Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, without.
Speaker 1: Further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Well Miles, we
Speaker 1: are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. A
Speaker 1: creative and political activist who hosts Beyond the Pale and
Speaker 1: w BAI in New York Must Listen these days always
Speaker 1: a must listen, but especially of late, is a caucus
Speaker 1: member of Jews for Racial and Economic Justice, co founder
Speaker 1: of its electoral armed the Jewish Vote. Please welcome back
Speaker 1: to this show, Raphael Schumanna.
Speaker 3: It's good to have you. Man up.
Speaker 2: How you doing, man, that's good.
Speaker 4: You know, considering gestures to the world. Yeah, okay, but
Speaker 4: trying to it's it's so weird. It's like, I think
Speaker 4: a lot of people feel this, but like when the
Speaker 4: world is like this, you're supposed to sometimes lock it
Speaker 4: out and do your job job, and it just seems
Speaker 4: really challenging to get into normal modes like doing laundry
Speaker 4: while will you should be in the streets in what
Speaker 4: feels like all the time right now.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've been in these streets recently arrested and for
Speaker 1: your work trying to get Chuck Schumer to help bring
Speaker 1: about a ceasefire.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and to convince his niece to stop acting and
Speaker 4: stop comedy.
Speaker 2: And that's the social media.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, watching the social media masks will slip on.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, means like.
Speaker 1: Whoa, all right, Well we're going to get into all
Speaker 1: of that plenty more, but first we do like to
Speaker 1: get to know you a little bit better by asking
Speaker 1: you what is something from your search history that's about
Speaker 1: who you are?
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's like the thing I always do,
Speaker 4: and it's probably always the last thing is always I'm
Speaker 4: a bad speller, so it's every random word to just
Speaker 4: get the Google auto correct and then use that as
Speaker 4: a really boring last search start. But it's what I need.
Speaker 4: That's my my lifesaver over there.
Speaker 3: What's the what's the what word? Are getting hung up on?
Speaker 4: One? Is always like So now I developed a nomadic
Speaker 4: device to remember this one principle versus principal pal, and
Speaker 4: I realized, like, you know, the principle of the school
Speaker 4: wants to be your pal.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you just picture the principle of the school,
Speaker 1: turning his baseball cap around backwards.
Speaker 3: Yeah, rap, I want to talk to you about some
Speaker 3: of your Instagram posts.
Speaker 2: My man, I want my office there you go?
Speaker 3: How to that's like we always the same thing with
Speaker 3: a capital, like a capital versus a capitol building. Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't well, I still see that one get through
Speaker 3: like in like established, I guess have this quote unquote
Speaker 3: outlets for journalism and I'm like, you can't fuck that
Speaker 3: up now, I certainly can.
Speaker 1: Can you tell me how you keep it straight? Because
Speaker 1: this principal ship is going to save my ass every time.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I just the toll o L is
Speaker 3: always the building you know. That's for who can the
Speaker 3: bell tolls right.
Speaker 4: The buildings around? Like, oh you could do that?
Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah yeah, But I think I only remembered
Speaker 3: it because I only saw capital written as a kid first.
Speaker 3: And then when that new one out, yeah, like capt
Speaker 3: to caw like it over here.
Speaker 1: So I the I used to get dessert and dessert
Speaker 1: mixed up, and then a girl I was dating, it's like,
Speaker 1: well you always want more dessert and dessert has two s's. Wow,
Speaker 1: nobody wants more dessert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so one so there.
Speaker 4: We just we just spun off a new podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go.
Speaker 1: Also roll when you're when something is rolling, two l's,
Speaker 1: you know, the l's get on a roll. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: that's you know, and this this could be the whole show.
Speaker 3: Matthew Conaughey, mic con august, Hey, what do you know there?
Speaker 2: It is?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well all right, what are you doing to write? Mattheum conaughey.
Speaker 2: So often we were doing it.
Speaker 3: There was run.
Speaker 5: There was like when he was talking about running for office,
Speaker 5: and we were fully in support of it, and so
Speaker 5: we had headlines such as, why not now, McConaughey, why
Speaker 5: not now? Yeah, mcconaugh hey, how about this handsome fella?
Speaker 2: I do like to watch.
Speaker 1: His scene in Wolf of Wall Street on a somewhat
Speaker 1: regular basis. The vocal warm up right into him just
Speaker 1: fully embodying everybody I know who has ever worked on
Speaker 1: Wall Street.
Speaker 3: It's a patron saint of Wall Street bros.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what is something you think is overrated?
Speaker 6: Because it's spooky movie season? I think ari Astor as
Speaker 6: a filmmaker is a bit overrated. The Midsommar, Midsommar Hereditary
Speaker 6: and then the one that came out most recently both Afraid.
Speaker 6: I didn't see that one. I think that he let
Speaker 6: me clarify. I think he is good at making a
Speaker 6: horror movie that makes me feel very scared and unsettled.
Speaker 6: Because I saw both mitzimmartin Hereditarian theaters and they were
Speaker 6: effective horror movies in that I felt miserable and scared
Speaker 6: the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's loud enough to just be scared.
Speaker 1: You want to feel worse, just like bad in general,
Speaker 1: like you've got a flu or something, right, aches.
Speaker 6: I have an emotional I left mid No. I left
Speaker 6: Hereditary with like a migraine headache because I was just
Speaker 6: so tense and like just feel like, Yeah, but I
Speaker 6: don't think he's a good storyteller. I think he's a
Speaker 6: good director, and I think he gets good performances, and
Speaker 6: I know I think he's like good at I guess
Speaker 6: maybe is he overrated.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 6: I just think he's I don't like his screenplays, Like
Speaker 6: I think he's not a storyteller. I think they're kind
Speaker 6: of sloppy. I think that he doesn't know how to
Speaker 6: write women really at all, Like you know, there's and
Speaker 6: he like his treatment of mental health and mental illness
Speaker 6: is really not good anyway.
Speaker 1: It's really like I think there's a lot of filmmakers
Speaker 1: like that. Now who are They have all the power,
Speaker 1: and the thing they choose to do with that power
Speaker 1: is to just like be like I'm going to do
Speaker 1: my own little stories, and they would be like so
Speaker 1: much better off just you know, finding finding other people's
Speaker 1: stories to tell.
Speaker 6: Yeah, or like I don't know, send your draft to
Speaker 6: someone and get.
Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't need him, because Mark I saw that thing.
Speaker 3: Martin Scorsese is like the pacing from Killers of the
Speaker 3: Flower Moon is like inspired by Midsommar and he's like,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, there's the fucking goat and I'm like, I
Speaker 3: wonder what that means for this movie.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this guy's never gonna not make his own
Speaker 1: screenplays after this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're goodbye to anything.
