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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, I'm Rachel So and you're listening to Climbing

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Speaker 1: in Heels for your weekly dose of glamour, inspiration and fun.

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Speaker 1: We are doing a special early release episode this week

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Speaker 1: to talk about all the fashion for Music's biggest night,

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Speaker 1: the Grammys. From sleep and sexy to whimsical and over

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Speaker 1: the top. We're breaking down all the looks. Here to

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Speaker 1: help is my producer you all know in love, Mary Elizabeth.

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Speaker 1: So let's jump right.

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Speaker 2: In Music's biggest night, the Grammy. I think we should

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Speaker 2: kick this off by being really honest.

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Speaker 1: I think that scares me. I want my opinion.

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Speaker 2: No, you're on a real honesty kick lately with the

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Speaker 2: way we've been recording. But I will say the grammyst

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Speaker 2: typically for you, is not your favorite carpet of the year.

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Speaker 1: It's not. And you know, listen, I started my career

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Speaker 1: in music right like I started me. I think it's PTSD.

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Speaker 2: But you typically don't have the most You don't typically

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Speaker 2: talk a lot about the Grammy's red carpet year over year. However,

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Speaker 2: the pop girlies in the music industry have like taken

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Speaker 2: over and it's such a moment for all the females.

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Speaker 2: Yes that we would be remiss not to talk about

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Speaker 2: just sheer girl power happening in the music biz. So

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Speaker 2: to kick things off, I think we should talk about

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Speaker 2: Queen Bee.

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Speaker 1: Listen, I am a huge Beyonce fan. It's funny because

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Speaker 1: my kids are always like, Mom, like besides Stevie Nicks,

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Speaker 1: like like what do you love? Like what kind of

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Speaker 1: female vocalists like it? Or like what kind of female singer?

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Speaker 1: And I'm like Beyonce. And I remember it was like

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Speaker 1: two years ago, maybe yeah, two ors ago. Kius goes mom,

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Speaker 1: which one is Beyonce? Again, I almost like crash my car.

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Speaker 1: You were like, how does he not well? I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand that. She's like in every part of

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Speaker 1: my being her voice just really anyway, So this gave me,

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Speaker 1: this look gave me I mean in full disclosure because

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Speaker 1: we're talking honesty, right. I think the hair was a

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Speaker 1: little blonde in my opinion here. But again, I think

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Speaker 1: like these different rules apply with Beyonce, like things that

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Speaker 1: I would maybe say like it's not like that's not

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Speaker 1: what I would have done for a client or whatever,

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Speaker 1: But then like she'll get on stage, I'll be like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it works.

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Speaker 2: She's in Customscaparelli. It fits her body beautifully. Yes, the

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Speaker 2: blonde hair is part of like the cowboy Carter era. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: like she does blonde for the country album.

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Speaker 1: That's the whole thing. Right now, she.

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Speaker 2: Finally won the Album of the Year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well I kind of It feels like it was

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Speaker 1: a month ago that that whole thing happened. Where Yeah,

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Speaker 1: she got very un It was the Grammys last year, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which feels like a month ago. It does.

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Speaker 2: Time is flying. He basically said, she's won the most

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Speaker 2: Grammys of anyone ever and but has not one Album

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Speaker 2: of the Year. So this year she took it home.

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Speaker 2: It's amazing. I also want to point out, I don't

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Speaker 2: know if anybody else really noticed this, but Beyonce did

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Speaker 2: have a slight wardrobe malfunction in the gown.

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Speaker 1: Said an aerola.

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Speaker 2: So it's not an ariola, thank god, Okay, but it

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Speaker 2: looked like the underwire in the dress poked in the

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Speaker 2: center of her chest. But when she came back on

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Speaker 2: stage to win.

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Speaker 1: It was fixed.

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Speaker 2: It was fixed. So there was definitely some sort of

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 2: But every girl, every female knows that uncomfortable feeling of

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Speaker 2: the underwire of your bra poking through stabbing you in

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Speaker 1: And that is actually why I don't wear underwires.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so shout out to Beyonce for getting stabbed in

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Speaker 2: the boobs and still winning Grammys. She really can do

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Speaker 2: it all.

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Speaker 1: This woman has deserved to win Album of the Year

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Speaker 1: at some point over the course of her, for sure career.

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Speaker 2: So she won Best Country Album and Album of the Year.

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Speaker 2: And I think you know you and I were talking briefly.

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Speaker 2: It feels like that sort of Leonardo DiCaprio moment that.

