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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: The Texas track star stabber walks free, walks free after

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Speaker 2: a brutal stabbing of a football star. This as the

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Speaker 2: victim's family is attacked. The victims mother's home swatted. This

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Speaker 2: as we learn the killer's family is set to buy

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Speaker 2: a new house with donations. I'm Nancy Grace. This is

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Speaker 2: Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 3: Accused team killer Anthony Carmelo pleads with a Texas judge

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Speaker 3: for a lower bond on the basis of his age

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Speaker 3: and lack of criminal record, despite allegedly stabbing the death

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Speaker 3: a fellow student at a track meet. The judge meets

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Speaker 3: his demands.

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Speaker 2: What okay, If we have the fact correct, the suspect

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Speaker 2: stabbed an unarmed teen boy. But yet I'm hearing that

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Speaker 2: the suspect has walked free. I am also learning that

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Speaker 2: it was urged in court that the suspect has no

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Speaker 2: criminal history.

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Speaker 1: He's a juvenile. I'm listen to this.

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Speaker 4: Anthony's father was questioned about an incident involving his son

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Speaker 4: that happened at Carmelo's high school in February. The Daily

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Speaker 4: Mail refers to the incident as an altercation assault. But

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Speaker 4: as the situation was handled internally by the Frisco Independent

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Speaker 4: School District, it is unclear if Anthony was the aggressor

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Speaker 4: or mereleia witness to the incident, or even what type

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Speaker 4: of incident occurred.

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Speaker 5: And his brother was holding him, trying to hold the

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Speaker 5: blood in and he passed. My son watched his brother

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Speaker 5: die in his arms.

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Speaker 2: That's from our friends at Fox for Dallas Fort Worth News. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let me understand this straight out to trial lawyer Lisa Herrick,

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Speaker 2: partner at Vargie Somerset and former juvenile prosecutor Lisa, thank

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Speaker 2: you for being with us when I can't get a

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Speaker 2: straight answer. That makes me think that there is subterfuge.

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Speaker 2: So if the suspect, who is the admitted stabber of

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Speaker 2: an unarmed team at a high school track meet.

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Speaker 1: When the stabber's.

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Speaker 2: Camp is asked about an incident involving an assault at

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Speaker 2: the school and I can't get a straight answer, it

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Speaker 2: tells me that somebody is covering.

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Speaker 1: Because if the suspect was just a.

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Speaker 2: Witness to an assault, or a good samaritan or the

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Speaker 2: champion that's stopped the whole thing, we would have heard

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Speaker 2: that wouldn't we I mean, they're trying to get bond.

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Speaker 1: They did get bond, So what is this prior ansident?

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Speaker 2: And does it concern you that when the suspect's father

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Speaker 2: is questioned about this, as he's urging his son's a

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Speaker 2: good character, we don't get a straight answer.

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Speaker 6: Well, what I would want to know is where any

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Speaker 6: criminal charges brought because of it? And or was Carmelo

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Speaker 6: suspended or expelled or did he have any sort of

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Speaker 6: school disciplinary action as a result of it, Because if

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Speaker 6: neither of those things are true, it does make me

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Speaker 6: believe that he probably wasn't the aggressor. Criminal charges don't

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Speaker 6: necessarily have to be brought due to a fight at school,

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Speaker 6: but schools are very likely to have some sort of

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Speaker 6: disciplinary action because of a fight at school, especially if

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Speaker 6: it was one sided, especially for a person who was

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Speaker 6: an aggressor.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it disturbs me that someone is asking for

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Speaker 2: a reduced bond to walk free after stabbing an unarmed

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Speaker 2: at a prior school incident. I mean the father Carmelo

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Speaker 2: Anthony's father was questioned about the incident involving his son

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Speaker 2: at Anthony's high school. So why am I not getting

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Speaker 2: a straight answer, Dave Mack. That changes everything. If there

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Speaker 2: was a prior assault by Carmelo Anthony on another think

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Speaker 2: it through, Dave mac For Pete's sake, this would be

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Speaker 2: a similar transaction if it's true, because Anthony would be

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Speaker 2: attacking another high schooler. I'd like to find out if

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Speaker 2: that victim was armed or unarmed. I'd like to find

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Speaker 2: out if Anthony was armed or unarmed, the extent of

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Speaker 2: the attack. Did it rise to an aggravated assault with

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Do we know anything or was that completely glossed over

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Speaker 2: in the Bond hearing. We don't have an answer, right.

