Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel So and you're listening to Climbing
Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and fun.
Speaker 1: We are doing a special early release episode this week
Speaker 1: to talk about all the fashion for Music's biggest night,
Speaker 1: the Grammys. From sleep and sexy to whimsical and over
Speaker 1: the top. We're breaking down all the looks. Here to
Speaker 1: help is my producer you all know in love, Mary Elizabeth.
Speaker 1: So let's jump right.
Speaker 2: In Music's biggest night, the Grammy. I think we should
Speaker 2: kick this off by being really honest.
Speaker 1: I think that scares me. I want my opinion.
Speaker 2: No, you're on a real honesty kick lately with the
Speaker 2: way we've been recording. But I will say the grammyst
Speaker 2: typically for you, is not your favorite carpet of the year.
Speaker 1: It's not. And you know, listen, I started my career
Speaker 1: in music right like I started me. I think it's PTSD.
Speaker 2: But you typically don't have the most You don't typically
Speaker 2: talk a lot about the Grammy's red carpet year over year. However,
Speaker 2: the pop girlies in the music industry have like taken
Speaker 2: over and it's such a moment for all the females.
Speaker 2: Yes that we would be remiss not to talk about
Speaker 2: just sheer girl power happening in the music biz. So
Speaker 2: to kick things off, I think we should talk about
Speaker 2: Queen Bee.
Speaker 1: Listen, I am a huge Beyonce fan. It's funny because
Speaker 1: my kids are always like, Mom, like besides Stevie Nicks,
Speaker 1: like like what do you love? Like what kind of
Speaker 1: female vocalists like it? Or like what kind of female singer?
Speaker 1: And I'm like Beyonce. And I remember it was like
Speaker 1: two years ago, maybe yeah, two ors ago. Kius goes mom,
Speaker 1: which one is Beyonce? Again, I almost like crash my car.
Speaker 1: You were like, how does he not well? I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't understand that. She's like in every part of
Speaker 1: my being her voice just really anyway, So this gave me,
Speaker 1: this look gave me I mean in full disclosure because
Speaker 1: we're talking honesty, right. I think the hair was a
Speaker 1: little blonde in my opinion here. But again, I think
Speaker 1: like these different rules apply with Beyonce, like things that
Speaker 1: I would maybe say like it's not like that's not
Speaker 1: what I would have done for a client or whatever,
Speaker 1: But then like she'll get on stage, I'll be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: it works.
Speaker 2: She's in Customscaparelli. It fits her body beautifully. Yes, the
Speaker 2: blonde hair is part of like the cowboy Carter era. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like she does blonde for the country album.
Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. Right now, she.
Speaker 2: Finally won the Album of the Year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I kind of It feels like it was
Speaker 1: a month ago that that whole thing happened. Where Yeah,
Speaker 1: she got very un It was the Grammys last year, yeah,
Speaker 1: which feels like a month ago. It does.
Speaker 2: Time is flying. He basically said, she's won the most
Speaker 2: Grammys of anyone ever and but has not one Album
Speaker 2: of the Year. So this year she took it home.
Speaker 2: It's amazing. I also want to point out, I don't
Speaker 2: know if anybody else really noticed this, but Beyonce did
Speaker 2: have a slight wardrobe malfunction in the gown.
Speaker 1: Said an aerola.
Speaker 2: So it's not an ariola, thank god, Okay, but it
Speaker 2: looked like the underwire in the dress poked in the
Speaker 2: center of her chest. But when she came back on
Speaker 2: stage to win.
Speaker 1: It was fixed.
Speaker 2: It was fixed. So there was definitely some sort of
Speaker 2: tailor in the back stitching that out.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 2: But every girl, every female knows that uncomfortable feeling of
Speaker 2: the underwire of your bra poking through stabbing you in
Speaker 2: the boob.
Speaker 1: And that is actually why I don't wear underwires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so shout out to Beyonce for getting stabbed in
Speaker 2: the boobs and still winning Grammys. She really can do
Speaker 2: it all.
Speaker 1: This woman has deserved to win Album of the Year
Speaker 1: at some point over the course of her, for sure career.
Speaker 2: So she won Best Country Album and Album of the Year.
Speaker 2: And I think you know you and I were talking briefly.
Speaker 2: It feels like that sort of Leonardo DiCaprio moment that.
Speaker 1: The girl needs to win this award.
Speaker 2: For sure, Like Best Actor finally came when he did
Speaker 2: the movie The Revenant. Was The Revenant the best one
Speaker 2: of his whole career. I don't know that's up for debate,
Speaker 2: but like, it definitely felt time that she was given
Speaker 2: the Best Album of the Year, because my god, she's
Speaker 2: been around and relevant for yep a long time.
Speaker 1: Now, Okay, can I just say for me there was
Speaker 1: a hands down winner of Best Dressed, Kelsey Ballerini and
Speaker 1: Kelsey Ballerini. I have to say I've had the good
Speaker 1: fortune of meeting her on many occasions. She is one
Speaker 1: of the loveliest, sweetest, kindest women out there in this business.
Speaker 1: And you know when you look at her, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: she looks like she would be nice. She is so
Speaker 1: sweet and so talented. I loved this look, I really did.
