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Speaker 1: We are just nine days out from the kickoff of

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Speaker 2: You are not going to want to miss that.

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Speaker 1: But let's start out with some news around the NFL,

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Speaker 1: and it began early this morning when Ian and I

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Speaker 1: Melkiper Junior's mock draft that you can find right now

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Speaker 1: What is your life like right now? What all is

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Speaker 4: We will see you there, Mellon.

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Speaker 6: It's everything, Mike, you had it.

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Speaker 7: He really is prepared, and I think being in that

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Speaker 6: So all that garbage about the circus. You don't want that.

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Speaker 6: There's no circus coming with Shador.

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Speaker 7: I think you might get four out of this group.

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Speaker 6: They're not all going to successful.

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Speaker 7: So I think the intriguing guy out of all this

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Speaker 6: That accuracy is an issue. Can it be fixed?

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Speaker 7: if you can fix that, the talent, as I said,

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Speaker 2: I wondered that about Milroe.

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Speaker 7: But I think when you look at Matthew Golden, he

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Speaker 6: Of the equation.

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Speaker 7: Let's just say true pure wide receiver only. Matthew Golden's

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Speaker 7: supposed to be others. It was him talk about making

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Speaker 6: He is ready to go. He gets great separation.

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Speaker 7: You don't have to throw into tight windows with guy

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Speaker 8: Now you mentioned Travis Hunter, I want to go back

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Speaker 7: I think he's spectacular both ways, and he hasn't even

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Speaker 7: may be okay over here. He was great at both spots.

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Speaker 7: And he was out there counting and the number of

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Speaker 7: as they say, two for the price of one. Dion

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Speaker 7: said it perfectly. He said, Oh, you're gonna be late

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Speaker 6: No, you cannot. So he's got to play both ways.

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Speaker 7: If you talk about what are the things you try

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Speaker 7: have any juice on offense, you know, everything electricity on offense.

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Speaker 6: You know they playmakers fear factor players and Cleveland.

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Speaker 7: Wide receiver catchup passes scoring touchdowns will be the focus.

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Speaker 7: latent games, what do most of these games come down

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Speaker 7: That's the way Travis Hunter I think will be utilized

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Speaker 3: Let's going to the running back position, mel because about

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Speaker 4: Again?

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Speaker 3: Well, we did, and we've seen plenty of them, and

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Speaker 3: we've seen the impact, and now we're back to Hey,

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Speaker 2: Back is sexy.

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Speaker 3: The running back is top ten, perhaps even top five

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Speaker 3: with Ashton gent I mean, it's not like the draft

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Speaker 7: Great question, Mike, because people say no because Philadelphia was

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Speaker 7: this stuff twenty some years ago, saying he shouldn't take

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Speaker 6: Talk about it. I destroyed.

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Speaker 7: And now it seems like I'm defending these running backs

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Speaker 6: Say, it was ridiculous. But now they're not saying that. Right.

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Speaker 7: But when you look at Ashton Genty and omari On Hampton,

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Speaker 6: I have a you know, Genty is four on the board.

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Speaker 7: I got Hampton's gonna end up probably around thirteen fourteen.

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Speaker 7: They're outstanding running backs. They're complete running backs right and

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Speaker 7: he'll be a nice second round pick, maybe to the Bears,

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Speaker 7: who have two picks at thirty nine and forty one.

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Speaker 7: But Genty is special and a Mario and Hampton is

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Speaker 7: Will he be a Denver Bronco. I think I'd be

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Speaker 7: They don't have a great running back there right now,

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Speaker 7: anything close to it. Hampton could be that guy. Well,

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Speaker 7: the Raiders who couldn't run the football, help out Geno

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Speaker 6: The offensive lineman Yo.

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Speaker 7: And if he gets to the Bears, I gotta believe

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Speaker 7: I get him both? Is there some way we can

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Speaker 7: get now you'll get one. Well, that'll be a tough

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Speaker 7: how it plays out. But I think both those running backs,

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Speaker 1: Mill Abdul Carter is the main name that we've heard

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Speaker 7: He's special, he could he should be ten to fifteen

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Speaker 7: Now he has the foot issue that he's dealing with.

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Speaker 7: They won't need surgery. But I think when you look

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Speaker 6: I have him like one a right behind Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 6: That's the thing.

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Speaker 7: You have Travis Hunter, who's generational because you'll never see

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Speaker 7: Shador drops down just a bit because even for me,

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Speaker 7: Abdul Carter's at two, Travis Hunters at one.