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Speaker 7: It was completely glossed o in the hearing, Nancy. The

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Speaker 7: question was what happened and the answer was nothing. It

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Speaker 7: was like a tap dance. We cannot find out any

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Speaker 7: their own investigation, and that's the only thing we know

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Speaker 7: happened at school. They covered I didn't want to say

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Speaker 7: covered up. They said they dealt with it and that

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Speaker 7: whatsoever about his son Ian to be honest as a dad.

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Speaker 7: If my son was accused of doing something, and in

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Speaker 7: this particular case, he hadn't, I would have been screaming, absolutely,

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Speaker 7: here's what happened, and I would tell you the whole

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Speaker 2: Take a look at the suspect, actually not really a suspect,

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Speaker 2: because he has admitted that he stabbed Austin Metcalf unarmed

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Speaker 2: at a truck meet.

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Speaker 1: Here is Carmelo Anthony as he is leaving the courthouse.

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Speaker 1: Take a listen, Carmela, why weren't you on that store?

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Speaker 2: How the day? That's one of our friends at Fox

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Speaker 2: for Dallas Fort Worth News to Kady Barbara joining me

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Speaker 2: my san Antonio dot com what happened at the bond hearing?

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Speaker 8: But his attorney was asked about the knife and he

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Speaker 8: refused to answer a question about it. He said, he

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Speaker 8: just said, for unknown reasons, Carmelo brought the knife to

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Speaker 8: the school. But uh and the district attorney also acknowledged

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Speaker 8: that it was for unknown reasons. So they're not prepared

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Speaker 8: to go into that conversation. But it seems to be

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Speaker 8: the most pressing comment or most pressing detail about the

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Speaker 8: case right now?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Who asked who about why the knife was brought to

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Speaker 2: the track mate?

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Speaker 8: Howard's attorney was asked by the media after the hearing

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Speaker 8: about this, and he just said it would be irresponsible

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Speaker 8: for me or them to say, uh there why he

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Speaker 8: brought the knife, and they're asking the public to with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So hold on, Katie Barber. Let me understand.

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Speaker 2: I asked you what happened to the bond hearing, and

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Speaker 2: you told me something that happened outside the bond hearing.

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Speaker 1: But I want to follow up on that.

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Speaker 2: You're telling me that Carmelo, Anthony's lawyer was asked why

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Speaker 2: Anthony brought a knife to the track meet?

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Speaker 1: Do I have it right so far? Katie Barber?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he was asked why he brought the knife?

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Speaker 9: Right?

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Speaker 2: I got it, Yes, I got it. I got it

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Speaker 2: the first time. So hold on right there. Lisa Herrick

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Speaker 2: veteran trial lawyer who has handle cases in JUVI juvenile justice.

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Speaker 2: So the lawyer wouldn't answer why Anthony brought a knife

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Speaker 2: to a track meet. Here's my question. I'm sure you're

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Speaker 2: familiar with implicit.

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Speaker 1: Intent to commit a crime. Are you not yes.

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Speaker 2: For instance, if I say, okay, Lisa Herrick, I've got

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Speaker 2: you bam. That's explicit. It's stated, and the law recognizes that.

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Speaker 2: But there is also implicit intent. For instance, if I

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Speaker 2: and shove it into your heart, I don't have to say, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: now I'm going to stab you dead. It's implicitly proven

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Speaker 2: by my actions. I don't have to announce them. This

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Speaker 2: is the problem Carmelo Anthony's lawyers are going to have.

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Speaker 2: Implicit and explicit intent are equal in the eyes of

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Speaker 2: Lady Justice. Under the law, they carry equal weight. Him

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Speaker 2: bringing a knife and in using it to stab someone

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Speaker 2: dead is implicit intent to commit a crime. That's why

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Speaker 2: the lawyer wouldn't answer that question, Lisa Herrick.