Speaker 1: I felt like it was so Grammy appropriate. It was.
Speaker 1: It did all the things that everyone wants to see
Speaker 1: on a red carpet at the Grammys, which is like
Speaker 1: a gorgeous like beaded, some skin showing, but she kept
Speaker 1: it polished and dare I say classy. I loved the
Speaker 1: hair was Chris Appleton did the hair christ and Tomorrow
Speaker 1: and Tomorrow Ralph, who I have to say also hands
Speaker 1: down one of my absolute favorite designers. I mean, I
Speaker 1: just recently watched the new couture uh Tomorrow Ralph shows,
Speaker 1: and honestly, each look is more extraordinary than the next.
Speaker 1: So I expect to see a lot at the Oscars,
Speaker 1: a lot at the Oscars. But I will say she
Speaker 1: is she is becoming more and more known for this
Speaker 1: like really big party on, you know, in the dress,
Speaker 1: and then like the gorgeous cape on, you know, on
Speaker 1: the outside, and I think you can take it on
Speaker 1: and off. But I felt this look was very youthful.
Speaker 1: It was elegant. I thought the hair and makeup were
Speaker 1: spot on. The jewelry styled by Rob and Muriel, who
Speaker 1: are friends and I love them, and I just I
Speaker 1: loved this on her, one of my favorite looks that
Speaker 1: she's worn. Yeah, I really did love it. And she
Speaker 1: looks so happy and she's with her cutie boyfriend.
Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. You can tell.
Speaker 2: I feel like you can tell when people are like
Speaker 2: happy within because she's like shining in a different way.
Speaker 1: And if any of you have teenagers or you're an
Speaker 1: adult that watches teenage shows, you may know her boyfriend,
Speaker 1: John B. Chase Stoakes, sorry Chase Stokes, but John character
Speaker 1: John B. Rutledge from Outer Banks.
Speaker 2: Yes, she looks stunning and this is the hair I'm
Speaker 2: always trying to convince you to do, and.
Speaker 1: I have done quite a bit. I just haven't done
Speaker 1: it in a beat. I know.
Speaker 2: Everyone helped me convince Rachel to do the side part again.
Speaker 2: Thank you so much, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: I need some more confidence.
Speaker 2: Another doll of pop music who literal doll literally Yes,
Speaker 2: her album one for Best Pop Album. She did a
Speaker 2: performance that was hilariously cute and funny. I just am
Speaker 2: obsessed with her. She doesn't take herself too seriously, she
Speaker 2: doesn't take anything too seriously.
Speaker 1: She is giving me that Goldie Han, like seventies Goldiehan thing,
Speaker 1: even even today Goldiehan thing where she just like gets
Speaker 1: up and she's so cute and she's the bangs.
Speaker 2: And the hen and funny, but very well spoken, very smart,
Speaker 2: obviously very talented. But I just love her approach to
Speaker 2: fashion and her music is very like fun and she
Speaker 2: was wearing a beautiful J. W. Anderson.
Speaker 1: I really I have to say, I really loved this look.
Speaker 1: I really did love this look. I probably would have
Speaker 1: liked the hair maybe like sleeker and up with this,
Speaker 1: you know, just kind of because the dress is so
Speaker 1: much and it's doing the feather thing at the peplum
Speaker 1: and the bass, and I loved it. And then of
Speaker 1: course she did my Can I take credit for that styling? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The show Pard Diamonds thrown behind her allah Jennifer Lawrence
Speaker 1: at the twenty thirteen Oscars or Kate Hudson at the
Speaker 1: I don't even know what year, Saga Awards in her
Speaker 1: Peter Dundas Pucci gown with I think it was a Cartier,
Speaker 1: Tiffany something or Fredley, and I literally can't remember. I
Speaker 1: have to look at it dangling down her back. I
Speaker 1: love a back jewel.
Speaker 2: It's so good, so good, and not enough people do it.
Speaker 2: I feel like, but my fish show Pard diamonds. They
Speaker 2: wove it through the dress to make the dress a
Speaker 2: Halter style. I think it was. I think the chain
Speaker 2: alone is like nineteen carrots. Forgot it, and then the
Speaker 2: diamond on the bottom is like fifty.
Speaker 1: Carres, like part of the acehl. It's crazy, it's hard
Speaker 1: of it. She's insane.
Speaker 2: But she just looked young and fresh and playful like
Speaker 2: she is. And then she changed into a Versace. It
Speaker 2: was like it was almost like a brownish gold.
Speaker 1: It looks Gianni VERSACEI it looks vintage, so good, so
Speaker 1: pretty on her when she won her award, so she
Speaker 1: looked very Can I say one thing that I've noticed
Speaker 1: a lot of these women are getting out of sprinter
Speaker 1: vans and I just want to like sort of feel
Speaker 1: a little bad for myself for a moment, if you
Speaker 1: don't mind. Because one of the biggest challenges of my
Speaker 1: career was spending hours and hours and days and days
Speaker 1: and fittings for these gowns, and then having to smush
Speaker 1: my clients into the backseat of like an suv that
Speaker 1: had literally half a foot of legroom. And I very
Speaker 1: clearly remember putting Jennifer Lawrence on the day of the
Speaker 1: Oscars in twenty thirteen in her driveway and me talking
Speaker 1: to the driver in advance and being like, if I
Speaker 1: put all the seats down and I put her in
Speaker 1: the back and she lay flat until she gets to
Speaker 1: the theater, because no, actually I would have. I would
Speaker 1: have absolutely flatbedded, like put them on a gurney on
Speaker 1: a helicopter and landed in at the show to avoid
Speaker 1: what happens for an hour long traffic car ride from
Speaker 1: you know, when they leave the house of the venue
Speaker 1: and it's so sad, and now they have on the
Speaker 1: carpet flu firs the people that plute trains. Have you
Speaker 1: watched these flu firs? We did not have flu firs.
