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Speaker 1: Of it, but are you're known for the heavy foot?

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Speaker 1: that shadow smoky mirror effect on you know a lot

423
00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,119
Speaker 1: of their plays. And I think they live in that

424
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,280
Speaker 1: out of twelve personnel. You know, they have higbiez are

425
00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:35,760
Speaker 1: tied in and then you know the rest of their

426
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:37,879
Speaker 1: eleven personnel group. And I think it's worked for him

427
00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:39,960
Speaker 1: and they've done that in the past too, and they've

428
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,440
Speaker 1: they're one of the teams that have, you know, for

429
00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 1: the majority compared to other teams. They live in a

430
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:47,080
Speaker 1: lot eleven persons. That does that bring up any difficulties

431
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,000
Speaker 1: for you, Because they've got a guy Ben Scronic by

432
00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,160
Speaker 1: way of example, who is a wide receiver. He can

433
00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: run all the wide receiver Roulson. You know he is

434
00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,680
Speaker 1: a wide receiver at two hundred twenty four pounds. Zavin,

435
00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 1: they put him as you know, in the I format. Yeah,

436
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,640
Speaker 1: they put him in three point stance and they'll run

437
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,439
Speaker 1: ice so yeah, they'll run right lead, right right at

438
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,040
Speaker 1: your face and they do that. And the thing is

439
00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 1: they have other players on it where you think he's

440
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,160
Speaker 1: about the blocking and you're un right passion. He's running

441
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: down the field right, and that's all it is. And

442
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,199
Speaker 1: that's smoky mirror eye candy. You think he's doing one

443
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: thing and it's not. You know, that's what it is.

444
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,680
Speaker 1: And it works out for them. You gotta think, you know,

445
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 1: if you make someone think out on the football field

446
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: too much, it slows them down. And that's exactly what

447
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 1: they've been doing. And with John Wolford, if he's in

448
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,680
Speaker 1: there from Matthew Stafford, here comes the quarterback run game

449
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,520
Speaker 1: as well. So it's gonna be another interesting wrinkle. Perhaps

450
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:41,440
Speaker 1: we'll see how that trend. Zaven Collins are guests in

451
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage. So well, if anytime you're in

452
00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: the locker room, if you go over to Zaven's vicinity,

453
00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,680
Speaker 1: there usually Tanner Vallejo's right next to him, and you

454
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,720
Speaker 1: can hear the classic rock. Okay, do you know that's Zaven? Yeah.

455
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,840
Speaker 1: So what you've been listening to recently, We've heard skinnered

456
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 1: over there. We've even heard Johnny Cash at times. What

457
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: even listening to recently? Johnny Cash, Jimi Hendrix, j R. Afferdy,

458
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you name it, will play it, any of

459
00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: those old schools, classic rock, mellowed out. It's it's fun.

460
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: That's that's a good side. Junkyard told me the other day.

461
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,440
Speaker 1: Junkyard Dog, he told me the other day. He's like, Zavian,

462
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: you got some good music. You're the first person that's

463
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,840
Speaker 1: ever told me that. Marcus Gold, I was just gonna

464
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 1: ask you that. I was gonna say, I'm flying with

465
00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: your teammates. Man. Yeah, it's not on the loudspeaker. I

466
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: have to just play it on my phone. That's the

467
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 1: only privilege that I have is my own personal phone,

468
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,959
Speaker 1: no speaker. I don't get to connect to any speaker.

469
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: But it's just enough for me. A couple guys around me,

470
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,600
Speaker 1: they like it. They dig it um. But yeah, that's

471
00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 1: that's it. So you're you're more of a rock and

472
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,600
Speaker 1: roll guy than a country music guy. Because they took

473
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,399
Speaker 1: you out shopping for boots in Nashville. I'm like, well,

474
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 1: I'll wait a minute. Are they profiling you because you're

475
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma? What's going on? Yeah? Not just from Oklahoma,

476
00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: smalltown Oklahoma. But you know, I do love my fair

477
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,360
Speaker 1: shared country. I will play that in the locker room,

478
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 1: but you know, it's usually not as us gets me

479
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 1: in the mood for football, like classic rock. Does you know,

480
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 1: do you get a good pair of boot by the

481
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 1: way when you're shopping? Yeah, we got some nice boots there.

