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Speaker 1: our clearinghouse for Stuff you Should Know Live. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Stuff you Should Know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark and sitting

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Speaker 1: across from me Charles W. Chuckis Chinks Bryant, And sitting

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Speaker 1: to your right is ghost producer Casper Nobody. It was

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Speaker 1: Ramsey guests producer Ramsey. We've got like all these new

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Speaker 1: back and forth thinking about where life went wrong. Just us,

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Speaker 1: just us Chuck and a guy named Genghis Dinghis Khan.

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Speaker 1: Do you pronounce it Dinghis or Genghis or Chingis? Are

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Speaker 1: general Genghis pronunciation. Okay, right, although his what was his

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Speaker 1: birth name, Timujin doesn't even Genghis Khan isn't even his

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Speaker 1: real name. Everybody, so calm down. It's Temujin or Temujin. Man.

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Speaker 1: Did you see that statue. I've seen it before. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's enormous. Have you seen in person? Now, I've not

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Speaker 1: look like one of those. It's you know, surrounded by

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Speaker 1: burger kings. Oh good, looks like there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: land around it. Well, Mongolia has a lot of land,

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Speaker 1: then so the smallest units, those that hundred thousand man

423
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 1: army boiled down to units as small as ten people. Yeah,

424
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: that was the individual unit was a ten person cavalry group,

425
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,879
Speaker 1: and yeah, you could just say send five groups in

426
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: or a thousand groups in or whatever. Yeah, there you go.

427
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 1: And he would also, uh, he would also as he

428
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: went he would pick up whatever weaponry and tactics that

429
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: other armies used and use those. Because one thing that

430
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Um was pretty clear in reading this Genghis Khan did

431
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 1: not like walls in walled cities. It ticked him off,

432
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,200
Speaker 1: especially for some reason. Why would you do that? You know?

433
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: So he you know, he got catapults and things like that,

434
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 1: and he would, you would do some awful things like

435
00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: with ladders and catapults, he would fling diseased animals like

436
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 1: that wasn't I don't know. He wasn't the only one

437
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: to do that, but some of the seems like Lord though,

438
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 1: the thing with the cats and the birds, Yeah, he

439
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 1: told one city that he'd spare them if they gave

440
00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: him a thousand cats and ten thousand birds. And they

441
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 1: gathered up there ten thousand birds, which I guess they

442
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: had in the thousand cats and gave them to him.

443
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: And then he set the cats and the birds on

444
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,320
Speaker 1: fire and flung them over the walls to start fires

445
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 1: in the city. Well, supposedly cod cotton got to them

446
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: and set them on fire. Well that's much better, but

447
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure the fire spreads. It does seem a acry full. Yeah,

448
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if I believe that apocryphal. By the way,

449
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,119
Speaker 1: I just learned in like the last year or so,

450
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: I mean that made up. You didn't know that's you

451
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: never heard the word or plenty of times I just

452
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: didn't realize. I always assumed it meant like biblical and

453
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: end of time. Interesting because it's resemblance to apocalypse. I've

454
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 1: got one more for you. What's that? I just this

455
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 1: week learned what kudi gras actually means. I thought it

456
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 1: meant like the cream of the crop, the ultimate it's

457
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: the death blow, like there's nothing after it, not because

458
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,400
Speaker 1: it's the best, because you just had your head cut off. Yeah,

459
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: the kuda, Yeah, yeah, the final blow. Just learned that

460
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 1: this week. Yeah, I think I knew that. You know

461
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: what word I used to always get wrong? Was dubious?

462
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: Did you think about pot? I don't know. Yeah, can

463
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: you score me some dubious? Did you ever listen to

464
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: funk Dubious? They were like this rap group from the

465
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,679
Speaker 1: nineties US they were eight, they were they all they

466
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 1: want to do is have fun in the midst of

467
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:08,920
Speaker 1: like the whole gangster totally remember that boy? They they

468
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: just went away. I haven't heard that name, and I

469
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: think they had like one album in that was it.

470
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: What was their big hit? I don't even remember, but

471
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: all but it had to do with pot probably so um.

472
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: All right, So he's got Mongolia pretty well taken care of.