Speaker 2: I feel like some people bring their own team.
Speaker 1: They do they do.
Speaker 2: Like I think Sabrina actually had a guide. I was
Speaker 2: helping her. He was picking up the bottom of the
Speaker 2: dress and moving her. But he had like a baby
Speaker 2: blue silk tie on to go with her dress. So
Speaker 2: I feel like that is I think it is a
Speaker 2: more prevalent thing, and it's not just people's publicist.
Speaker 1: Trying to no no, no, no no. I mean if
Speaker 1: I could have jumped in the car every time my
Speaker 1: client left, I would have done that. We were not allowed.
Speaker 1: And I'm here to say that whoever decided that there
Speaker 1: should be professional flu firs on the carpets fixing people's
Speaker 1: trains and dresses so they sit properly for photos, I
Speaker 1: applaud you. I wish you're around when I started, where
Speaker 1: have you been? And this idea was brilliant and considerate,
Speaker 1: and I'm almost wondering if it was like if it
Speaker 1: was like a band of stylists coming together to be
Speaker 1: like either let us on the carpet or have professionals
Speaker 1: there to flut trains. I mean, it is help us,
Speaker 1: help you get the great pictures, right, Yes, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: a team here. Yes, Okay, Moving on to another pop princess,
Speaker 1: My favor te Swift, Taylor Swift. Okay, see again, I
Speaker 1: love Taylor Swift. She has a thing like fiance like
Speaker 1: it may not be my all time, like she killed it. Listen,
Speaker 1: she looks great. She looks great. She is obviously in
Speaker 1: her I am, what's the word, pulling for the Chiefs
Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl, right, like I'm gonna wear
Speaker 1: red and I mean, listen. Her signature is always the lip, right,
Speaker 1: but like obviously the red and the red and the
Speaker 1: red and the red that's saying I love him. I
Speaker 1: did notice her Loreene Schwartz dangling red tea, which one
Speaker 1: may say is for Taylor Swift and one may say
Speaker 1: it's for Travis. Right.
Speaker 2: We will never know.
Speaker 1: We will never know, but I do she gritly wish
Speaker 1: she was in like a big moment, you know. But
Speaker 1: she's also I think feeling her like I just finished
Speaker 1: the longest torn music history. Yes, and I now just
Speaker 1: want to have like my legs out. I want to
Speaker 1: like walk a carpet and not do a show tonight.
Speaker 2: And you know, you know what, and look, hats off.
Speaker 2: She deserves it. If you watch the Grammys, you also
Speaker 2: saw Taylor had a great time. She was drinking champagne,
Speaker 2: she's in her saying around, she was having a great time.
Speaker 2: So I totally agreed.
Speaker 1: Didn't she win a bunch? She did not win nothing.
Speaker 2: She actually did not win anything.
Speaker 1: How many was she nominated for or I believe she.
Speaker 2: Was nominated for six Grammys.
Speaker 1: This year her, but didn't she win like eighty last year? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'd be get confused, like with it's the same with
Speaker 1: the actors, Like you know how you forget what year
Speaker 1: the movie was because if it was like if it
Speaker 1: was came out in January and then the Oscars were like,
Speaker 1: wait when was that? I feel like she's been on
Speaker 1: tour for more than half my life.
Speaker 2: I mean the aerostour was like two almost two years long.
Speaker 2: It's She's insane. I mean it's it's the highest grossing
Speaker 2: world tour any artist has ever done. So where your
Speaker 2: chief's red sparklely dress? Where your thigh necklace? Would you
Speaker 2: ever seen a thigh necklace in your life?
Speaker 1: I've seen everything, have you.
Speaker 2: Yes, I've seen like the belly chain, the I've just
Speaker 2: never seen a piece of jewelry worn this way. I
Speaker 2: was like, that's cool, different new I.
Speaker 1: Wore one at my butt Metza under my draws. You
Speaker 1: did it? Did my really hot?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Her mind is ready to be in New Orleans
Speaker 2: at that Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Want I want to do a few little pops of
Speaker 1: highlights and I want to take the bans like a
Speaker 1: little I want to I want to shag them a
Speaker 1: little bit, the banks, you know, blend. Yeah, like I'd
Speaker 1: like to have like a like a like a whose banks,
Speaker 1: like a Siana Miller bang like and when Sianna Miller
Speaker 1: had bangs, you know like that. Yeah, I get you,
Speaker 1: but but again it's her signature. So she's the queen. Okay.
Speaker 1: I loved Olivia Rodrigo.