Speaker 1: But like Scorsese, Spielberg, Kubrick, like those people.
Speaker 2: All made other people's screenplays like those.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, you can still be a good filmmaker
Speaker 1: and not just write bad screenplays and makers like.
Speaker 6: The two or However, many scripts that Steven Spielberg wrote
Speaker 6: are like not very good. He's a far better director
Speaker 6: than he's screenwriter.
Speaker 2: What are his I actually didn't even.
Speaker 6: Know the Oh let me look it up here. They
Speaker 6: used to know this, but ai I think oh.
Speaker 2: I was a collaboration with Kubrick, which also yeah, like maybe.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's but by Spielberg. And then the story by
Speaker 3: Ian Watson. Close Encounters are the third kind, right, that's
Speaker 3: written and directed by Spielberg.
Speaker 6: Oh, and he wrote The Fableman's which tracks because it's
Speaker 6: like pretty autobious biographic but.
Speaker 2: It makes sense.
Speaker 6: I like didn't like that movie very much.
Speaker 3: And then Goonies is Chris Columbus based on a story
Speaker 3: by Spielberg.
Speaker 1: Hmmm, I will I will give him that one.
Speaker 3: Older guy pretty good. But that's also three people writing
Speaker 3: with a story by Shielberg. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I didn't realize until very recently that Richard Donner made Goonies,
Speaker 1: like directed Goonies. I always thought it was Christopher Columbus
Speaker 1: because he wrote the screenplay. Richard Donner like really was
Speaker 1: responsible for my entire childhood with like Superman, Doonies, and
Speaker 1: Lethal Weapon, which I saw way too young, and I
Speaker 1: was like, those are like my three favorite movies. Dog, Yeah,
Speaker 1: those hit pretty pretty hard. What is what something you
Speaker 1: think is underrated?
Speaker 7: Apparently we've been severely underrating the money making potential of
Speaker 7: movies for adults. Right, of course, I see film did
Speaker 7: very well last weekend. Now, it had an incredibly high budget,
Speaker 7: but it performed very well. And obviously this is coming
Speaker 7: off the summer one, the Oppenheimer movie, a biopic, A
Speaker 7: Freaking Rock Oppenheimer made nearly a billion dollars worldwide, made
Speaker 7: more than any of the recent Marvel movies has made.
Speaker 7: There is clearly they have clearly created a void of
Speaker 7: demand for movies for grown ups. And it's because once
Speaker 7: one time the narrative was, well, it's just it's just
Speaker 7: Tom Cruise, the last movie star. He's the only one
Speaker 7: keeping at the loft. It's like, no, not really. The
Speaker 7: last Ession of Hossible movie did not do well. But
Speaker 7: there clearly are adults who want to go out to
Speaker 7: the theater with their families or and and not watch
Speaker 7: the Mario Brothers movie. They want to see something for
Speaker 7: for grown ups that looks good on a big screen.
Speaker 2: Some adults. Mario Brothers movie, Okay, laugh, Mario Brothers movie.
Speaker 3: Christus Man, how does he do those how does he
Speaker 3: do those voices?
Speaker 7: He just disappears into every role.
Speaker 3: Hey, it's me Mario. Oh my god, I've done it again.
Speaker 3: Shape shifter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's the Oppenheimer thing is worth like, yeah, at
Speaker 1: the time, it was part of this Barbenheimer Boppenheimer phenomenon.
Speaker 1: That yeah, I feel like we rushed past the fact
Speaker 1: that a biopic of Robert Oppenheimer made almost a billion dollars.
Speaker 1: That's doesn't really make sense and doesn't cohere to any
Speaker 1: form of Hollywood logic.
Speaker 2: You know that, right?
Speaker 1: Is it just it's just because it's Nolan and when
Speaker 1: you have a filmmaker but like has when Stanley Kubrick
Speaker 1: was making movies, like people people weren't rushing out to
Speaker 1: see them, like like it was a blockbuster, you know,
Speaker 1: like it this this feels like it's a new phenomenon
Speaker 1: that we haven't really seen, like a director who anything
Speaker 1: he puts out is just like that's going to make
Speaker 1: a billion dollars and it can be like a dry
Speaker 1: ass you know, and not none that this was like
Speaker 1: a dry, boring movie, but it's it's pretty remarkable and
Speaker 1: very adult of us. And I must compliment we the
Speaker 1: movie going public. All right, let's uh, let's take a
Speaker 1: quick break and we'll be right back and we're back
Speaker 1: and rat First, first of all, I listened to I
Speaker 1: think it was the most recent episode of Beyond the
Speaker 1: Pale is the most recent episode that was on SoundCloud
Speaker 1: where you were talking about your experience, you know, like
Speaker 1: we referenced earlier, you know, protesting at Schumer's house getting arrested.
Speaker 2: That there was a story from.
Speaker 1: The bus that m ypd I'll put you guys on
Speaker 1: the bus after and that there's a story about it
Speaker 1: where there's original and about a wedding song that just
Speaker 1: like kind of warmed my heart in gave me something
Speaker 1: to warm my heart in a place that I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting necessarily to have my heart warmed.
Speaker 2: Can you talk about those two stories.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we were in front of Chuck Schumer's house
Speaker 4: to push him to back the ceasefire legislation that's coming
Speaker 4: out that already has come out since then by Corey
Speaker 4: Bush and Rushido to Lave and others. And he's used
Speaker 4: to people in front of his house and he also
Speaker 4: heard about it. So police were ready. So what we
Speaker 4: have to do is block the streets and Grand Army Plaza,
Speaker 4: which is a big plosa that's like a major Artery
Speaker 4: in Brooklyn, where he lives, and that's where we were arrested.
Speaker 4: I think over fifty three of us or so. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and of course we were put in these buses. NYPD likes
Speaker 4: to commandeer MTA buses when they have a mass arrest,
Speaker 4: and that's what they did. And they were basically pulling
Speaker 4: us into the bus, blocking the traffic. And it's Brooklyn,
Speaker 4: so half the people we blocked the traffic before, we're
Speaker 4: like cheering us and recording and putting on social media.