473
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 1: What What did you think dubious meant? I joke instead

474
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: of letting your answer, No, I don't. I don't remember

475
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 1: what I thought it meant, but I think I just

476
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: used to get it wrong. We'll go back to funk dubious. Uh.

477
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 1: So he's got Mongolia pretty well under control, and he

478
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: is insatiable though Genghis Khan is. He starts looking around

479
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: and he's like, China is big do a pretty pretty

480
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: pretty and I think even though they are wealthy and

481
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: tough and have a lot of dudes to fight, I

482
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: think I can take him because I'm Genghis Khan, which

483
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: is a nuts so thing to say at that time.

484
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: It's depending on which of the dynasties in China you

485
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: were talking about, because I think there were at least

486
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: three major ones. Well, he's like, all of them, let's

487
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 1: just go one at a time. Yeah, so that's what

488
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: he did. Yeah, that's exactly what he did. He started

489
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: with the and there's I'm sorry everybody, I'm having trouble

490
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: keeping up with all of the names. But the Tangots. Yeah,

491
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: the Kingdom of Jijia. That is how I would probably

492
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 1: pronounce it, not dixiea chang No. Yeah, thinking about that, Yeah,

493
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: Ji and the Tangets, And uh, I think this was

494
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:40,760
Speaker 1: sort of a test, his biggest test militarily at the time. Yeah,

495
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: it was. He'd been fighting other tribes on the steps

496
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: that to consolidate them and killing off the resistors. They

497
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: didn't have cities. The Tangots were the first ones that

498
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: he encountered that had like cities with walls that were

499
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 1: fortified that he needed to figure out how to lay

500
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: siege to. Yeah, and he he did, to the point

501
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: where the king finally said, all right, you were my master,

502
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 1: here are my troops, and here's the princess bride as well,

503
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: because I've heard you get around and Genghas Khan said,

504
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: as you wish, that's right, and that what he said,

505
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: I think so. Uh So the next he said, all right,

506
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 1: how about this other region, the Chin Kingdom, and he

507
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: faced a seventy thousand man army and it said virtually

508
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: wiped it out in this article. So he's working his

509
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 1: way up here now. Yeah, so he actually hit the

510
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: Chins twice from what I understand, and this How Stuff

511
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: Works article says that happened in two thousand thirteen, So

512
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 1: I'll bet the Chins were quite surprised to see Genghas

513
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: Khan show up five years ago. Yeah, I wonder why.

514
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it says that came he came back and

515
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: got a bunch of silk and gold and got a

516
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: bunch of engineers. I wonder if that was the the

517
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 1: purpose of that mission was, like, hey, I don't think

518
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: we properly rated them. Yeah, because this was two years

519
00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: after the first one, I guess that's all all it

520
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: was that he wanted some more silk and gold, and

521
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: again in appropriating weapons like crossbows, catapults, and because it's China,

522
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: early versions of explosives, right, and so he's using all

523
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: the stuff he's not married to, just the hook pole

524
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: and just the saber. He'll try out anything he sees worked, right,

525
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: So he's he's knocked out the first two dynasties, he's

526
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: brought them under his control. He now controls a significant

527
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: portion of China, all of the steps around Mongolia, and

528
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: he's got his sets, his sights set on the biggest

529
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: one of the three, the Jin dynasty, and he um

530
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 1: actually got in contact with them, or else they got

531
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: in contact with him first. But the emperor of the

532
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 1: Jin dynasty, this is an advanced civilization at this point,

533
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: very wealthy, maybe the most advanced and wealthy civilization on

534
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: the planet at the time. Genghis Khan is a backwoods

535
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 1: redneck horse rider who just happened to get lucky a

536
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: couple of times, caught the other two dynasties slipping. That's

537
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: what the emperor of the of the Jin dynasty is thinking. Yeah,

538
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: he's thinking, you're gonna be my slaves. Yeah, He's like,

539
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: you've done pretty good, kid. I'll tell you what. I'll

540
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: let you. I'll let you look over my land in

541
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: the south. You'll be my vassal. And um, here here's

542
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 1: the princess bride. I hear you like him. But it

543
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: did not work out that way, No, it didn't. He

544
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: actually successfully defeated the most advanced, wealthiest society on the

545
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: planet at the time. The Jinn's slaughtered thousands and thousands

546
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: of people. Well, that's how you do it, I guess.