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Speaker 6: It's tough to pass when you're picking, you know, two.

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Speaker 7: Three, you got to get a guy above that when

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Speaker 7: New Orleans at nine is the spot.

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Speaker 6: I think.

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Speaker 7: Then you're getting the fifth best player at nine. That's

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Speaker 8: That is the craziest out of all time. I do

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Speaker 8: I want to talk historically about you. And I would

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Speaker 8: never ask you Mel to sing your own praises, but

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Speaker 8: sing your own praises for just a little bit. You've

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Speaker 8: been doing this a very long time you are the expert,

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Speaker 6: It's one that nobody will ever remember.

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Speaker 7: Nobody ever is gonna They're never gonna talk about it

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 6: It turned out pretty good. Right when they talked to

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Speaker 7: It, Hey, Melkkiper's back there. Well, Mel's right to his opinion.

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Speaker 7: We liked the players we drafted. We'll see what how

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Speaker 7: it all plays out, but we're really happy and everybody,

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Speaker 7: as an opinion, it went by the boards. Nobody made

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Speaker 7: no issue of it. Now, Rich Brooks was at Kiper's

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Speaker 7: and Eddiot he knows nothing about the draft. I don't

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Speaker 7: know why the hell he's on there.

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Speaker 6: He's a joke. Cut out all of it and made

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Speaker 6: an issue of it that way, then it.

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Speaker 7: Would have been always spotlighted, right, But it wasn't because

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Speaker 7: it wasn't commenting on that way, and it wasn't. The

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Speaker 7: answer wasn't what maybe a lot of people thought it

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Speaker 7: should be. So Rich Brooks handled a certain way and

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Speaker 7: it was forgotten. But going back over the years, that

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Speaker 7: was the worst one.

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Speaker 6: We're not going to talk.

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Speaker 7: I think you guys know the worst one. It's always

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Speaker 7: gonna punt me forever. But that's the way it goes.

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Speaker 7: But when you talk quarterbacks, but you're gonna have hit

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Speaker 7: or hits in this says, but that's the one. Like

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Speaker 7: I say, a couple of hits that, like I said,

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Speaker 7: nobody to this day whatever I remember pretty good.

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Speaker 2: How they will. We're a very popular program.

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Speaker 1: The last we arount of time, Tom, we used the last time,

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Speaker 1: last thing for email real quick. I thought you had

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Speaker 1: another question, Mike, last thing for Emal.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious about this.

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Speaker 1: I read one time, want me to Go that your

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Speaker 1: first contract at ESPN was worth four hundred dollars one

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Speaker 1: is that accurate? And in nineteen eighty four, with no email,

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Speaker 1: no cell phones, presumably you know, obviously no digital video

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Speaker 2: What were you doing? How did you do the job?

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Speaker 6: Well, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 7: That's a great question, because I had to make calls

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Speaker 7: to schools to get basic fundamental statistical information that you

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Speaker 7: had to have. I would be on the phone, well

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Speaker 7: my landline, which people don't have anymore. They'll do about

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Speaker 7: twenty to twenty eight hours a week just calling schools,

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Speaker 7: getting sacks, tackles for loss, you know, receptions, average per catch,

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Speaker 7: all the stats that you can get now at your fingertips.

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Speaker 7: I had a call and spend le say, twenty to

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Speaker 7: all of those conversations that you thought would be five

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Speaker 7: I got a lot of information I didn't anticipate getting.

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Speaker 7: That's why I tell kids, don't text, don't even call

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Speaker 7: and speak to somebody.

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Speaker 6: Develop relationships.

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Speaker 7: A lot of these sports information directors being great friends

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Speaker 7: of mine for thirty forty years guys.

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Speaker 6: So that's what I had to.

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Speaker 7: Do and had that big monster dish on the on

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Speaker 7: the roof and ramble Wood Road back in Baltimore, that

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Speaker 7: luckily our neighbors had no problem with because it was

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Speaker 7: a monster on that roof when nobody else had it.

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Speaker 7: So that really helped me immensely, and then making calls

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Speaker 7: and then working is I always say to kids, three words.

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Speaker 6: Should be on that T shirt with all these different

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Speaker 6: sayings you have.

