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Speaker 1: All right, welcome man. Late Kick is live. It is

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Speaker 1: March fifth. It's been a little while year of our

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Speaker 1: Lawyer twenty twenty. Happy to have you with us, same

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Speaker 1: basic look, same channel title, new channel location, and I'll

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Speaker 1: explain all that at the end of the show. In

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Speaker 1: the meantime, we got a lot to talk about. Springball

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Speaker 1: this time last year is when we originally started this

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Speaker 1: show independently. Now we're under a much bigger umbrella, which,

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Speaker 1: fortunately for you and myself, gives us a whole lot

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Speaker 1: more resources and intel to play with, and we're going

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Speaker 1: to leverage that and harness that to our fullest EXCT.

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Speaker 1: So tonight I'm going to talk a little bit, maybe

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Speaker 1: from a different angle, about a story you've probably been following,

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Speaker 1: which is, of course Nick Saban, Scott Cochran, that whole deal.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to hit some LSU rumors, Intel, a little

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Speaker 1: bit of rumblings down there as they get set to

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Speaker 1: open Springball. I'm going to kick it over to Columbia,

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, and I'm going to probably agree in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty March of twenty twenty with what you guys were

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Speaker 1: saying this time last year. So March of twenty nineteen

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Speaker 1: got a lot of reasons for that. So we'll get

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Speaker 1: of detail what's happened over the last month, how in

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Speaker 1: and what is to come here spoiler alert, A lot

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Speaker 1: of really really good things. So let's get into it today.

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Speaker 1: You probably woke up this morning, and yeah, probably if

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Speaker 1: for college football, you were one eye open, kind of

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to read it to you, because that's

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Speaker 1: what you have your own computer for. But John Talty

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Speaker 1: and Matt Zenitz do a really good job covering Alabama

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Speaker 1: and so we don't really waste time a whole lot

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Speaker 1: come to notice. But when there's good work out there,

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Speaker 1: and there's good sourcing very thorough and vetted properly, we

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Speaker 1: if you have a life, in other words, and you

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Speaker 1: haven't been following this. In February, long time strengthen condition

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Speaker 1: to coach for Alabama, Scott Cochran moves on Kirby Smart

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Speaker 1: than three times seeking that role. Again. More on that

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Speaker 1: Regardless of what happened between ole Miss and Cochrane, it

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Speaker 1: What it means is Scott Cochrane was no longer going

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Speaker 1: But you're high on bath salts if you don't think that.

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Speaker 1: Nick Saban didn't take a long hard look at his

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Speaker 1: fat new sports science center. Nick Saban made sure in

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Speaker 1: and you know, we're sitting in Hoover, Alabama, and here

427
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Speaker 1: comes at Orzaron and he's talking about how you know,

428
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Speaker 1: he's not smiling, he's not laughing, he's just kind of

429
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Speaker 1: matter of fact saying, I mean, we're committed to this.

430
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,440
Speaker 1: You know, he was joking around saying I've seen the playbook.

431
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 1: There's a lot of four and five wide in there,

432
00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:08,200
Speaker 1: and everyone kind of he this, look at this swamp creature.

433
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Speaker 1: What in the world are you talking about? You know,

434
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Speaker 1: By the way, the same ones who kind of in

435
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 1: around about way mocked him in the offseason were the

436
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Speaker 1: same ones writing the articles at the end of the

437
00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 1: season wagging their finger at the rest of the college

438
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 1: football world, knowing that they were wagging their finger at

439
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 1: the very thing they were guilty of. And that is

440
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: basically thinking, a dude who talks like this can't outsmart

441
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:31,040
Speaker 1: the sport. Well, all editors Ron did was not outsmart

442
00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: the sport. What he did was he hired people to

443
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 1: outsmart the sport, and then he was smart enough to

444
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: get out of the way. There are a lot of

445
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Speaker 1: other coaches, one of whom we're going to talk about