Speaker 2: Yes, we had some some red carpet standouts that were
Speaker 2: in black sexy gowns.
Speaker 1: I believe, if I remember correctly, Olivia Rodrigo, that was
Speaker 1: a Gianni Versace dress. That was a vintage Gianni VERSACEI dress.
Speaker 1: And I mean, and you know that, you just know
Speaker 1: that by how it's cut and how it fits. And
Speaker 1: I am fortunate to say that I have worked with
Speaker 1: probably more vintage Versauce in my career than you know.
Speaker 1: And they are pieces of work like that may look
Speaker 1: like a simple cut out black dress to you, but
Speaker 1: I promise you the way that that gown is constructed,
Speaker 1: what's happening underneath, my guess is there's a body suit
Speaker 1: underneath so that it holds perfectly. And you know, she
Speaker 1: looked flawless. I loved the hair and makeup she did
Speaker 1: like a very like she did like a Cindy Crawford
Speaker 1: ninety supermodel vibe here like a supermodel. Right, I'm so
Speaker 1: into it. So I loved this like it was sexy
Speaker 1: and simple.
Speaker 2: I'm always shocked that there's not more versace on the
Speaker 2: carpet for the Grammys ever since j Loo's epic Versace plunging,
Speaker 2: that moment that happened in like the early two thousands.
Speaker 1: Well, there typically is. Honestly, there typically is a lot
Speaker 1: of versace on a Grammy carpet. Like I think the
Speaker 1: Grammys does speak, you know. And in the day there
Speaker 1: was a ton of Kavali, Right, there's a ton of Kovali,
Speaker 1: a ton of Versace, a ton of dult Chain Gavana.
Speaker 1: I think it's a couple of things. I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot of new designers out there that are taking
Speaker 1: over the red carpet in many ways, a lot of
Speaker 1: new coture designers, right. And I'll also say that like
Speaker 1: I think with the skin bearing era that we've been
Speaker 1: in for the last couple of years, you know, I
Speaker 1: think I think all bets off. But to your point,
Speaker 1: no one does that better than Barsaci, But I think
Speaker 1: I think Versace's going through a lot as a brand
Speaker 1: right now, with different ownerships and things like that. So
Speaker 1: I think there's probably less because I've seen it where
Speaker 1: there was ten people in Barsaci. But I also think
Speaker 1: that I know from my styling days, we used to
Speaker 1: try and weigh in on how many people wore one designer, right,
Speaker 1: So if I was putting someone in Valentino, or if
Speaker 1: someone was doing Chanel, you would ask the house to say, like,
Speaker 1: can we how many people are you writing?
Speaker 2: You don't want like a monopoly, right, because that's not cool.
Speaker 1: No, No, you don't want to be like a number.
Speaker 1: Oh she was also in Valandino.
Speaker 2: Yeah that gets a little I'm sure. Yeah, not great.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Miley Cyrus was also in black cut out leather.
Speaker 1: Yep, Smiley's also in her I'm here era.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's so. I'm so Miley Cyrus obsessed right now?
Speaker 2: Do you remember last year she was in Bob Mackie.
Speaker 2: She just looked amazing and killed it. I just think
Speaker 2: she she's just here for the long haul.
Speaker 1: Miley, by the way, I love her better than ever,
Speaker 1: Like literally.
Speaker 2: She's just cool and consistently like awesome, and she's working
Speaker 2: with Saint Laurent a lot, it seems, and I feel
Speaker 2: like it's just like a match made in heaven.
Speaker 1: I agree. I was into this look. I really liked it.
Speaker 1: I thought she looked sleek in cheek, yes, you know,
Speaker 1: and again like I think everyone wants to bear all
Speaker 1: at Grammys. It has always been that way, yes, borderline costume,
Speaker 1: you know, and it still does. And I think that
Speaker 1: it is a great form for self expression the Grammys,
Speaker 1: because I think there's just different rules that apply to
Speaker 1: the carpet at the Grammys. But I also there was
Speaker 1: this great piece of hardware on the back of her
Speaker 1: leather dress that I thought was super cheap. But she's
Speaker 1: just so cool. She gave me that like Zoe Kravitz
Speaker 1: vibe right, like, which is what San Luran is, you know,
Speaker 1: It's it's turned into a very They're like.
Speaker 2: The muses of Si lurn correct, I would say, yeah,
Speaker 2: speaking of nude, Siriano did like a sheer, structured dress
Speaker 2: for Chrissy Tagan. She looks obviously amazing.
Speaker 1: The funniest thing about Chrissy Tagan is that she is
Speaker 1: the funniest thing and so the thing is because I
Speaker 1: happened to know her personally when I look at her
Speaker 1: in a carpet, and I know what's going through her
Speaker 1: head right now as she stands there. And I think
Speaker 1: we all probably saw as she walked in, she was
Speaker 1: like tripping over the thing and she could barely walk,
Speaker 1: and then John was like carrying her, and then she
Speaker 1: tripped and almost fell. She's basically naked under there, by
Speaker 1: the way, I think very strategically placed boning and panels, yeah,
Speaker 1: and panels. And you know, she looks amazing.
Speaker 2: What do you think of the hair?