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Speaker 7: The three words should be pay your dues and if

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Speaker 7: you had, if you attack it, you work hard. I

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Speaker 7: didn't know when the report started it would make a penny,

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Speaker 7: if it would be a business or not earning. Of

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Speaker 7: course it was a huge factor and encouraging me at

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Speaker 7: sixteen years of age. And then when he offered me

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Speaker 7: that position with the Colts in nineteen eighty three didn't

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Speaker 7: work out, but they said, hey, keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: Fans crave this information. Keep it going, and I think

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Speaker 7: you can be successful at it. So Ernie, of course

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Speaker 7: you thought enough about me not to bring me in

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Speaker 7: with him because he.

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Speaker 6: Thought he would be leaving. I said, what do you

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Speaker 6: want to do, Erne, keep doing what you're doing.

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Speaker 7: Five months later got to call him the ESPN to

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Speaker 7: go up an interview if it wasn't for Ernie, of course,

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Speaker 7: you guys, somebody else will be working at ESPN doing

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Speaker 7: that job. I would have been probably chicked to the

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Speaker 7: curb by the Colts because Ernie would have been gone,

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Speaker 7: and I don't know what the heck I would be

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Speaker 7: doing right now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, not to date you, but we all grew

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Speaker 1: up watching you on that NFL Draft. You're part of

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Speaker 1: the lived experience that we have as kids in parlay,

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Speaker 1: a big factor of what we do now. So make

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Speaker 1: sure that that iPhone you're keeping your desk that you

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Speaker 1: don't use, make sure that's charged before you get on

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Speaker 1: the plane into Green Bay.

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Speaker 2: We'll try to connect with you there. Man, appreciate you

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Speaker 2: being here.

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Speaker 6: Tommy and Mike appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Guys. Awesome, Thank you though NICs Budd.

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Speaker 1: Mel kiper junior part of the NFL Network ESPN Crossover.

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Speaker 1: He continues all this week. Kyle Brant saw him on

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Speaker 1: Sports Center earlier. Dangel Jeremiah's going to be on NFL Live.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna be ab to see field Yates here on

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Speaker 1: path to the draft as well, and so much more.

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Speaker 1: Stick around all week as we count down the final

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Speaker 1: nine days until pick number one goes on the clock

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Speaker 1: in green Bay, So dour Sanders probably not going to

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Speaker 1: go number one, but could he still come off the

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Speaker 1: board quickly? Next Thursday night, we'll get Baldy's impression of

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Speaker 1: the Shador Sanders stock right after this on the Insiders,

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Speaker 2: Today. Quarterbacks always drive at.

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Speaker 1: Least the narrative in these different NFL drafts, And according

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Speaker 1: to Bucky Brooks, he's in the same boat as mel

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Speaker 1: kiper Junior just had an awesome interview with us. He's

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Speaker 1: got Shador Sanders at number one, ahead of the presumptive

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Speaker 1: number one pick, cam Ward Jackson Dart among others. Time

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Speaker 1: now for count on It presented by Toro. We can

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Speaker 1: always count on our Brian Baldinger, who tonight, Baldi, I

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Speaker 1: want you to break down Shador Sanders. You just heard

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Speaker 1: mel not taking a breath, not putting a period on

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Speaker 1: the sens is he can roll man, He's a big

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Speaker 1: Shador Sanders fan. Tell me what you see and the

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Speaker 1: potential fits for Shador.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I'm gonna take a breath here a little

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Speaker 9: bit unlike now. But Mel hit on a lot of

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Speaker 9: good points here.

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Speaker 4: Tom.

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Speaker 9: The thing that's interesting because I was at the pro

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Speaker 9: day that the Giants and Cleveland a lot of teams

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Speaker 9: attended back on April fourth, so eleven days ago, and

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Speaker 9: you know, in talking to Pat Shermer, his offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 9: this was the fifth offense that Shadur has learned. And

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Speaker 9: the reason why he installed the offense, which, by the way,

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Speaker 9: is you see a carbon copy of what Chip Kelly

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Speaker 9: ran at Oregon. In Philadelphia. It's four wide receivers, you

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Speaker 9: have your inside receivers, your outside receivers, your quarterbacks that

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Speaker 9: have shot down with the running back. Because his best

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Speaker 9: five players with Shador in the four receivers, including you

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Speaker 9: know le Chante Western and.

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Speaker 2: You know Travis Hunter, Diricks, et cetera.

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Speaker 9: But they install this offense because that was the best

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Speaker 9: way to move the ball.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't the best for Shador.

