's very interesting that just a reading of

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<v Speaker 2>like was it just how how would they reveal?

0:23:22.880 --> 0:23:24.960
<v Speaker 1>How would he know? Though? How would he know she

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<v Speaker 1>was on her period?

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder a because we see let her handmaids get

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<v Speaker 2>like rags. But also I did consider, you know, she

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.399
<v Speaker 2>realizes when she is standing in her dress, right, she

0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:37.400
<v Speaker 2>has this great moment where she just goes, fuck, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>bleeding and you've realized, like, her bad day is about

0:23:39.640 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 2>to get a lot worse. And I think the way

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.359
<v Speaker 2>they bring it to life via sound design and camera

0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.159
<v Speaker 2>use and shaky cam and stuff is so good. But

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<v Speaker 2>also what if you know she bled through her dress,

0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:52.560
<v Speaker 2>and people saw her bleed and they assumed that she

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<v Speaker 2>you know, cut.

0:23:53.680 --> 0:23:54.479
<v Speaker 3>Herself on there.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I think I love the unreliable narration of

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<v Speaker 2>it all, and how the you know, so it happens

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 2>regularly throughout her run.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are three three There are several options. The

0:24:05.560 --> 0:24:10.600
<v Speaker 1>first option is that this is a propagandistic retelling of

0:24:11.840 --> 0:24:17.399
<v Speaker 1>the historical we now see fact that Rania was having

0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:21.919
<v Speaker 1>her period when she first sat the throne to you know,

0:24:22.080 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>accept the public, to meet the public. Two excepting you sisters,

0:24:27.080 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>make making sit up, making it up, making completely making

0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:34.320
<v Speaker 1>that up in order to make Raniera seem like she

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<v Speaker 1>never had the judgment of the gods and was never

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<v Speaker 1>fit to rule. And then those are really our only

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<v Speaker 1>two options, right right, Like yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I would say, like the yeah, I think the other

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<v Speaker 2>option as well as like the it was about I

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<v Speaker 2>guess it was like an allegorical way of use this

0:24:51.920 --> 0:24:54.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about it, because honestly, like the idea of her

0:24:54.960 --> 0:24:57.480
<v Speaker 2>the day she sits the throne, God chooses to make

0:24:57.520 --> 0:25:01.280
<v Speaker 2>her bleed, you know, it's like essentially the throne cut.

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:05.240
<v Speaker 3>I wonder if there's like an interesting kind of angle.

0:25:05.240 --> 0:25:07.639
<v Speaker 1>I think the third the third option is that this

0:25:07.840 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 1>is simply a show change, and that in the book

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:15.480
<v Speaker 1>version of events, she was cutting herself on the blades

0:25:15.480 --> 0:25:18.240
<v Speaker 1>of the throne, and in this telling of the version,

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:20.560
<v Speaker 1>she was on her period.

0:25:20.560 --> 0:25:23.000
<v Speaker 2>I never cut hers because we're seeing different perspectives, right,

0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:25.240
<v Speaker 2>And I will say a lot of this episode, what

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:29.080
<v Speaker 2>I love about it is about how ranierer for better

0:25:29.240 --> 0:25:31.040
<v Speaker 2>or for worse. Right, we don't know yet, we don't

0:25:31.040 --> 0:25:32.720
<v Speaker 2>know how it's all going to play out, but she

0:25:32.840 --> 0:25:36.480
<v Speaker 2>turns to women every single time. In this episode, she

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 2>listens to Allison's advice. Alison tells her say my son's dead,

0:25:40.680 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 2>and she does it moments later, right, like then it's

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 2>the handmaid who knows she's on her period. It's a

0:25:45.720 --> 0:25:48.840
<v Speaker 2>handmaid who brings her the stuff for cramps. And then

0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it's Missia who will start to shape her first day

0:25:54.520 --> 0:25:56.800
<v Speaker 2>on the throne and the choices that she makes. So

0:25:56.840 --> 0:25:59.000
<v Speaker 2>it's really interesting to me that they also tied it

0:25:59.040 --> 0:26:01.160
<v Speaker 2>to the period. So, yeah, it's just just a really

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:04.320
<v Speaker 2>cool choice. And Emma, again they are just fucking smash.

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:04.520
<v Speaker 3>At the throw.

0:26:04.880 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so the petitioners come and it's just very complicated.

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:28.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, the weavers need sheep, but all the sheep

0:26:28.680 --> 0:26:31.680
<v Speaker 1>were fed to the dragons because of the war. There's

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:34.080
<v Speaker 1>no money to buy new sheep. Also, the butchers are

0:26:34.119 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>out of meat. What about hunting?

0:26:35.600 --> 0:26:37.600
<v Speaker 3>The kings would shave the sheep.

0:26:38.000 --> 0:26:41.800
<v Speaker 1>What about hunting in the kingswood. Maybe we could do that, like,

0:26:42.200 --> 0:26:44.199
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll talk about it, but all the hunters

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:48.520
<v Speaker 1>went off to war. One of Missaria's colleagues comes asking

0:26:48.600 --> 0:26:51.879
<v Speaker 1>for justice for the common folks, saying, you know, the

0:26:51.960 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 1>rich people, the nobles, they are hoarding all the resources,

0:26:56.800 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>and what do we do about it? Small counts meeting.