Speaker 4: So we were going into the bus and I realized
Speaker 4: I sit down, puffed in this bus and hey everyone,
Speaker 4: because police here pretty much are obsessed with arresting people
Speaker 4: for jumping fairs, not paying fairs, and everyone just started
Speaker 4: singing a song like like just calling them out for all,
Speaker 4: like not only comingdeering a bus for free, but all
Speaker 4: of them just walking in for free, which is they
Speaker 4: actually Yeah, there was a story where we were arrested
Speaker 4: with two elected officials in the state and one of
Speaker 4: them was Zoron and he was on Mendani and he
Speaker 4: was with me and a friend and this woman, an
Speaker 4: older woman, amazing adorable activists. Her name is we call
Speaker 4: her Raz but her name is Rosalin Pachessky, and she's
Speaker 4: a very like long time and very involved member of
Speaker 4: Jewish Voice for Peace BAVP, which was part of that
Speaker 4: coalition of left Jewish people and activists that were confronting It.
Speaker 4: Was like two thousand people came out to confront Schumer
Speaker 4: on this and they bring her into the buns and
Speaker 4: she sits down and you imagine like maybe a five
Speaker 4: foot tall, like sweet grandma, and she's looking in and
Speaker 4: sits down. Her hands are behind her back, and what
Speaker 4: we realize is that she's not really cuffed, like she's
Speaker 4: somehow waiting to get a cussed with.
Speaker 2: To pro move.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so your hands buying your back immediately, and they'll
Speaker 1: assume that you've been.
Speaker 4: I don't think why she was cuffed or why maybe
Speaker 4: someone felt bad for her they didn't cover I don't know,
Speaker 4: but the thing is she's like has her hands on
Speaker 4: her back and everyone thinks she's cuffed. And there's this
Speaker 4: Zara Muslim and one of the few are only actually
Speaker 4: Muslim elected that in that state Assembly. He's just like,
Speaker 4: you know, sitting there, we're all like in pain with
Speaker 4: these cuffs, and he just does the most Jewish motherly
Speaker 4: kind of amazing thing, which was you just see her hand,
Speaker 4: you see him and her kind of look and wait
Speaker 4: till the cops are looking the other way. And then
Speaker 4: her hand slips out from her back, goes into a
Speaker 4: bag and takes out a candy which I immediately realize is
Speaker 4: a word. There's original it and Zoron without a word,
Speaker 4: turns around, opens his mouth, and she feeds him this
Speaker 4: candy and makes her hand back in behind her like
Speaker 4: she's a cuff. And it just was the most amazing
Speaker 4: thing for someone like me who often has a camera
Speaker 4: on him. Is really so I'm telling I'm gonna I'm
Speaker 4: reaching Molly Crabapple with this story. She's like, I think
Speaker 4: you all know about her. She's this amazing illustrator, and
Speaker 4: I want to have this illustrated because to me that
Speaker 4: it was this magical moment. And and while I'm experiencing
Speaker 4: that moment, I mean, where there's original Like, where are
Speaker 4: there commercials like this? Like didn't we grow up with
Speaker 4: were there's original commercials like this? Not like in a
Speaker 4: bus getting arrested.
Speaker 3: Right when people are protesting.
Speaker 1: It would have been way more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But it was like typically like an older elder
Speaker 4: or someone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, an elder showing love. Yeah that is, and none of.
Speaker 4: Us we're ever excited by where there's original.
Speaker 1: No, but like in that situation, hell yeah, like the
Speaker 1: brand is strong.
Speaker 4: I didn't know it was still around, but I could
Speaker 4: use one right now. But yeah, I don't like. Yeah,
Speaker 4: so that that's like the story, that's like the ones.
Speaker 4: There's so many stories of ros wherever you go with her.
Speaker 4: He's a powerful figure that brings a lot of history,
Speaker 4: whether her she was like acunity professor and reproductive right
Speaker 4: scholar back in the day when like no one was that, Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's incredible. And then there was this other I think
Speaker 4: the other story you're referring to, who is while I'm like,
Speaker 4: while we're kind of like looking down and we were
Speaker 4: like shaking the bus. We were like giving the cops
Speaker 4: a really hard time. And during that moment, one of
Speaker 4: my someone at Jewish for Racial and Economic Justice, their
Speaker 4: new political director, he came on the bus and I
Speaker 4: guess enough of us knew Alicia actually got married that
Speaker 4: day earlier that day that then that day, Alicia was
Speaker 4: had her marriage and decided that her honeymoon was going
Speaker 4: to be getting arrested with us, and so people just
Speaker 4: started stomping and singing, and it's a bustle of Jews,
Speaker 4: so it was like the Jewish wedding song. I was like,
Speaker 4: everyone's like stand stomping. It was so beautiful. Even I
Speaker 4: even caught a cop like put his hand on his
Speaker 4: heart and just be like, ah, way are you pretending?
Speaker 3: He's like, do y'all need some chairs for the horror?
Speaker 3: Like what take these cups?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's been to it looked like he'd been to
Speaker 4: a Jewish wedding. And you know, those are just like
Speaker 4: the two beautiful things that happen in this kind of
Speaker 4: movement space where where people come out for real shit
Speaker 4: and still we find like joy and write friendship and
Speaker 4: stuff and these things and those long conversations we have
Speaker 4: in jail cells and sitting on a jail cell and
Speaker 4: seeing the carvings of like act up etched on the thing,
Speaker 4: and one day, twenty years from now, someone else sitting
Speaker 4: there seeing the etchings of BLM on the chairs and
Speaker 4: just getting that energy from from this long arc.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I don't know that story.
Speaker 1: And just generally the movement that you're involved in is
Speaker 1: such a beautiful testament to the Jewish faith that like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, so many people at this time of
Speaker 1: terror are willing to like advocate for justice, and it
Speaker 1: reflects like a clarity and a humanism that is uncommon
Speaker 1: in the religions I grew up around, you know, like
Speaker 1: a Baptist in the South, or like Catholicism or you know.
Speaker 2: But I've always I've always admired.
Speaker 1: The Jewish faith, and you know, I feel like this
Speaker 1: is a time when, yeah, people like the things that
Speaker 1: are getting talked about are this violent Zionism or anti Semitism.
Speaker 1: It's like, no, like what about these stories?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Absolutely, yeah.
Speaker 1: But you were also there for a story that came
Speaker 1: up on the show in DC, the action on the
Speaker 1: rotunda and the question that we were asking on this
Speaker 1: show is where the fuck was the FBI?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: More evidence that the deep state has a massive left
Speaker 1: wing bias?
Speaker 2: Am I right?
Speaker 3: I mean there was yeah, like Marjorie Taylor Green said,
Speaker 3: this is an insurrection with that same energy, which was
Speaker 3: really baffling to see when truly we're seeing people come
Speaker 3: together to advocate for peace.
