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Speaker 1: Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: We Got lots just say, we got lots to say?

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Speaker 3: What a bator here and we folk you say because

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Speaker 3: we got lost? Just say, yeah, we got lost. Just

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Speaker 3: say here's Bobby That.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to another episode of Lots to Say.

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Speaker 3: I am Bobby Bones. He is Matt Castle.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get right to our chat with country superstar

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Speaker 1: Matt Stell in studio.

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Speaker 3: Some quick notes.

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Speaker 1: We got two matts here, which is confusing, and you'll

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Speaker 1: hear us talk about some of these. He's got multiple

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Speaker 1: number one songs. Prayed for you. He grew up in Arkansas,

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Speaker 1: played basketball, played college basketball in high school. We played

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Speaker 1: against Lebron James twice, which he has a wild story about.

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Speaker 1: You hear us talk about that, and you can follow

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Speaker 1: him at Matt Stell Music. Awesome musician, great dude. Go

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Speaker 1: stream his stuff and ope you enjoy the.

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Speaker 3: Chat here he is.

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Speaker 1: It's me, Matt Castle and Matt Stella. Our guest and

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Speaker 1: studio is country music superstar Matt Stell, with hits such

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Speaker 1: as I Wonder if I could sing them?

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Speaker 3: Sing them? Well? You won't. I will, but I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Will you do it? I will, but I don't know him.

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Speaker 1: It's not even that I know. I will not do

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Speaker 1: them justice first of all. But when I try to

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Speaker 1: sing the songs back to back, I can't. My melodies

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Speaker 1: get all lost like it gets now. It's not true too,

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Speaker 1: Like I'm prayed for you never single day, never knew

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Speaker 1: your name, but that's the name I called.

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Speaker 3: I prayed for you.

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Speaker 1: Words probably not accurate, but the melody was kind of there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, what are the wording?

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Speaker 2: Every single day before I knew your name, I couldn't

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Speaker 2: see your face, but it prayed for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, your face, your face and then uh.

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Speaker 1: I've been down to London and South Beach, Mississippi and

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Speaker 1: all the.

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Speaker 3: Way Battle Beach, London, Mississippi. Yeah, everywhere, but on that's.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's like reasonably you've heard the song before.

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Speaker 3: I know, no, I just sang.

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Speaker 1: I'm not lyrics guy, I'm melody guy. So I'm knowing

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Speaker 1: know if any of the lyrics were right where any

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Speaker 1: of those what are the words?

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Speaker 3: That's pretty close. We're just some different cities. I've been

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Speaker 3: ware of those. Savannah along Beach I said, London to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said. It was like, I'm a little flattered

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Speaker 2: that you because I know you're not a words guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you're in the ballpark though, Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 3: All that matters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then how about that ain't Me No I'm

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Speaker 1: losing my melodies on that ain't Me no More.

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Speaker 3: That's where I get in trouble, dude, the melody that

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Speaker 3: ain't Me no More? And then breaking it, break breaking it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's because you didn't play this one enough. I don't

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Speaker 3: play anything, break it. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: But Matt has a bunch of songs anyway. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Matt is also an athlete, a former athlete, but still

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Speaker 1: an air quotes athlete. And so I'm gonna tell my

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Speaker 1: favorite recent story of my two favorite Mats is that

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Speaker 1: we all were at the Super Bowl. We weren't together,

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Speaker 1: but we were together, but we were together at different times,

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Speaker 1: and roughly it was like, Hey, if we have time,

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Speaker 1: we'll place, we'll play golf, and Stelle was like, I'll

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Speaker 1: set it up. And turns out Matt Castle and I

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Speaker 1: I got two Matts. This is crazy. Mind's blown right now?

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Speaker 1: Still okay, Stelley Castle. And so Castle's got all his

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Speaker 1: NFL buddies hanging out with Matt Stelle's got all his

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Speaker 1: music people he's hanging out with. I got food poisoning

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Speaker 1: I'm doing nothing.

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Speaker 3: Knows that sandwich shop, Oh that too, I got you. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And so they had set up just in case of

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Speaker 3: They're super nice folks.

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Speaker 3: Up if you're tall if Yeah, and also and they

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Speaker 2: They were immigrants, so they probably think white people look

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Speaker 1: You know, that's why I wear glasses. I'm so generic

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Speaker 3: It was one of the best complements of my life

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Speaker 3: page I left all out for a day. I saw it.

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Speaker 3: It was so funny. I was like, I mean I

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Speaker 3: But how'd you play? Like?

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Speaker 2: I shot the course, you shot eighty one. You shot

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Speaker 2: eighty one at Latour Golf Club down in uh uh

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Speaker 2: Lafouche Parish, Louisiana.

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Speaker 3: All day, every day, baby, all day every day. That

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Speaker 1: And I know, since I know Matt Stell pretty well,

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Speaker 1: you have to tell him, like we've never heard it

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Speaker 1: your Lebron James story.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, yeah, so he's a basketball player, college basketball player.

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Speaker 2: Oh I know that, Okay, yeah yeah. I used to

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Speaker 2: like like everybody, and then uh man, my senior year

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Speaker 3: Uh, just to play one tournament with.

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Speaker 2: Him, and we played against Lebron James and we honestly

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Speaker 2: Actually Lebron had like probably eighteen and ten or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But then we've we've matched up again against him in

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Speaker 2: the finals of that and he had like forty five

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Speaker 1: And you saw them and that created your ceiling. They

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and at the time with Lebron, you know,

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Speaker 2: with with Joe Johnson, Wavy Joe one of my favorite athletes,

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Speaker 2: one of the smoothest games that ever was. And he

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Speaker 2: just like is better at everything and bigger and faster

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Speaker 2: and it's just a level. And I was just like, Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: this is my dreams died today. But that's all right,

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Speaker 2: I'll play. I can play guitar.

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Speaker 1: Well, so Lebron goes crazy. You played Lebron, the story

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Speaker 3: And what's cool is you got to watch it, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you competed against Lebron. No, and you have it. You

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Speaker 3: have that your whole life. Yeah to watch?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and and but oh yeah right, so I have,

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Speaker 2: like you know, it taped all the games. So I

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Speaker 2: But like that first game that we played and like

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Speaker 2: just still probably the highlight of my you know, athletic career.

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Speaker 2: But then I got back and I don't know what happened,

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Speaker 2: but uh, you know, at the time, that was a

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Speaker 2: they were recording that movie so that it could be enjoyed.

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Speaker 1: And I think it got recorded over. His entire game

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Speaker 1: versus Lebron James got recorded over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's old school VHS, right, put it in the recorder.

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Speaker 4: You're trying to record, you don't know what's on it,

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Speaker 4: and all of a sudden you're like, wait, yeah, that's

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Speaker 2: And what's wild is like Mom, the other has probably

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Speaker 2: been about a year ago, but she found the VHS.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna, like I want to see it, but

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Speaker 2: like no one has a VCR, and.

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Speaker 3: I win, is that why you text me buy a VCR?

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Speaker 2: Yes, So because I have the tape and like I

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Speaker 2: can't remember. I remember it being taped over, but I

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Speaker 2: don't remember like verifying. I think maybe that was I

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Speaker 2: just want to see what, at least what movie Pelican brief.

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Speaker 3: You know, saying that a pretty good movie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well it's probably you know, the client or some something,

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Speaker 2: and uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Stell text me do you know as a VCR.

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Speaker 1: I went, yeah, nineteen ninety six exactly. I didn't even

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Speaker 2: And he's very right, because I went to, uh, best Buy,

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Speaker 2: I went to Walmart.

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Speaker 3: I went to.

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Speaker 2: The guy from best By sent me to this video shop,

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Speaker 2: and the guys I always sold out of our last one.

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Speaker 3: We knew next week.

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Speaker 2: And then I walked next door to a pawn shop

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Speaker 2: and they happened to have a DVD VCR combo they

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Speaker 2: doesn't work, so I have a I have a VCR

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Speaker 2: that doesn't work at the house.

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Speaker 3: So I'm just I'm on this. You may or may

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Speaker 3: not be playing Lebron James.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but it is the handwright my mom's handwriters, says

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Speaker 2: Matt burst lebron on the sleeve and on the tape,

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Speaker 2: and so you know.

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Speaker 4: You'd think that she would look at that and be like,

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Speaker 4: maybe we shouldn't record anything on that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe they got desperate. It was a really good show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe it was a season finale of Friends or something. No,

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Speaker 3: This interview specifically. Or were there other players? Really? Did

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Speaker 1: If I play Mignon every night. Eventually I get tired

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Speaker 4: It's just a wild experience because as a young kid,

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Speaker 4: But sometimes when those when schools like Tennessee at the time,

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Speaker 1: Let's do the greatest stat line in a high school

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Speaker 3: Matt Stell, you go first.

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Speaker 2: Can we just point out that the fact that I'm

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Speaker 3: To him, But I say with them, ever I do

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Speaker 3: Jack crap. So you're the middle.

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Speaker 1: You're the one that brings us together me Jack crap

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Speaker 3: You played college ball?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So greatest high school stat line?

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Speaker 2: I mean, I think I had forty something and several

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Speaker 1: But no, no, don't be almost I'm asking you for specific

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Speaker 2: I think I had like forty forty two and like,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I used to it. I used to pass a

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Speaker 3: You know, did you ever feel the zone? Yeah? I did.