446
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,480
Speaker 1: before the show's over tonight, who maybe need to take

447
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: a page out of the Editor's round playbook and wash

448
00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: those hands, say you guys, got it, and leave the

449
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Speaker 1: room and go find something else to do. So that's

450
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Speaker 1: what Edwards Ron in LSU did last year. A lot

451
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: of people didn't buy in until midway through the season

452
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Speaker 1: last year. And I listen, I'm not here to do

453
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Speaker 1: that because we'll be wrong all the time. With our

454
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Speaker 1: predictions too. But one of the overarching themes always on

455
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Speaker 1: this show. You'll hear me say it probably a dozen

456
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Speaker 1: or more times over the span of the summer. As

457
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Speaker 1: we get towards media days and then all the preview

458
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Speaker 1: magazines come out, then it's prediction time is don't get

459
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Speaker 1: married to your spring and summer predictions. Don't get married

460
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Speaker 1: to them. In fact, if you've got a pen in

461
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: your hand, just chuck it over the shoulder and then

462
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Speaker 1: pick up a pencil, one of those pencils that have

463
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Speaker 1: like the football helmets on the side of them. You

464
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 1: know where the lead is really light and you gotta

465
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Speaker 1: press down hard. Don't press down hard, press down really

466
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Speaker 1: really light. You can write your predictions out. That's all

467
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 1: I want to good. That's fun. Everyone does it, but

468
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Speaker 1: write it in really really light pencil. Because you got

469
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Speaker 1: to be ready for opinions that you've held for four

470
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Speaker 1: or five months in the off season. You got to

471
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Speaker 1: be ready to erase them like two quarters into the

472
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Speaker 1: regular season, because football is really what tells you what

473
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Speaker 1: the season is going to be about. It's not a magazine,

474
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Speaker 1: it's not a press conference, it's not all this stuff

475
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Speaker 1: that people really think they understand more than the game,

476
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Speaker 1: and in some cases they're right up to and including

477
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Speaker 1: some people who cover this game. But we find out

478
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Speaker 1: during the season, well that's what happened with LSU last year. Well,

479
00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: now a lot of people are trying to overthink the

480
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Speaker 1: room on LSU. You probably either have heard what I'm

481
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Speaker 1: about to read a list of or you probably maybe

482
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Speaker 1: potentially could be thinking it yourself. I'm not telling you

483
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Speaker 1: you're wrong. I'm telling you I'm not necessarily buying into

484
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Speaker 1: all this. Now here's what we have to buy into.

485
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Speaker 1: We have to buy into the idea that LSU's got

486
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Speaker 1: to replace a lot of starters. All the successful teams do.

487
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Speaker 1: Unless you're Clemson, then they keep guys on campus like

488
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Speaker 1: a decade. But unless you're Clemson, everybody does that. Everybody

489
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Speaker 1: goes through that. Now LSU may be going through it

490
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Speaker 1: to a pretty violent degree this year. But yeah, they're

491
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Speaker 1: gonna have to replace a lot of guys. They're gonna

492
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Speaker 1: have to replace a Heisman Trophy winner at quarterback. They're

493
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Speaker 1: gonna have a giant target on their back. You could

494
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Speaker 1: have a hangover in effect. There we are standing in

495
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Speaker 1: the corner right there, perfectly timed Colin, well done. Listen,

496
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Speaker 1: all the stuff's in play. I'm not arguing with you.