0:27:00.400 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>Damon does not like this kind of brewing class warfare angle.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:09.679
<v Speaker 1>Misaria obviously loves it, so they they bicker there. Damon

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:13.479
<v Speaker 1>says Bayla saw Sunfire dead and rotting in the field.

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:20.880
<v Speaker 1>After Eggon's drunk dragon ride and crash. Raniera says, send

0:27:20.880 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>Bayla out again with Adam tonight to do more scouting

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:31.720
<v Speaker 1>look for vagar. Corliss is like, I'm gonna I'm neutral

0:27:31.760 --> 0:27:35.600
<v Speaker 1>on the class warfare queen. Whatever, the queen says.

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:38.520
<v Speaker 3>Listen to me.

0:27:38.520 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, the warm asks, okay, what would your father do?

0:27:41.760 --> 0:27:44.440
<v Speaker 1>And I think quite accurately Rania says he would have

0:27:44.480 --> 0:27:48.159
<v Speaker 1>a banquet, he would have a dinner. Wolf needs a

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:50.439
<v Speaker 1>new needs a style, he needs a new nickname to

0:27:50.480 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 1>come with. They come up with Ulf the White. Hugh

0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:57.320
<v Speaker 1>is Hugh the Hammer, Adam is Adam of Hull, not Valarion.

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.320
<v Speaker 1>They kneel and Damon knights them all, so now they

0:28:01.320 --> 0:28:04.320
<v Speaker 1>are all sirs, and they swear fealty to the queen

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>until death. All saying until death is very funny because

0:28:07.880 --> 0:28:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you just get the feeling like probably it's not gonna happen.

0:28:10.840 --> 0:28:11.320
<v Speaker 3>It's happening.

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, a different way, maybe very unreliable.

0:28:16.680 --> 0:28:20.240
<v Speaker 2>He was like so so bad at this, Like when

0:28:20.280 --> 0:28:22.400
<v Speaker 2>he was like, I'm miss stout myself as a Tagarian

0:28:22.480 --> 0:28:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and they're like absolutely fucking not, Like you do not

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:27.520
<v Speaker 2>have the juice and you do not have the drip.

0:28:27.600 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 2>It's not happening. Style yourself as Off the White. You'll

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:32.440
<v Speaker 2>be fine.

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>He was like, what how much are you paid? And

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>Raniera is like, tbd on that. We're having money issues

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>right now. But if you want to go get your

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 1>wife from wherever she fled to, we will get you

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:50.200
<v Speaker 1>a house out there on the Street of Steel or

0:28:50.240 --> 0:28:52.160
<v Speaker 1>somewhere when will.

0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 3>I send Visenya's Hill Vicenya's Hill?

0:28:54.520 --> 0:28:56.360
<v Speaker 1>When will we get the house? You know, like the

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>we'll do, we'll we'll work on that needs to get back.

0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>She needs to get better at delegating. Alison comes to

0:29:02.680 --> 0:29:08.080
<v Speaker 1>see Raniera. She has a request. She asks that Auto's

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.840
<v Speaker 1>remains be sent to old Town. That's done. Then Raniera

0:29:11.040 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>is like, you were queen for a while and you

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:16.480
<v Speaker 1>were really kind of running things in the shadows, like

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 1>what's give me some advice, And basically, Alison says, listen,

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna have to change the the realities of power

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:28.840
<v Speaker 1>mean that you can't be the person that you think

0:29:29.040 --> 0:29:32.720
<v Speaker 1>that you have been or maintain your same kind of

0:29:32.760 --> 0:29:36.440
<v Speaker 1>relationship to your morals. You're gonna have to change. And

0:29:36.560 --> 0:29:39.480
<v Speaker 1>Ranera is like, nah, I'm built different. That's not gonna

0:29:39.480 --> 0:29:41.480
<v Speaker 1>happen to me. And Alison's like, okay.

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this shit is like so good.

0:29:45.240 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I love the switch here where Ranera was always the

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.200
<v Speaker 2>one kind of giving Alison the advice when they were kids,

0:29:51.280 --> 0:29:54.160
<v Speaker 2>and then it's now Alison and she's fucking real about

0:29:54.160 --> 0:29:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it too, like this isn't a lie. She's not trying

0:29:56.760 --> 0:29:58.920
<v Speaker 2>to excuse the bad shit she did. She's just telling

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.080
<v Speaker 2>Renera like you're gonna You're gonna do horrible shit, and

0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 2>Raniera just wants to be like her dad. Also, Jason,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I do have to ask you here, even as the

0:30:06.880 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 2>ultimate Allison apologist, I do feel like the request for

0:30:12.040 --> 0:30:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Otto's remains to be sent to old Town could be

0:30:15.000 --> 0:30:18.280
<v Speaker 2>weighted towards trying to get Ormond High Tower to be

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.080
<v Speaker 2>like more pissed off, right, Like, like the proof that

0:30:22.120 --> 0:30:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Otto is dead feels like it might not be the chill.

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>I just want my parents to rest together plan and

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.600
<v Speaker 2>I think, like I don't want Alison to be doing

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>anything that doesn't help my babe Branera.

0:30:36.360 --> 0:30:38.240
<v Speaker 3>But also, like tell me what you'll read on this

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.720
<v Speaker 3>was I mean, that's just felt a lot more weighted.