547
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: And these three campaigns, these these are huge, enormous campaigns.

548
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: China was extremely populous at the time, and the number

549
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: of people who died, most of the people who died

550
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: under Genghis Khan's rule through war and conquest happened during

551
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,640
Speaker 1: these three China camp pains. Yeah, about thirty about thirty

552
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: million people died. And this is over I mean ten years.

553
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: I think less than ten years, Yeah, I think. So,

554
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: it's nuts man. Yeah, so he wanted to continue going,

555
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: I guess West twelve nineteen. He made his way through

556
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: modern day Central Asia like Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, Iran, and the

557
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 1: Shah Mohammad there said he killed an ambassador that they

558
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,959
Speaker 1: had sent forward from a trading caravan and he had

559
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: a big walled city and he's like, I'm gonna be fine.

560
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: I'm not sweating this guy, and uh, he burned the

561
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 1: city down. Genghis Khan did, and including a thousand of

562
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 1: the soldiers who were in a mosque hiding out, killed

563
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: about a hundred thousand people. But of course like you

564
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: said earlier, he spared the skilled craftsmen and workers, right.

565
00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 1: And this is the quarsam Kuara's and I even practice

566
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 1: this one the charasm Choorism Empire, which um it's capital

567
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 1: city that he sacked is now in Uzbekistan, but I've

568
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: seen it called mostly like Afghanistan, Iran for the most part.

569
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,800
Speaker 1: This is the area it covered, Iran is what I

570
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: see it mostly compared to these days. Yeah, And things

571
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: are starting to get a little out of hand at

572
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: this point. And and it's basically sort of due to

573
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 1: the fact that he there was he went too far.

574
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: There were too many people, too much land. Um, when

575
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,359
Speaker 1: you control your I think that the guy who wrote

576
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:44,640
Speaker 1: that article you sent said that they weren't producers of anything,

577
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:50,839
Speaker 1: the Mongols, yeah, or or tradesmen. They were conquerors, that's it. Yeah.

578
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: And that's not like you got to diversify. From what

579
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: I understand, they didn't have a written language. Um, they

580
00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. They just conquered people and took go

581
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: over your land and then leeched off of you. Yeah,

582
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 1: which is a good skill to to get going. But

583
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: if that's all you can do, I think he likened

584
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 1: it to a shark needing to feed, Like, eventually you

585
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 1: run out of lands to conquer, and then in the

586
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,400
Speaker 1: interior it's such a huge corporation at this point it

587
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: gets unwieldy. So Genghas kind recognized this. At some point

588
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 1: he saw that he had basically a change of heart

589
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: about agriculture, about walled cities, about a sedentary lifestyle. And

590
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 1: I think he mostly saw like, oh, you can make

591
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: way more wealth this way. So he turned from conquering

592
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: as much toward figuring out how to administer this area

593
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,400
Speaker 1: that he conquered. Again, Eurasia is conquered. It's under this

594
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: guy's This guy's had never never been united before and

595
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 1: has hasn't been united since, even under Soviet Soviet rule.

596
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 1: The Genghis Khan's empire is bigger than that, right, um,

597
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: And so he's put it together and he's like, what

598
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: do I do now? And we'll talk about that after

599
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:36,239
Speaker 1: this message about that, okay, Chuck, So Genghis Khan has

600
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: conquered Eurasia and said, what now? What now, Eurigel, what

601
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: do you guys want to do now? I'm done with killing?

602
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: Not really the well he died, Yeah, I guess that's right. Yeah,

603
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: and this is no one knows quite how he died still. Uh.

