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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little draft talk here. Uh, some

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Speaker 1: you have um a lot of glowing reviews. I I

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Speaker 1: like the show. Okay, I wanted to start here with

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Speaker 1: with Trevor Lawrence, and we talked about last week about

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Speaker 1: his comments and the comments of football is not everything,

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Speaker 1: because in the NFL, at quarterback, it's a no balanced position.

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Speaker 1: I need a junkie. That's what Tom Brady was, That's

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Speaker 1: a ship what you're running. Run me on three or

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Speaker 1: four routes. No one's covering me right running back sometimes,

427
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,080
Speaker 1: like if you're a one cut running back. The zone

428
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,640
Speaker 1: scheme is better than some of the power gaps schemes.

429
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 1: It just is. And some guys can't do the zone scheme.

430
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:40,199
Speaker 1: They're more kind of they dance around. So having the

431
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,040
Speaker 1: right scheme with certain players is really big. I've been

432
00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: saying this for a while. I feel pretty confident on

433
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,119
Speaker 1: this one. I don't think DeVante Smith will be the

434
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Speaker 1: first wide receiver from his own team drafted. I think

435
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith. They're gonna be three skill guys taking ahead

436
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Speaker 1: of Davante Smith, and one's gonna be a teammate, Kyle Pitts,

437
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: Jamaar Chase, and Jalen Waddle. Like people get mad when

438
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,959
Speaker 1: I say this. DeVante Smith, the league views him as

439
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: a four or five old guy, which again, he plays fast,

440
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 1: but he weighs a hundred and seventy pounds. Now, He's

441
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 1: still gonna get drafted high because he's a great football player,

442
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: and you can't make too much of how fast a

443
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: guy is on combine or whatever. Even though he never

444
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,840
Speaker 1: ran how much he weighs because he's had that playing

445
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: weight his whole career and he's dominated. But it is concerning,

446
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 1: like it's not nothing. It is a red flag. Now,

447
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 1: not all red flags are created equal, right, Alden Smith

448
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: just got got arrested or got a worn out first arrest.

449
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 1: He's a walking red flag as a human being. Certain

450
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: people are just kind of red flags as players. Right,

451
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: Mac Jones is the athletic enough, Like that's a red flag.

452
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,240
Speaker 1: DeVante Smith weighs a hundred seventy pounds, it's a red flag. Now,

453
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:56,439
Speaker 1: he's an incredible human, he's a great player. It's just

454
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Speaker 1: one of those things like if DeVante Smith weighed a

455
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Speaker 1: hundred eighty eight pounds, he'd be a lock top ten pick.

456
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Speaker 1: But if he does not go in the top twelve picks,

457
00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna because of his weight and his speed. Like

458
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Speaker 1: last year Henry Ruggs went to the combine ran a

459
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Speaker 1: four to eight. Henry Ruggs is an elite athlete. I think,

460
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Speaker 1: like Russell Westbrook, right think, I think like the best

461
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Speaker 1: athletes in the world, that's Henry Ruggs. That's not necessarily

462
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: Dvante Smith, and so to me if I'm in a

463
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Speaker 1: draft a guy that's a hundred and seventy pounds, hundred

464
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Speaker 1: seventy pounds, who's not like the twitchiest at athlete in

465
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Speaker 1: the game. Like part of why DeShawn Jackson was so great.

466
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Speaker 1: He was one of the most explosive athletes in the

467
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Speaker 1: history of the league. And Deshaun Wade about a hundred

468
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:43,120
Speaker 1: sixty eight hundred seventy pounds, but he's the fastest motherfucker.

469
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Speaker 1: Every time he put on his cleats, he was his explosion.

470
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Speaker 1: His twitchiness were stupid. That's not this guy. That's Henry

471
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Speaker 1: Ruggs is really more. Jalen Waddle is much twitchier than

472
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Speaker 1: DeVante and I think sometimes fans struggle with like, but

473
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Speaker 1: he won the Heisman. He caught all these balls. The

474
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Speaker 1: NFL doesn't care. I think Daniel Jeremiah do is a

475
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 1: pretty good job. Sometimes he tweets out these nuggets like guys,

476
00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: no one cares about college awards, and really college production

477
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:14,040
Speaker 1: can be very hit or miss. Remember one thing Lewis

478
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,760
Speaker 1: Riddick taught me. I remember, it's like, you gotta be

479
00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 1: very careful with just sacks with college players, Like he

480
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: had nine sacks and then you go, look, well, five

481
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Speaker 1: of them came against a Division one double A team

482
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Speaker 1: and another team with the worst right tackle you've ever seen. Like, really,

483
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: he has four sacks that would translate right, So you

484
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,560
Speaker 1: gotta be careful with that. Remember Khalil Mack. His first

485
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: game is senior year against Ohio State. It was like, oh,

486
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Speaker 1: he had three sacks against Taylor Decker, who was a

487
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Speaker 1: first round pick. It's like, damn, this guy is probably

488
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. Khalil macturing not to be pretty good.