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Speaker 1: The girl needs to win this award.

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Speaker 2: For sure, Like Best Actor finally came when he did

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Speaker 2: the movie The Revenant. Was The Revenant the best one

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Speaker 2: but like, it definitely felt time that she was given

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Speaker 1: Now, Okay, can I just say for me there was

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Speaker 1: a hands down winner of Best Dressed, Kelsey Ballerini and

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Speaker 1: fortune of meeting her on many occasions. She is one

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Speaker 1: of the loveliest, sweetest, kindest women out there in this business.

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Speaker 1: And you know when you look at her, you're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: sweet and so talented. I loved this look, I really did.

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Speaker 1: I felt like it was so Grammy appropriate. It was.

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Speaker 1: It did all the things that everyone wants to see

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Speaker 1: on a red carpet at the Grammys, which is like

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Speaker 1: a gorgeous like beaded, some skin showing, but she kept

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Speaker 1: hair was Chris Appleton did the hair christ and Tomorrow

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Speaker 1: and Tomorrow Ralph, who I have to say also hands

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Speaker 1: down one of my absolute favorite designers. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: and honestly, each look is more extraordinary than the next.

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Speaker 1: So I expect to see a lot at the Oscars,

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Speaker 1: a lot at the Oscars. But I will say she

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Speaker 1: is she is becoming more and more known for this

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Speaker 1: like really big party on, you know, in the dress,

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Speaker 1: and then like the gorgeous cape on, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the outside, and I think you can take it on

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Speaker 1: and off. But I felt this look was very youthful.

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Speaker 1: It was elegant. I thought the hair and makeup were

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Speaker 1: spot on. The jewelry styled by Rob and Muriel, who

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Speaker 1: are friends and I love them, and I just I

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Speaker 1: loved this on her, one of my favorite looks that

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Speaker 1: she's worn. Yeah, I really did love it. And she

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Speaker 1: looks so happy and she's with her cutie boyfriend.

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Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. You can tell.

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Speaker 2: I feel like you can tell when people are like

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Speaker 2: happy within because she's like shining in a different way.

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Speaker 1: And if any of you have teenagers or you're an

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Speaker 1: adult that watches teenage shows, you may know her boyfriend,

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Speaker 1: John B. Chase Stoakes, sorry Chase Stokes, but John character

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Speaker 2: Yes, she looks stunning and this is the hair I'm

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Speaker 2: always trying to convince you to do, and.

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Speaker 1: I have done quite a bit. I just haven't done

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Speaker 1: it in a beat. I know.

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Speaker 2: Everyone helped me convince Rachel to do the side part again.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I need some more confidence.

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Speaker 2: Another doll of pop music who literal doll literally Yes,

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Speaker 2: her album one for Best Pop Album. She did a

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Speaker 2: performance that was hilariously cute and funny. I just am

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Speaker 2: obsessed with her. She doesn't take herself too seriously, she

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Speaker 2: doesn't take anything too seriously.

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Speaker 1: She is giving me that Goldie Han, like seventies Goldiehan thing,

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Speaker 1: even even today Goldiehan thing where she just like gets

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Speaker 2: And the hen and funny, but very well spoken, very smart,

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Speaker 2: obviously very talented. But I just love her approach to

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Speaker 2: fashion and her music is very like fun and she

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Speaker 2: was wearing a beautiful J. W. Anderson.

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Speaker 1: I really I have to say, I really loved this look.

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Speaker 1: I really did love this look. I probably would have

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Speaker 1: liked the hair maybe like sleeker and up with this,

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Speaker 1: you know, just kind of because the dress is so

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Speaker 1: course she did my Can I take credit for that styling? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The show Pard Diamonds thrown behind her allah Jennifer Lawrence

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what year, Saga Awards in her

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Speaker 1: Peter Dundas Pucci gown with I think it was a Cartier,

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Speaker 1: have to look at it dangling down her back. I

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Speaker 2: It's so good, so good, and not enough people do it.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, but my fish show Pard diamonds. They

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Speaker 2: wove it through the dress to make the dress a

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Speaker 2: Halter style. I think it was. I think the chain

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Speaker 2: alone is like nineteen carrots. Forgot it, and then the

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Speaker 1: Carres, like part of the acehl. It's crazy, it's hard

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Speaker 2: But she just looked young and fresh and playful like

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Speaker 2: she is. And then she changed into a Versace. It

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Speaker 2: was like it was almost like a brownish gold.

