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Speaker 1: onto the court like it's March. It's March. And then

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00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,920
Speaker 1: everyone got in a little uproar about it, and people

429
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: are questioning the integrity of the game and what does

430
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 1: this mean for the game. And I'm over there like

431
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,679
Speaker 1: it's pretty healthy to have this. Hypel and Eli Drinkwitz

432
00:22:56,720 --> 00:23:00,159
Speaker 1: going back and forth in the SEC. It's okay. It's

433
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:02,360
Speaker 1: okay if you have a fight every now and then,

434
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,640
Speaker 1: it's okay. If coaches don't love each other, that's okay.

435
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,400
Speaker 1: It's competition. You don't get the highest levels of competition

436
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: without some healthy amounts of hatred seeping into the room.

437
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 1: Not real hatred. It's not like you're wishing harrm on anyone.

438
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,600
Speaker 1: But competitively, within the world of sports, we have this world.

439
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: We have a world on a football field where you

440
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,520
Speaker 1: can do things on Saturday to another person that would

441
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,919
Speaker 1: land you behind bars if you did it on the street.

442
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 1: That's a wonderful thing. Everyone consents, everyone signs up for it.

443
00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:38,200
Speaker 1: You know what you're getting into. Even by today's rules, defensively,

444
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,800
Speaker 1: you can still do some pretty ugly things to people. Well,

445
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 1: you can also say things and think things and feel

446
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,879
Speaker 1: things that you don't need to be feeling in your

447
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 1: normal life. But this is sports, so it's okay. It's

448
00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: okay now with that in mind, Earlier today I took

449
00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,000
Speaker 1: it upon myself. Colin, here's a good endpoint for you.

450
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: After I take a sip from this chalice. Here's a

451
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: good endpoint. So earlier today I was feeling the hate,

452
00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:12,080
Speaker 1: and I said, I asked, you, guys, who do you

453
00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 1: think the most hated teams in this sport are. I

454
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: don't really care what your metrics are. I don't care

455
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 1: what your criteria is. Who are the most hated teams

456
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 1: in this sport? And boy, it took off and a

457
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: lot of you said Notre Dame. And I got several

458
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: teams here and I got my own feelings on this,

459
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 1: but a lot of you said Notre Dame. I think

460
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:31,440
Speaker 1: that's partially fueled by the independent status, and you're aggravated

461
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,239
Speaker 1: that they get treated differently than everyone else. Now my

462
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 1: counter to that is, I know a lot of my

463
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 1: audience is younger. You guys probably weren't around in the eighties,

464
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: But it may shock you to learn if you went

465
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: back there, a whole lot of these teams were independent.

466
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:48,719
Speaker 1: A whole lot of them were like go look at

467
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,959
Speaker 1: the national champions, look at the conferences they played in.

468
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: You'll find a lot of them are independent. The Notre

469
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: Dame take on all that is. Hold on, you're criticizing

470
00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 1: us for being independent. We're not the ones who changed you.

471
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: Guys changed. All of you caved, and now you're criticizing

472
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: us because we held firm. I feel the same way

473
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 1: about the Rose Bowl. By the way, they get special

474
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: media treatment, probably a source of a lot of the hatred.

475
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,439
Speaker 1: And now I can't deny that they get talked a

476
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,320
Speaker 1: lot about on this show. They get talked a lot

477
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: about nationally. Now where I do disagree is when folks

478
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 1: start calling them overrated, and I've done that segment already.

479
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: When you talk about their weak strength of schedule, it's

480
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 1: statistically it's just false, but nevertheless people feel it. So yeah,

481
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: Notre Dame's actually got to be on that list no

482
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: matter how you slice it. Michigan, though Michigan was one

483
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,600
Speaker 1: of the most popular submissions today, a lot of folks

484
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,800
Speaker 1: hate Michigan. A lot of Michigan hate out there ironically,

485
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: I've been accused of it, and I actually don't feel it.

486
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,520
Speaker 1: I know my heart, I don't feel it. Hold on, no,

487
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 1: I don't feel it, but a lot of you do.

488
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 1: Now I'm a believer that this was born a lot

489
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,000
Speaker 1: within the past twelve to twenty four months, not all

490
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: of it. Some of you have always hated Michigan, but

491
00:25:57,880 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: I think a lot of you have come to hate Michigan.

492
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: And whenever the past, whenever in the past Michigan's name

493
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: was thrown in the elite conversation, a lot of you

494
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: who don't particularly like them, you always got to point

495
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: to the ring finger because they didn't have any at

496
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: least this generation, they didn't have any. Well, then they

497
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: won a national title last year, and a lot of

498
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,719
Speaker 1: you think they did it very underhandedly. I know what

499
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:27,760
Speaker 1: the pushback is from Michigan circles. I'm speaking for the masses, Okay,

500
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: you can't deny a lot of them think you cheated

501
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: your way to a title, or you cheated in the

502
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 1: process of winning a title, whether it was legit at

503
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: the end or not, like a lot of people think that.

504
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: So that's a source of the hatred. But also they

505
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:42,119
Speaker 1: just shut down one of your most popular talking points.

506
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,600
Speaker 1: That's really why you hate it. You hate it because

507
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: if you're an Ohio State fan, if you're a Notre

508
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: Dame fan, you got to for a long time look

509
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,720
Speaker 1: at them when they ran their mouth and say, what

510
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: do you have to show for it? What have you won?