Speaker 1: I love her hair. I think I think that with
Speaker 1: this look, I would only say that she could do
Speaker 1: what she did or put it in like a sleek bun,
Speaker 1: you know, like a sleek just totally back. And she's
Speaker 1: gorgeous and you could tell she like, you know, she's
Speaker 1: so smiling, and you could just tell she's just I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, if you could be inside her mind, I
Speaker 1: can only imagine.
Speaker 2: Like hilarious, beautiful woman, you know what.
Speaker 1: I just have so much respect for anyone that just
Speaker 1: says it, yep, no matter what they say, I have
Speaker 1: respect for someone that just says it, just no filter. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: Gracie Abram. So I fell in love with Gracie Abram.
Speaker 1: She performed at this fashion dinner a couple summers ago.
Speaker 1: Had no idea who she was. Yeah, literally, she came
Speaker 1: on the stage. It was that, I want to say.
Speaker 1: It was at a Chanel dinner and I just remember
Speaker 1: saying to my friend, I'm obsessed with her. I love
Speaker 1: her voice. She is going to be so big. I
Speaker 1: had no idea who she was, and yeah she is.
Speaker 1: She looks like an angel, and I think that's her
Speaker 1: whole thing. I don't know that it's like Grammy look right,
Speaker 1: but I think she looks beautiful and chic and elegant
Speaker 1: and angel.
Speaker 2: Like Chanelle whimsyel Angel. She looks. She looks like herself too.
Speaker 2: Again she she her team, whoever it is. It's it's
Speaker 2: like looking at this photo, it's like you can hear
Speaker 2: her music almost like it's so synced into her persona.
Speaker 2: And how youthful and beautiful and cool, effortlessly cool she
Speaker 2: is is. Yeah, I love her. I think she's She's
Speaker 2: another badass female that I think could be around for
Speaker 2: a long Oh.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see Gracie Abrom forever yeah, I
Speaker 1: love her voice, like, I love how she speaks. I
Speaker 1: love what she says, I love what she does. Kasey
Speaker 1: musk Graves. Musk Graves, Why don't feel like I'm saying
Speaker 1: it wrong myself.
Speaker 2: Kasey Musgraves, That's right, Yeah, I love I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: we love Casey. She's she's a glamour country girl, like
Speaker 2: you know, she idolizes Dolly Parton. She idolizes that like
Speaker 2: country glamour thing. And this, this look for her is
Speaker 2: really like more pared down. It's a more simplified version
Speaker 2: of some of the stuff we typically see her. Again,
Speaker 2: I think that she herself, her team, whoever's working with this.
Speaker 2: The album that she's nominated for, Deeper Well, is more
Speaker 2: pared down, more folky, more, which makes sense, which plays
Speaker 2: into this more simplistic look for her. But I mean,
Speaker 2: she's wearing Ralph lauren gorgeous a skirt. You love this collection.
Speaker 1: I did love this collection. I love Ralph Laurence. I
Speaker 1: only think I think Ralf Lauren's collections have gotten even
Speaker 1: better with age and time.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, I totally agree. And she just looked
Speaker 2: like Casey like threw on a tank top, threw on
Speaker 2: a beaded, beautiful sequence skirt.
Speaker 1: And I can tell you the belt on babe, that
Speaker 1: skirt probably weighs two hundred pounds. Oh I'm sure. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you I have held those. You need like six
Speaker 1: hangers to hold those skirts. It's crazy, It's crazy. It
Speaker 1: gives me anxiety thinking about hanging that. I think she
Speaker 1: looks great. I mean, I think the only thing to
Speaker 1: take into consideration with that is like you know, when
Speaker 1: you're styling someone for the red car, But you also remember,
Speaker 1: as they do interviews, the only thing anybody seeing is
Speaker 1: like the bust up, you know what I mean, right,
Speaker 1: So it's sort of like, all of a sudden, you're
Speaker 1: just in this white tank top. So I think sometimes
Speaker 1: for something like this, if I was styling this look,
Speaker 1: I would have definitely put like a major moment of
Speaker 1: jewelry on so that she didn't look as bear right,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: In that interview shot. Yeah, and she was wearing Charlotte
Speaker 2: Tilbury makeup, which obviously she just looks like a bronzed
Speaker 2: goddess yep, which is their signature signature vibe. But yeah,
Speaker 2: she looked beautiful, very very casey from Deeper Well album.
Speaker 2: In my opinion. Okay, moving right along to our most
Speaker 2: costumed ladies of the evening.
Speaker 1: I listen. I loved Charlie XX. I actually loved that
Speaker 1: it was Gautier, and I actually loved that because I
Speaker 1: don't know, it felt like her, like it felt cool,
Speaker 1: it felt cool. I actually love the dress like it.
Speaker 1: It is very cature of the moment, It is very
Speaker 1: you know, it worked for her like it really did
Speaker 1: in the boots with her hair. I really loved this.
Speaker 1: I think some people didn't, but I did.
Speaker 2: Like Charlie XX is like you know, brat. Her album
Speaker 2: was like the movement of this It's.