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Speaker 1: It looks Gianni VERSACEI it looks vintage, so good, so

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Speaker 1: pretty on her when she won her award, so she

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Speaker 1: looked very Can I say one thing that I've noticed

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Speaker 1: vans and I just want to like sort of feel

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Speaker 1: a little bad for myself for a moment, if you

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Speaker 1: don't mind. Because one of the biggest challenges of my

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Speaker 1: clearly remember putting Jennifer Lawrence on the day of the

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Speaker 1: and it's so sad, and now they have on the

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Speaker 1: watched these flu firs? We did not have flu firs.

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Speaker 2: I feel like some people bring their own team.

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Speaker 1: They do they do.

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Speaker 2: Like I think Sabrina actually had a guide. I was

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Speaker 1: Trying to no no, no, no no. I mean if

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Speaker 1: And I'm here to say that whoever decided that there

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Speaker 1: trains and dresses so they sit properly for photos, I

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Speaker 1: have you been? And this idea was brilliant and considerate,

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Speaker 1: and I'm almost wondering if it was like if it

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Speaker 1: there to flut trains. I mean, it is help us,

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Speaker 2: goddess yep, which is their signature signature vibe. But yeah,

432
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,760
Speaker 2: she looked beautiful, very very casey from Deeper Well album.

433
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: In my opinion. Okay, moving right along to our most

434
00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 2: costumed ladies of the evening.

435
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Speaker 1: I listen. I loved Charlie XX. I actually loved that

436
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: it was Gautier, and I actually loved that because I

437
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 1: don't know, it felt like her, like it felt cool,

438
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:41,679
Speaker 1: it felt cool. I actually love the dress like it.

439
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:47,960
Speaker 1: It is very cature of the moment, It is very

440
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,600
Speaker 1: you know, it worked for her like it really did

441
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: in the boots with her hair. I really loved this.

442
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: I think some people didn't, but I did.

443
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,359
Speaker 2: Like Charlie XX is like you know, brat. Her album

444
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 2: was like the movement of this It's.

445
00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:03,800
Speaker 1: Literally all anyone talked about this summer.

446
00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 2: Exactly, And like she is that vibe of like a

447
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:10,119
Speaker 2: rave princess And if I had to draw a dress

448
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,199
Speaker 2: for somebody that's like rave electronic dance music princess, like

449
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,040
Speaker 2: this to me is like spot on for her. Thousand

450
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 2: and then amazing chapel Erone, who won Best New Artist

451
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:30,679
Speaker 2: again vintage Jean Paul Gutier, obviously in a themed costume moment,

452
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: leaning into the impressionist art that's on the gown, and

453
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 2: she won and she was I mean, she's just such

454
00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: a cool, interesting smart artist. That again, both of these women,

455
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 2: Charlie and Chapelone have been in the music is industry

456
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: for a long time, and it's like so awesome that

457
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:54,240
Speaker 2: they're getting their flowers now and there and they're just themselves. Like,

458
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:59,120
Speaker 2: you know, Chapel Roone is just unapologetically Chapel.

459
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Speaker 1: I mean, I think she great. I also listen, any

460
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 1: any woman who holds their own and speaks their mind

461
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: and wears whatever, is not afraid of anything, and doesn't

462
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 1: give f all what, you know, what anybody thinks. You know,

463
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: I think holds a very special place for me and

464
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: can do no wrong. And obviously this is taking it

465
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: to a whole nother place, but you know, god speed.

466
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 2: Like chap boys, like it's like the Met Gala, every

467
00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 2: every carpet the Met Gala for her, Like she picks

468
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,160
Speaker 2: her own theme. Yes, she decides the character she wants

469
00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 2: to become, and she like goes for it.

470
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Speaker 1: Listen, we have very few and far between of those

471
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Speaker 1: moments anymore, so bless you know, I'm here for it.

472
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,479
Speaker 1: I also want to say on Charlie XCX, like I

473
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:46,320
Speaker 1: remember when I saw her perform at the either the

474
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Speaker 1: Cat No, it was the Locke mcgala this year, and

475
00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:52,359
Speaker 1: I remember everyone was like freaking out that she was

476
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: going to perform. Everyone and these were all like adults.

477
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: These were not like kids, you know, and like industry

478
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: people that are jaded one hundred percent. And people were

479
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: like freaking out, and I was like, what is this about?