604
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: Some people say he had a fall from a horse

605
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: and was injured eventually died. Other people said, at my

606
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: have been typhus. There are a few other theories floating

607
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: around out there, but yeah, like shot in the knee

608
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: with an arrow is my favorite. Yeah, which I guess

609
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:15,319
Speaker 1: just infection. I would die from pain. Yeah. Uh, it's

610
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: interesting though. In August seven, when he was on his deathbed,

611
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:21,919
Speaker 1: like one of the last things he did was say,

612
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: you don't remember the Tangets, go kill all of them, right,

613
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: that's what he did. I think they were the first

614
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: people he conquered, right, they were the ji Um people, Okay,

615
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: the first people in China. And when he went to

616
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:39,719
Speaker 1: go Um go attack the choir z M empire, he

617
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: demanded that they send some troops his reinforcement, and they

618
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 1: said no. He defeated the choirs M and Um turned

619
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: around and went right over to Jija. It was like,

620
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: you guys are your toast. You're in trouble. And that

621
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: was his last act as as a living person. Yeah.

622
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: He was succeeded by one of his on ogadi who

623
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: took that stuff all the way to Europe, had a

624
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,759
Speaker 1: bunch of sons, and I guess we might as well

625
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: talk about his lineage. It's very famously the Genghis Khan.

626
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: I mean, what is it like one of every two

627
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:19,000
Speaker 1: d men, something like point five per cent of the

628
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: total global population is directly descended from him. That's amazing,

629
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: it's amazing and gross. That's a lot of people. Yeah,

630
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: he was about sixty five ish when he died, and

631
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: no one knows where he's buried. No, because they killed

632
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Speaker 1: everyone on the way to the funeral this one. And

633
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Speaker 1: then also they rode over his his grave with horses.

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Speaker 1: I looked up. Have you do you ever go on cora? Uh? Sure?

635
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Speaker 1: And then it's great man, Yeah, like you can you

636
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Speaker 1: can usually tell who knows what they're talking about. Of

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Speaker 1: the answers, the multipla and frequently it's most of the bowl.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a very it's a good serious like it's

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Speaker 1: a good place to get info that you should then

640
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Speaker 1: go double check. Yeah, but agreed, though it's not like

641
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Speaker 1: the old days of what was the terrible when years

642
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: and years ago, where you would ask question who questions?

643
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Speaker 1: Yeah probably yeah, yeah, something like that. Yeah, there and

644
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: there are a lot of platforms like this. This is

645
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: a pretty good it's not corrupt yet. How about that? Yeah?

646
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: I think is pretty good. Actually, so um, I went

647
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: on Core. This one you can't really look up. But um,

648
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Speaker 1: this one guy two people like. The question was why

649
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: was Genghas con buried in secret? I think? And two

650
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: people said, um, they didn't want a grave robbed. Um.

651
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: They wanted to make sure that the transfer of power

652
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: to his son was complete, so they had to keep

653
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: his death a secret. That makes sense. Yeah, yeah, this

654
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,280
Speaker 1: one guy said, don't be idiots. He's a little arrogant,

655
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: but he said, like, don't be idiots. Genghas Khan was

656
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: shamanistic person, religiously fervent. He would have gone one of

657
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: two ways. They would have cremated him and just spread

658
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: his ashes, or they would have done a sky burial.

659
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: Remember we talked about before where they just left him

660
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Speaker 1: on the mountainside for the vultures to pick over. Um,

661
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 1: it wouldn't have buried him with grieve goods. He would

662
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: have been embarrassed with that. So he's the only person

663
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: I saw say something like that. But it gave me pause.

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Speaker 1: It made me wonder if if the hidden grave is

665
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Speaker 1: just you know, just a more lower about Genghis Khan

666
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 1: and off the mark. Interesting. Well, his legacy looms large still,

667
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 1: not only in his uh, his lineage from his loins,

668
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 1: his overactive loins just leaching out goop. But depending on

669
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Speaker 1: who you're talking to, Um, well, he definitely did some things.

670
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: He opened up trade, Um, the West got things like

671
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: noodles and tea and playing cards. He perhaps founded the

672
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: very first version of what would later be at post office,

673
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: which is what's it called the yam Yeah, like a

674
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Speaker 1: pony Express. Yeah, like those different stations, the Pony Express. Yeah,

675
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:17,920
Speaker 1: like straight up, but like six years before the Pony Express, Yeah, exactly.