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Speaker 6: I think that's possibly why you wouldn't answer. I also

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Speaker 6: like to know what kind of knife it was. If

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Speaker 6: we're talking about a largely hunting knife, there's probably no

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Speaker 6: reason why he should be carrying that. Maybe there is,

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Speaker 6: and his attorneys just don't feel like disclosing that at

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Speaker 6: this point. But if fits a small pocket knife or

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Speaker 6: like a Swiss army knife. Maybe he carries that for

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Speaker 6: other reasons. Maybe he just happened to have it in

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Speaker 6: his backpack and used it for self defense. We don't

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Speaker 6: know what kind of knife it was at this point,

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Speaker 6: or at least I don't know, and I think that

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Speaker 6: that makes a difference.

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Speaker 1: I think that matters, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I think you're right, Lisa Herrick. I think you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: If it's a pen knife or a folding knife, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys might carry those around. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: So the type of knife is going to be very important.

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Speaker 2: It's my understanding. It's a fixed blade. I don't know that.

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Speaker 2: In other words, not a knife that you fold out.

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Speaker 2: It's a knife with the blade attached and it's not foldable.

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Speaker 2: But we'll find out. That's a really good point, you know,

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Speaker 2: isn't it interesting at Leasta Herik, how one small fact

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Speaker 2: can change the terrain topography of the case. Because if

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Speaker 2: he shows up like a knife, for instance, out of

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Speaker 2: the Brian Coburger case, a fixed blade army knife, right,

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Speaker 2: a military style knife with a sheath, that's much more

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Speaker 2: menacing and much more of an implicit threat to commit

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Speaker 2: a crime, as opposed to a foldable penknife. You're absolutely right.

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Speaker 2: I want to get back to the bond hearing. I

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Speaker 2: want to find out why the known, the admitted stabber

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Speaker 2: of an unarmed boy at a track meet for Pete Sega,

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Speaker 2: a high school track meet, has walked free.

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Speaker 1: Listen to this.

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Speaker 7: Just before his bond hearing, Carmelo Anthony's family retains Mike Howard,

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Speaker 7: a Dallas criminal defense attorney. The change of attorney is

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Speaker 7: announced by the Next Generation Action Network, a nonprofit that

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Speaker 7: is supporting Carmelo Anthony. Howard represents Anthony in court as

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Speaker 7: the defense seeks to have bond for Anthony lowered from

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Speaker 7: one million dollars to one hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 4: Prosecutors question Andrew Anthony, the father of the accused, why

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Speaker 4: Carmelo Anthony should have his bond reduced when the family

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Speaker 4: has already raised over four hundred thousand dollars from a

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Speaker 4: crowdfunding site.

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Speaker 2: Dave Matt let me understand what was happening in the

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Speaker 2: bond hearing. There is there was a huge bond set

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Speaker 2: because this is a murder case.

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Speaker 1: That's how it's being prosecuted.

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Speaker 2: The defense wants a bond hearing, at which a lot

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Speaker 2: of questions are not answered, but it's their motion. They're

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Speaker 2: the ones that file for a lowered bond. Now we

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Speaker 2: find out at this hour the family Carmelo Anthony, the

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Speaker 2: established family, has raised nearly four hundred and fifty thousand dollars.

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Speaker 2: So why do they need the bond reduced? I don't

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Speaker 2: get it, because if the bond is a million dollars,

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Speaker 2: what a definant puts up is ten percent. That's one

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Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars. They've gotten nearly half a million dollars

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Speaker 2: raised by the public for the defense, not for the funeral,

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Speaker 2: not for the victims family, but for the defense. So

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Speaker 2: why Dave did they need a bond lowered if they've

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Speaker 2: raised more than enough money to pay their own bond.

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Speaker 7: Actually, that was a question that came up during the

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Speaker 7: bond hearing and was asked if Carmelo Anthony's father Andrew.

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Speaker 7: And Andrew Anthony said he does not have access to

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Speaker 7: those funds. Is a very fine line here, Nancy, between

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Speaker 7: what is truth and what is exact words, And technically

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Speaker 7: he does not have access to those funds himself. But

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Speaker 7: according to what we've.

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Speaker 1: Seen, Wait, what are you saying the family is.