Speaker 4: But there's this Fox clip I should send you, and
Speaker 4: it's it's them like wondering how we got in and
Speaker 4: how we did it. And then the Fox journalist actually
Speaker 4: who was on the ground was kind of like honest.
Speaker 8: And he was just like, Oh, they got in by
Speaker 8: just going through the metal detector and saying that they're
Speaker 8: coming to practice free speech and that's our free speech laws.
Speaker 8: Like they were trying to make it into this big
Speaker 8: thing like people look a way.
Speaker 3: So did Antifa open the doors for that enter it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly, But it was just like anyone can go
Speaker 4: into the rotunda and meet their their Congress member and talk,
Speaker 4: you know, you could literally talk to their staff. You
Speaker 4: passed by, AOC's a bunch of post its on the wall,
Speaker 4: like she's like the rock star in Congress of all
Speaker 4: these post its like showing their adoration and support of AOC,
Speaker 4: and it's kind of it's kind of cool, but.
Speaker 1: Just like, so, so what's the difference between that and
Speaker 1: what happened on January sixth? Like that's why I like, oh,
Speaker 1: just because you guys weren't ripping things off the wall
Speaker 1: and chanting that you wanted to hang.
Speaker 3: The vice president. That's that's why you're allowed in.
Speaker 4: The public. It's it's basically the public doar in public?
Speaker 1: Come on, right, how did you get this cheat code
Speaker 1: that you weren't supposed to rip things off the wall
Speaker 1: and threaten to kill.
Speaker 4: But it was It was that there was two actions
Speaker 4: in DC. One was led by if Not Now and
Speaker 4: that was sealing all the entrances and exits to the
Speaker 4: White House, which the Secret Service arrested people for. And
Speaker 4: then this event a couple of days later for the
Speaker 4: for Congress, and that was to really just take over
Speaker 4: the rotunda. And what happened was there was ten thousand
Speaker 4: people outside supporting US, five hundred went in and together
Speaker 4: that was the largest Jewish action for Palestinians in history
Speaker 4: anywhere in the world.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can you describe what if Not nows? Just for
Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't know.
Speaker 4: So there's two groups really largely at play here. One
Speaker 4: is if Not Now and if Not Now so j
Speaker 4: Alstar JVP Jewish Voice Piece because it's older, it's like
Speaker 4: three decades old, and it started of course with in
Speaker 4: solidarity with Palestinian So it's very much like their orientation
Speaker 4: is like go to the front line of who's being
Speaker 4: affected by the occupation and apartheid and let them lead
Speaker 4: and we be their Jewish allies, their comrades, you know,
Speaker 4: and that's a beautiful model. And if not, now it's
Speaker 4: ok another level, not in competition or anything, but like
Speaker 4: that identifying that there's also something in our culture and
Speaker 4: how we were raised that needs to be addressed and
Speaker 4: that we need to unlearn the things that we were
Speaker 4: raised with throughout our lives. And so it's very much
Speaker 4: inward and it's very much more youth oriented at least initially,
Speaker 4: and then also really specifically about ending American Jewish support
Speaker 4: for for apartheid and occupation.
Speaker 3: Like and I've seen so many wilds, Like I've seen
Speaker 3: people call Jewish Voice for Peace like a terrorist group,
Speaker 3: like some really awful shit or like and I and rap.
Speaker 3: Since I've known you, and like you've come on the show,
Speaker 3: like we've had a lot of conversations where your work
Speaker 3: in you know, standing up and they're being in solidarity
Speaker 3: with the people of Palestine has opened you up to
Speaker 3: all kinds of tacks like that people would accuse you
Speaker 3: of being like self of self hatred and things like that.
Speaker 3: I'm really curious, especially for you, who's so involved in
Speaker 3: this and is looking at it through the perspective you
Speaker 3: are like what that's been like to watch watch these
Speaker 3: things unfold the last few weeks and begin to see
Speaker 3: these rifts open up in really really dramatic ways, and
Speaker 3: you know like what that process is to sort of
Speaker 3: look on and say like so, like some of us
Speaker 3: are here, others are completely there. Yeah, like what how
Speaker 3: do we make sense of it?
Speaker 4: That's such a good question, And there's still so many
Speaker 4: open things that we're learning, Like right now there is
Speaker 4: a U saw the statistics. There is a huge difference
Speaker 4: depending on your age and like where you fall. And
Speaker 4: this issued either as an American of any faith or
Speaker 4: no faith, or as a Jew. But I think if
Speaker 4: not now in JPP had like shift the paradigm and
Speaker 4: made it safer for a lot of people to be
Speaker 4: able to say, like why am I being called anti Semitic?
Speaker 4: If these Jews are also believe what I believe? And
Speaker 4: then also we do that too, like we say, why
Speaker 4: are we called self hating Jews? If Israel's largest human
Speaker 4: rights organization calls it apartheid and there's a whole society
Speaker 4: called breaking the silence? Who are veterans in Israel who
Speaker 4: oppose the occupation. Many of them had even refused to
Speaker 4: serve and spend jail time refusing to serve, and it
Speaker 4: continues today. And these are like teenagers, like or early
Speaker 4: twenty year olds. So there's all this kind of layers
Speaker 4: upon layers of people seeking safety through validation. And it's
Speaker 4: kind of sad because what results for Palestinians is that
Speaker 4: I think you've probably seen all these super clips online,
Speaker 4: and that is when Palestinians are brought on to news shows,
Speaker 4: they're not asked about if their families, okay, who they lost,
Speaker 4: what they fear. They're asked if they support terrorism, you
Speaker 4: can ask, yeah, exactly, and it's really and then some
Speaker 4: of the Palestinian guests and experts and journalists would say, oh,
Speaker 4: by the way, my uncle died and my niece is
Speaker 4: missing and x y Z thanks for asking, you know
Speaker 4: what I mean, and they would just go they would
Speaker 4: just pivot back to Amman, which is really it's it's
Speaker 4: really I can't imagine what that feels like to have
Speaker 4: to be to not only have to disavow things like
Speaker 4: I posted. I mean the other day it was an
Speaker 4: asteroid that was coming to Earth to destroy and I wrote, yeah,
Speaker 4: but do Palestinian support it? You know, like it's just
Speaker 4: like becoming this thing. We're just gross. And also when
Speaker 4: they do speak about anything with Israel and Palestine, a
Speaker 4: Palestinian has to be like a PhD in European anti
Speaker 4: semitism in order not to say something that's triggering and this,
Speaker 4: and I understand those triggers, but also there's almost zero
Speaker 4: grace for Palestinians to just even mourn or speak for
Speaker 4: their own security.