511
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,000
Speaker 1: Where are your rings? I'm looking at the trophy case

512
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: over here. That thing looks like it's from the nineties. Oh,

513
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: because it is. And then all of a sudden they

514
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: win one. They win one doing it a different way

515
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: than you thought college football had dictated it had to

516
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: be done. So you can't use that anymore, can't use it.

517
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 1: You could throw an asterisks in their face if you

518
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,240
Speaker 1: want to. NCAA will ultimately rule on that, or will

519
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: they since they've paused operation essentially, so Michigan, Yes, they're

520
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: up there. Alabama like yes, Obviously Alabama's been the answer

521
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 1: to who is the most hated team in college football

522
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 1: for the better part of two decades now thanks to

523
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,600
Speaker 1: Nick Saban. I think in his latter years a lot

524
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: more people came to have a healthy amount of respect

525
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: for the run he had been on. But that didn't

526
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 1: mean they didn't hate Alabama like I get the opportunity

527
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: to go to any game I want to every weekend,

528
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: so I've been in the building on the road when

529
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: they've gone into an opposing team's venue is crazy. It's

530
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,360
Speaker 1: got to be like the NBA equivalent of when La

531
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: comes to town, or like Dallas in the NFL. It's

532
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: pretty wild, and it's like that for all the big teams,

533
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,200
Speaker 1: but Bama under Nick Saban was like a different level

534
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,360
Speaker 1: of It's like watching the Yankees go on the road,

535
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: Like that's kind of what it was like in terms

536
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: of road atmospheres, and I got to see a lot

537
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: of them. But really it all boiled down to winning

538
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: like that, that's all. It boiled down to. One team

539
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: wins a whole lot, and as a result, you start

540
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 1: convincing yourself, well, the sport's tilted in their favor. Well,

541
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: the sports tilted in a lot of teams favors. Sports

542
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,719
Speaker 1: been tilted in Texas's favor for a long time. Sports

543
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: been tilted. I would argue the entire acc outside of

544
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: Clemson has underachieved for a long time. So it's not

545
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: just that it was tilted in their favor. Was that

546
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,360
Speaker 1: it was tilted in their favor then they took advantage

547
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: of it. Then it became really tilted in their favor. Yes,

548
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: that's hateable. I could see absolutely how that would be hated.

549
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Longhorns, I was not going to get

550
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: too far down this list without Texas being on the

551
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:56,120
Speaker 1: very very short list of hated teams in college football.

552
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: You know, I got two thoughts on this. The first

553
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: is I do understand in my world, I understand why

554
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: I and many other people talk about Texas a lot

555
00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 1: because of what the traffic does when we talk about them.

556
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 1: But there's an accusation that gets thrown out a lot

557
00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: about Texas, and that is we all you know that

558
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: this is what is used when we all build Texas up,

559
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: when we all overrate Texas. Well, not everyone's done that.

560
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't think the words the words Texas is back

561
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,400
Speaker 1: came out of my mouth until last year. I don't

562
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 1: want to. Don't quote me on that. I would be

563
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,920
Speaker 1: willing to have someone research that. All our shows are public,

564
00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: but like I didn't participate in all that. But I

565
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,640
Speaker 1: also didn't do the whole Texas sucks. The sports passed

566
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: them by. They're the most overrated program in history. They're

567
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: a shell of what you claim they are. Those were

568
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: the extremes in the middle. Was and always will be

569
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: a program that, if operating at peak efficiency, would be

570
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 1: the superpower of college football. That's always been the case,

571
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: and there have been a lot of internal reasons why

572
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,600
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to reach that summit, and they're

573
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: not there. Now. They're as close as they've been in

574
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: a long time, but they're still not there. I had

575
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: a guy say, you know, I wish I could buy

576
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: Texas for what they're worth and sell them for what

577
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: they think they're worth. And I love that. I love

578
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: that because that's an old memoism. I loved that. So

579
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:26,320
Speaker 1: I mean Longhorn Network. I think that has a chapter

580
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,080
Speaker 1: in the book of why Texas is so hated. But

581
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: just the overall self importance, I know what you guys

582
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: are talking about. I love Texas because Texas has been

583
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,239
Speaker 1: good to me. But I know what you guys are

584
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: talking about. Ohio State's the same reason. Ohio State's also

585
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: on this list. But I will tell you what the

586
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: whole college football playoffication of college football has done. I

587
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: had someone tell me earlier today, Ohio State, they gotta

588
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: be the most hated team in college football. And I

589
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: was going back and forth with some folks and he

590
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 1: was one of them, and I said why, out of curiosity.

591
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: He said, well, they're the most overrated team in America.

592
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: I said, how's that? He said, well, they've only won

593
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: two national titles this millennium, and that is not the

594
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: flex you think it is. If you're winning, on average,

595
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: one national championship about every twelve years, historically, you're at

596
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 1: the very top of the sport. This is where Bama

597
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: and Nick Saban kind of ruined things because it threw

598
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: so out of whack. What proper perspective on college football

599
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: is Ohio State has two titles this millennium. That's actually

600
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: a positive, it's not a negative. And they've played for

601
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: more than that. They've won two titles. And also they've

602
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: been in the hunt almost every year. There have only

603
00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: been a couple of years where they weren't in the hunt,

604
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: not because media fantasized it, because they recruited, developed, had

605
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 1: rock solid culture and stability, and there were some hiccups

606
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: along the way, but it never derailed them. It was

607
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: just a brief brief volume down volume, right back up

608
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: the next year. They've always been in the Hunt. So

609
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: if you're always there and you afford yourself the ability

610
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 1: to take a swing in November every year, you'll land.