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Speaker 9: It wasn't the best for protection max protection going through

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Speaker 9: progressions because what teams saw was short edges, a poor

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Speaker 9: offensive line and Shador basically having the maneuver and get

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Speaker 9: the ball on his hands. Because he wasn't the most

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Speaker 9: blitzed quarterback in the country, but I think he was

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Speaker 9: as Max blitzed a quarterback to his doors. And you

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Speaker 9: don't see Max blitz is in college. You don't see

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Speaker 9: blitzerials in college like you do from Steve Spagnola, like

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Speaker 9: you do in the NFL. You just because the offenses

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Speaker 9: are spread, the safeties are back, don't get informations where

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Speaker 9: you can Max blitz very often. But Chador saw it,

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Speaker 9: and he actually did really good against Max blitzes where

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Speaker 9: he identified it number one pre.

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Speaker 10: Snap and then number two.

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Speaker 2: He knew where he was going with the ball.

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Speaker 9: And so I think when you evaluate Shador like he's

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Speaker 9: got an incredibly accurate deep ball, a lot of deep

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Speaker 9: balls against these blitzes. He just held onto the ball

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Speaker 9: as long as he could and then let it fly,

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Speaker 9: let his receivers go get it for some big plays.

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Speaker 10: And then the other thing was that guy will throw

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Speaker 10: it from a dirty pocket.

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Speaker 9: Tone you want to chest his toughness, you want to

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Speaker 9: test you know what kind of armor he has. He's

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Speaker 9: no problem staying in there looking down at you know,

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Speaker 9: proverbial gun barrel and delivering a ball like he is

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Speaker 9: very tough, and he's very patient with the ball, waits

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Speaker 9: for his receivers, you know, before they can break and

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Speaker 9: get it out. There's a lot of things to like

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Speaker 9: about him. One of the reasons why Bucky has them

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Speaker 9: number one, Meil has them number one. Some of these

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Speaker 9: intangibles against the blitz of what you really like about

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Speaker 9: him right now to stage.

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Speaker 1: Nine more days till the NFL Draft, Probably a lot

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Speaker 1: more baldy in that span as well.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate you being here, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Also could be nine, ten eleven days until we get

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Speaker 1: answers on the future of Jalen Ramsey, who appears to

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Speaker 1: be on his way out in Miami. Hear what Chris

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Speaker 1: Greer had to say today about why Miami plans to

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Speaker 1: move on from a seven time Pro Bowl corner. Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ramsey and the Dolphins have mutually agreed to explore trade options,

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Speaker 1: as Ian and I reported this morning, and as confirmed

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Speaker 1: later by general manager Chris Greer, who explained how things

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Speaker 1: got to this point where the sides are going to

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Speaker 1: explore trade.

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Speaker 11: After a couple of weeks of discussions between ourselves internally

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Speaker 11: and Jalen and his representation, we decided that it was

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Speaker 11: probably the best interest for all parties to move forward.

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Speaker 11: So I will say these decisions aren't done quickly and

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Speaker 11: they're not taken lightly, because we spent a lot of

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Speaker 11: time this offseason working through this, talking through things. At

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Speaker 11: the end of the day, Jalen did not ask for

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Speaker 11: a trade, so we went through the process and I

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Speaker 11: just felt that after numerous conversations and then talking last

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Speaker 11: week with Jalen and his agent, that it was best

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Speaker 11: to move forward and it was the best interest of

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Speaker 11: the Miami Dolphins and for Jalen Ramsey.

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Speaker 1: And not a lot of occasions when a seven time

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl corner suddenly becomes at least publicly available nine

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Speaker 1: days out from the NFL drafted. Here we are with

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Speaker 1: a player who just last August got paid on a

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Speaker 1: new top of market contract.

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Speaker 2: How do we get here? And where do you see

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Speaker 2: it going?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I knew mega contract for Jalen Ramsey just one year later.

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Speaker 4: Now essentially here we are.

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Speaker 8: It feels like Tom, the best way to sum this

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Speaker 8: up is this relationship.

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Speaker 4: Has run its course, right. I mean, it was kind.

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Speaker 8: Of a whirlwind romance if you would describe it like that,

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Speaker 8: A big time trade, which a great fanfare from the

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Speaker 8: Los challenge just Rams who also acquired Ramsey in a

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Speaker 8: big trade. It's a great fan for had a ton

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Speaker 8: of success. Ramsey one of the best players in the

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Speaker 8: NFL over the course of the last decade at his position,

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Speaker 8: showed up there. Unfortunately got injured, but really was an

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Speaker 8: incredible person in that team during the time of his injury.