482
00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: Um it was fun. Yeah, they all the all the

483
00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: people were that wear boots on a team. They're jealous.

484
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 1: They're like, why didn't we get to go out? I

485
00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I don't know. You don't wear boots

486
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 1: now Cold does. Every summer. Wolf wears boots up and

487
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,199
Speaker 1: rush for New York. But he's kind of a fake cowboy.

488
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: He thinks he's like, you know, like Kevin Costner from Yellowstone.

489
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 1: He's up there wearing a cowboy hat. Yeah, I admit it, man,

490
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: I do grab the cowboy had from time to time

491
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: when I'm out there rush for New York. Population eleven

492
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: hundred have to you have to when you out there. Yeah, hey, um,

493
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 1: do you feel like this game is a must win?

494
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:37,719
Speaker 1: Coming up? By the way, every game's a must win.

495
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: It's crazy when you think about it in the aspect

496
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 1: of think of just last year, um, and not comparing

497
00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: the past to the present. But you learn from the past.

498
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,040
Speaker 1: If you go from a team eight, no, last year

499
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 1: seven and ten and two, right, yea, and you look

500
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: at every If you think of every game as a

501
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: must win, it may a change thing going into like

502
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:03,399
Speaker 1: that divisional buy and stuff like that, and also the

503
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: playoff game, you know what I mean. It gets you know,

504
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,919
Speaker 1: it's crazy. We had a little losing streak there at

505
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 1: the end, you know, and we had a great start

506
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: to the season. So if you treat every game just

507
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: says it must win and just focus on this game.

508
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: Obviously this year is important. We've lost six games or

509
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, three and six, Yeah, three

510
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: and six. So it's like you just look at an

511
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,480
Speaker 1: aspect of Okay, we're at where're at. We can't change

512
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: the past. Time to learn from it. Treat this game

513
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 1: like you said one in Oh, you gotta win this

514
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,120
Speaker 1: game no matter what, and just move on. Go from there,

515
00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 1: prepare the same, do everything, learn from your sneak and

516
00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: then change like as far as prepare, I mean like

517
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: getting ready for practice stuff like that, and then changing

518
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 1: the preparation as in, where are we getting beat at?

519
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: What are we doing wrong that? Yeah? For example, third

520
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: down and red zone the last couple of games, right

521
00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: Van shows have sighted bolt today? Yes? Is there a pattern? There?

522
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 1: Is there a constant? What do you do about those

523
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: two areas right now? Yeah? So and you got to

524
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: go and work on those you know what I mean,

525
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: change like what we were doing wrong? Where was a

526
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: communication breakdown? What is going on with this technique breakdown?

527
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:12,080
Speaker 1: So that's kind of what has to be fixed in

528
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 1: the preparation when it comes to practice, and that is uh,

529
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, what you work on from week to week

530
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:23,400
Speaker 1: and learning what you've done wrong. So but yeah, at

531
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: this point of the season, what is more difficult for you?

532
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 1: Pass carverage or run support? That's that's good. Pass coverage

533
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: is really not that hard for me because usually I'm

534
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,879
Speaker 1: in a you know, not too hard of a pass position.

535
00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: They don't have me out there on Cooper Cup. They

536
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: don't have me out there with DK Metcalf. You know,

537
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,959
Speaker 1: if we are. I'm looking at the sideline tapping the helmet. Hey,

538
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: you're going to try to I'll be yelling at get

539
00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: over the top of me. Let's bracket this man. You

540
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:51,720
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um. Yeah, But you know they're

541
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 1: always making up some some tough run schemes for us. Um.

542
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 1: I think, especially because we've done early on we're good

543
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: with the run, um and then and you know they've

544
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,280
Speaker 1: kind of schemed us up and dublin linement up to

545
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: you always have a linement on me. So the run

546
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: is probably considering like it's a passing the league now

547
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,919
Speaker 1: if you think about it. Besides a few teams like Baltimore.