611
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: Some you'll miss more than you land, because it's really

612
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: hard to win at the highest levels. But man, like,

613
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: if you hate them because they're Ohio State, Okay, if

614
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: you think Ryan Day got handed a job and displays

615
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 1: an attitude that's not quite in line with what he's

616
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: worked to earn. If you think that, okay, if you're

617
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: a Michigan fan, you just hate him because you were

618
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:37,600
Speaker 1: born Okay. But the whole overrated thing, you know, I

619
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: most of the time disagree when programs are being called that,

620
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: especially when you're in the hunt every year. So yeah,

621
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: part of that's valid, and the other part I could

622
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: do without USC and Oregon I think belong in the

623
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: same box here. So USC, once upon a time was

624
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: right there. USC under Pete Carroll was right there. And

625
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: let me tell you, as I've told you many times,

626
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: I was a kid in the South as that run

627
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: was going going on, and it was they hated USC

628
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 1: in the South more than a lot of teams hated

629
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 1: their rival because they looked at the rival and they thought, hey,

630
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: man at least we both got that SEC bumper sticker

631
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: on our pickup. Those folks out there, they're wearing sunglasses

632
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: getting off the bus. They got celebrities at practice. Hollywood

633
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: and college football aren't supposed to mix. Got Snoop Dogg?

634
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Who's that he's on this? He's running routes out here,

635
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, let him do what? That would never fly

636
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: down here? Man, if they had to play SEC football,

637
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 1: they'd have a bloody lip and they'd have a lesson

638
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,000
Speaker 1: to take back to La. Oh what they just shout

639
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: out Auburn and Jorden Hair Stadium, Well that sucks. Yeah,

640
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: that used to be usc Not so much anymore, could

641
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: be again, not so much anymore. Oregon has never been

642
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 1: hated nationally. Oregon, I think in a lot of cases,

643
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: has been a lot of folks second favorite team for

644
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: a long time. But that's because Oregon has not become

645
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: a true national championship superpower. But if they did, I

646
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 1: think Oregon would r it up the list of most

647
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: hated teams in America because all of a sudden, that

648
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: association with Nike would start to be viewed through a

649
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: different lens. All these other Nike schools would look and say, way,

650
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: who whoa whoa, So so we've got a we've got

651
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 1: a licensing deal with with the swoosh over there as well.

652
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: How come this team just because they're they're phill night

653
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 1: you up in his backyard up there, how come they

654
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 1: get so disproportionately propped up? And you'd also look and

655
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: you'd probably hear Dan landing, Dan landing that shy away

656
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 1: from many mics and many cameras, as you've noticed. And

657
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: that doesn't rub you the wrong way when you're playing

658
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: from an underdog role or when you're playing Colorado, cause

659
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: a lot of you dislike Dion as well. But man,

660
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: if they start to have the bully pulpit, if they

661
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: start to have success in the playoff, especially the expanded

662
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: Area or era, and especially if they win a title,

663
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: that'll start to rub some folks the wrong way. And

664
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 1: they'd love it. They would, they would breathe it in

665
00:34:55,920 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: like oxygen. But that could happen so USC just returning

666
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: to their former glory or Oregon ascending to that for

667
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: the first time, they would be hated. Miami, I mean

668
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: right now is not on this list nearly as much

669
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: as they would have been a generation to go. Miami

670
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: at one point was the number one most hated team

671
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: in America by a mile. Miami was so hated that

672
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: it made American college football fans actively root for Alabama

673
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,480
Speaker 1: in a national title game against them. It made college

674
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 1: football Americans root for Notre Dame things that once upon

675
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: a time these people swore they'd never do. Miami created

676
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 1: such a monster that it was like the enemy of

677
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,279
Speaker 1: my friends. What what? What? What's happening? Right? Did I

678
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 1: just say roll tied? Did I just say go irish?

679
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: You did? When they played Miami. That's how crazy college

680
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: football got for a little while, and how upside down

681
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 1: and on its ear Miami turned college football. Now they're

682
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 1: not there now, and you tear down the Orange Bowl,

683
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: and you go an extended period without any kind of

684
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: postseason success, and people start to question whether you'll ever

685
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,919
Speaker 1: be there again, which is totally fair. I don't even

686
00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: try and silence that, because I wonder right along with you, guys.

687
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: All I'm here to tell you is, in a hypothetical world,

688
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 1: if they get there again, we would have the in

689
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: some cases the pleasure or in some cases the horror,

690
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: depending on your perspective of seeing a whole new generation

691
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:24,040
Speaker 1: of people from Virginia to Nevada and everywhere in between

692
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 1: discover Wow, I, like my forefathers, also have a hatred

693
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:35,439
Speaker 1: for Miami that I never knew existed. And lastly, I'm

694
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: not even gonna say Colorado here. I'm just gonna say

695
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:46,359
Speaker 1: Dion Dion Sanders. Wherever he goes, if Dion wins, if

696
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: they go above five hundred and surprise people this year,

697
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: wherever he is down the road, if he starts winning,

698
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 1: legitimately winning, legitimately being in the playoff conversation, you haven't

699
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: seen hatred like that now. I think it'll be misplay

700
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: in a lot of cases, because it won't be because

701
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: of Dion himself. Rather, it'll be because of what we

702
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 1: call the Dion Tax, which is this ridiculous hype balloon

703
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: that cannot help but follow Dion Sanders because he transcends

704
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: college football. He's bigger than college football. Folks who don't

705
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 1: watch a single game all year know who Dion Sanders is.