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Speaker 8: Ended up getting healthy, got that huge new deal. Fast

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Speaker 8: forward a year and after several meetings, after several conversations,

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Speaker 8: the determination was made. But Ramsey and his people and

660
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 8: the Dolphins and their people to move forward it and

661
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 8: try to seek a trade. Now, there's no guarantee that

662
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 8: Ramsey will be traded, as Chris gear said, if he's

663
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 8: not traded, they'll.

664
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Speaker 4: Figure it out.

665
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 8: He's do twenty five million dollars fully guaranteed. Four has

666
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 8: already been paid.

667
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,760
Speaker 10: Acquiring them.

668
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 8: Would only only acquired twenty one million dollars fully guaranteed.

669
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Speaker 4: But surely there is at least going to be a market.

670
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: Only twenty one million dollar. Let me see what I

671
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: got here? Only only twenty one minute.

672
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Speaker 4: No, I don't get it.

673
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 3: Then there, Sorry, so I got Meanwhile, Tyreek Hill would

674
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 3: only cost two first round picks if you're looking to

675
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 3: trade for him. That's what Chris Greer said today when

676
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: he was asked about Hill. He said, if someone's willing

677
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 3: to trade me too first round picks. Nobody's willing to

678
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 3: do that. So translation, he's not trading him, not expecting

679
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 3: you'd have to be blown away, completely blown away. So look,

680
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 3: it's been sort of a roller roller coaster. It started

681
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: with Hill basically saying that he wanted out. Then they

682
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 3: had conversation with the front office and they backed it down.

683
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: Then there were some tweets after that, if I'm not

684
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: mistaken where some folks were reading into it.

685
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: Well, here we are with Chris Greer saying.

686
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Speaker 3: This guy still got it. He's not going anywhere. He's

687
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: a big part of what we do. Are we done

688
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: on this roller coaster?

689
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 4: I don't know.

690
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: I guess you never really know what this kind of stuff.

691
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: So we'll see where it goes from here. But for

692
00:29:57,800 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 3: right now, the Dolphins and Chris Greer plan on having

693
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: Tyreek Hill part of the mix in twenty twenty.

694
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: Five, and Greer also sort of bucked back at the

695
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 1: idea that this is a rebuild. Keeping Tyreek Hill certainly

696
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: would indicate that they're still trying to win right now,

697
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: but some big decisions for them to make any NFL draft,

698
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: which begins in just nine days.

699
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 12: Thank God, the.

700
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 10: Wrong again, Oh God, goodness.

701
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 13: Whatever gets in the heart and runner indeed strong cat

702
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 13: for sure, IRV Mulligan and he wanted it. And now

703
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 13: we're joined by that man, IRV Mulligan, someone who can

704
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 13: be mentioned in the same breath as Pro Football Hall

705
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 13: of Famer Walter Payton.

706
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: We'll get to that a little bit later on RV.

707
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 13: But how's everything going When you sit there and you

708
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 13: watch that tape of you scoring and you're finding your

709
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 13: at Jack and State, how does that feel now that

710
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 13: everything's kind of coming full circle?

711
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, it's a blessing. Man.

712
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 12: It's just not the soaking because this the momentum way

713
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,040
Speaker 12: and fall since you was like a kid. So to

714
00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 12: see it all come true and all it like you know,

715
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 12: revealing itself is it's just something.

716
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 10: That you you'll never forget. Man.

717
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 12: So it's like just trusting the process. That's what we

718
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,800
Speaker 12: was always saw. So just trusting the process and sticking

719
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 12: with the process, Man, is the fun part about it.

720
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 12: So when the time actually come and were back playing football,

721
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 12: that'd be the glory, that'll be the fruit to our libor.

722
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 12: But I'm just enjoying the process right now. This is

723
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 12: a dream come true, So I'm grateful.

724
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 13: Well that's great, So let's walk back a little bit

725
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 13: for the process. For folks who don't know about what

726
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 13: you did at Jackson State this year. Twelve hundred and

727
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 13: forty five yards, thirteen touchdowns, You enter the record books,

728
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 13: you're the Southwestern Athletic Conference Offensive Player.

729
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 4: Of the Year, all of these accolades.

730
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 13: Right, So you talk about the process, But next week

731
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 13: is the NFL Draft, where you can land either during.

732
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: The draft or after the draft on an NFL roster.

733
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 13: Right, you talk about this process, what exactly has gone

734
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 13: into it for you?

735
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 12: It's a lot of things that's going to First, you

736
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 12: got to start with your you know, your collegiate career.

737
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 10: That's where you set to your strongest foundation.

738
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 12: That so to be able to perform on a collegiate

739
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 12: career and your collegiate.

