Speaker 1: Feels like yesterday the Dolphins acquired Jalen Ramsey in a
Speaker 1: blockbuster trade with the Rams. Now the seven time Pro
Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback is likely changing uniforms again. Here what GM
Speaker 1: Chris Greer had to say today about why Miami plans
Speaker 1: to move on and what it would take to possibly
Speaker 1: part ways with Tyreek Hill Senor Sanders already on the move,
Speaker 1: off to Las Vegas to see the Raiders and then
Speaker 1: back to Boulder for a big workout with the Giants.
Speaker 1: It's not the only quarterback getting a closer look from
Speaker 1: Big Blue. We will tell you the latest on their
Speaker 1: options at number three.
Speaker 2: There's also always.
Speaker 1: A sleeper or too in the NFL Draft, So let's
Speaker 1: talk about one of the long shots. Former Jackson State
Speaker 1: star IRV Mulligan joins the show again. If only there
Speaker 1: were a word for getting a do over. Welcome inside
Speaker 1: with the Insiders alongside Ian Rapaport and Mike Gara.
Speaker 2: Follow I am Tom Glicerro.
Speaker 1: We are just nine days out from the kickoff of
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft in Green Bay, Wisconsin. We have a
Speaker 1: very very special guest coming up in just a few
Speaker 1: minutes to really dig deep into this draft all that
Speaker 1: it means all the big decisions.
Speaker 2: You are not going to want to miss that.
Speaker 1: But let's start out with some news around the NFL,
Speaker 1: and it began early this morning when Ian and I
Speaker 1: reported that the Dolphins and Jalen Ramsey have agreed mutually
Speaker 1: to explore trade talks. Now, GM Chris Greer did speak
Speaker 1: to the media clarified that Ramsey did not request a trade,
Speaker 1: but Ramsey and his agent David Mulagetta did have discussions
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins in recent days, and Greer said it
Speaker 1: became clear that it was in everyone's best interest to
Speaker 1: move on in Dallas. Another member of the Cowboys offensive
Speaker 1: line is walking away.
Speaker 2: Their longtime tackle Tyron.
Speaker 1: Smith, ha spent last season with the Jets, officially is
Speaker 1: going to sign a one day contract and retire as
Speaker 1: a member of the Cowboys or the best of his era.
Speaker 1: An eight time Pro Bowl selection, certainly a candidate for
Speaker 1: Canton in a few years. Again, the draft is fast approaching,
Speaker 1: as is the deadline on Wednesday to have pre draft
Speaker 1: workouts and visits That will include Jalen Milroe going through
Speaker 1: a private workout with the Giants, who continue to explore
Speaker 1: their options at quarterback or elsewhere. With the number three
Speaker 1: overall pick. That list also includes Shador Sanders, who the
Speaker 1: Giants are going to visit in Boulder on Thursday and
Speaker 1: put him through a private.
Speaker 2: Workout as well.
Speaker 1: All of which is to say, Mike, the Giants are
Speaker 1: not just focused on one person. Perhaps we already it
Speaker 1: tad too much into these private workouts here. It does
Speaker 1: sound like this is part of a process that they
Speaker 1: had intended to proceed on in this pre draft ramp
Speaker 1: up the.
Speaker 3: Entire draft process. Often when it comes to player evaluations,
Speaker 3: we'll say, well, what is the public finding out that
Speaker 3: the team has already known? And it's like we kind
Speaker 3: of say that there really are no true risers, even
Speaker 3: though that does happen from time to time, but there's
Speaker 3: no risers because the.
Speaker 2: Media is just catching up.
Speaker 3: Well that's sort of what happened here, because this news
Speaker 3: broke in the middle of our show last night and
Speaker 3: it was isolated to Shador Sanders, and then today it
Speaker 3: was like, well, they're also working out Jaylen Milroe, They're
Speaker 3: also working out Tyler Shuck. So the initial reaction of
Speaker 3: why are the Giants just scheduling this now and why
Speaker 3: are they doing this for Sanders? They're scrambling. Did they
Speaker 3: learn something new? No, this was part of the plan
Speaker 3: all along. And some players, especially quarterbacks, don't want to
Speaker 3: work out for teams privately until after their pro day.
Speaker 2: Sanders had a late pro day.
Speaker 4: The Giants have been in draft meetings.
Speaker 3: They just happened to set this up for this week.
Speaker 3: The Milroe one's going to be late as well. The
Speaker 3: Tyler Shuck won as well. If you're wondering where Jackson
Speaker 3: Dart isn't all this, they worked him out a while ago,
Speaker 3: just so happened to work out that way. So my
Speaker 3: understanding is all along the Giants had wanted to work
Speaker 3: these players out privately, just like they did last year
Speaker 3: when they didn't take a quarterback up high at number six.
Speaker 3: They're doing it again this year after the pro days.
Speaker 3: Shador Sanders and the rest of the quarterback here. So
Speaker 3: don't read too much into it. We'll let you know
Speaker 3: it next week when the draft starts. What the Giants
Speaker 3: are gonna do?
Speaker 4: How about that.
Speaker 1: Somewhere out there, Russell Wilson, Jamis Winston watching closely to
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Speaker 1: streaming and broadcast on ESPN. Well, take a look at
Speaker 1: Melkiper Junior's mock draft that you can find right now
Speaker 1: at ESPN dot com. He's got a couple of those
Speaker 1: quarterbacks up there, including Camboard at number one, Chador Sanders
Speaker 1: at number nine.
Speaker 5: But there's so much more to dig into, so let's
Speaker 5: bring in the man himself, Melkiper Junior, taking his debut
Speaker 5: right here on the Insiders. We've got so much to
Speaker 5: talk to talk about with you here tonight, Mel But
Speaker 5: I really want to know you've been doing this for decades,
Speaker 5: the final week of the leading up to the draft.
Speaker 1: What is your life like right now? What all is
Speaker 1: going through that beautiful head of Harriers.
Speaker 6: Sammie and Mike. It used to be Tom not anymore.
Speaker 2: Pout.
Speaker 7: Believe me, this is going going go on. But in
Speaker 7: terms of what I'm doing now is I'm getting the
Speaker 7: ratings board finalized, doing all the podcast first draft podcasts
Speaker 7: we do tomorrow, me and Field Yates and Greeney, and
Speaker 7: then basically just doing the radio TV and then in
Speaker 7: between just doing all the final checks, getting medical reports
Speaker 7: or the interviews, the intangibles, all the things that will
Speaker 7: factor into those final grades, and I'll have that filed
Speaker 7: this weekend.
Speaker 6: It'll be all over. So final mock draft was four
Speaker 6: point zero.
Speaker 7: Ratings go Saturday up to ben Ardleoche at the ESPN
Speaker 7: and then we're into Green Bay on Wednesday.
Speaker 4: We will see you there, Mellon.