706
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 1: They don't know who Shane Beemer is. College football fans

707
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 1: do so because of that. Everything he does gets attention,

708
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: and a lot of it is outside attention, which is

709
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: good for your marketing department. But it's terrible for diehard

710
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: fans because you have to listen to Access Hollywood talk

711
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: about college football. It's almost as bad as watching the

712
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 1: NFL draft guys talk about college football. Here's his white

713
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: kid from Georgia's pretty good receiver. His name's lab McConkey. Yeah,

714
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: we've watched him for like half a decade. You just

715
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 1: found out about him. Huh, Well, Dion Sanders, we're watching

716
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: him every week. We've known about him since the early nineties,

717
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, folks are discovering him for

718
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,359
Speaker 1: the first time, and they're talking about college foot ball

719
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: intelligence wise on a one level, and we're hopefully up

720
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: here at the eight or nine level. That's the Dion tax.

721
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: And because of the Dion tax, you're gonna take that

722
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 1: out not on the media, but on Dion and so

723
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: diannall be hated no matter where he goes. I don't

724
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 1: think he's bothered by it. But that's coming. It's already here.

725
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 1: You saw it last year. But especially if they start winning.

726
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 1: Are you ready for a world? Are you ready for

727
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: a college football where Dion Sanders has his team in

728
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,959
Speaker 1: playoff contention rather than just the generic conversation. For many

729
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: of you, the answer is regrettably no, they're watching us

730
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: in eleven on, Tennessee, Billings, Montana, Sugarland, Texas. Thank you

731
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 1: guys so much. I have got to very quickly put

732
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 1: in my password and there I'm back. I'm just checking

733
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: out the live chat because I periodically have to go

734
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 1: over here and say hi, so that you do, in

735
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 1: fact know that we're live. And I also move my

736
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: mouth away from the mic when I do that so

737
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,240
Speaker 1: you can barely hear me. I apologize. All right, let's

738
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: move on. I have got several different directions to go here. Yeah,

739
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: let's do this. Okay, sip from the chalice, and then

740
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 1: I got a question for you about a certain team.

741
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: We kind of talked about him on the show already,

742
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 1: but we're gonna revisit it. Strong, strong, mysterious liquid in

743
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: the chalice tonight now an alcoholic but strong colin. Give

744
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:31,880
Speaker 1: me to tweet the tweet, so full disclosure. That's about Oregon.

745
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 1: By the way, a lot of you tweet us stuff

746
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: or ask me questions via Twitter, and a lot of

747
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: you send it to me like two weeks prior, and

748
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you'll see it pop up on

749
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 1: the show, and it's not because I didn't see it

750
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: until then. It's because we know that. Hey, if I'm

751
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: already talking about this one thing a lot in tonight show,

752
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: let's just save this, especially if it's evergreen, which this was.

753
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: So I got this from Duckworth up in Eugene, Oregon,

754
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: and he said, hey, can Oregon win the Big Ten

755
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: in their first year in the conference? Now? The obvious

756
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,239
Speaker 1: answer here is yes, of course they can. But I

757
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 1: know my social circle, my social circle, and some of

758
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: you are gonna come at me as soon as I

759
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: get off air, and you're gonna give me every reason

760
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:16,359
Speaker 1: why you don't think they will. And I'm gonna have

761
00:40:16,480 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: one response typed out. I'm just gonna copy and paste it,

762
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say, he asked, can they not? Will they?

763
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: This is March. No sane person is predicting conference outcomes

764
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: in March. But I will tell you, yes, they can

765
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 1: win it. So my advice if your take is no,

766
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: Oregon can't win the Big Ten, just take the O

767
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: off the helmet for a second. Just remove the green

768
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: and the yellow and all the flashy uniforms and just

769
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: look at them as a data set, look at them

770
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: as a set of numbers, look at them as a roster,

771
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: and ask yourself in the past self, what has it

772
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: taken to win the Big Ten? What will it take

773
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 1: this year to win the Big Ten? And do they

774
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: have it? You need pretty high level quarter playing, really

775
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: good decision making. They just brought in a couple of quarterbacks,

776
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: and especially Dylan Gabriel who last year thirty to six

777
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: touchdown to I int ratio, also had twelve rushing touchdowns,

778
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: about a seventy percent completion guy. Last year career is

779
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: now culminating with a final season at Oregon. They're going

780
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 1: to have the quarterback play. Will Stein's one of the

781
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: best offensive coordinators in America, very very young, so a

782
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: lot of people are still in the wait and see mode.

783
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm sold on them, So they're gonna have that. Also,

784
00:41:34,080 --> 00:41:38,000
Speaker 1: you need plus two great offensive line play. When I

785
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 1: say plus like, I don't mean plus as in addition

786
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,440
Speaker 1: to I mean plus graded to elite offensive line play.

787
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: They got both their offensive tackles back, and both of

788
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,319
Speaker 1: them will probably be All ten caliber, all Big Ten

789
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: caliber guys. They got both offensive tackles back. They're probably

790
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: good at center. I think the kid who played in

791
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: the Bowl game will be good for him. And they

792
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: have addressed interior offensive line via the portal of the

793
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: last two cycles, so I think they'll be good there.