497
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Speaker 1: Here's what I want to know. What I want to

498
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Speaker 1: know is just as this team at every turn last

499
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 1: year broke conventional wisdom over its collective knee and beat

500
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Speaker 1: the sport over the head with it, I want to know,

501
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 1: was that a twenty nineteen thing or is that an

502
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 1: LSU thing? Because if it's an LSU thing, then all

503
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Speaker 1: the hype and all the internal confidence that you're hearing

504
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 1: right now bubbling up collectively from Baton Rouge out of

505
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Speaker 1: the mouths of people that we trust around the program,

506
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Speaker 1: but also Ed Orsron has not been bashful about touting

507
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Speaker 1: Miles Brennan as the unquestioned not only starting quarterback of

508
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Speaker 1: this program, but a leader of this program. If all

509
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,879
Speaker 1: this is accurate, and it's not just coach speak, and

510
00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 1: it's not just message boards fodder, you may be looking

511
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Speaker 1: at a transition culturally to a program that's capable of

512
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Speaker 1: doing what their neighbors in Tuscalaloose have been doing for

513
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 1: about a decade plus now, and that's losing a bunch

514
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Speaker 1: of guys. They can lose a star quarterback and then

515
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,360
Speaker 1: they just hit the reload button. Why can't this team

516
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Speaker 1: do that? I know they don't have the decade long

517
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:06,000
Speaker 1: established track record, but the thing about it is they

518
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: didn't have it last year either, and that didn't stop

519
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Speaker 1: them from just crucifying Oklahoma like it was backyard, it

520
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: was street ball, but that was actually a college football

521
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: playoff game, and then handling Clemson after getting down early,

522
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 1: handling Clemson in the National Championship Game. It didn't stand

523
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Speaker 1: in their way last year. And so all of our intel,

524
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,400
Speaker 1: and we talked to quite a few people down there,

525
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Speaker 1: all our intel suggest everything that's being said about Miles

526
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 1: Brennan right now is legitimate. No one strapped it up yet.

527
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: That guy's not taken meaningful snaps as the starting quarterback

528
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Speaker 1: of LSU. You don't have to tell me this. You

529
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: don't have to light to chat up in the comment section.

530
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Speaker 1: Up with that? Do it? Just not with that? I

531
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Speaker 1: know all that, guys, you don't have to tell me

532
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: anything that I already know. But let's talk about what

533
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: we don't know about. We're going to find out what

534
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: will he be as a starting quarterback? Now, I want

535
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 1: you to look at the helmet. You see the LSU helmet.

536
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Speaker 1: And in a lot of cases, this is the way

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Speaker 1: a lot of folks' minds work. You think of a helmet,

538
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Speaker 1: you think of a reputation. So I say, Miles Brennan,

539
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: you think of the LSU helmet, and you think of

540
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 1: the reputation of LSU offense. And one year does not

541
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Speaker 1: a reputation make now even I will acknowledge that. So,

542
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: just as easy as it is to remember what's freshest

543
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: in your mind being twenty nineteen, you also remember twenty

544
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: eighteen when they were getting shut out with Joe Burrow

545
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: at quarterback against Alabama, and seventeen sixteen, fifteen, and LSU

546
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: had been mired in mediocrity at best, with a bunch

547
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: of really really good players that had to wait to

548
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Speaker 1: get in the NFL to maximize their collective potential. And

549
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:36,240
Speaker 1: so now everyone wonders, Okay, well you had Burrow last year.

550
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: Maybe he was just a generational guy who's going to be,

551
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Speaker 1: in all likelihood the first pick in the NFL draft. Well,

552
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,159
Speaker 1: here's what the thinking is at LSU, and here's kind

553
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,959
Speaker 1: of what I make it analogous to. I'm a big

554
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Speaker 1: believer in metaphorical speaking. Here, Roger Banister was the first

555
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Speaker 1: guy to run a sub four minute mile. Up until

556
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Speaker 1: he did it, everyone just assumed that's not humanly possible.

557
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: I mean, a sub four minute mile, you need machinery

558
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Speaker 1: to do that. And so for a lot, a long

559
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 1: long time, at least in documented history, nobody ran a

560
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Speaker 1: sub four minute mile. Then Roger Banister, Roja Banasta, he

561
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: ran a four minute mile, sub four actually, And guess

562
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 1: what happened after Roger Banister ran his sub four minute mile.

