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Speaker 1: Of it, but are you're known for the heavy foot?
Speaker 1: But our guest Tonight per next gen stats on his
Speaker 1: thirty yard pick six went from zero to over nineteen
Speaker 1: miles per hour, and that qualifies as the fourth fastest
Speaker 1: in recent history by a ball carrier. Where Wayne two
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty pounds or more. To think about that,
Speaker 1: that's a big man running right there, and he is
Speaker 1: our guest tonight on The Big Red Rage, presented by
Speaker 1: Santan Ford in Gilbert Ron Wolflee There, Paul kelbc here
Speaker 1: and Zaven Collins our feature guests. Did it feel like
Speaker 1: nineteen plus miles per hour when you were in the
Speaker 1: open field? Yeah, it was pretty crazy. As soon as
Speaker 1: the ball him, I double clutched on the catch, got
Speaker 1: a piece of it, caught it, turned and his first
Speaker 1: thing run as fast as possible, so kind of just
Speaker 1: let loose and then once we were in the end zone, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just celebrated. But yeah, it was. It was awesome
Speaker 1: experience going going right after I got that ball. No,
Speaker 1: it's unbelievable, Zame, and it really is. So I gotta
Speaker 1: ask you right now here. It is, of course going
Speaker 1: into week ten of the regular season. How's the body
Speaker 1: holding up, buddy? Yeah, so, you know, obviously last year
Speaker 1: not playing as much as I would like, but this year,
Speaker 1: getting the full dose. I think I'm playing like ninety
Speaker 1: nine percent of snaps or something over you know, the
Speaker 1: amount of games, and you know, you definitely feel it.
Speaker 1: Start to learn how to be a pro when you
Speaker 1: get into the facility or before practice, taking care of
Speaker 1: your body, stretching, you know, getting warmed up. You just
Speaker 1: can't go out there cold anymore. So. But yeah, a
Speaker 1: little bit of soreness, but we're healthy for the most part.
Speaker 1: Quite the opposite. You said you hit the sauna at
Speaker 1: your key. Yeah, yeah, the sauna. The sauna after practice
Speaker 1: is definitely key a few times a week. It's funny
Speaker 1: because Wolf Wolf remembers last week we had Rondale Moore
Speaker 1: in here and he talked about everything he does. He
Speaker 1: has his own chief, he has these other like body mechanics.
Speaker 1: People will work on his body like it's a car,
Speaker 1: you know. And I'm like, he's in year two. He's
Speaker 1: a young guy just like you, and you won't you
Speaker 1: guys already feel that sort of stuff as necessary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Um just a little uh dings and ticks
Speaker 1: and stuff you get all over your body. Um. Me
Speaker 1: and Rondale and Colt McCoy and a few other teams.
Speaker 1: It's colts guy. But yeah, we use use a extra
Speaker 1: body therapist, you know, does the dry needling for us.
Speaker 1: And it's actually pretty good. You know, it helps, and
Speaker 1: they're kind of scary when you walk in the room.
Speaker 1: There's some big needles. But you know he gets your right, Zaban,
Speaker 1: I gotta ask you this right now. Tell me you're
Speaker 1: not laying all over a pilates ball. Tell me you're not. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no. It's more like in those gray in those
Speaker 1: gray girdle shorts and I'm on the gray band. You
Speaker 1: know why I say that. You know why I say
Speaker 1: that is because you're from Hominy, Oklahoma. Man. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: is that place like? And how would pilates go over there? Yeah? No,
Speaker 1: so I don't think they've ever heard of pilates for
Speaker 1: the most part. And then two, yeah, that does really
Speaker 1: happened there. We were just talking about that earlier. I
Speaker 1: was talking with my coach and he was like, when
Speaker 1: you go home for the off season, what's it like?
Speaker 1: And I was like, one of the worst things about
Speaker 1: going back home is if you know someone's not cooking food,
Speaker 1: you're eating sonic. You're eating sonic sonic. That's it. Because
Speaker 1: that's it, because that's the only thing you got in town. Seriously,
Speaker 1: so you're like, you know, there's a few other places
Speaker 1: they're there. Yeah, no good, But like I mean, you're saying,
Speaker 1: like Sonics like one of the top tier. There's only
Speaker 1: three things. So that's the problem with going back home
Speaker 1: and staying a while is you get you can you
Speaker 1: don't have like the proper nutrition and stuff to get back.
Speaker 1: I have the weight room and all that stuff, the
Speaker 1: old school with those old weights and stuff. That'll get
Speaker 1: me by for now running on the track. But yeah,
Speaker 1: the nutrition stuff is kind of you know, you gotta
Speaker 1: go fifteen minutes over to the next town to be
Speaker 1: able to go buy stuff to cook food. And because
Speaker 1: it's population thirty rights, is it pretty small farming community?
Speaker 1: That's that's that's including the prison that's outside of town,
Speaker 1: so it's it's pretty small. It's smaller than that. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's pretty small. I'm not lying that, I'm
Speaker 1: not making it up. Nick Connor is the correctional facility
Speaker 1: out there saying okay, okay, listen, no, So let's say
Speaker 1: I'm gonna roll into town. I've got the misses with me.
Speaker 1: We're rolling in. Don't blink, they've already missed it. It's
Speaker 1: a Friday night, man, Where am I gonna? Where should
Speaker 1: I go on a Friday night? You know, get a
Speaker 1: get a decent meal, a nice mail, and maybe have
Speaker 1: a cocktail. What would you suggest? Go twenty minutes to
Speaker 1: the next down. If you're gonna get in the car
Speaker 1: and roll around, you might as well make a road
Speaker 1: trip out of it. Go twenty minutes to the next town.
Speaker 1: That's the best. That's the best thing you got. I'm
Speaker 1: being serious, guys, Like, it's it's twenty minutes to the
Speaker 1: nearest town that has um all kinds of different places
Speaker 1: to eat, Like it's it's out there in the middle
Speaker 1: of nowhere. So in high school, you were literally the
Speaker 1: big man on campus. Not only six four whatever you
Speaker 1: wait in high school, but you were the quarterback. You
Speaker 1: had some ridiculous stats, as you might imagine. But what
Speaker 1: was it You were the valedictorian, four point er GPA.
Speaker 1: What was life? Well, you must have been the big
Speaker 1: fish and a very small bowl. Yeah, so it was.
Speaker 1: It was small though. The thing about high school is
Speaker 1: like I didn't have enough money growing up to for
Speaker 1: my family to put me through college. So it was
Speaker 1: just like, let's do it either academically or athletically, no
Speaker 1: matter what. Can't always count on athletes to get you.