794
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: I also think they have stacked the defensive line the

795
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 1: last two portal and especially recruiting classes with really really

796
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: good versatility and depth. Lines of scrimmage. Will be among

797
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: the best in the Big Ten. Quarterback will be among

798
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: the best in the Big Ten. They went and grabbed

799
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 1: two four star corners from the portal. They got Evan

800
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: Stewart at wide receiver from Texas A and M. How

801
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: am I supposed to look at that and say, Nope,

802
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: can't win the Big Ten. Of course they can. If

803
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 1: you don't believe that, what if I told you they

804
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: have the fourth best odds to win the national title

805
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: this year, and they're behind one Big Ten school. So

806
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: it's Georgia, It's Ohio State, It's Texas, then it's Oregon.

807
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 1: Oregon's got better national title odds than Bama, lsu Ole,

808
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 1: miss Michigan, Penn State, Notre Dame in Florida State. Yes,

809
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: they can win the Big Ten. Of course they can

810
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 1: win the Big Ten. Now, some of you doubt Dan

811
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: Landing because he hasn't won the big one, that's fine.

812
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: All you can do is keep play until you win one.

813
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: I would also remind you he's been a head coach

814
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: for about thirty minutes now, still pretty young in his

815
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: career out there, So not everyone who ended up being

816
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 1: a title winning coach won it his first or second year.

817
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: But what you do have to have is you gotta

818
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: have players. As Mima always said, I'll remind you again, Joshua.

819
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Having the ingredients in the kitchen does not guarantee a

820
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: quality meal, but not having the ingredients does guarantee starvation.

821
00:43:37,160 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: They are not gonna starve out there. They're not gonna

822
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: lose because they don't have the players. So if you

823
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 1: want to attribute that to other things, and this is

824
00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: future tense, we don't know what's gonna happen this year.

825
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: But if they don't win this year and they're not

826
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: devastated by injury, it won't be because they didn't have

827
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: the players. When Ohio State didn't win it last year,

828
00:43:54,320 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: it's not because they didn't have the players. And it's

829
00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:59,400
Speaker 1: not this full indictment on the coaching staff. Did they

830
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: get it done? No, that mean you're terrible, that mean

831
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: you're garbage, means it's hard to win. It means other

832
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: teams are allowed to try too. And when you stack

833
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: these conferences like the Big Ten is done now, you're

834
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 1: gonna have fan bases critical because they don't win two

835
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: Big Ten titles in three seasons. And it's just the

836
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,440
Speaker 1: same in the SEC. It's going to be an unrealistic

837
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: set of expectations. Now I'm moving forward. But Oregon's got

838
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: the second best odds to win a Big Ten this

839
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 1: year according to FanDuel. Yes, they can absolutely win the

840
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 1: Big Ten. All right, where did we get those odds?

841
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 1: We got them for Fandel. We got them for Fandel.

842
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,279
Speaker 1: And I've told you, I think twice now. Been having

843
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: some meetings with our fine friends over at FanDuel, and

844
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: I'm ultra excited, ultra excited to the point that I

845
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: have nervous energy. That's why I'm playing with the pen here.

846
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:50,120
Speaker 1: Ultra excited about a couple of things that we I

847
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: hope will be able to do with them this fault.

848
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: Let me give you a little hint about what I'm

849
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 1: talking about. You may be new to the show, and

850
00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: if you are, you're gonna have a great year, because

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Speaker 1: got a couple more things to get to tonight, actually

892
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:24,240
Speaker 1: three things to get to. So Colin, where did I?

893
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: I see what I did? All right? I see what

894
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: I did. You don't even have to tell me. Let's

895
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: go talk about Billy Napier for just a second. Gathering

896
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: my thoughts. Gathering my thoughts. Okay, Jackson down in Gainesville said,

897
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,279
Speaker 1: what does Billy Napier have to do to keep his job? Well,

898
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:46,040
Speaker 1: like everyone else, Jackson, he's got a win. He's got

899
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 1: to win now. As you know, I don't delve much

900
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 1: into the extremes. A lot of folks have already sold

901
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: Billy Napier and they've given up on him. I'm not there,

902
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,840
Speaker 1: but I do think everyone, including him, knows that it

903
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: is a show me year and they're going to have

904
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,760
Speaker 1: to do it with the toughest schedule in the country,

905
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:07,200
Speaker 1: so that we know, and that'll be thrown in your

906
00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 1: face a million times before they kick it off. Where

907
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 1: is he? He's eleven and fourteen through two years as

908
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:15,760
Speaker 1: Florida's head coach. He's six and ten in the SEC

909
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,760
Speaker 1: after being forty and twelve at Louisiana. So the obvious

910
00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:23,360
Speaker 1: fear in the room is what if he is skill

911
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: set just doesn't translate to this level. What if he

912
00:48:26,239 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: was good enough for the G five, he's got not

913
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: good enough for the SEC. Heard it a million times.

914
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:33,239
Speaker 1: We just heard Auburn have to go through that with

915
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: Brian Harrison. They're saying the same things about Napier right now.

916
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: He's one in five against Georgia and Tennessee and FSU. Yeah, okay,

917
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: so there's no opinion there. That's just fact. Now let's

918
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 1: get into the opinion of it. Some people have taken

919
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,839
Speaker 1: that and they've said, hey, two years in, like we'll

920
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: get a benefit of the doubt. Year one. Two years

921
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 1: in didn't look a whole lot better. Last year we're

922
00:48:57,120 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: still below five hundred. A lot of the procedure stuff

923
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: was just a mess. Special team's a mess, you know,

924
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: the hallmarks of not having things ratcheted up from a

925
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: discipline standpoint, A lot of that. That was the biggest

926
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: problem with Florida last year. So what he has to

927
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,840
Speaker 1: do this fall. I don't necessarily know if it's a

928
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: specific number of wins that he has to have. But

929
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, this year is one hundred percent

930
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: him and Napier. The other day at his press conference

931
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 1: down at Florida they're opening spring practice. He said, I

932
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:33,919
Speaker 1: will tell you that for the first time, I think

933
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,560
Speaker 1: all of our systems are built. We've had quite a

934
00:49:36,560 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 1: bit of change over the last couple of years. They have,

935
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: and now he's had more staff churn. Defensively, specifically, they

936
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:50,439
Speaker 1: overhauled some things, they changed positions. But that's an admittance there.