Speaker 2: And one player who.
Speaker 8: I want to talk about obviously figures prominently in this
Speaker 8: coming draft is Shador Sanders. We talked to ear on
Speaker 8: the show out his Giants workout. Obviously he's been visiting.
Speaker 8: He's been a big time focus for all of us
Speaker 8: and obviously for quarterback needing teams. How do you view
Speaker 8: Shador Sanders compared to all of the other quarterbacks? Breakdown
Speaker 8: what he brings to what he would bring to a team.
Speaker 7: And he's old school traditional, he really is, and I
Speaker 7: look back at my right up when Drew Brees, when
Speaker 7: he came out at six foot in a quarter.
Speaker 6: You know, you think about the lack of great arms.
Speaker 7: Strant talked about wind and where he went was important
Speaker 7: obviously Chargers, then New Orleans where he won a Super
Speaker 7: Bowl in that dome. And I really believe Shador into
Speaker 7: Orleans will be a great fit with the Saints. You
Speaker 7: played Dome, Atlanta, Dome, Carolina, Tampa. That would be a
Speaker 7: great fit for Shador Sanders the New Orleans Saints. And
Speaker 7: to me, this about his toughness, right, how about the
Speaker 7: fact he had no running game? Okay, omari On Hampton
Speaker 7: and Ashton Genty had more rushing yards in two games,
Speaker 7: and they had their leading rusher had the whole year.
Speaker 6: So he didn't have the benefit of a running game.
Speaker 7: He had not benefit from an offensive line could block
Speaker 7: anybody at least two years ago.
Speaker 6: They couldn't got a little bit better this past year.
Speaker 7: And he's accurate, He's precise anything everybody wants, decision making, accuracy,
Speaker 7: toughness he has. Now he's six foot and a half.
Speaker 7: Can't change that, right, But six foot and a half
Speaker 7: is moar than good enough. Now and these in this
Speaker 7: day and age, and then you think about arm strength.
Speaker 6: Arm strength gets better.
Speaker 7: It's been proven with you know, Peyton and Brady and
Speaker 7: Drew Brees and others. So for me, Shador has what
Speaker 7: it takes now. Well, he has to be supported by
Speaker 7: a really good offensive line.
Speaker 6: That's why I said about Tom Brady when he was picked.
Speaker 7: So, yes, he's not creative like cam he doesn't have
Speaker 7: the mobility of cam he doesn't have the rocket arm
Speaker 7: of cam Ward. But certainly Shadoor in the right offense
Speaker 7: with the right personnel around him, can be great.
Speaker 2: How much do you factor in with him?
Speaker 3: Because he's your top rated quarterback right if I've got
Speaker 3: that correctly, how much do you factor in? You know
Speaker 3: how much he's been able to handle things off the field,
Speaker 3: everything he's seen. Is that part of your evaluation as well?
Speaker 3: Or is it strictly just on what you're seeing on
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 6: It's everything, Mike, you had it.
Speaker 7: He really is prepared, and I think being in that
Speaker 7: pressure packed environment of expectations played for all these different
Speaker 7: offensive coordinators, he adapted to what was expected in that
Speaker 7: situation that he was in, whether it was Jackson State,
Speaker 7: whether or they goes to Colorado and they start off great.
Speaker 7: Remember the upset TCU played for the national title. Then
Speaker 7: it went ourry, I think started to break down because
Speaker 7: the offensive line couldn't block anybody. Can't beat them if
Speaker 7: you can't block them. Yet, s your door never pointed fingers, guys.
Speaker 7: He never assigned blame to anybody. And that was the
Speaker 7: one thing that really stuck at even his showcase. Right
Speaker 7: you saw about the receivers. Hey, they're going to get
Speaker 7: a little winded. I got to make sure I back off.
Speaker 7: I'm just throwing the ball, Okay, he said, I don't
Speaker 7: have to throw one ball. I don't have to throw
Speaker 7: the ninety nine mile fastball all the time. I got
Speaker 7: to make it easier for my receivers. So Chador thinks
Speaker 7: like a pro, he acts like a pro, and certainly
Speaker 7: Dion always did. This circus atmosphereverybody said was going to
Speaker 7: come when when you select Shador is ridiculous. You guys, know,
Speaker 7: nobody worked harder and Deon, nobody prepared more. Nobody was
Speaker 7: loved more in that locker room than Deon, both as
Speaker 7: a football player as a baseball player with the Atlanta Braves.
Speaker 6: So all that garbage about the circus. You don't want that.
Speaker 6: There's no circus coming with Shador.
Speaker 7: The only thing's coming is professionalism, class and great football.
Speaker 1: Mel You go back to last year's draft, and you
Speaker 1: had six quarterbacks, of course, taken in the top twelve,
Speaker 1: pick six guys you can easily argue projected as actual
Speaker 1: NFL starters. This class is a little bit different. How
Speaker 1: many bona fide starting quarterbacks do you see in the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five draft class.
Speaker 7: I think you might get four out of this group.
Speaker 7: Maybe that's stretching it, maybe a little bit. I'm talking
Speaker 7: about successful.
Speaker 6: They're gonna get, They're gonna get their opportunity. But I
Speaker 6: did a test.
Speaker 7: I went back into some restarts back in nineteen seventy,
Speaker 7: and you'd be shocked at the percentages and how they
Speaker 7: go down after the first five picks in terms of
Speaker 7: hitting one. Successful starting quarterbacks now just guys that get
Speaker 7: out there and start. But are you a winning, successful
Speaker 7: starting quarterback. It's really tough gota catch lightning in a bottle, basically,
Speaker 7: but cam Ward certainly will be expected. Shador will be
Speaker 7: expected to be that guy Jackson Dart QB three. Then
Speaker 7: you go to Tyler Shuck Jaln Milroe. Then you get
Speaker 7: into some question, but Will Howard and Kyle McCord, Delan Gabriel,
Speaker 7: they're gonna get opportunities, but they're not all going to hit.
Speaker 6: They're not all going to successful.
Speaker 7: So I think the intriguing guy out of all this
Speaker 7: is Jaln Milroe because the talent is an abundance, but
Speaker 7: the accuracy is waning.
Speaker 6: That accuracy is an issue. Can it be fixed?
Speaker 7: Like Josh Allen, Josh Allen to me coming out, I knew,
Speaker 7: I thought he's going to be great. It's one of
Speaker 7: the highest grades I've ever gave a quarterback. Jalen Milroe
Speaker 7: will not have nearly that high a grade because after
Speaker 7: the first four games this year, he was not only
Speaker 7: missing short, intermediate, deep, he was just all over the
Speaker 7: place and not seeing the field. So for Jaln Milroe,
Speaker 7: if you can fix that, the talent, as I said,
Speaker 7: rocket arm, tremendous runner, and you can have packages rim
Speaker 7: guys right away. Hope you want to feel this year
Speaker 7: for whoever dress Jaln Milroe. But well, the passing, the
Speaker 7: pure passing skills develop and improve, that will determine his
Speaker 7: fate at the pro level.