563
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: Then this dude did it, and that dude did it,

564
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,879
Speaker 1: and that dude did it, and all that changed was

565
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: someone showed that it was possible. Now, I want you

566
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Speaker 1: to put yourself in the shoes of Miles Brennan. He's

567
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: not a true freshman. He was on campus last year.

568
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Speaker 1: He was there last year. He sat there just like

569
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: you and I did, but he had a different vantage

570
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,359
Speaker 1: point and he watched a revolution happen right before his eyes.

571
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 1: He now steps in to fill the shoes of starting

572
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Speaker 1: quarterback at LSU, But he's not stepping in trying to

573
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Speaker 1: do what no one's ever done down there. He's stepping

574
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Speaker 1: in and he's seen it done, and those wide receivers

575
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: have seen it done, and the grad assistants there have

576
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 1: seen it done. The entire culture last year changed in

577
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Speaker 1: Baton Rouge, and so what once was thought to be

578
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 1: impossible has now been shown to be very possible. Now,

579
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Speaker 1: is it duplicable for the folks who came after Roger Banister?

580
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 1: It was? And I think right now a lot of

581
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Speaker 1: folks are looking at all these cons having to replace

582
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Speaker 1: all the starters, new quarterback, new offense. False, But that's

583
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Speaker 1: what is going to be alleged new offense. Target on

584
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: your back, could be a letdown season, could get complacent,

585
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: and you're going to look at all that stuff, and

586
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: you may allow yourself to overthink the room. And all

587
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to look at is the potential that a

588
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: new culture is in place. And this program is one

589
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:35,159
Speaker 1: of a handful, a very select handful that's able to

590
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: now hit the reload button. And if LSU is in

591
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: reload territory, ten wins is the floor. If they're not,

592
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 1: then eight or nine wins is always possibility. I don't

593
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: believe that's where they are anymore. I believe that's where

594
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 1: they were. I believe that team right there is one

595
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: of about half a dozen that I circle. If the

596
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: sport works out the way it typically does, it's capable

597
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: of winning a championship. Now, wasn't saying that about him

598
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: two years ago. I was saying it about him this

599
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: time last year. Think I got a pretty good feel

600
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: about LSU. And the one thing that I can't wait

601
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: to see this spring, it's not even quarterback guys. I

602
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: got confidence in Miles Brennan. The one thing I can't

603
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: wait to see the spring is the same thing I

604
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: couldn't wait to see last spring. How does their offensive

605
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: line develop? The answer to that question a year ago was, Oh,

606
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: they're going to go on to win the Joe More Award.

607
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: Talking to Shaye Dixon, our guy would go two four

608
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: seven last week and we were talking about that offensive

609
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: line had a lot of really good stuff on the

610
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: message board. They're actually on the LSU side. And I

611
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: asked him, Shae, which confidence level here? What are people's

612
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,240
Speaker 1: confidence levels collectively inside the program and around the program,

613
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: because this time last year it was a huge question mark.

614
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 1: They end up winning the Joe More Award. And he said,

615
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:44,520
Speaker 1: there's probably even a little bit more question around this group,

616
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Speaker 1: maybe even than there was last year. We saw how

617
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 1: it worked out last year. Can't wait to see how

618
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 1: it works out this year. All Right, final thing I

619
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Speaker 1: wanted to hit tonight, and then I'm just kind of

620
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: give you some details about what's going on with the show,

621
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: and what will go on with the show, and why

622
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: in the world I'm wearing this ridiculous shirt when it

623
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: was lovely outside today. There's no excuse to be wearing sleeves.