937
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: Even if you don't buy that it took this long,

938
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 1: Okay that notwithstanding Napier's telling you himself, this is my

939
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: team this year. It's my team. It reflect me. Vast

940
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: majority of the roster are players that he brought in. Okay,

941
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 1: he's telling you is his philosophies are in place, and

942
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,200
Speaker 1: they've even been able to make some staff changes. So

943
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: the whole point there is you're looking at a conveyor belt,

944
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,720
Speaker 1: and whatever comes out of the oven on that conveyor belt,

945
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: that's Billy Napier. There is no more excuse of I

946
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,919
Speaker 1: inherited this or I had to go through that which

947
00:50:23,960 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: is viable. Sometimes that happens, and every situation is unique,

948
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,560
Speaker 1: and I'm not here to tell you otherwise. I'm here

949
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: to tell you in year three, you don't get to

950
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:34,840
Speaker 1: say that stuff. So they're over underwent totals five and

951
00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:37,200
Speaker 1: a half this year. That's partly because their roster does

952
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: not match other schools in the SEC at the premier level,

953
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 1: but it's also because they have a nightmare schedule this year.

954
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,359
Speaker 1: So I got my own philosophy on this. I think

955
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: Napier's a really good coach. Now there's two schools of

956
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: thought here. I could just be wrong about that. I

957
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 1: could he could be it could be that his ceiling

958
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: was succeeding at the GFI level, Like that's possible. There's

959
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: another possibility, though, that I'm right that he's a good

960
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: coach and he got himself in a situation where they

961
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: got stuck in the mud. Out of the gate. Tires

962
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:14,799
Speaker 1: just spin him. It doesn't matter what that vehicle's capable of,

963
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: if it's tires or spinning, doesn't matter what's under the hood,

964
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: doesn't matter how pretty the paint job is. And in

965
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: the real world, if your tires spinning and you otherwise

966
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: got a high performance automobile that's just stuck in the ditch. Well,

967
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,760
Speaker 1: you call your buddy, you get it out of the ditch,

968
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 1: and peel rubber. You're off. That doesn't happen in college football.

969
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,439
Speaker 1: You don't have time to call your buddy. You don't

970
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:36,880
Speaker 1: have time to say, hey, I need a couple of

971
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:38,720
Speaker 1: years hold it. Just check back with me in twenty

972
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: twenty six. You're unemployed long before them. So there is

973
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,280
Speaker 1: a world where Napier is a good coach, didn't press

974
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: all the right buttons when he got there. Then the

975
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: next couple of years are spent undoing some of the

976
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: bad decisions out of the gate. Well that's it, that's it.

977
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: That's all they give you. And so sometimes guys take

978
00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: jobs and they don't make the right calls at the outset,

979
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:02,920
Speaker 1: and they're good enough to win, but they don't make

980
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 1: the right calls. They don't hire the right way, they

981
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: don't install the right way, they don't set up the

982
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: right culture, and it results entire spinning a little bit.

983
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: And there is there is not Frank Beamer amounts of

984
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: patience allah his time at Virginia Tech. They gave him

985
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: over half a decade before he ever won more than

986
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: six or seven games. Well, they're not going to give

987
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 1: billion Napi or that. So what does he have to

988
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: do this year? You know, if you told me they're

989
00:52:30,120 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 1: going six and six this year, my guess is that's

990
00:52:32,760 --> 00:52:36,399
Speaker 1: not good enough. If they go six and six and

991
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 1: every loss is by you know, one possession, I don't

992
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: know that that makes any difference, but I would know

993
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:47,399
Speaker 1: if you're competitive to within a touchdown with every game

994
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,440
Speaker 1: they got to play this year, whether you win ten

995
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: or you win six, that's not easy. That's not easy

996
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: to do. So got a long time to talk about that.

997
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: But criticism is valid. I'm not hating on Florida fans

998
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:02,400
Speaker 1: if they're critical of this. You guys invest, you guys

999
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 1: do what's asked of you. You ought to have high expectations.

1000
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: I got no problem whatsoever with that. I don't think

1001
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: Billy Napier does. I really. I think it bothers family

1002
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: and friends, maybe a lot more than it does the

1003
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 1: guy himself. And you know what, maybe we'll talk to

1004
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Billy Napier. They're not too distant future about that, So

1005
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: forget about what I say about it. Maybe we'll get

1006
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: him on the record about it all right, Let's move

1007
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 1: on now, Colin, we get back on track. Like a

1008
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: true professional. Colin does not even send up a smoke signal.

1009
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 1: It does not have to jump in the year. We

1010
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: just synergy, baby, just work it. We talked about quarterbacks

1011
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: the other night and I had one of you ask

1012
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,320
Speaker 1: are you going to do that with every position group?

1013
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: And then I went and said, hey, we got someone

1014
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: asking about running backs, let's do it. Chef hit us

1015
00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: up from college station and said, who has the best

1016
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: running back rooms in the country. Now here's what I'm doing.