Speaker 2: I wondered that about Milroe.
Speaker 8: Might a team that already has an established quarterback take
Speaker 8: him and say, you know what, this year, he's just
Speaker 8: going to be a package guy, just gonna run some
Speaker 8: just to get him on the field. And then after
Speaker 8: that we'll see I want to go specifically to the
Speaker 8: receiver position.
Speaker 4: I believe, correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 8: I believe you have Golden over McMillan. If that is
Speaker 8: the case, take me through why Matthew Golden is ahead
Speaker 8: of Ted McMillan. And then where do you think the
Speaker 8: run on receiver starts.
Speaker 4: In this draft?
Speaker 7: Yeah, remember a few years ago when he went with
Speaker 7: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three, twenty four that Jackson
Speaker 7: Smith and jigba is A Flowers, Jordan Addison, and then
Speaker 7: Quinton Johnston. So you may have a situation similar to that.
Speaker 7: But I think when you look at Matthew Golden, he
Speaker 7: is separated. In my opinion, Let's tay Travis Hunter out.
Speaker 6: Of the equation.
Speaker 7: Let's just say true pure wide receiver only. Matthew Golden's
Speaker 7: the guy. He's nailed the whole process, starting back in
Speaker 7: August when he got on that field, transferring over from
Speaker 7: the Houston Cougars. He became quietly the guy he was
Speaker 7: supposed to be others. It was him talk about making
Speaker 7: big plays down the field. Nine games, the average twenty
Speaker 7: plus yards per catch. He runs four two nine at
Speaker 7: the combine.
Speaker 6: He is ready to go. He gets great separation.
Speaker 7: You don't have to throw into tight windows with guy
Speaker 7: like Matthew Golden. That's why he has emerged as the
Speaker 7: number one receiver that's purely a receiver. With Dallas Arizona,
Speaker 7: that middle of the first round area basically right now
Speaker 7: is as far down as I think he will drop.
Speaker 8: Now you mentioned Travis Hunter, I want to go back
Speaker 8: quickly to that before the other guys get another crack
Speaker 8: at you. It seems well see, but it seems he
Speaker 8: likes himself as a receiver. I don't know about more
Speaker 8: than at corner, but a lot. How do you view
Speaker 8: him as a receiver, maybe compared to the kind of
Speaker 8: corner that he could be.
Speaker 7: I think he's spectacular both ways, and he hasn't even
Speaker 7: focused on one. He's been out there with a stamina
Speaker 7: in the endurance of somebody that's you know, just an
Speaker 7: alien because you cannot do what he did at the
Speaker 7: level he did it, and and just say, okay, you're
Speaker 7: not going to be great at this spot, but you
Speaker 7: may be okay over here. He was great at both spots.
Speaker 7: And he was out there counting and the number of
Speaker 7: players own the field. His head's always, his mind's always
Speaker 7: in the game. Okay, this guy eat, sleeps, and drinks football,
Speaker 7: and the talent is off the charts. So you get,
Speaker 7: as they say, two for the price of one. Dion
Speaker 7: said it perfectly. He said, Oh, you're gonna be late
Speaker 7: in the game, but at the end of the first
Speaker 7: half when at last, and you're gonna have Travis on
Speaker 7: the sidelines when your cornerbacks are getting beaten it the
Speaker 7: team's moving it down to the field.
Speaker 6: No, you cannot. So he's got to play both ways.
Speaker 7: If you talk about what are the things you try
Speaker 7: to do in football, You try to score, he can
Speaker 7: do that. He can put points on the board. You
Speaker 7: try to prevent scoring. He can do that playing corner
Speaker 7: and be another cover guy. Say for the Cleveland Browns
Speaker 7: who have some young corners they like, but they don't
Speaker 7: have any juice on offense, you know, everything electricity on offense.
Speaker 6: You know they playmakers fear factor players and Cleveland.
Speaker 7: Wide receiver catchup passes scoring touchdowns will be the focus.
Speaker 7: Helping out in coverage late in first half, pick your spots,
Speaker 7: latent games, what do most of these games come down
Speaker 7: to the mid portion of the fourth quarter and beyond.
Speaker 7: That's the way Travis Hunter I think will be utilized
Speaker 7: in the NFL.
Speaker 3: Let's going to the running back position, mel because about
Speaker 3: ten years ago, I remember some of the conversation being
Speaker 3: will we ever see a first round running back ever?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 3: Well, we did, and we've seen plenty of them, and
Speaker 3: we've seen the impact, and now we're back to Hey,
Speaker 3: the running.
Speaker 2: Back is sexy.
Speaker 3: The running back is top ten, perhaps even top five
Speaker 3: with Ashton gent I mean, it's not like the draft
Speaker 3: years ago when you had three running backs in the
Speaker 3: top five. We're not going to get there. But with genty,
Speaker 3: does what Saquon Barkley did last year help him as
Speaker 3: far as the team saying, well, if we do take
Speaker 3: them top five, that's fine because we could see the
Speaker 3: impact that he had and on top of that, he's
Speaker 3: of a football player too.
Speaker 7: Great question, Mike, because people say no because Philadelphia was
Speaker 7: a finished product with the missing link of Saquon, so
Speaker 7: you need to be that kind of team. I started
Speaker 7: this stuff twenty some years ago, saying he shouldn't take
Speaker 7: a running back in the first round, and I got
Speaker 7: yelled at, I got ridiculed, I got you.
Speaker 6: Talk about it. I destroyed.
Speaker 7: And now it seems like I'm defending these running backs
Speaker 7: because they were always guys graded on ability. They weren't
Speaker 7: great at doing my philosophy with something to.
Speaker 6: Say, it was ridiculous. But now they're not saying that. Right.
Speaker 7: But when you look at Ashton Genty and omari On Hampton,
Speaker 7: they're rated very high.
Speaker 6: I have a you know, Genty is four on the board.
Speaker 7: I got Hampton's gonna end up probably around thirteen fourteen.
Speaker 7: They're outstanding running backs. They're complete running backs right and
Speaker 7: now I think there's a little bit of a drop
Speaker 7: off where others may think. Tradyon Henderson is close from
Speaker 7: Ohio State, a lot of help from Quinn Shawn Judkins.
Speaker 7: He was not durable until this year when he had
Speaker 7: some help and he had carries taken away by the
Speaker 7: other back and he became a game breaker. I think
Speaker 7: he'll be a nice second round pick, maybe to the Bears,
Speaker 7: who have two picks at thirty nine and forty one.
Speaker 7: But Genty is special and a Mario and Hampton is
Speaker 7: just a shade below. So those two backs are going
Speaker 7: in the first round. Will Genty be a Raider? Will
Speaker 7: he be a Chicago Bear? Will Hampton be a Cowboy?