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Speaker 2: I felt I felt in a game I lost. It

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Speaker 1: In greatest high school stat line that you can remember,

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Speaker 4: I mean, we played in the three A championship at

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Speaker 4: You don't get into the big dog tournament, but you're

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Speaker 3: It's not based on size. It wasn't on size, is

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Speaker 4: So like you say, take the top eight teams around

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Speaker 3: But I remember that game.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever feel the zone? Oh? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: And the crazy part about the zone and you probably

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Speaker 1: When you're like, I'm not athlete, I have to deal

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Speaker 4: But you're not thinking so much, right, it's just the

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Speaker 4: And there's games like that that just happen. There's no

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, I felt like Matt did just a

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Speaker 2: And I find that to be distracting. But if I can,

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Speaker 1: When it's pure and you're feeling at castle, do you

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Speaker 4: I was always a big guy of when we start

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about the opposite where everything should be going

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Speaker 1: I don't get out of it much less much like

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00:20:09,656 --> 00:20:12,936
Speaker 1: if I think about it, I do fall out of it.

436
00:20:12,975 --> 00:20:15,535
Speaker 1: On the other side, castle I ever have for no

437
00:20:15,616 --> 00:20:17,696
Speaker 1: reason at all, you just can't stop sucking.

438
00:20:17,936 --> 00:20:21,896
Speaker 3: One hundred percent? And can I just can we get

439
00:20:21,896 --> 00:20:22,455
Speaker 3: a rephrase?

440
00:20:23,455 --> 00:20:23,535
Speaker 4: No?

441
00:20:25,256 --> 00:20:26,856
Speaker 3: That would be pretty accurate phrases.

442
00:20:26,936 --> 00:20:29,735
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, I mean is there's a game we played

443
00:20:29,735 --> 00:20:31,616
Speaker 4: the Patriots. I was with the Vikings, and you know

444
00:20:31,735 --> 00:20:34,096
Speaker 4: I wanted obviously to have a great performance. We go

445
00:20:34,136 --> 00:20:36,456
Speaker 4: out there, go right down the field, had a good

446
00:20:36,455 --> 00:20:38,936
Speaker 4: start to the game. Next thing I know, it was

447
00:20:38,975 --> 00:20:41,616
Speaker 4: four interceptions later and they boat race us, and I

448
00:20:41,776 --> 00:20:42,736
Speaker 4: just go, what the hell?

449
00:20:42,896 --> 00:20:45,616
Speaker 3: But no elbow problem, nothing hel no elbow problem.

450
00:20:45,776 --> 00:20:48,656
Speaker 4: I felt confident about the game play and everything. And

451
00:20:49,016 --> 00:20:51,495
Speaker 4: it's just one of those days where I'd throw a pass,

452
00:20:51,776 --> 00:20:53,416
Speaker 4: one would get tipped at the line scrimmage and it

453
00:20:53,495 --> 00:20:56,495
Speaker 4: falls right to hear. You make a bad decision, revis

454
00:20:56,495 --> 00:20:58,976
Speaker 4: picks it off. Next one the guy's running in cut,

455
00:20:59,016 --> 00:21:01,056
Speaker 4: he fades back another intercept.

456
00:21:01,176 --> 00:21:02,575
Speaker 3: It was just one of those days.

457
00:21:02,656 --> 00:21:05,015
Speaker 4: And like you said, the more you think about it,

458
00:21:05,056 --> 00:21:07,656
Speaker 4: I think you harp on the bad and you're now

459
00:21:07,735 --> 00:21:09,776
Speaker 4: starting to play scared. The only way to come out

460
00:21:09,776 --> 00:21:12,495
Speaker 4: of those situations are just have it. I used to

461
00:21:12,495 --> 00:21:16,096
Speaker 4: call it the fit mentality, Like what else can happen today?

462
00:21:16,136 --> 00:21:17,856
Speaker 4: Like you got to go out there and keep singing it,

463
00:21:17,896 --> 00:21:19,815
Speaker 4: because the guys feel it in the huddle too. You

464
00:21:19,896 --> 00:21:23,216
Speaker 4: got to give up kind of that false bravado at times,

465
00:21:23,536 --> 00:21:25,815
Speaker 4: make them say, hey, Castle's not disturbed by it. We

466
00:21:25,856 --> 00:21:27,656
Speaker 4: got to keep rolling, even though I know in the

467
00:21:27,656 --> 00:21:29,576
Speaker 4: back of my mind I'm going I'm letting these guys down.

468
00:21:29,735 --> 00:21:31,535
Speaker 4: It's not a good day, but I've still got to

469
00:21:31,576 --> 00:21:33,455
Speaker 4: go out there try to get us back on course.

470
00:21:33,536 --> 00:21:35,016
Speaker 3: What about doing a show? Live show?

471
00:21:35,096 --> 00:21:36,456
Speaker 1: No reason for you to suck. You've had a bad

472
00:21:36,536 --> 00:21:38,336
Speaker 1: night where you're like, why why do I suck tonight?

473
00:21:40,136 --> 00:21:42,096
Speaker 3: I do find though that.

474
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Speaker 2: Typically not always, but typically my worst is better than

475
00:21:47,455 --> 00:21:49,696
Speaker 2: I think, and my best is not as good as

476
00:21:49,735 --> 00:21:54,096
Speaker 2: I think. And so there's always some solace in that

477
00:21:54,256 --> 00:21:58,136
Speaker 2: a little bit, you know, because I can and and honestly,

478
00:21:58,215 --> 00:22:00,336
Speaker 2: sometimes you know, like in a golf swing, you know,

479
00:22:00,336 --> 00:22:02,376
Speaker 2: they say, feel isn't real. That's why you you know,

480
00:22:03,215 --> 00:22:04,856
Speaker 2: that's why they tell you to do stuff that doesn't

481
00:22:04,856 --> 00:22:06,815
Speaker 2: sound like it would be right, because it's not.

482
00:22:06,936 --> 00:22:08,176
Speaker 3: What you're doing is what you're feeling.

483
00:22:08,536 --> 00:22:12,776
Speaker 2: And I find that that is also the case when

484
00:22:12,856 --> 00:22:16,416
Speaker 2: i'm you know, like on stage or something like that,

485
00:22:16,776 --> 00:22:18,775
Speaker 2: is I can't always trust how it felt because I

486
00:22:18,776 --> 00:22:19,696
Speaker 2: can listen to it back.

487
00:22:19,735 --> 00:22:21,096
Speaker 3: You know, we typically have a board mix.

488
00:22:21,096 --> 00:22:23,336
Speaker 2: I don't listen to him very much, but you know

489
00:22:23,416 --> 00:22:27,455
Speaker 2: we will or you know, but I take solace in

490
00:22:27,495 --> 00:22:30,216
Speaker 2: that fact sometimes when things aren't going well that it's like, well,

491
00:22:30,296 --> 00:22:33,575
Speaker 2: I put in all this work so that my you know,

492
00:22:34,215 --> 00:22:36,455
Speaker 2: I'm sort of in a in this range.

493
00:22:36,296 --> 00:22:38,416
Speaker 3: Right as I use hand gestures on a podcast.

494
00:22:38,455 --> 00:22:40,775
Speaker 2: But I mean, I'm I'm somewhere between a six and

495
00:22:40,816 --> 00:22:43,535
Speaker 2: a half and an eight and a half all the time,

496
00:22:43,696 --> 00:22:46,015
Speaker 2: you know, And so the worst isn't as bad as

497
00:22:46,016 --> 00:22:46,455
Speaker 2: it seems.

498
00:22:46,455 --> 00:22:48,055
Speaker 3: The best is it may be as good as it seems.

499
00:22:48,056 --> 00:22:51,575
Speaker 4: But yeah, are you a self critical guy like you

500
00:22:51,656 --> 00:22:53,656
Speaker 4: criticize yourself a little bit? Or would you say you're

501
00:22:53,696 --> 00:22:55,896
Speaker 4: more of a self confidence guy? Bad day as you

502
00:22:55,896 --> 00:22:56,735
Speaker 4: can put them behind you.

503
00:22:57,296 --> 00:23:00,056
Speaker 2: I feel like I'm fairly on it, like I don't

504
00:23:00,256 --> 00:23:02,815
Speaker 2: you know, my wife probably hears it more and she

505
00:23:02,856 --> 00:23:05,656
Speaker 2: would probably say I'm pretty negative on myself. But like,

506
00:23:05,776 --> 00:23:08,096
Speaker 2: I know, when I feel like I did a good

507
00:23:08,176 --> 00:23:13,656
Speaker 2: job now, it just doesn't happen that much, you know.

508
00:23:14,096 --> 00:23:15,616
Speaker 2: You know, I don't think I did a bad job

509
00:23:15,656 --> 00:23:17,815
Speaker 2: a lot like writing a song, playing a show, but

510
00:23:17,936 --> 00:23:20,735
Speaker 2: I know what a good job feels like, and I

511
00:23:21,376 --> 00:23:23,735
Speaker 2: just kind of chase I chase that, you know, I

512
00:23:23,816 --> 00:23:25,416
Speaker 2: kind of have to let that be my north star,

513
00:23:25,936 --> 00:23:29,775
Speaker 2: even though it's it's not an objective thing that that

514
00:23:29,936 --> 00:23:30,896
Speaker 2: is my best or whatever.

515
00:23:30,896 --> 00:23:31,656
Speaker 3: But I just kind of know.

516
00:23:31,735 --> 00:23:34,936
Speaker 2: But I'm very I'm very critical, and but I try

517
00:23:35,416 --> 00:23:37,255
Speaker 2: to your point, I try to go out of my

518
00:23:37,336 --> 00:23:39,536
Speaker 2: way to think something positive when something when I feel

519
00:23:39,536 --> 00:23:41,455
Speaker 2: like something good happens, I write a good song, if

520
00:23:41,495 --> 00:23:44,536
Speaker 2: I play a good job, you know whatever, I try

521
00:23:44,576 --> 00:23:44,856
Speaker 2: to in.

522
00:23:44,856 --> 00:23:49,616
Speaker 3: My mind give, you know, say something positive to myself.

523
00:23:49,616 --> 00:23:50,856
Speaker 3: So it's not always native what.