Speaker 1: You know, that was just our thought going through because
Speaker 1: we're at a small school. So became four point zero,
Speaker 1: you know, automatically accepted into some start some colleges within
Speaker 1: the state of Oklahoma because you're a valedictorian. So that
Speaker 1: was a big one. We got scholarships for being a
Speaker 1: valedictorian at the Homony High School. You get a lot
Speaker 1: of scholarships from colleges and stuff, so that was a plus.
Speaker 1: And then you know the football side, I played football, basketball,
Speaker 1: ran track, played baseball. It was never easing, never ending.
Speaker 1: There was no off season like you know, guys, oh
Speaker 1: there's off season football, we're gonna lit wit. There was
Speaker 1: none of that. It was you got one day off
Speaker 1: and you put on basketball shoes and then you start
Speaker 1: running basketball, just running in the gym because you're not
Speaker 1: in basketball ship and that's the same thing. You go
Speaker 1: to baseball. You start hitting immediately as soon as you
Speaker 1: get in with basketball or and then you're also running track.
Speaker 1: And then you come into spring football and you got
Speaker 1: summer basketball and then you're into football again. See Wolf
Speaker 1: allegedly was all stayed in baseball. We don't. No one's
Speaker 1: ever proven that in high school. And so do you
Speaker 1: find that that has helped you at the NFL level
Speaker 1: when you're required to go sideline to sideline and at
Speaker 1: one moment you gotta stuff the a gap against the
Speaker 1: three hundred pounder, but the next moment you gotta run
Speaker 1: with a receiver or running back out in space. I mean,
Speaker 1: Zaven Collins, how much better are you equipped for your
Speaker 1: job just based on your multi sport background? Yeah, if
Speaker 1: you think about man and man coverage, whenever you're just
Speaker 1: giving a certain leverage, like it's like basketball, Like people
Speaker 1: that are playing basketball. I mean you're on the inside hip,
Speaker 1: you're on that outside hip. You're either low man in
Speaker 1: between him and the like. If you think about it,
Speaker 1: you're in between that guy and the goal, stopping between
Speaker 1: him and the goal. Same thing, man and man. You're
Speaker 1: in between that guy and then the end zone. Sure
Speaker 1: in certain in certain situations, like I think basketball attributes
Speaker 1: to a lot of lateral movement and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Baseball hand eye coordination, stuff like that, being able to
Speaker 1: catch the ball, see the ball, in field, you know,
Speaker 1: fumbles off the ground from the ground up, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like that really contributes. So I thought I thought
Speaker 1: being a multi sport athlete really helped me growing up obviously,
Speaker 1: and you know, always just running around, being outside constantly,
Speaker 1: always having some type of ball in my hand. And
Speaker 1: you know, the only sport that I've ever played that
Speaker 1: I was like, man, I can't do this was soccer.
Speaker 1: My feet are two b save but no. But tough
Speaker 1: game against the Seattle Seahawks, of course, I thought you
Speaker 1: guys played it well defensively for three quarters. What was
Speaker 1: the difference in that fourth quarter? Bro? Yeah? So, And
Speaker 1: the thing is is, like you say three like three
Speaker 1: quarters in, it's really four like three and a half
Speaker 1: like it. They didn't score those last two touchdowns till
Speaker 1: you know, eight minutes through four. I think there's eight
Speaker 1: minutes left in four something like that. I might be wrong,
Speaker 1: but um, it's pretty crazy that you know that happens
Speaker 1: like that. But it's our job as a defense to
Speaker 1: keep them, keep them out of the end zone. And
Speaker 1: you know, there was a couple of big plays where
Speaker 1: they got some stuff in there, and yeah, that's something
Speaker 1: that we can't allow. Happen, especially when we're in that
Speaker 1: close ballgame like that. You know, we scored, we went
Speaker 1: up on them, and then you know, offense goes back out,
Speaker 1: they score that, they go back out and score. It's
Speaker 1: like twenty one twenty four. We gotta you know, we
Speaker 1: gotta hold them there. But that's just stuff. As a
Speaker 1: defense you can't allow happen, especially late in the fourth
Speaker 1: and you know that's unfortunate. Well, after the game, we
Speaker 1: got we got a glimpse of what Cliff Kingsbury said
Speaker 1: to the locker room. Typically this is behind closed doors,
Speaker 1: but with Hard Knocks making its debut last night, HBO
Speaker 1: NFL Films was in there, and let's roll part of
Speaker 1: what Cliff Kingsbury had to say to the Cardinals the
Speaker 1: team after a thirty one twenty one loss at home.
Speaker 1: I know this playing hard, all right. The complimentary football
Speaker 1: just isn't there. All three phases together just hasn't been
Speaker 1: there all season. Don't understand what I'm saying. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been one group goes up, one goes down, one
Speaker 1: goes up, Special teams goes up, defense goes down. We
Speaker 1: gotta stick together though, I know that, all right. This
Speaker 1: one thing standing here right now. I know we gotta
Speaker 1: stick together. Three and six got eight guaranteed opportunities. All right,
Speaker 1: it's up to us what we do. But we gotta
Speaker 1: stick together, coaches, players, everybody and learn to play better together.
Speaker 1: All right. So whide' when you look at an FFC,
Speaker 1: it is what it is. But we got to come
Speaker 1: together and find a way. That's it. Yea. Of the
Speaker 1: seven NFC playoff teams a year ago, including the Cardinals,
Speaker 1: only two have a winning record right now. I mean
Speaker 1: it is upside down, there's no doubt about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that being the case, what's the frustration level? What's the
Speaker 1: confidence level? You think with this team that you can
Speaker 1: turn it around and maybe go on a run. So
Speaker 1: now you know, the frustration level is obviously what he
Speaker 1: had said, you know, complimentary football. It's like, you know,
Speaker 1: offense gets on a role and then defense starts like, man,
Speaker 1: well we're just stopped from the whole entire game. And
Speaker 1: then this happens, or you know, defense stop and then
Speaker 1: offense back and forth or special teams and neither one
Speaker 1: of us. So it's like that's what he's talking about,
Speaker 1: and that's where the frustration comes in. Like when they
Speaker 1: need it most, we can't deliver, and then when we
Speaker 1: need it most, you know, vice versa. And that's just
Speaker 1: all he's talking about right there, and you know, and
Speaker 1: that's what we just gotta fix. And I think if
Speaker 1: we just stick together and just it's like minor things.
Speaker 1: We VJ was saying something about it today. He said it,
Speaker 1: and I can't remember the word, but he was so
Speaker 1: spot on with what he said. And it's literally being
Speaker 1: off of mark by you know, one to two yards.