548
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: You know, Eagles like to run the ball too. They're

549
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: kind of the RPO living in the world. But going

550
00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 1: up against this offense, you know, you're thinking more pass

551
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: out of a living personnel and stuff like that. It's

552
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 1: a wrap it up here with saving Collins. You won't

553
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 1: say it, but I will the unnecessary roughness call. I mean,

554
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: that was a lot of I mean, come on, what

555
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 1: was up with that week? So? How hard is it

556
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: to play defense in the league? Just simply put real quick,

557
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,960
Speaker 1: It's difficult, isn't it. Yeah? It's very difficult. It's something

558
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: that you have to be cautious. It's like, how am

559
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 1: I supposed to be cautious and the guy has the

560
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. You know, you don't mean anything

561
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: negative on anyone whenever you're going to hit someone, but

562
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, it's like you don't want to

563
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 1: go for any type of you know, fatal stuff like

564
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: that where you know, head to head, you're out, you know,

565
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,719
Speaker 1: stuff like that. You just want to make a clean hit.

566
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,080
Speaker 1: And nowadays like that was a clean hit, Shoal with

567
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: the shoulder and it's you know, unnecessary roughness. And I

568
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: was like, I didn't know I could get unnecessary reference

569
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,719
Speaker 1: with the do with the ball. So yeah, us either, Hey,

570
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: we enjoyed it. Thank you, Zavan. Zavan grows strong, big guy.

571
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,879
Speaker 1: There you go. Zaven Collins our special guest on the

572
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: Big Red Rage. We continue right after this. Do you

573
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: buy Santan Pord and Gilbert We are Santan por first

574
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 1: down of the Seattle fifteen play actiony boots to the right.

575
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: The boot, that's the boot. The boot. Oh my god,

576
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: the boot just ignored any type of boot play. You

577
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,239
Speaker 1: can't do it in that situation was great called by

578
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: the Cityhawks my signing for me, that was being pretty

579
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: wild and you know, being in a nut job on

580
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: game day. But you know it's an emotional game. You know,

581
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 1: I'm not afraid of sami emotional game. I want to win.

582
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,920
Speaker 1: You know that weekly investment is heavy, you know, so

583
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: if they score one point, man, my soul just leaves

584
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 1: my every time you score. So I might embarrass to

585
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,719
Speaker 1: say I'm emotional game day, I'm not. I mean, it's

586
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: this plan. You heard the real time reaction and then

587
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: you heard Advanced Joseph yesterday at his weekly press conference

588
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 1: talking about the Noah Fan fifty one yard catch and

589
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: run on the boot. You heard Wolf's instant analysis from

590
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: the radio booth. All angles covered courtesy of your Arizona

591
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: Cardinals Radio network here on the Big Red Rage presented

592
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 1: by Santan Ford and Gilbert Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley Annie

593
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 1: NFL Films in HBO with the debut episode of Hard

594
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: Knocks in season featuring the Arizona Cardinals, where you could

595
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: see and hear the anguish on the face and voice

596
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: of Advanced Joseph when that play unfolded, and it really

597
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: did seal the game for all intents and purposes, didn't it? Wolf?

598
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: Now you're right about that, Paully once again. And it

599
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 1: just emphasizes the ability to attack the line of scrimmage

600
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: and then use play action and the power of it.

601
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: It's not a brilliant game. It's better round forever, of course,

602
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: but the difficulty of it is it benefits from having

603
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: human beings playing defense inside that box. When you're playing,

604
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: when you're a human being and you're playing defense inside

605
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 1: the box, Man, Now all of a sudden, you're gonna

606
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: make mistakes and it's predicated on is it a run

607
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: or is it a play action pass? That bootleg was

608
00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,600
Speaker 1: executed to perfection and it worked. Yeah. It's amazing how

609
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: many different Cardinals players and coaches were miked up during

610
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 1: that debut edition of Hard Knocks in season Wolf, I

611
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: know you guys talked about it this week on air.

612
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,479
Speaker 1: Give me some of your big your top takeaways. Can

613
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: I just say this, Polly. First of all, you know

614
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: me as a former player, I'm offended by cameras and

615
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,600
Speaker 1: microphones being inside the locker room twenty two Wolf, everything's

616
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,520
Speaker 1: done for video, Polly, I'm just telling you right now,

617
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: I am. I want to be able to walk around

618
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: and be me and not worry about everything I'm gonna say,

619
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: or not worried about if if people are thinking I'm

620
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: saying it because there are cameras and microphones around it.