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:42.960
<v Speaker 1>That's just a normal thing to ask for. And even

0:30:43.000 --> 0:30:50.440
<v Speaker 1>if you're okay at war, you know, for instance, respect Yeah,

0:30:50.440 --> 0:30:52.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean ned Stark had his head cut off for

0:30:52.440 --> 0:30:54.480
<v Speaker 1>being a trader to the crown, and they still send

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>his bones to winterfol Like you just do that. That's

0:30:58.480 --> 0:31:03.800
<v Speaker 1>that's what is done here, considering that as it's a

0:31:03.920 --> 0:31:07.959
<v Speaker 1>courtesy that royals would afford each other, you know, because

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.320
<v Speaker 1>they are a different class of person, and and it

0:31:12.360 --> 0:31:15.240
<v Speaker 1>would be seen as very important. Now, I guess there's

0:31:15.240 --> 0:31:18.880
<v Speaker 1>a world in which Raniera could use the bones as leverage,

0:31:19.040 --> 0:31:21.840
<v Speaker 1>like maybe see if you can get some other concessions,

0:31:22.240 --> 0:31:25.600
<v Speaker 1>or at least wait until like Ormond is definitely gone back.

0:31:26.280 --> 0:31:29.200
<v Speaker 2>And maybe because she has theren she doesn't think she

0:31:29.280 --> 0:31:32.600
<v Speaker 2>needs to do that. Yeah, unclear, but but you know,

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I think that's just that's just a normal thing. That

0:31:35.160 --> 0:31:36.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just a normal thing. Okay, good, I don't want

0:31:36.960 --> 0:31:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Allison to betray my hand. I'm loving where they're at

0:31:39.440 --> 0:31:39.760
<v Speaker 2>right now.

0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:43.440
<v Speaker 1>So we go to the banquet and Raniera makes a

0:31:43.480 --> 0:31:46.600
<v Speaker 1>big speech. She's like everything's being going great, it's so

0:31:46.760 --> 0:31:48.720
<v Speaker 1>nice to have you all here, and of course, like

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:52.200
<v Speaker 1>obviously it's weird that you were supporting the usurper, but

0:31:52.280 --> 0:31:53.440
<v Speaker 1>like that's all forgotten.

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.479
<v Speaker 3>Now let's bring so much good, like little shade.

0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's bring the food out. And then the food

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 1>comes out and it's all like like broiled rat, no

0:32:03.640 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 1>maggots and shit. The nobles are shocked, and Rnera says, well,

0:32:07.120 --> 0:32:09.200
<v Speaker 1>this is what the common folk of me eating. So

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:13.520
<v Speaker 1>while you're here right now, my gold cloaks are in

0:32:13.600 --> 0:32:17.920
<v Speaker 1>your houses and in your storerooms, raiding the stuff and

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>redistributing it to the common people. Good night, and she

0:32:22.800 --> 0:32:26.640
<v Speaker 1>goes toay if Torn Manderly. Torn. Manderly is like loving

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 1>this and she's like why why are you so He's like,

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a very smart move, Like I think that.

0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>I think it's obviously a short term solution, but it's

0:32:36.920 --> 0:32:39.360
<v Speaker 1>a short term solution that will make the small folk

0:32:39.440 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 1>forget that it was your blockade that kind of caused everything.

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:46.840
<v Speaker 1>And then see he walks off. Damon and Raniera discuss this.

0:32:47.360 --> 0:32:50.520
<v Speaker 1>It will buy her some time. He agrees, but they

0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:53.320
<v Speaker 1>need to find like a real proper solution. She's like,

0:32:53.360 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go to the veil, You're gonna talk to

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Jane Aaron. You're gonna get me some money. We need money.

0:32:58.000 --> 0:33:02.120
<v Speaker 1>And Damon is like, listen, forget this like small time

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 1>west ros kings landing shit. Let's you know, let's conquer

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.480
<v Speaker 1>the world. Let's go to Esauce, Let's go to ye t,

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:14.040
<v Speaker 1>Let's go to every dawn, do the whole fucking thing.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:18.320
<v Speaker 1>They then go and have a long discussion in High Valerian,

0:33:18.360 --> 0:33:21.720
<v Speaker 1>discussing the dragons and the prophecies, the destiny of the Targarians,

0:33:21.760 --> 0:33:25.400
<v Speaker 1>the doom of all Valeria. This conversation really made me

0:33:25.520 --> 0:33:31.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like, man, does Raniero just speak with a natural

0:33:31.240 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>High Valerian accent in a way that like other Targarians

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 1>that we've heard speak Valerian don't, because she rolls those

0:33:38.160 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 1>rs so well.

0:33:39.520 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 2>It's so good, Like I could I want them to

0:33:42.320 --> 0:33:45.560
<v Speaker 2>do a whole episode with these two in High Valarian

0:33:46.000 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 2>because when they get going, you get sucked into that,

0:33:49.040 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, every time they talk. It just throws me

0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:53.440
<v Speaker 2>back to the best moments of Graeme of Ferns, Like,

0:33:53.760 --> 0:33:56.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, obviously the most iconic scene where Denaris pretends

0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:57.720
<v Speaker 2>she can't speak.

0:33:57.480 --> 0:34:01.120
<v Speaker 3>High Valarian, and that moment when she says chorus like.