Speaker 1: Literally all anyone talked about this summer.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And like she is that vibe of like a
Speaker 2: rave princess And if I had to draw a dress
Speaker 2: for somebody that's like rave electronic dance music princess, like
Speaker 2: this to me is like spot on for her. Thousand
Speaker 2: and then amazing chapel Erone, who won Best New Artist
Speaker 2: again vintage Jean Paul Gutier, obviously in a themed costume moment,
Speaker 2: leaning into the impressionist art that's on the gown, and
Speaker 2: she won and she was I mean, she's just such
Speaker 2: a cool, interesting smart artist. That again, both of these women,
Speaker 2: Charlie and Chapelone have been in the music is industry
Speaker 2: for a long time, and it's like so awesome that
Speaker 2: they're getting their flowers now and there and they're just themselves. Like,
Speaker 2: you know, Chapel Roone is just unapologetically Chapel.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think she great. I also listen, any
Speaker 1: any woman who holds their own and speaks their mind
Speaker 1: and wears whatever, is not afraid of anything, and doesn't
Speaker 1: give f all what, you know, what anybody thinks. You know,
Speaker 1: I think holds a very special place for me and
Speaker 1: can do no wrong. And obviously this is taking it
Speaker 1: to a whole nother place, but you know, god speed.
Speaker 2: Like chap boys, like it's like the Met Gala, every
Speaker 2: every carpet the Met Gala for her, Like she picks
Speaker 2: her own theme. Yes, she decides the character she wants
Speaker 2: to become, and she like goes for it.
Speaker 1: Listen, we have very few and far between of those
Speaker 1: moments anymore, so bless you know, I'm here for it.
Speaker 1: I also want to say on Charlie XCX, like I
Speaker 1: remember when I saw her perform at the either the
Speaker 1: Cat No, it was the Locke mcgala this year, and
Speaker 1: I remember everyone was like freaking out that she was
Speaker 1: going to perform. Everyone and these were all like adults.
Speaker 1: These were not like kids, you know, and like industry
Speaker 1: people that are jaded one hundred percent. And people were
Speaker 1: like freaking out, and I was like, what is this about?
Speaker 1: I'm so unimpressed, And then I got sucked in. I
Speaker 1: couldn't stop watching her. She was amazing. She was so
Speaker 1: much fun to watch, for sure. Yeah, and I was
Speaker 1: wearing something so cumbersome to wear that I was like
Speaker 1: dying to get home and get out of it. And
Speaker 1: then I just stayed like another hour to watch her
Speaker 1: because I was like, she's so good, She's so great.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think these two again gonna be around
Speaker 2: for a while. Which brings me to one of my
Speaker 2: favorite pop Princess Lady Gaga. You actually posted so she
Speaker 2: performed with Bruno Mars. She was nominated with Bruno performance
Speaker 2: California Dreaming.
Speaker 1: Okay, can I just say yeah, that gave me. It
Speaker 1: was like a hug that was a hug, that was
Speaker 1: a hug. And I think.
Speaker 2: The Gamys did a very beautiful job of I agree.
Speaker 2: Of they were raising money during the show, they highlighted
Speaker 2: the LA Firefighters, which was really nice.
Speaker 1: I literally watched it four times. It was so good.
Speaker 1: I'm also such a mama's and the papa's like Stan.
Speaker 1: I just the whole thing is so good, and that
Speaker 1: was amazing. I also loved how she went into that
Speaker 1: like bohemian role right away in her outfit to perform
Speaker 1: in was so good. She's Gaga is so good. It's
Speaker 1: terrifying sometimes how talented she is.
Speaker 2: It feels like Chapel Roone. I mean, it feels like
Speaker 2: these women who can recreate themselves and become what their
Speaker 2: music is trying to personify, Yes, and they do it.
Speaker 2: So Gaga was back to her like goth Gaga self,
Speaker 2: which I'm here for. I mean, Gaga used to be
Speaker 2: bar none, the most out there in dress. I mean
Speaker 2: she was, I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: Can I say something about that in full disclosure? Yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, that took away a little bit, like I'm
Speaker 1: actually the biggest Gaga fan when she's just herself. And
Speaker 1: I know I'm that way about a lot of people.
Speaker 1: And I understand that music is such a freedom of
Speaker 1: expression and dressing yourself in that persona that you want
Speaker 1: to be in that moment. I have so much respect
Speaker 1: for that. But sometimes these women, in my opinion, get
Speaker 1: so buried under the makeup and the stuff that I
Speaker 1: love that you lose their like you're like, wait, who
Speaker 1: you just want to like get under what it is.
Speaker 1: And I think for me, I'm always such a die
Speaker 1: hard fan of Gaga in her natural state or in
Speaker 1: her like movie star state. I just love that because
Speaker 1: she her voice is like it transcends you like it
Speaker 1: actually does. And I remember when she first came out
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, go go Gaga, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's just trying to be like Madonna, like because I
Speaker 1: was so Madonna right, And then I was like, she
Speaker 1: won you over.
Speaker 2: Shit.
Speaker 1: She's so talented.
Speaker 2: And when she performed I think it was the Grammys
Speaker 2: with Elton John, I mean that was just like insane, like, oh.
Speaker 1: Mine, incredible.
Speaker 2: But she's back to like goth princess and Vivian Westwood.
Speaker 2: She's in an archival Tiffany necklace.
