WEBVTT - "Don't Drink the White One" with Sam Jay 0:00:02.440 --> 0:00:05.120 At this point, like black people were just like an 0:00:05.200 --> 0:00:09.120 unsatisfiable girlfriend, like we really just we really just need 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:11.719 to leave, you know what I mean? But every day 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.080 we just like that, ain't it? You know what I'm 0:00:14.080 --> 0:00:16.119 saying it is, And it's like they'd be trying with 0:00:16.320 --> 0:00:19.200 there's nothing, there's really nothing. They watched the feet, like 0:00:19.239 --> 0:00:21.360 you go, why you watching feet? They put on a 0:00:21.440 --> 0:00:24.959 can take me like you idiot, take that home. You 0:00:25.079 --> 0:00:28.560 wasn't washing my feet before? Why to wash my feet? Now? 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:31.640 They give out the oscars you should have been gave her. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:34.640 Now you want to giving them because we black. There's 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.160 just no there's nothing they could do. It's like y'all 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:49.880 just have to go away. And yes, my chips in 0:00:50.000 --> 0:01:09.800 your racist money altern stuff, I can't tell me. Yeah. Welcome, 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:15.520 ladies and gentlemen to a fantastic, a spectacular, a devastating 0:01:15.600 --> 0:01:19.720 episode of My Mama Told Me the podcast where we 0:01:19.840 --> 0:01:23.840 did deep, deep into the pockets of black conspiracy theories 0:01:24.080 --> 0:01:27.760 and we worked to finally answer that question, What the 0:01:27.959 --> 0:01:33.080 funk happened to Forest Whittaker's eye? Please, someone tell me 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.720 what happened to the man's eye. It was at a 0:01:35.800 --> 0:01:39.040 pussying accident. I have no idea how did his eye 0:01:39.080 --> 0:01:42.839 get so terribly damaged. I once saw Forest Whittaker taking 0:01:42.840 --> 0:01:46.040 a dump in a Denny's restaurant. I was on Hollywood 0:01:46.040 --> 0:01:48.360 and Gower. I was hanging out with my friends and 0:01:48.440 --> 0:01:51.800 Forest Whittaker came in and politely asked where the restaroom was. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.560 And then one of my boys said, Hey, that's Forest Whittaker, 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:56.520 And then we all just watched him go take a 0:01:56.600 --> 0:01:58.680 dump for twenty minutes and then come back out and 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:01.800 drive away in a very nice part. But no answers 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.200 on the eye. But you know who might have answers 0:02:04.240 --> 0:02:06.040 on his eye and a whole lot of other answers. 0:02:06.120 --> 0:02:09.519 Is my guest today. She's fucking phenomenal, A dear friend, 0:02:09.720 --> 0:02:13.400 a hilarious comedian. You know her from Comedy Central, you 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:16.480 know her from Netflix. She has a brand new Netflix 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:20.200 special called three in the Morning that you motherfucker's better watch. 0:02:20.240 --> 0:02:22.280 It's one of my favorite special is one of my 0:02:22.360 --> 0:02:26.320 favorite comedians. Give it up, ladies and gentlemen for Sam Jay. 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:35.359 What's up? This is so weird but also fun with 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.200 cheering in the background. Is that yeah? And like you 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.320 introduced me, we were like really good friends yeah, that 0:02:41.480 --> 0:02:44.160 we like talk every day and then yeah, I have 0:02:44.240 --> 0:02:48.440 to do these formal introductions. There's no way to be 0:02:48.520 --> 0:02:50.920 like I talked to this nigga this morning. Give it 0:02:51.000 --> 0:02:58.320 up for sam Jay. We were texting about a puppet 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:01.440 who has an ownly fans account. Give it up for 0:03:01.440 --> 0:03:05.800 a stay of day. Wait, what are you drinking? What 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:08.440 is that? Y'all made me a drink with some te 0:03:08.480 --> 0:03:10.480 quilla and then she put a popsicle in it because 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:14.400 she's extra. Oh ship, that actually looks phenomenal, but it 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:18.960 tastes pretty tasty. That's beautiful. Honestly, it reminds me of 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:23.679 your conspiracy theory. It has sort of a very a crossover, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:26.720 if you will, of what your conspiracy theory was. And 0:03:26.760 --> 0:03:29.160 you came to me with one that, to me personally, 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:32.800 was a devastating revelation because I had not personally heard 0:03:32.880 --> 0:03:37.680 this one. But you said, my mama told me the 0:03:37.760 --> 0:03:45.760 KKK used to make mystic juices. Yes, tell me more. 