0:34:02.600 --> 0:34:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It's that Lord of the Rings thing, it's hearing the

0:34:05.560 --> 0:34:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Elvish like it sucks you in in a way that

0:34:08.080 --> 0:34:12.440
<v Speaker 2>reminds you you're watching such a fantastical, mythical show. And

0:34:12.480 --> 0:34:16.680
<v Speaker 2>I love this conversation. And also I want to say

0:34:16.680 --> 0:34:21.080
<v Speaker 2>my favorite part of this conversation is Ranera is so

0:34:21.200 --> 0:34:24.319
<v Speaker 2>concerned with the like humanity of being the leader, right

0:34:24.320 --> 0:34:27.160
<v Speaker 2>because that's what her father would want. But Damon says,

0:34:27.360 --> 0:34:29.799
<v Speaker 2>you know, I don't even see us as marauders or

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.280
<v Speaker 2>pirates or kings. He's like, I see us as gods.

0:34:32.960 --> 0:34:35.759
<v Speaker 2>And that is the Targarian madness. And I think that

0:34:35.880 --> 0:34:38.200
<v Speaker 2>is at the heart of the problem, is when they

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>start to see themselves as gods because of the dragons.

0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:42.680
<v Speaker 3>That's always where it goes wrong.

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>So Corlis is the next day at the small council.

0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:51.040
<v Speaker 1>Corlis is very annoyed because Adam is Sir Adam, Yes,

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 1>but he's Adam of Hull, not Adam Valarion. And Rana says, listen,

0:34:57.440 --> 0:35:00.959
<v Speaker 1>I can't do it right now. It's like everybody's looking

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>at us, and you know how they you know, these

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:08.880
<v Speaker 1>spurious rumors about illegitimacy. We can't certainly be just like

0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>legitimizing bastards right now when everybody's talking about my family

0:35:14.719 --> 0:35:18.160
<v Speaker 1>and my children is potentially being bastards. Corlis flies off

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the handle, and honestly he's right to do it.

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 3>Correct.

0:35:21.280 --> 0:35:24.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, this is so crazy to me, Like one

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:28.439
<v Speaker 2>this is giving. Ranera justs whoever is in her ill

0:35:28.520 --> 0:35:31.680
<v Speaker 2>lost she listens to because I love the mysteria. I

0:35:31.760 --> 0:35:35.080
<v Speaker 2>love the wealth distribution. Everyone who listens to this no surprise.

0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm a commie bitch, like we get it. But like,

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:41.279
<v Speaker 2>the thing that blows my mind is how wrong she

0:35:41.480 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 2>is here. It is so the wrong choice because also,

0:35:45.520 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 2>guess what, you already legitimized all your own bastard's babe,

0:35:48.680 --> 0:35:51.279
<v Speaker 2>just commit, like if this is your rule, like you

0:35:51.440 --> 0:35:54.440
<v Speaker 2>brought the dragon seeds in, Like just fuck, he's already

0:35:54.480 --> 0:35:56.920
<v Speaker 2>a dragon seat, just says a Hilarian, like you need

0:35:57.000 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 2>the fucking numbers, Like and if you look back, I

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:00.760
<v Speaker 2>was thinking thinking about.

0:36:00.520 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 3>This so much after watching this episode again this.

0:36:02.800 --> 0:36:05.440
<v Speaker 2>Morning, Like if you go back and look at the

0:36:05.480 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 2>way that Carlis and Renie like stood for Raniera, Like

0:36:11.000 --> 0:36:13.920
<v Speaker 2>it's just fucking insane that she says no. And I

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:18.520
<v Speaker 2>think that one this is gonna come back to bite her,

0:36:18.920 --> 0:36:22.880
<v Speaker 2>and two it is gonna end up being in my opinion,

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.600
<v Speaker 2>like I'm blaming this on the period, Like whatever happens

0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:27.600
<v Speaker 2>after this, this was a bad period decision.

0:36:27.600 --> 0:36:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Babe, shouldn't have made it. It doesn't matter. People know

0:36:30.840 --> 0:36:31.799
<v Speaker 3>you're fucking each other.

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 2>They know there's bastards just fucking Let Adam and Allen

0:36:34.719 --> 0:36:36.799
<v Speaker 2>b Valerians let him continue his line.

0:36:36.920 --> 0:36:39.960
<v Speaker 3>It's good for the Targarians come on, this is crazy.

0:36:40.280 --> 0:36:46.240
<v Speaker 1>So he flies off the handle and he's basically says

0:36:46.280 --> 0:36:49.440
<v Speaker 1>like the most treasonous thing that really you can say,

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.200
<v Speaker 1>which is basically, you know, like you're your kids are bastards. Like,

0:36:53.320 --> 0:36:57.360
<v Speaker 1>let's admit it, they're bastards. I lost my wife, I

0:36:57.440 --> 0:37:00.759
<v Speaker 1>lost my kids, I lost everything, and I along with

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>you ruling despite the fact that your kids are bastards.

0:37:04.200 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't say a fucking word, and now all of

0:37:06.560 --> 0:37:11.560
<v Speaker 1>a sudden you have a problem legitimizing my bastards. You're

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:16.120
<v Speaker 1>fucked up? How dare you? Then goes to tell Alison that,

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>by the way, I have your son, I'm sending him

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.359
<v Speaker 1>to the wall. It's a mercy. He can win honor there,

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:25.840
<v Speaker 1>like I'm not gonna kill him. And Alison's like, do

0:37:25.840 --> 0:37:27.160
<v Speaker 1>you want me to say thank you? And he's like

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.239
<v Speaker 1>basically yeah, because he's going to the wall, he's gonna live.