Speaker 1: Here we get this article in the La Times over
Speaker 1: the weekend about how the left has really let us down.
Speaker 1: I mean that we've gotten this article over and over again.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, it's millennials are killing X industry. Is
Speaker 3: the left is really there this week it's this thing.
Speaker 1: And like they're going to be able to find anti
Speaker 1: semitism on the left because there's anti semitism everywhere, Like
Speaker 1: anti semitism is it is a huge problem. But in
Speaker 1: this context, as you're as you're there involved in this
Speaker 1: struggle for peace, it seems like you've seen something quite
Speaker 1: different from anti semitism being on the grid for these
Speaker 1: protests and these actions.
Speaker 4: We like to say peace and justice, right, like peace, yeah,
Speaker 4: because like a lot of people, yeah, a lot of
Speaker 4: people define peace, and I think peace is the right word,
Speaker 4: but a lot of people have redefined peace. I mean quiet,
Speaker 4: and like you know, there's no there's no there's no
Speaker 4: rally as I can tell, or or Black Lives Matter
Speaker 4: right now on the street that's very large right now,
Speaker 4: But that doesn't mean there's peace, right there's still those
Speaker 4: things are still happening every day. So I guess I
Speaker 4: like to remind folks to also say just this part,
Speaker 4: because peace in Gaza is four hours of electricity a day,
Speaker 4: calorie counting by Israel, to not allow too much food
Speaker 4: and water, limitations, blockade around every well, note travel restrictions,
Speaker 4: it's just open air prison. And a lot of people
Speaker 4: define the day before that horrendous attack by Hamas on civilians,
Speaker 4: A lot of people define that that day before that
Speaker 4: is peace. And yeah, anti Semitism. Yeah. Another thing is
Speaker 4: like it's very easy to kind of assume anti Semitism
Speaker 4: is like in the water in the air, and it's
Speaker 4: really it's something that's manufactured by the right and it
Speaker 4: was created by the right in Europe in order to
Speaker 4: remove to create, like a middle manager like to create.
Speaker 4: So the core of racism is this like supremacy, ethnic supremacy,
Speaker 4: and for example, the idea that someone exists like Martin
Speaker 4: Luther King or Nelson Mandela or something exists like black
Speaker 4: culture defining global culture for decades and decades, all of
Speaker 4: these amazing accomplishments, all the inventions, all the things, all
Speaker 4: the scientific breakthroughs that any black person does, negates the
Speaker 4: idea of white supremacy. So a useful tool to undo
Speaker 4: that is the idea of this mystical Jewish person. This
Speaker 4: Jewish person, be it Sorrows or whoever, is behind the
Speaker 4: success of black people. It's behind the migrant, you know,
Speaker 4: like the idea that America is this immigrant beaconto for
Speaker 4: immigration and all these things. And so it's a really
Speaker 4: useful tool to a redirect like financial pain and suffering
Speaker 4: from capitalism to a group of people, and also to
Speaker 4: protect the idea of the myth of white supremacy. And
Speaker 4: I guess, like what I'm seeing on the streets to
Speaker 4: your question, finally, what I'm seeing on the streets, I
Speaker 4: do see occasionally anti Semitic thing. I will see it,
Speaker 4: and then sometimes most of the time I'll call the
Speaker 4: person in and be like hey, like they'll be like
Speaker 4: the Jewish state. This is like what the Jewish state does.
Speaker 4: And I'll be like, well, do you mean the Israeli
Speaker 4: state or do you mean the Jewish state? And then
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, I didn't think about that. But had
Speaker 4: they said that in front of a New York Post reporter,
Speaker 4: that would be on the front page and would be
Speaker 4: used to define DSA, would be used to define anything
Speaker 4: and try to destroy the left. And what I saw
Speaker 4: in Israel there is an Arab town I forget the
Speaker 4: name right now, there's an Arab town that after the attacks,
Speaker 4: welcomed Jewish refugees. And the history of that Arab town
Speaker 4: was it was one of it was the site of
Speaker 4: the most horrific massacre by Jews of Palestinians of Arabs
Speaker 4: in that town. And they still are opening their doors
Speaker 4: to the families affected by that attack by Hamas. You know,
Speaker 4: you're seeing these things on the street and you're you're
Speaker 4: basically going to find what you're looking for, right, And
Speaker 4: the question is what are you amplifying and what are
Speaker 4: you using to define an entire thing with?
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I've seen how useful that sort of the
Speaker 3: left is anti Semitic, like that, how that take has
Speaker 3: been used by like establishment democrats and shit to completely
Speaker 3: try and take the wind out of the sales or
Speaker 3: question the validity of people pointing out that the ills
Speaker 3: of Palestinian people living under occupation and then just being
Speaker 3: able to sort of use this like thought killing cliche
Speaker 3: to be like, well, they're all anti Semitics, So let's
Speaker 3: now back to our person on the ground from the
Speaker 3: IDF that is going to tell us exactly what's happening now.
Speaker 3: And yeah, like I see how like in a way,
Speaker 3: like for the establishment politics too, like this has been
Speaker 3: used to being like, oh, we can also sort of
Speaker 3: try and kneecap a movement as well by bringing it
Speaker 3: into this, you know, a very skewed perspective that they want.
Speaker 4: To show absolutely absolutely And also what I saw the
Speaker 4: difference in our protests, the Jewish ones, the police were
Speaker 4: like there and they threw a lot of people around
Speaker 4: and did this stuff. But when I went to the
Speaker 4: Palestinian youth protest in front of the Israeli Embassy in
Speaker 4: DC on that Friday night, it was riot gear. It
Speaker 4: was cars parked in a way. There was also this guy,
Speaker 4: infamous cop I forget his name, but he's known to
Speaker 4: have killed a BLM protester and he's just walking around
Speaker 4: like it was so different, and these were two kid
Speaker 4: it right, and it was it was wild that these
Speaker 4: kids in this little residential neighborhood of this very secure
Speaker 4: Israeli embassy were met with riot cops versus us in
Speaker 4: the heart of the power of the United States and
Speaker 4: the most sensitive part of the world. And we were
Speaker 4: just you know, singing into a bus, you know.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, let's uh, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 1: we'll come back.
Speaker 2: We'll keep talking about this.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back and we're just
Speaker 1: going to get right down to right down to it.
Speaker 1: Five night Freddy's video game movie that did not was
Speaker 1: not aware that I had a sense based on the poster.
Speaker 1: It was something it was a movie based on something
Speaker 1: based on video game and it's like spooky Chucky, did
Speaker 1: you guys, Yeah.