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:48.480 I just remember, like I was a kid, you know, 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.600 growing up at Dorchester in Boston, and I remember one 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:53.960 day I was with like two three of my friends 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:55.920 and I went to get a mistic. I used to 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.200 always get the very joint. The very joint was my 0:03:58.280 --> 0:04:00.760 jam with a blue Yeah. So I grabbed the Ferry 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:02.720 Joy and this is like the old bottle that was 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.560 shaped like you know what I mean, It was like 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.440 it looked like a lava lamp. A shape was a 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:11.320 little funny. I feel like Mystic Juices really went for 0:04:11.440 --> 0:04:15.200 like an exotic look, like they wanted almost like a 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.360 sexual energy to their bottles. And juice used to be 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:21.240 a big deal. There was so many different juices and 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.760 like the bottling was major, and I remember they had 0:04:23.800 --> 0:04:25.800 like that gold rapper and it just felt like you 0:04:25.839 --> 0:04:27.960 were you were stepping up, you know what I mean, 0:04:28.120 --> 0:04:31.760 You're definitely stepping up in the juice game. And I 0:04:31.800 --> 0:04:34.280 grabbed it in my homie Gregory was like, don't drink that. 0:04:34.400 --> 0:04:40.320 It's made by the KKK, and I was like, he 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:43.400 was like, yeah, KKK makes Mystic and that's why it's 0:04:43.400 --> 0:04:45.760 always in the hood. And I was like, yeah, that 0:04:45.800 --> 0:04:48.800 makes sense to me. And I put it back and 0:04:48.839 --> 0:04:54.440 I got a clearly Canadian you just let all your 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:59.560 dreams to go. And I thought alternative, Oh man, you 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:02.000 know what worry about you saying that it's only or 0:05:02.200 --> 0:05:04.200 like that's why it's in the hood. Is I even 0:05:04.320 --> 0:05:08.680 introducing your topic to our producers, nick I had to 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.719 explain to him what mystic is. He's he had no idea. 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.760 It was like, what what is mystic? I was like, well, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:20.479 it's kind of like I guess it's like nigger Nantucket nectars. Yeah, yeah, 0:05:20.600 --> 0:05:24.200 that's exactly. I never thought about that, but that's a 0:05:24.279 --> 0:05:27.880 hundred percent what it is. It's like very hood specific. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:31.160 That grape, that red one, that grape whatever. That joint 0:05:31.279 --> 0:05:36.120 was good. I believe you're referring to Mystic grape strawberry. Yes, son, 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:40.320 that was good. I looked up all the flavors. They 0:05:40.320 --> 0:05:44.440 have Mystic grape strawberry drink. They have Mystic tropical haze. 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:48.080 That was that. And you know what else everyone said 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:51.040 was made by the KKK Crooked Eyes juice, Remember the 0:05:51.120 --> 0:05:54.560 saying eyes juice. Oh I don't know this. Oh you 0:05:54.560 --> 0:05:56.800 should look up crooked Eyes. They got little commercials too. 0:05:56.880 --> 0:05:59.440 It was some real fucked up ship. But they was say, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.080 not start up, making just a juice and it came 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:03.960 in a can and it looked like saying that, and 0:06:04.000 --> 0:06:06.120 it had the simple on it. But it was called 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.000 crooked Eyes and like kids used to buy it, and 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.720 it was like on that like candy cigarette ship, like 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:16.919 priming kids like, look, we know we can't sell you 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:21.880 this ship now, but when you're ready, we'll be here. Yeah. 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:23.720 And it was called Crooked Eyes and it was just juice. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:26.680 We used to buy it all the time ship and 0:06:26.680 --> 0:06:30.800 and so the theory was that the kkkk to get 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:34.440 people hooked on our liquor. Wow, And so what was 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:37.120 your boy's theory? So just that it was in the 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.359 hood was the only reason. That's all he needed. Yeah, 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:42.760 that's all he needed. It was enough to convince me. 0:06:42.800 --> 0:06:44.880 I was like, it is in the hood. He was like, 0:06:44.920 --> 0:06:46.600 you won't be seeing that in the white neighborhoods. I 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:50.719 was like, I don't, you don't And Mystic wasn't. It's 0:06:50.760 --> 0:06:53.200 not in the white neighborhoods. And the even crazier part 0:06:53.279 --> 0:06:55.599 is and I was I was saying this to someone 0:06:55.640 --> 0:06:59.760 earlier that like, Mystic was almost the first juice that 0:07:00.040 --> 0:07:02.719 didn't pretend to be juice, do you know what I mean? 0:07:02.800 --> 0:07:05.560 Like it just even in the title it says juice 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.000 drink because it's just like, nah, we are offering you 0:07:09.160 --> 0:07:14.720 vitamins and minerals. This just neon. It's neon sugar enjoying. 