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Speaker 2: Give Send Goo right GSGU so it's in their name,

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Speaker 2: why don't they have access to it?

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Speaker 7: His mother, Carmelo Anthony's mother is on that account and

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Speaker 7: she would have direct access to that money. But what

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Speaker 7: are you, Anthony is not?

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Speaker 1: Are you saying that with a straight faith? You're saying

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Speaker 1: I am.

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Speaker 2: The dad and the son are in court saying we

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Speaker 7: In the bond hearing, Barmelo Anthony's father is on the

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Speaker 1: Crime stores with Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 7: As law enforcement and paramedics arrive on scene, the rain

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Speaker 3: Centennial High School's Carmelo Anthony reaches inside his bag, grabs

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Speaker 10: First off, Roze for I didn't know what to do

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Speaker 2: Fall go over there, you were just saying, Austin's twin

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Speaker 2: I've heard from the bond hearing about how the stabber's

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, we now.

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Speaker 2: Know there have been attacks on the victims family and

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Speaker 7: What happened, Nancy, It's almost like a media blackout. When

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Speaker 7: They're trying to get enticed with Austin's mother, Megan, and

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Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand, Dave mac you're talking about Austin Metcalf,

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Speaker 2: Someone calls police, an anonymous tipster and says a victim

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Speaker 7: You have that one hundred percent correct.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe I'm projecting, but I recall when my

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Speaker 1: I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: Douglas Griffin joining me, senior police officer, President of the

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Speaker 1: That's saying a lot.

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Speaker 2: Twenty nine years on the gang Task Force, you've seen

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Speaker 2: it all, Douglas Griffin, How is it that the victims

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Speaker 10: I really don't understand it. There's so many questions to

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Speaker 10: and go, how did this happen? You have an individual

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Speaker 10: with the To me, it's almost like he intended to

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Speaker 10: where are all the coaches and the teachers and the staff,

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Speaker 10: there's a lot of questions here that we have to answer.

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Speaker 10: We have to look at the way the school is

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Speaker 2: You know, you brought up a really good point, and

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Speaker 2: I haven't thought this aspect through, and that is why

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Speaker 2: Douglas Griffin I would spend so much time with my investigator,

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Speaker 2: he Carmelo Anthony, the stabber, the confesstabber. If he hadn't

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Speaker 2: a let. He confessed to it, all right. He walks

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Speaker 2: we've all been to high school football games and track events.

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Speaker 8: The time of the stabbing. It was a rain delay,

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Speaker 2: So simply that's a yes, the event was still ongoing.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean to me? That means to me

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Speaker 1: We're all huddled under that tent.

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Speaker 2: There was no way that Anthony did not know he

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Speaker 1: The wrong tent, no way with a knife.

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Speaker 2: I just wanted to clarify that it's not like the

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Speaker 2: No, he went into the other side's tent with a knife. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Dave mac you mentioned that Austin's mother's home was swatted

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Speaker 7: He has been getting threads since this first began, by

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Speaker 2: I just don't understand how this has gotten so best Awkwards.

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Speaker 2: Neither family is the bad guy. Carmelo Anthony's family not

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Speaker 2: So how has the victim's family turned into the scapegoat here?

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Speaker 2: Why is the mom's house getting swatted? Why is the

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Speaker 2: This in the last seventy two hours, they have put

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Speaker 1: They have been to his funeral.

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine anything worse than that. I want

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Speaker 5: Four, and his brother was holding him, trying to hold

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Speaker 3: Friends and family morn as they gather for seventeen year

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Speaker 2: Meet, described as a quote true warrior. An entire community

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Speaker 1: Funeral, Nancy.

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Speaker 7: He was so many things, and he seemed to just

438
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Speaker 7: always put other people first. And that's what came out

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Speaker 7: at the funeral.

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Speaker 2: Joining me psychologist mediator specializing in forensic psychology, doctor John Delatory.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Delatory, thank you for being with us. I have

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Speaker 2: learned during the night that the father of Austin Metcalf

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00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 2: stated that he feels forgiveness toward the killer and that

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Speaker 2: he has actually been attacked because he felt forgiveness.

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Speaker 1: He wanted to forgive. But I've learned through another source.

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Speaker 1: He says he.