524
00:23:51,256 --> 00:23:53,455
Speaker 4: Do you That was the hardest thing for me is

525
00:23:53,495 --> 00:23:56,656
Speaker 4: I always felt when like you went out and kicked

526
00:23:56,696 --> 00:23:59,255
Speaker 4: ass during the game or something like that, I always

527
00:23:59,816 --> 00:24:01,735
Speaker 4: had that mentality of, well, that's my job, that's what

528
00:24:01,735 --> 00:24:04,495
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to do, rather than really acknowledging.

529
00:24:03,896 --> 00:24:06,616
Speaker 3: The fact that I can you know, I crushed today.

530
00:24:07,256 --> 00:24:09,815
Speaker 4: And so I was always one of those guys that

531
00:24:09,856 --> 00:24:12,176
Speaker 4: you'd nitpick at little stuff where can I get better?

532
00:24:12,296 --> 00:24:15,376
Speaker 4: Or when things don't go well, you're really self critical.

533
00:24:16,056 --> 00:24:19,696
Speaker 4: You're you're thinking, gosh, I could have played so much better,

534
00:24:19,776 --> 00:24:23,016
Speaker 4: and you harp on the things that you made mistakes

535
00:24:23,056 --> 00:24:25,815
Speaker 4: on or the bad throw rather than you could go

536
00:24:26,256 --> 00:24:28,735
Speaker 4: eighteen for twenty two in a game, have a bunch

537
00:24:28,735 --> 00:24:30,775
Speaker 4: of really good throws, but it's that one ball that

538
00:24:30,816 --> 00:24:33,256
Speaker 4: got interception, and that was the outcome of the game.

539
00:24:33,656 --> 00:24:36,096
Speaker 4: So I would say I'm more self critical than I

540
00:24:36,176 --> 00:24:40,136
Speaker 4: am like of always from a positive nature. And I

541
00:24:40,176 --> 00:24:42,816
Speaker 4: think it's the nature also of the business of every

542
00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:45,295
Speaker 4: time you play in a game, what do we do.

543
00:24:45,576 --> 00:24:47,096
Speaker 4: They don't go in there and praise you for the

544
00:24:47,136 --> 00:24:49,215
Speaker 4: good place. What they do is they go in and

545
00:24:49,336 --> 00:24:51,775
Speaker 4: look at your mistakes, correct them, put them up on

546
00:24:51,816 --> 00:24:53,455
Speaker 4: the big board in front of the team, in front

547
00:24:53,696 --> 00:24:57,176
Speaker 4: in your quarterback room, and you harp on the little

548
00:24:57,215 --> 00:25:00,535
Speaker 4: details and the little mistakes that really probably didn't make

549
00:25:00,576 --> 00:25:03,496
Speaker 4: the major difference in the play. And so I think

550
00:25:03,536 --> 00:25:07,696
Speaker 4: you just train yourself. Okay, well, I've you're searching for perfection,

551
00:25:07,816 --> 00:25:10,015
Speaker 4: which you're never going to achieve, but you try to

552
00:25:10,056 --> 00:25:12,696
Speaker 4: be the best that you can be and try to

553
00:25:12,735 --> 00:25:15,176
Speaker 4: create it every single time you go out in the field.

554
00:25:15,376 --> 00:25:18,656
Speaker 3: Did you have to learn how to be coached? Yes?

555
00:25:18,896 --> 00:25:21,296
Speaker 4: I was not always one of those guys that took

556
00:25:21,336 --> 00:25:27,015
Speaker 4: coaching well at times, especially if personality wise right, certain

557
00:25:27,016 --> 00:25:29,455
Speaker 4: personalities I got along with really well, and then there's

558
00:25:29,536 --> 00:25:32,696
Speaker 4: other ones that was just became more combative than anything else.

559
00:25:33,136 --> 00:25:34,975
Speaker 4: And what you have to learn is you have to

560
00:25:34,975 --> 00:25:37,376
Speaker 4: be adaptable. Right, everybody's going to do it a little

561
00:25:37,376 --> 00:25:39,495
Speaker 4: bit different. You got to find a way to not

562
00:25:39,616 --> 00:25:43,735
Speaker 4: only accept the coaching, but also learn how to communicate

563
00:25:43,776 --> 00:25:46,295
Speaker 4: best with that person. It might be allowed if you

564
00:25:46,296 --> 00:25:48,335
Speaker 4: have a thought, and this is one of those coaches

565
00:25:48,376 --> 00:25:50,855
Speaker 4: that hey, look, i'm this smart with a big circle

566
00:25:50,896 --> 00:25:53,096
Speaker 4: and you're this smart with the little dot in the middle.

567
00:25:53,455 --> 00:25:55,295
Speaker 4: That you had to try to make it their idea.

568
00:25:55,936 --> 00:25:57,656
Speaker 4: But if you try to make it their idea, they're

569
00:25:57,656 --> 00:26:01,455
Speaker 4: more receptive to implementing into a game plan. Whereas if

570
00:26:01,455 --> 00:26:02,815
Speaker 4: I just went and said, hey, I think we need

571
00:26:02,856 --> 00:26:04,735
Speaker 4: to put this play, this play, this play, they'd be like, no,

572
00:26:04,896 --> 00:26:07,815
Speaker 4: we're not doing that. We've got our foundation, we know

573
00:26:07,856 --> 00:26:08,575
Speaker 4: what we are going to do.

574
00:26:11,215 --> 00:26:14,136
Speaker 1: With different head coaches in different styles, And this is

575
00:26:14,136 --> 00:26:19,416
Speaker 1: the parallels between athletes and musicians are It's very similar

576
00:26:19,576 --> 00:26:21,295
Speaker 1: because now you have people telling you what songs are

577
00:26:21,296 --> 00:26:23,656
Speaker 1: good to what songs aren't, as you had coaches telling

578
00:26:23,696 --> 00:26:29,816
Speaker 1: you what play, what calls, what audibles are good, what aren't.

579
00:26:29,856 --> 00:26:33,416
Speaker 1: Why you should think this way? In that way, were

580
00:26:33,455 --> 00:26:35,576
Speaker 1: there people that you had to listen to that you

581
00:26:35,656 --> 00:26:38,055
Speaker 1: knew they did not know near as much as you,

582
00:26:38,096 --> 00:26:40,936
Speaker 1: But you had to play the game and act like, okay,

583
00:26:41,016 --> 00:26:44,215
Speaker 1: I'm listening, but really you weren't.

584
00:26:44,016 --> 00:26:44,815
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.

585
00:26:45,296 --> 00:26:49,256
Speaker 4: But you also have to be somebody that is going

586
00:26:49,296 --> 00:26:51,336
Speaker 4: to take the coaching regardless of whether or not you

587
00:26:51,416 --> 00:26:54,456
Speaker 4: agree with it, and somehow find a way to maneuver

588
00:26:54,495 --> 00:26:56,775
Speaker 4: through the minutia and all the stuff that they're saying

589
00:26:57,176 --> 00:26:58,896
Speaker 4: and get your point across, because at the end of

590
00:26:58,936 --> 00:27:02,096
Speaker 4: the day, especially for any you guys know as a

591
00:27:02,136 --> 00:27:05,176
Speaker 4: performer or a quarterback, in that you're the one out

592
00:27:05,176 --> 00:27:07,656
Speaker 4: there on the field performing, You're the one that's got

593
00:27:07,696 --> 00:27:10,376
Speaker 4: to make the calls. You also are the one that's

594
00:27:10,416 --> 00:27:11,736
Speaker 4: going to be judged at the end of the day.

595
00:27:11,936 --> 00:27:14,336
Speaker 4: The coaches are sitting in the background, they've put together

596
00:27:14,376 --> 00:27:16,575
Speaker 4: a game plan, but if you don't like a play

597
00:27:16,936 --> 00:27:19,776
Speaker 4: that somebody put in, I'm I will be very open

598
00:27:19,816 --> 00:27:22,576
Speaker 4: about Hey, coach, I'm not comfortable with this. I don't

599
00:27:22,616 --> 00:27:25,616
Speaker 4: know if I can make it go. And it's not

600
00:27:25,896 --> 00:27:28,456
Speaker 4: because I hate the fact that he installed it. It's

601
00:27:28,495 --> 00:27:33,216
Speaker 4: just like I'm more confident with something that we've practiced

602
00:27:33,296 --> 00:27:36,295
Speaker 4: during the week, we've repped, and now I can go

603
00:27:36,336 --> 00:27:38,015
Speaker 4: out there and execute at a high level. Call this

604
00:27:38,136 --> 00:27:41,815
Speaker 4: play twice, I don't care. But there's always that happy

605
00:27:41,896 --> 00:27:43,775
Speaker 4: medium of not pissing people off. But at the end

606
00:27:43,776 --> 00:27:45,416
Speaker 4: of the day, you're the guy that's got to go

607
00:27:45,455 --> 00:27:46,376
Speaker 4: out there and pull the trigger.

608
00:28:01,816 --> 00:28:04,016
Speaker 1: Are about songs with you like you ever saw here,

609
00:28:04,056 --> 00:28:06,696
Speaker 1: it's same you gotta get and executives like I don't

610
00:28:06,696 --> 00:28:08,136
Speaker 1: think this is a good song, right, I think this

611
00:28:08,176 --> 00:28:09,696
Speaker 1: is a good song, and you feel the opposite.

612
00:28:10,656 --> 00:28:14,216
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for sure, and I think I mean

613
00:28:15,936 --> 00:28:21,055
Speaker 2: it's my opinion that I don't like to judge or

614
00:28:21,096 --> 00:28:24,536
Speaker 2: be judged all that much on outcomes. I mean, that's

615
00:28:24,536 --> 00:28:29,456
Speaker 2: what people do, but it's really the process that I'm

616
00:28:29,495 --> 00:28:32,976
Speaker 2: more concerned with that's gonna lead to good outcomes. Right,

617
00:28:33,056 --> 00:28:38,456
Speaker 2: So what I mean by that is I want to

618
00:28:38,496 --> 00:28:43,736
Speaker 2: know that we're making decisions based on, you know, everyone

619
00:28:43,816 --> 00:28:46,575
Speaker 2: being incentivized the right way for one thing, like you know,

620
00:28:47,136 --> 00:28:50,176
Speaker 2: if everyone if everyone eats or doesn't, based on the

621
00:28:50,296 --> 00:28:52,216
Speaker 2: success of as, if everybody.