0:37:30.040 --> 0:37:33.200
<v Speaker 1>Allison says like she's barely seen him, she wants to

0:37:33.239 --> 0:37:34.920
<v Speaker 1>see him, she hasn't seen him at all in the

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>last several years. And they bring Daryn in and Allison

0:37:41.160 --> 0:37:42.160
<v Speaker 1>is like, who the fuck is this?

0:37:43.480 --> 0:37:46.240
<v Speaker 2>Which again, can I just say I love this moment,

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:51.240
<v Speaker 2>because one Alison could have gone along with the ploys,

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.919
<v Speaker 2>just she's too fucked up in that moment. She wants

0:37:54.000 --> 0:37:55.520
<v Speaker 2>to see her kid, And I kind of love the

0:37:55.640 --> 0:37:58.879
<v Speaker 2>rawness and vulnerability that her and Raniera are both sharing here,

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that they just keep fucking it up because of the

0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 2>emotional kind of stress and weight that is on them. Yeah,

0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.080
<v Speaker 2>incredible moment. I did not see this coming, Jason. Is

0:38:09.120 --> 0:38:13.680
<v Speaker 2>this book accurate the dare un switch? Uh no, no,

0:38:13.719 --> 0:38:15.440
<v Speaker 2>he's okay, let's talk more about that.

0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:16.120
<v Speaker 3>It's a new one.

0:38:16.200 --> 0:38:20.360
<v Speaker 1>Huh not at all? No, no, no, Well, the entire surrender

0:38:20.480 --> 0:38:25.360
<v Speaker 1>of Ormond's army is aig change. Ormond just kind of

0:38:25.360 --> 0:38:27.480
<v Speaker 1>marches down and they go to war like it's not

0:38:28.760 --> 0:38:33.920
<v Speaker 1>there is no surrender, and there's there's no feigned Darren,

0:38:34.040 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 1>there's none of this. So yeah, this is this is

0:38:36.040 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 1>a this is a a significant change. Ormond is like

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.240
<v Speaker 1>not he's barely like a peripheral character, Like you really

0:38:43.280 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 1>don't meet him or get much from him. So like

0:38:47.640 --> 0:38:50.720
<v Speaker 1>already what we've seen in him is more than almost

0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.160
<v Speaker 1>as much as you get in the books.

0:38:52.480 --> 0:38:55.040
<v Speaker 2>Okay, big question here that you also noted in your

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:57.319
<v Speaker 2>recap that I had. Let's talk about the fake out

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 2>with Darn, Like, how does it work with the dragon?

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 3>Where was the dragon? How did Damon not take the dragon?

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Like?

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:04.680
<v Speaker 3>What do you think was the situation?

0:39:04.800 --> 0:39:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Though?

0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So Damon sent the the Valarian the Valarian speaking dragon

0:39:11.640 --> 0:39:15.879
<v Speaker 1>keepers to collect the dragon separately after taking Darren fake

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.040
<v Speaker 1>Darren in hand, thinking that that's the prince will take

0:39:19.120 --> 0:39:22.520
<v Speaker 1>him as a hostage. And I guess you can I

0:39:22.600 --> 0:39:25.160
<v Speaker 1>understand the logic because like, no one else is going

0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:28.560
<v Speaker 1>to ride that dragon, and so you're not. He wasn't

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:31.279
<v Speaker 1>worried about it. Should he have taken the dragon at

0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the same time, Yeah, probably he should have, But instead

0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.360
<v Speaker 1>he sent the dragon keepers to grab a hold of

0:39:36.440 --> 0:39:38.320
<v Speaker 1>him because they were going to fly back, right, Remember

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.879
<v Speaker 1>they flew on dragon back. I don't know the three

0:39:41.920 --> 0:39:44.360
<v Speaker 1>of them. Yeah, and it's a teen dragon, you know,

0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:47.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not a fully adult dragon. So what happens at

0:39:47.400 --> 0:39:49.960
<v Speaker 1>the end here is that the dragon keepers have taken

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the dragon. We're taking the dragon, uh, towards King's Landing,

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:59.840
<v Speaker 1>but instead towards and they were stopping off at Tumbleton

0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:04.640
<v Speaker 1>when the high Towers attacked Tumbleton and all the people

0:40:04.680 --> 0:40:08.560
<v Speaker 1>of Tumbleton are now hostages of the High Towers, and

0:40:08.760 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 1>they've lost the dragon and all only this one dragon

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>keeper that came and brought the news has survived. So

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.200
<v Speaker 1>in other words, you have a fake Darn.

0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:23.840
<v Speaker 3>The reel Darren has his dragon.

0:40:23.880 --> 0:40:26.839
<v Speaker 1>The real Darren is with the High Towers and has

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:29.600
<v Speaker 1>his dragon, and they are all at Tumbleton. So this

0:40:29.760 --> 0:40:33.440
<v Speaker 1>is like extremely bad news.

0:40:34.960 --> 0:40:37.719
<v Speaker 2>And Vernera's basically like, I'm a fucking burn everyone, and

0:40:37.760 --> 0:40:39.000
<v Speaker 2>the guys like, please don't do that.

0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 3>You'll support that. So that's the question, right.