Speaker 7: Will he be a Denver Bronco. I think I'd be
Speaker 7: a great pick at twenty for Sean Payton if he
Speaker 7: gets Amrio and Hampton there to help out Bowe Nix.
Speaker 7: They don't have a great running back there right now,
Speaker 7: anything close to it. Hampton could be that guy. Well,
Speaker 7: the Raiders who couldn't run the football, help out Geno
Speaker 7: Smith with Ashton, Genty, port drafting armand Membo from Missouri.
Speaker 6: The offensive lineman Yo.
Speaker 7: And if he gets to the Bears, I gotta believe
Speaker 7: Ben Johnson if you imagine if Tyler Warren and Ashton
Speaker 7: and Genty are sitting there for the Bears, like, can
Speaker 7: I get him both? Is there some way we can
Speaker 7: get now you'll get one. Well, that'll be a tough
Speaker 7: call if both of them are sitting there. We'll see
Speaker 7: how it plays out. But I think both those running backs,
Speaker 7: like you say, will be really good and he'll be
Speaker 7: really good, good right away.
Speaker 2: On the side of the ball.
Speaker 1: Mill Abdul Carter is the main name that we've heard
Speaker 1: in the mix of number two and number three, the
Speaker 1: elite prospect on defense in this draft. How good of
Speaker 1: a prospect is Abdull Carter historically and how big is
Speaker 1: the gap if there is one from him and everybody
Speaker 1: else on defense?
Speaker 7: He's special, he could he should be ten to fifteen
Speaker 7: sacks a year. He's got that kind of bend. He
Speaker 7: plays all out every snap of the football. He saw
Speaker 7: the way he chases, he plays the run, he steals
Speaker 7: the edge. He's just a warrior on the football field.
Speaker 7: Now he has the foot issue that he's dealing with.
Speaker 7: They won't need surgery. But I think when you look
Speaker 7: at Abdul Carter, you could argue he's the best player
Speaker 7: in the draft.
Speaker 6: I have him like one a right behind Travis Hunter.
Speaker 6: That's the thing.
Speaker 7: You have Travis Hunter, who's generational because you'll never see
Speaker 7: a player like this ever again. And then you have
Speaker 7: Abdul Carter, who you're talking about double digit sacks automatic, right,
Speaker 7: that's what you need pass rusher. So now you're saying,
Speaker 7: do we get Shador do we put Shador in that
Speaker 7: position at two three over the guys who are one
Speaker 7: on our board or two on our board. That's why
Speaker 7: Shador drops down just a bit because even for me,
Speaker 7: who I love Schador, he's at five on the board,
Speaker 7: Abdul Carter's at two, Travis Hunters at one.
Speaker 6: It's tough to pass when you're picking, you know, two.
Speaker 7: Three, you got to get a guy above that when
Speaker 7: you're bored, you know, not below it, but above it, okay,
Speaker 7: or you're reaching a bit. So I understand why they
Speaker 7: would pass and wait it out a bit, but certainly
Speaker 7: New Orleans at nine is the spot.
Speaker 6: I think.
Speaker 7: Then you're getting the fifth best player at nine. That's
Speaker 7: what you want if you're the New Orleans size. And
Speaker 7: by the way, what happened drafted a quarterback in the
Speaker 7: first round and what fifty four years since Archie Manning?
Speaker 8: That is the craziest out of all time. I do
Speaker 8: want to talk historically, or not about Archie Manning, but
Speaker 8: I want to talk historically about you. And I would
Speaker 8: never ask you Mel to sing your own praises, but
Speaker 8: sing your own praises for just a little bit. You've
Speaker 8: been doing this a very long time you are the expert,
Speaker 8: what is your favorite draft hit, one that you nailed
Speaker 8: that no one else had, that you're still proud of
Speaker 8: to this day.
Speaker 6: It's one that nobody will ever remember.
Speaker 7: Nobody ever is gonna They're never gonna talk about it
Speaker 7: because it wasn't made an issue by Rich Brooks, who
Speaker 7: was coaching the Rams at the time, and when he
Speaker 7: was interviewed right after the pick, and I was very
Speaker 7: critical of their two first round picks. They drafted Lawrence
Speaker 7: Phillips and Eddie Kennison. Kennison from LSU, I was critical
Speaker 7: of both picks. I said, I would have drafted Eddie
Speaker 7: George and Marvin Harrison. Okay, Eddie George Marvin Harrison as
Speaker 7: opposed to Lawrence Phillips and Eddie Kennison.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 6: It turned out pretty good. Right when they talked to
Speaker 6: Rich Brooks about.
Speaker 7: It, Hey, Melkkiper's back there. Well, Mel's right to his opinion.
Speaker 7: We liked the players we drafted. We'll see what how
Speaker 7: it all plays out, but we're really happy and everybody,
Speaker 7: as an opinion, it went by the boards. Nobody made
Speaker 7: no issue of it. Now, Rich Brooks was at Kiper's
Speaker 7: and Eddiot he knows nothing about the draft. I don't
Speaker 7: know why the hell he's on there.
Speaker 6: He's a joke. Cut out all of it and made
Speaker 6: an issue of it that way, then it.
Speaker 7: Would have been always spotlighted, right, But it wasn't because
Speaker 7: it wasn't commenting on that way, and it wasn't. The
Speaker 7: answer wasn't what maybe a lot of people thought it
Speaker 7: should be. So Rich Brooks handled a certain way and
Speaker 7: it was forgotten. But going back over the years, that
Speaker 7: was the worst one.
Speaker 6: We're not going to talk.
Speaker 7: I think you guys know the worst one. It's always
Speaker 7: gonna punt me forever. But that's the way it goes.
Speaker 7: But when you talk quarterbacks, but you're gonna have hit
Speaker 7: or hits in this says, but that's the one. Like
Speaker 7: I say, a couple of hits that, like I said,
Speaker 7: nobody to this day whatever I remember pretty good.
Speaker 2: How they will. We're a very popular program.
Speaker 1: The last we arount of time, Tom, we used the last time,
Speaker 1: last thing for email real quick. I thought you had
Speaker 1: another question, Mike, last thing for Emal.
Speaker 2: I'm curious about this.
Speaker 1: I read one time, want me to Go that your
Speaker 1: first contract at ESPN was worth four hundred dollars one
Speaker 1: is that accurate? And in nineteen eighty four, with no email,
Speaker 1: no cell phones, presumably you know, obviously no digital video
Speaker 1: or anything.
Speaker 2: What were you doing? How did you do the job?
Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 7: That's a great question, because I had to make calls
Speaker 7: to schools to get basic fundamental statistical information that you
Speaker 7: had to have. I would be on the phone, well
Speaker 7: my landline, which people don't have anymore. They'll do about
Speaker 7: twenty to twenty eight hours a week just calling schools,
Speaker 7: getting sacks, tackles for loss, you know, receptions, average per catch,
Speaker 7: all the stats that you can get now at your fingertips.