Speaker 9: Which is I'm bummed that the movie sucks because it
Speaker 9: was Chuck could really use the good pr right now.
Speaker 10: Yeah, there, Did either of you play it?
Speaker 9: I never played it, but I remember that was the
Speaker 9: first video game I ever saw, like play through YouTube.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, okay, I've I never played it, but when
Speaker 3: we were both working at Playboy Jamie. When I was
Speaker 3: doing video there, there was like a video series with
Speaker 3: two playmates that are gamers, and I remember I had
Speaker 3: to like produce a shoot with that, and I was like,
Speaker 3: what the fuck. And I was like, oh, this game
Speaker 3: is fucking freaky. But I'm not into horror as a
Speaker 3: like a genre, but I have seen it played and like,
Speaker 3: at the time, this was like the biggest shit, Like
Speaker 3: I think it came out in twenty fourteen, but yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like a you know, huge, huge, like indie game.
Speaker 3: M yeah, it was.
Speaker 9: I didn't even realize it was an indie game because
Speaker 9: of how like, yeah, that was the first time I
Speaker 9: had ever like encountered that as a thing that happened
Speaker 9: and thought it was isolated. And then you know, obviously
Speaker 9: I've never stopped seeing it. But it's I mean, Haunted
Speaker 9: Animatronics a great idea, and the guy who invented the
Speaker 9: Chuck E Cheese animatrons very racist, like don't don't fuck
Speaker 9: with this guy.
Speaker 10: However, however, there he uh, at.
Speaker 9: Least up as as recently as a couple of years ago,
Speaker 9: still had this warehouse in Florida where the animatronics were
Speaker 9: once made, and was really trying to capitalize on the
Speaker 9: success of five Night Freddy.
Speaker 10: And because he basically lived in uh.
Speaker 9: You know, like haunted Animatronics palace, so he started like
Speaker 9: selling the like five Night Freddie birthday party experience with
Speaker 9: his like scary old animatronics and it seemed to be
Speaker 9: somewhat successful.
Speaker 3: At some point. I mean, like the real the diehard
Speaker 3: fans are like they fuck. I mean, it's there's a
Speaker 3: reason why it became a Blumhouse film. It's because he
Speaker 3: definitely there is an audience. There's an absolute audience for it.
Speaker 1: Producer Victor is noting that there are multiple three hour
Speaker 1: lower documentaries about five Night, five Night.
Speaker 10: Five Night Freddy.
Speaker 3: Yea Reddy?
Speaker 10: What could that possibly mean? That's that's so interesting.
Speaker 3: Well, that's like a big thing that like as the
Speaker 3: reviews come in, like there's a whole debate where some
Speaker 3: people are like it's not really for casuals man, like
Speaker 3: if you don't funk, like, or some people are like
Speaker 3: there's not enough for vision. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is wild,
Speaker 3: Like I'm and I'm like, it's interesting following the reaction because,
Speaker 3: like anything, when you have a huge like when a
Speaker 3: fandom gets to that point where now like a Plumhouse
Speaker 3: or major studios like, yeah, let's see if we can
Speaker 3: make money off of this. It's always interesting to see
Speaker 3: how like inevitably the fans will be disappointed. I think
Speaker 3: it's just generally what's always gonna happen, Like it's there's
Speaker 3: only a few instances where you have something with like
Speaker 3: a huge mega following take that next jump to like
Speaker 3: major film distribution, and it be you know, palatable.
Speaker 9: I was kind of I was positive because I didn't
Speaker 9: see I kind of forgot it was coming out until
Speaker 9: I they showed the trailer at saw X and I
Speaker 9: was like, damn, they got Hutcherson.
Speaker 10: And my friend was like, I don't think that's hard
Speaker 10: to do.
Speaker 3: What did you just say, Yeah, damn, Josh's what like
Speaker 3: twenty twelve, Yeah you need something.
Speaker 9: I did see Josh Hutcherson getting into a very quiet
Speaker 9: argument with his girlfriend in front of a restaurant near
Speaker 9: my house once.
Speaker 10: So it is like not that hard to get Hutcherson.
Speaker 9: But but I was like, I don't know, maybe I
Speaker 9: just like went twenty twelve brain for a.
Speaker 10: Second, where like, oh my damn, they got Hutcherson. Five
Speaker 10: Night Freddy is huge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's bigger than Hunger Games.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: There's something about the minds of people who are like
Speaker 1: scared of animatronics I guess, or like into I don't know,
Speaker 1: because the writer of the original indie game also like
Speaker 1: a right wing person.
Speaker 10: God, what is it with animatronics and being a piece
Speaker 10: of shit?
Speaker 3: I think because they're like techno slaves or some shit.
Speaker 3: Probably you know, Yeah, it's like I make them do
Speaker 3: what I say, and I can make you in my
Speaker 3: like I don't know. That's probably some weird god complex.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I can some level.
Speaker 3: But hey, I would love to see where the where
Speaker 3: the woke anamaz.
Speaker 9: Right, I mean there's certainly woke animatronic fans, but I
Speaker 9: right right, but we're not technically minded unfortunately, right right.
Speaker 3: Right right, you're just there for the commentary.
Speaker 1: We are topping out for five nights at Freddy's. We
Speaker 1: are topping out on metacritics. So the overall metacritics score
Speaker 1: is twenty nine, an average of twenty nine, and we're
Speaker 1: topping out. Usually usually you will get like one or
Speaker 1: two that's like, hey, I actually enjoyed this because I
Speaker 1: was like, my meds are dialed in or something, you know,
Speaker 1: Like so like I sometimes I just enjoy the hell
Speaker 1: out of them. Like one of my favorite filmgoing Expirits
Speaker 1: was Die Hard for for no reason other than I
Speaker 1: was just in a good, good movie. Right place in
Speaker 1: your life, Yeah, good place in my life. I loved
Speaker 1: that movie the first time I saw it, and then
Speaker 1: I watched it again, I was like, oh, this is bad,
Speaker 1: right right right, But like this is at we're topping
Speaker 1: out at two out of five stars. Most of them
Speaker 1: are lower than that average, and this like not all
Speaker 1: reviews are in, but it's it seems pretty dismal, and
Speaker 1: everyone's saying it's boring. Yeah, it's not boring.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean even like the fans, Like there's a
Speaker 3: guy who would like stream it on YouTube, like this guy,
Speaker 3: Jack Septic guy, Like his review is like it is
Speaker 3: not great, sort of like the nice person and a
Speaker 3: lot of people were like, you made a lot of
Speaker 3: five nights of freddie content. But again I think that's
Speaker 3: where like you see a lot of you know, other
Speaker 3: other fans come in and be like it's just people
Speaker 3: aren't gonna understand it. It's not for normies. But then
Speaker 3: this guy who like plays the game a ton is
Speaker 3: like just felt rushed in some spots. Other parts it
Speaker 3: just was very normal, like did not feel like as
Speaker 3: you know, original as like the game the original idea
Speaker 3: is itself.