447
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: Forgives Anthony Carmelo Anthony the stabber, as much for Anthony

448
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Speaker 2: but for himself, because he doesn't want to be consumed

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Speaker 2: with hate. But what I don't understand is why people

450
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Speaker 2: are attacking him for speaking about forgiveness and attacking the

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Speaker 2: victim's family. What is happening, doctor Delatory?

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Speaker 11: I think when it comes to these individuals that are

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Speaker 11: willing to co opt the hate that mister Metcalf is

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Speaker 11: trying to move past. Now, that's a strong man. His

455
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Speaker 11: son just died. That's a strong man to say, you

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Speaker 11: know what, I see that Carmelo Anthony is not a

457
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Speaker 11: villain in this story. I don't want to hold hate

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Speaker 11: in my heart. That's going to keep me down. My

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Speaker 11: son Austin wouldn't want that. But there are other individuals

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Speaker 11: who would say, no, you have to be angry, you

461
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Speaker 11: have to be mad, and I'm going to show you

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Speaker 11: what it means when you act mad. So they're trying

463
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Speaker 11: to co opt this tragedy, right, and make people understand

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Speaker 11: that the only thing to feel is hate, and mister

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Speaker 11: Metcalf doesn't want any of that. But because he doesn't

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Speaker 11: want any of that, and these people expect him to

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Speaker 11: feel it. They're now willing to target him for not

468
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Speaker 11: feeling the way that they expect him to feel the

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Speaker 11: way that they want to feel.

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Speaker 1: With the family in mourning.

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Speaker 2: And trying to fight off personal attacks on the mom,

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Speaker 2: the dad, the home, the job. We are learning and

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Speaker 2: a probative development tonight that there is video of the stabbing.

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Speaker 1: Listen, they have collective video.

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Speaker 11: So it is a video of Anthony.

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Speaker 9: Yes, they have collective video.

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Speaker 11: Oh, there is a video of the actual stabbing.

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Speaker 1: There's video.

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Speaker 9: There are several different video that they verified that is.

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Speaker 2: From our friends that Next Generation Action Network. Okay, straight

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Speaker 2: out to Katie Barbara joining US digital content producer my

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Speaker 2: san Antonio dot com. Katie, what can you tell me

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Speaker 2: about potential video of the stabbing.

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Speaker 8: It's the first time that we've heard about video so

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Speaker 8: far in this case. There has been nothing in any

486
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Speaker 8: of the police reports, interviews from police in the initial

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Speaker 8: incident about any of this videos. This is a very

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Speaker 8: new development and it'll be a really big development in

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Speaker 8: the case if it can actually shed some light on

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Speaker 8: the altercation itself and corroborate the details.

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Speaker 2: Of you were just hearing Dominique Alexander, spokesperson for the

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Speaker 2: Carmelo Anthony family stating upon questioning the question, is there

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Speaker 2: is video of the actual stabbing, and Alexander.

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Speaker 1: Responds, there is video.

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Speaker 2: There are several different videos that they verified. Sounds like

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Speaker 2: to me we'll find that not in the initial police report,

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Speaker 2: but in a supplemental report, which details the investigation once

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00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 2: the original police report is taken.

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Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. Think about it, Lisa Herrick.

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Speaker 2: In this day and age, with everybody watching Law and

501
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: Order and every other crime story, crime TV or TV series.

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Speaker 1: Or movie they want DNA, they.

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Speaker 2: Want a video, there may very well be video of

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00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: this stabbing event, and that is very very rare and

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Speaker 2: a homicide prosecution that may very well be state's exhibit

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Speaker 2: number one. On the other hand, as you pointed out

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Speaker 2: earlier with your observation regarding the knife, it could be

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Speaker 2: the defense exhibit number one.

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Speaker 1: What will the video show?

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Speaker 2: And I imagine, Lisa, that there's tons of video of

511
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Speaker 2: moms and dads take videos of what was happening. Some

512
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: of my favorite videos I get of my twins is

513
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,479
Speaker 2: when they're on the sideline standing there and I get

514
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: a great shot of them. Also, a lot of my

515
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 2: son's friends are involved in sports broadcasting and they cover

516
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 2: the entire event. There's a possibility that, for instance, like

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00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: play on Sports or something that covers high school events,

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Speaker 2: there's a very strong possibility that there is actual broadcast

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Speaker 2: quality for a high school anyway, video of this, This

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Speaker 2: video could be coming from any number of sources, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: You're exactly right.