621
00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: That's just me having said that. Can I tell you

622
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: right now that I so enjoyed this last time. You

623
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: watched every second of it? I watched every second of it, Paul. Yea,

624
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: I've never seen Hard Knocks. I've only read about it.

625
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: I've seen clips of it from time to time. Paul. No,

626
00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 1: I've never sat down and watched a Hard Knocks episode. Okay.

627
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: I saw back in training camp when they would cut

628
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: guys and stuff, and that made me sick to my stomach.

629
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Speaker 1: How in the world could you possibly be in there

630
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: while this guy's dream is being ruined? Okay, that's just me. Okay,

631
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Speaker 1: But again, I watched it, Paul, and first of all,

632
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 1: the appreciation for how well it's done. It's like art

633
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, Paul. The way that they're putting

634
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: this stuff together, Yeah, I was. I was really really

635
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: impressed and entertained. I have to admit. So there's a

636
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: crew I understand of about eighty people staffing this from

637
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 1: NFL Films, just to turn this around on a weekly basis.

638
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: I had a chance there was a debut and a

639
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: local theater, and I a chance to talk with some

640
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: of the directors. There's four of them. I interviewed two

641
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: of them. I asked them what percentage of the film

642
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: that shot is actually used it makes the final edit.

643
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: They said less than ten percent. I honestly thought it'd

644
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 1: be more like one or two percent, because they're shooting

645
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: everything everywhere, virtually at all times. It is staggering the

646
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: amount of resources that goes into this production. But you're right,

647
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: it is so well done. You think you know the team.

648
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 1: You think you know the team, and then you watch

649
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: that episode and you realize, Okay, even being on the sideline,

650
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: I can see a lot of stuff, but I can

651
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: hear it. So we actually hear what Kyler and die

652
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: Hoop had to say to each other. It wasn't nearly

653
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: as flagrant as perhaps it might have looked, and I

654
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: saw it in real time, right in front of me.

655
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: But you know, it was a little more tame than

656
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,480
Speaker 1: I anticipated when I actually heard their exchange. Yeah, you know,

657
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I just actually learned some things not only about the

658
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: team also, but about players individually and just being inside Bay.

659
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: I talk about it all the time. Man, what I

660
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: love to just go sit in one of the position

661
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: rooms in the corner and just not say a word.

662
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: Let me just sit there and listen to a coach

663
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: and guess what, man Dara was what Billy Davis had

664
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: to say about Buddha Baker in particular. I know we're

665
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: going to get to that, but what he had to say, Polly,

666
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: that blew my mind. That just filled me with love

667
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: and appreciation for Buddha Baker and the impact he has

668
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: on all his teammates. No further Ado, We're going to

669
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 1: take you inside that position room. This is the inside

670
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 1: linebackers room. The position coach is Bill Davis. And here's

671
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 1: what they caught on camera. Man, I want to challenge

672
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: you guys, somebody play harder than Buddha. Get a game.

673
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: Watch when the something comes from here trying to play harder?

674
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: What kind of defense what we had should be bolder? Again,

675
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 1: hushle bas. I ran into Bill Davis earlier today and

676
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: I asked him about that, and he said, first off,

677
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: it's completely genuine. I have no idea when the cameras

678
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: are on, he said. He sometimes we're all terrified what

679
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,040
Speaker 1: are they gonna capture? What are they gonna air? But

680
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: he said, in my thirty years plus of coaching in

681
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: the NFL, I've never ever seen someone just pop off

682
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: the film like Buddha Baker. That was his reaction. So

683
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: that's why he holds him up as the standard to

684
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: try and aspire to. If you're anybody else on the field,

685
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: can you bring it like Buddha? Yeah? You know into Paul,

686
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 1: the power that that has, you know, you hearing me

687
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,240
Speaker 1: talk about how a player can impact his teammates in

688
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 1: a very intangible kind of way, make them better than

689
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: they really are, just by his mere presence. That's Buddha.

