1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Hey brain Stuff, Lauren Bogabam Here. If you've ever had 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: a meat lover's stuffed pressed pizza before bed and then 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,239 Speaker 1: spent your dreams being chased around by a saber toothed, 5 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,600 Speaker 1: willed beast wearing a top hat, you might have blamed 6 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: this bizarre and unsettling experience on your evening snack. This 7 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: tendency is so prevalent, yet any hard data is so 8 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: lacking that a study published in the journal Frontiers in 9 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: Psychology endeavored to crack this supposed a relationship between diet 10 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: and dreams. For the article that this episode is based 11 00:00:41,800 --> 00:00:44,160 Speaker 1: on how stuff works. That spoke by email with study 12 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: co author Dr Torrey Nielsen, psychiatry professor and director of 13 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,879 Speaker 1: the Dream and Nightmare Laboratory at the Center for Advanced 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: Research in Sleep Medicine at the University of Montreal. He said, 15 00:00:56,600 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: there's extremely little information available and all so some important 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: misinformation that keeps getting recycled. This research was motivated in 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: large part by the media itself. Questions about food and 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: dreams are among the most frequent questions we are asked. 19 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 1: These questions come up particularly around food center holidays, which 20 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: in our culture most holidays are the most commonly blamed 21 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: nightmare inducing culprits are cheese, spicy foods, and eating too 22 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: much right before bedtime? But is there any truth to 23 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: this folklore? Nielsen and his team surveyed nearly four hundred 24 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: participants on a range of topics such as sleep and 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: diet quality, and asked them to report whether they thought 26 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: food affected their dreams or not. Almost eighteen percent of 27 00:01:45,600 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: the participants indicated that they thought eating certain foods or 28 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: eating right before bed made a difference in the development 29 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: of disturbing dreams, with dairy products like milk, cheese, yogurt, 30 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: and ice cream, as well as pizza being the most 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: commonly listed by thirty of participants. Also blamed for disturbing dreams, 32 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: but to a lesser extent than dairy, were foods of 33 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: the spicy, starchy, or meat based varieties. Overall, sweets and 34 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: chocolates were the second most frequently mentioned category for dream 35 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: inducing foods after dairy, but they were considered most likely 36 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: to foster bizarre dreams not necessarily unpleasant but still strange, 37 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 1: like being able to fly, as opposed to more disturbing dreams. 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: Like being chased by a werewolf. The second part of 39 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: the study delved deeper into the subjects themselves. Nielsen explained, 40 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: when we broke down our sample into subjects who reported 41 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 1: disturbing dreams and those who reported vivid but not disturbing dreams, 42 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:51,480 Speaker 1: we found that there were two very different profiles. Disturbed 43 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: dreamers at higher pathological indicators like poorer sleep, binge eating, 44 00:02:56,440 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: or emotional eating, whereas the vivid dreamers had high your 45 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: wellness indicators like better sleep, healthier diet, and longer times 46 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 1: between eating, what we consider a proxy measure of fasting. 47 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: The fasting note struck a chord with the scientists because 48 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: various cultures have long documented the effect of the practice 49 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: on dreams. Nielsen said the finding for fasting in particular 50 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: was of interest because of very old literature documenting how 51 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: different peoples have used fasting to induce the recall of 52 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: spiritual and life guiding dreams called vivid dreams. In our study, 53 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: although it might be a stretch to recommend fasting if 54 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: you're looking for some type of nocturnal intervention, it's certainly 55 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 1: preferable to dream vividly in place of a nightmare starring 56 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: a deranged as murderer. There are any number of theories 57 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: on why certain foods affect our dreams, and certainly people 58 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: with certain health considerations like gastrosophageal reflux disease, have different 59 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: sensitivities than others. How stuff works also spoke by email 60 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: with Amy corn Reavis of Emery Sleep Solutions in Orlando, Florida. 61 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: She explained foods that affect gastrosophical reflex disease tend to 62 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: be either spicy or fatty foods. The closer you eat 63 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: them to bedtime, the more likely they are to affect you. 64 00:04:18,600 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: This is because they are heavier and produce more acids 65 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: to digest. This causes people with weak muscles at the 66 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: top of their stomach to have acid move into their esophagus. 67 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:33,360 Speaker 1: This effort may impact the time and length of valuable 68 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: R e M sleep, thereby affecting the type and duration 69 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: of dreams. She added that spikes or drops in blood 70 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: glucose levels, especially from desserts and other foods high and 71 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: simple sugars, may also affect R e M sleep, but 72 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 1: that there isn't solid research yet to back all of 73 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: this up. It seems that indeed the study of these 74 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: phenomena is just beginning. Nielsen said, we need to start 75 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: experimental studies that systematically vary what people eat and when, 76 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: and whether this induces any regular change in their dream content. 77 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: Today's episode is based on the article Pizza Nightmares. Can 78 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: your diet Determine Your Dreams? On how stuff works dot Com? 79 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: Written by Leo Hoyt. Brain Stuff is production by Heart 80 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: Radio in partnership with how stuff works dot Com and 81 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: is produced by Tyler Clang. Four more podcasts for my 82 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: heart Radio, visit the heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or 83 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your favorite shows