740
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 10: Level, that's where it starts at.

741
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 12: So to leave a legacy to beat Walter Penning records,

742
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 12: you know, to get a notoriety, to be in a

743
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 12: conversation with a legend and a great like him, it

744
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 12: is you know, I'm great for the lessons. So for

745
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 12: me to just continue to train and go through the process,

746
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,240
Speaker 12: like I said, to get to that next level is

747
00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 12: just amazing, man.

748
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 10: And you know, there's a.

749
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 12: Lot of guys and a lot of people counting us

750
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 12: to you know, join their team, to be pros and

751
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 12: do a lot of the same things those greats that

752
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 12: left the blueprint behind for us to do. So that's

753
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 12: what I'm excited most about, to join the team, to

754
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 12: join the legacy or guys that already been that way

755
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 12: before me I left, you know, a trail of great things.

756
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 12: So I just want to join like any team, become

757
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 12: a pro and do the same thing those guys did.

758
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,840
Speaker 13: Sorry, if you talking about that legacy, you're wearing a

759
00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 13: shirt that says the all HBCU Legacy. Ball was, you know,

760
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 13: the big showcase for players from historically black colleges and universities.

761
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: You got to.

762
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 13: Speak to a ton of teams down there and they

763
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 13: got to speak to you. What were some of the

764
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 13: questions the things that they were curious about. Knowing that

765
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,480
Speaker 13: you're coming in after such a highlight type of season.

766
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 12: Yes, sir, Well, the main question is, you know, every

767
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 12: team want to know what type of guy or the game.

768
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 12: So the main thing was, how are you different than

769
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 12: the rest of the backs out there? Well, like I

770
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 12: tell them, for one, my mentality, I don't think it's

771
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 12: no back out there really, like, you know, with the

772
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 12: mentality I got, with the grid I got in, you know,

773
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 12: the chip I got my shoulder and too, like I'm

774
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 12: my IQ, Like I'm just.

775
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 10: As smart as a quarterbacks. So like a lot of

776
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 10: guys forget that part of the game.

777
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 12: Like it's you know, eighty percent mental, twenty percent physical

778
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 12: in my mind, so my ability to read defenses and

779
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 12: you know, out smart defenses. And like on this one

780
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 12: touchdown run in the SWIT Championship game, it was an

781
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 12: inside run. I turned it to an outside run, you know,

782
00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 12: just because of my IQ. I know the whole defense

783
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 12: cross the middle. It's just the small simple things, you know,

784
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 12: coming from like a small school and you know, coming

785
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 12: from Walford, which is also a small school, so I always.

786
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 10: Bank on my IQ. You know.

787
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 12: So that's one thing that definitely separates me from that

788
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 12: was the one question you wanted to know.

789
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 13: I love hearing that because you're talking about your IQ.

790
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 13: Because we see the physical specs, right five ten about

791
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:25,439
Speaker 13: two oh five four five forty you average about six

792
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 13: point five yards per carry throughout your college career. Even

793
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 13: though a lot of the video we're senior power runs.

794
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 13: You've got the breakaway ability. So how about this. We

795
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 13: know this is an incredibly deep running back group coming

796
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 13: into the draft, but when you hear and see things

797
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 13: about guys like ashing Gent and scatter Bow and guys

798
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 13: like that, how do you compare yourself to them? Because

799
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 13: you have some of the same physical specs.

800
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 4: Just as good as numbers. What's your comparison line?

801
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 10: Well, this this what I'll say. If you put the

802
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 10: and an.

803
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 12: Astra genty spot or one of those guys spout when

804
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,240
Speaker 12: where they have the so called e lead officer lines,

805
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 12: the lead training, the nutrition, and the lead coaching. You

806
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 12: put me in a position like that while I'm getting

807
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 12: thirty twenty something carries a game and steve my results

808
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 12: and see what I do. So the comparison, yeah, we

809
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 12: all you know got the pro type for seek. But

810
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,520
Speaker 12: I feel like if you put me in those shoes,

811
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 12: I would excel way better. I would have did way

812
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 12: more so. And if you pay attention, I only had

813
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 12: eighteen carries for game this year, not too many games

814
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 12: more where I had more or less. So those guys

815
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 12: getting all the twenty five to thirty carries, so you

816
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 12: put that much, put the butt in my hand that much,

817
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,439
Speaker 12: you can see some amazing things. So those guys got

818
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 12: some great games.

819
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 10: You know. I love their game.