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Speaker 6: It could be you know, potentially cell phone videos from

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Speaker 6: parents or other kids, which you know, I would be

524
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 6: a little more concerned about those because they could just

525
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 6: be clipped. They may not show the entire incident from

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Speaker 6: beginning to end. But I would think if there is

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Speaker 6: the kind of broadcast video that you're talking about, if

528
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 6: that's just constantly rolling, that's going to be huge. It's

529
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Speaker 6: going to be so valuable because it's one thing to

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00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 6: hear from, you know, maybe from Carmelo if he does

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Speaker 6: testify or if his story is made in testimony at

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Speaker 6: some point. It's one thing to hear his perspective, but

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00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 6: it's a completely different thing to see it and to

534
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Speaker 6: see the body language and to see who puts hands

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Speaker 6: on whom first and where other way.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Herrick, Lisa Herrick, putting hands on the stabber does

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Speaker 2: not justify a mortal wound. For instance, you don't bring

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00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: a gun to a fistfight. That's not self defense under

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00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: the law. So when Carmelo Anthony was being escorted out

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Speaker 2: after he ran following the incident, after he threw away

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Speaker 2: the murder weapon, he said, this is self defense, right?

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Speaker 1: Is self defense? No, just because I touch you or

543
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Speaker 1: touch you.

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Speaker 2: By your shoulders or put my hand on your shoulder,

545
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Speaker 2: you are not authorized under the law to stab me dead.

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00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: It's like you take out a fly swatter and I

547
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: shoot you dead with an oozy. That is not self

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00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 2: defense under the black and white letter of the law.

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Speaker 2: So these videos may support the defense, they may support

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Speaker 2: the state. Now what Carmelo Anthony said at the time,

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00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,919
Speaker 2: and the defense is stuck with this. You can't get

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00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 2: away from statements made by the defendant at the time.

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00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 2: He said he put his hands on me. I would

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Speaker 2: like to find out what, if anything, that entailed, If

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00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 2: it was more than just putting the hand on him,

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Speaker 2: will that rise to self defense?

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Speaker 1: Probably not.

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00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: Because a weapon was used versus a fistfight or a touch,

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Speaker 2: that is never self.

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Speaker 1: Defense under the law.

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Speaker 2: One other thing, you mentioned that there would be a

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Speaker 2: problem with clips of what happened because it won't show

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Speaker 2: the whole thing. Dis agree. Even clips leading up to, during,

564
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 2: or after are probative.

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Speaker 1: Are probative A mom.

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Speaker 2: Or a dad doesn't have to take the video of

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Speaker 2: the whole incident for there to be a video that

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00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: is contemporaneous with the stabbing. So I think all video

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Speaker 2: clips or photos will come in and it will be

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Speaker 2: up to the lawyers to argue completion.

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Speaker 6: Yes, absolutely, I agree with you that any video or

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Speaker 6: like even you mentioned photos will be valuable. I think

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Speaker 6: they'll be probative, and I do agree that they will

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Speaker 6: most likely be admitted if this does go to trial.

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Speaker 6: I think the most valuable videos that exist would show

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Speaker 6: everything from beginning to end, just so there's nothing that's

577
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 6: left out, There's nothing that would be misinterpreted, so nobody

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Speaker 6: can say there's something that happened prior to the video rolling.

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Speaker 6: We would know, we'd be able to see well.

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Speaker 3: Talking to the community about spreading false and information online,

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Speaker 3: Dominique Alexander, president and founder of the NGA N tells

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Speaker 3: those assembled that the police have videos of the stabbing

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Speaker 3: death of Austin Metcalf and that they have verified the videos.

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Speaker 3: There has been no description of what the videos may show,

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Speaker 3: or how many different videos they have, or if they

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Speaker 3: will be released to the public. Seventeen year old football

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00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 3: star is brutally stabbed to death at a high school

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Speaker 3: track meet, and his accused killer has now been granted

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Speaker 3: a lower bond.