Speaker 1: So you see the trailer, You're like, oh, they got Hutcherson,
Speaker 1: but they but they Like now I'm kind of embarrassed
Speaker 1: because Hutcherson knows like what I'm into, and like they
Speaker 1: did such a bad job with the lore that now
Speaker 1: like I'm like, they shouldn't have done this to Hutcherson
Speaker 1: or us.
Speaker 9: Or Matthew Lillard, you know Matthew they got they got Lillard,
Speaker 9: that got Lillard.
Speaker 3: I mean Mary Stuart Masterson.
Speaker 9: Kind of a star studded cast. I was really impressed
Speaker 9: with the cast. I love that they got Lillard. I
Speaker 9: feel like Lillard.
Speaker 10: Played the game.
Speaker 9: That's my guess is that Lillard was into it. Hudgerson,
Speaker 9: we don't. I don't know of his hobbies. I don't know.
Speaker 3: His agents were like, hey man, you're gonna have to
Speaker 3: say yes to this.
Speaker 2: We got bad news.
Speaker 10: You have to be the leading five knight Freddy.
Speaker 1: You're five knife Freddy because you're Freddy Freddy.
Speaker 3: Your Knife. Yeah, you're Knife Freddie, because nobody was fucking
Speaker 3: with Journey to the Center of the Earth too.
Speaker 10: God, he was in that.
Speaker 9: Uh it's a bummer that we would eat at the
Speaker 9: same realm in place. It's like when I saw Taylor
Speaker 9: Lautner at a bar, I go too, and you're just like,
Speaker 9: this is this sucks recently. It's like five years ago,
Speaker 9: so I think that.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but I mean like post like super high
Speaker 3: Twilight Peak.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, And it was like a place where you
Speaker 10: get like, you know, three dollars backwash.
Speaker 9: I'm like, why the hell is Taylor Latner here drinking
Speaker 9: three dollars backwash with the pleabs?
Speaker 3: Was he doing the thing where he had his back
Speaker 3: to the bar looking out at the bar.
Speaker 10: He was holding court, he was holding the court.
Speaker 9: It was really cool, Like he bought rounds, he was
Speaker 9: holding court. He had no issue with you knowing he
Speaker 9: was drinking backwash at the bar, which is cool. That's
Speaker 9: a cool quality. He was with I think his girlfriend
Speaker 9: now his wife also named Taylor. That's not very cool.
Speaker 9: I don't think Wait he married a Taylor. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 9: now they're the Tailor's Lotner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's incredible. Should we talk about the Britney Spears
Speaker 1: memoir the audio book.
Speaker 3: Have you got Williams. Yeah, I've just slowly seen some
Speaker 3: like excerpts get sort of elevated to the top. But
Speaker 3: obviously I think the big one with the release of
Speaker 3: the audio book was everyone sharing the clip of Michelle
Speaker 3: Michelle Williams doing an impression of Justin Timberlake doing a
Speaker 3: black scent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's what It's a lot. Have you not heard it?
Speaker 3: No, Jamie for someone who is so online, I'm like, James,
Speaker 3: this is old hat for Jamie, I'm sure. Okay. So
Speaker 3: I was.
Speaker 9: I was trying to. I was like, let's see how
Speaker 9: long I because I was like I want to read it.
Speaker 9: And I also was waiting for an episode of Chelsea
Speaker 9: Devonte's podcast about it.
Speaker 10: It was like, and then I'll engage.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, wait, just one excerpt, you know, like this
Speaker 3: is one loose line that's like blowing up where she's
Speaker 3: first of all, like Britney Spears is talking about why
Speaker 3: she was fucking with in Sync over Backstreet Boys. She's
Speaker 3: like in sync, like they listen to hip hop, like
Speaker 3: they seem more oriented towards that kind of culture or
Speaker 3: the back She Boys. Felt very white. I'm just gonna
Speaker 3: we'll just play this clip really quick because there's.
Speaker 9: All white guys from Florida, and yeah, like by the
Speaker 9: same guy.
Speaker 3: Let's not forget Chris with his techno dreads either, but hey,
Speaker 3: let's focus on Skylark. So but yeah, this is a
Speaker 3: this is one of the excerpts here, just talking about
Speaker 3: this time where he met another famous R and B musician.
Speaker 1: So the other thing, like a lot of people are
Speaker 1: pointing out like this seems Michelle Williams is a five
Speaker 1: time Academy Award nominee. People are like, why is she
Speaker 1: doing this? And then they're listening and they're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's the best that has ever done this before. She's
Speaker 1: killing it. She's doing a great job. So yeah, this
Speaker 1: is a little sample of that, and it's an anecdote
Speaker 1: that a lot of it's caught a lot of people's attention.
Speaker 11: His band in Sync was what people back then called
Speaker 11: so Pimp. They were white boys, but they loved hip hop.
Speaker 11: To me, that's what separated them from the Backstreet Boys,
Speaker 11: who seemed very conciously to position themselves as a white group.
Speaker 11: In Sync hung out.
Speaker 10: With black artists.
Speaker 1: Sometimes.
Speaker 11: I thought they tried too hard to fit in. One day,
Speaker 11: Jay and I were in New York going to parts
Speaker 11: of town I'd never been to before. Walking our way
Speaker 11: was a guy with a huge, blinged out medallion. He
Speaker 11: was flanked by two giant security guards. Jay got all
Speaker 11: excited and said so loud, oh yeahes Genuine, what's up, homie?
Speaker 11: After Genuine walked away, Felicia did an impression of Jay.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, boches boshes Genuine.
Speaker 10: Jay wasn't even embarrassed.
Speaker 1: Wow, I like the there's like a YadA YadA pass that.
Speaker 1: I'm sure they had an interaction, but it kind of
Speaker 1: suggests that Genuine just he did that and Genuine just
Speaker 1: walked away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like, oh my god, the fuck is that?
Speaker 9: The abrupt switch after the like the audio book pause
Speaker 9: before Genuine walked away, Like you're.
Speaker 2: Just oh my god, after Jaine walked away.
Speaker 9: She's a professional's good professional.
Speaker 10: That alarming.