489
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Speaker 1: The Rams they have this draft house. They basically sponsored

490
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Speaker 1: a house. If you haven't seen it, google Rams Rocket

491
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Speaker 1: Mortgage House on Malibu. They're doing their draft from this

492
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Speaker 1: mansion on the water. It's just incredible. I don't even

493
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,400
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to say. You can't even

494
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: make this ship up, Like, who even thinks of these ideas?

495
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: I'll tell you super rich people like crown Key, Kevin

496
00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:15,120
Speaker 1: dam Off, Rocket Mortgage kind of genius. Honestly, it's pretty cool.

497
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 1: It's it's pretty awesome. Obama. The other thing, this is

498
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Speaker 1: not necessarily on the draft, but Alabama. I watched some

499
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Speaker 1: highlights from their spring game. It's incredible how much offensive

500
00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 1: talent started coming through there. If I was a college

501
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: or I was gonna be an elite wide receiver or

502
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: a quarterback, without hesitation, I would choose Nick Saban over

503
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,240
Speaker 1: everybody his coaching now. Of the quarterbacks, he's gonna have

504
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: back to back guys. Even if even if Mac Jones

505
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Speaker 1: ends up going eighteen for Matt Jones to end up

506
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Speaker 1: in the first round of the NFL draft, if I

507
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,720
Speaker 1: would have told you that six months ago, you thought

508
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:52,880
Speaker 1: I was high obviously two and went five. All these

509
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Speaker 1: wide receivers, na, she's gonna get draft in the first round.

510
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:57,760
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry is one of the best players in the NFL.

511
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: If you're a college skill guy, it was forever it's

512
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 1: like defensive players and offensive lineman. They went to Alabama.

513
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 1: Now it's like wide receivers and quarterbacks on top of

514
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,120
Speaker 1: all those other guys. There is no other place you'd

515
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:17,119
Speaker 1: want to go. It is one, undisputable, not arguable, the

516
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 1: number one football factory in the country for every position,

517
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: Like there's nothing they can't do. You want offensive lineman,

518
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: they've been doing it for a decade. You want defensive players,

519
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: they've been doing it for a decade. You want sweet

520
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: wide receivers. Well, they used to get one every two years,

521
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 1: right or three years, Julio than a Maori. Now they've

522
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: just stacked the deck. They're gonna have four guys going

523
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,879
Speaker 1: the top fifth team in two years. They had a

524
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 1: guy Mechi who's gonna be awesome. They had another true

525
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: freshman that I watched in their spring game that had

526
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Speaker 1: incredible catches. Just the amount of offensive talent, because it

527
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: used to be like, you know, l s U has

528
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320
Speaker 1: more skill guys, Bama just a better team. That ain't

529
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Speaker 1: the case anymore. Say with Georgia is like you know,

530
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: the the A J. Greens they get the running backs.

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Speaker 1: Now the girl release. Now they're Bama. Bama's got that

532
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 1: market corner and it's all Saban. If you're an Alabama

533
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: fan listening to this, and it's not like I'm telling

534
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 1: you anything, you don't know you because now he's getting

535
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: up there in age now he still loves it. And

536
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: I watched him kind of go off on a reporter

537
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,879
Speaker 1: like clearly football, he's talking about a junkie. That's Saban.

538
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 1: He is, you know, late sixties. Like this probably isn't

539
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 1: gonna last I'd say five years, Max, it could probably

540
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 1: end any given year. Moving forward, I'd really enjoy these

541
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 1: next couple of years because you might win a couple

542
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: more championships. Now, the crazy part is like he doesn't

543
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: get bored winning championships, partly because it never gets boring

544
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: winning in any walk of life. Um So, yeah, there's

545
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: a couple of draft scuttlebuts I just wanted to give

546
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: this guy a little love because he officially retired today

547
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 1: and I I really think he's gonna go down as

548
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 1: having one of the most unique careers in NFL history.

549
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 1: He goes from the guy that the Niners shows instead

550
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,959
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers and being a complete eat draft bust

551
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 1: to resurrecting his career and taking the San Fransco forty

552
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: Niners to the NFC Championship Game against Eli Manning and

553
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: the Giants, who they ended up losing that game because

554
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: Kyle Williams muffed a punt to getting Wally piped the

555
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 1: following year by Kaepernick, who led that team to a

556
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: Super Bowl, who then goes to play for Andy Reid

557
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 1: and helps resurrect the Chiefs with Andy and make them

558
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:30,360
Speaker 1: just a high level playoff winning franchise too. Then kind

559
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: of getting Wally Pips the wrong word, but replaced by

560
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, the greatest young quarterback we've ever seen

561
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: to go to Washington, who was one of the most

562
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: dysfunctional franchises ever, and before his leg got snapped, they

563
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 1: were six and two with Alex Smith. I just don't

564
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: think you see that many Alex Smith's. You know, a

565
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: guy who really every adjective that you'd want to describe

566
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Speaker 1: yourself is everything that anyone that's ever been around would

567
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: use to describe him, right, I mean toughness is Honestly,

568
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: that sounds like a complete understatement. If you ever watched

569
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Speaker 1: the sixty on him. He had to get a the

570
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: you know, congressional whatever, the White House, the Secretary of

571
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: Defense to sign off on his ability to go to

572
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Speaker 1: a place in Texas where wounded warriors go to rehab.