624
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 1: Right now is Will must Champ in his final spring

625
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 1: at South Carolina. Some of you may have seen the

626
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: YouTube channel here at twenty four seven Sports. I did

627
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: a video about this the other day, and I kind

628
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 1: of wanted to rehash and then offer up some things

629
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Speaker 1: that we've heard, some of the hoof beats that we've

630
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 1: heard from Columbia, how this may impact the entire SEC

631
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: Eastern Division and beyond. Last year, there was a lot

632
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 1: of hot seat talk around Will must Champ, and I

633
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: thought it was laughable, and I was on record as

634
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: saying that I didn't think at any point last year

635
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: Will must Champ's job was in jeopardy. I didn't think

636
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: it was on the line at any point. And that

637
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 1: is including a sometimes hideous up and down campaign, offensive

638
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: inconsistency quarterback was inconsistent. Injuries were again the story for

639
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Speaker 1: South Carolina football. But what that did was it burned

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Speaker 1: up all the equity and so you had the brand

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Speaker 1: new sixty million dollar facility over there that Will must

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Speaker 1: Champ was heavily involved in designing and building and fundraising,

643
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Speaker 1: and so that's important. That goes a long way with

644
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Speaker 1: very deep pocketed people. What doesn't go a long way

645
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Speaker 1: is sitting at home in December while you know everyone

646
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: else in the sport is playing a bowl game. And

647
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Speaker 1: so now we enter twenty twenty and what you guys

648
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Speaker 1: were saying a lot of you, at least in twenty nineteen,

649
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Speaker 1: I agree with. I think it very well could be

650
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Speaker 1: his final spring. I don't root for this because see,

651
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Speaker 1: unlike some people, I kind of I like Will musch Jamp.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't text me four or five times a day,

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Speaker 1: but I like Will mush Jamp. So I'm gonna admittedly say,

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Speaker 1: I hope I'm wrong here, and this is certainly no

655
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Speaker 1: prediction that he's getting fired. But what I do think

656
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Speaker 1: is I think the hot seat talk is very real,

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Speaker 1: and I think that he was given an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: make some changes in the offseason. Most notably, at least publicly,

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator is now Mike Bobo, and I got some

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Speaker 1: questions about that, and I'll touch on that in a second.

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Speaker 1: They've already opened spring by the way, and there is

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Speaker 1: one really notable, sort of overarching piece of information that's

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Speaker 1: come out of spring ball at South Carolina that I

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Speaker 1: think you want to talk metaphorical speaking, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: one at you one in a second. But new strength,

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Speaker 1: the conditioning coach in place, new offensive coordinator again, allegedly

667
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Speaker 1: a new offense. You've got moving pieces all over the place.

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Speaker 1: I know that. Hal McGranahan, a lot of the guys

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Speaker 1: over at the Big Spur have been talking about how

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Speaker 1: a ton of guys that are going to be counted

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Speaker 1: on to be key contributors skill guys now offensively. When

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Speaker 1: I say skill guys, you know who I mean. Takes

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Speaker 1: a lot of skill to play offensive line. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not talking about o'ligneman. But I'm talking about a lot

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Speaker 1: of true freshmen, some of them aren't on campus yet,

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Speaker 1: guys who are going to be counted on to do ultimately, hopefully,

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Speaker 1: if i'm will must save my job this year. How

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00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: comforting to know a kid is headed to Prom in

679
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: a couple of months, and then I'm gonna count on

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Speaker 1: them to come here and hopefully bail me out and

681
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Speaker 1: make me look like a genius. So you got the

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Speaker 1: hire of Mike Bobo, you got the high of strength,

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Speaker 1: the conditioning coach. I want you to think about this

684
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Speaker 1: because you've been there, probably as recently as this morning.

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Speaker 1: When you wake up, you're on a tight schedule in

686
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Speaker 1: the morning, and you head out the door and you

687
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Speaker 1: get in the car and you just go and you

688
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: got a very few minutes, precious few minutes to get

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Speaker 1: to work and get where you need to be. And

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Speaker 1: what you're doing is you're driving down the road and

691
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: you're asking yourself, did I remember everything? This is the

692
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Speaker 1: point of no return. This is that point where you

693
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Speaker 1: can't go back. You don't have time to go back.

