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Speaker 2: This is it could happen here Executive Disorder, our weekly
Speaker 2: newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world,
Speaker 2: and what it means for you. I'm Garson Davis. Today
Speaker 2: I am joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and later
Speaker 2: a special report by Robert Evans. This episode, we are
Speaker 2: covering the week of June twenty fifth to July second.
Speaker 2: It is the end of Pride month. It was Canada Day.
Speaker 2: Fourth of July is coming up. I will say no
Speaker 2: one in our team wished me a happy Canada Day,
Speaker 2: not that I noticed.
Speaker 1: Hm, that's correct.
Speaker 3: I hate the Trump administration because I can't do my
Speaker 3: death the Canada jokes anymore.
Speaker 2: It sucks terrible Canada. Welcome to the Resistance. I'm going
Speaker 2: to start with a brief news roundup because there's been
Speaker 2: so many news stories this past week that we cannot
Speaker 2: do big sections on all of them. We already have
Speaker 2: three main stories, but there's some mini stories that I
Speaker 2: didn't want to get forgotten. I'm going to start by
Speaker 2: talking about the Supreme Court, which has now limited the
Speaker 2: ability of lower court judges to use nationwide injunctions. So
Speaker 2: now Trump's order to end a birthright citizenship can be enforced,
Speaker 2: if even temporarily, for those who are not affiliated with
Speaker 2: the actual court cases on the constitutionality of ending birthright citizenship.
Speaker 2: What this means on a broader scale is that Trump's
Speaker 2: very obviously illegal executive orders can now be enforced in
Speaker 2: a lot of states because the injunctions that judges are
Speaker 2: putting on only apply to the people in those specific cases,
Speaker 2: so enforcement of the orders can start before the final
Speaker 2: order on if it's legal or not gets issued. So
Speaker 2: this is really bad because it will cause some intense,
Speaker 2: if temporary, like short term headaches for many people who's
Speaker 2: now citizenship is in a big question mark. But the
Speaker 2: also affects many other cases regarding judge's ability to actually
Speaker 2: issue injunctions that affect things across the whole country.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is some sort of like weird hack shit
Speaker 3: you can do where like there's been some stuff the
Speaker 3: judges have been trying to do and to be like
Speaker 3: everyone in the country is a plaintive or whatever. The
Speaker 3: fuck Yeah, and I don't know how long that's going
Speaker 3: to hold up, and like and like the fuck thing
Speaker 3: about this is again, it's just like what this means
Speaker 3: is Troup administration can kind of do whatever the fuck
Speaker 3: they want and it's just legal until the Supreme Court
Speaker 3: like looks at it, and that's completely unhinged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, egregiously illegal orders can now be enforced for
Speaker 2: a period of months to years. Yeah, as the court
Speaker 2: cases eventually will churn their way up to the Supreme Court.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And this is a particularly egregious one too, because the
Speaker 3: birthright citizenship is so obviously it's just literally in the Constitution.
Speaker 3: It's literally the Constitution just says if you're born here,
Speaker 3: you're a citizen.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well it says that section of the Amendment that
Speaker 1: is under question is subject to the authority thereof which
Speaker 1: is what is being litigated here. There is a section
Speaker 1: there that that I guess is perceived by some people
Speaker 1: to be debateable. Doesn't seem very debatable to me, right.
Speaker 3: No, it's completely insane. Yeah, it's like unhinged shit. Like
Speaker 3: it's like it's like it's like stuff you wouldn't have
Speaker 3: seen even from like unhinged conservative legal cranks fifteen years ago.
Speaker 1: You absolutely would have seen this particular case.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Well, I guess the absolute most unhinged baby, But
Speaker 3: like you wouldn't have seen even like I don't know,
Speaker 3: the normal like person on Fox News kind of unhinged
Speaker 3: arguing this even like fifteen years ago and.
Speaker 1: Now this was like on the on the blogs I have,
Speaker 1: you know, the GeoCities era web design.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Trying to restrict and quantify citizenship is going to be
Speaker 2: probably the main theme of this episode, as we will
Speaker 2: get to in the future, and if even temporarily trying
Speaker 2: to strip the citizenship but already thousands, one hundred thousands
Speaker 2: people who are who live in this country is incredible
Speaker 2: worrying considering the massive amount of increased funding that ICE
Speaker 2: is about to receive. Speaking of ICE, second little mini
Speaker 2: story in explosive ICE raid in Huntington Park, California, Yeah,
Speaker 2: or attack and ICE agents used explosives to breach and
Speaker 2: raid the home of US citizens. A drone was sent
Speaker 2: into the home after explosives shattered the windows, sending glass
Speaker 2: yards flying into the home occupied by a mother and
Speaker 2: two young children. The target of the raid was not
Speaker 2: in the home. A Border patrol was looking for a
Speaker 2: man that got into a car accident during a previous
Speaker 2: ICE raid, who was questioned at the scene and was
Speaker 2: allowed to leave. But now the DHS alleges the man
Speaker 2: was obstructing the actions of ICE when he rammed his
Speaker 2: car into a vehicle carrying CBP agents, though witnesses at
Speaker 2: the scene say that the fed's break checked, leading to
Speaker 2: a rear ending. The man turned himself in on Friday
Speaker 2: after the raid. So what actually happened here is that
Speaker 2: ICE caused a car accident and in response, they blew
Speaker 2: up the home of US citizens.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, the dynamically breached, Yeah, at home with a little
Speaker 1: child in right, like like you see in the video, two.
Speaker 2: Young kids, I think, like a six year old and
Speaker 2: a two year old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you see them, the presumably the mother of the
Speaker 1: two mother, Yeah, with the child in her arms, leaving.
Speaker 2: They sent a fucking drone in there. They're acting like
Speaker 2: it's the house full of like active combatants. You have
Speaker 2: like dozens dozens of people in military fatigues raiding this home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, except that they didn't do it in such a
Speaker 1: fashion as you would if you if you were actually worried,
Speaker 1: right like, they didn't. There wasn't a flashbang, right that
Speaker 1: they breached, stood around for a while, sent a drone in.
Speaker 1: They didn't dynamically breach in a dynamic way, right, like
Speaker 1: they would if they were expecting a real threat.
Speaker 3: No, they just wanted to blow up this person's fucking
Speaker 3: house because they were pissed off that they that that
Speaker 3: they caused a car accident. Yes, these are These are
Speaker 3: the tiniest fucking baby secret police I have ever seen
Speaker 3: in my entire goddamn life. Fucking Christ.
Speaker 2: It runs me of that one like picture of like
Speaker 2: a police raid in the nineties that conservatives used to
Speaker 2: use in terms of like like the government's taking over
Speaker 2: of this of this like you know, retro ninety swat
Speaker 2: cop like pointing a gun at like a family. It's
Speaker 2: like hiding in like a closet and.
Speaker 1: The Elian Gonzales rage.
Speaker 2: You mean, yeah, and how much this was used as
Speaker 2: like fear of like federal overreach, like used by conservatives
Speaker 2: And now this is like their entire platform is raiding
Speaker 2: the home of US citizens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably worth noting. I believe Huntington part their mayor,
Speaker 1: has directed their police to enforce the California law which
Speaker 1: requires law enforcement offices to identify themselves. Right, It's been
Speaker 1: very common to the ice agents refuse to identify themselves
Speaker 1: and wear masks, right, And I believe this was passed
Speaker 1: by their council, and then their mayor, whose name is
Speaker 1: Arturo Flores, released a statement calling the ice abductions mass
Speaker 1: abductions and directing his police to intervene if what was
Speaker 1: happening was unlawful or unauthorized. And I can't help but
Speaker 1: think that that is why we saw this happen here, right,
Speaker 1: I think it may not be so much of car
Speaker 1: crash as a child to do something in this city,
Speaker 1: which has yeah, been one of the very few that
Speaker 1: has taken meaningful action to prevent this.
Speaker 2: Absolutely because people don't like ice. There's new ICE approval
Speaker 2: ratings that came out by Quinnipiac on a June twenty fourth,
Speaker 2: twenty five net approval of ICE negative seventeen percent, Democrats
Speaker 2: negative eighty Independence negative thirty two. This is this centrist position,
Speaker 2: Independence negative thirty two percent.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you've got like Bush admin stuff as saying
Speaker 1: abolish eyes. It's a win for me.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, GOP is up sixty but that's it. This
Speaker 2: is like the centrist position now. And also, yeah, sixty
Speaker 2: percent is nearly half the GOP. Like, people don't like ice.
Speaker 2: The majority of people in this country don't like ICE
Speaker 2: negative seventeen percent. Yeah, candidates need to run on abolishing ICE.
Speaker 2: This is like one of the most important issues facing
Speaker 2: the country right now, and they are wildly unpopular, including
Speaker 2: for independence. For this is this set abolishing ice should
Speaker 2: be the centrist position.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well but this but this is this is sort
Speaker 3: of the problem, right, which is that the Democrats did this,
Speaker 3: like well least some of them, least AOC did so
Speaker 3: just some of that. A Democratic wave ran on that
Speaker 3: in twenty eighteen, and then the Democrats were just like
Speaker 3: each shit, we're never going to do that again, and
Speaker 3: like AOC never fucking mentioned it again. Like they all
Speaker 3: came into power and we're like, Okay, we got to
Speaker 3: deal a super border crackdown. Shit. It's like they need
Speaker 3: to they fucking need to do this. Yeah, but people
Speaker 3: should bring it back. I think that the data here
Speaker 3: is in support. Yeah, and like ICE is younger than
Speaker 3: I am.
Speaker 2: Ice is younger than all of us, Like ICE is
Speaker 2: is a fucking fake agency.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and DHS is younger than most of us.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I like the ICE as an agency should be like
Speaker 2: disappear and we should like try to be forgiven for
Speaker 2: it over the course of hundreds of years.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, yeah, people want to learn more about the
Speaker 1: history of DHS. I did a series about title forty
Speaker 1: two where I talk about it a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Speaking of agencies that shouldn't exist. The BBC cut the
Speaker 2: feed of the glass Very Music Festival during Kneecap's performance
Speaker 2: to block pro Palstitian messaging, but they failed to stop
Speaker 2: Bob Villain from leading a Death to the IDF chance.
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan.
Speaker 2: Villain what Bob Dylan based on Vilain. They are a
Speaker 2: punk rap group and they were leading Death to the
Speaker 2: IDF Chance broadcast live on the stage. Both of these
Speaker 2: music groups, Kneecap and Bop Villain, are now an investigation
Speaker 2: by the British police from their political comments at this
Speaker 2: music festival, and the US State Department has revoked Bob
Speaker 2: Villain's work visa ahead of an upcoming US tour as
Speaker 2: punishment for criticizing the military of a foreign country. The
Speaker 2: Party of Free Speech strikes once again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do want to say that, like as a
Speaker 1: as a consumer of Glastonbrie Music Festival content, right, I
Speaker 1: guess as a British person. Yeah, And then the target
Speaker 1: like age demographic. I guess what this has overshadowed is
Speaker 1: the massive amount of support for the Palestinian cause that
Speaker 1: you saw. Like, go watch a glaston bree video and
Speaker 1: you will not not see Palestinian flagged in the crowd
Speaker 1: most of them. You will hear the artists acknowledging that
Speaker 1: there is a genocide in Palestine.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone at the BBC is familiar
Speaker 1: with Bob Villain, Like, I'm sure they've played their music,
Speaker 1: but whoever made the choice to stream them and not
Speaker 1: stream Kneecap clearly had not done like a fucking like
Speaker 1: a Wikipedia level research, because you know what you're getting
Speaker 1: into with these guys, Like both the people in the
Speaker 1: band are called Bobby Villain, right, No, that's says staging
Speaker 1: that they use in order to have a little bit
Speaker 1: of privacy. But there's an interview with him a while
Speaker 1: ago where he's like, Yeah, I just like pisching people
Speaker 1: off because it's the only thing that brings me joy
Speaker 1: in this miserable fucking country. Yeah, they've been very outspoken
Speaker 1: about a large number of things that.
Speaker 3: The British police have been going completely unhinged with this too.
Speaker 3: The Parliament's currently I don't know what the result. I
Speaker 3: think they may have voted to do it already. They've
Speaker 3: been trying to vote to like make it illegal for
Speaker 3: like Palestinian Action to exist after they did it after
Speaker 3: they did a pretty big action.
Speaker 1: At a Pristine Action year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, after Parson Action did a pretty big like ACTIONETA,
Speaker 3: like fucking British arms manufacturer that's also Israel. So they're
Speaker 3: going so unhinged on all of this shit.
Speaker 2: And they've been going after Anecap for years. There's multiple
Speaker 2: investigations into Kneecap. Now you should check out neecaps new movie.
Speaker 2: It's pretty good for our first main story, I guess
Speaker 2: I'll throated James to discuss denaturalization.
Speaker 1: Yeah so yeah, a less exciting than Glassy music festival.
Speaker 1: So denaturalization, if you're not familiar, rate with the removal
Speaker 1: of US citizenship from people who became US citizens at
Speaker 1: some point in their life. The DOJ has issued instructions
Speaker 1: to its Civil Division employees to pursue denaturalization proceedings against
Speaker 1: naturalized US citizens quote in all cases permitted by Lauren
Speaker 1: supported by the evidence. It goes on to list some categories.
Speaker 1: These include some of the things you might expect, including
Speaker 1: being in access to terrorism and organized crime, people who
Speaker 1: engaged in war crimes, people who committed violent crimes or
Speaker 1: failed to disclose fell on their application for naturalization. But
Speaker 1: they also include fraud both against private individuals and against Medicaid, Medicare,
Speaker 1: and the pay Check Protection Plan maybe program the PPP
Speaker 1: COVID era government bailout. Right. The last one, however, is
Speaker 1: the most concerning. Quote any cases referred to the Civil
Speaker 1: Division that the division considers officially important to pursue.
Speaker 2: Any cases that are found to be sufficient sufficiently important.
Speaker 1: Just people aren't familiar rates. Civil and criminal law are distinct. Right,
Speaker 1: civil law has a lower burden of proof, and crucially,
Speaker 1: the accused person is not entitled to legal representation. In addition,
Speaker 1: this could have trickle down effects. Right, children of naturalized
Speaker 1: citizens are also citizens, so their citizenship derives from their
Speaker 1: parent citizenship. So it's possible that children who are not
Speaker 1: even accused of doing anything wrong could be the natural
Speaker 1: not naturalized, he citizenized, and left stateless. Right, many of
Speaker 1: these children will not be dual nationals. This is another
Speaker 1: big problem with like ending birthright citizenship. Yeah, so it
Speaker 1: will lead people, so like this is something that I
Speaker 1: do feel like, much like I feel like in the
Speaker 1: UK people should have pushed back against the government prosecuting
Speaker 1: people for saying shit that was fucking hateful and disgusting
Speaker 1: about migrants when there was a stabbing attack last year.
Speaker 1: I still feel people should have pushed back because it's
Speaker 1: not a good situation when the government gets to decide
Speaker 1: what you can and can't think. Likewise, in this instance,
Speaker 1: nations in the global North have been leaving people who
Speaker 1: fought for the or people who are accused of fighting
Speaker 1: for the Islamic state or joining the Islamic State stateless
Speaker 1: for a long time, and I think that was a
Speaker 1: bad precedent and they were able to. As we'll get
Speaker 1: into they will always use an odious person as the
Speaker 1: first example, right to set the precedent and then go
Speaker 1: from there.
Speaker 6: Yep.
Speaker 1: So in the odious person example in this case is
Speaker 1: someone called Elliott Duke. They have been denaturalized. Duke was
Speaker 1: a UK citizen served in the United States military. While
Speaker 1: serving in Germany, they received and distributed child sex abuse material,
Speaker 1: according to the DOJ. They were later contacted by the
Speaker 1: FBI about this and prosecuted. The DOJ stated that their
Speaker 1: case was identified as part of Operation Prison Lookout, which
Speaker 1: aims to identify sex offenders who have naturalized. I haven't
Speaker 1: seen any reporting on Prison Lookout. It's in the press release,
Speaker 1: but I think maybe people don't read to the bottom.
Speaker 1: But it appears that the DOJ this case has been
Speaker 1: going on for months, the Duke case, right, And so
Speaker 1: the DOJ as early as February this year was looking
Speaker 1: through prosecution records to fin and find naturalized citizens who
Speaker 1: have been convicted of sex crimes. Duke was not able
Speaker 1: to get an attorney to represent them. They also it
Speaker 1: appears to renounce a UK citizenship and it's not very
Speaker 1: clear what happens now. Right, like in another stateless person
Speaker 1: cases where this is person go. Denaturalization has been used before.
Speaker 1: Right that the time when the United States did the
Speaker 1: most denaturalization was during the Second Red Scare second ord
Speaker 1: to gay kay and McCarthyism.
Speaker 2: Right, and oh boy, are they trying to bring it back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yep, twenty thousand cases a year in the McCarthy era.
Speaker 1: For reference, stats I could find suggest about twenty five
Speaker 1: million naturalized citizens in the United States. Both Obama Obama
Speaker 1: had some the cooperation. JANUS identified people who were eligible
Speaker 1: for denaturalization. Trump one also at higher rates of denaturalization,
Speaker 1: but nothing on this McCarthy era scale. Right, people will
Speaker 1: be familiar with denaturalization also before that, that happened to
Speaker 1: Emma Goldman for example.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one other story from this week that's kind of
Speaker 2: related is it was announced that pool to check the
Speaker 2: citizenship status of all Americans. This is the first time
Speaker 2: we've had a centralized tool like this, or we've attempted to.
Speaker 2: The US has for a while has resisted creating like
Speaker 2: a dossier of like official citizens because this is like
Speaker 2: a kind of problematic thing to have. There's a lot
Speaker 2: of issues with this concept. Actually verifying that this list
Speaker 2: is accurate is very tricky.
Speaker 1: You have to add people.
Speaker 2: Who have been naturalized, how they've been naturalized. There's other
Speaker 2: people who acquire citizenship through other means than the standard
Speaker 2: like naturalization process, like including like through through your parents.
Speaker 2: There's the Child Citizenship Act of two thousand where if
Speaker 2: one of your parents is a US citizen and you
Speaker 2: are not a US citizen, but you live with your
Speaker 2: US citizen parent while being a legal permanent resident, that
Speaker 2: then gives you automatic citizenship, but you don't need to
Speaker 2: apply for the naturalization process. So this is like a
Speaker 2: really weird thing to prove you have to apply for
Speaker 2: a certificate or apply for a passport as proof of citizenship.
Speaker 2: How would those cases be added to this list? This
Speaker 2: is an incredibly problematic thing to have, and it's going
Speaker 2: to be used mainly just to hunt people down and
Speaker 2: try to deport them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, massive information security risk.
Speaker 2: It's really problematic and tied in with these other denaturalization programs.
Speaker 2: It's a really worrying sign of where things are going
Speaker 2: to be going.
Speaker 1: Yeah, talking of worrying signs, this is a worrying sign
Speaker 1: that we have to pivot to advertisements.
Speaker 2: All right, we are back, James. You do have one
Speaker 2: piece of good news in the immigration front? Well, I do,
Speaker 2: gars sent I've gotta hate you some bad news first, buddy.
Speaker 2: That's the way this show works.
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Speaker 3: It could happen here?
Speaker 1: Special Immigrant Defenders Law Center, i legal nonprofit, says one
Speaker 1: of their clients, Julie Cadaron, was abducted by armed men
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles and taken to Santy Segro. People are
Speaker 1: not familiar Santy Sgro is the border that you might
Speaker 1: call San Diego border, right, the town that actually has
Speaker 1: the physical excess of Tijuana. Santisidro. The city of San
Speaker 1: Diego also has some land down there. She was told
Speaker 1: at santis Udro that she was to sign voluntary deportation papers.
Speaker 1: She very reasonably refused, ask to see Laura and a judge,
Speaker 1: and at this point she was taken and returned to
Speaker 1: the armed men and it's now being detained in a
Speaker 1: warehouse with no beds, blankets, or food. She was able
Speaker 1: to make a call to her family from a blocked number.
Speaker 1: She described the people as bounty hunters and at this
Speaker 1: point she said she has not seen any uniformed offices
Speaker 1: in her detention. Right, she's being detained in an area
Speaker 1: where men and women are mixed, which is not usual
Speaker 1: in border patrol attention and according to IMDEV, according to IMDEF,
Speaker 1: she has not been able to shower and the only
Speaker 1: water source is a sink. The Mexican Consulate has been
Speaker 1: informed and thinks that she might now be in the
Speaker 1: Otai Mesa detention center, but because she's not showing up
Speaker 1: on the ice detainee locator, they don't know that. For sure,
Speaker 1: and they are therefore still a little bit unclear on
Speaker 1: where this leg has gone. I have seen reports of
Speaker 1: bounty hunters, many of you have sent them to me.
Speaker 1: I have seen none that I find to be credible
Speaker 1: before this. Im Deaf are an established group. They are
Speaker 1: not people who I've found to be prone to making
Speaker 1: things up or exaggerating, like I trust them as a source.
Speaker 1: And this is deeply, deeply worrying. I don't know why
Speaker 1: it's not getting more coverage, other than most people on
Speaker 1: the migration and border beat perhaps don't speak Spanish or
Speaker 1: have actually just turned up on this beat a few
Speaker 1: weeks ago and have have no notion of like who
Speaker 1: the actors and these groups are, and they tend to
Speaker 1: go off government press releases. This is like that we
Speaker 1: haven't seen in the United States since I know the
Speaker 1: Fugitive Slave Act. Like it's appalling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like the most just actual, straight up
Speaker 3: nineteen thirties is Nazis shit that we've seen from them, Like, yes,
Speaker 3: it's hideous, Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's happening here in San Diego. But it's also of
Speaker 1: course like, as Californians, we are entering this time with
Speaker 1: the most cowardly and like pathetic governor that we've had
Speaker 1: in a long time, like Arnolds Tortzenego is a Republican.
Speaker 1: But I bad you have handled this better than Nuisan,
Speaker 1: who is just a slime ball.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the fact that Newsom isn't like like, if
Speaker 3: this was happening in fucking Illinois, Pritscrew would have swat
Speaker 3: teams like these these these people would be like dead
Speaker 3: right now. But like this is this is completely fucking unhinged.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, this is fuck yeah, James, I was I
Speaker 2: was promised a good news after the break.
Speaker 1: Right, Garrison, and I do have some lucky you. Finally,
Speaker 1: a judge has ordered that Trump's sweeping asylum band exceeds
Speaker 1: his authority as president and granted broad class protection. So
Speaker 1: we're going to see, like literally this happened maybe thirty
Speaker 1: minutes before before we started recording. I'm going to read
Speaker 1: over the court documents I've linked them in the notes
Speaker 1: here until what this means. But it suggests that Trump's
Speaker 1: authority and under the Immigration Naturalization Act doesn't allow him
Speaker 1: to just say we're not doing asylum anymore, and therefore
Speaker 1: that could mean that it's possible for people to once
Speaker 1: again apply for asylum in the United States. I don't
Speaker 1: know how that will look. The Biden administration had great
Speaker 1: success gating asylum through CBP one right and making it
Speaker 1: practically impossible for many people, people who have darker skin,
Speaker 1: people who don't have fancy as cell phone, people don't
Speaker 1: have access to Wi Fi et cetera, et cetera, to
Speaker 1: apply for asylum. That was a Biden administration. The people
Speaker 1: who we're supposed to think of good, they were terrible
Speaker 1: for migrants, but they did they got that, they got
Speaker 1: that through right. So what we'll see from the Trump administration,
Speaker 1: I don't imagine we will see a return to like
Speaker 1: regular title light asylum processing as we saw, like you know,
Speaker 1: the last time we saw it, I guess was in
Speaker 1: the apartment area and that was pretty bad. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know what we'll see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, now, I'm going to throw two Robert
Speaker 2: Evans for a special report on the Diddy trial.
Speaker 7: Hey, everybody, Robert here. I guess I'm a resident p
Speaker 7: Didy expert because I did the Bastards episodes on him.