573
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: That's how bad his leg injury was. And a guy

574
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Speaker 1: with nothing to prove, money is no obstacle. The thing

575
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Speaker 1: I personally respect the most about any human being in

576
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,479
Speaker 1: any walk of life is when you don't do it

577
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 1: for the money and you're already super rich, Like when

578
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Tiger Woods won the Master in two thousand nineteen after

579
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Speaker 1: he went through back fusions. And if you ever read

580
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 1: the right Thompson article on Tiger when he was in

581
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: his lowest point in like the two thousand fourteen, two

582
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,479
Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, two thousand and sixteen, he'd hit the ground

583
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 1: and and have to cry or yell for his daughter

584
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: to call for help because he couldn't get up because

585
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: his back would just lock. And that is like, I mean,

586
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: that's just an injury, right, But then to have your

587
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 1: leg for them to think about amputating it like Alex

588
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: And if you watch the special, if it wasn't for

589
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,959
Speaker 1: his wife, he almost said, yeah, cut it off. It

590
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: was that bad so toughness. The word grit, which Angela

591
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 1: duck Orr said is the most defining attribute of any

592
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: successful person. It all again, it feels like not enough,

593
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: like not a strong enough word to describe this human

594
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Speaker 1: being inspirational. You watch that documentary, but to me, if

595
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: you just followed his career with at one point in

596
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: time when he played for the forty Niners, Candlestick chanted

597
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: David Carr on a Sunday night football game to replace

598
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 1: Alex to go from a guy that leads the forty

599
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: Niners to an NFC Championship game, I guess he didn't

600
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,479
Speaker 1: lead him, but I mean he was the quarterback of

601
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: the team having one of the best coaches of the

602
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: last twenty thirty years, Andy Reid, and I know because

603
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: when I was in Philadelphia, we tried to sign him

604
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: as a backup quarterback. Then Andy end up trading him

605
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: for him. In Kansas City, they went from having the

606
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: number one pick in the draft with Eric Fisher to

607
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: the next year, I think they won eleven or twelve

608
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: games and they were in the playoffs the very next year.

609
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,120
Speaker 1: And then he had that you know, four or five

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00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: years stretch in Kansas City where it was just like

611
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 1: good football player. He was just a very, very good

612
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Speaker 1: football player. And listen, he'll always be known as the

613
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: guy that was taken instead of Aaron Rodgers, and Aaron's

614
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 1: gonna go down as one of the great quarterbacks in

615
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 1: the history of the league. But to me, the coolest

616
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 1: part about his conversation, definitely before the major injury, is

617
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: that he not only resurrected his career, but he gave

618
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: it a lot of like credibility, like, no, I'm a

619
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: legitimate top like twelve quarterback in this league. Am I

620
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? Of course, not. Am I better than the

621
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: majority of the quarterbacks that you guys root for? Hell yeah,

622
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 1: did I consistently beat those guys? I did? And to me,

623
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Speaker 1: he's a great example of someone he had to have

624
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: the toughness, he had to have the grit and anyone.

625
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: I mean just knowing a lot of the guys Naggy

626
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: and Andy that worked within in Kansas City, how intelligent

627
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 1: the guy was. Because I think the best part about

628
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: the NFL is it parallels life like this. Where you

629
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 1: start is completely irrelevant. It is completely You can be

630
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 1: the number one overall draft pick and be washed out.

631
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Speaker 1: I mean I've seen it multiple times, Like in my

632
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: own backyard. Solomon Thomas was the number three pick in

633
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: the draft. Now he's on the Raiders and he's just

634
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: not any good. Alex Smith was the number one pick

635
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: in the draft. He was a bust. The dust settles.

636
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: He was gonna go down a hundred ninety million dollars

637
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Speaker 1: several playoff victories. That's how that happened because he was

638
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: just relentless. He never tapped out and clearly he one

639
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 1: thing I think a lot of players probably in all sports,

640
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 1: struggle with is truly understanding your weaknesses, because a lot

641
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: of times when you acknowledge your weakness, it's a very

642
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: vulnerable thing to do, Like, you know, my arm is

643
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: actually not good enough to make that throw. People don't

644
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: like acknowledging their weaknesses. You know, actually, I'm probably not

645
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 1: the best looking guy in this bar. I probably shouldn't

646
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 1: be wearing this skin tight button up shirt, right. Know

647
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: who you are the quicker in life. I believe you

648
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,720
Speaker 1: know who you are, and you play to your strengths.

649
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,040
Speaker 1: The more successful you can be, whether you're a businessman,

650
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: a salesman, a teacher, a quarterback, whatever you are. The

651
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 1: quicker you figure that out, the more the sky is

652
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: the limit because you can just embrace what you're actually

653
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: good at and master that. And what did Alex master?