480
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 1: I'm so unimpressed, And then I got sucked in. I

481
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: couldn't stop watching her. She was amazing. She was so

482
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: much fun to watch, for sure. Yeah, and I was

483
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: wearing something so cumbersome to wear that I was like

484
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: dying to get home and get out of it. And

485
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: then I just stayed like another hour to watch her

486
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,240
Speaker 1: because I was like, she's so good, She's so great.

487
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, I think these two again gonna be around

488
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: for a while. Which brings me to one of my

489
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 2: favorite pop Princess Lady Gaga. You actually posted so she

490
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: performed with Bruno Mars. She was nominated with Bruno performance

491
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Speaker 2: California Dreaming.

492
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Speaker 1: Okay, can I just say yeah, that gave me. It

493
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: was like a hug that was a hug, that was

494
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: a hug. And I think.

495
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Speaker 2: The Gamys did a very beautiful job of I agree.

496
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: Of they were raising money during the show, they highlighted

497
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,400
Speaker 2: the LA Firefighters, which was really nice.

498
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 1: I literally watched it four times. It was so good.

499
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: I'm also such a mama's and the papa's like Stan.

500
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: I just the whole thing is so good, and that

501
00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: was amazing. I also loved how she went into that

502
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 1: like bohemian role right away in her outfit to perform

503
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: in was so good. She's Gaga is so good. It's

504
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: terrifying sometimes how talented she is.

505
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: It feels like Chapel Roone. I mean, it feels like

506
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:30,040
Speaker 2: these women who can recreate themselves and become what their

507
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 2: music is trying to personify, Yes, and they do it.

508
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: So Gaga was back to her like goth Gaga self,

509
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: which I'm here for. I mean, Gaga used to be

510
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: bar none, the most out there in dress. I mean

511
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 2: she was, I'll be honest.

512
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: Can I say something about that in full disclosure? Yeah,

513
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: for me, that took away a little bit, like I'm

514
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 1: actually the biggest Gaga fan when she's just herself. And

515
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:01,640
Speaker 1: I know I'm that way about a lot of people.

516
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: And I understand that music is such a freedom of

517
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: expression and dressing yourself in that persona that you want

518
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,480
Speaker 1: to be in that moment. I have so much respect

519
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: for that. But sometimes these women, in my opinion, get

520
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: so buried under the makeup and the stuff that I

521
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: love that you lose their like you're like, wait, who

522
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 1: you just want to like get under what it is.

523
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,920
Speaker 1: And I think for me, I'm always such a die

524
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,800
Speaker 1: hard fan of Gaga in her natural state or in

525
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: her like movie star state. I just love that because

526
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:41,479
Speaker 1: she her voice is like it transcends you like it

527
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: actually does. And I remember when she first came out

528
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 1: and everyone was like, go go Gaga, and I was like, oh,

529
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:48,119
Speaker 1: it's just trying to be like Madonna, like because I

530
00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 1: was so Madonna right, And then I was like, she

531
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: won you over.

532
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: Shit.

533
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: She's so talented.

534
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 2: And when she performed I think it was the Grammys

535
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: with Elton John, I mean that was just like insane, like, oh.

536
00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: Mine, incredible.

537
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 2: But she's back to like goth princess and Vivian Westwood.

538
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,880
Speaker 2: She's in an archival Tiffany necklace.

539
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 1: Listen, if you're gonna do this look, you do it

540
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: with Vivian Westwood and archival Tiffany. She did it one

541
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

542
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,479
Speaker 2: Correctly and to your point earlier Gaga has a new

543
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: album coming out, so I feel like this is her

544
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 2: next chapter, this is the next era of the Gaga,

545
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 2: and she's like giving us the taste like sort of

546
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:28,360
Speaker 2: like goth princess vibe. But this Tiffany necklace stunning is insane.

547
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 2: So it's from the archives, it's never been seen before.

548
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 2: Thirty public gold Pearls, black Onyx and that like giant Tourmaline.

549
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: Tourmaline is so cool insane. It literally looks like its insane.

550
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 2: It literally looks like she like casts a spell on

551
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 2: somebody and you have to like rub the rub the

552
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 2: tourmaline to like break the spell. It's very whimsical, it's

553
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: very Gaga.

554
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm over her performance with Bradley Cooper.

555
00:28:55,520 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Yeah she okay. So she did fire Aid, which recently

556
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 2: happened in Los Angeles. Lady Gaga was there and she

557
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: thanks shallow by herself and it was just like everyone

558
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 2: was like on the feat next level.

559
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 1: She's just incredible and yeah her imagine if you could

560
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: sing like that.