Speaker 1: It happens to me, It's happened to me a couple
Speaker 1: of times to see in the season, and it's just
Speaker 1: like in certain coverages or certain something certain fits and
Speaker 1: it's just one or two guys being off by just
Speaker 1: one to two yards. It's literally that's small at the
Speaker 1: game of inches, and then that's what happens. Zavin. You're
Speaker 1: playing almost one hundred percent of the snaps at this
Speaker 1: point in the season. What's this doing for your game? Man? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So playing one hundred percent of the snaps has been
Speaker 1: you know, it's fun. You get into the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: it's close ball game, about to go into two minute
Speaker 1: and it's just like, you know, it's time to grind
Speaker 1: this is what you just kind of think back of
Speaker 1: the summer and you're like, this is what you train for,
Speaker 1: this is what you do, Like this is us. You know,
Speaker 1: it's time to go. It's kind to go do our thing.
Speaker 1: It's time to go stop them, and you know, playing
Speaker 1: all those snaps, it's really you know, let me know
Speaker 1: a lot about the game, a lot about what offenses
Speaker 1: are trying to do, where they're trying to get us.
Speaker 1: When we put certain personnel into the game, where are
Speaker 1: they're going to attack us. You know what's going to happen,
Speaker 1: and you know, learning that you know, and listen to
Speaker 1: what VJA calls and listen to how VJA like speaks
Speaker 1: in the meeting and how he's doing these breakdowns. You
Speaker 1: understand what his thought process is behind calling plays. So
Speaker 1: then it allows you to kind of have a jump
Speaker 1: on certain plays or certain situations. And it's really nice
Speaker 1: in that aspect. What has been the bigger learning curve
Speaker 1: for you going from small school high school ball to
Speaker 1: college or going from college and a smaller you know,
Speaker 1: it's tulsa super bowing middle linebacker and calling a defense
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Going from college to the NFL, that
Speaker 1: was It was a rough transition at first, but you know,
Speaker 1: you learned so much in a little bit of time,
Speaker 1: and it's really nice. I've learned a lot about the
Speaker 1: game and it's it's been fun. Well, you know what, Well,
Speaker 1: if we call it every game day, we're calling Cardinals games,
Speaker 1: and right now Zaban is behind only Buddha Baker and tackles.
Speaker 1: He has sixty one. He has a couple of sacks,
Speaker 1: he has the pick six we just heard, five tackles
Speaker 1: for lost, two quarterback hits. He has three passes, defense
Speaker 1: force fumble. He's been all over that field. And guess what.
Speaker 1: Their degree of difficulty continues because you have Sean mcvay's offense,
Speaker 1: which has been an issue for the Cardinals at times
Speaker 1: over the last few years. We'll talk about that and more.
Speaker 1: Was Zaban Collins in the Big Red Rage presented by
Speaker 1: Santan four in Gilbert Geno Smith and the pistol behind
Speaker 1: him as Kenneth Walker snapped the Smith, He's gonna throw
Speaker 1: and find the tough pip of the thirty s running
Speaker 1: it back fund to the funding the test tuck that
Speaker 1: off Saban Collins right awareness, that was a checkdown of
Speaker 1: the rights and Saban Collins read it. He picked it
Speaker 1: off and then he returned it to get the Cardinals
Speaker 1: to lead thirteen to ten, saving with a wood what
Speaker 1: I found pick and then shows off that speed that
Speaker 1: is a big man running taking it all the way
Speaker 1: back for a pick six. Pavy about a passion wolf
Speaker 1: on the call. It's a big red rage presented by
Speaker 1: satan Ford and Gilbert we are satan Ford was Savan
Speaker 1: Collins himself. By the way, the Cardinals defense leads the
Speaker 1: NFL in return touchdowns. That's now five, four pick sixes
Speaker 1: and a fumble return. Obviously the big one in overtime
Speaker 1: at Vegas to be the Raiders by Byron Murphy. So
Speaker 1: the defense has been opportunistic, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: How about the process of calling the defense, Zaban? And
Speaker 1: when I say calling it, sometimes I'm talking about just
Speaker 1: the actual technical aspect of it, because how many times
Speaker 1: do we see on the sideline the equipment guys are
Speaker 1: like bumbling around with a helmet, your helmet, trying to
Speaker 1: fix something in the helmet the transmission because it's not
Speaker 1: full proof, isn't. No, it's not. It's not like how
Speaker 1: we're talking now where everything's clear, and everyone needs to
Speaker 1: hear everyone. It's everyone can whisper. You got to realize
Speaker 1: when Vj's he's in a microphone that's picks up everything
Speaker 1: from all the fans, cheering, yelling, all the extra chatter.
Speaker 1: So it gets pretty hectic, and you know, in a
Speaker 1: breakdown and certain things like that situations third and short
Speaker 1: third and long third, medium, you know, two minute, you
Speaker 1: gotta know what he wants to call. If the mic
Speaker 1: goes out on the field, there's no time to stop.
Speaker 1: You gotta know what he wants to call. You gotta
Speaker 1: know what he's thinking in a general aspect. You know,
Speaker 1: he may want to do something off the books that
Speaker 1: he thinks is right, but from like a guideline, like, hey,
Speaker 1: this is what was on the script for this week.
Speaker 1: I gotta know what calls are within that little you know,
Speaker 1: section of what it is. And that's what happens whenever
Speaker 1: the mic goes out and what has to you know,
Speaker 1: be said. Also it's you know, sometimes like it'll cut
Speaker 1: off and the the things that he's trying to communicate
Speaker 1: to me doesn't get transcribed all the way doesn't get
Speaker 1: all the way through, and you got to just pick
Speaker 1: up where he left off off of you know, a
Speaker 1: certain whole list of words for the you know, for
Speaker 1: the call, and you got to pick up and know.
Speaker 1: And it can change from personnel, you know, especially in
Speaker 1: the bigger person I was like thirteen and then you know, twelve,
Speaker 1: It'll change. So it's really it's really different, and you
Speaker 1: gotta know situational situationally, you gotta gotta be aware out
Speaker 1: there for sure, not kind of, you have to be aware.
Speaker 1: So it's stuff like that where you kind of get
Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen all the time, but when it
Speaker 1: does happen, it's like a you know, you get thrown
Speaker 1: a bone. It's like whoa, yeah, it's out of nowhere.
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you are getting better week after
Speaker 1: week after week? Do you feel like you're getting better?