654
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: He never had this hose. He was not going to

655
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,439
Speaker 1: be able to throw deep go routes. What he could

656
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: do is be extremely accurate and understand the defense that

657
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: you were gonna run because the prep work he put

658
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 1: in and master his own offense, whether that was with

659
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: Hardbar or whether that was with Andy or even the

660
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: eight games he played for Jake Gruden. His intellect plus

661
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: his toughness were elite. His arm strength and it's just

662
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 1: his arm was average at best relative to the great quarterbacks,

663
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,760
Speaker 1: right relative to the guy he got. Compared to Aaron.

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Speaker 1: Aaron's arm is a ten out of ten. Alex's is

665
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: probably like a six. But Alex made himself really like

666
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,600
Speaker 1: he was never gonna be a ten out of ten

667
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: like a Rogers or Mahomes. But he made himself into

668
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: like an eight as a quarterback, a guy that you

669
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Speaker 1: could win ten, eleven, twelve games with and give you

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00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 1: a chance to win playoff games. That's more than of

671
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,919
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks in the NFL can say. And he did

672
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: that because he figured out what his strengths were. I

673
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: think of the people that believed in him in his career,

674
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: Urban Meyer, Jim Harbaugh, Andy Reid, like, that's not just

675
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: like a bunch of nobody's there. It's got to say something.

676
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: And again back to the to the documentary on his

677
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: leg Whether you like sports, obviously, if you're listening to this,

678
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: you do, but you didn't need to to watch that

679
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: and come away and go that that's one of the

680
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: most powerful things I've ever watched in my life. I

681
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 1: don't know if I could watch a documentary on a

682
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,840
Speaker 1: human being and respect them anymore when the thing ended

683
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:40,640
Speaker 1: as you did by watching that about Alex and just

684
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: the the grit, the toughness, the just the mental toughness

685
00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 1: and obviously physically he's tough, but to mentally not snap

686
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: and then to come back. Now, I never felt comfortable

687
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: with his comeback. I felt really uncomfortable the first game

688
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: came in when they were playing the Rams this year

689
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: and Aaron Donald jumped on his back. I mean, I

690
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: felt like my heart kind of dropped because I'm just

691
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: an Alex fan as a human being, let alone as

692
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: a player. But I don't know if we'll ever see

693
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Speaker 1: anything quite like that again, and hopefully not. I mean,

694
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 1: you wouldn't wish Alex. I'm sure wouldn't wish that injury

695
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: on any human being. But it's just that they should

696
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 1: rename the most Improved Player or the Comeback Player of

697
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: the Year award that that should be. That's a BP

698
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: fastball for Roger. I'd have that thing changed by draft night.

699
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: The Alex Smith Award. That that to me is easy

700
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: because you you will never see a comeback situation quite

701
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: like what Alex Smith did this year. Okay, let's dive

702
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: into the Middlecoff mail back at John Middlecoff is my

703
00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: Instagram handle. Slide up into those d ms. You get

704
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,240
Speaker 1: your question answered here on the podcast, you say slide

705
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: into your d m s. So here's my question from Kyle.

706
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 1: I've been bombarded with every detail on these five quarterbacks.

707
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 1: They could be drafted in the first round for weeks

708
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: with no dog in the race. As a Browns fan,

709
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,280
Speaker 1: but all the talk between hearing you and Colin Daley

710
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: has me thinking, is it possible that the Niners are

711
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: actually want Zack Wilson and are trying to beef up

712
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: the image of Mac Jones so they could fool a

713
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: more a more gullible franchise like the Jets into switching

714
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 1: and taking a worse player. I know the Jags and

715
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: Urban are too smart to fall for this. Let's pump

716
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: the brakes on Urban. I hear you, but are the Jets?

717
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 1: From all the talk, I think it's the only way

718
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: the Mac Jones hype machine makes sense. Thanks in advance,

719
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Speaker 1: I I would red flag. I like where you're going.

720
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: I like where you're thinking. We always got a question

721
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of weird ship going on just

722
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: in general with the Mac Jones hype here would be

723
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,239
Speaker 1: the problem. Robert Sala has known Kyle Shanahan for a

724
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: decade and work with him for the last four years.

725
00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: They're very good friends. La Fleur always get Matt Floor

726
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: or Mike Laflour whatever. La Flour is not the head

727
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: coach of the Packers. His brother is the offensive coordinator

728
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: with Robert Sala the head coach with the Packers. La Fleur,

729
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,560
Speaker 1: the other La Floor was Robert Sala's best man at

730
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: his wedding. That guy is really tight with Kyle. La

731
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: Fleur that the OC with the Jets has been on

732
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: Kyle's staff for like the last seven eight years. They

733
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 1: know each other too well, so there is no fooling

734
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: Like the Laflour with the Jets knows what Kyle is doing. Also,

735
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,399
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels and La Fleur have been like this. Now

736
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: Mike McDaniels is the only guy left with Kyle. I

737
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: just think there's too much institutional knowledge with the two

738
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 1: franchises now. And Joe Douglas makes the picks. Joe Douglas

739
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: came from the Eagles, where you want a super Bowl,

740
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: came from the Ravens, where you want a super Bowl,

741
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:55,160
Speaker 1: Like Joe Douglas. I don't think it's the village idiot here,