Speaker 9: I'm looking forward to, uh to reading that book or
Speaker 9: probably more likely listening to it.
Speaker 10: Celebrity memoirs are meant to be.
Speaker 3: Listened to, especially oh yeah, because I'm pretty sure what
Speaker 3: Britney spears personally was like I want Michelle Williams to
Speaker 3: narrate this, like, this is why this is happening.
Speaker 10: Very weird, very weird.
Speaker 3: How do they know each other dialed in so well? Though?
Speaker 3: What better person to lend your voice or to have
Speaker 3: their like, have them lend their voice and have Michelle
Speaker 3: Williams do the Britney Spears book so good get the egot?
Speaker 9: Yeah she will, this is her grammy, Yeah, yeah, beautiful.
Speaker 1: There's I mean, there's all sorts of There's also the
Speaker 1: story that Britney Spears almost got what was the famous
Speaker 1: role that she almost oh the Notebook, the Notebook, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she almost was cast in the Notebook.
Speaker 3: She was like in the field.
Speaker 2: It was between no.
Speaker 1: It, she was in the final two, between her and
Speaker 1: Rachel McAdams, and like they like Scarlett Johansson all these
Speaker 1: other people had tried out and they were like, Britney
Speaker 1: Spears is like fucking nailing this really absolutely like an
Speaker 1: amazing actor.
Speaker 10: Oh wow, there's like her audition tape.
Speaker 3: Is event I think they camera tested with with Ryan too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I always want.
Speaker 9: I mean, I know that there were a number of
Speaker 9: extenuating circumstances in Brittany's life that uh, but I was
Speaker 9: her her movie career was like a non starter, and
Speaker 9: up until recently you couldn't even get Crossroads, Like you
Speaker 9: couldn't even stream it until recently. Even though that was
Speaker 9: like an early Shonda Rhyme's.
Speaker 1: Script, Oh I didn't realize that.
Speaker 9: Yeah, that was like one. I think it was like SHONDERI.
Speaker 9: One of Shonda Rhyme's like first produced scripts ever was
Speaker 9: the Britney Spears vehicle Crossroads.
Speaker 10: And she's so good.
Speaker 9: In it, and she's so charming and like she's a
Speaker 9: good actor, and it's like there it worked out for
Speaker 9: Mandy Moore many more kind of dropped music and started
Speaker 9: this is Us singer. I still don't know what that
Speaker 9: show is about, but damn, she would have been cool
Speaker 9: in the notebook.
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what Shonda rhymes. Also, didn't she do Princess
Speaker 3: Diaries too?
Speaker 2: That was like another super early one.
Speaker 9: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, sean shot after Crossroads? Yeah right yeah,
Speaker 9: pre Crossroads And if I'm recalling, I know I know
Speaker 9: too much of Shonda's filmography. I think it's just shy
Speaker 9: of It's like the year before Grey's Anatomy. She did
Speaker 9: Princess Diaries too, Royal Engagement, yep, sure enough, it is true.
Speaker 10: It is true. But I'm like, what is Shonda's relationship
Speaker 10: with Britney? Is there one? Yeah, I don't know, we
Speaker 10: don't know.
Speaker 2: Right what could have been? You know?
Speaker 3: Truely if she was Meredith Gray, yeah, you know.
Speaker 9: Yeah, right, but then it's like we would have been
Speaker 9: I mean, and again this is like not even taking
Speaker 9: into account what happens later in Britney's career, but like
Speaker 9: we would have we would have not gotten some really
Speaker 9: solid Britney albums if she if she had gotten too
Speaker 9: far into acting.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, when she talks about it, she's like,
Speaker 1: you know, at a certain point, I decided to stop
Speaker 1: auditioning and just record, just drop classic albums on you all.
Speaker 10: And if yeah, if.
Speaker 9: We got because if we got like if we got
Speaker 9: Brittany in the Notebook, we may not have gotten Blackout
Speaker 9: And that would have been challenging for me as a youth.
Speaker 10: That would for American culture, that would have been pretty hard.
Speaker 1: America's bad right now. I think America's bad right now.
Speaker 1: Try and picture this counterpack. But yeah, and also she
Speaker 1: has a quote, like in one of the articles I
Speaker 1: read about the note Book thing that she was like
Speaker 1: it was just mentally too difficult, Like I just embodied
Speaker 1: the character, and like trying out for that character like
Speaker 1: got to me so like she was almost like too
Speaker 1: meth for to to like actually pursue acting because it
Speaker 1: was just like too painful for her, that one.
Speaker 2: Which sounds like a great actor, like, yeah, let's let's
Speaker 2: make it happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah. It's funny too, like because Justin Timberlake does not
Speaker 3: come out looking good in this too. Like she talks
Speaker 3: about how like she became pregnant like with his child
Speaker 3: and then you know, have an abortion and things like that,
Speaker 3: and then like now it's funny to see the pr
Speaker 3: machine move in Justin's direction and they're like, Justin Timberlake
Speaker 3: is fine. He's actually just focusing on being with his
Speaker 3: family like amid the noise.
Speaker 9: But it's also like pretty well documented that his family
Speaker 9: does not like him.
Speaker 10: So cool, I hope.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they're.
Speaker 9: Really enjoying spending time with you on this your fiftieth cancelation.
Speaker 9: I was trying to I was trying to think of,
Speaker 9: you know, like because of SAG rules, I'm like I
Speaker 9: have to think of like a Halloween costume I can wear,
Speaker 9: and I have a lot of I can pretty close
Speaker 9: to replicate the Justin Timberlake denim outfit. And so I'm
Speaker 9: trying to put something together like recently Disgrace Denim boyfriend.
Speaker 9: But but it's getting the hat together because then I,
Speaker 9: you know, and then I was just gonna put you know, tears, streaks,
Speaker 9: some snotch like that recently disgraced dnhim boyfriend.
Speaker 10: That's a that's a free one for everything.
Speaker 3: You got to get those gradiated, like those gradient shades too.
Speaker 9: Oh my god, yeah, like the yellow, the freaky late
Speaker 9: nineties blue blockers everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yo, it's so wild like that that outfit.
Speaker 3: There's like how there's like tutorials on how to make
Speaker 3: the Disgrace Denim boyfriend outfit. Like it's like it's how
Speaker 3: to make your denim Britney and Justin good lord, what
Speaker 3: a time?
Speaker 10: What a time?
Speaker 9: I mean, great, great, horrible man, great outfits. Brittany, God
Speaker 9: bless her, she's.
Speaker 3: A keep on dancing with those Knights girl.
Speaker 2: Or done? All right, that's gonna do it.
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