820
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 12: They got like a lot of similar downhill their physical

821
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 12: you know, but my home run speed is a little different.

822
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 12: When I take off, I really take off. So I

823
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 12: would say the physical point, yeah, you can compare us,

824
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 12: but like the speed in my IQ. That's that's why

825
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 12: I separated myself, all.

826
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 4: Right, all right, I love hearing that.

827
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 13: Look, we started off this conversation or of talking about

828
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 13: Walter Payton, one of the greatest players ever in the

829
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 13: NFL history, Black.

830
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: College football history.

831
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 13: You broke a single season rushing record this season at

832
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 13: Jackson State, and.

833
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,879
Speaker 4: You talked about it a little bit.

834
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 13: But being mentioned in the same breath as him, the

835
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 13: legacy he's left at Jackson State in the NFL.

836
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: Has that really sunk in yet to you?

837
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 13: That you have had a better season than one of

838
00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 13: the greatest players ever at any level of football.

839
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 12: You know, it's so crazy how many people remind me

840
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 12: of it, but it's like I haven't yet, like really

841
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 12: sat there, like you know, process it all, like I really,

842
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 12: it really haven't hit me yet.

843
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 10: And then that's one that's my idol.

844
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 12: You know, if any running back out there or have

845
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 12: played the game, that's the guy I watched the most

846
00:36:58,040 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 12: and guy I studied the most, so you know, just

847
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 12: me admire him and just saying I was gonna break

848
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 12: his record and actually doing it.

849
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:07,600
Speaker 10: It feels good.

850
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 12: But I don't think until it's time for somebody else

851
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 12: to you know, break the rector next or close to

852
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 12: break and the director or thirty you know, twenty years

853
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 12: down the line. I feel like that's what I feel.

854
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 12: It didn't but he still wants the paying and I'm

855
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 12: still every Mulligan. So when I become, you know, the

856
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 12: caliber guy he was, then I feel like, yeah, yeah,

857
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:28,319
Speaker 12: hit me, then hit me.

858
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 4: Then I love his sweetness. Two point oh IRV.

859
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 13: Mulligan Jackson State point Oh, appreciate you man, thanks for

860
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 13: taking the time and all the best.

861
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 10: Yes, sir, love.

862
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: No Mulligan's needed for our Steve Whites doing that interview

863
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: with IRV Mulligan coming up after this, as Mark Andrews

864
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 1: played his last down in Baltimore. Here what Eric the

865
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: Costa the GM had to say today. That's next on

866
00:37:53,480 --> 00:38:03,759
Speaker 1: the Insiders. Mark Andrews surely would like to forget the

867
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: final play of his twenty twenty four season. Could this

868
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: drop two point conversion also have been the last play

869
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,359
Speaker 1: of Andrews Ravens career. There's what GM Eric DaCosta had

870
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 1: to say today about the team's plans at tight end.

871
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 6: I never know what's gonna happen.

872
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 14: Yeah, and I would never want to say this with that,

873
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 14: you know, but I can tell you this, Mark Andrews

874
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 14: is a warrior and he's played his butt off for

875
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 14: us and his competitiveness, his talent, his attitude, his leadership

876
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 14: is so valued here and he's a great player. And

877
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 14: I think we're in the business of keeping as many

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Speaker 14: great players as we can. I just think it depends

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Speaker 14: on the player, Like there are some really good players

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Speaker 14: in this same could be said about the running back

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Speaker 14: position as well, and we've talked about that, you know,

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Speaker 14: we talk about these things all the time, and the

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Speaker 14: reality of it is is if there's like a tight

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Speaker 14: end that we think is a blue chip tight end

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Speaker 14: to a running back that we think is a blue

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Speaker 14: chip running back, We're going to take them.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Insiders.

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Speaker 1: Tom Pilasero, Ian Rapaport, Mike Garrofolo Ian Mark Andrews do

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Speaker 1: eleven million dollars this season, already collected a four million

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Speaker 1: dollars roster bonus. When you listen Eric Tacosta Tho talking

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Speaker 1: about Andrews's future, what do you make But.

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Speaker 8: I may of it that it is very very much

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00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 8: up in the air. And you know, jams talk about

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Speaker 8: balls being in the air right And the reason they

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Speaker 8: say that is because a lot of things that could happen.

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Speaker 8: You have Isaiah likely really good young player, merging young

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Speaker 8: player who Win Andrews was not in the field, looked

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Speaker 8: like a number one tight end going to make just.

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Speaker 4: Three million dollars next year.