742
00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 1: so I hear what you're saying, and I do think

743
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:03,240
Speaker 1: there's something there with the Mac hype from the Niners,

744
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 1: though I don't know if it's in relation to mess

745
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 1: with the Jets. That would be my take. When an

746
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: agent helps a player sign a contract in the NFL,

747
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: the bloated numbers always come out and confuse people. Does

748
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,760
Speaker 1: an agent get paid their percentage from the guaranteed money

749
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: or from the total as in, if a player earned

750
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Speaker 1: all his incentives, would the agent then make more. I'm

751
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: pretty sure the answer is yes the way I understand it,

752
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: and I dealt with NFL agents representing me when I

753
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 1: worked in uh Tannenbaum and some of his guys, they

754
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: have priority. First, they run an NFL, they represent players,

755
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: they also do coaches and broadcast people. Now, Uh, Honestly,

756
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: for me, I like Mike, it was kind of a

757
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,239
Speaker 1: waste of money, like I could have just negotiated the

758
00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: deal on my own. Ever since then, I've done that. Uh,

759
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: But I think it's pretty necessary for a lot of

760
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,000
Speaker 1: players and a lot of media don't know what they're

761
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: doing in business, not saying I did five or six

762
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: years ago, learned throughout the process. And the thing with media,

763
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: a lot of these media members, you know, making a

764
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: couple hundred thousan dollars, they're paying ten percent. As a player,

765
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: you pay like two or three percent, depending on what

766
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 1: you negotiate. I'm pretty sure a player is paid based

767
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: on what they get. So regardless of what the funny

768
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: numbers say, if I receive fifty million dollars over three years,

769
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 1: I pay the agent based on that money. And if

770
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,319
Speaker 1: I'm cut the next year and don't see the other

771
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: thirty million dollars of my eighty million dollar contract, obviously

772
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: I don't owe it. But you pay on what you earn,

773
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 1: and obviously in the NFL it changes right, bonuses, guaranteed money.

774
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: It's kind of it's just up in the air. Personally

775
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: for me, the the agent, and I like those guys,

776
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: like they were cool. I I didn't mind dealing with them,

777
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 1: but it just in some of these media members have agents,

778
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: and I get it, Like listen, I'm not a normal

779
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to work at ESPN or Fox, so

780
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:11,399
Speaker 1: I guess it doesn't matter. But I think a lot

781
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,240
Speaker 1: of people in the media get taken to the cleaners.

782
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: Maybe it makes sense for like the Collins, the Daniel

783
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: Jeremiahs that are making huge cash, but a lot of

784
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Speaker 1: guys at the lower end, I mean ten percent. Imagine

785
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 1: imagine signing a hundred thousand dollar contract and paying someone

786
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: ten percent net. That's net. So you know, you make

787
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars, you get really what seventy you

788
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 1: gotta pay ten out of the seventy. That's the thing.

789
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: Agents get net cash, right, you get taxed even as

790
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,760
Speaker 1: a player on you know, you get fifty million dollars.

791
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,880
Speaker 1: Let's say two years, fifty million dollars. Five. Well, you

792
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 1: don't receive fifty million dollars, but you owe your agent

793
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: two of the fifty million dollars. Whatever the percentages of

794
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 1: the net money. That's that's a good deal, right, it's

795
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,319
Speaker 1: a good deal. It's a great part about in you know,

796
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 1: starting your business getting revenue, like you control the actual cast,

797
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: the gross and the net all yours. I see where

798
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 1: all you small businessmen out there, it's a good life

799
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 1: once you get the revenue. Sources flown in love the

800
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,680
Speaker 1: pod kind of case and point to the argument about

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00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: taking an old line first round and having a wide

802
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: receiver talent. Later, I thought it was an interesting post

803
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: by the Steelers, so this guy sent me a post.

804
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: These Steeler draft picks worked out well. They took uh

805
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 1: alec Alan Fanica and then they drafted Hines Ward later. Yeah,

806
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean I would just go offensive line first. It's

807
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: just it just makes sense. It really does. Now. Ideally

808
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: you just want to get good players, but you know,

809
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,840
Speaker 1: it's hard to get great offensive linemen later in the draft.

810
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 1: If you can draft a guy David Castro has been

811
00:43:56,239 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: good for them, you can draft staple players in get

812
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,719
Speaker 1: kind of you know, skill guys. Definitely in the second

813
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Speaker 1: and third round. I think the Steelers have had a

814
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 1: ton of success on that right Juju. The little kid

815
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Speaker 1: Deonte Thompson they can fly, isn't a third rounder. They

816
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: took James Washington, who kind of came on the last

817
00:44:14,360 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: last year. Uh in the second round I think from

818
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: Oklahoma State Steelers. I mean they are fantastic because they

819
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: just nail all these second and third round picks. My

820
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 1: question for the mail bag is do you think the

821
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: Patriots should trade up for a quarterback this year? I'm

822
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,640
Speaker 1: a Patriots fan and I want them to trade up

823
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: for a quarterbacks because they don't. I don't think they

824
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:37,400
Speaker 1: will ever pick as high as fifteen. I think if

825
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 1: they want to get an elite quarterback prospect on a

826
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Speaker 1: rookie deal, this is their chance to do it. Obviously,

827
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: they would have to like the quarterbacks left on the

828
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Speaker 1: board when they pick. Well. To me, it would be this.