676
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: But depending on who you're talking to, Some people lay

677
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 1: almost all of modern warfare at his feet, which is

678
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: sort of interesting because you can sort of draw a

679
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: line back to his tactics that and eventually would become

680
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: the Crusades or the uh the slaughtering of the Aztecs

681
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,359
Speaker 1: and the Incas. Yeah, so they like they would learn

682
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,320
Speaker 1: from him and then do that, right, because it was

683
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: more of that cultural conveyor belt the right. So they

684
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: say that he conquered the kars M Empire, came in

685
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:56,399
Speaker 1: contact with with Islam Um and taught them ferocity, which

686
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: the Europeans learned during the crusade, and they took that

687
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: for city back to Europe and then eventually to the

688
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: New World, which they used on the Native Americans they

689
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: found there. And somebody said, um, no, the Europeans were

690
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: already well versed in ferocity and brutality and warfare. They

691
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: didn't need to learn it from getting his Khan. That

692
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's wrong, but it does. It's the suggestion

693
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Speaker 1: that the Europeans were naive to brutality and warfares is incorrect. Well,

694
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Speaker 1: it's complete bs and um. The author of that article

695
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: also makes a good point, and like you can't you

696
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: can't look it and judge him by today's lens. He

697
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 1: wasn't anymore brutal than anyone else back then, it was

698
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,080
Speaker 1: just the number. Yeah, he just did it better. That's

699
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 1: to me though, So I guess then maybe my problem

700
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: is is like celebrating people who have killed tons of

701
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: people like that's what I have a problem at at

702
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: base because it's a great man, great man history. You know,

703
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 1: it bugs me. It bugs me too. We didn't come,

704
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 1: We didn't come across the way, did we so but

705
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Speaker 1: just just just by carrying on the tradition of talking

706
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: about this guy, and you know, there's you definitely keep

707
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: his his little flame burning well and there's a what

708
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty ft statue of him. Yeah, like he's

709
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: still very much revered. Well, let's talk about like if

710
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: you were in Mongolia right now, you're probably pretty mad

711
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: at me and Chuck apologies for that. We're really it's

712
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: the great Man history thing we have a problem with.

713
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:29,680
Speaker 1: But Um in Mongolia, he is known as the founder

714
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Speaker 1: of Mongolia, them the great, basically the great, the greatest

715
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Speaker 1: leader Mongolia has ever known, and possibly the world if

716
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:42,160
Speaker 1: you're a Mongolian Um and during that, during the Soviet

717
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: occupation of Mongolia, you were not allowed to talk about him. Yeah,

718
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: they took him out of history books. Yeah, because they

719
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: were trying to stamp out any kind of nationalism in

720
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Speaker 1: Mongolia at the time. So the moment the Soviets left

721
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union dissolved, they were like Genghas Khan, Gigas Khan.

722
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: Genghas Khan built a statue of him, they named him

723
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: an airport after him, they put him on currency. So

724
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: he's definitely revered over there. But I think that that

725
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: um art that the author of the article. I think

726
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 1: his name is Frank mclin almost positive. Yeah, it's great,

727
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 1: Frank mclin. Um he wrote this wonderful article called the

728
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 1: Brutal Brilliance of Genghis Khan. But he he points out, like,

729
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 1: whatever you think of the guy, even if he was

730
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: the same as his contemporaries, and it still seems alien

731
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,480
Speaker 1: to you, Like, think about your own leaders. Your own

732
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: leaders send people to to to die on the battlefield too,

733
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 1: and they're revered as well, aren't not noble? Right? So

734
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: the the the point is is, I guess, don't hate

735
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: on Genghis Khan. Hate hate the game, not the player, right,

736
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I guess. So, wow, boy, this guy took a deep

737
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:58,719
Speaker 1: left turned in it. Well it is interesting. Yeah, you

738
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: can talk about this dude forever. Yeah. He also makes

739
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,920
Speaker 1: the point to that the Mongols were um what he

740
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: called culturally unbalanced. So he's like, you know, at least

741
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 1: the Europeans, while they were slaughtering and killing, we're giving

742
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: us the divine comedy and Carmena Barana and these great

743
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 1: cathedrals and operas, whereas the Mongols were just barbarian Raiders

744
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: and Butcher's all slaughter, no substance. That's a T shirt.