622
00:28:51,856 --> 00:28:53,936
Speaker 3: Has skin in the game. You know that it's my like.

623
00:28:54,216 --> 00:29:00,616
Speaker 2: Label management, publishing, even band whatever, If we're incentivized the

624
00:29:00,696 --> 00:29:02,536
Speaker 2: right way, if we have a system that does that,

625
00:29:02,736 --> 00:29:05,296
Speaker 2: which is just basically you know, for me, it's been

626
00:29:05,416 --> 00:29:07,616
Speaker 2: does the song do well or do not? Then at

627
00:29:07,696 --> 00:29:09,976
Speaker 2: least the decision makers in the room are not are

628
00:29:10,016 --> 00:29:12,256
Speaker 2: incentivized for that to work and not for them to

629
00:29:12,296 --> 00:29:16,936
Speaker 2: be right, let's say, because it's the different the real

630
00:29:17,056 --> 00:29:21,296
Speaker 2: key difference to me between sports and music pop music

631
00:29:21,336 --> 00:29:23,856
Speaker 2: like we make you know, like popular music, like whatever

632
00:29:23,896 --> 00:29:29,736
Speaker 2: the genre is, but is Sports is much more objective

633
00:29:30,016 --> 00:29:34,016
Speaker 2: at the end of sixty minutes, there is a final score.

634
00:29:34,296 --> 00:29:35,936
Speaker 3: You know, unless you go over an overtime whatever. But

635
00:29:35,976 --> 00:29:38,656
Speaker 3: you get my point.

636
00:29:39,056 --> 00:29:42,575
Speaker 2: Music is so much more You're targeting like kind of

637
00:29:42,616 --> 00:29:46,256
Speaker 2: a moving target that if you chase too much it

638
00:29:46,296 --> 00:29:47,976
Speaker 2: doesn't work out, and you're trying to get ahead of

639
00:29:48,016 --> 00:29:51,256
Speaker 2: it a little bit. It's almost like leading a skeet

640
00:29:51,256 --> 00:29:55,296
Speaker 2: when you're shooting a gun kind of. But it's the

641
00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:57,616
Speaker 2: process that in not so much the outcome. So if

642
00:29:57,656 --> 00:30:00,016
Speaker 2: we made a good decision with the process, you got

643
00:30:00,016 --> 00:30:02,136
Speaker 2: to believe that over time those outcomes are going to

644
00:30:02,176 --> 00:30:06,016
Speaker 2: be more than they would if you hit the lottery,

645
00:30:06,056 --> 00:30:07,696
Speaker 2: because that happens in our business.

646
00:30:07,376 --> 00:30:10,576
Speaker 1: A lot Fascinated with you, guys at Parallel and one more,

647
00:30:10,616 --> 00:30:14,896
Speaker 1: One more, One more Parallel, Matt, your song prayed for

648
00:30:14,936 --> 00:30:18,296
Speaker 1: you as a monster. It was a wedding song, it

649
00:30:18,336 --> 00:30:19,336
Speaker 1: was a number one song.

650
00:30:19,456 --> 00:30:20,056
Speaker 3: It's you've had.

651
00:30:20,096 --> 00:30:22,216
Speaker 1: You've put up multiple versions because it was so big,

652
00:30:22,336 --> 00:30:24,696
Speaker 1: like I don't know, like you'd like played one with.

653
00:30:24,536 --> 00:30:26,336
Speaker 3: This five drink? Is that a six you sing it?

654
00:30:27,056 --> 00:30:28,616
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it got so big it get

655
00:30:28,656 --> 00:30:30,136
Speaker 1: you put out all these different versions.

656
00:30:30,496 --> 00:30:33,696
Speaker 2: It's like oreos where they change the stuffing in it. Yeah, yeah,

657
00:30:33,736 --> 00:30:37,616
Speaker 2: and so concept, but concept everybody wants that from you.

658
00:30:37,656 --> 00:30:39,336
Speaker 2: And you've done a lot in your career, but everybody

659
00:30:39,376 --> 00:30:41,016
Speaker 2: wants that because that was your biggest thing. And so

660
00:30:41,056 --> 00:30:43,336
Speaker 2: it's always like play pray for you. And with Castle

661
00:30:45,336 --> 00:30:47,536
Speaker 2: you've done so much and play with different teams and

662
00:30:47,536 --> 00:30:51,016
Speaker 2: had successive places, but it's probably always like, hey, when

663
00:30:51,056 --> 00:30:55,616
Speaker 2: Brady got hurt. Yeah, I would assume that, as grateful

664
00:30:56,496 --> 00:30:59,575
Speaker 2: as both of you are for the opportunities that you

665
00:30:59,656 --> 00:31:02,136
Speaker 2: were given, that sometimes you're like, I gotta tell this

666
00:31:02,176 --> 00:31:05,176
Speaker 2: freaking story again. Any truth in that Castle?

667
00:31:06,736 --> 00:31:09,336
Speaker 3: You're saying that when people say that, do I get annoyed?

668
00:31:09,536 --> 00:31:11,616
Speaker 3: Not annoyed, because I think you understand.

669
00:31:11,896 --> 00:31:14,376
Speaker 2: Do you think is that one thing being such a

670
00:31:14,416 --> 00:31:17,456
Speaker 2: dominant part of the narrative of you outside looking in

671
00:31:17,696 --> 00:31:21,616
Speaker 2: you knowing that your life is much more complex and dynamic,

672
00:31:22,016 --> 00:31:23,376
Speaker 2: What is that like, is that what you're asking?

673
00:31:23,416 --> 00:31:25,376
Speaker 1: You know you're gonna get asked every single time, every

674
00:31:25,456 --> 00:31:26,856
Speaker 1: step in you know it.

675
00:31:27,096 --> 00:31:30,976
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm known as a Patriot more than anything else

676
00:31:31,016 --> 00:31:32,936
Speaker 4: that I did in my career. And I played fourteen years,

677
00:31:32,936 --> 00:31:36,496
Speaker 4: and it was probably based on the simple fact that

678
00:31:36,576 --> 00:31:39,296
Speaker 4: it was such a polarizing time because Tom Brady won

679
00:31:39,336 --> 00:31:40,936
Speaker 4: the MVP of the Year before we were in the

680
00:31:40,936 --> 00:31:43,456
Speaker 4: Super Bowl, first game out of the year, guy that

681
00:31:43,496 --> 00:31:46,575
Speaker 4: hadn't started since high school, and so everybody looked at

682
00:31:46,576 --> 00:31:50,216
Speaker 4: that season, particularly Patriot fans but fans alike, and said,

683
00:31:50,256 --> 00:31:52,896
Speaker 4: what is this slappy gonna do? And to go out

684
00:31:52,896 --> 00:31:54,976
Speaker 4: and win eleven games and go eleven and five, it

685
00:31:55,056 --> 00:31:58,256
Speaker 4: was a defining moment, not only for me in my

686
00:31:58,336 --> 00:32:00,376
Speaker 4: career but in my life. It set me up to

687
00:32:00,456 --> 00:32:03,456
Speaker 4: go on and achieve other things as well, and I

688
00:32:03,496 --> 00:32:06,416
Speaker 4: went to the Can't City. I went to the Pro

689
00:32:06,456 --> 00:32:09,016
Speaker 4: Bowl in twenty ten. Nobody even knows that, I don't think,

690
00:32:09,056 --> 00:32:11,095
Speaker 4: but that's fine with me because I know what I

691
00:32:11,176 --> 00:32:14,256
Speaker 4: was able to do, especially coming with the story that

692
00:32:14,336 --> 00:32:16,456
Speaker 4: I had not ever started in a game in high

693
00:32:16,456 --> 00:32:19,096
Speaker 4: school and then just wanting to get my foot in

694
00:32:19,136 --> 00:32:22,216
Speaker 4: the door. Getting that opportunity the final year of my contract,

695
00:32:22,256 --> 00:32:24,376
Speaker 4: which if I don't play that year, Let's be honest, guys,

696
00:32:24,416 --> 00:32:25,776
Speaker 4: I'm not I didn't.

697
00:32:25,536 --> 00:32:27,576
Speaker 3: Have the career that I had at all.

698
00:32:27,776 --> 00:32:30,256
Speaker 4: I might maybe get on to another team as a

699
00:32:30,256 --> 00:32:32,976
Speaker 4: practice squad, but it set everything else up in motion.

700
00:32:33,096 --> 00:32:36,096
Speaker 4: So I'm totally fine when people say that because it

701
00:32:36,216 --> 00:32:38,056
Speaker 4: was a good time in my life and it was

702
00:32:38,096 --> 00:32:41,376
Speaker 4: something that was an opportunity in front of me. It

703
00:32:41,536 --> 00:32:43,256
Speaker 4: was given to me and it's whether or not you

704
00:32:43,336 --> 00:32:45,496
Speaker 4: capitalize on it, and I was able to capitalize on it,

705
00:32:45,536 --> 00:32:46,536
Speaker 4: and the rest is history.

706
00:32:46,616 --> 00:32:48,576
Speaker 1: Did you have a process though, well, for a while

707
00:32:48,656 --> 00:32:50,296
Speaker 1: like I got I which people wud ask about something else,

708
00:32:50,376 --> 00:32:53,696
Speaker 1: But now years you, with time, you can appreciate what

709
00:32:53,776 --> 00:32:54,056
Speaker 1: it is.

710
00:32:54,456 --> 00:32:55,056
Speaker 3: I can't, you know.