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Speaker 9: The disinformation that is going online is hurting this case

591
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 9: and it has to stop. Austin Metcalf and Carmela Anthony

592
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 9: did not know each other.

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Speaker 2: That from our friends at Next Generation Action Network. You

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Speaker 2: are hearing the Anthony family spokesperson speaking Dominique Alexander. But

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Speaker 2: it's my understanding that it was from the Anthony camp

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Speaker 2: originally that the stabbing was the result of bullying or

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Speaker 2: some prior incident.

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Speaker 1: Is that right, Dave Mack?

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Speaker 7: That is exactly what has been leaked out in the

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Speaker 7: media on social media in particular, Nancy, this was a

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Speaker 7: spinning story from the very beginning because people were trying

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Speaker 7: to justify why would anyone get stabbed at a track

603
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Speaker 7: field and field event, and that's what they came up with.

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00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,439
Speaker 7: They had no basis. In fact, it was just out

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Speaker 7: there in the internet, you know, and people ran with it.

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Speaker 1: So let's be clear.

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Speaker 2: Katie Barber joining me from my San Antonio dot com.

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Speaker 2: There was no bullying by the victim to the defendant.

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Speaker 1: In fact, they never even met each other.

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Speaker 2: There's a photo online allegedly purporting to depict them together.

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Speaker 2: That's a lie, that is missing information, that's not true.

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Speaker 2: Where did all of that come from? Who said that

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Speaker 2: the victim was bullying the defendant.

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Speaker 8: I haven't seen an exact source for it, but it

615
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 8: has stuff. It's proliferated on social media.

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00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 2: We don't know the origin of bullying claims, but we

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Speaker 2: hear the spokesperson for the Anthony family walking that back.

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Speaker 2: There was no bullying leading up to the victim being

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Speaker 2: stabbed dead. Joining you right now. Doctor Kendall Crown's chief

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Speaker 2: medical Examiner Terran County launching a brand new podcast, Mayhem

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Speaker 2: and the More Key is an esteemed lecturer at the

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Speaker 2: Brenette School of Medicine at TCU. Doctor Kendall crowns, while

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Speaker 2: the autopsy, the formal autopsy has not been released, we

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Speaker 2: are getting reports of the cood cause of death.

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Speaker 1: What have you learned from my understanding?

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Speaker 12: It's a cause of death is a stab wound of

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Speaker 12: the chest that involves the heart that of course will

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Speaker 12: cause massive bleeding out after the heart is hit by

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Speaker 12: a knife.

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Speaker 2: Is there any way his brother could have saved him,

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Speaker 2: because we know the twin brother raced over to Austin,

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Speaker 2: held him in his arms as he was dying, and

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Speaker 2: tried to stem the flow of blood.

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Speaker 12: No, there is nothing that he could have done. With

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Speaker 12: the heart being involved by a stab wound, it's going

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Speaker 12: to bleed out quite quickly, within a matter of minutes.

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Speaker 12: Even with his brother putting pressure on the chest trying

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Speaker 12: to stop the bleeding, he's still bleeding internally. The sacks

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00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 12: surrounding the heart, called the pair of cardiums filling up

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00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 12: with blood, blood spilling into the chest cavity. His brother

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Speaker 12: is not going to be able to be saved. Even

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Speaker 12: if he had been stabbed in the hospital, it would

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Speaker 12: have been difficult for them to have saved him.

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Speaker 5: And his brother was holding him, trying to hold the

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Speaker 5: blood in, and he passed. My son watched his brother.

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Speaker 2: Die in his arms from our friends at Vox four, Dallas,

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Speaker 2: Fort Worth, Neeves as Austin Metcalf's family endure a public

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Speaker 2: memorial service and burying their teen boy. Law enforcement warning

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Speaker 2: the public about disseminating false information. Doctor Kendall Crowns joining

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Speaker 2: me Chief Medical Examiner Terran County and esteemed lecturer doctor

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Speaker 2: Kendall Crowns. How would Austin's body have been preserved in

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Speaker 2: a sense so there could be a viewing or an

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Speaker 2: open casket funeral.