Speaker 7: I had a call and spend le say, twenty to
Speaker 7: twenty eight thirty hours a week making those calls, and
Speaker 7: all of those conversations that you thought would be five
Speaker 7: minutes aren't to be an hour. And in that hour
Speaker 7: I got a lot of information I didn't anticipate getting.
Speaker 7: That's why I tell kids, don't text, don't even call
Speaker 7: and speak to somebody.
Speaker 6: Develop relationships.
Speaker 7: A lot of these sports information directors being great friends
Speaker 7: of mine for thirty forty years guys.
Speaker 6: So that's what I had to.
Speaker 7: Do and had that big monster dish on the on
Speaker 7: the roof and ramble Wood Road back in Baltimore, that
Speaker 7: luckily our neighbors had no problem with because it was
Speaker 7: a monster on that roof when nobody else had it.
Speaker 7: So that really helped me immensely, and then making calls
Speaker 7: and then working is I always say to kids, three words.
Speaker 6: Should be on that T shirt with all these different
Speaker 6: sayings you have.
Speaker 7: The three words should be pay your dues and if
Speaker 7: you had, if you attack it, you work hard. I
Speaker 7: didn't know when the report started it would make a penny,
Speaker 7: if it would be a business or not earning. Of
Speaker 7: course it was a huge factor and encouraging me at
Speaker 7: sixteen years of age. And then when he offered me
Speaker 7: that position with the Colts in nineteen eighty three didn't
Speaker 7: work out, but they said, hey, keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 7: Fans crave this information. Keep it going, and I think
Speaker 7: you can be successful at it. So Ernie, of course
Speaker 7: you thought enough about me not to bring me in
Speaker 7: with him because he.
Speaker 6: Thought he would be leaving. I said, what do you
Speaker 6: want to do, Erne, keep doing what you're doing.
Speaker 7: Five months later got to call him the ESPN to
Speaker 7: go up an interview if it wasn't for Ernie, of course,
Speaker 7: you guys, somebody else will be working at ESPN doing
Speaker 7: that job. I would have been probably chicked to the
Speaker 7: curb by the Colts because Ernie would have been gone,
Speaker 7: and I don't know what the heck I would be
Speaker 7: doing right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, not to date you, but we all grew
Speaker 1: up watching you on that NFL Draft. You're part of
Speaker 1: the lived experience that we have as kids in parlay,
Speaker 1: a big factor of what we do now. So make
Speaker 1: sure that that iPhone you're keeping your desk that you
Speaker 1: don't use, make sure that's charged before you get on
Speaker 1: the plane into Green Bay.
Speaker 2: We'll try to connect with you there. Man, appreciate you
Speaker 2: being here.
Speaker 6: Tommy and Mike appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Guys. Awesome, Thank you though NICs Budd.
Speaker 1: Mel kiper junior part of the NFL Network ESPN Crossover.
Speaker 1: He continues all this week. Kyle Brant saw him on
Speaker 1: Sports Center earlier. Dangel Jeremiah's going to be on NFL Live.
Speaker 1: You're gonna be ab to see field Yates here on
Speaker 1: path to the draft as well, and so much more.
Speaker 1: Stick around all week as we count down the final
Speaker 1: nine days until pick number one goes on the clock
Speaker 1: in green Bay, So dour Sanders probably not going to
Speaker 1: go number one, but could he still come off the
Speaker 1: board quickly? Next Thursday night, we'll get Baldy's impression of
Speaker 1: the Shador Sanders stock right after this on the Insiders,
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Speaker 2: Today. Quarterbacks always drive at.
Speaker 1: Least the narrative in these different NFL drafts, And according
Speaker 1: to Bucky Brooks, he's in the same boat as mel
Speaker 1: kiper Junior just had an awesome interview with us. He's
Speaker 1: got Shador Sanders at number one, ahead of the presumptive
Speaker 1: number one pick, cam Ward Jackson Dart among others. Time
Speaker 1: now for count on It presented by Toro. We can
Speaker 1: always count on our Brian Baldinger, who tonight, Baldi, I
Speaker 1: want you to break down Shador Sanders. You just heard
Speaker 1: mel not taking a breath, not putting a period on
Speaker 1: the sens is he can roll man, He's a big
Speaker 1: Shador Sanders fan. Tell me what you see and the
Speaker 1: potential fits for Shador.
Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I'm gonna take a breath here a little
Speaker 9: bit unlike now. But Mel hit on a lot of
Speaker 9: good points here.
Speaker 4: Tom.
Speaker 9: The thing that's interesting because I was at the pro
Speaker 9: day that the Giants and Cleveland a lot of teams
Speaker 9: attended back on April fourth, so eleven days ago, and
Speaker 9: you know, in talking to Pat Shermer, his offensive coordinator,
Speaker 9: this was the fifth offense that Shadur has learned. And
Speaker 9: the reason why he installed the offense, which, by the way,
Speaker 9: is you see a carbon copy of what Chip Kelly
Speaker 9: ran at Oregon. In Philadelphia. It's four wide receivers, you
Speaker 9: have your inside receivers, your outside receivers, your quarterbacks that
Speaker 9: have shot down with the running back. Because his best
Speaker 9: five players with Shador in the four receivers, including you
Speaker 9: know le Chante Western and.
Speaker 2: You know Travis Hunter, Diricks, et cetera.
Speaker 9: But they install this offense because that was the best
Speaker 9: way to move the ball.
Speaker 2: It wasn't the best for Shador.
Speaker 9: It wasn't the best for protection max protection going through
Speaker 9: progressions because what teams saw was short edges, a poor
Speaker 9: offensive line and Shador basically having the maneuver and get
Speaker 9: the ball on his hands. Because he wasn't the most
Speaker 9: blitzed quarterback in the country, but I think he was
Speaker 9: as Max blitzed a quarterback to his doors. And you
Speaker 9: don't see Max blitz is in college. You don't see
Speaker 9: blitzerials in college like you do from Steve Spagnola, like
Speaker 9: you do in the NFL. You just because the offenses
Speaker 9: are spread, the safeties are back, don't get informations where
Speaker 9: you can Max blitz very often. But Chador saw it,
Speaker 9: and he actually did really good against Max blitzes where
Speaker 9: he identified it number one pre.
Speaker 10: Snap and then number two.
Speaker 2: He knew where he was going with the ball.
Speaker 9: And so I think when you evaluate Shador like he's
Speaker 9: got an incredibly accurate deep ball, a lot of deep
Speaker 9: balls against these blitzes. He just held onto the ball
Speaker 9: as long as he could and then let it fly,
Speaker 9: let his receivers go get it for some big plays.