745
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: Very famously too in the movies, Kingis Khan was played twice,

746
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: once by John Wayne believe it or not, and The

747
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: Conqueror and then Omar Sharif. Okay, so Egyptian. Also not

748
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: close to Mongolean. Um. I don't know if it's better

749
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 1: worse than John Wayne is probably the same. I think

750
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 1: it's worse or no better better. Well now it'll be

751
00:45:56,440 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackman. No, I think Holly would changed some what

752
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: but like five years ago they would have been like,

753
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: what about Jason Momoa, Matt Damono Manchu mustaches on him?

754
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: But they just picked Momoa because like, he looks tough,

755
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: who's he and he looks sort of ethnic. He's a

756
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: guy that plays Aquaman and is on very versatile actect

757
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 1: The Thrones probably but and I even looked up Mongolian

758
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 1: American actors to see if there was anyone out there

759
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: who they could tap into, and I don't think there

760
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: are a lot of them. Oh, probably have to be

761
00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: some some good unknown So speaking of looking like a Mongolian, Okay,

762
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: got one last thing, where you done? I'm done. The

763
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: Mongolians were really really good at propaganda. And one of

764
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: the ways that they showed this was in Iran, in

765
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: modern day Iran, the Coras chars um Man Empire, when

766
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: they subjugated it. One of the things they did that

767
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: say said, we are we don't have an alphabet, we

768
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: don't write things down, but you guys do, and we

769
00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: want to put that to good use. You have great artists.

770
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 1: We want you to do a history of the Mongols.

771
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: And the scribe said, sure, we'll do that, and we

772
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 1: want you to do a history of the world. All

773
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 1: the great leaders in the world, all the great civilizations

774
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 1: in the world, we want you to do those. So

775
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: they did. They built this, They wrote this huge compendium,

776
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: a universal history of the world. But the Mongols had

777
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: them illustrate, like illuminate the text, and they had them

778
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 1: whenever they drew a leader or a conqueror or an army,

779
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 1: they drew them as Mongols. So they insinuated themselves into

780
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: history as basically the the progenitors of all greatness, and

781
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: thus justified the subjugation of this area um And they

782
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,520
Speaker 1: did it through propaganda. They had like all that like copied,

783
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:00,920
Speaker 1: you know, hand copied, and distributed it as widely as

784
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: they could. Wow, isn't that interesting? Yeah? There you go.

785
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: That's it all right. If you want to know more

786
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: about Mongolia or Genghis Khan or any of that stuff,

787
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Speaker 1: you can type those words into the search bar how

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Speaker 1: stuff works. Pick up a book you Denghis And since

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00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: Chuck said that, it's time for listener ma'n Hey, guys,

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00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: recently listen to the UM show about burying Ferraris. I

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00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: want to share another cool story about an almost buried car.

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Speaker 1: Two thirteen, Brazilian billionaire Count chin Quing host Scarpa, made

793
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Speaker 1: headlines when he announced he wanted to bury his five

794
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollar Bentley like the Pharaohs did with their

795
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: precious possessions, so he could supposedly right around the Afterlife

796
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: and Style attracted tons of press and social media buzz,

797
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,280
Speaker 1: with many people outraged he would do something so selfish.

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00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: On the day of the burial, tons of Brazilian press

799
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 1: and media crew show up to his house to see

800
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: him Barry's Bentley, But moments before the cars lower in

801
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,320
Speaker 1: the ground, the count pulls a major plot twist and

802
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 1: announces he won't be bearing the car, and he reveals

803
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 1: true intention to create awareness uh for organ donation. Wow,

804
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 1: because people are buried with something valuable, their organs and

805
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,800
Speaker 1: it was all a stunt and the use of social

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Speaker 1: media and buzz marketing and create awareness for organ donation.

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Speaker 1: That is fantastic. Man, I want a cool guy. Really

808
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: interesting anyway, guys, A big fan of your show, learned

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Speaker 1: a lot from your stories over the years, so I

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Speaker 1: wanted to take this chance to share this cool story

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Speaker 1: with you. Uh. And that is from Kate Miller who

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Speaker 1: was looking forward to more stories. Yeah, thanks a lot, Kate.

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Speaker 1: I definitely had not heard about that. It's a good one. Um.

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