690
00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: That that's what Buddha does. You watch Buddha Baker and

691
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden the challenge, And I love

692
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: the way Billy framed it up for his linebackers in

693
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 1: that room. Somebody, I challenge you, I challenge you, as

694
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: your coach. Somebody play harder than Buddhi. He didn't say, Paul,

695
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: somebody play better than Buddha. He said, somebody play harder

696
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: than Buddha. You know, I yep that because you can

697
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: control that. You control, Yes, you can't necessarily be better

698
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: than an all pro, but you can control how hard

699
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,879
Speaker 1: you go. Imagine what kind of defense we'd have if

700
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 1: guys played tried to play harder than Buddha Baker. And

701
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: that's that's the charge to every guy that is on

702
00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,319
Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball and every guy that's

703
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the ball. And honestly, maybe

704
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 1: the most captivating video in the entire fifty minute plus

705
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: episode was Buddha's postgame speech after the Eagles loss at home,

706
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 1: where he Darnier lost his mind in that locker room.

707
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: Just the anguish, the emotion, and how he's trying to

708
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: implore everyone to be better at their jobs to stop

709
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 1: the home losing streak, which, by the way, they did

710
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: in the next home game. But I was actually down

711
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: getting ready to do the postgame interviews Wolf and I'm

712
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: down sort of adjacent to the locker room, and I

713
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 1: could hear every word. I had no idea who it was.

714
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: I could hear the whole thing. Somebody just going crazy

715
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: in that locker room. So you see, and you literally

716
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: witnessed how Buddha wears it. He wears it emotionally every

717
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: single game, and that's the kind of plays. Why is

718
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: the team captain put it that well, you know, it

719
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: reminded me so much of old school. I mean, that

720
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: was Jim Haniffin right there. That was Jim Haniffin. Yeah,

721
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: the profanity of course, and Jim Haniffan going off and

722
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 1: how impassioned it was, how genuine it was, how real

723
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: it was, and then he kneeled down and through the

724
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: Lord's prog right now that contract. That was beautiful to

725
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: actually see that because it was so real at that

726
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: point in time. You know what else we learned was

727
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,120
Speaker 1: that if Kyler Murray hadn't tweaked his hamstring, maybe he

728
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 1: outraces Ryan Neil and there's no fumble at the end

729
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: of the first half that you know what, that DV

730
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 1: doesn't catch up to a healthy Kyler Murray. But he

731
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: had tweaked his hamstring just earlier on a seventeen yard

732
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: scramble and then all of a sudden the Seattle Seahawk

733
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: was able to keep up with him and knock that

734
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: ball loose. And none of us knew at the time

735
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: that he was dealing with a less than one hamstring.

736
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 1: So that was interesting to learn yeah, No, I'm with

737
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: you on that one. He's still got to cover the

738
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: ball balling. Oh yeah, you still still got to cover

739
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: up the ball. Kyler's got to get better at that.

740
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: That's happened twice now, he's got to get better at

741
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: talking the ball. That's a hard habit to break when

742
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,959
Speaker 1: you've gotten to this point and you really haven't had

743
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: to talk the ball. But you gotta train your mind. Man.

744
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: You gotta get better, and it starts by doing the

745
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: little things. It was entertaining to see the Cardinals practice

746
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 1: in the rain and all the whining and complaining about

747
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: the cool weather and the rain. That was That was hilarious.

748
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,919
Speaker 1: I visited the Cliff House we call it right, Oh yeah,

749
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury's place and his view of Camelback. He said

750
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: he never sees it because he leaves when it's dark

751
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: and he returns home when it's dark. So and then,

752
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: by the way, the day Pash Podcast was CBS Sports

753
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: Legend Jim Nance available now following on Twitter app Pashpod.

754
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: We continue with a big Red Rage presented by Santan

755
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: Ford in Gilbert approtation Cooper Cup on a jet sweet pass.