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Speaker 8: Teams generally like to lock up these kind of players

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Speaker 8: to long term, lucrative extensions, make sure they are taken

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Speaker 8: care of, and move on from there.

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Speaker 2: Andrews has been there.

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Speaker 8: This was Mark Andrews several years ago before he signed

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Speaker 8: a huge, huge deal right before the season now Andrews

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Speaker 8: do eleven million dollars, No doubt he's going to have

907
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Speaker 8: some trade value in a draft when there's not maybe

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Speaker 8: a ton of really really good, high level tight end.

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Speaker 8: I wouldn't be surprised based on what I'm hearing here, Mike,

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Speaker 8: if some team does come in and making off with

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Speaker 8: the Ravens can refuse, even though it is very clear

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Speaker 8: Mark Andrews means a lot to them and they really

913
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Speaker 8: really value the person on the player.

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Speaker 3: I put Mark Andrews and Dallas Goddard in the same

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Speaker 3: category right now, which is veteran tight ends coming to

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Speaker 3: the back end of their deals, valuable to the team

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Speaker 3: that they're currently on.

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Speaker 4: But those teams are going to listen.

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Speaker 3: And Howie Roseman today in Philadelphia basically said the same

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Speaker 3: thing when asked about Dallas Goddard, which is, we've got

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Speaker 3: to make separate decisions. We've got draft decisions to make,

922
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Speaker 3: and we've got decisions with regard to the roster, and

923
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Speaker 3: sometimes they're tough decisions, but they really Both of these

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Speaker 3: guys were available at the start of the league year.

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Speaker 2: Nothing materialized to that point.

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Speaker 3: I would say neither one right now is imminent from

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Speaker 3: my understanding. Could that change as we get closer to

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Speaker 3: the draft? Could a lot of it depend on what

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Speaker 3: these teams get in the draft, and say, Okay, we've

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Speaker 3: got to circle back. We still have a need at

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Speaker 3: tight end, we can use a little more firepower on

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Speaker 3: offense or whatnot. Perhaps, uh so, we're just got to

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Speaker 3: see how it plays out as of right now. Again,

934
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Speaker 3: nothing in it with either one of these veteran tight ends.

935
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Speaker 3: Who again, if they if their teams don't get back

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Speaker 3: what they want in the trade, they're gonna hang on

937
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Speaker 3: to them and keep them as part of the key

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Speaker 3: part of their offense this year.

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Speaker 1: And to your point, these are the types of trades

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Speaker 1: that sometimes sometimes do get done during the draft as

941
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Speaker 1: teams fill their needs or not. That draft begins in

942
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Speaker 1: just nine days in Green Bay, Wisconsin. Let's give you

943
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Speaker 1: some final thoughts on some of the top prospects.

944
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Speaker 2: I say final, I mean for this show, not overall.

945
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Speaker 2: We have another show tomorrow, but don't miss the end

946
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Speaker 2: of this show.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is the moment you want.

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Speaker 2: It isn't me, But you can't take my rome.

949
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Speaker 6: No one's pulling see and they gonna call me jing

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Speaker 6: get it.

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Speaker 2: Found work, Come with one man on me again.

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Speaker 10: It's time to go to ball.

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Speaker 4: The most time out of player.

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Speaker 6: The college football touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Ass the Jet D want to run for ass The

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Speaker 2: Jet D touchdown?

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Speaker 9: What a thrown by had More Another Big Moments, Big

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Speaker 9: Corner Rangers goes lowering into the episode Touchdown Touchdown Colorado.

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Speaker 9: Fo my Mabians, they came shootour touchdown Touchdown Colorado.

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Speaker 1: slash Draft Access today and also watched the draft here

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Speaker 1: on NFL Network.

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Speaker 2: Ian and I will be in Green Bay the entire

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Speaker 2: week for the draft. Mike, where are you gonna be?

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Speaker 2: Would you say they're in my ear? I didn't hear

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Speaker 2: anything you said.

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Speaker 4: What did you ask me a question?

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Speaker 2: Where are you gonna be for the draft? Mike?

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Speaker 3: The Draft Los Angeles be the NFL Network Studios with

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Speaker 3: Steve Weisch. I think it's from one to four Eastern,

974
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Speaker 3: ten to one Pacific leading into Day one and two

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Speaker 3: of the draft Saturday morning.

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Speaker 2: As well, thank you Tom for the question. There's your answer.

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Speaker 2: What were they in your hear about it? Seems like

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Speaker 2: it must have been important. I can't tell you they

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Speaker 2: were talking about you.