1017
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: I'm doing basically a pre spring version of this. Springball

1018
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: has started but not everywhere. So I got four of them.

1019
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I've got my I'm going to give you a more

1020
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 1: definitive list probably after spring ball when I see what

1021
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: the portal did. But Ohio State's at the top of

1022
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: the list. I think Ohio State's got the best running

1023
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: back room in the country this year. Traveon Henderson, when

1024
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: he got close to healthy at the end of last year,

1025
00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 1: looked like the best back in the country. And he

1026
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 1: has that ability and even with Quinn Sewn Judkins transferring in.

1027
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: Let me be clear, a healthy Travion Henderson is the

1028
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: best they got and he ought to be the feature

1029
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: back up there. So Judkins is no joke and one

1030
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 1: of the best in the country in his own right.

1031
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: But Travion Henderson is a monster when he's healthy. Judkins

1032
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 1: last year four point three yards per carry. I think

1033
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,360
Speaker 1: Henderson Henderson got nearly one thousand yards last year and

1034
00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: didn't even play in every game, and he's about a

1035
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: six yards per carry guy. So that one two is

1036
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: why I am not exactly chewing my fingernails to the

1037
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: nubs worrying about, you know, whether Will Howard can throw

1038
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: for four thousand yards. Maybe he didn't need to for

1039
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: them to win every game. I'm gonna stay in the

1040
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:03,080
Speaker 1: Big ten for a second because Penn State's got to

1041
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: be to me on this list. Nick Singleton and k

1042
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,200
Speaker 1: Tron Allen four and a half and five point two

1043
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,800
Speaker 1: yards per carry, respectful or respectively, with about fourteen touchdowns

1044
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: last year. There's no need to estimate. They just had fourteen.

1045
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: It wasn't about fourteen. It's not like guessing temperature. But

1046
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: my point is, I still think there is another collective

1047
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 1: gear that that running back room can hit, and a

1048
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:25,879
Speaker 1: lot of it will have to do with the new

1049
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator coming in from Kansas. Got one of the

1050
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,800
Speaker 1: best in the business running that room in Jaywon Sider,

1051
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 1: So I'm a big believer in both of those guys.

1052
00:55:34,960 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 1: I think Georgia will end up being on this list,

1053
00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: And unlike these other two, Georgia doesn't have a household

1054
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: name there that the country knows. Most of you may

1055
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: not even know Trevor e tn has transferred to Georgia,

1056
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: but he was at Florida last year, which, by the way,

1057
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: just like good on Georgia forgetting him. The concept of

1058
00:55:55,840 --> 00:56:01,279
Speaker 1: transferring from one rival school to another is something that

1059
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: when I'm elected college football Commissioner, I may just ban.

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Speaker 1: I may just ban it, but it's not illegal, So

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00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: wave the red and black pom pom. I just it

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00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,399
Speaker 1: feels a little gross to me. But now that he's

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00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,760
Speaker 1: in Athens, he is going to be a monster this fall.

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00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 1: And they hadn't have a thousand yard rusher I think

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00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: since twenty nineteen. He will be one if he's healthy

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00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 1: this fall. Trevor Eten was good at Florida, can be

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00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: great at Georgia. And keep in mind the offensive line

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00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:28,879
Speaker 1: he's going to play behind. And then when we're talking

1069
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: about the room at Georgia. They also signed two four

1070
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: star backs and a high three star back this past cycle,

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00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 1: at least one of whom will probably play significant downs

1072
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 1: for them. And look, if they go through spring and

1073
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: they realize we want to build a little more depth

1074
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:45,080
Speaker 1: here freshman maybe not quite where we want him, they'll

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00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,880
Speaker 1: just go get one out of the portal. So I

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00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: think Georgia's room will be really good this fall. Alabama's

1077
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: room is going to be really good this fall. I

1078
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: think it was the Yeah, it was the Rose Bowl

1079
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:59,000
Speaker 1: against Michigan when Bama finally did what I was sitting

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00:56:59,000 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: there waiting on them to do all year. And that

1081
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: has put Justice Haynes in the game, like Justin's Haynes.

1082
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:07,280
Speaker 1: You kept hearing things about him at practice, true freshman

1083
00:57:07,719 --> 00:57:10,240
Speaker 1: and yeah you got royd l Williams there and jam

1084
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,239
Speaker 1: Miller and jam Miller had a really good year last year.

1085
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: But man in a loss, Justice Haynes is in there.

1086
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: He looked a little bit different. That was like when

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: mark Ingram first came to Alabama and they had like

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00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:26,480
Speaker 1: Glenn Coffee there and Terry Grant. It was like holdovers

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00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 1: from a previous regime. The best of the previous regime.

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00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: But then when the first of the Nick Saban recruiting

1091
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: classes started to emerge, You're like, whoa, those guys look

1092
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,640
Speaker 1: kind of different. Well, Justice Haynes steps on the field

1093
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: and just looked a little different. I think he may

1094
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: be their feature back this year, and if he's not,

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00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: it's because jam Miller has stepped up or Richard Young.

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00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: They signed a couple of four star kids this class.

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00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:52,400
Speaker 1: Richard Young was a high four star from the last class.