829
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Speaker 1: It would be they trade with Atlanta for the fourth

830
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: pick in Atlanta would have to be cool with going

831
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Speaker 1: forward to fifteen. Now, if you're Atlanta new coach, new GM,

832
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Speaker 1: you go to fifteen, what does it costs you get

833
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 1: fifteen to four? What cost Kyle she In a hand

834
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Speaker 1: to go from twelve to three? Twelve to other first

835
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: rounders and third rounder? Could you get bills? Could the

836
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 1: deal be give us fifteen, give us next year's first rounder,

837
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: and give us another second rounder, so you basically get

838
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: a first and a second rounder on top of you know,

839
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: moving back, however, many nine spots? I guess it's eleven spots.

840
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:26,919
Speaker 1: But you know, if if you love justin fields, let's

841
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: say the Niners take Trey Lance, do you do that?

842
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: Or do you love Trey Lance and the Niners take

843
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: Justin fields? If they take Mac Jones. Both those guys

844
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,360
Speaker 1: are on the board. That's what's cool part about this draft.

845
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: I live in the Bay Area. I know multiple people

846
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:42,439
Speaker 1: in the Niners front office. I got no fucking clue

847
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: who they're taking none, I mean none. So it's just

848
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: and I'm texting round the league. I don't think a

849
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: lot of people have a great field. They are educated guesses,

850
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 1: but I don't think people know for certain. And the

851
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: Niners the last several year. As I heard, I was

852
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:06,320
Speaker 1: in the car this morning driving from Santa Cruz and

853
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: I heard Coward going on kind of a rant that

854
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 1: me and guy talk about him my other podcast A

855
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:15,759
Speaker 1: lot like the Niners do not leak. With Kyle and

856
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: John Lynch, that has not been their style. That that

857
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 1: has been a hallmark staple of the Shanahan Lynch era

858
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: has been very Belichickian. Now he's not like Belichick. When

859
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: they do get in front of the mike, they're unlike Bill.

860
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: They're very candid and open. But they do not play

861
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: games with the media. They realized something that a lot

862
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: of teams don't realize. The media is not that important,

863
00:46:43,160 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: like just win games, do good ship, and like the

864
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 1: media is kind of irrelevant. They can write whatever they want.

865
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: And Kyle maybe it's growing up around Mike Shanahan and

866
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: Mike used the media. Mike was famous for using the media.

867
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: Kyle's not big on that. John Lynch, I don't think

868
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: it cares right. They're not They're not really insecure. They're

869
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 1: both rich. Like a lot of people that use the media,

870
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 1: I think either too. They play the game a little bit,

871
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,880
Speaker 1: which is natural. There's nothing wrong with it. Some some

872
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: coaches just like dealing with media people. Hell, I know

873
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,319
Speaker 1: a lot of media people. I interact with them all

874
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: day every day. Right, there's small handful that I that

875
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: I like a lot of them. I despise, but you

876
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: know I I do get it. But the Niners just

877
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: don't play I I just don't think Kyle Shanahan gives

878
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,439
Speaker 1: a ship. What's written, what's definitely what's tweeted. Like one

879
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: thing I have realized since uh deleting Twitter off my phone,

880
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,600
Speaker 1: it is irrelevant. Like you go out in society. I

881
00:47:39,640 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: went to work out and you just have conversations. I

882
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: see a guy, this big Niner fan, and comes up.

883
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 1: We start bullshitting. No one has any clue. If you

884
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: just don't look at it. It's like this own little

885
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,160
Speaker 1: world that's just a fake little world. And I think

886
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,439
Speaker 1: social media, if you're on it, it's like, oh my god,

887
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,280
Speaker 1: all this ship is happening. Well, the majority of humans

888
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: are not on Twitter. It. Twitter actually, of all the

889
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: social media apps, is by far the least powerful. It

890
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: has the least amount of users, and then the amount

891
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: of users that actually use it, like people that actually tweet,

892
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,359
Speaker 1: it's tiny. Eighty plus percent of adults are not on it.

893
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: But the media they live on it and they just

894
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: tweet and they think it's a big deal. If I

895
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: was a coach and it's hard, they wouldn't know, they

896
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: would never look at it. Like, from my perspective, I

897
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 1: would tell you that there is not a more irrelevant

898
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: arena of conversation in American history than Twitter. So I

899
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:37,320
Speaker 1: wouldn't pay much attention to anything we're reading. Is it

900
00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 1: premature to say the Giants are the best team coming

901
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,479
Speaker 1: out of the NFC East after free agency? I feel

902
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: like we're the most complete team going this season. From Dave,

903
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:49,959
Speaker 1: my question would be, as Daniel Jones, any good because

904
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you that their defense is gonna be solid.