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:18.960 It's like it's tasty. Yeah, that does sound like fun 0:07:19.440 --> 0:07:23.320 like somebody ship when you think about it. And it's 0:07:23.360 --> 0:07:25.400 weird because I was just so twitter today and someone 0:07:25.480 --> 0:07:27.760 was like, who in the hell drinks the white mystic 0:07:27.920 --> 0:07:30.840 the you know, the colatta, And I was like, that's 0:07:30.880 --> 0:07:34.280 really I stayed away from that white one. That one 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:39.200 was just I don't know, it was just weird. And 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:42.080 people who drank the colada with weirdos Like I feel 0:07:42.120 --> 0:07:44.520 like anytime like someone went in and grabbed the colatta, 0:07:44.560 --> 0:07:47.240 we was all looking like, what are you doing? There's 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:53.800 my mom used to drink the white. Uh. It's like 0:07:53.840 --> 0:07:55.960 a whole person one like, but when you saw a 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:59.480 kid do it, it was very jarring. I think any 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.760 kid who reaches for peanut, colat of flavor anything is 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:07.560 like it's something. Why why are you so eager to 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:12.040 get to retirement with the Usually a Dominican don't like 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:15.120 all Dominican because they drink that coquito is like kids, 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:17.360 so they just got the like flavors in the mouth 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:20.160 for it. Right, this is this is gonna feel a 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.600 little like home. So I'll turn that black kids. We 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.560 ain't drinking peanut a lot of flavor and anything. I 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:28.560 think the closest I came to drinking peanut a lot 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.960 of flavor than anything was when uh seven eleven used 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:34.880 to make a peanut alot of slurpy. I would like 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.920 mix that in with a bunch of ship. But yeah, 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:40.200 more just to have all the flavors. It was a 0:08:40.200 --> 0:08:43.360 good base to just get get stuff cracking, like, oh, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.319 you throw a little coconut and this ship and now 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:48.480 I'm on a beach somewhere. Yeah, now it's tropical. Yeah, 0:08:48.880 --> 0:08:51.000 I like that. Your mom who's drinking the coladas? Though? 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:54.800 I like it was a mystic family. I like my family. Well, 0:08:54.920 --> 0:08:56.560 you know, we used to go to I don't know 0:08:56.559 --> 0:08:58.960 where you saw mystic the most, but for us, it 0:08:59.040 --> 0:09:03.559 was in like good Chinese food restaurants, like the Chinese 0:09:03.600 --> 0:09:07.320 food restaurants with the bulletproof glass and energy. That's where 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.640 we got our Chinese food from. I didn't know Chinese 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.400 people ate from regular restaurants. I got much older, but 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.440 you could order, like if you ordered enough shrimp fried rice, 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:22.760 they just throw a mystic. For sure. This ship is meaningless. 0:09:22.800 --> 0:09:26.319 It don't matter. It's cost one sense to make. Okay, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:31.400 so you believed you believe Gregory right away? How much 0:09:31.520 --> 0:09:36.880 do you believe in this conspiracy? Now, if I'm being honest, 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:40.960 I would say there's still like a good fife percent 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:45.120 of me. That's like it's possible, it's possible. It's possible 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.160 they could have been doing that, you know what I mean, Like, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.360 I don't, I don't know. Anytime I hate the KKK's 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:56.280 doing stuff, I'm like, baby, right, yeah, I think you know, 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.440 as a reasonable black person, you have no right to 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:03.120 deny the potential of the KKK, right, you know what 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.160 I mean. You can't be walking around like, no, the 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:07.440 KKK ain't doing nothing. You gotta be like, I don't know, 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.800 maybe they could be, maybe they could be on that that. Yeah, 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.720 I'm not gonna take the risk of supporting the KKK. 