711
00:32:55,216 --> 00:32:57,976
Speaker 4: I think it was more so when I was still

712
00:32:57,976 --> 00:33:01,176
Speaker 4: playing in the league and different for different organizations when

713
00:33:01,176 --> 00:33:03,976
Speaker 4: you're starting for a different organization. But everybody still wanted

714
00:33:03,976 --> 00:33:06,976
Speaker 4: to go back talk about that season because again, I know,

715
00:33:07,056 --> 00:33:10,056
Speaker 4: it's an interesting story. I think that was probably more

716
00:33:10,056 --> 00:33:12,456
Speaker 4: annoying than what let's talk about the now, what we're

717
00:33:12,456 --> 00:33:15,936
Speaker 4: doing now. But as you get remove yourself from the game.

718
00:33:15,936 --> 00:33:19,496
Speaker 4: Now it's my fifth year out talking about it is

719
00:33:19,856 --> 00:33:22,176
Speaker 4: totally acceptable to me, and I embrace it.

720
00:33:22,176 --> 00:33:23,856
Speaker 3: Actually, it's a lot of fun to talk about.

721
00:33:23,656 --> 00:33:25,575
Speaker 1: And you know, you were going to talk about it

722
00:33:26,056 --> 00:33:28,856
Speaker 1: every time you do a new interview one hundred percent. Okay, Matt,

723
00:33:28,896 --> 00:33:31,456
Speaker 1: Still you got this massive song. You've got other number

724
00:33:31,736 --> 00:33:33,936
Speaker 1: it's not your only number one, but this song is

725
00:33:33,976 --> 00:33:34,575
Speaker 1: your monster.

726
00:33:35,016 --> 00:33:39,136
Speaker 2: Yeah, thoughts, Well, it definitely defines you, and I think

727
00:33:39,296 --> 00:33:42,815
Speaker 2: you know, in in entertainment, especially in music and in

728
00:33:42,896 --> 00:33:46,976
Speaker 2: country music. Right, the brand quote unquote ends up being

729
00:33:47,056 --> 00:33:50,815
Speaker 2: you're the You're the protagonist in the song. You know,

730
00:33:51,256 --> 00:33:54,536
Speaker 2: so I'm connected with that song that as necessarily the part.

731
00:33:54,616 --> 00:33:56,536
Speaker 2: Like I wrote that song about one of my co

732
00:33:56,576 --> 00:33:59,256
Speaker 2: writers meeting her husband like the day before, right, I'm

733
00:33:59,256 --> 00:34:01,656
Speaker 2: telling that story. That's how I view this song, Like

734
00:34:01,696 --> 00:34:05,256
Speaker 2: I'm I'm because that's my favorite kind of music, is

735
00:34:05,296 --> 00:34:08,176
Speaker 2: like you know, storytelling stuff or whatever. Like you know,

736
00:34:08,456 --> 00:34:12,696
Speaker 2: Kenny Rodgers didn't meet a hobo in a train car

737
00:34:12,776 --> 00:34:14,896
Speaker 2: that taught him how to play poker, right, Like that's

738
00:34:14,936 --> 00:34:18,176
Speaker 2: a character in the same way that that person in

739
00:34:18,176 --> 00:34:20,656
Speaker 2: the character or that person in my song is not

740
00:34:20,736 --> 00:34:24,335
Speaker 2: so much me. But I love the song. I mean, yeah,

741
00:34:24,376 --> 00:34:25,776
Speaker 2: you want to I mean, you.

742
00:34:25,776 --> 00:34:26,616
Speaker 3: Know, you got to play it through.

743
00:34:27,176 --> 00:34:28,815
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm proud to play it every night though,

744
00:34:29,216 --> 00:34:32,416
Speaker 2: Like I worked so all I ever wanted to do

745
00:34:32,616 --> 00:34:35,296
Speaker 2: was for anyone to give about a song I wrote.

746
00:34:35,776 --> 00:34:38,696
Speaker 2: And I thought it would be about different stuff than

747
00:34:38,736 --> 00:34:40,896
Speaker 2: what I I didn't think that would be the song

748
00:34:40,936 --> 00:34:44,136
Speaker 2: that did it, but it did it. And now that

749
00:34:44,216 --> 00:34:46,216
Speaker 2: I look back on it, and now that I'm married

750
00:34:46,256 --> 00:34:48,656
Speaker 2: now and it you know, now that I'm in.

751
00:34:48,616 --> 00:34:50,536
Speaker 3: A place in my life where there's like a person

752
00:34:50,576 --> 00:34:51,616
Speaker 3: that I care the most.

753
00:34:51,456 --> 00:34:57,296
Speaker 2: About, it's it is like that song has been refreshed

754
00:34:57,296 --> 00:34:59,576
Speaker 2: to me. And like, I know how big a deal

755
00:34:59,616 --> 00:35:02,136
Speaker 2: it is for people to include that song in a

756
00:35:02,176 --> 00:35:04,736
Speaker 2: wedding or in an anniversary or to say that that's

757
00:35:04,776 --> 00:35:08,776
Speaker 2: the song that matters to them, you know, like it

758
00:35:08,776 --> 00:35:10,896
Speaker 2: it's even more of like a compliment, like I've I've

759
00:35:10,936 --> 00:35:12,936
Speaker 2: come more than full circle on that.

760
00:35:13,016 --> 00:35:13,216
Speaker 3: You know.

761
00:35:13,376 --> 00:35:15,136
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't think I'd be the wedding song guy,

762
00:35:15,176 --> 00:35:18,296
Speaker 2: but you know, hey, it's a good thing to have.

763
00:35:18,456 --> 00:35:20,616
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, hey, wedding song. I give it to

764
00:35:20,656 --> 00:35:21,216
Speaker 2: me every time.

765
00:35:21,256 --> 00:35:21,776
Speaker 3: There's a lot of.

766
00:35:21,696 --> 00:35:25,536
Speaker 2: Weddings, there's a lot of people getting married. People people

767
00:35:25,576 --> 00:35:28,136
Speaker 2: get married and sometimes they get married a lot. There's

768
00:35:28,176 --> 00:35:29,496
Speaker 2: more marriages than couples.

769
00:35:29,496 --> 00:35:32,656
Speaker 3: Sometimes you drink, you drink coffee with their cast. No,

770
00:35:33,176 --> 00:35:35,096
Speaker 3: I don't have a coffee. I already had two coffees

771
00:35:36,256 --> 00:35:36,616
Speaker 3: was drinking.

772
00:35:36,816 --> 00:35:39,376
Speaker 2: I drank that much coffee every day of a or

773
00:35:39,496 --> 00:35:45,496
Speaker 2: of a single origin being of somewhere in a subtropical climate,

774
00:35:45,896 --> 00:35:49,456
Speaker 2: and a poreover that I grind and make every day

775
00:35:49,696 --> 00:35:51,056
Speaker 2: like a burist in my house.

776
00:35:52,576 --> 00:35:55,696
Speaker 3: I hate coffee. Yeah, well, did you ever do it

777
00:35:55,696 --> 00:35:57,456
Speaker 3: with a little bit of creamer in there? Hate? I'll

778
00:35:57,456 --> 00:35:58,416
Speaker 3: tell you what, it's fantasy.

779
00:35:58,456 --> 00:36:01,136
Speaker 1: I never even taste a coffee until I did Dancing

780
00:36:01,136 --> 00:36:05,016
Speaker 1: with the Stars. But because I was doing radio show, training, traveling,

781
00:36:05,016 --> 00:36:07,456
Speaker 1: doing step and I was like, I'm about to die,

782
00:36:07,816 --> 00:36:10,856
Speaker 1: I tried coffee. And that's only I was my thirty

783
00:36:10,896 --> 00:36:15,456
Speaker 1: forever tet. Awful the fact that you got it. I

784
00:36:15,496 --> 00:36:16,736
Speaker 1: can't acquire that taste.

785
00:36:18,296 --> 00:36:18,976
Speaker 3: I love it.

786
00:36:18,736 --> 00:36:21,936
Speaker 2: It's the reason, it's the reason I want tomorrow to happen.

787
00:36:22,176 --> 00:36:25,376
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really I love coffee. And it could be

788
00:36:25,496 --> 00:36:27,616
Speaker 4: the worst cup of coffee. I could go into like

789
00:36:27,616 --> 00:36:30,176
Speaker 4: a local gas station and just be like, oh, this

790
00:36:30,256 --> 00:36:31,696
Speaker 4: has been here for twenty four hours.

791
00:36:31,736 --> 00:36:33,176
Speaker 3: I'm still going to drink the hell out of it.

792
00:36:33,216 --> 00:36:36,016
Speaker 2: And I'm such a like, I'm like Bobby wood clothes

793
00:36:36,056 --> 00:36:40,616
Speaker 2: about coffee, Like I am snooty and I am.

794
00:36:40,536 --> 00:36:42,376
Speaker 3: Where did that come from? But what are you talking about?

795
00:36:42,936 --> 00:36:47,776
Speaker 3: I am? I am highbrow, I am exquisite.

796
00:36:49,296 --> 00:36:52,696
Speaker 2: I get less than less offended. I am luxurious about

797
00:36:52,776 --> 00:36:56,736
Speaker 2: my coffee. And I don't put anything in it. It's

798
00:36:56,776 --> 00:36:59,376
Speaker 2: just about the bean and where it's from.

799
00:36:59,816 --> 00:37:02,376
Speaker 3: You research this, I'm guessing you go. Do you dive

800
00:37:02,456 --> 00:37:04,856
Speaker 3: deep in the woods. There's coffee shops within, you know,

801
00:37:04,976 --> 00:37:05,856
Speaker 3: like I could. I could.