Speaker 10: And then the other thing was that guy will throw
Speaker 10: it from a dirty pocket.
Speaker 9: Tone you want to chest his toughness, you want to
Speaker 9: test you know what kind of armor he has. He's
Speaker 9: no problem staying in there looking down at you know,
Speaker 9: proverbial gun barrel and delivering a ball like he is
Speaker 9: very tough, and he's very patient with the ball, waits
Speaker 9: for his receivers, you know, before they can break and
Speaker 9: get it out. There's a lot of things to like
Speaker 9: about him. One of the reasons why Bucky has them
Speaker 9: number one, Meil has them number one. Some of these
Speaker 9: intangibles against the blitz of what you really like about
Speaker 9: him right now to stage.
Speaker 1: Nine more days till the NFL Draft, Probably a lot
Speaker 1: more baldy in that span as well.
Speaker 2: We appreciate you being here, buddy.
Speaker 1: Also could be nine, ten eleven days until we get
Speaker 1: answers on the future of Jalen Ramsey, who appears to
Speaker 1: be on his way out in Miami. Hear what Chris
Speaker 1: Greer had to say today about why Miami plans to
Speaker 1: move on from a seven time Pro Bowl corner. Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey and the Dolphins have mutually agreed to explore trade options,
Speaker 1: as Ian and I reported this morning, and as confirmed
Speaker 1: later by general manager Chris Greer, who explained how things
Speaker 1: got to this point where the sides are going to
Speaker 1: explore trade.
Speaker 11: After a couple of weeks of discussions between ourselves internally
Speaker 11: and Jalen and his representation, we decided that it was
Speaker 11: probably the best interest for all parties to move forward.
Speaker 11: So I will say these decisions aren't done quickly and
Speaker 11: they're not taken lightly, because we spent a lot of
Speaker 11: time this offseason working through this, talking through things. At
Speaker 11: the end of the day, Jalen did not ask for
Speaker 11: a trade, so we went through the process and I
Speaker 11: just felt that after numerous conversations and then talking last
Speaker 11: week with Jalen and his agent, that it was best
Speaker 11: to move forward and it was the best interest of
Speaker 11: the Miami Dolphins and for Jalen Ramsey.
Speaker 1: And not a lot of occasions when a seven time
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl corner suddenly becomes at least publicly available nine
Speaker 1: days out from the NFL drafted. Here we are with
Speaker 1: a player who just last August got paid on a
Speaker 1: new top of market contract.
Speaker 2: How do we get here? And where do you see
Speaker 2: it going?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 8: I knew mega contract for Jalen Ramsey just one year later.
Speaker 4: Now essentially here we are.
Speaker 8: It feels like Tom, the best way to sum this
Speaker 8: up is this relationship.
Speaker 4: Has run its course, right. I mean, it was kind.
Speaker 8: Of a whirlwind romance if you would describe it like that,
Speaker 8: A big time trade, which a great fanfare from the
Speaker 8: Los challenge just Rams who also acquired Ramsey in a
Speaker 8: big trade. It's a great fan for had a ton
Speaker 8: of success. Ramsey one of the best players in the
Speaker 8: NFL over the course of the last decade at his position,
Speaker 8: showed up there. Unfortunately got injured, but really was an
Speaker 8: incredible person in that team during the time of his injury.
Speaker 8: Ended up getting healthy, got that huge new deal. Fast
Speaker 8: forward a year and after several meetings, after several conversations,
Speaker 8: the determination was made. But Ramsey and his people and
Speaker 8: the Dolphins and their people to move forward it and
Speaker 8: try to seek a trade. Now, there's no guarantee that
Speaker 8: Ramsey will be traded, as Chris gear said, if he's
Speaker 8: not traded, they'll.
Speaker 4: Figure it out.
Speaker 8: He's do twenty five million dollars fully guaranteed. Four has
Speaker 8: already been paid.
Speaker 10: Acquiring them.
Speaker 8: Would only only acquired twenty one million dollars fully guaranteed.
Speaker 4: But surely there is at least going to be a market.
Speaker 2: Only twenty one million dollar. Let me see what I
Speaker 2: got here? Only only twenty one minute.
Speaker 4: No, I don't get it.
Speaker 3: Then there, Sorry, so I got Meanwhile, Tyreek Hill would
Speaker 3: only cost two first round picks if you're looking to
Speaker 3: trade for him. That's what Chris Greer said today when
Speaker 3: he was asked about Hill. He said, if someone's willing
Speaker 3: to trade me too first round picks. Nobody's willing to
Speaker 3: do that. So translation, he's not trading him, not expecting
Speaker 3: you'd have to be blown away, completely blown away. So look,
Speaker 3: it's been sort of a roller roller coaster. It started
Speaker 3: with Hill basically saying that he wanted out. Then they
Speaker 3: had conversation with the front office and they backed it down.
Speaker 3: Then there were some tweets after that, if I'm not
Speaker 3: mistaken where some folks were reading into it.
Speaker 2: Well, here we are with Chris Greer saying.
Speaker 3: This guy still got it. He's not going anywhere. He's
Speaker 3: a big part of what we do. Are we done
Speaker 3: on this roller coaster?
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I guess you never really know what this kind of stuff.
Speaker 3: So we'll see where it goes from here. But for
Speaker 3: right now, the Dolphins and Chris Greer plan on having
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill part of the mix in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Five, and Greer also sort of bucked back at the
Speaker 1: idea that this is a rebuild. Keeping Tyreek Hill certainly
Speaker 1: would indicate that they're still trying to win right now,
Speaker 1: but some big decisions for them to make any NFL draft,
Speaker 1: which begins in just nine days.
Speaker 12: Thank God, the.
Speaker 10: Wrong again, Oh God, goodness.
Speaker 13: Whatever gets in the heart and runner indeed strong cat
Speaker 13: for sure, IRV Mulligan and he wanted it. And now
Speaker 13: we're joined by that man, IRV Mulligan, someone who can
Speaker 13: be mentioned in the same breath as Pro Football Hall
Speaker 13: of Famer Walter Payton.
Speaker 4: We'll get to that a little bit later on RV.
Speaker 13: But how's everything going When you sit there and you
Speaker 13: watch that tape of you scoring and you're finding your
Speaker 13: at Jack and State, how does that feel now that
Speaker 13: everything's kind of coming full circle?
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, it's a blessing. Man.
Speaker 12: It's just not the soaking because this the momentum way
Speaker 12: and fall since you was like a kid. So to
Speaker 12: see it all come true and all it like you know,
Speaker 12: revealing itself is it's just something.
Speaker 10: That you you'll never forget. Man.
Speaker 12: So it's like just trusting the process. That's what we
Speaker 12: was always saw. So just trusting the process and sticking
Speaker 12: with the process, Man, is the fun part about it.