Speaker 1: Listen, if you're gonna do this look, you do it
Speaker 1: with Vivian Westwood and archival Tiffany. She did it one
Speaker 1: hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Correctly and to your point earlier Gaga has a new
Speaker 2: album coming out, so I feel like this is her
Speaker 2: next chapter, this is the next era of the Gaga,
Speaker 2: and she's like giving us the taste like sort of
Speaker 2: like goth princess vibe. But this Tiffany necklace stunning is insane.
Speaker 2: So it's from the archives, it's never been seen before.
Speaker 2: Thirty public gold Pearls, black Onyx and that like giant Tourmaline.
Speaker 1: Tourmaline is so cool insane. It literally looks like its insane.
Speaker 2: It literally looks like she like casts a spell on
Speaker 2: somebody and you have to like rub the rub the
Speaker 2: tourmaline to like break the spell. It's very whimsical, it's
Speaker 2: very Gaga.
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm over her performance with Bradley Cooper.
Speaker 2: Yeah she okay. So she did fire Aid, which recently
Speaker 2: happened in Los Angeles. Lady Gaga was there and she
Speaker 2: thanks shallow by herself and it was just like everyone
Speaker 2: was like on the feat next level.
Speaker 1: She's just incredible and yeah her imagine if you could
Speaker 1: sing like that.
Speaker 2: I would never stop. I would be the most annoying
Speaker 2: human being on the face.
Speaker 1: Of the earth because I'd be much if you open
Speaker 1: your mouth and that came out.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna sing for you again.
Speaker 1: Yeah that that won't happen to me.
Speaker 2: It would be I'd be so annoying. I wanted to
Speaker 2: shout out two ladies that I thought would be honorable
Speaker 2: mentions for you. Yep, and that is miss Cardi B.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 2: Cardi B was in Roberto Cavali.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks like archival Roberto Cavali. Unless it's a remake.
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's new.
Speaker 1: And so it might be custom based on an arm
Speaker 1: fire because I remember this dress and iteration of this,
Speaker 1: especially with the bottom, the way it.
Speaker 2: Is, the feathers, the sequence, all the thanks, all of
Speaker 2: the things.
Speaker 1: She looks great.
Speaker 2: I love lam.
Speaker 1: Yep, she looks great. I love her hair. I love this.
Speaker 1: But you see how beautiful she is.
Speaker 2: She's gorgeous. Yeah, she's a gorgeous girl. Now, I just
Speaker 2: feel like Cardi is just such a standout as a personality,
Speaker 2: like she's so fun and playful and whatever. I just
Speaker 2: feel like she really brought it and looked very timeless, elegant,
Speaker 2: poised Grammys. She looks great. The glam's great.
Speaker 1: I think she looks amazing. Honestly one of my favorite
Speaker 1: looks she's ever done. For sure, she looks great, a
Speaker 1: great Cheryl grow Should we talk about that?
Speaker 2: So the show opened with a bunch of artists that
Speaker 2: we're playing Randy Newman's I Love La and I'm the
Speaker 2: camera's moving around and I'm sort of noticing people and
Speaker 2: I'm like, who is that woman playing the bass? I'm like,
Speaker 2: who is that? She has blonde, shorter hair. I'm like,
Speaker 2: why can't I figure out who it is? So finally
Speaker 2: the camera moves back around and it's Sheryl Crow and
Speaker 2: she looks gorgeous than ever. I mean, she's been in
Speaker 2: the music business for so long now she just looks
Speaker 2: thirty five.
Speaker 1: I mean impossible that she's sixty two.
Speaker 2: Like it's not. I don't know how, but she's just
Speaker 2: stunning to me. I think that she really really brought it.
Speaker 1: Like It's funny though, because the cool thing about Cheryl
Speaker 1: Crow is that and I worked with her. I used
Speaker 1: to work with her, I used to style her. I
Speaker 1: have to say that she honestly like the thing about
Speaker 1: her is that she looks like she just kind of
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna just throw on this Massoni from
Speaker 1: my closet, pull a little makeup on, and go to
Speaker 1: the ground. She has the Hudson cam Yes, the effortless
Speaker 1: like California girl vibe. You know, I have no idea
Speaker 1: where she's from, but I know that she looks incredible.
Speaker 1: She honestly looks incredible. And I love Cheryl Crow's voice.
Speaker 2: The best, like love the best. I just thought she
Speaker 2: looked so gorgeous. Okay, Well, we've talked a lot about
Speaker 2: some of our favorite looks, but I think we have
Speaker 2: to talk about something that was a repeated trend.
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me to like it.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ask you to like it. Okay, But
Speaker 2: there's a hair trend going around and I guess it's
Speaker 2: called the step cut. I you can't. I don't love it. Okay,
Speaker 2: we've seen it before. Share sort of famously did the
Speaker 2: step cut, which was Bangs, and it's sort of it's
Speaker 2: sort of like a non blended front piece. It's steps
Speaker 2: and keeping, but one step. It's not like a layer down.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like.
Speaker 1: A one step. It's an unblended, grown out bang oh
Speaker 1: ish kind of.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Billie Eilish, we saw Billie Eilish at fire
Speaker 2: aid her hair. Who isn't it?