0:40:42.160 --> 0:40:47.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, yes, that's the other thing is Tumbleton did the

0:40:47.400 --> 0:40:49.640
<v Speaker 1>leaders of Tumbleton are the foot Leaves, and the foot

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:54.640
<v Speaker 1>Leaves are you know, pro queen people. So it would

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>be a bad look, certainly to just like burn the

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:02.920
<v Speaker 1>entire town out. But I'm sure if you're Damon, you're thinking, well,

0:41:02.960 --> 0:41:04.680
<v Speaker 1>everything's got to be on the table right now. Not

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:09.520
<v Speaker 1>to mention the fact that like Ormond lied, which is

0:41:09.520 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 1>a thing that shouldn't happen in this world. A person

0:41:13.719 --> 0:41:18.720
<v Speaker 1>of standing, certainly a person of the standing of Ormond

0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:21.840
<v Speaker 1>High Tower is not supposed to make an oath and

0:41:21.880 --> 0:41:24.360
<v Speaker 1>then immediately turn his back.

0:41:24.480 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Yet I would also say as well, let's talk about

0:41:28.360 --> 0:41:30.040
<v Speaker 2>just before we go to break and kind of really

0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:33.560
<v Speaker 2>break this down. If we talk about like juice levels,

0:41:33.640 --> 0:41:38.640
<v Speaker 2>like fucking absolute crazy plays. This is going to go

0:41:38.680 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 2>down with Raniera when she was a kid just flying

0:41:40.880 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 2>that fucking dragon and stop in the war, right, Like

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:48.840
<v Speaker 2>the fact that he just lied to Damon's face, fake

0:41:49.080 --> 0:41:54.479
<v Speaker 2>fucking pledged while in front of three dragons and gave

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:58.400
<v Speaker 2>him like I mean, he basically humiliated Damon if you

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.680
<v Speaker 2>really think about it, I mean, Damon's not gonna like that.

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:03.719
<v Speaker 3>But it also makes Ormond look.

0:42:03.760 --> 0:42:06.080
<v Speaker 2>Pretty fucking good to the rest of the high towers

0:42:06.120 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 2>who are following because you played him.

0:42:07.840 --> 0:42:09.080
<v Speaker 3>It will be played the rogue print.

0:42:09.239 --> 0:42:13.520
<v Speaker 1>It will be interesting to see if Damon gets any

0:42:13.560 --> 0:42:15.799
<v Speaker 1>blame from Reneerer for this, because I think you could

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>argue that, like he fucked up, he fucked it. Okay,

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.520
<v Speaker 1>let's take a quick break and we'll be back to

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:41.960
<v Speaker 1>discuss this episode. And we're at Okay, Rosie, you're what

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:46.360
<v Speaker 1>are your big thoughts about episode three? The show continues

0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:49.280
<v Speaker 1>to be really good and get better?

0:42:49.719 --> 0:42:52.680
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts Okay, so I already like my big picture

0:42:52.719 --> 0:42:54.839
<v Speaker 2>that I think is incredible about this is like I

0:42:54.880 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 2>have never seen any kind of medieval inspired show that

0:42:59.480 --> 0:43:01.920
<v Speaker 2>as at end interest in looking at like what a

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:04.279
<v Speaker 2>day in the life of someone on their period would be,

0:43:04.600 --> 0:43:07.440
<v Speaker 2>let alone a queen on her period, and from the

0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.960
<v Speaker 2>moment that they break into that and they use the

0:43:10.040 --> 0:43:13.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of like she's always sweating, she's always fidgeting, like

0:43:13.280 --> 0:43:15.560
<v Speaker 2>the cramps are killing her, and she's having to process

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.920
<v Speaker 2>all these life changing decisions. I just think that almost

0:43:18.920 --> 0:43:21.240
<v Speaker 2>certainly that will not get the shine that it deserves,

0:43:21.280 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>and I think it's what the show does so well,

0:43:23.800 --> 0:43:25.800
<v Speaker 2>so I was really happy to see that. I think

0:43:26.000 --> 0:43:28.919
<v Speaker 2>the biggest question I came away with, aside from like, yeah,

0:43:28.960 --> 0:43:31.319
<v Speaker 2>how much is Rnera gonna fuck over Damon for this one?

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:33.719
<v Speaker 2>Which she deserves, But honestly, I think he's groomed her

0:43:33.719 --> 0:43:35.759
<v Speaker 2>a little bit too much. She doesn't question him as

0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:38.000
<v Speaker 2>much as I think she should. I was very worried

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.120
<v Speaker 2>when she put him in charge of finding her queen's guard.

0:43:40.600 --> 0:43:42.520
<v Speaker 2>I know he believes her now because of the prophecy,

0:43:42.560 --> 0:43:44.959
<v Speaker 2>but I didn't love that. I would have trusted Massiria more.

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:49.359
<v Speaker 2>But what I also think is really interesting that and

0:43:49.400 --> 0:43:51.400
<v Speaker 2>the person I probably want to know most about is

0:43:51.440 --> 0:43:53.240
<v Speaker 2>like what can you tell me about tor and Mandally?

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:57.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that is such an incredible introduction to this

0:43:57.520 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 2>kind of new potential. You know, obviously he's threatening her

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.439
<v Speaker 2>by saying, I know what's really going on, but he's

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:05.480
<v Speaker 2>also kind of saying, let me be an ally, like

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:08.239
<v Speaker 2>I like the game you're playing, and we know the

0:44:08.239 --> 0:44:12.919
<v Speaker 2>inkings landing. You need those kind of double crossing kind

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 2>of like allies were also spies. Like is he someone

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 2>that's gonna be a big part in the coming war?