802
00:37:06,096 --> 00:37:08,096
Speaker 2: You could throw a football and hit some of my

803
00:37:08,096 --> 00:37:10,416
Speaker 2: favorite coffee shops here. And they just source these beans

804
00:37:10,416 --> 00:37:12,576
Speaker 2: from all over the world. They have different flavor notes.

805
00:37:12,616 --> 00:37:15,376
Speaker 2: Like you ever hear people that are douches about wine

806
00:37:15,496 --> 00:37:17,976
Speaker 2: and the flavor notes wine, it's the same. It's I'm

807
00:37:18,016 --> 00:37:18,976
Speaker 2: a coffee douche.

808
00:37:19,176 --> 00:37:19,776
Speaker 3: Oh you know what I am.

809
00:37:19,816 --> 00:37:23,416
Speaker 1: I'm a tartar douche. I just found out you ever

810
00:37:23,416 --> 00:37:25,296
Speaker 1: had I like some really good beef tartar. They making

811
00:37:25,296 --> 00:37:27,096
Speaker 1: fun of you and they put like a little egg,

812
00:37:27,136 --> 00:37:29,616
Speaker 1: look you taste it. I never tast I never had alcohol,

813
00:37:29,656 --> 00:37:31,736
Speaker 1: so I don't know what wine tastes like. So I

814
00:37:31,736 --> 00:37:33,296
Speaker 1: never got to do the cool thing where it's like

815
00:37:34,376 --> 00:37:36,216
Speaker 1: but add some tartar made and they do it in

816
00:37:36,216 --> 00:37:37,536
Speaker 1: front of you and they give you a little spoon

817
00:37:37,576 --> 00:37:38,736
Speaker 1: and like is this to your liking?

818
00:37:38,776 --> 00:37:40,056
Speaker 3: And I'm like, yeah, that'll do.

819
00:37:40,296 --> 00:37:45,416
Speaker 1: I finally got to do that. It was yes, Matts Tel,

820
00:37:45,416 --> 00:37:46,776
Speaker 1: you're playing you playing shows.

821
00:37:47,136 --> 00:37:48,736
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go to Florida in the morning.

822
00:37:49,016 --> 00:37:52,056
Speaker 1: Well not like today, like this is where I go. Hey,

823
00:37:52,176 --> 00:37:53,096
Speaker 1: promote your.

824
00:37:53,856 --> 00:37:56,616
Speaker 2: Whatever, Like I don't know, man, I got I got

825
00:37:56,656 --> 00:37:59,696
Speaker 2: music everywhere. You can find me everywhere, and I'm hilarious

826
00:38:00,136 --> 00:38:03,376
Speaker 2: on social media, so enjoy enjoy that audience.

827
00:38:03,536 --> 00:38:06,936
Speaker 1: Instagram at Matt Style, on TikTok, Matt Stelle music. Did

828
00:38:06,936 --> 00:38:10,056
Speaker 1: you know he is uh like he studied religion like

829
00:38:10,136 --> 00:38:13,336
Speaker 1: he's his masters. He got like he's gonna go be

830
00:38:13,376 --> 00:38:15,176
Speaker 1: a doctor, decided to do music instead.

831
00:38:15,456 --> 00:38:17,376
Speaker 3: I can see that. It's a brilliant mind in there.

832
00:38:17,536 --> 00:38:20,056
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about you when he's just a caffeinated mind.

833
00:38:21,376 --> 00:38:25,616
Speaker 4: Studied religion? What was just was it religious history? What's

834
00:38:25,616 --> 00:38:26,176
Speaker 4: the one you did?

835
00:38:26,296 --> 00:38:28,696
Speaker 3: Yeah? What what didn't you like? Yeah, let's go there,

836
00:38:28,776 --> 00:38:35,696
Speaker 3: let's get all right, religion is ranked coming next. Yeah, yeah,

837
00:38:36,176 --> 00:38:37,376
Speaker 3: how did what did you study?

838
00:38:37,856 --> 00:38:37,976
Speaker 1: Uh?

839
00:38:38,096 --> 00:38:42,016
Speaker 2: I studied really majored in philosophy and religion. My undergraduate

840
00:38:42,176 --> 00:38:45,256
Speaker 2: I was interested in, uh, not so much answering questions,

841
00:38:45,296 --> 00:38:46,776
Speaker 2: but I did. I didn't know this at the time,

842
00:38:46,776 --> 00:38:48,936
Speaker 2: but I basically have a degree in critical thinking, right,

843
00:38:49,096 --> 00:38:51,776
Speaker 2: and uh, you know I come from I come from

844
00:38:51,816 --> 00:38:57,336
Speaker 2: a Christian evangelical background, and I was interested in those

845
00:38:57,416 --> 00:38:58,456
Speaker 2: questions and where those.

846
00:38:58,376 --> 00:38:59,416
Speaker 3: Kinds of things come from.

847
00:38:59,456 --> 00:39:01,816
Speaker 2: And I learned a whole lot, changed my perspective a

848
00:39:01,816 --> 00:39:05,656
Speaker 2: whole lot when I encountered new not even new ideas,

849
00:39:05,696 --> 00:39:07,816
Speaker 2: So I just encountered different ideas. But really I have

850
00:39:07,856 --> 00:39:10,976
Speaker 2: a degree, I suppose in critical thinking my undergraduate and

851
00:39:10,976 --> 00:39:13,856
Speaker 2: then my masters is somewhat similar. It's sort of been

852
00:39:14,176 --> 00:39:17,576
Speaker 2: rhetoric and power struggles between groups.

853
00:39:17,976 --> 00:39:19,896
Speaker 3: I mean, looks dumb and rock smartest could.

854
00:39:19,776 --> 00:39:21,936
Speaker 4: Be, I mean smart as can be. Yeah, it's not

855
00:39:22,256 --> 00:39:24,216
Speaker 4: I have a degree in critical thinking. Mine was just

856
00:39:24,256 --> 00:39:26,136
Speaker 4: in communications and I don't know what I read. That's

857
00:39:26,136 --> 00:39:27,536
Speaker 4: what my masters is in this communication.

858
00:39:28,336 --> 00:39:28,536
Speaker 3: Matt.

859
00:39:28,576 --> 00:39:31,176
Speaker 1: Still, thank you very much for coming by. Yeah, you're welcome,

860
00:39:31,336 --> 00:39:31,896
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

861
00:39:31,896 --> 00:39:32,136
Speaker 4: You guys.

862
00:39:32,176 --> 00:39:34,656
Speaker 2: Can I ask a question Why did you Why did

863
00:39:34,696 --> 00:39:38,336
Speaker 2: you invite my wife and I to play pickleball? And

864
00:39:38,376 --> 00:39:40,936
Speaker 2: then we couldn't make it and haven't since, and it's

865
00:39:40,936 --> 00:39:44,816
Speaker 2: been beautiful. Is it because she is an unbelievable pickleball

866
00:39:44,856 --> 00:39:47,376
Speaker 2: player and will just beat the dust out of you

867
00:39:47,496 --> 00:39:47,936
Speaker 2: and us?

868
00:39:48,016 --> 00:39:48,416
Speaker 3: Is that it?

869
00:39:48,496 --> 00:39:51,336
Speaker 1: Great question? Uh? And I have a great answer for that.

870
00:39:51,416 --> 00:39:54,416
Speaker 1: So I invited you and your wife to play, and

871
00:39:54,416 --> 00:39:57,656
Speaker 1: I said, hey, come over, we're playing. And my phone died.

872
00:39:58,896 --> 00:40:02,096
Speaker 3: Oh my, that was a great excuse.

873
00:40:02,296 --> 00:40:05,096
Speaker 1: He turned it off pH a lot when I was

874
00:40:05,176 --> 00:40:08,976
Speaker 1: datd it literally died, and I was and I've I

875
00:40:09,056 --> 00:40:12,176
Speaker 1: was like, I told George Burge, both of our mutual friend.

876
00:40:12,296 --> 00:40:14,136
Speaker 1: I was like inviting Matt, but I've earn anything back.

877
00:40:14,496 --> 00:40:16,096
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, my phone died, and so

878
00:40:16,136 --> 00:40:17,416
Speaker 1: as soon as it came on, I was like, yeah,

879
00:40:17,536 --> 00:40:19,576
Speaker 1: I'll be over. And I was like, oh god, that's

880
00:40:19,576 --> 00:40:23,696
Speaker 1: like forty five minutes ago, so so on me. But

881
00:40:23,736 --> 00:40:26,016
Speaker 1: then we left the country. We've been gone and you

882
00:40:26,056 --> 00:40:27,896
Speaker 1: had the flu. Yes, true or false?

883
00:40:28,136 --> 00:40:30,736
Speaker 3: It's true. Yeah, so you have the flu until we

884
00:40:30,856 --> 00:40:33,576
Speaker 3: left the country. So you're saying this is just a

885
00:40:33,656 --> 00:40:36,536
Speaker 3: timing issue and it's not should read anything more proving

886
00:40:36,536 --> 00:40:40,576
Speaker 3: it with data. Okay, I'm a dad, I'm a slave

887
00:40:40,616 --> 00:40:41,096
Speaker 3: to data.

888
00:40:41,256 --> 00:40:44,096
Speaker 1: Yes, so if we're looking at game tape here, that's

889
00:40:44,096 --> 00:40:45,216
Speaker 1: exactly what happened.

890
00:40:46,176 --> 00:40:49,576
Speaker 3: And yes, he Castle's the pick awall player. I mean

891
00:40:49,616 --> 00:40:52,056
Speaker 3: pretty strong bullet points right there. Yeah, I got them.

892
00:40:52,256 --> 00:40:54,056
Speaker 3: My wife is the best ping pong.

893
00:40:54,216 --> 00:40:58,016
Speaker 2: I cannot score fifteen points on my wife playing ping pong,

894
00:40:58,056 --> 00:41:00,296
Speaker 2: and I'm not terrible. But in my DEFICITI she grew

895
00:41:00,376 --> 00:41:02,536
Speaker 2: up with a carpeted basement. So it tells you all

896
00:41:02,536 --> 00:41:03,016
Speaker 2: you need to know.