756
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: It totally fools the Cardinals ten five walk in touchdown

757
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: that totally fulled the Cardinals. He came in motion, took

758
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: it on a jet sweep to the far side. All

759
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: the Cardinals were running to the left of the formation,

760
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: Cooper was running to the other side, and he walks

761
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,720
Speaker 1: in basically from twenty yards out for the first touchdown

762
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: of the game. It's always something with Sean mcvagh in

763
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,760
Speaker 1: that scheme. He always has some sort of eye candy

764
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,760
Speaker 1: that's apt to throw the front seven and then boom,

765
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a running lane for a

766
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: Cooper Cup. There's always something they haven't seen before. Despite

767
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:00,720
Speaker 1: the fact that the Rams have scored more than twenty

768
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: points only one time this season, think about that. You

769
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: beat LA and guess what. Then you set up a

770
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: meaningful game in Mexico City against the forty nine ers,

771
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,279
Speaker 1: who've you've yet to play in the NFC West. It's

772
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert.

773
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 1: We are santan Ford, Paul kelvc Ron Wolfley and beat

774
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: LA the Rams and guess what? It could look a

775
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 1: lot different this time around? Could or not? Ron Wolfley?

776
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 1: If John Wolford goes against Colt McCoy then Game one

777
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: we just heard there will have basically no bearing on

778
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: this rematch. Yeah, Paula, you're right about that. It's going

779
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: to be interesting to see what happens, of course, the

780
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,960
Speaker 1: rest of this weekend coming up. So the health of

781
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: both teams certainly has been an issue in a problem

782
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 1: here this season, especially Paul when you look at the offenses,

783
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,840
Speaker 1: and in particular, I would say the offensive line, not

784
00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: the offensive line is we all know the Cardinals has

785
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: really been banged up, just an absolute mass. Rodney Hut

786
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,399
Speaker 1: and of course Justin Pugh is done for the year.

787
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: He's on IR now, Will Hernandez has been placed on IR.

788
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: You've got your tackles, Calvin Beachum of course, and DJ

789
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 1: Humphreys all banged up right now. Well guess what The

790
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: Rams offensive line is as just as much a mess

791
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: for the most part as the Cardinals offensive line. And

792
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: to me, Polly, it's so fascinating because you hear me

793
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 1: say this all the time. You need an offensive line

794
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: that is good enough to allow your talent to do

795
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 1: what they do. And right now the offensive lines are

796
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: both banged up for the Cardinals and the Rams, and

797
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: both offenses are struggling mightily. Look no QB, no chance,

798
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 1: but one B is no offensive line, no chance for

799
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 1: your weapons to operate. You're absolutely right. That is the

800
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: quickest downfall for any talented team if you can't block

801
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: it up front. That has been the case. Guess what

802
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,400
Speaker 1: Cardinals are gonna have to do with Aaron Donald. But

803
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 1: that Ram offensive line is the only offensive line to

804
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 1: suffer more injuries in the Cardinals this season. And that

805
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,120
Speaker 1: and more is what Vance Joseph had to talk about

806
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: this week than when he looks at that Rams game film.

807
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: It's the same offense, but like most teams who have injuries,

808
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: you know, it won't be the same, you know, and

809
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 1: Cups still win the best in the league to them.

810
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 1: The backs are all good, but the line has been

811
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: beat up, you know, in his obvious on tape. If

812
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: you can't block anybody, you should you can't run to

813
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: throw it, and that's been their problem. They'll get some

814
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: guys back this week, you know, so it should be

815
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: better for them, hopefully not, you know, but um, you know,

816
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: you're not playing with your best guys. That's what it

817
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 1: looks like. It's the NFL, you know, and your best

818
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,759
Speaker 1: players help you obviously win games, and when you're playing

819
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: with young guys and backups, it won't be as good.

820
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: That's just that's really simple, you know. That's where they

821
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: are the Rams. In this last game against the Bucks

822
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: and the loss at the very end sixteen thirteen, the

823
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,839
Speaker 1: offense went three and out eight times. Wow, it's they

824
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: had just over two hundred yards total offense, and Cooper

825
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: Cup accounted for one hundred and twenty seven of it

826
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,640
Speaker 1: because he had a sixty nine yard touchdown catching another

827
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: thirty four yard chunk reception. Otherwise they did a lot

828
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,359
Speaker 1: of nothing on offense. Yeah, Paully, think about this right now.

829
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford has been sacked twenty eight times, twenty times

830
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 1: this year, and all of last year, Pauli, he was

831
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 1: sacked thirty times. Okay, thirty times. Now think about it.