Speaker 12: So when the time actually come and were back playing football,
Speaker 12: that'd be the glory, that'll be the fruit to our libor.
Speaker 12: But I'm just enjoying the process right now. This is
Speaker 12: a dream come true, So I'm grateful.
Speaker 13: Well that's great, So let's walk back a little bit
Speaker 13: for the process. For folks who don't know about what
Speaker 13: you did at Jackson State this year. Twelve hundred and
Speaker 13: forty five yards, thirteen touchdowns, You enter the record books,
Speaker 13: you're the Southwestern Athletic Conference Offensive Player.
Speaker 4: Of the Year, all of these accolades.
Speaker 13: Right, So you talk about the process, But next week
Speaker 13: is the NFL Draft, where you can land either during.
Speaker 4: The draft or after the draft on an NFL roster.
Speaker 13: Right, you talk about this process, what exactly has gone
Speaker 13: into it for you?
Speaker 12: It's a lot of things that's going to First, you
Speaker 12: got to start with your you know, your collegiate career.
Speaker 10: That's where you set to your strongest foundation.
Speaker 12: That so to be able to perform on a collegiate
Speaker 12: career and your collegiate.
Speaker 10: Level, that's where it starts at.
Speaker 12: So to leave a legacy to beat Walter Penning records,
Speaker 12: you know, to get a notoriety, to be in a
Speaker 12: conversation with a legend and a great like him, it
Speaker 12: is you know, I'm great for the lessons. So for
Speaker 12: me to just continue to train and go through the process,
Speaker 12: like I said, to get to that next level is
Speaker 12: just amazing, man.
Speaker 10: And you know, there's a.
Speaker 12: Lot of guys and a lot of people counting us
Speaker 12: to you know, join their team, to be pros and
Speaker 12: do a lot of the same things those greats that
Speaker 12: left the blueprint behind for us to do. So that's
Speaker 12: what I'm excited most about, to join the team, to
Speaker 12: join the legacy or guys that already been that way
Speaker 12: before me I left, you know, a trail of great things.
Speaker 12: So I just want to join like any team, become
Speaker 12: a pro and do the same thing those guys did.
Speaker 13: Sorry, if you talking about that legacy, you're wearing a
Speaker 13: shirt that says the all HBCU Legacy. Ball was, you know,
Speaker 13: the big showcase for players from historically black colleges and universities.
Speaker 4: You got to.
Speaker 13: Speak to a ton of teams down there and they
Speaker 13: got to speak to you. What were some of the
Speaker 13: questions the things that they were curious about. Knowing that
Speaker 13: you're coming in after such a highlight type of season.
Speaker 12: Yes, sir, Well, the main question is, you know, every
Speaker 12: team want to know what type of guy or the game.
Speaker 12: So the main thing was, how are you different than
Speaker 12: the rest of the backs out there? Well, like I
Speaker 12: tell them, for one, my mentality, I don't think it's
Speaker 12: no back out there really, like, you know, with the
Speaker 12: mentality I got, with the grid I got in, you know,
Speaker 12: the chip I got my shoulder and too, like I'm
Speaker 12: my IQ, Like I'm just.
Speaker 10: As smart as a quarterbacks. So like a lot of
Speaker 10: guys forget that part of the game.
Speaker 12: Like it's you know, eighty percent mental, twenty percent physical
Speaker 12: in my mind, so my ability to read defenses and
Speaker 12: you know, out smart defenses. And like on this one
Speaker 12: touchdown run in the SWIT Championship game, it was an
Speaker 12: inside run. I turned it to an outside run, you know,
Speaker 12: just because of my IQ. I know the whole defense
Speaker 12: cross the middle. It's just the small simple things, you know,
Speaker 12: coming from like a small school and you know, coming
Speaker 12: from Walford, which is also a small school, so I always.
Speaker 10: Bank on my IQ. You know.
Speaker 12: So that's one thing that definitely separates me from that
Speaker 12: was the one question you wanted to know.
Speaker 13: I love hearing that because you're talking about your IQ.
Speaker 13: Because we see the physical specs, right five ten about
Speaker 13: two oh five four five forty you average about six
Speaker 13: point five yards per carry throughout your college career. Even
Speaker 13: though a lot of the video we're senior power runs.
Speaker 13: You've got the breakaway ability. So how about this. We
Speaker 13: know this is an incredibly deep running back group coming
Speaker 13: into the draft, but when you hear and see things
Speaker 13: about guys like ashing Gent and scatter Bow and guys
Speaker 13: like that, how do you compare yourself to them? Because
Speaker 13: you have some of the same physical specs.
Speaker 4: Just as good as numbers. What's your comparison line?
Speaker 10: Well, this this what I'll say. If you put the
Speaker 10: and an.
Speaker 12: Astra genty spot or one of those guys spout when
Speaker 12: where they have the so called e lead officer lines,
Speaker 12: the lead training, the nutrition, and the lead coaching. You
Speaker 12: put me in a position like that while I'm getting
Speaker 12: thirty twenty something carries a game and steve my results
Speaker 12: and see what I do. So the comparison, yeah, we
Speaker 12: all you know got the pro type for seek. But
Speaker 12: I feel like if you put me in those shoes,
Speaker 12: I would excel way better. I would have did way
Speaker 12: more so. And if you pay attention, I only had
Speaker 12: eighteen carries for game this year, not too many games
Speaker 12: more where I had more or less. So those guys
Speaker 12: getting all the twenty five to thirty carries, so you
Speaker 12: put that much, put the butt in my hand that much,
Speaker 12: you can see some amazing things. So those guys got
Speaker 12: some great games.
Speaker 10: You know. I love their game.
Speaker 12: They got like a lot of similar downhill their physical
Speaker 12: you know, but my home run speed is a little different.
Speaker 12: When I take off, I really take off. So I
Speaker 12: would say the physical point, yeah, you can compare us,
Speaker 12: but like the speed in my IQ. That's that's why
Speaker 12: I separated myself, all.
Speaker 4: Right, all right, I love hearing that.
Speaker 13: Look, we started off this conversation or of talking about
Speaker 13: Walter Payton, one of the greatest players ever in the
Speaker 13: NFL history, Black.
Speaker 4: College football history.
Speaker 13: You broke a single season rushing record this season at
Speaker 13: Jackson State, and.
Speaker 4: You talked about it a little bit.
Speaker 13: But being mentioned in the same breath as him, the
Speaker 13: legacy he's left at Jackson State in the NFL.
Speaker 4: Has that really sunk in yet to you?
Speaker 13: That you have had a better season than one of
Speaker 13: the greatest players ever at any level of football.
Speaker 12: You know, it's so crazy how many people remind me
Speaker 12: of it, but it's like I haven't yet, like really
Speaker 12: sat there, like you know, process it all, like I really,
Speaker 12: it really haven't hit me yet.
Speaker 10: And then that's one that's my idol.