897
00:41:03,816 --> 00:41:06,456
Speaker 1: I would choose to rephrase that, but we're not rephraising

898
00:41:06,456 --> 00:41:07,216
Speaker 1: things different on the show.

899
00:41:10,176 --> 00:41:15,616
Speaker 3: Let's say at Matt Sell music on TikTok. All right,

900
00:41:15,616 --> 00:41:32,416
Speaker 3: thanks guys, here's the game.

901
00:41:33,016 --> 00:41:38,216
Speaker 1: Okay, if we had to equate NFL players with celebrities,

902
00:41:39,816 --> 00:41:42,496
Speaker 1: you would compare the current player with a current.

903
00:41:42,376 --> 00:41:43,576
Speaker 3: Pop culture figure.

904
00:41:44,336 --> 00:41:47,536
Speaker 1: I'd like to hear something, for example, and I have

905
00:41:47,576 --> 00:41:48,176
Speaker 1: a few of these.

906
00:41:48,256 --> 00:41:49,056
Speaker 3: I will go.

907
00:41:50,376 --> 00:41:57,696
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and Drake that that is my parallel. Here's

908
00:41:57,736 --> 00:42:03,456
Speaker 1: why one they win? They all they do is except recently,

909
00:42:03,496 --> 00:42:11,016
Speaker 1: except recently. They they win constantly, except recently, polarizing because

910
00:42:11,016 --> 00:42:14,936
Speaker 1: of how much they win. They're constantly in the goat combos,

911
00:42:15,016 --> 00:42:18,096
Speaker 1: even though they're not the actual goat yet.

912
00:42:18,136 --> 00:42:22,176
Speaker 3: Oh very strong bullet points. So I would go Drake

913
00:42:22,416 --> 00:42:25,096
Speaker 3: and Patrick Mahomes. You're up all.

914
00:42:25,056 --> 00:42:28,696
Speaker 4: Right, Well you mentioned Drake, I'm gonna have to go

915
00:42:30,136 --> 00:42:33,136
Speaker 4: in that same realm. I'm gonna go Kendrick Lamar and

916
00:42:33,296 --> 00:42:34,376
Speaker 4: Jalen Hurts.

917
00:42:34,576 --> 00:42:36,856
Speaker 3: Well, why they.

918
00:42:36,496 --> 00:42:39,296
Speaker 4: Both just were at the super Bowl and performed at

919
00:42:39,296 --> 00:42:43,696
Speaker 4: the super Bowl. Jalen Hurts slayed the dragon, so to speak,

920
00:42:44,376 --> 00:42:50,736
Speaker 4: beat his biggest rival, and Kendrick Lamar absolutely served up

921
00:42:51,696 --> 00:42:55,416
Speaker 4: some humble pie to Drake at the super Bowl. He won,

922
00:42:55,736 --> 00:42:58,736
Speaker 4: even even if the lawsuit might come along, Who cares?

923
00:42:59,016 --> 00:43:02,376
Speaker 3: That was amazing. You want to just right there?

924
00:43:02,456 --> 00:43:04,136
Speaker 4: I mean he performed in front of how many millions

925
00:43:04,136 --> 00:43:07,576
Speaker 4: of people and just I've completely had Serena Williams up

926
00:43:07,576 --> 00:43:08,496
Speaker 4: there crip walking.

927
00:43:08,936 --> 00:43:09,616
Speaker 3: It was amazing.

928
00:43:09,816 --> 00:43:12,816
Speaker 1: This is isn't even a competition, but you one round one?

929
00:43:13,016 --> 00:43:23,296
Speaker 1: Next up, Josh Allen, Chris Pratt lovable, great athletic, Yes, thick,

930
00:43:24,056 --> 00:43:28,376
Speaker 1: very thick. Does it always get the critical respect that

931
00:43:28,456 --> 00:43:34,976
Speaker 1: they deserve because of their like lovable thickness, But people

932
00:43:35,336 --> 00:43:35,776
Speaker 1: love them?

933
00:43:36,216 --> 00:43:38,696
Speaker 3: But both of them. Of course I would go Josh

934
00:43:38,696 --> 00:43:39,736
Speaker 3: Allen Chris Pratt.

935
00:43:40,056 --> 00:43:47,776
Speaker 4: I think that's a fantastic celebrity NFL player comparison. Let's

936
00:43:47,776 --> 00:43:50,816
Speaker 4: go with my boy Matt Stafford, and I'm going to

937
00:43:50,896 --> 00:43:55,056
Speaker 4: go with Matt Stafford and Brad Pitt. Matt Stafford is

938
00:43:55,096 --> 00:43:58,696
Speaker 4: now considered one of the elders of the NFL community.

939
00:43:59,616 --> 00:44:02,736
Speaker 4: Brad Pitt, obviously, he's been around for a real long time,

940
00:44:03,496 --> 00:44:06,376
Speaker 4: been very successful. He's consider are a little bit older

941
00:44:06,376 --> 00:44:09,176
Speaker 4: of an actor, but guess what, they're still getting it done.

942
00:44:09,776 --> 00:44:15,496
Speaker 4: They're still making hits, they're still dominating their profession, and

943
00:44:15,536 --> 00:44:16,776
Speaker 4: they're a little bit older, but they.

944
00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:18,576
Speaker 3: Still got it. That's all I gotta say. They still

945
00:44:18,576 --> 00:44:18,856
Speaker 3: got it.

946
00:44:18,896 --> 00:44:20,816
Speaker 4: When you're older as a male and somebody, you know,

947
00:44:20,896 --> 00:44:23,256
Speaker 4: like a lady comes up and says something to you,

948
00:44:23,296 --> 00:44:25,536
Speaker 4: and it's like, gosh, that made me feel good.

949
00:44:25,536 --> 00:44:27,376
Speaker 3: I still got it. That's a good one. They still

950
00:44:27,416 --> 00:44:27,736
Speaker 3: got it.

951
00:44:28,456 --> 00:44:34,576
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry, you're going to compare to Derrick Henry Jason Momoa. Oh,

952
00:44:34,616 --> 00:44:40,616
Speaker 1: I like that absolute tanks of the Humans. Both superheroes

953
00:44:40,736 --> 00:44:45,256
Speaker 1: look great in whatever superhero or football costume uniform they're wearing.

954
00:44:45,536 --> 00:44:48,056
Speaker 1: I'm going Derrick Henry Jason momoa.

955
00:44:48,296 --> 00:44:49,976
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that, and they both have

956
00:44:50,096 --> 00:44:53,336
Speaker 3: the long hair. I mean, it all works all right.

957
00:44:53,336 --> 00:44:53,856
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go.

958
00:44:55,296 --> 00:45:00,056
Speaker 4: Let's see Robert Downey Junior and Kyle Shanahan.

959
00:45:00,616 --> 00:45:03,336
Speaker 3: Oh a coach? Nice? I went Kyle Shann't because guess what.

960
00:45:04,016 --> 00:45:08,576
Speaker 4: They're all really well respect in their profession, thought of

961
00:45:09,416 --> 00:45:12,896
Speaker 4: as one of the top in their profession. But neither

962
00:45:12,936 --> 00:45:16,416
Speaker 4: one of them have won the big award. Shanahan's never

963
00:45:16,416 --> 00:45:18,496
Speaker 4: won a super Bowl, Robert Downey Junior has never won

964
00:45:18,536 --> 00:45:19,096
Speaker 4: an Oscar.

965
00:45:20,296 --> 00:45:22,416
Speaker 3: That's a great one. I didn't even think to go coach.

966
00:45:22,936 --> 00:45:25,016
Speaker 4: Well, I have thought coaches sometimes might be a little

967
00:45:25,016 --> 00:45:26,096
Speaker 4: bit easier, don't you think.

968
00:45:26,976 --> 00:45:30,456
Speaker 3: I mean, I obviously didn't. Again, I didn't think coach.

969
00:45:31,096 --> 00:45:37,056
Speaker 3: That was really good. I'm gonna go retired Tom Brady.

970
00:45:37,136 --> 00:45:39,456
Speaker 3: Can I guess who you're gonna go with? Yeah, Taylor Swift,

971
00:45:39,576 --> 00:45:41,896
Speaker 3: George Cloney, Oh darn it.

972
00:45:42,016 --> 00:45:49,056
Speaker 1: Tom Brady, George Cloney, ageless, okay, polished, freaking iconic walks

973
00:45:49,056 --> 00:45:52,816
Speaker 1: into any room, and it's just like, that's MF and

974
00:45:53,816 --> 00:45:56,536
Speaker 1: George Clooney or MF and Tom Brady.

975
00:45:56,816 --> 00:45:59,496
Speaker 3: That's that, dude. I love it.

976
00:46:00,056 --> 00:46:02,896
Speaker 4: That actually is a beautiful comparison as well. I went

977
00:46:02,936 --> 00:46:05,216
Speaker 4: Taylor Swift because they're both polarizing figures.

978
00:46:05,496 --> 00:46:06,815
Speaker 3: Either love them or hate them.

979
00:46:07,056 --> 00:46:10,016
Speaker 4: They've got their little group like Brady's got Boston whoever

980
00:46:10,016 --> 00:46:12,616
Speaker 4: else really likes them, and then Taylor.

981
00:46:12,416 --> 00:46:13,696
Speaker 3: Swift haves her Swifties.

982
00:46:14,216 --> 00:46:17,016
Speaker 4: But other than those people, there's a lot of people

983
00:46:17,056 --> 00:46:18,976
Speaker 4: that just dislike them want to see him fail.

984
00:46:19,416 --> 00:46:20,776
Speaker 3: That's why I say, and a lot of times out

985
00:46:20,776 --> 00:46:25,176
Speaker 3: of jealousy, just jealous because they've been successful. They're good

986
00:46:25,176 --> 00:46:26,176
Speaker 3: at everything that they do.