Speaker 1: For sure? Yeah? I think overall yeah, But just like
Speaker 1: anything else, there's been ups and downs, ups and downs,
Speaker 1: ups and downs. But from you know, the beginning to now,
Speaker 1: I think there's been definitely a trend of increase for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's just something that I try and take day
Speaker 1: by day, just being more trying to be more professional,
Speaker 1: trying to talk to guys, understand talk with Kyler see
Speaker 1: what he sees. Talking with Colt, see what he sees.
Speaker 1: You know, what do they do on this you know
Speaker 1: body language that talks a lot. Learning those small little
Speaker 1: details there's probably helped me a lot in my game
Speaker 1: throughout these you know, ten weeks. Well, that same question essentially,
Speaker 1: it was put to your defensive coordinator, Advanced Joseph, and
Speaker 1: he was just talking about time on the job and
Speaker 1: how it's helped your growth. Xavan's always been a very intentional,
Speaker 1: you know player. I mean, he wants to be good.
Speaker 1: It took some time obviously, you know, to be a
Speaker 1: mic backer in this league and call this defense with
Speaker 1: you know, with the volume that we have on game day.
Speaker 1: It's uh, it's tough, you know, but he's a smart guy.
Speaker 1: He wants to be good. And I'm not sure what click,
Speaker 1: but I think it's just time, you know, time on
Speaker 1: a job, you know, I mean, you can need it.
Speaker 1: Young guys don't get time to grotis days. You know,
Speaker 1: you want him to walk in and be you know,
Speaker 1: five year pros, but it doesn't work that way. Jayalen
Speaker 1: Thompson about two months ago told us all the extra
Speaker 1: time you have been putting in meeting with him in Buddha.
Speaker 1: Now you're gonna be without Buddha and he's been an
Speaker 1: absolute stalwart and an all pro for this defense. We
Speaker 1: heard Bill Davis on Hard Knocks talk about it, just
Speaker 1: challenge his own room, just say, you know what, if
Speaker 1: everybody could play as hard as Buddha, where would this
Speaker 1: defense be? So where is it going to be without
Speaker 1: Buddha against this Rams offense? You think, what's the challenge? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the thing is is like Buddha's still going to be
Speaker 1: on a sideline yelling at us no matter what, get
Speaker 1: to the ball. So that's that aspect will be there.
Speaker 1: And you know Buddha's obviously you see him running the
Speaker 1: ball full speed and it's like it's infectious. You just
Speaker 1: try and do the same thing, and you know, manipulate
Speaker 1: your way of doing it every single time. Just run,
Speaker 1: get to the ball, Get to the ball, Get to
Speaker 1: the ball. And you know, with our defense, I think
Speaker 1: you know what we've put on film and what we've
Speaker 1: done throughout the year of having a healthy defense, everyone
Speaker 1: running to the ball, no play is done, pushing the
Speaker 1: pile the other way, I think will be fine. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously we'd love to have booted there. He's one of
Speaker 1: the best players in the NFL obviously, you know what
Speaker 1: I've seen, you know what I mean, he's crazy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but um, you know I think he um, he trusts
Speaker 1: in us. You know we can do it when he's
Speaker 1: you know, not available, and we have to believe in
Speaker 1: ourselves we can too. He's a big part of this defense,
Speaker 1: and you know, we just got to go out there and,
Speaker 1: like you said, just try and match his energy whether
Speaker 1: you know he's there or not. Zavan. You got the
Speaker 1: Rams coming up of course this week. Um. Although I
Speaker 1: love what they do offensively, they're in eleven personnel like
Speaker 1: ninety nine percent of the time. Yeah, yeah, what seems
Speaker 1: to be all the time? Um, why is that with
Speaker 1: fell You know, they have so many athletes and they
Speaker 1: kind of do an unorthodox way of using eleven personnel.
Speaker 1: They'll get into like twenty one personnel looks, they'll get
Speaker 1: into like twelve personnel looks. They'll do condensed condensed splints
Speaker 1: out of the wide receiver where it looks like a
Speaker 1: so almost but you know, one wide receiver off it's
Speaker 1: just all eye candy. It's smoking mirrors. Guys moving back
Speaker 1: and forth, back and forth, motioning guys left and right,
Speaker 1: confuses them, makes you slow down. And then they run
Speaker 1: the same play, so you're like, oh my gosh, you guys,
Speaker 1: this is the same play. They're just doing it out
Speaker 1: of you know it all these different looks. That's all
Speaker 1: it is. They're running a lot of fast tempo hurry
Speaker 1: up on the ball. You see that on if you
Speaker 1: watch any of their you know, tape or film, that's
Speaker 1: what they're doing. And they're you know, they're and then
Speaker 1: moving guys. They're confusing people, so you know, they're using
Speaker 1: that shadow smoky mirror effect on you know a lot
Speaker 1: of their plays. And I think they live in that
Speaker 1: out of twelve personnel. You know, they have higbiez are
Speaker 1: tied in and then you know the rest of their
Speaker 1: eleven personnel group. And I think it's worked for him
Speaker 1: and they've done that in the past too, and they've
Speaker 1: they're one of the teams that have, you know, for
Speaker 1: the majority compared to other teams. They live in a
Speaker 1: lot eleven persons. That does that bring up any difficulties
Speaker 1: for you, Because they've got a guy Ben Scronic by
Speaker 1: way of example, who is a wide receiver. He can
Speaker 1: run all the wide receiver Roulson. You know he is
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at two hundred twenty four pounds. Zavin,
Speaker 1: they put him as you know, in the I format. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they put him in three point stance and they'll run
Speaker 1: ice so yeah, they'll run right lead, right right at
Speaker 1: your face and they do that. And the thing is
Speaker 1: they have other players on it where you think he's
Speaker 1: about the blocking and you're un right passion. He's running
Speaker 1: down the field right, and that's all it is. And
Speaker 1: that's smoky mirror eye candy. You think he's doing one
Speaker 1: thing and it's not. You know, that's what it is.
Speaker 1: And it works out for them. You gotta think, you know,
Speaker 1: if you make someone think out on the football field
Speaker 1: too much, it slows them down. And that's exactly what
Speaker 1: they've been doing. And with John Wolford, if he's in
Speaker 1: there from Matthew Stafford, here comes the quarterback run game
Speaker 1: as well. So it's gonna be another interesting wrinkle. Perhaps
Speaker 1: we'll see how that trend. Zaven Collins are guests in
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. So well, if anytime you're in
Speaker 1: the locker room, if you go over to Zaven's vicinity,
Speaker 1: there usually Tanner Vallejo's right next to him, and you
Speaker 1: can hear the classic rock. Okay, do you know that's Zaven? Yeah.
Speaker 1: So what you've been listening to recently, We've heard skinnered
Speaker 1: over there. We've even heard Johnny Cash at times. What
Speaker 1: even listening to recently? Johnny Cash, Jimi Hendrix, j R. Afferdy,
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, will play it, any of
Speaker 1: those old schools, classic rock, mellowed out. It's it's fun.
Speaker 1: That's that's a good side. Junkyard told me the other day.
Speaker 1: Junkyard Dog, he told me the other day. He's like, Zavian,
Speaker 1: you got some good music. You're the first person that's
Speaker 1: ever told me that. Marcus Gold, I was just gonna
Speaker 1: ask you that. I was gonna say, I'm flying with
Speaker 1: your teammates. Man. Yeah, it's not on the loudspeaker. I
Speaker 1: have to just play it on my phone. That's the
Speaker 1: only privilege that I have is my own personal phone,
Speaker 1: no speaker. I don't get to connect to any speaker.
Speaker 1: But it's just enough for me. A couple guys around me,
Speaker 1: they like it. They dig it um. But yeah, that's
Speaker 1: that's it. So you're you're more of a rock and
Speaker 1: roll guy than a country music guy. Because they took
Speaker 1: you out shopping for boots in Nashville. I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: I'll wait a minute. Are they profiling you because you're
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma? What's going on? Yeah? Not just from Oklahoma,
Speaker 1: smalltown Oklahoma. But you know, I do love my fair
Speaker 1: shared country. I will play that in the locker room,
Speaker 1: but you know, it's usually not as us gets me
Speaker 1: in the mood for football, like classic rock. Does you know,
Speaker 1: do you get a good pair of boot by the
Speaker 1: way when you're shopping? Yeah, we got some nice boots there.
Speaker 1: Um it was fun. Yeah, they all the all the
Speaker 1: people were that wear boots on a team. They're jealous.
Speaker 1: They're like, why didn't we get to go out? I
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't know. You don't wear boots
Speaker 1: now Cold does. Every summer. Wolf wears boots up and
Speaker 1: rush for New York. But he's kind of a fake cowboy.
Speaker 1: He thinks he's like, you know, like Kevin Costner from Yellowstone.
Speaker 1: He's up there wearing a cowboy hat. Yeah, I admit it, man,
Speaker 1: I do grab the cowboy had from time to time
Speaker 1: when I'm out there rush for New York. Population eleven
Speaker 1: hundred have to you have to when you out there. Yeah, hey, um,
Speaker 1: do you feel like this game is a must win?
Speaker 1: Coming up? By the way, every game's a must win.
Speaker 1: It's crazy when you think about it in the aspect
Speaker 1: of think of just last year, um, and not comparing
Speaker 1: the past to the present. But you learn from the past.
Speaker 1: If you go from a team eight, no, last year
Speaker 1: seven and ten and two, right, yea, and you look
Speaker 1: at every If you think of every game as a
Speaker 1: must win, it may a change thing going into like
Speaker 1: that divisional buy and stuff like that, and also the
Speaker 1: playoff game, you know what I mean. It gets you know,
Speaker 1: it's crazy. We had a little losing streak there at
Speaker 1: the end, you know, and we had a great start
Speaker 1: to the season. So if you treat every game just
Speaker 1: says it must win and just focus on this game.
Speaker 1: Obviously this year is important. We've lost six games or
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, three and six, Yeah, three
Speaker 1: and six. So it's like you just look at an
Speaker 1: aspect of Okay, we're at where're at. We can't change
Speaker 1: the past. Time to learn from it. Treat this game
Speaker 1: like you said one in Oh, you gotta win this
Speaker 1: game no matter what, and just move on. Go from there,
Speaker 1: prepare the same, do everything, learn from your sneak and
Speaker 1: then change like as far as prepare, I mean like
Speaker 1: getting ready for practice stuff like that, and then changing
Speaker 1: the preparation as in, where are we getting beat at?
Speaker 1: What are we doing wrong that? Yeah? For example, third
Speaker 1: down and red zone the last couple of games, right
Speaker 1: Van shows have sighted bolt today? Yes? Is there a pattern? There?
Speaker 1: Is there a constant? What do you do about those
Speaker 1: two areas right now? Yeah? So and you got to
Speaker 1: go and work on those you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: change like what we were doing wrong? Where was a
Speaker 1: communication breakdown? What is going on with this technique breakdown?
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what has to be fixed in
Speaker 1: the preparation when it comes to practice, and that is uh,
Speaker 1: you know, what you work on from week to week
Speaker 1: and learning what you've done wrong. So but yeah, at
Speaker 1: this point of the season, what is more difficult for you?
Speaker 1: Pass carverage or run support? That's that's good. Pass coverage
Speaker 1: is really not that hard for me because usually I'm
Speaker 1: in a you know, not too hard of a pass position.
Speaker 1: They don't have me out there on Cooper Cup. They
Speaker 1: don't have me out there with DK Metcalf. You know,
Speaker 1: if we are. I'm looking at the sideline tapping the helmet. Hey,
Speaker 1: you're going to try to I'll be yelling at get
Speaker 1: over the top of me. Let's bracket this man. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um. Yeah, But you know they're
Speaker 1: always making up some some tough run schemes for us. Um.
Speaker 1: I think, especially because we've done early on we're good
Speaker 1: with the run, um and then and you know they've
Speaker 1: kind of schemed us up and dublin linement up to
Speaker 1: you always have a linement on me. So the run
Speaker 1: is probably considering like it's a passing the league now
Speaker 1: if you think about it. Besides a few teams like Baltimore.
Speaker 1: You know, Eagles like to run the ball too. They're
Speaker 1: kind of the RPO living in the world. But going
Speaker 1: up against this offense, you know, you're thinking more pass
Speaker 1: out of a living personnel and stuff like that. It's
Speaker 1: a wrap it up here with saving Collins. You won't
Speaker 1: say it, but I will the unnecessary roughness call. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was a lot of I mean, come on, what
Speaker 1: was up with that week? So? How hard is it
Speaker 1: to play defense in the league? Just simply put real quick,
Speaker 1: It's difficult, isn't it. Yeah? It's very difficult. It's something
Speaker 1: that you have to be cautious. It's like, how am
Speaker 1: I supposed to be cautious and the guy has the
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. You know, you don't mean anything
Speaker 1: negative on anyone whenever you're going to hit someone, but
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like you don't want to
Speaker 1: go for any type of you know, fatal stuff like
Speaker 1: that where you know, head to head, you're out, you know,
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You just want to make a clean hit.
Speaker 1: And nowadays like that was a clean hit, Shoal with
Speaker 1: the shoulder and it's you know, unnecessary roughness. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't know I could get unnecessary reference
Speaker 1: with the do with the ball. So yeah, us either, Hey,
Speaker 1: we enjoyed it. Thank you, Zavan. Zavan grows strong, big guy.
Speaker 1: There you go. Zaven Collins our special guest on the
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage. We continue right after this. Do you
Speaker 1: buy Santan Pord and Gilbert We are Santan por first
Speaker 1: down of the Seattle fifteen play actiony boots to the right.
Speaker 1: The boot, that's the boot. The boot. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: the boot just ignored any type of boot play. You
Speaker 1: can't do it in that situation was great called by
Speaker 1: the Cityhawks my signing for me, that was being pretty
Speaker 1: wild and you know, being in a nut job on
Speaker 1: game day. But you know it's an emotional game. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of sami emotional game. I want to win.
Speaker 1: You know that weekly investment is heavy, you know, so
Speaker 1: if they score one point, man, my soul just leaves
Speaker 1: my every time you score. So I might embarrass to
Speaker 1: say I'm emotional game day, I'm not. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: this plan. You heard the real time reaction and then
Speaker 1: you heard Advanced Joseph yesterday at his weekly press conference
Speaker 1: talking about the Noah Fan fifty one yard catch and
Speaker 1: run on the boot. You heard Wolf's instant analysis from
Speaker 1: the radio booth. All angles covered courtesy of your Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio network here on the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley Annie
Speaker 1: NFL Films in HBO with the debut episode of Hard
Speaker 1: Knocks in season featuring the Arizona Cardinals, where you could
Speaker 1: see and hear the anguish on the face and voice
Speaker 1: of Advanced Joseph when that play unfolded, and it really
Speaker 1: did seal the game for all intents and purposes, didn't it? Wolf?
Speaker 1: Now you're right about that, Paully once again. And it
Speaker 1: just emphasizes the ability to attack the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and then use play action and the power of it.
Speaker 1: It's not a brilliant game. It's better round forever, of course,
Speaker 1: but the difficulty of it is it benefits from having
Speaker 1: human beings playing defense inside that box. When you're playing,
Speaker 1: when you're a human being and you're playing defense inside
Speaker 1: the box, Man, Now all of a sudden, you're gonna
Speaker 1: make mistakes and it's predicated on is it a run
Speaker 1: or is it a play action pass? That bootleg was
Speaker 1: executed to perfection and it worked. Yeah. It's amazing how
Speaker 1: many different Cardinals players and coaches were miked up during
Speaker 1: that debut edition of Hard Knocks in season Wolf, I
Speaker 1: know you guys talked about it this week on air.
Speaker 1: Give me some of your big your top takeaways. Can
Speaker 1: I just say this, Polly. First of all, you know
Speaker 1: me as a former player, I'm offended by cameras and
Speaker 1: microphones being inside the locker room twenty two Wolf, everything's
Speaker 1: done for video, Polly, I'm just telling you right now,
Speaker 1: I am. I want to be able to walk around
Speaker 1: and be me and not worry about everything I'm gonna say,
Speaker 1: or not worried about if if people are thinking I'm
Speaker 1: saying it because there are cameras and microphones around it.
Speaker 1: That's just me having said that. Can I tell you
Speaker 1: right now that I so enjoyed this last time. You
Speaker 1: watched every second of it? I watched every second of it, Paul. Yea,
Speaker 1: I've never seen Hard Knocks. I've only read about it.
Speaker 1: I've seen clips of it from time to time. Paul. No,
Speaker 1: I've never sat down and watched a Hard Knocks episode. Okay.
Speaker 1: I saw back in training camp when they would cut
Speaker 1: guys and stuff, and that made me sick to my stomach.
Speaker 1: How in the world could you possibly be in there
Speaker 1: while this guy's dream is being ruined? Okay, that's just me. Okay,
Speaker 1: But again, I watched it, Paul, and first of all,
Speaker 1: the appreciation for how well it's done. It's like art
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, Paul. The way that they're putting
Speaker 1: this stuff together, Yeah, I was. I was really really
Speaker 1: impressed and entertained. I have to admit. So there's a
Speaker 1: crew I understand of about eighty people staffing this from
Speaker 1: NFL Films, just to turn this around on a weekly basis.
Speaker 1: I had a chance there was a debut and a
Speaker 1: local theater, and I a chance to talk with some
Speaker 1: of the directors. There's four of them. I interviewed two
Speaker 1: of them. I asked them what percentage of the film
Speaker 1: that shot is actually used it makes the final edit.
Speaker 1: They said less than ten percent. I honestly thought it'd
Speaker 1: be more like one or two percent, because they're shooting
Speaker 1: everything everywhere, virtually at all times. It is staggering the
Speaker 1: amount of resources that goes into this production. But you're right,
Speaker 1: it is so well done. You think you know the team.
Speaker 1: You think you know the team, and then you watch
Speaker 1: that episode and you realize, Okay, even being on the sideline,
Speaker 1: I can see a lot of stuff, but I can
Speaker 1: hear it. So we actually hear what Kyler and die
Speaker 1: Hoop had to say to each other. It wasn't nearly
Speaker 1: as flagrant as perhaps it might have looked, and I
Speaker 1: saw it in real time, right in front of me.
Speaker 1: But you know, it was a little more tame than
Speaker 1: I anticipated when I actually heard their exchange. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I just actually learned some things not only about the
Speaker 1: team also, but about players individually and just being inside Bay.
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. Man, what I
Speaker 1: love to just go sit in one of the position
Speaker 1: rooms in the corner and just not say a word.
Speaker 1: Let me just sit there and listen to a coach
Speaker 1: and guess what, man Dara was what Billy Davis had
Speaker 1: to say about Buddha Baker in particular. I know we're
Speaker 1: going to get to that, but what he had to say, Polly,
Speaker 1: that blew my mind. That just filled me with love
Speaker 1: and appreciation for Buddha Baker and the impact he has
Speaker 1: on all his teammates. No further Ado, We're going to
Speaker 1: take you inside that position room. This is the inside
Speaker 1: linebackers room. The position coach is Bill Davis. And here's
Speaker 1: what they caught on camera. Man, I want to challenge
Speaker 1: you guys, somebody play harder than Buddha. Get a game.
Speaker 1: Watch when the something comes from here trying to play harder?
Speaker 1: What kind of defense what we had should be bolder? Again,
Speaker 1: hushle bas. I ran into Bill Davis earlier today and
Speaker 1: I asked him about that, and he said, first off,
Speaker 1: it's completely genuine. I have no idea when the cameras
Speaker 1: are on, he said. He sometimes we're all terrified what
Speaker 1: are they gonna capture? What are they gonna air? But
Speaker 1: he said, in my thirty years plus of coaching in
Speaker 1: the NFL, I've never ever seen someone just pop off
Speaker 1: the film like Buddha Baker. That was his reaction. So
Speaker 1: that's why he holds him up as the standard to
Speaker 1: try and aspire to. If you're anybody else on the field,
Speaker 1: can you bring it like Buddha? Yeah? You know into Paul,
Speaker 1: the power that that has, you know, you hearing me
Speaker 1: talk about how a player can impact his teammates in
Speaker 1: a very intangible kind of way, make them better than
Speaker 1: they really are, just by his mere presence. That's Buddha.
Speaker 1: That that's what Buddha does. You watch Buddha Baker and
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden the challenge, And I love
Speaker 1: the way Billy framed it up for his linebackers in
Speaker 1: that room. Somebody, I challenge you, I challenge you, as
Speaker 1: your coach. Somebody play harder than Buddhi. He didn't say, Paul,
Speaker 1: somebody play better than Buddha. He said, somebody play harder
Speaker 1: than Buddha. You know, I yep that because you can
Speaker 1: control that. You control, Yes, you can't necessarily be better
Speaker 1: than an all pro, but you can control how hard
Speaker 1: you go. Imagine what kind of defense we'd have if
Speaker 1: guys played tried to play harder than Buddha Baker. And
Speaker 1: that's that's the charge to every guy that is on
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball and every guy that's
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. And honestly, maybe
Speaker 1: the most captivating video in the entire fifty minute plus
Speaker 1: episode was Buddha's postgame speech after the Eagles loss at home,
Speaker 1: where he Darnier lost his mind in that locker room.
Speaker 1: Just the anguish, the emotion, and how he's trying to
Speaker 1: implore everyone to be better at their jobs to stop
Speaker 1: the home losing streak, which, by the way, they did
Speaker 1: in the next home game. But I was actually down
Speaker 1: getting ready to do the postgame interviews Wolf and I'm
Speaker 1: down sort of adjacent to the locker room, and I
Speaker 1: could hear every word. I had no idea who it was.
Speaker 1: I could hear the whole thing. Somebody just going crazy
Speaker 1: in that locker room. So you see, and you literally
Speaker 1: witnessed how Buddha wears it. He wears it emotionally every
Speaker 1: single game, and that's the kind of plays. Why is
Speaker 1: the team captain put it that well, you know, it
Speaker 1: reminded me so much of old school. I mean, that
Speaker 1: was Jim Haniffin right there. That was Jim Haniffin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the profanity of course, and Jim Haniffan going off and
Speaker 1: how impassioned it was, how genuine it was, how real
Speaker 1: it was, and then he kneeled down and through the
Speaker 1: Lord's prog right now that contract. That was beautiful to
Speaker 1: actually see that because it was so real at that
Speaker 1: point in time. You know what else we learned was
Speaker 1: that if Kyler Murray hadn't tweaked his hamstring, maybe he
Speaker 1: outraces Ryan Neil and there's no fumble at the end
Speaker 1: of the first half that you know what, that DV
Speaker 1: doesn't catch up to a healthy Kyler Murray. But he
Speaker 1: had tweaked his hamstring just earlier on a seventeen yard
Speaker 1: scramble and then all of a sudden the Seattle Seahawk
Speaker 1: was able to keep up with him and knock that
Speaker 1: ball loose. And none of us knew at the time
Speaker 1: that he was dealing with a less than one hamstring.
Speaker 1: So that was interesting to learn yeah, No, I'm with
Speaker 1: you on that one. He's still got to cover the
Speaker 1: ball balling. Oh yeah, you still still got to cover
Speaker 1: up the ball. Kyler's got to get better at that.
Speaker 1: That's happened twice now, he's got to get better at
Speaker 1: talking the ball. That's a hard habit to break when
Speaker 1: you've gotten to this point and you really haven't had
Speaker 1: to talk the ball. But you gotta train your mind. Man.
Speaker 1: You gotta get better, and it starts by doing the
Speaker 1: little things. It was entertaining to see the Cardinals practice
Speaker 1: in the rain and all the whining and complaining about
Speaker 1: the cool weather and the rain. That was That was hilarious.
Speaker 1: I visited the Cliff House we call it right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury's place and his view of Camelback. He said
Speaker 1: he never sees it because he leaves when it's dark
Speaker 1: and he returns home when it's dark. So and then,
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Speaker 1: We continue with a big Red Rage presented by Santan
Speaker 1: Ford in Gilbert approtation Cooper Cup on a jet sweet pass.
Speaker 1: It totally fools the Cardinals ten five walk in touchdown
Speaker 1: that totally fulled the Cardinals. He came in motion, took
Speaker 1: it on a jet sweep to the far side. All
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were running to the left of the formation,
Speaker 1: Cooper was running to the other side, and he walks
Speaker 1: in basically from twenty yards out for the first touchdown
Speaker 1: of the game. It's always something with Sean mcvagh in
Speaker 1: that scheme. He always has some sort of eye candy
Speaker 1: that's apt to throw the front seven and then boom,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a running lane for a
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. There's always something they haven't seen before. Despite
Speaker 1: the fact that the Rams have scored more than twenty
Speaker 1: points only one time this season, think about that. You
Speaker 1: beat LA and guess what. Then you set up a
Speaker 1: meaningful game in Mexico City against the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: who've you've yet to play in the NFC West. It's
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.
Speaker 1: We are santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and beat
Speaker 1: LA the Rams and guess what? It could look a
Speaker 1: lot different this time around? Could or not? Ron Wolfley?
Speaker 1: If John Wolford goes against Colt McCoy then Game one
Speaker 1: we just heard there will have basically no bearing on
Speaker 1: this rematch. Yeah, Paula, you're right about that. It's going
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see what happens, of course, the
Speaker 1: rest of this weekend coming up. So the health of
Speaker 1: both teams certainly has been an issue in a problem
Speaker 1: here this season, especially Paul when you look at the offenses,
Speaker 1: and in particular, I would say the offensive line, not
Speaker 1: the offensive line is we all know the Cardinals has
Speaker 1: really been banged up, just an absolute mass. Rodney Hut
Speaker 1: and of course Justin Pugh is done for the year.
Speaker 1: He's on IR now, Will Hernandez has been placed on IR.