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Speaker 1: So if the answer is no, I didn't remember everything,

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Speaker 1: you're just screwed. Well that's got to be kind of

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Speaker 1: how will muss Champ feels right now because he's got

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Speaker 1: a new offensive coordinator, got a new strength and conditioning coach.

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Speaker 1: I don't it would take too long, guys. We don't

699
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Speaker 1: want to do an hour and a half show. It

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Speaker 1: would take too long for me to list all the

701
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: new about this program, and the least of which being

702
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Speaker 1: the question that again we won't get answered in spring,

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Speaker 1: and that question being is this really going to be

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Speaker 1: Mike Bobo's offense or is it going to be just

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Speaker 1: Mike Bobo running the Will musk Champ offense. See when

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Speaker 1: you talk about ed Orizeron at LSU, what was key

707
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Speaker 1: about the overnight turnaround for LSU last year is Orizonon

708
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Speaker 1: hired the right guys and got out of the way.

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Speaker 1: Question one is Mike Bobo the right guy? Question number

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Speaker 1: two is if he is is the headman willing to

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Speaker 1: get out of the way. I know that's easier said

712
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: than done. I know when you know, when it's your

713
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:11,840
Speaker 1: job on the line. Talked about this, Will Mausan. You know,

714
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Speaker 1: when your job's on the line, you want to go down,

715
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: fire in the bullets. You want to fire instead of

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00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,799
Speaker 1: sitting back with your arms crossed and watching someone else

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00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 1: call the shots. Unfortunately, that's led to the demise of

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Speaker 1: many a head coach. It could, most recently or in

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Speaker 1: the future at least be happening in Columbia. But having

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Speaker 1: said all that, in order for them to arrive at

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Speaker 1: their destination, which I think has to be eight wins.

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Speaker 1: Seven wins and eight wins I think is a massive

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Speaker 1: line in the sand for them this year. In order

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Speaker 1: for them to get there, all this stuff has to

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Speaker 1: click immediately. You've seen carolina schedule. It's like this every year.

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Speaker 1: All this stuff has to fall into place. They don't

727
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Speaker 1: get three or four five weeks. You gotta be you

728
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 1: gotta be humming by October. I mean, if they number one,

729
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: if they had the injuries, they've had their screwed to

730
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Speaker 1: begin with. But number two, they don't have time for

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Speaker 1: their offense to gel or click. And I don't even

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Speaker 1: think it's realistic to expect it to be that way

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Speaker 1: when not only are you talking about new coaches all

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Speaker 1: over the place philosophically changing, but you got a critical

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Speaker 1: mass of kids who aren't even on campus yet they're

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Speaker 1: going to be asked to contribute. And I checked Carolina's

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Speaker 1: most recent recruiting class, and while it was solid and

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Speaker 1: I've kind of secretly admired the job that they've done

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Speaker 1: incrementally getting better in recruiting, I didn't see Julio and

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Speaker 1: aj Green in that last recruiting class. So I don't

741
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Speaker 1: necessarily know that guys are going to come in here

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Speaker 1: like George Pickens for Georgia last year, Calvin Ridley or

743
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,760
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper in recent years for Alabama and just pop

744
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: out of nowhere. That's what they have to have happen.

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00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: So Carolina is flying by the seat of the pants,

746
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Speaker 1: and to me, they are the most interesting program to watch,

747
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: maybe Caroline in Texas, A and M this year in

748
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 1: the entire sec because of that, just some things that

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Speaker 1: we're watching. So what are we doing right now? Well,

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Speaker 1: what we're doing is a show called a Late Kick

751
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: live throughout the rest of the spring. We're going to

752
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,360
Speaker 1: I guess I should probably graphically put this up, so

753
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: I'll add that to the to do list for tomorrow

754
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 1: on the channel, and that is live shows throughout the

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Speaker 1: spring Thursday night and Sunday night, seven o'clock Central Time.