987
00:46:26,536 --> 00:46:29,176
Speaker 4: There's nothing that you can sit there and go, oh God,

988
00:46:29,216 --> 00:46:30,416
Speaker 4: I wish I didn't do that.

989
00:46:30,856 --> 00:46:36,616
Speaker 3: How any more? You got uh, let's see? Uh? How

990
00:46:36,616 --> 00:46:39,456
Speaker 3: about Timothy Charalama, Oh I got a challame, went too?

991
00:46:39,496 --> 00:46:41,176
Speaker 3: Do you Yours is going to be better? Though I

992
00:46:41,256 --> 00:46:43,736
Speaker 3: stretch with the mine. Well, I just kind of went

993
00:46:44,656 --> 00:46:47,616
Speaker 3: him with, say a brock party, that's what I have?

994
00:46:48,136 --> 00:46:49,456
Speaker 3: Do you swear to God?

995
00:46:49,816 --> 00:46:52,376
Speaker 4: Come on, I swear great minds, thinking like, look, you're

996
00:46:52,416 --> 00:46:54,776
Speaker 4: the very best friend that.

997
00:46:53,576 --> 00:46:56,176
Speaker 3: What does that say? Brock party equals.

998
00:46:57,616 --> 00:47:00,336
Speaker 4: A small frame? You go first, You go first, small

999
00:47:00,336 --> 00:47:05,736
Speaker 4: frame kind of up and coming. Both have proven themselves

1000
00:47:05,776 --> 00:47:08,496
Speaker 4: in some way, but everybody there's still always going to

1001
00:47:08,536 --> 00:47:10,896
Speaker 4: be their doubters because they kind of came out of nowhere.

1002
00:47:11,336 --> 00:47:15,376
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I have to with Timothy Shallamy and Brock Purty.

1003
00:47:17,456 --> 00:47:21,376
Speaker 1: Constantly people are telling you why they're not the person exactly,

1004
00:47:21,936 --> 00:47:24,576
Speaker 1: like that's it not that good. He's too skinny, I'm

1005
00:47:24,576 --> 00:47:26,176
Speaker 1: not shallow me like, he can't be an action he

1006
00:47:26,216 --> 00:47:29,616
Speaker 1: does doomed too, He's freaking awesome. Brock Pertty. Yeah, I

1007
00:47:29,376 --> 00:47:31,256
Speaker 1: had I had that one. Okay, okay, okay, let meet

1008
00:47:31,296 --> 00:47:38,136
Speaker 1: you another one here. Someone are terrible? How about Aaron

1009
00:47:38,216 --> 00:47:39,256
Speaker 1: Rodgers Walking Phoenix?

1010
00:47:41,856 --> 00:47:44,496
Speaker 3: I like that one. Weird, very weird.

1011
00:47:44,496 --> 00:47:48,416
Speaker 1: But both of them are very weird, mysterious, genius level

1012
00:47:48,456 --> 00:47:50,976
Speaker 1: like talent one on the on the field one acting,

1013
00:47:52,056 --> 00:47:56,736
Speaker 1: both off the grid type people but undeniable when locked in.

1014
00:47:57,576 --> 00:48:03,176
Speaker 3: Mm yes, like the Joker. Oh the method acting, I

1015
00:48:03,176 --> 00:48:03,616
Speaker 3: mean it's.

1016
00:48:04,296 --> 00:48:08,416
Speaker 1: And Aaron Rodgers slicing defenses up like when he's healthy

1017
00:48:08,416 --> 00:48:10,536
Speaker 1: and on methodical nothing like it.

1018
00:48:10,656 --> 00:48:13,376
Speaker 3: Yeah, so much fun to watch. Let's I love it.

1019
00:48:13,416 --> 00:48:15,096
Speaker 3: Let's go one more each If you have one more, I've.

1020
00:48:14,896 --> 00:48:20,856
Speaker 4: Got, let's do Kanye West and Tyreek Hill, Oh boy,

1021
00:48:20,896 --> 00:48:23,136
Speaker 4: because guess what they beat to their own drum.

1022
00:48:23,416 --> 00:48:25,976
Speaker 3: They don't give a crap what other people think. They

1023
00:48:26,016 --> 00:48:27,656
Speaker 3: beat to their own drum? That would be right, because

1024
00:48:27,856 --> 00:48:30,256
Speaker 3: I think the term is drummed to their own beat. Yeah. Well,

1025
00:48:30,376 --> 00:48:32,056
Speaker 3: but but they do beat to their own drum. Yeah,

1026
00:48:32,056 --> 00:48:34,696
Speaker 3: I'm just coming up with something new. No exactly.

1027
00:48:34,976 --> 00:48:37,376
Speaker 4: Maybe it's me and Kanye then, okay, because I say

1028
00:48:37,416 --> 00:48:40,056
Speaker 4: stuff whatever I want and I don't give a good

1029
00:48:40,096 --> 00:48:42,456
Speaker 4: crap what anybody else thinks. Okay, That's where I'm at

1030
00:48:42,576 --> 00:48:46,296
Speaker 4: right now. And I just think that those two they're

1031
00:48:46,616 --> 00:48:50,936
Speaker 4: highly successful. They go out, they perform, but it's done

1032
00:48:50,976 --> 00:48:53,096
Speaker 4: in a way that it's always going to be their way.

1033
00:48:54,536 --> 00:48:55,336
Speaker 3: I give you one more.

1034
00:48:55,616 --> 00:48:58,336
Speaker 4: Okay, you didn't like that one as much. I can

1035
00:48:58,416 --> 00:49:00,976
Speaker 4: feel it in your bones, No bones, I can feel

1036
00:49:00,976 --> 00:49:01,335
Speaker 4: it in your.

1037
00:49:01,216 --> 00:49:04,416
Speaker 1: Bobby I do they do drum to their own beat

1038
00:49:04,456 --> 00:49:05,576
Speaker 1: and beat their own drum?

1039
00:49:05,696 --> 00:49:06,496
Speaker 3: Or whatever? You said?

1040
00:49:06,776 --> 00:49:08,696
Speaker 1: What if I did like the rock in Matt Castle,

1041
00:49:08,896 --> 00:49:11,656
Speaker 1: except I can find no, no, nothing.

1042
00:49:11,936 --> 00:49:15,256
Speaker 3: He's a better entertainer, he's more fit. Okay.

1043
00:49:15,656 --> 00:49:20,016
Speaker 1: Julian Edelman and Mark Wahlberg, I could see that Boston

1044
00:49:21,016 --> 00:49:21,976
Speaker 1: scrappy as crap.

1045
00:49:22,536 --> 00:49:25,056
Speaker 3: I mean, Julian's from California, But you think of them,

1046
00:49:25,496 --> 00:49:28,216
Speaker 3: that's true. That's true. I'm just kidding.

1047
00:49:28,256 --> 00:49:31,136
Speaker 1: Did I pee in a single cheerio you had?

1048
00:49:32,616 --> 00:49:34,336
Speaker 3: When you think of Edelman, you think of the freaking

1049
00:49:34,336 --> 00:49:35,616
Speaker 3: page of Boston.

1050
00:49:35,776 --> 00:49:41,336
Speaker 1: Yes short, I mean, because yes they are.

1051
00:49:41,816 --> 00:49:43,816
Speaker 3: Wahlburg is not a tall guy.

1052
00:49:44,496 --> 00:49:47,696
Speaker 1: Had to figure it out differently, like they both had

1053
00:49:47,696 --> 00:49:49,696
Speaker 1: to come up and figure it out a bit, deffinitely

1054
00:49:49,856 --> 00:49:52,776
Speaker 1: non traditionally and just kind of won't be ignored type.

1055
00:49:52,816 --> 00:49:53,376
Speaker 3: Guys.

1056
00:49:53,736 --> 00:49:55,896
Speaker 4: Well, you crushed that one because I had one hundred

1057
00:49:55,896 --> 00:49:56,736
Speaker 4: percent agree with that.

1058
00:49:56,976 --> 00:50:00,456
Speaker 3: Edelman was played quarterback in college. Yeah, do you know what?

1059
00:50:00,936 --> 00:50:05,176
Speaker 3: At Yellow Kent State? Kent State? Thank you in State?

1060
00:50:05,416 --> 00:50:08,776
Speaker 3: And then Wahlberg was Marky Mark and funky.

1061
00:50:08,496 --> 00:50:12,256
Speaker 1: Bunch, I mean, how yeah he was.

1062
00:50:11,856 --> 00:50:13,856
Speaker 3: The other was New Kids on the Block. I know.

1063
00:50:13,936 --> 00:50:15,536
Speaker 3: I used to love New Kids on the Block. I

1064
00:50:15,576 --> 00:50:17,216
Speaker 3: secretly did, but not publicly.

1065
00:50:17,536 --> 00:50:20,776
Speaker 4: No, I publicly showed them love everywhere I went. I

1066
00:50:20,816 --> 00:50:22,376
Speaker 4: think I even did lip sing to them when I

1067
00:50:22,416 --> 00:50:26,096
Speaker 4: was in grade school. Crush all all four of them

1068
00:50:26,136 --> 00:50:26,776
Speaker 4: or five of them?

1069
00:50:26,936 --> 00:50:27,576
Speaker 3: You know which song?

1070
00:50:29,776 --> 00:50:37,656
Speaker 1: Please don't go care, O, baby gonna get to you.

1071
00:50:37,856 --> 00:50:42,536
Speaker 3: Care step on So good. That's good.

1072
00:50:43,736 --> 00:50:46,056
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1073
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Speaker 1: to Matt Castle. I'm Bobby Bones and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: next week. This is Lots to Say, Lots to Say

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Speaker 1: with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is a production of

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Speaker 1: the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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Speaker 1: visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts.