WEBVTT - Big Red Rage - Zaven Collins Making Mark 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:05.720 Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh ahead, 0:00:05.840 --> 0:00:10.680 he got jacked. This is the Big Red Rain presented 0:00:10.680 --> 0:00:14.960 by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's Gonna score touchdown Slam to 0:00:15.040 --> 0:00:18.000 the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. He came 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:23.319 flying into the backfield. The rage is brought to you 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:29.240 by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford State Farm? 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.400 Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm, 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:38.040 And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Hacy Cardinals dot com, 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:46.880 Slash Podcasts, The Reds, Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision, flurring, rage 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.000 taking over. Here's Paul Calvci. I'm ready. I'm one hundred 0:00:51.000 --> 0:00:54.520 percent ready. I'm telling you I'm ready. And Ron Wolflee. 0:00:54.520 --> 0:01:00.720 It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far well. 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.680 If I don't know what sort of acceleration zero to sixty, 0:01:03.760 --> 0:01:07.680 what sort of pickup you have in your pickup? Your 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.520 f one fifty from Tim Holvic and santan Ford. Here 0:01:11.520 --> 0:01:13.960 on the Big Red Rage, brought to you by santan Ford. 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.080 Of it, but are you're known for the heavy foot? 0:01:17.200 --> 0:01:20.800 But our guest Tonight per next gen stats on his 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:26.320 thirty yard pick six went from zero to over nineteen 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:32.000 miles per hour, and that qualifies as the fourth fastest 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:35.560 in recent history by a ball carrier. Where Wayne two 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.160 hundred and sixty pounds or more. To think about that, 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:40.840 that's a big man running right there, and he is 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:43.160 our guest tonight on The Big Red Rage, presented by 0:01:43.160 --> 0:01:46.160 Santan Ford in Gilbert Ron Wolflee There, Paul kelbc here 0:01:46.240 --> 0:01:49.640 and Zaven Collins our feature guests. Did it feel like 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:51.800 nineteen plus miles per hour when you were in the 0:01:51.880 --> 0:01:54.080 open field? Yeah, it was pretty crazy. As soon as 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:57.800 the ball him, I double clutched on the catch, got 0:01:57.800 --> 0:01:59.640 a piece of it, caught it, turned and his first 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:02.400 thing run as fast as possible, so kind of just 0:02:02.480 --> 0:02:04.640 let loose and then once we were in the end zone, yeah, 0:02:04.640 --> 0:02:06.760 I just celebrated. But yeah, it was. It was awesome 0:02:06.800 --> 0:02:10.160 experience going going right after I got that ball. No, 0:02:10.360 --> 0:02:12.800 it's unbelievable, Zame, and it really is. So I gotta 0:02:12.840 --> 0:02:15.399 ask you right now here. It is, of course going 0:02:15.480 --> 0:02:19.760 into week ten of the regular season. How's the body 0:02:20.160 --> 0:02:23.200 holding up, buddy? Yeah, so, you know, obviously last year 0:02:23.320 --> 0:02:26.920 not playing as much as I would like, but this year, 0:02:26.960 --> 0:02:28.920 getting the full dose. I think I'm playing like ninety 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:30.919 nine percent of snaps or something over you know, the 0:02:30.960 --> 0:02:33.040 amount of games, and you know, you definitely feel it. 0:02:33.600 --> 0:02:35.480 Start to learn how to be a pro when you 0:02:35.520 --> 0:02:37.679 get into the facility or before practice, taking care of 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:40.480 your body, stretching, you know, getting warmed up. You just 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.359 can't go out there cold anymore. So. But yeah, a 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.720 little bit of soreness, but we're healthy for the most part. 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:48.079 Quite the opposite. You said you hit the sauna at 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:51.200 your key. Yeah, yeah, the sauna. The sauna after practice 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.080 is definitely key a few times a week. It's funny 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:56.720 because Wolf Wolf remembers last week we had Rondale Moore 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.120 in here and he talked about everything he does. He 0:02:59.200 --> 0:03:02.560 has his own chief, he has these other like body mechanics. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:04.679 People will work on his body like it's a car, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.200 you know. And I'm like, he's in year two. He's 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.560 a young guy just like you, and you won't you 0:03:09.600 --> 0:03:12.359 guys already feel that sort of stuff as necessary. Yeah, 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:16.880 for sure. Um just a little uh dings and ticks 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:18.799 and stuff you get all over your body. Um. Me 0:03:18.880 --> 0:03:20.840 and Rondale and Colt McCoy and a few other teams. 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.120 It's colts guy. But yeah, we use use a extra 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:26.880 body therapist, you know, does the dry needling for us. 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.200 And it's actually pretty good. You know, it helps, and 0:03:29.720 --> 0:03:31.440 they're kind of scary when you walk in the room. 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:34.400 There's some big needles. But you know he gets your right, Zaban, 0:03:34.440 --> 0:03:36.120 I gotta ask you this right now. Tell me you're 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:39.840 not laying all over a pilates ball. Tell me you're not. No, no, no, 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.120 no no. It's more like in those gray in those 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.040 gray girdle shorts and I'm on the gray band. You 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.080 know why I say that. You know why I say 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:52.200 that is because you're from Hominy, Oklahoma. Man. Yeah, what 0:03:52.480 --> 0:03:55.720 is that place like? And how would pilates go over there? Yeah? No, 0:03:55.880 --> 0:03:57.800 so I don't think they've ever heard of pilates for 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.200 the most part. And then two, yeah, that does really 0:04:00.240 --> 0:04:02.800 happened there. We were just talking about that earlier. I 0:04:02.920 --> 0:04:04.680 was talking with my coach and he was like, when 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:06.040 you go home for the off season, what's it like? 0:04:06.120 --> 0:04:08.320 And I was like, one of the worst things about 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:11.320 going back home is if you know someone's not cooking food, 0:04:11.560 --> 0:04:15.880 you're eating sonic. You're eating sonic sonic. That's it. Because 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.279 that's it, because that's the only thing you got in town. Seriously, 0:04:18.400 --> 0:04:20.360 so you're like, you know, there's a few other places 0:04:20.400 --> 0:04:23.440 they're there. Yeah, no good, But like I mean, you're saying, 0:04:23.440 --> 0:04:25.320 like Sonics like one of the top tier. There's only 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.560 three things. So that's the problem with going back home 0:04:28.600 --> 0:04:30.560 and staying a while is you get you can you 0:04:30.600 --> 0:04:33.599 don't have like the proper nutrition and stuff to get back. 0:04:33.680 --> 0:04:35.120 I have the weight room and all that stuff, the 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.680 old school with those old weights and stuff. That'll get 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:39.880 me by for now running on the track. But yeah, 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:41.920 the nutrition stuff is kind of you know, you gotta 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.600 go fifteen minutes over to the next town to be 0:04:43.640 --> 0:04:46.119 able to go buy stuff to cook food. And because 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:50.480 it's population thirty rights, is it pretty small farming community? 0:04:50.600 --> 0:04:53.200 That's that's that's including the prison that's outside of town, 0:04:53.360 --> 0:04:56.760 so it's it's pretty small. It's smaller than that. So 0:04:57.200 --> 0:05:00.240 it's like it's pretty small. I'm not lying that, I'm 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:03.120 not making it up. Nick Connor is the correctional facility 0:05:03.160 --> 0:05:06.440 out there saying okay, okay, listen, no, So let's say 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:09.520 I'm gonna roll into town. I've got the misses with me. 0:05:09.680 --> 0:05:14.000 We're rolling in. Don't blink, they've already missed it. It's 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.919 a Friday night, man, Where am I gonna? Where should 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:18.920 I go on a Friday night? You know, get a 0:05:19.080 --> 0:05:22.680 get a decent meal, a nice mail, and maybe have 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:27.680 a cocktail. What would you suggest? Go twenty minutes to 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:30.720 the next down. If you're gonna get in the car 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:32.320 and roll around, you might as well make a road 0:05:32.360 --> 0:05:34.200 trip out of it. Go twenty minutes to the next town. 0:05:34.560 --> 0:05:36.160 That's the best. That's the best thing you got. I'm 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.440 being serious, guys, Like, it's it's twenty minutes to the 0:05:39.640 --> 0:05:43.160 nearest town that has um all kinds of different places 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.000 to eat, Like it's it's out there in the middle 0:05:45.000 --> 0:05:47.720 of nowhere. So in high school, you were literally the 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:50.360 big man on campus. Not only six four whatever you 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:53.320 wait in high school, but you were the quarterback. You 0:05:53.400 --> 0:05:56.000 had some ridiculous stats, as you might imagine. But what 0:05:56.200 --> 0:05:58.919 was it You were the valedictorian, four point er GPA. 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:01.160 What was life? Well, you must have been the big 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:03.680 fish and a very small bowl. Yeah, so it was. 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.200 It was small though. The thing about high school is 0:06:06.240 --> 0:06:08.120 like I didn't have enough money growing up to for 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:09.760 my family to put me through college. So it was 0:06:09.800 --> 0:06:13.240 just like, let's do it either academically or athletically, no 0:06:13.360 --> 0:06:16.160 matter what. Can't always count on athletes to get you. 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:18.880 You know, that was just our thought going through because 0:06:18.920 --> 0:06:22.720 we're at a small school. So became four point zero, 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.120 you know, automatically accepted into some start some colleges within 0:06:26.160 --> 0:06:28.800 the state of Oklahoma because you're a valedictorian. So that 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:31.320 was a big one. We got scholarships for being a 0:06:31.400 --> 0:06:34.760 valedictorian at the Homony High School. You get a lot 0:06:34.800 --> 0:06:38.359 of scholarships from colleges and stuff, so that was a plus. 0:06:38.440 --> 0:06:41.280 And then you know the football side, I played football, basketball, 0:06:41.400 --> 0:06:44.800 ran track, played baseball. It was never easing, never ending. 0:06:44.880 --> 0:06:47.520 There was no off season like you know, guys, oh 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.520 there's off season football, we're gonna lit wit. There was 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:51.719 none of that. It was you got one day off 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:55.120 and you put on basketball shoes and then you start 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.200 running basketball, just running in the gym because you're not 0:06:58.279 --> 0:07:00.320 in basketball ship and that's the same thing. You go 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:02.560 to baseball. You start hitting immediately as soon as you 0:07:02.600 --> 0:07:05.760 get in with basketball or and then you're also running track. 0:07:06.480 --> 0:07:09.200 And then you come into spring football and you got 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:12.679 summer basketball and then you're into football again. See Wolf 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:15.280 allegedly was all stayed in baseball. We don't. No one's 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.280 ever proven that in high school. And so do you 0:07:19.520 --> 0:07:22.200 find that that has helped you at the NFL level 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:25.080 when you're required to go sideline to sideline and at 0:07:25.160 --> 0:07:27.680 one moment you gotta stuff the a gap against the 0:07:27.760 --> 0:07:29.960 three hundred pounder, but the next moment you gotta run 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:33.640 with a receiver or running back out in space. I mean, 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:36.240 Zaven Collins, how much better are you equipped for your 0:07:36.320 --> 0:07:39.440 job just based on your multi sport background? Yeah, if 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.400 you think about man and man coverage, whenever you're just 0:07:41.480 --> 0:07:44.040 giving a certain leverage, like it's like basketball, Like people 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.400 that are playing basketball. I mean you're on the inside hip, 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:49.600 you're on that outside hip. You're either low man in 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:51.400 between him and the like. If you think about it, 0:07:51.480 --> 0:07:53.640 you're in between that guy and the goal, stopping between 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:55.520 him and the goal. Same thing, man and man. You're 0:07:55.520 --> 0:07:57.760 in between that guy and then the end zone. Sure 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:01.320 in certain in certain situations, like I think basketball attributes 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.320 to a lot of lateral movement and stuff like that. 0:08:03.440 --> 0:08:05.720 Baseball hand eye coordination, stuff like that, being able to 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:07.960 catch the ball, see the ball, in field, you know, 0:08:08.480 --> 0:08:10.880 fumbles off the ground from the ground up, you know, 0:08:11.040 --> 0:08:15.680 stuff like that really contributes. So I thought I thought 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:19.640 being a multi sport athlete really helped me growing up obviously, 0:08:19.720 --> 0:08:22.840 and you know, always just running around, being outside constantly, 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.440 always having some type of ball in my hand. And 0:08:25.880 --> 0:08:27.640 you know, the only sport that I've ever played that 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.760 I was like, man, I can't do this was soccer. 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:36.720 My feet are two b save but no. But tough 0:08:36.800 --> 0:08:39.760 game against the Seattle Seahawks, of course, I thought you 0:08:39.840 --> 0:08:44.360 guys played it well defensively for three quarters. What was 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:46.839 the difference in that fourth quarter? Bro? Yeah? So, And 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:49.199 the thing is is, like you say three like three 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:51.800 quarters in, it's really four like three and a half 0:08:51.920 --> 0:08:54.240 like it. They didn't score those last two touchdowns till 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.000 you know, eight minutes through four. I think there's eight 0:08:57.040 --> 0:08:59.320 minutes left in four something like that. I might be wrong, 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.320 but um, it's pretty crazy that you know that happens 0:09:03.400 --> 0:09:05.760 like that. But it's our job as a defense to 0:09:05.960 --> 0:09:07.880 keep them, keep them out of the end zone. And 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:09.920 you know, there was a couple of big plays where 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:13.680 they got some stuff in there, and yeah, that's something 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:15.400 that we can't allow. Happen, especially when we're in that 0:09:15.480 --> 0:09:18.760 close ballgame like that. You know, we scored, we went 0:09:18.880 --> 0:09:21.560 up on them, and then you know, offense goes back out, 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.679 they score that, they go back out and score. It's 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:26.120 like twenty one twenty four. We gotta you know, we 0:09:26.200 --> 0:09:30.480 gotta hold them there. But that's just stuff. As a 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:33.160 defense you can't allow happen, especially late in the fourth 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:38.880 and you know that's unfortunate. Well, after the game, we 0:09:39.040 --> 0:09:42.520 got we got a glimpse of what Cliff Kingsbury said 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:45.320 to the locker room. Typically this is behind closed doors, 0:09:45.480 --> 0:09:48.840 but with Hard Knocks making its debut last night, HBO 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:51.559 NFL Films was in there, and let's roll part of 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:53.599 what Cliff Kingsbury had to say to the Cardinals the 0:09:53.720 --> 0:09:56.360 team after a thirty one twenty one loss at home. 0:09:56.960 --> 0:10:01.040 I know this playing hard, all right. The complimentary football 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.920 just isn't there. All three phases together just hasn't been 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.400 there all season. Don't understand what I'm saying. I mean, 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.320 it's been one group goes up, one goes down, one 0:10:08.400 --> 0:10:10.880 goes up, Special teams goes up, defense goes down. We 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.520 gotta stick together though, I know that, all right. This 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.200 one thing standing here right now. I know we gotta 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:17.800 stick together. Three and six got eight guaranteed opportunities. All right, 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:19.600 it's up to us what we do. But we gotta 0:10:19.640 --> 0:10:23.120 stick together, coaches, players, everybody and learn to play better together. 0:10:23.240 --> 0:10:25.079 All right. So whide' when you look at an FFC, 0:10:25.240 --> 0:10:26.800 it is what it is. But we got to come 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.360 together and find a way. That's it. Yea. Of the 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:32.959 seven NFC playoff teams a year ago, including the Cardinals, 0:10:33.000 --> 0:10:34.880 only two have a winning record right now. I mean 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:37.600 it is upside down, there's no doubt about it. Yeah, 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:41.679 that being the case, what's the frustration level? What's the 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.319 confidence level? You think with this team that you can 0:10:44.440 --> 0:10:47.040 turn it around and maybe go on a run. So 0:10:47.320 --> 0:10:49.959 now you know, the frustration level is obviously what he 0:10:50.040 --> 0:10:52.040 had said, you know, complimentary football. It's like, you know, 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.520 offense gets on a role and then defense starts like, man, 0:10:54.559 --> 0:10:56.520 well we're just stopped from the whole entire game. And 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.320 then this happens, or you know, defense stop and then 0:10:59.480 --> 0:11:02.040 offense back and forth or special teams and neither one 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.160 of us. So it's like that's what he's talking about, 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.640 and that's where the frustration comes in. Like when they 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.040 need it most, we can't deliver, and then when we 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:11.120 need it most, you know, vice versa. And that's just 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:13.800 all he's talking about right there, and you know, and 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.920 that's what we just gotta fix. And I think if 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:20.360 we just stick together and just it's like minor things. 0:11:20.520 --> 0:11:24.520 We VJ was saying something about it today. He said it, 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:25.959 and I can't remember the word, but he was so 0:11:26.120 --> 0:11:28.360 spot on with what he said. And it's literally being 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.400 off of mark by you know, one to two yards. 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:32.000 It happens to me, It's happened to me a couple 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:34.719 of times to see in the season, and it's just 0:11:34.840 --> 0:11:37.959 like in certain coverages or certain something certain fits and 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:39.959 it's just one or two guys being off by just 0:11:40.120 --> 0:11:41.760 one to two yards. It's literally that's small at the 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:45.360 game of inches, and then that's what happens. Zavin. You're 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.000 playing almost one hundred percent of the snaps at this 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:52.959 point in the season. What's this doing for your game? Man? Yeah, 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:54.800 So playing one hundred percent of the snaps has been 0:11:54.960 --> 0:11:57.079 you know, it's fun. You get into the fourth quarter, 0:11:57.320 --> 0:11:59.320 it's close ball game, about to go into two minute 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:02.000 and it's just like, you know, it's time to grind 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:04.280 this is what you just kind of think back of 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.520 the summer and you're like, this is what you train for, 0:12:06.840 --> 0:12:09.120 this is what you do, Like this is us. You know, 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:11.160 it's time to go. It's kind to go do our thing. 0:12:11.280 --> 0:12:13.480 It's time to go stop them, and you know, playing 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.640 all those snaps, it's really you know, let me know 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.720 a lot about the game, a lot about what offenses 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:21.440 are trying to do, where they're trying to get us. 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:24.720 When we put certain personnel into the game, where are 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:27.480 they're going to attack us. You know what's going to happen, 0:12:28.000 --> 0:12:31.079 and you know, learning that you know, and listen to 0:12:31.160 --> 0:12:33.760 what VJA calls and listen to how VJA like speaks 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:35.839 in the meeting and how he's doing these breakdowns. You 0:12:36.000 --> 0:12:41.319 understand what his thought process is behind calling plays. So 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.560 then it allows you to kind of have a jump 0:12:44.679 --> 0:12:48.360 on certain plays or certain situations. And it's really nice 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:51.240 in that aspect. What has been the bigger learning curve 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:54.360 for you going from small school high school ball to 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.920 college or going from college and a smaller you know, 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.000 it's tulsa super bowing middle linebacker and calling a defense 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:04.520 in the NFL. Going from college to the NFL, that 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:08.360 was It was a rough transition at first, but you know, 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:10.160 you learned so much in a little bit of time, 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:12.800 and it's really nice. I've learned a lot about the 0:13:12.840 --> 0:13:15.199 game and it's it's been fun. Well, you know what, Well, 0:13:15.200 --> 0:13:18.000 if we call it every game day, we're calling Cardinals games, 0:13:18.080 --> 0:13:21.559 and right now Zaban is behind only Buddha Baker and tackles. 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.959 He has sixty one. He has a couple of sacks, 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.000 he has the pick six we just heard, five tackles 0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.800 for lost, two quarterback hits. He has three passes, defense 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:33.360 force fumble. He's been all over that field. And guess what. 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:38.120 Their degree of difficulty continues because you have Sean mcvay's offense, 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:40.679 which has been an issue for the Cardinals at times 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:42.839 over the last few years. We'll talk about that and more. 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:45.280 Was Zaban Collins in the Big Red Rage presented by 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:53.480 Santan four in Gilbert Geno Smith and the pistol behind 0:13:53.559 --> 0:13:56.080 him as Kenneth Walker snapped the Smith, He's gonna throw 0:13:56.640 --> 0:14:00.760 and find the tough pip of the thirty s running 0:14:00.760 --> 0:14:02.920 it back fund to the funding the test tuck that 0:14:03.080 --> 0:14:08.360 off Saban Collins right awareness, that was a checkdown of 0:14:08.440 --> 0:14:12.719 the rights and Saban Collins read it. He picked it 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:15.240 off and then he returned it to get the Cardinals 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:20.080 to lead thirteen to ten, saving with a wood what 0:14:20.360 --> 0:14:25.960 I found pick and then shows off that speed that 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:30.680 is a big man running taking it all the way 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.920 back for a pick six. Pavy about a passion wolf 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.760 on the call. It's a big red rage presented by 0:14:36.800 --> 0:14:39.840 satan Ford and Gilbert we are satan Ford was Savan 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:43.240 Collins himself. By the way, the Cardinals defense leads the 0:14:43.400 --> 0:14:47.080 NFL in return touchdowns. That's now five, four pick sixes 0:14:47.200 --> 0:14:50.240 and a fumble return. Obviously the big one in overtime 0:14:50.360 --> 0:14:53.560 at Vegas to be the Raiders by Byron Murphy. So 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.680 the defense has been opportunistic, there's no doubt about it. 0:14:57.200 --> 0:15:00.440 How about the process of calling the defense, Zaban? And 0:15:00.600 --> 0:15:03.680 when I say calling it, sometimes I'm talking about just 0:15:03.920 --> 0:15:06.960 the actual technical aspect of it, because how many times 0:15:07.000 --> 0:15:08.960 do we see on the sideline the equipment guys are 0:15:09.000 --> 0:15:11.600 like bumbling around with a helmet, your helmet, trying to 0:15:11.680 --> 0:15:14.320 fix something in the helmet the transmission because it's not 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.880 full proof, isn't. No, it's not. It's not like how 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:19.240 we're talking now where everything's clear, and everyone needs to 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:22.480 hear everyone. It's everyone can whisper. You got to realize 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:25.760 when Vj's he's in a microphone that's picks up everything 0:15:26.120 --> 0:15:28.880 from all the fans, cheering, yelling, all the extra chatter. 0:15:29.920 --> 0:15:32.400 So it gets pretty hectic, and you know, in a 0:15:32.480 --> 0:15:35.760 breakdown and certain things like that situations third and short 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.400 third and long third, medium, you know, two minute, you 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.240 gotta know what he wants to call. If the mic 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.600 goes out on the field, there's no time to stop. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.000 You gotta know what he wants to call. You gotta 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.080 know what he's thinking in a general aspect. You know, 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:50.840 he may want to do something off the books that 0:15:50.880 --> 0:15:53.720 he thinks is right, but from like a guideline, like, hey, 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.680 this is what was on the script for this week. 0:15:55.960 --> 0:15:58.480 I gotta know what calls are within that little you know, 0:15:58.680 --> 0:16:01.920 section of what it is. And that's what happens whenever 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:04.440 the mic goes out and what has to you know, 0:16:04.560 --> 0:16:09.040 be said. Also it's you know, sometimes like it'll cut 0:16:09.080 --> 0:16:13.120 off and the the things that he's trying to communicate 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.960 to me doesn't get transcribed all the way doesn't get 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:18.960 all the way through, and you got to just pick 0:16:19.080 --> 0:16:21.480 up where he left off off of you know, a 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.120 certain whole list of words for the you know, for 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:26.880 the call, and you got to pick up and know. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:30.640 And it can change from personnel, you know, especially in 0:16:30.720 --> 0:16:34.200 the bigger person I was like thirteen and then you know, twelve, 0:16:34.360 --> 0:16:37.640 It'll change. So it's really it's really different, and you 0:16:37.720 --> 0:16:41.160 gotta know situational situationally, you gotta gotta be aware out 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.160 there for sure, not kind of, you have to be aware. 0:16:43.520 --> 0:16:45.760 So it's stuff like that where you kind of get 0:16:45.800 --> 0:16:47.760 and that doesn't happen all the time, but when it 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.560 does happen, it's like a you know, you get thrown 0:16:50.560 --> 0:16:53.160 a bone. It's like whoa, yeah, it's out of nowhere. 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:57.120 Do you feel like you are getting better week after 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.800 week after week? Do you feel like you're getting better? 0:17:00.760 --> 0:17:02.960 For sure? Yeah? I think overall yeah, But just like 0:17:03.040 --> 0:17:04.960 anything else, there's been ups and downs, ups and downs, 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.920 ups and downs. But from you know, the beginning to now, 0:17:08.240 --> 0:17:11.440 I think there's been definitely a trend of increase for sure. 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.119 And that's just something that I try and take day 0:17:14.160 --> 0:17:16.640 by day, just being more trying to be more professional, 0:17:16.760 --> 0:17:19.520 trying to talk to guys, understand talk with Kyler see 0:17:19.560 --> 0:17:21.720 what he sees. Talking with Colt, see what he sees. 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:24.080 You know, what do they do on this you know 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.200 body language that talks a lot. Learning those small little 0:17:27.240 --> 0:17:29.120 details there's probably helped me a lot in my game 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:33.040 throughout these you know, ten weeks. Well, that same question essentially, 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:35.320 it was put to your defensive coordinator, Advanced Joseph, and 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:37.480 he was just talking about time on the job and 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:41.560 how it's helped your growth. Xavan's always been a very intentional, 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:43.640 you know player. I mean, he wants to be good. 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.200 It took some time obviously, you know, to be a 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:48.080 mic backer in this league and call this defense with 0:17:49.000 --> 0:17:51.240 you know, with the volume that we have on game day. 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.080 It's uh, it's tough, you know, but he's a smart guy. 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:57.160 He wants to be good. And I'm not sure what click, 0:17:57.280 --> 0:17:58.960 but I think it's just time, you know, time on 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:00.399 a job, you know, I mean, you can need it. 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.200 Young guys don't get time to grotis days. You know, 0:18:03.800 --> 0:18:05.359 you want him to walk in and be you know, 0:18:05.440 --> 0:18:08.159 five year pros, but it doesn't work that way. Jayalen 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:10.680 Thompson about two months ago told us all the extra 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.080 time you have been putting in meeting with him in Buddha. 0:18:13.600 --> 0:18:16.199 Now you're gonna be without Buddha and he's been an 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.200 absolute stalwart and an all pro for this defense. We 0:18:19.280 --> 0:18:22.200 heard Bill Davis on Hard Knocks talk about it, just 0:18:22.400 --> 0:18:24.880 challenge his own room, just say, you know what, if 0:18:24.920 --> 0:18:27.440 everybody could play as hard as Buddha, where would this 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.840 defense be? So where is it going to be without 0:18:29.920 --> 0:18:33.320 Buddha against this Rams offense? You think, what's the challenge? Yeah, 0:18:33.560 --> 0:18:35.200 the thing is is like Buddha's still going to be 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.280 on a sideline yelling at us no matter what, get 0:18:37.320 --> 0:18:39.360 to the ball. So that's that aspect will be there. 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:42.320 And you know Buddha's obviously you see him running the 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.080 ball full speed and it's like it's infectious. You just 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:47.800 try and do the same thing, and you know, manipulate 0:18:48.080 --> 0:18:50.120 your way of doing it every single time. Just run, 0:18:50.200 --> 0:18:51.359 get to the ball, Get to the ball, Get to 0:18:51.400 --> 0:18:53.840 the ball. And you know, with our defense, I think 0:18:53.960 --> 0:18:55.720 you know what we've put on film and what we've 0:18:55.800 --> 0:18:58.080 done throughout the year of having a healthy defense, everyone 0:18:58.160 --> 0:19:00.440 running to the ball, no play is done, pushing the 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:02.760 pile the other way, I think will be fine. You know, 0:19:02.880 --> 0:19:05.000 obviously we'd love to have booted there. He's one of 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.320 the best players in the NFL obviously, you know what 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:09.920 I've seen, you know what I mean, he's crazy, Yeah, 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:14.240 but um, you know I think he um, he trusts 0:19:14.280 --> 0:19:16.760 in us. You know we can do it when he's 0:19:16.880 --> 0:19:19.359 you know, not available, and we have to believe in 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:21.680 ourselves we can too. He's a big part of this defense, 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:23.159 and you know, we just got to go out there and, 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.120 like you said, just try and match his energy whether 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:28.800 you know he's there or not. Zavan. You got the 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:33.119