Speaker 12: You know, if any running back out there or have
Speaker 12: played the game, that's the guy I watched the most
Speaker 12: and guy I studied the most, so you know, just
Speaker 12: me admire him and just saying I was gonna break
Speaker 12: his record and actually doing it.
Speaker 10: It feels good.
Speaker 12: But I don't think until it's time for somebody else
Speaker 12: to you know, break the rector next or close to
Speaker 12: break and the director or thirty you know, twenty years
Speaker 12: down the line. I feel like that's what I feel.
Speaker 12: It didn't but he still wants the paying and I'm
Speaker 12: still every Mulligan. So when I become, you know, the
Speaker 12: caliber guy he was, then I feel like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: hit me, then hit me.
Speaker 4: Then I love his sweetness. Two point oh IRV.
Speaker 13: Mulligan Jackson State point Oh, appreciate you man, thanks for
Speaker 13: taking the time and all the best.
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, love.
Speaker 1: No Mulligan's needed for our Steve Whites doing that interview
Speaker 1: with IRV Mulligan coming up after this, as Mark Andrews
Speaker 1: played his last down in Baltimore. Here what Eric the
Speaker 1: Costa the GM had to say today. That's next on
Speaker 1: the Insiders. Mark Andrews surely would like to forget the
Speaker 1: final play of his twenty twenty four season. Could this
Speaker 1: drop two point conversion also have been the last play
Speaker 1: of Andrews Ravens career. There's what GM Eric DaCosta had
Speaker 1: to say today about the team's plans at tight end.
Speaker 6: I never know what's gonna happen.
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I would never want to say this with that,
Speaker 14: you know, but I can tell you this, Mark Andrews
Speaker 14: is a warrior and he's played his butt off for
Speaker 14: us and his competitiveness, his talent, his attitude, his leadership
Speaker 14: is so valued here and he's a great player. And
Speaker 14: I think we're in the business of keeping as many
Speaker 14: great players as we can. I just think it depends
Speaker 14: on the player, Like there are some really good players
Speaker 14: in this same could be said about the running back
Speaker 14: position as well, and we've talked about that, you know,
Speaker 14: we talk about these things all the time, and the
Speaker 14: reality of it is is if there's like a tight
Speaker 14: end that we think is a blue chip tight end
Speaker 14: to a running back that we think is a blue
Speaker 14: chip running back, We're going to take them.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Insiders.
Speaker 1: Tom Pilasero, Ian Rapaport, Mike Garrofolo Ian Mark Andrews do
Speaker 1: eleven million dollars this season, already collected a four million
Speaker 1: dollars roster bonus. When you listen Eric Tacosta Tho talking
Speaker 1: about Andrews's future, what do you make But.
Speaker 8: I may of it that it is very very much
Speaker 8: up in the air. And you know, jams talk about
Speaker 8: balls being in the air right And the reason they
Speaker 8: say that is because a lot of things that could happen.
Speaker 8: You have Isaiah likely really good young player, merging young
Speaker 8: player who Win Andrews was not in the field, looked
Speaker 8: like a number one tight end going to make just.
Speaker 4: Three million dollars next year.
Speaker 8: Teams generally like to lock up these kind of players
Speaker 8: to long term, lucrative extensions, make sure they are taken
Speaker 8: care of, and move on from there.
Speaker 2: Andrews has been there.
Speaker 8: This was Mark Andrews several years ago before he signed
Speaker 8: a huge, huge deal right before the season now Andrews
Speaker 8: do eleven million dollars, No doubt he's going to have
Speaker 8: some trade value in a draft when there's not maybe
Speaker 8: a ton of really really good, high level tight end.
Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised based on what I'm hearing here, Mike,
Speaker 8: if some team does come in and making off with
Speaker 8: the Ravens can refuse, even though it is very clear
Speaker 8: Mark Andrews means a lot to them and they really
Speaker 8: really value the person on the player.
Speaker 3: I put Mark Andrews and Dallas Goddard in the same
Speaker 3: category right now, which is veteran tight ends coming to
Speaker 3: the back end of their deals, valuable to the team
Speaker 3: that they're currently on.
Speaker 4: But those teams are going to listen.
Speaker 3: And Howie Roseman today in Philadelphia basically said the same
Speaker 3: thing when asked about Dallas Goddard, which is, we've got
Speaker 3: to make separate decisions. We've got draft decisions to make,
Speaker 3: and we've got decisions with regard to the roster, and
Speaker 3: sometimes they're tough decisions, but they really Both of these
Speaker 3: guys were available at the start of the league year.
Speaker 2: Nothing materialized to that point.
Speaker 3: I would say neither one right now is imminent from
Speaker 3: my understanding. Could that change as we get closer to
Speaker 3: the draft? Could a lot of it depend on what
Speaker 3: these teams get in the draft, and say, Okay, we've
Speaker 3: got to circle back. We still have a need at
Speaker 3: tight end, we can use a little more firepower on
Speaker 3: offense or whatnot. Perhaps, uh so, we're just got to
Speaker 3: see how it plays out as of right now. Again,
Speaker 3: nothing in it with either one of these veteran tight ends.
Speaker 3: Who again, if they if their teams don't get back
Speaker 3: what they want in the trade, they're gonna hang on
Speaker 3: to them and keep them as part of the key
Speaker 3: part of their offense this year.
Speaker 1: And to your point, these are the types of trades
Speaker 1: that sometimes sometimes do get done during the draft as
Speaker 1: teams fill their needs or not. That draft begins in
Speaker 1: just nine days in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Let's give you
Speaker 1: some final thoughts on some of the top prospects.
Speaker 2: I say final, I mean for this show, not overall.
Speaker 2: We have another show tomorrow, but don't miss the end
Speaker 2: of this show.
Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the moment you want.
Speaker 2: It isn't me, But you can't take my rome.
Speaker 6: No one's pulling see and they gonna call me jing
Speaker 6: get it.
Speaker 2: Found work, Come with one man on me again.
Speaker 10: It's time to go to ball.
Speaker 4: The most time out of player.
Speaker 6: The college football touchdown.
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Speaker 2: Ian and I will be in Green Bay the entire
Speaker 2: week for the draft. Mike, where are you gonna be?
Speaker 2: Would you say they're in my ear? I didn't hear
Speaker 2: anything you said.
Speaker 4: What did you ask me a question?
Speaker 2: Where are you gonna be for the draft? Mike?
Speaker 3: The Draft Los Angeles be the NFL Network Studios with
Speaker 3: Steve Weisch. I think it's from one to four Eastern,
Speaker 3: ten to one Pacific leading into Day one and two
Speaker 3: of the draft Saturday morning.
Speaker 2: As well, thank you Tom for the question. There's your answer.
Speaker 2: What were they in your hear about it? Seems like
Speaker 2: it must have been important. I can't tell you they
Speaker 2: were talking about you.