Speaker 1: She's just My mother's fully obsessed with Billy. She listens
Speaker 1: to her all day. My mother's eighty.
Speaker 2: Three and Billy and her brother Finny has performed first
Speaker 2: at the Grammy's last night, and they're just like that,
Speaker 2: like blood harm anything when like siblings sing and like
Speaker 2: that beach boys thing that like it's so ethereal and awesome.
Speaker 2: She's a billy.
Speaker 1: Can I say something? Yeah, I want a campaign to
Speaker 1: say that everyone who airs an award show like a
Speaker 1: big one, right, like a Globes Oscars, Grammys, Emmy's. I
Speaker 1: think it would be fair if you ran it once
Speaker 1: at the normal time, like six o'clock or whatever that is. Uh,
Speaker 1: and then for all the parents that couldn't watch it
Speaker 1: because it's during dinner and bed and homework time, then
Speaker 1: they do another airing for the parents.
Speaker 2: Yes, I got to teach you how to record on your.
Speaker 1: Or in modern day society, you can just watch it.
Speaker 2: You get better record it. No, I get what you mean. Now,
Speaker 2: I get you.
Speaker 1: You know what I It's not fair because I want
Speaker 1: to watch it live and I can't.
Speaker 2: And the greatest part about the Grammys is it is
Speaker 2: like one concert almost. Of course they're giving out awards
Speaker 2: in between. Tre Trevor Noah was the host, and he's great, right,
Speaker 2: he does his monologue, he does some crowd work, but
Speaker 2: it is like a big concert.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 2: It's a concert, and so I wish that there was
Speaker 2: like a version of them just cutting together all the
Speaker 2: musical acts and putting that somewhere.
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think that would be super
Speaker 1: helpful for all of us.
Speaker 2: It would be very helpful. Yeah, but yeah, I feel like.
Speaker 1: This I'm asking for a friend.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the step hair cuts here, Gagah, Miley and Billy.
Speaker 1: Like I said, I think in the world of entertainment,
Speaker 1: I think that this Look, there's this big controversy about
Speaker 1: all things, okay, because at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: I think I firmly believe that the days of cutting
Speaker 1: anyone down and insulting anyone's hair, makeup, clothing, body types, anything,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'm all for not doing any of
Speaker 1: that because I do believe there is no winning and
Speaker 1: there is no purpose. Sure, we all in front of ourselves,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, I think, like I'm I'm
Speaker 1: comfortable to say that this is not for me. The
Speaker 1: step cut. I would not ever wear it myself. I'd
Speaker 1: prefer that my children don't choose to do it. However,
Speaker 1: you know, this is what they're feeling. And I think,
Speaker 1: especially in the world of music, they are constantly birthing
Speaker 1: new identities, and I think this is one of them,
Speaker 1: you know, and I I just it's to me, it's
Speaker 1: pretty aggressive. It's just harsh, and I just like, to
Speaker 1: it's weird. I weirdly, just like a natural beauty. And
Speaker 1: I like sometimes when people who are constantly on stage
Speaker 1: and constantly in costumes and constantly like changing their makeup
Speaker 1: and shaving their eyebrows and stuff, sometimes I just am like, wow,
Speaker 1: they're so beautiful. Like, you know, I remember the first
Speaker 1: time I saw Gwen Stefani without red lips, and I
Speaker 1: almost died. I was like, she is stunning. Not that
Speaker 1: she's not always stunning, but it was like amazing. Same
Speaker 1: with Kim Kardashian. Like I think sometimes when we're so
Speaker 1: used to seeing people with so much, sometimes that paired
Speaker 1: down is like so beautiful and equally is shocking. Like
Speaker 1: if Gaga came in with like nothing, yeah except a
Speaker 1: soft blow dry.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: Gaga came in as like with a nineties like soft
Speaker 1: blow dry and like a like a Chloe dress or
Speaker 1: something like that, Like that.
Speaker 2: Would be really shocking.
Speaker 1: That is shocking, as like the goth step cut that
Speaker 1: we are the whole thing.
Speaker 2: From the Grammy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you think we're going to see the step cut
Speaker 2: at Fashion Week?
Speaker 1: Yes? I do. I think we'll probably see it on
Speaker 1: some models because it is a little.
Speaker 2: It's like it's like edgy, punky. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 2: we're going to see some model.
Speaker 1: Yep. Grammy Is twenty twenty five has concluded, Thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining us for our quick Grammy Fashion recap.
Speaker 1: Award season is in full swing, so we're excited to
Speaker 1: do more of these red carpet recaps for all of you.
Speaker 1: I also want to point out that I think, you know,
Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot. It was very hard, I think,
Speaker 1: for people to figure out what to do this award
Speaker 1: season because it feels so wrong to do anything that's celebratory.
Speaker 1: But I think the way that the Grammys really paid
Speaker 1: tribute and raised funds for the wildfires felt so good.
Speaker 1: It made me think that it should always be that way,
Speaker 1: you know, for different because there's always another charity element.
Speaker 1: There's just always something disastrous that happens in this country.
Speaker 1: You're not wrong that I think we should do that
Speaker 1: more often. Thank you so much for listening, Everyone to
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