905
00:48:52,680 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 1: They add some offensive weapons they have a couple of

906
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: good draft picks, but what if Daniel Jones just averaged below,

907
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: You're sucked. I think the Washington football team, if Fitzpatrick

908
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 1: can just build off last year season and just kind

909
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:10,360
Speaker 1: of match it, I'd probably take them. Now. If you

910
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: tell me Daniel Jones has a huge step and it's like,

911
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 1: you know, top fifteen, you know, between like fifteen fourteen

912
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: quarterback in the NFL, I'd be like, yeah, you guys

913
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,440
Speaker 1: should make the playoffs. If you tell me Daniel Jones

914
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: is like the twenty six best starting quarterback in the NFL,

915
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: I'd say you're in trouble because your offensive line isn't

916
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 1: good enough even if Sae Kwan comes back fully healthy

917
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: for you just to dominate on the ground. And if

918
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 1: your quarterback is not any good we saw it last year,

919
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: Like he turns the ball over too much, He fumbles

920
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 1: it a lot, He throws a lot of picks. You know,

921
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: he's talented, he's athletic. Actually think he's got a pretty

922
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 1: good arm. At times, he's accurate. At times he makes

923
00:49:47,080 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: great throws, and then there's other times like is that

924
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: the worst throw I've ever seen? To me, he's just

925
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 1: it's hard to say you're in the division. Kind of sucks.

926
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:58,520
Speaker 1: Let's be real, but I have a hard time with

927
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones. Now, maybe Daniel Jones has a big year.

928
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: When are we going to address the elephant in the room.

929
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: Tom Brady is a known cheater. I'm gonna push back

930
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: on that. From deflated balls to spying on other teams.

931
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: The stuff about avocado ice cream is crap. I'm not

932
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 1: saying he doesn't work harder than anyone else, but seriously,

933
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,160
Speaker 1: the reason he is good at forty two is that

934
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: he is cheating, taking drugs to drugs to help him

935
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 1: stay young, just like Lance Armstrong, who was the hardest

936
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: working cyclist in the world, but good drugs to give

937
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: him an extra edge. Well, here's where my pushback would be.

938
00:50:29,880 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: Lance Armstrong never wont to Tour de France without steroids.

939
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: Then he gets testicular cancer and he was a great athlete.

940
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: But he gets too and he was a good cyclist,

941
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: but then he became a champion on the drugs. Tom

942
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 1: Brady kicked the ship out of everyone in the two thousand's.

943
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,640
Speaker 1: In two thousand seven, when he was drinking beer and

944
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: eating onion rings, he didn't start the TV twelve method

945
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 1: until like five, six, seven years ago. Now you can

946
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 1: say it, maybe it's bs. What would he's not muscle bound,

947
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: he's gotten slimmer. What what would be his like big

948
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 1: advantage deflated balls? We saw him, they put took the

949
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: deflated balls at halftime. He beat the ship out of

950
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: the Colts in the second half. I actually think the

951
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: thing that aged the worst in the deflate gate was

952
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: the Colts and Ryan Grigson turning in the Patriots. I

953
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: think the Patriots his age really well. That Tom Brady,

954
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: who just won another Super Bowl deflated footballs is irrelevant.

955
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: I think that was a low point for the Indianapolis

956
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,440
Speaker 1: Colts franchise when they turned in the Patriots for something

957
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 1: that was proven kind of unsubstantiated. Now the two guys

958
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: that got fired, Yeah, maybe Brady liked his balls a

959
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:48,600
Speaker 1: little softer. Who cares. I've seen him with normal balls.

960
00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: He dominates. He just won Super Bowl. He didn't film anyone.

961
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: That was a Belichick thing. And I got news for you.

962
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: When I got to the NFL, like the whole league

963
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: was filming. It was normal protocol to film. Everyone's been filming.

964
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: That was like stealing signs in baseball, everyone did it. Uh,

965
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 1: I just don't know what his like. If he took

966
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: H G H like does that you don't think other

967
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,200
Speaker 1: people taking steroids in football? But I just don't like

968
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: look at Brady and think steroids are the reason he's

969
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: kicking everyone's ass, assuming you're even right. Even though I

970
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 1: do believe that he is eating avocado ice cream, look

971
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: at him, he's way slimmer. The other thing is, you

972
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: can't hit anyone in the NFL like his arm is

973
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,919
Speaker 1: still looks like it did ten years ago. He can't

974
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: run away, Like, what are his physical advantages? His main advantage?

975
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: He's smarter than the opponent. He's smarter than the opponent,

976
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: Just period, point blank, end of story, for what for

977
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: what it's worth. One fact that I have not heard

978
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,840
Speaker 1: discussed with the Sean is Dabbo saying staying radio silent.

979
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,839
Speaker 1: Dabbo went out of his way to praise to Shawan

980
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:05,320
Speaker 1: pre and post draft. If he's not said one peep

981
00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 1: in defense of de Shawn, it's not a good sign. Uh.