561
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: I would never stop. I would be the most annoying

562
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 2: human being on the face.

563
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 1: Of the earth because I'd be much if you open

564
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: your mouth and that came out.

565
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna sing for you again.

566
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: Yeah that that won't happen to me.

567
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: It would be I'd be so annoying. I wanted to

568
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 2: shout out two ladies that I thought would be honorable

569
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 2: mentions for you. Yep, and that is miss Cardi B.

570
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Yep.

571
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 2: Cardi B was in Roberto Cavali.

572
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, that looks like archival Roberto Cavali. Unless it's a remake.

573
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: I think it's I think it's new.

574
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: And so it might be custom based on an arm

575
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: fire because I remember this dress and iteration of this,

576
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: especially with the bottom, the way it.

577
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 2: Is, the feathers, the sequence, all the thanks, all of

578
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 2: the things.

579
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: She looks great.

580
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: I love lam.

581
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: Yep, she looks great. I love her hair. I love this.

582
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,239
Speaker 1: But you see how beautiful she is.

583
00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 2: She's gorgeous. Yeah, she's a gorgeous girl. Now, I just

584
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: feel like Cardi is just such a standout as a personality,

585
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 2: like she's so fun and playful and whatever. I just

586
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: feel like she really brought it and looked very timeless, elegant,

587
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: poised Grammys. She looks great. The glam's great.

588
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: I think she looks amazing. Honestly one of my favorite

589
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: looks she's ever done. For sure, she looks great, a

590
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: great Cheryl grow Should we talk about that?

591
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 2: So the show opened with a bunch of artists that

592
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 2: we're playing Randy Newman's I Love La and I'm the

593
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: camera's moving around and I'm sort of noticing people and

594
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, who is that woman playing the bass? I'm like,

595
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 2: who is that? She has blonde, shorter hair. I'm like,

596
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 2: why can't I figure out who it is? So finally

597
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 2: the camera moves back around and it's Sheryl Crow and

598
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 2: she looks gorgeous than ever. I mean, she's been in

599
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: the music business for so long now she just looks

600
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: thirty five.

601
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 1: I mean impossible that she's sixty two.

602
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,760
Speaker 2: Like it's not. I don't know how, but she's just

603
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 2: stunning to me. I think that she really really brought it.

604
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: Like It's funny though, because the cool thing about Cheryl

605
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 1: Crow is that and I worked with her. I used

606
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: to work with her, I used to style her. I

607
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: have to say that she honestly like the thing about

608
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: her is that she looks like she just kind of

609
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna just throw on this Massoni from

610
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: my closet, pull a little makeup on, and go to

611
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 1: the ground. She has the Hudson cam Yes, the effortless

612
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 1: like California girl vibe. You know, I have no idea

613
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: where she's from, but I know that she looks incredible.

614
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: She honestly looks incredible. And I love Cheryl Crow's voice.

615
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: The best, like love the best. I just thought she

616
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: looked so gorgeous. Okay, Well, we've talked a lot about

617
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: some of our favorite looks, but I think we have

618
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,719
Speaker 2: to talk about something that was a repeated trend.

619
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna ask me to like it.

620
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna ask you to like it. Okay, But

621
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 2: there's a hair trend going around and I guess it's

622
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: called the step cut. I you can't. I don't love it. Okay,

623
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: we've seen it before. Share sort of famously did the

624
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: step cut, which was Bangs, and it's sort of it's

625
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 2: sort of like a non blended front piece. It's steps

626
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 2: and keeping, but one step. It's not like a layer down.

627
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: It's like it's like.

628
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: A one step. It's an unblended, grown out bang oh

629
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: ish kind of.

630
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Billie Eilish, we saw Billie Eilish at fire

631
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,719
Speaker 2: aid her hair. Who isn't it?

632
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 1: She's just My mother's fully obsessed with Billy. She listens

633
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: to her all day. My mother's eighty.

634
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Three and Billy and her brother Finny has performed first

635
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 2: at the Grammy's last night, and they're just like that,

636
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: like blood harm anything when like siblings sing and like

637
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 2: that beach boys thing that like it's so ethereal and awesome.

638
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: She's a billy.

639
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: Can I say something? Yeah, I want a campaign to

640
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: say that everyone who airs an award show like a

641
00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: big one, right, like a Globes Oscars, Grammys, Emmy's. I

642
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: think it would be fair if you ran it once

643
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: at the normal time, like six o'clock or whatever that is. Uh,

644
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: and then for all the parents that couldn't watch it

645
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: because it's during dinner and bed and homework time, then

646
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 1: they do another airing for the parents.

647
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I got to teach you how to record on your.

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Speaker 1: Or in modern day society, you can just watch it.

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Speaker 2: You get better record it. No, I get what you mean. Now,

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Speaker 2: I get you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I It's not fair because I want

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Speaker 1: to watch it live and I can't.

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Speaker 2: And the greatest part about the Grammys is it is

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Speaker 2: like one concert almost. Of course they're giving out awards

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Speaker 2: in between. Tre Trevor Noah was the host, and he's great, right,

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Speaker 2: he does his monologue, he does some crowd work, but

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Speaker 2: it is like a big concert.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's a concert, and so I wish that there was

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Speaker 2: like a version of them just cutting together all the

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Speaker 2: musical acts and putting that somewhere.

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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree. I think that would be super

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Speaker 1: helpful for all of us.

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Speaker 2: It would be very helpful. Yeah, but yeah, I feel like.

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Speaker 1: This I'm asking for a friend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the step hair cuts here, Gagah, Miley and Billy.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, I think in the world of entertainment,

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Speaker 1: I think that this Look, there's this big controversy about

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Speaker 1: all things, okay, because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I think I firmly believe that the days of cutting

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Speaker 1: anyone down and insulting anyone's hair, makeup, clothing, body types, anything,

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Speaker 1: whatever it is, I'm all for not doing any of

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Speaker 1: that because I do believe there is no winning and

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Speaker 1: there is no purpose. Sure, we all in front of ourselves,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time, I think, like I'm I'm

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Speaker 1: comfortable to say that this is not for me. The

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Speaker 1: step cut. I would not ever wear it myself. I'd

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Speaker 1: prefer that my children don't choose to do it. However,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is what they're feeling. And I think,

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Speaker 1: especially in the world of music, they are constantly birthing

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Speaker 1: new identities, and I think this is one of them,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I I just it's to me, it's

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Speaker 1: pretty aggressive. It's just harsh, and I just like, to

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Speaker 1: it's weird. I weirdly, just like a natural beauty. And

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Speaker 1: I like sometimes when people who are constantly on stage

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Speaker 1: and constantly in costumes and constantly like changing their makeup

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Speaker 1: and shaving their eyebrows and stuff, sometimes I just am like, wow,

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Speaker 1: they're so beautiful. Like, you know, I remember the first

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Speaker 1: time I saw Gwen Stefani without red lips, and I

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Speaker 1: almost died. I was like, she is stunning. Not that

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Speaker 1: she's not always stunning, but it was like amazing. Same

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Speaker 1: with Kim Kardashian. Like I think sometimes when we're so

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Speaker 1: used to seeing people with so much, sometimes that paired

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Speaker 1: down is like so beautiful and equally is shocking. Like

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Speaker 1: if Gaga came in with like nothing, yeah except a

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Speaker 1: soft blow dry.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, yeah, you're right.

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Speaker 1: Gaga came in as like with a nineties like soft

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Speaker 1: blow dry and like a like a Chloe dress or

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Speaker 1: something like that, Like that.

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Speaker 2: Would be really shocking.

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Speaker 1: That is shocking, as like the goth step cut that

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Speaker 1: we are the whole thing.

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Speaker 2: From the Grammy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Do you think we're going to see the step cut

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Speaker 2: at Fashion Week?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I do. I think we'll probably see it on

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Speaker 1: some models because it is a little.

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like edgy, punky. Yeah, so I think

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Speaker 2: we're going to see some model.

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Speaker 1: Yep. Grammy Is twenty twenty five has concluded, Thanks so

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Speaker 1: much for joining us for our quick Grammy Fashion recap.

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Speaker 1: Award season is in full swing, so we're excited to

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Speaker 1: do more of these red carpet recaps for all of you.

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Speaker 1: I also want to point out that I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: there wasn't a whole lot. It was very hard, I think,

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Speaker 1: for people to figure out what to do this award

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Speaker 1: season because it feels so wrong to do anything that's celebratory.

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Speaker 1: But I think the way that the Grammys really paid

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Speaker 1: tribute and raised funds for the wildfires felt so good.

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Speaker 1: It made me think that it should always be that way,

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Speaker 1: you know, for different because there's always another charity element.

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Speaker 1: There's just always something disastrous that happens in this country.

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Speaker 1: You're not wrong that I think we should do that

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Speaker 1: more often. Thank you so much for listening, Everyone to

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