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:20.880
<v Speaker 3>Is he what can we expect from him? Because I

0:44:20.880 --> 0:44:21.759
<v Speaker 3>thought that was a great intro.

0:44:22.160 --> 0:44:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he is a noble from White Harbor in the north,

0:44:27.760 --> 0:44:30.400
<v Speaker 1>a lord of White Harbor. A very interesting family, the Manderlies.

0:44:30.840 --> 0:44:34.320
<v Speaker 1>The Manderlies were cast. They were formerly a southern family.

0:44:35.600 --> 0:44:38.960
<v Speaker 1>There's a river called the Mander in the southern part

0:44:39.000 --> 0:44:43.680
<v Speaker 1>of the continent, and so they were the founding of

0:44:43.719 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that family is on the banks of the Mander. But

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:50.200
<v Speaker 1>they were forced out in ancient times for reasons that

0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.520
<v Speaker 1>have kind of like fallen into mystery, and they were

0:44:53.560 --> 0:44:55.279
<v Speaker 1>hounded all the way all the way all the way

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>up to the north where they appealed to the Starks,

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>and the Starks were like, hey, uh, we'll set you

0:45:01.200 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 1>up on the banks of the white Knife River and

0:45:06.400 --> 0:45:08.560
<v Speaker 1>they become like the guardians of that river and a

0:45:08.680 --> 0:45:14.319
<v Speaker 1>very important and probably the most wealthy not counting the

0:45:14.360 --> 0:45:19.440
<v Speaker 1>Starks family in the North interesting and are very strong

0:45:19.560 --> 0:45:24.400
<v Speaker 1>Stark loyalists because they owe the Starks for you know,

0:45:24.440 --> 0:45:26.080
<v Speaker 1>bringing it to safety back in the day.

0:45:26.800 --> 0:45:28.839
<v Speaker 3>And he.

0:45:30.719 --> 0:45:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Is, you know, these just kind of like a very

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>worldly and established knight and lord. And he's described in

0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:43.920
<v Speaker 1>the books as like clever and a little a little chunky,

0:45:43.960 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>which I think they've done, but like a well good job,

0:45:47.239 --> 0:45:51.799
<v Speaker 1>but like a well spoken man. And we'll see what

0:45:51.960 --> 0:45:55.240
<v Speaker 1>he manages to what kind of impact he manages.

0:45:55.400 --> 0:45:58.680
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, I think you know Venera's lack

0:45:58.760 --> 0:46:02.120
<v Speaker 2>of money right now of coin with that context, I

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:06.240
<v Speaker 2>find that to be a very interesting potential pairing. Also

0:46:06.280 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 2>my other big thing, Jason, you know, I've been really

0:46:08.640 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 2>big on the Rainer Nettles of it all. We get

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.200
<v Speaker 2>the set up here that Rania is going to send

0:46:15.280 --> 0:46:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Damon to the Veil to see Jane and be like,

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:18.480
<v Speaker 2>give me some money.

0:46:18.600 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 3>I need some fucking money. You got those swords? Did

0:46:20.719 --> 0:46:22.360
<v Speaker 3>you sell them to the brigands? Give me money.

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:25.920
<v Speaker 2>Oh different, different movie, but you know, like we need

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 2>the I'm very excited to see where that goes. So

0:46:29.360 --> 0:46:31.279
<v Speaker 2>I think again, this proves that you will once again

0:46:31.400 --> 0:46:33.000
<v Speaker 2>right that Damon is going to make it to the

0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Veil and probably realize that it was Rainer before the

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:38.040
<v Speaker 2>end of the season. Do you think we get that

0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.600
<v Speaker 2>in episode five, that confrontation. What do you think is

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:44.240
<v Speaker 2>how soon do we get to see him.

0:46:44.200 --> 0:46:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Discover sheep steals right a real.

0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but for me, the thing to watch

0:46:50.160 --> 0:46:54.640
<v Speaker 1>out for is if you remember, Damon way back in

0:46:54.680 --> 0:47:00.000
<v Speaker 1>season one, was married to an important lady of the Veil,

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:04.560
<v Speaker 1>Raya Royce of the Royce family, and he did murder

0:47:04.600 --> 0:47:08.320
<v Speaker 1>her after like spurning her for a number of years,

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:10.680
<v Speaker 1>like never ever ever meeting with her, and then finally

0:47:10.719 --> 0:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>meeting with her and killing her so she could so

0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:16.080
<v Speaker 1>he could be free to marry Raniera. And I just

0:47:16.120 --> 0:47:21.120
<v Speaker 1>get the he's not well regarded in the Veil for

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:25.000
<v Speaker 1>that reason, and understandable. I wonder how much of an

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:30.120
<v Speaker 1>impact that will have on what what happens his his

0:47:30.440 --> 0:47:33.960
<v Speaker 1>like diplomatic mission to the Veil. How much that that

0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:36.440
<v Speaker 1>sabotage is it or I.

0:47:36.480 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Gotta say, like him and Vernera, they are bad plan

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 3>is they need a hand because like, please, Jason, that

0:47:42.120 --> 0:47:43.359
<v Speaker 3>context you just gave is.