982
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: I don't know what's Dabbo supposed to say. Like, I

983
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 1: don't fault Dabbo for saying those things called the Michael

984
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: Jordan's I think his experience with Shaun Watson was a plus. Right,

985
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,240
Speaker 1: he won a national championship with him. He was around

986
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: him every day. He loved the guy. But like I'm sorry,

987
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 1: when you leave college, it's it's not Dabbo, like you

988
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 1: can't hold your hand anymore. So I don't know, really

989
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: what's hes supposed to say. You know, I would imagine

990
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 1: he is rooting for this not to be true, but

991
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: he doesn't know. I think it's a tough spot for Dabbo.

992
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if you can. I don't think Dabbo

993
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:52,959
Speaker 1: knows anything more than me or you knows. Now, maybe

994
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: he's talked to the Sewan, but I think he's in

995
00:53:55,719 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: a tough spot. Fellow bald guy here big and of

996
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: the podcast. This may be a dumb question, but if

997
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,920
Speaker 1: a coach is fired with time left on his contract,

998
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:10,360
Speaker 1: are they still owed the money remaining? Take Gruden for example,

999
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: if he were to be fired at the end of

1000
00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:16,959
Speaker 1: this year, is he still owed sixty million uh? In theory, yes,

1001
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,839
Speaker 1: but I think every coach's contract is probably a little

1002
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 1: bit different. I think the going rate is most coaches

1003
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: contracts are fully guaranteed. Now, there might be bonuses with

1004
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: people get paid to do media stuff and you know,

1005
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: radio hits or whatever, but I think the base of

1006
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 1: your contract is guaranteed. Now, obviously there are languages. With

1007
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,279
Speaker 1: a contract of ten years, it might be different than

1008
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: a guy of five years, but yes, typically the way

1009
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: it works. If we just take Gruden for example, if

1010
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 1: he's fired at the end of this year and he

1011
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: has sixty million dollars remaining on the contract, he will

1012
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 1: be paid sixty million dollars over the next six years. Now,

1013
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: maybe they could do some sort of buy out. I

1014
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:59,160
Speaker 1: don't know, you could. Obviously in life you can negotiate whatever.

1015
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: If he were to take another job, which no one

1016
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:04,120
Speaker 1: else would hire him to be the head coach. But

1017
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: let's just use in theory he takes another job that

1018
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:10,640
Speaker 1: if that team offers him thirty million dollars, the Raiders

1019
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:13,719
Speaker 1: would only owe him sixty or thirty million dollars. Right,

1020
00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: you just kind of split the baby. But it's just

1021
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: I think the going uh the way. The conventional wisdom

1022
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:28,240
Speaker 1: is that even the right term I guess the history

1023
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:31,880
Speaker 1: of these contracts would say, yes, he's owed all the money.

1024
00:55:32,480 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 1: But unless you have the contract. It's hard to know.

1025
00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: Do you think Gruden will even be fired from another

1026
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: Gruden question? Do you think Gruden will be fired from

1027
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,839
Speaker 1: the Raiders? Another seven years seems like a long time

1028
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: to be Losing Gruen has been a disaster they I

1029
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: mean the hundred million dollars, the fanfare. I remember when

1030
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders side had the press conference in Oakland. I

1031
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 1: was not allowed to go by the way. I was told,

1032
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 1: do not show up. I asked for a media credential.

1033
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,880
Speaker 1: They said nope. I said, okay, you know, d you

1034
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,200
Speaker 1: can play that game. Uh. But I actually gave them

1035
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:07,960
Speaker 1: a lot of credit for the higher It's been an

1036
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: utter disaster. You know, he's just he's a terrible team builder.

1037
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no way around it. Now he's got

1038
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,399
Speaker 1: Derek's career going again, but he's drafted horribly. He did

1039
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,239
Speaker 1: not parlay the Khalil Mack and Amari Cooper you know,

1040
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:26,040
Speaker 1: trades into enough. They've signed horrible free agents. The defense

1041
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: has been atrocious. Um, if they keep losing, I think

1042
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 1: there's no way he lasts ten years. If he's able

1043
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: to make the playoffs. My prediction is if they missed

1044
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:39,239
Speaker 1: the playoffs, the next couple of years. I think he'll

1045
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: just retire, you know, step away and quit. I can't

1046
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: see him continue to coach and lose because he's already

1047
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: so rich. Like John Gruden's not doing this for the money.

1048
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: John Gruden was worth a hundred million plus dollars when

1049
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,720
Speaker 1: he took the job. He does not need this money.

1050
00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,520
Speaker 1: The money is just strictly ego, because his ego is

1051
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: fucking massive. But this is not like I mean, it's

1052
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 1: technically a money grab, but to me, a lot of

1053
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,920
Speaker 1: times the money grab, you know, you kind of need

1054
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: the money. It's a huge step up in life. Gruden

1055
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 1: was making ten plus million dollars of the ESPN and Corona.

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Speaker 1: He gave all that up. Basically, he's like, hey, my

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Speaker 1: going rate is ten million dollars. ESPN pays me eight

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Speaker 1: Corona pays me. True, So you want to match mark?

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Speaker 1: This is what this is what it costs to play ball.

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Speaker 1: Marks Gal do it. We're growing to Vegas. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: let's ride and it has been a train wreck. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: everyone listening, and uh and yeah, I see you a

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