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00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 1: It's taken me a little while to get used to

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Speaker 1: talking Central Time instead of Eastern Time. At the conclusion

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Speaker 1: of spring, will adjust that schedule accordingly. A lot of

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:26,880
Speaker 1: you guys are tuned in tonight. I see the chats

760
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: very lively. I'll probably have to add some moderators because

761
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,880
Speaker 1: I recognize some of the names in here, and I

762
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: know you have to be moderated. Big brothers got to

763
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: look after you from time to time. So what we're

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Speaker 1: doing here is I work for twenty four to seven Sports. Now.

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Speaker 1: I had an incredible opportunity put in front of me,

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Speaker 1: and it was going to take an incredible opportunity to

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Speaker 1: walk away from what I had in Columbus, which was

768
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: full on independence and access to a professional TV studio

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Speaker 1: to produce my own content. I have followed Rivals and

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00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: then twenty four to seven Sports when management here, we're

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00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: running both of those shops. I have long admired them

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Speaker 1: from a distance. Even when we were doing Late Kick independently,

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Speaker 1: I heavily leaned on the network of insiders and guys that.

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Speaker 1: Make no mistake, I'm not being paid to say this.

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Speaker 1: I'm being paid, but not to say this. There are

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Speaker 1: no better insiders in the college athletics industry than the

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Speaker 1: network that they have at twenty four to seven. When

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Speaker 1: I was independent, I leaned on them heavily. So now

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00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 1: I work here and we can lean on them even

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00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: more heavily. You know the kind of show we want

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00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: to do. If you've already watched us if you don't.

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00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: This is not a hot take show. It's not a

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Speaker 1: debate show. Basically, it's not anything you turn on your

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Speaker 1: TV at ten am, money through Friday and see if

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00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: you got that or if you want it rather you

786
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: got it inspaids on multiple channels. What we like to

787
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: think we know here is what the hardcore college football

788
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: fan wants, and that's information and that's intel, and that's

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Speaker 1: a little bit more granular look at the sport instead

790
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 1: of just flying over it in a blimp and swinging

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Speaker 1: at the low hanging fruit and knocking it out of

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Speaker 1: the park. Again, there's a lot of content out there.

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Speaker 1: Don't aggregate when I'm looking for clicks. I mean, we're

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Speaker 1: looking for views, but we want to get your views

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Speaker 1: the right way, and we have a dynamite list of

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Speaker 1: resources to be able to do that. We got a

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00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: ton of ideas. This is just in my mind, scratching

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Speaker 1: the surface of what we're capable of and ultimately going

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Speaker 1: to do here. My show is not the only new

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Speaker 1: show coming, it's just the one that we happen to

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Speaker 1: get off the ground first. So walking in the door here,

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Speaker 1: it is very refreshing to be around the most talented

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Speaker 1: people in the industry, and it's a freight train moving

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Speaker 1: the same direction. And I'm very happy to be on board.

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00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 1: And I'm very happy to have you on board. As

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00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:38,720
Speaker 1: I always asked. You like the show, like the channel,

807
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: subscribe to the channel, share away on all the platforms

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00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: message boards like you guys do. I'll be very active

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Speaker 1: on those twenty four to seven sports message boards. Been

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Speaker 1: on several of them already. So you guys are the

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Speaker 1: lifeblood of this show, not me, and I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you following I see we got really good viewership. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we've got a lot of you tune in here and

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00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: it is what is it, Colin Aaron? It is March fifth,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, the first games are like in seven or

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Speaker 1: eight months. Really appreciate you being here. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: back here again Sunday night. This will be available in

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Speaker 1: podcast form. Those details will be finalized next week. Start

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Speaker 1: searching for Late Kick and by next week you'll be

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Speaker 1: finding that. But we'll be here same time Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: Until then, I'm Josh Pate for Colin, for Aaron. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you watching. This is the Late Kick. Have a

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Speaker 1: great night, guys,