0:47:43.320 --> 0:47:47.640
<v Speaker 1>Such a good Corliss is a good Corliss is one

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>of the most capable people in the Kingdom. And the

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that Rania has at this moment like alienated him,

0:47:58.000 --> 0:48:01.279
<v Speaker 1>I think is going to be really destructive for her

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:06.480
<v Speaker 1>not to mention. Like Damon is also honestly a solid adviser.

0:48:06.840 --> 0:48:08.840
<v Speaker 1>You always know what he's going to say, which is,

0:48:08.880 --> 0:48:11.200
<v Speaker 1>fuck the small folk, let's go to war, let's kill everybody.

0:48:11.560 --> 0:48:18.160
<v Speaker 1>But sometimes like that's very often, that's very often. That's

0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:22.280
<v Speaker 1>very often, like pretty accurately what they should do. That said,

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you look around at the people she

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:31.120
<v Speaker 1>has around her or while is solid, Misaria has no

0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:37.040
<v Speaker 1>idea what she's doing, Like is is I can't imagine

0:48:37.040 --> 0:48:39.680
<v Speaker 1>her being good at this job. She has no connections

0:48:39.760 --> 0:48:42.479
<v Speaker 1>outside of like some small folk in.

0:48:42.480 --> 0:48:45.600
<v Speaker 3>Kingsland has been paid off. Now like this was what

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 3>she wanted.

0:48:46.239 --> 0:48:49.359
<v Speaker 1>I just I just think that having her be the

0:48:49.400 --> 0:48:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Mistress of Whispers, It's like, what connections does she have

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:57.279
<v Speaker 1>outside of you know, some people in Flea Bottom. She

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.359
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any connections in the wider country. She doesn't

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.080
<v Speaker 1>have any connections in the great houses anywhere. She doesn't

0:49:04.080 --> 0:49:08.120
<v Speaker 1>even know their handmaidens, their servant, Like can she be like, oh,

0:49:08.160 --> 0:49:11.200
<v Speaker 1>I heard this from my agents in the veil. She

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:16.200
<v Speaker 1>can't do that. So the fact that Rania has elevated

0:49:16.239 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 1>her to you know, whatever this is, is I think

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>a mistake. I think it's a huge mistake because I

0:49:21.920 --> 0:49:23.480
<v Speaker 1>just don't think she's cut out for it.

0:49:23.600 --> 0:49:25.239
<v Speaker 2>You don't think she's got the Jews, she does not

0:49:25.280 --> 0:49:28.760
<v Speaker 2>have the bron.

0:49:27.960 --> 0:49:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I just think it's a very complex job which she's

0:49:30.719 --> 0:49:32.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, kind of being tasked to do, and I

0:49:32.840 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 1>don't think she I don't think she can do it.

0:49:35.360 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 3>Period. Look, let's be real.

0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:38.720
<v Speaker 2>As much as you know, i'd love to see women,

0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:41.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, in a male dominated.

0:49:41.360 --> 0:49:43.799
<v Speaker 3>Workplace, various this one.

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<v Speaker 2>If I would have found out who was flying sheeps

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<v Speaker 2>died a long time ago, like he would have known instantly,

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<v Speaker 2>he would have had a little sparrow out there. He

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<v Speaker 2>would have had that news in a raven to you

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<v Speaker 2>on the day. So you are right, she is not.

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<v Speaker 3>She does not have enough feelers for what Raniera needs.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously, Carllis is not going to be that advisor to

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<v Speaker 2>her Jason. Another question I have about that specific relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>A scene that I adored. I know it really was

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<v Speaker 2>a big deal for a lot of viewers. Joelle loved

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<v Speaker 2>it was Baylor going to find carllss and speaking to

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<v Speaker 2>Alan and Adam. What do you think this is going

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<v Speaker 2>to do to the relationship between Baylor and Reniera, because

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like that was a really important moment for

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<v Speaker 2>Bayla and kind of that acknowledgment of them being family.

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<v Speaker 2>But also currently Rinera just using Bayla as essentially, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a flying eye and not necessarily like looking at how

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<v Speaker 2>she is feeling about stuff. Do you think that could

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<v Speaker 2>drive a wedge between them? Do you think that could

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<v Speaker 2>see her side more with Carlis or does she have

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<v Speaker 2>to be with the queen because of loyalty.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it might cause problems, but not current. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it will cause pressing issues right now. And

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<v Speaker 1>remember that, you know, I mean, Baylor's Damon's daughter, so

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<v Speaker 1>I know, so that's the thing I think that I

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<v Speaker 1>think that she has stronger ties to Raniera and to Damon.

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<v Speaker 1>Then she asked to Corlis and so you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very interesting because in the books, Raniera just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like grants the request. Oh wow, Adam is Adam Valarion

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<v Speaker 1>by the time of the Battle of the Gullet. So ah,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a way to create a really strong rift

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<v Speaker 1>between these characters, and it'll be interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 1>comes out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Okay, I cannot wait to see that. Yeah, now

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<v Speaker 3>that I know that, that's a shift. I love this show, dude,

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<v Speaker 3>I love this shift. It's so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to continue to cover House in the

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<v Speaker 1>Dragon all season long. On the next episode of X

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<v Speaker 1>ray Vision, we're diving into X Men ninety seven, season two,

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<v Speaker 1>episode four. That's it for this episode. Thanks for listening.

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