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00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: They got plenty of depth and talent there and a

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00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: new guy taking over that room, got a whole new

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00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: coaching staff obviously. So those are four pros that I

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00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: have my eye on. Not shocking, they're four of the

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00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 1: best talent acquirers in college football. But I wanted to

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00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 1: end the show tonight by looking at something that I

1104
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: don't talk a whole lot about, and that is the

1105
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: Heisman Trophy. Now we talk about it when someone boycotts it,

1106
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: but I haven't spoken at great length about the market

1107
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 1: for the Heisman this fault, but I saw one more

1108
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: question and I did want to get to it. Michael

1109
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,480
Speaker 1: from Fairfield, Illinois hit me and said, with all the

1110
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,000
Speaker 1: weapons around him, could Jackson Dart win the Heisman this year.

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00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: Not only could he I think he's the best spring

1112
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: value play. If I go over to FanDuel and I'm

1113
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,240
Speaker 1: looking at the odds, Jackson Dart I think is tied

1114
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: for fifth right now. And let's just put it together. Okay,

1115
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: let me walk you through why I've already made a

1116
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:56,960
Speaker 1: move on this. Financially. What is your perception of Old Miss?

1117
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: I like to do this exercise from time to time.

1118
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: Think about Old Miss last year. What was your perception

1119
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: of them? I think most people's answer to that is

1120
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 1: Lane Kiffin, high octane, throw the ball all over the place,

1121
00:59:08,800 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 1: and it wasn't remotely accurate. Last year, they ran the

1122
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: ball fifty seven percent of the time, threw the ball

1123
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: forty three percent of the time. It was a heavy

1124
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 1: run based offense, and that includes the quarterback position. But

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00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: it was a heavy run based offense. I don't think

1126
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: that'll be the case this year. They were eighty third

1127
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: in third down conversion percentage. Last year, red zone was

1128
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: not off the charts. Great Quinn Shawn Judkins transferred, he's

1129
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 1: gone and not a soul. In Oxford, Mississippi openly wept

1130
00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: for it, which was a signal. But I don't care

1131
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,000
Speaker 1: about what fans thought about it as much as I

1132
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: cared what Jackson Dart thought about it, because I was

1133
00:59:50,120 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 1: paying attention. I don't think I talked about it on

1134
00:59:52,040 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 1: the show, but I was paying attention. When Judkins threw

1135
00:59:55,800 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 1: up the deuces and headed to Columbus, Ohio, A lot

1136
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: of his teammates didn't seem too upset about it. Some

1137
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: of them seem relieved, outright celebratory. Jackson Dart was one

1138
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: of them. Do you make of that, whatever you want

1139
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: to make of it. That's an extremely talented player, one

1140
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 1: of the best in America at his position, and was

1141
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 1: a workhorse for them last year, and yet the locker

1142
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:21,200
Speaker 1: room kind of smirked grinned when he left. May come

1143
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 1: back to bite you, or it may be a sign

1144
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: that auditioned by subtraction, even subtraction that talented was thought

1145
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 1: to be the play there. My bet is that when

1146
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: you have a running back talent of that caliber, walk out,

1147
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: even if his backup is named Ulysses and will be

1148
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: good in his own right this fault, and you have

1149
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: the wide receiver stable that they have. My expectations Jackson

1150
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: Dart is going to throw the ball a lot more,

1151
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: and yards after catch will be one of the most

1152
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: important stats to follow if I'm betting on him to

1153
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 1: win the Heisman. Because they probably go pre spring seven

1154
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:57,840
Speaker 1: to eight deep in the receiver room with guys I

1155
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 1: would trust in the SEC lane. Kiffin may disagree with

1156
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 1: me on that, but you develop them the right way.

1157
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: There they got seven or eight. I think that they

1158
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: can go count onto play winning football for them, or

1159
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: will be able to say that by this fall. Now

1160
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: will they keep them all? They've been really, really good

1161
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 1: in nil, really committed to it, so I don't have

1162
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: any reason to believe they won't. And also, if they

1163
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,959
Speaker 1: start off this fall and they're winning and Jackson Dart

1164
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 1: has some Heisman hype around his name, dude, the marketing

1165
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,280
Speaker 1: apparatus is going to be in place the head coach.

1166
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: There is a marketing apparatus. It may rub some of

1167
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:35,240
Speaker 1: you the wrong way, but that doesn't tamp down what

1168
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:39,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying to be true. So Jackson Dart loses an

1169
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:44,760
Speaker 1: All American caliber running back has racehorse after racehorse at

1170
01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 1: wide receiver is deeply entrenched as third season. Now it's quarterback.

1171
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: They're in the same system. All signs to me point

1172
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: to a really big fall and if it starts rolling. Now,

1173
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: if it starts rolling, it's also going to be combined

1174
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: with ole Miss maybe making a run at the SEC

1175
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:06,320
Speaker 1: Championship game, which will be the you know, the team,

1176
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 1: high profile version of what normally is needed to be

1177
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:14,840
Speaker 1: a contender for the Heisman Trophy. So fifth best odds

1178
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:19,320
Speaker 1: right now at FanDuel to win the Heisman. I think,

1179
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: I think I think those odds will get a little shorter.

1180
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 1: I think there'll be some money coming on Jackson dar

1181
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: So I just tried to beat the rush. Thank you

1182
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 1: guys so much for watching. We'll have the Late Kick

1183
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:33,680
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1185
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,480
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1186
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:44,560
Speaker 1: only about eighty percent college football, and we delve into

1187
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Speaker 1: all sorts of other unmentionable things there. Family friendly, of course,

1188
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Speaker 1: but we have some fun. And then we'll be back

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Speaker 1: same time Thursday night, Late Kick. Clive appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: so much. At Lake Kick. Josh on all the socials

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