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Speaker 12: Well, the incisions made at autopsy, the boy shaped decision

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Speaker 12: on the chest is covered up by the clothing, and

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Speaker 12: that would also be wound to his chest from the

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Speaker 12: stabbing would be futured closed by the embalmers or the

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Speaker 12: funeral home and that would be covered up as well,

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Speaker 12: so that's covered up with the clothing. The brain is

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Speaker 12: removed during autopsies, so there's an incision made right behind

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Speaker 12: the ear in the hairline, and it goes across the

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Speaker 12: top of your head to your other ear that way.

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Speaker 12: Since it's in the hairline, it's covered up when the

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Speaker 12: funeral home puts it back together, and also when the

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Speaker 12: head's laid in the pillow, the incision line is covered

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Speaker 12: up as well, so they can have an open casket

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Speaker 12: without much problems.

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Speaker 2: As the victim's family is enduring unimaginable pain with the

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Speaker 2: brutal stab death of their son. Ellie warning the public

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Speaker 2: about misinformation for instance, a fake account online alleging the

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Speaker 2: stabbing was because of mutual combat and that Austin quotes

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Speaker 2: Sucker punched Carmelo Anthony. We also understand claims that Metcal

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Speaker 2: smashed Anthony's phone into a bleacher.

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Speaker 1: None of that has been proven.

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Speaker 2: None of that also claims that the victim was high

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Speaker 2: on drugs. That's absolutely not true. To Katie Barber my

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Speaker 2: San Antonio dot com. What is the misinformation, the intentional

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Speaker 2: propaganda being spread, it's twofold.

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Speaker 8: Most prominently is we have a fake post from the

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Speaker 8: police chief of the Frisco Police Department, like you said,

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Speaker 8: saying it was mutual combat, that Austin sucker punched him.

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Speaker 8: But we're also this fake autopsy report about Austin circulating

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Speaker 8: that says that his primary cause of death was actually

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Speaker 8: a drug overdose and secondary cause of death being the

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Speaker 8: stab wound to the chest.

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Speaker 1: And it's not just drugs. It's not just one drug.

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Speaker 8: They're saying it's molly laced with fentanyl, which is unfortunately,

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Speaker 8: a really big problem. We've seen in Texas a number

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Speaker 8: of students die unintentional ventanel overdose.

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Speaker 10: So to have.

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Speaker 8: Something like this circulated when we know that the autopsy

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Speaker 8: report hasn't been released, is not just harmful to the

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Speaker 8: case itself, but also for the family.

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Speaker 1: M d M.

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Speaker 2: A false reports that I was in Austin's system.

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Speaker 1: What more do you know, Dave.

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Speaker 7: Mac well Nanson. What we were able to infer from

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Speaker 7: the press conference with Dominique Alexander is that there were stories,

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Speaker 7: and these continue to circulate, that the two were new

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Speaker 7: one another and were at a party together and there

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Speaker 7: was an altercation at said party. Didn't happen. There was

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Speaker 7: another thing that they decided to meet up at the

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Speaker 7: track meet to settle some score, but they were both

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Speaker 7: actually on the roster of the track and field team

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Speaker 7: for their respective schools. These are the types of things

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Speaker 7: that are being floated out there irresponsibly by a number

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Speaker 7: of people. There was actually another accusation that Austin Metcalf

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Speaker 7: was a white supremacist who was attacking, you know, at

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Speaker 7: willfully attacking Carmelo Anthony with no basis in fact, just

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Speaker 7: put out there for all the world to see via

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Speaker 7: social media. And until we start holding people responsible for

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Speaker 7: this type of post, they're going to keep doing it.

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Speaker 2: Nancy, if you know or think you know anything about

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Speaker 2: the stabbing death of this young man, Austin Metcalf. Be

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Speaker 2: it for the state or the defense, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 2: This is a procedure to seek the truth, regardless of

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Speaker 2: what that truth is. If you know or think you know,

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Speaker 2: if you know a video, or if you have video

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Speaker 2: or photos, please call the tip line nine seven to

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Speaker 2: two two nine two six thousand, repeat nine seven two

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Speaker 2: two nine two six thousand. We wait as justice unfolds.

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Speaker 1: Nancy Gray signing off, goodbye friend,