832
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: They still have nine games to go this year, twenty

833
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: eight sacks on the season right now, they are number

834
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven as a matter of fact in sacks per

835
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: attempt allowed. And you've got Matthew Stafford who in eight

836
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:41,360
Speaker 1: games has only thrown eight touchdown passes in eight games,

837
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: and he's thrown eight interceptions in eight games. Man I'll

838
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: tell you. It just goes to show you once again

839
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: the impact that an offensive line can truly have on

840
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:57,919
Speaker 1: an offense and in particular on your skill positions. Maybe

841
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: they need to go back and give Andrew Whitworth twenty

842
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: twenty one Team MVP award based on the aftermath of

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Speaker 1: losing their left tackle. Oh you were all over that, man,

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Speaker 1: You were talking about that very thing right there. Well,

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Speaker 1: they were a disaster before what work they really were.

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Speaker 1: I know they made a bunch of other moves obviously,

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Speaker 1: but that was the key. Um. What's interesting is this

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Speaker 1: quote is this is one of the head coaches, and

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Speaker 1: I quote changes have to be made, Adjustments have to

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Speaker 1: be made. We can't continue to go on like this.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big part of this. I have to do better.

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Speaker 1: We have to look inward figured out what are some

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Speaker 1: of the solutions and changes and adjustments and different things

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Speaker 1: we have to be able to do to get different results.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't that easily be either head coach at this point?

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Speaker 1: Yes it could because it is Sean McVay. Just it's

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Speaker 1: Sean McVay. But but this similar spots, aren't they? Yeah, Paul,

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Speaker 1: I mean it is. You've got to look at everything

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Speaker 1: at this point in time. It's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why I you know me, I'm hopeful that this offense

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Speaker 1: will continue to evolve, that they'll do some things that

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Speaker 1: will evolve this offense. And I think Sean mcvayh is

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Speaker 1: faced with the same situation as well, and he's listen

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Speaker 1: to his credit, he's being very, very accountable number one,

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Speaker 1: and he's saying, we're gonna look at everything. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: look at all of this and do something because we

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Speaker 1: can't just continue to go down the same road. And look,

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Speaker 1: you heard the Cooper Cup touchdown run, but he had

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Speaker 1: only four catches for forty four yards, no touchdown receptions.

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Speaker 1: He was a non factor in the passing game. Cardinals

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Speaker 1: did an excellent job taking him away in Week three.

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Speaker 1: So if you're able to neutralize Cooper Cup, who's the

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Speaker 1: other guy that can beat you? Sort of like the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: If Jalen Ramsey is on DeAndre Hopkins, then what who's

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Speaker 1: the other guy who's gonna step up? Is it a

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Speaker 1: zach Ertz, Is it a Rondel Mordes? James Connor put

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Speaker 1: together another performance like he did in LA Week four

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Speaker 1: the regular season a year ago when the Cardinals ran

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Speaker 1: at forty times or two hundred and sixteen yards. I

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Speaker 1: mean he got up and he got up try and

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Speaker 1: block Aaron Donald. So what is your approach if your

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Speaker 1: Cliff kings baron offense? Yeah, exactly what is your approach?

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Speaker 1: I don't know exactly what that approach is going to be,

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Speaker 1: but you have to try to run the ball. If

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Speaker 1: you get into a situation where you throw the ball

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Speaker 1: fifty eight times like the Arizona Cardinals did last time

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Speaker 1: they played the Rams, fall that is playing right into

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Speaker 1: Raheem Morris, the defensive coordinator, right into his hands. If

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Speaker 1: that's the case, because Aaron Donald and that pass rush

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Speaker 1: will feast on Kyler Murray, There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: He has a six and a half sacks in the

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Speaker 1: last six games and about sixty quarterback pressures. And you're

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Speaker 1: going against He's gonna be going against the Cardinals offensive line.

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Speaker 1: This is gonna be their seventh different offensive line combination

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Speaker 1: already this season. So to your point, we come full circle,

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Speaker 1: which offensive line holds up better? And that might right

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Speaker 1: there give you the clear cut winner as to this matchup,

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Speaker 1: a must win game for both teams who have both,

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Speaker 1: by the way, lost four the last five think about

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Speaker 1: that rams are three five Cardinals at three and six.

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