Speaker 1: You've got your tackles, Calvin Beachum of course, and DJ
Speaker 1: Humphreys all banged up right now. Well guess what The
Speaker 1: Rams offensive line is as just as much a mess
Speaker 1: for the most part as the Cardinals offensive line. And
Speaker 1: to me, Polly, it's so fascinating because you hear me
Speaker 1: say this all the time. You need an offensive line
Speaker 1: that is good enough to allow your talent to do
Speaker 1: what they do. And right now the offensive lines are
Speaker 1: both banged up for the Cardinals and the Rams, and
Speaker 1: both offenses are struggling mightily. Look no QB, no chance,
Speaker 1: but one B is no offensive line, no chance for
Speaker 1: your weapons to operate. You're absolutely right. That is the
Speaker 1: quickest downfall for any talented team if you can't block
Speaker 1: it up front. That has been the case. Guess what
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna have to do with Aaron Donald. But
Speaker 1: that Ram offensive line is the only offensive line to
Speaker 1: suffer more injuries in the Cardinals this season. And that
Speaker 1: and more is what Vance Joseph had to talk about
Speaker 1: this week than when he looks at that Rams game film.
Speaker 1: It's the same offense, but like most teams who have injuries,
Speaker 1: you know, it won't be the same, you know, and
Speaker 1: Cups still win the best in the league to them.
Speaker 1: The backs are all good, but the line has been
Speaker 1: beat up, you know, in his obvious on tape. If
Speaker 1: you can't block anybody, you should you can't run to
Speaker 1: throw it, and that's been their problem. They'll get some
Speaker 1: guys back this week, you know, so it should be
Speaker 1: better for them, hopefully not, you know, but um, you know,
Speaker 1: you're not playing with your best guys. That's what it
Speaker 1: looks like. It's the NFL, you know, and your best
Speaker 1: players help you obviously win games, and when you're playing
Speaker 1: with young guys and backups, it won't be as good.
Speaker 1: That's just that's really simple, you know. That's where they
Speaker 1: are the Rams. In this last game against the Bucks
Speaker 1: and the loss at the very end sixteen thirteen, the
Speaker 1: offense went three and out eight times. Wow, it's they
Speaker 1: had just over two hundred yards total offense, and Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup accounted for one hundred and twenty seven of it
Speaker 1: because he had a sixty nine yard touchdown catching another
Speaker 1: thirty four yard chunk reception. Otherwise they did a lot
Speaker 1: of nothing on offense. Yeah, Paully, think about this right now.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has been sacked twenty eight times, twenty times
Speaker 1: this year, and all of last year, Pauli, he was
Speaker 1: sacked thirty times. Okay, thirty times. Now think about it.
Speaker 1: They still have nine games to go this year, twenty
Speaker 1: eight sacks on the season right now, they are number
Speaker 1: twenty seven as a matter of fact in sacks per
Speaker 1: attempt allowed. And you've got Matthew Stafford who in eight
Speaker 1: games has only thrown eight touchdown passes in eight games,
Speaker 1: and he's thrown eight interceptions in eight games. Man I'll
Speaker 1: tell you. It just goes to show you once again
Speaker 1: the impact that an offensive line can truly have on
Speaker 1: an offense and in particular on your skill positions. Maybe
Speaker 1: they need to go back and give Andrew Whitworth twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one Team MVP award based on the aftermath of
Speaker 1: losing their left tackle. Oh you were all over that, man,
Speaker 1: You were talking about that very thing right there. Well,
Speaker 1: they were a disaster before what work they really were.
Speaker 1: I know they made a bunch of other moves obviously,
Speaker 1: but that was the key. Um. What's interesting is this
Speaker 1: quote is this is one of the head coaches, and
Speaker 1: I quote changes have to be made, Adjustments have to
Speaker 1: be made. We can't continue to go on like this.
Speaker 1: I'm a big part of this. I have to do better.
Speaker 1: We have to look inward figured out what are some
Speaker 1: of the solutions and changes and adjustments and different things
Speaker 1: we have to be able to do to get different results.
Speaker 1: Couldn't that easily be either head coach at this point?
Speaker 1: Yes it could because it is Sean McVay. Just it's
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. But but this similar spots, aren't they? Yeah, Paul,
Speaker 1: I mean it is. You've got to look at everything
Speaker 1: at this point in time. It's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I you know me, I'm hopeful that this offense
Speaker 1: will continue to evolve, that they'll do some things that
Speaker 1: will evolve this offense. And I think Sean mcvayh is
Speaker 1: faced with the same situation as well, and he's listen
Speaker 1: to his credit, he's being very, very accountable number one,
Speaker 1: and he's saying, we're gonna look at everything. We're gonna
Speaker 1: look at all of this and do something because we
Speaker 1: can't just continue to go down the same road. And look,
Speaker 1: you heard the Cooper Cup touchdown run, but he had
Speaker 1: only four catches for forty four yards, no touchdown receptions.
Speaker 1: He was a non factor in the passing game. Cardinals
Speaker 1: did an excellent job taking him away in Week three.
Speaker 1: So if you're able to neutralize Cooper Cup, who's the
Speaker 1: other guy that can beat you? Sort of like the Cardinals.
Speaker 1: If Jalen Ramsey is on DeAndre Hopkins, then what who's
Speaker 1: the other guy who's gonna step up? Is it a
Speaker 1: zach Ertz, Is it a Rondel Mordes? James Connor put
Speaker 1: together another performance like he did in LA Week four
Speaker 1: the regular season a year ago when the Cardinals ran
Speaker 1: at forty times or two hundred and sixteen yards. I
Speaker 1: mean he got up and he got up try and
Speaker 1: block Aaron Donald. So what is your approach if your
Speaker 1: Cliff kings baron offense? Yeah, exactly what is your approach?
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what that approach is going to be,
Speaker 1: but you have to try to run the ball. If
Speaker 1: you get into a situation where you throw the ball
Speaker 1: fifty eight times like the Arizona Cardinals did last time
Speaker 1: they played the Rams, fall that is playing right into
Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, the defensive coordinator, right into his hands. If
Speaker 1: that's the case, because Aaron Donald and that pass rush
Speaker 1: will feast on Kyler Murray, There's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: He has a six and a half sacks in the
Speaker 1: last six games and about sixty quarterback pressures. And you're
Speaker 1: going against He's gonna be going against the Cardinals offensive line.
Speaker 1: This is gonna be their seventh different offensive line combination
Speaker 1: already this season. So to your point, we come full circle,
Speaker 1: which offensive line holds up better? And that might right
Speaker 1: there give you the clear cut winner as to this matchup,
Speaker 1: a must win game for both teams who have both,
Speaker 1: by the way, lost four the last five think about
Speaker 1: that rams are three five Cardinals at three and six.
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