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:16.760 And I think the other thing was just like they 0:10:16.800 --> 0:10:19.120 just want to make money off black people, you know 0:10:19.200 --> 0:10:22.320 what I'm saying, Like it's a way to like exploit 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:25.320 our community and keep the poison its juice out of 0:10:25.360 --> 0:10:30.400 their community. Right, So, so this is double layered. Then 0:10:30.480 --> 0:10:34.319 this isn't just an active attempt at poisoning black people. 0:10:34.400 --> 0:10:36.600 This is also like we got to help fund our 0:10:36.600 --> 0:10:43.000 community and our KKKE stuff, our KKK stuff. All these 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.040 crosses were burning are expensive, at least that's what my 0:10:46.120 --> 0:10:48.280 mind did. I was like, so they're using the money 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.360 to fund the KKK. I can't be funding the KKK. 0:10:51.880 --> 0:10:55.640 So then I can't give this my money. I can't 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.280 buy Mystic juices in the moon And so did you 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.040 completely cut them off from that? I did. I stopped 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:04.080 drinking them for a while, and I would tell other people. 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.480 I'd be like, don't drink that, right, Wait, what was 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:12.760 the alternative to Mystic? Once I got cut off? I 0:11:12.800 --> 0:11:15.120 feel like after this got cut off, I was I 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:19.640 was drinking mad, clearly Canadian. Okay, really got sad after that, 0:11:20.240 --> 0:11:22.840 thinking a lot. I like, clearly Canadian. I think it 0:11:22.920 --> 0:11:26.640 was a good little fizzy, sugary thing that didn't make sense. 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.760 I don't know. I like the very one in the 0:11:28.800 --> 0:11:32.880 peach one Okay, not for me, but I'm not here, hey, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.520 I'm not here to yuck your young a juice person, though. 0:11:35.559 --> 0:11:37.720 I was like, I was really into the juice culture. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:42.200 I was like juice. I was really, I'm going to 0:11:42.320 --> 0:11:47.040 juice Con every year, bro, Like anytime the juice dropped 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.680 I was like a mom, we need to get this 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.120 juice to see what it is. I'm not gonna lie 0:11:52.160 --> 0:11:54.480 to you. They just mix Keywi into a new flavor, 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.400 and I gotta I gotta know what that's like. I 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:58.520 gotta know what that's about. I was big on Bocou 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.480 for a while. I was like, I only drank bocous. 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.360 You didn't say you're not a juice dude. Man, I'm 0:12:05.360 --> 0:12:07.680 not a juice dude. You gotta get too cool. It 0:12:07.720 --> 0:12:10.680 used to be a comic that did the commercials. I 0:12:10.760 --> 0:12:15.040 want to say, like Richard, it was a comic. They 0:12:15.120 --> 0:12:18.080 used to do the vocal commercials and they were like 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.120 a juice box, but it was a juice box for adults. 0:12:20.160 --> 0:12:22.480 So it was like this tall and it had a 0:12:22.520 --> 0:12:26.760 little like aluminum tab you with pool and I do 0:12:26.920 --> 0:12:29.920 feel like I remember this. They had like a pineapple 0:12:30.000 --> 0:12:34.040 joint that was crazy. It wasn't a straw, right, It 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:35.839 was just sort of you pull this tab and you 0:12:35.960 --> 0:12:39.960 drink it sort of yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, I don't 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:42.280 remember these. It was no boy who's in Curb your 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:47.000 enthusiast Richard Lewis, Yes, he would do the commercials. The 0:12:47.200 --> 0:12:53.000 older sicker John Stewart is he just looks like John 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:57.160 Stewart's like very old, sickly uncle. That's true. I would 0:12:57.280 --> 0:12:59.720 I would bring them sister school though, and like flex 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:01.720 on the kids because our kids had a little kittie joints. 0:13:01.720 --> 0:13:03.520 He had a little the minute to joint a little 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.959 mons choice and I'll come up with the boko like 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:10.560 I'm a beast, like y'all still drinking juicy juice. Yeah, 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.240 nig are what capri son, bro, I've always been this. 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:22.079 It's like this is always big. I'm trying to find 0:13:22.080 --> 0:13:24.520 a way to stunt on somebody. It's comforting to hear. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.760 I'm glad to know that this wasn't just like you 0:13:26.840 --> 0:13:29.560 getting older and flexing. You were just like, nah, I 0:13:29.559 --> 0:13:34.160 should flex from the day all day. Definitely what flex 0:13:34.280 --> 0:13:37.440 on kids with the snacks. So you text me, uh 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:40.760 this morning because the original conversation that we had was 0:13:40.800 --> 0:13:43.760 about mystic, but you said that you were looking it 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.920 up and that you also realized that this was true 0:13:47.000 --> 0:13:52.400 about Snapple, or at least this conspiracy theory existed about Snapple. Yeah, 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.199 I was thinking about it this morning, like what's it 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:57.760 really mystic or was it another juice? Because I felt 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.440 like Mystic was like a hood thing. I feel like 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.679 there was another juice that it became like a thing. 0:14:02.760 --> 0:14:04.800 And I was like, well, I really missed it. And 0:14:04.840 --> 0:14:06.440 then I was like, let me look it up before 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:08.120 I make my friend look stupid, because that's how what 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:12.320 I care about. You hadn't been another podcast, I wouldn't 0:14:12.400 --> 0:14:15.080 looked Ship up. I was like, I don't care, but 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:17.040 I was like, now, let me look it up because 0:14:17.040 --> 0:14:18.880 I want my friend looking stupid. And then I was like, 0:14:18.920 --> 0:14:22.800 oh no, it Snapple. Yeah, so I also was looking 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.720 it up. I do a ton of research for this 0:14:24.760 --> 0:14:28.120 podcast so that we can be correct in our wrongness, 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:31.840 if that makes sense. And I I discovered that Snapple 0:14:32.040 --> 0:14:35.440 shared similar rumors for Mystic, and I think part of 0:14:35.480 --> 0:14:38.440 that probably just came from the fact that like Mystic 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:43.480 was the hood Snapple right, Like Snapple wasn't available everywhere, 0:14:43.520 --> 0:14:46.080 but we had Mystic, And so I imagine a bunch 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.400 of like kids in the suburbs were probably also hearing 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.240 the exact same thing about Snapple while you know, other 0:14:53.320 --> 0:14:56.400 kids were hearing about Misstic. Yeah, like we needed our 0:14:56.680 --> 0:14:59.760 our conspiracy, so it was like they're doing it to 0:14:59.840 --> 0:15:08.280 our juice to right, we all oppressed in the game. 0:15:09.880 --> 0:15:14.240 I think I think Snapple, the Snapple of it feels 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.520 more true. I don't know if that makes sense, Like 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:24.040 it feels more plausible, but also more conspiratorial, if that 0:15:24.120 --> 0:15:28.880 makes sense. Because it was such a big company, Mystic 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:31.560 feels like a dude cooked it in his bathtub and 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:33.760 then put it in a bottle. So it's like, oh, 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:36.200 I totally believe that the KKK could have done that, 0:15:36.480 --> 0:15:38.400 But at the same time, I don't know how they 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:42.280 would have distributed or done all the other the steps 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:44.960 to really do the thing, to like and like target 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:48.200 the communities and like. Because it was also advertising, Like 0:15:48.800 --> 0:15:51.480 at some point when Mystic came out, you couldn't go 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.040 to a store, at least around my way. You couldn't 0:15:54.080 --> 0:15:56.560 go to like a Bodego, like a little like Caribbean 0:15:56.600 --> 0:16:00.120 corner store without a Mystic sign or Mystic something in 0:16:00.160 --> 0:16:04.440 the window. So they definitely had strong marketing. It was 0:16:04.480 --> 0:16:09.320 definitely about putting the money behind the marketing. They they 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.680 weren't just putting it in the store. They were doing 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:14.480 everything they could so that you knew what Mystic was 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.560 and they knew to pick the kool aid colors. They 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:25.680 knew the colors to attract us, like red, blue, purple, 0:16:25.720 --> 0:16:32.000 just a yellow that doesn't exist in the natural world. 0:16:33.760 --> 0:16:36.160 Put a little quabble in that thing. It was yellow 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:44.080 a little. I do always love the colors, the associations 0:16:44.120 --> 0:16:46.200 that they put with the colors, where it's like, oh, 0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.880 this is this is neon blue, so we gotta say 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:51.640 it's blueberry, and it's like, I don't know that you do. 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.520 Blueberries are very dark, sort of like heavy tone colors, 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:58.400 and this is fucking glowing, bro We don't even we 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.640 need to get into when I ate the fruits that 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:11.240 I've been drinking since that whole the story, when you 0:17:11.359 --> 0:17:13.960 actually try to guava for the first time, right, and 0:17:14.000 --> 0:17:17.400 I was like, it ain't that color. This don't taste 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:21.320 like guava at all, like guava at all. I remember 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:23.800 when I tasted a passion fruit for the first time. 0:17:23.840 --> 0:17:29.359 I was like, this is bullshit, all so much better. 0:17:30.560 --> 0:17:34.360 You're like, wait a minute. The difference between a banana 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:38.040 flavoring and a banana might be one of the greatest 0:17:38.080 --> 0:17:41.520 differences that can exist in all the world and time. 0:17:41.840 --> 0:17:44.480 I hate banana flavoring, I do too, but I like 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:48.359 bananas I think it's like one of those really, like 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.760 like it's like something genetic with a banana. Like, you know, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:53.560 we eat certain things and like if you have this 0:17:53.600 --> 0:17:56.040 type of the makeup, you taste this. I feel like 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:57.880 that's what it is with banana fair Like some people 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:00.320 taste it and it's just like Pugnan, it's just who's 0:18:00.400 --> 0:18:05.600 strong and crazy. Yeah, it's that cilantro ship. Yeah, some 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.840 people are just built to genetically taste bugs and soap 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:13.760 when they cilantro for you, banana flavoring makes you just 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:19.080 feel it's disgusted. I don't like anything. I don't either. 0:18:19.800 --> 0:18:23.280 My again, my mom makes weird choices. She wore dschiki 0:18:23.320 --> 0:18:28.679 and red banana drinks. She drinks a banana drinks. She 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.520 ain't the banana now, laters, you can look at those people, 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:34.800 you know, the banana people. Yeah, you look at your 0:18:34.840 --> 0:18:38.000 like that. I think so. I think it's hard when 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.920 it's your family and you know, you know, I love 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:45.399 my mom. She's a fantastic person. She's part of the 0:18:45.440 --> 0:18:49.120 inspiration behind this podcast. But she makes some weird choices, 0:18:49.240 --> 0:18:51.920 and uh, you gotta live with those choices sometimes. That's 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:56.080 I really always think about, Like I would have loved 0:18:56.080 --> 0:18:58.280 to just be a like a fly on the wall 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:04.320 in the life of like young man. I would you 0:19:04.359 --> 0:19:06.040 know what it was? It was. It was a kid 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:08.920 who had to because my parents divorced very early. So 0:19:08.960 --> 0:19:10.480 it was a kid who had to pack all his 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:13.400 clothes and his book bag with his homework every day 0:19:13.800 --> 0:19:17.119 because I was switching houses and ship So I was 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:19.760 just a kid with like loose underwear in his bag 0:19:20.280 --> 0:19:27.120 and hoping other kids didn't notice, just like the same 0:19:27.280 --> 0:19:31.160 loose underwear every Wednesday, sitting in my bag, hoping no 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:34.000 kid is going to make fun of me for like 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:38.080 a black neighborhood. So my mom always and then my 0:19:38.200 --> 0:19:41.360 dad was always in the suburbs, so I had I 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.280 grew up with this very sort of like weird and 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:46.800 it's part of how I know mystics so well, while 0:19:46.880 --> 0:19:51.840 simultaneously having been a very suburban kids like we were 0:19:51.880 --> 0:19:54.560 in the hood. But I spent most of my days 0:19:54.800 --> 0:19:57.320 playing around with a bunch of suburban kids, and then 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.480 you know, three times a week I would be back 0:19:59.520 --> 0:20:02.560 with my mom somewhere else. So I got a you know, 0:20:02.680 --> 0:20:06.440 a weird duality going right in my head, right, that 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.760 makes sense, That's interesting. In Dorchester. Were you exclusively in 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:12.760 the hood where you in one of those nicer parts 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.640 of Dorchester. Yeah, I was just I was in the hood, 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:19.800 but I went to Catholic school, So when I go 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:22.320 to school, I would just play only at that time 0:20:22.440 --> 0:20:25.560 to other blacks in school at three, it was a 0:20:25.680 --> 0:20:28.520 very small group of us and so like, and I 0:20:28.560 --> 0:20:31.240 didn't go to school in my neighborhood. All the other 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:33.520 kids went to the local public school. So I was 0:20:33.600 --> 0:20:36.560 kind of like ostracized in my neighborhood because I wasn't 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.840 in school with them all day making friends and all 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.600 my friends were like at my Catholic school, but I 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.840 didn't live anywhere near any of those people. So so 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.600 you're not getting to hang out and really build bonds 0:20:47.640 --> 0:20:50.120 with any with anybody, yeah, you know what I mean, 0:20:50.119 --> 0:20:52.840 and getting a little bit bullied everywhere, you know what 0:20:52.840 --> 0:20:56.879 I'm saying. It's a weird thing that like when you 0:20:56.960 --> 0:20:59.680 can't because school is such a formative part of the 0:20:59.720 --> 0:21:03.520 way you socialize and build community, and when you can't 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:06.960 do all of the parts of school or all of 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:10.000 the parts of building community, just become the weird kid 0:21:10.080 --> 0:21:13.200 that nobody knows that well, right, because I was bringing 0:21:13.200 --> 0:21:15.480 my Dorchester ship to the Catholic school and they're like, 0:21:15.600 --> 0:21:18.040 what's that? And then I'm coming home in my uniform 0:21:18.080 --> 0:21:20.040 and the kids are making fun of me, like look 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:22.840 at you gotta dress. You know what I'm saying. We 0:21:22.880 --> 0:21:26.280 get to get where whatever we want to spread all 0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.560 that kind of ship, and I'm like a playing to 0:21:28.600 --> 0:21:30.359 my mom and she's just like, you're gonna be better 0:21:30.440 --> 0:21:32.560 for it. And it's just like who gives a ship 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:37.560 right now? Nah? And none of it's useful anymore anywhere 0:21:37.680 --> 0:21:42.119 we're all inside brow, None of it matters. None of 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:44.920 the worm just stops. And it's like everything that you 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.840 thought it was important is not And you never needed 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:53.880 to know how to read. If there's any takeaway from 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:56.879 this episode, I hope it's that you never needed to 0:21:56.920 --> 0:22:00.280 know how to read a quote from So Maria John 0:22:00.200 --> 0:22:03.440 And here on the podcast, we're gonna take a break. 0:22:03.440 --> 0:22:05.639 We're gonna be back with more, SAMJ and more. My 0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:25.320 mama told me, hell you and we are back. Yeah, 0:22:25.680 --> 0:22:29.320 we're back here with Morris sam J. More. My mama 0:22:29.359 --> 0:22:32.640 told me she is still talking about these mystic juices, 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:37.320 these Snapple juices and the KKK that is supposedly behind 0:22:37.600 --> 0:22:41.000 all of it. It's terrifying. Did it scare you? I 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:43.840 think a little bit. I would, I feel like, honestly, 0:22:44.080 --> 0:22:46.920 and this is probably heavy with Honestly, what I felt 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:50.480 was just like you already feel so powerless in the 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:52.720 hood that it's just so easy to believe it, you 0:22:52.760 --> 0:22:54.680 know what I mean. It's just like just another thing 0:22:54.720 --> 0:23:00.520 they're doing to keep me for living, right, There's too 0:23:00.600 --> 0:23:04.359 much ship going on to be like overwhelmed with the fear. 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:06.640 So you're just like, all right, I'll tack this onto 0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:10.680 my vision board. I guess of stuff that is doing 0:23:10.760 --> 0:23:16.800 to stop being happy, just another whitey move, Like, all right, 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.680 I'll add it. I don't know what to do with it. Okay. 0:23:19.840 --> 0:23:22.119 So I did a bunch of research, and I'm really 0:23:22.160 --> 0:23:25.120