Speaker 7: Just felt like it was appropriate to give y'all a
Speaker 7: brief update. So on the day that we record this
Speaker 7: which is Wednesday, the second of July. Sean Diddy Combs
Speaker 7: was found guilty on two of the five charges in
Speaker 7: his trial. He was being charged with racketeering, conspiracy, and
Speaker 7: sex trafficking, and he was not found guilty of racketeering,
Speaker 7: conspiracy or of both sex trafficking accounts, each of which
Speaker 7: carried fifteen year mandatory minimums. But he was found guilty
Speaker 7: on two counts of transportation to engage in prostitution. These
Speaker 7: were four, one for a woman who was pseudent into Jane,
Speaker 7: and one for his former partner, Cassie Ventura. So you know,
Speaker 7: this is not what people who understand the case had
Speaker 7: hoped entirely, right, Like, this is not ideal. It's not nothing,
Speaker 7: but it's not ideal. Now if you look, can't like
Speaker 7: why did this happen?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 7: Why didn't he get convicted on these higher charges he
Speaker 7: was absolutely guilty of And it's because the prosecutors fucked up. Right,
Speaker 7: there were a number of different felony charges they could
Speaker 7: have gone after him for that were less difficult to
Speaker 7: prove than racketeering and sex trafficking. And did he had
Speaker 7: good lawyers?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 7: And there's a lot of weird miss about like, well,
Speaker 7: they didn't go after him for the guns and drugs
Speaker 7: that he had both at his properties, or for a
Speaker 7: number of the other things that they could have done
Speaker 7: after him. You know, this is because prosecutors have to
Speaker 7: make choices as to like what to charge someone with,
Speaker 7: and they've tried for some of the harder stuff that
Speaker 7: was always going to be a little more difficult to prove. Now,
Speaker 7: the two charges he's been convicted on, he could do
Speaker 7: up to twenty years. Each has up to a maximum
Speaker 7: ten year sentence, so he could get sentenced to do
Speaker 7: ten years for each. Prosecutors have said that they're looking
Speaker 7: for a four to five year prison sentence, which I
Speaker 7: think is much too light. Twenty years would be I
Speaker 7: would say, like, okay, that's a serious punishment. Anything over it,
Speaker 7: you know, ten years or over I would say, that's
Speaker 7: still at least, you know, we can say it's not
Speaker 7: all the things he should have been convicted on, but
Speaker 7: that's not you can't. No one's going to spit it
Speaker 7: ten years in prison, especially at his age. He's in
Speaker 7: his mid fifties right now. But four or five years,
Speaker 7: you know, I wouldn't quite say that's a slap on
Speaker 7: the wrist, but it's not nearly what is deserved here
Speaker 7: right now, You do with federal sentences like this tend
Speaker 7: to serve a lot more of this. This is not
Speaker 7: a hope and he'll be out in a year kind
Speaker 7: of situation. One of the things that's kind of worth
Speaker 7: noting here is that he and his team did ask
Speaker 7: for bail while he waited for because next week he's
Speaker 7: going they're going to like set up when he's going
Speaker 7: to get sentenced, right, So that doesn't mean he'll be
Speaker 7: sentenced next week, but they'll be scheduling as sentencing next week.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 7: The legal system moves pretty slow, and his team asked
Speaker 7: for bail. There's evidence that he had people like setting
Speaker 7: up getting extra security up around his primary home, and
Speaker 7: they were kind of expecting him to be able to
Speaker 7: go home today. That's not going to happen. The judge
Speaker 7: has denied his bail. This is after one of his
Speaker 7: accusers basically said, hey, I think this guy is really dangerous.
Speaker 7: He has a history of going after his accusers. I
Speaker 7: don't feel safe with them out, you know, before sentencing,
Speaker 7: And that's maybe a good sign that maybe the judge
Speaker 7: will go further than the prosecutor, So I don't know
Speaker 7: if that's likely. Again, I'll be like, Okay, well, at
Speaker 7: least this is serious if he gets ten years or
Speaker 7: something like that. If it is four or five, I'm
Speaker 7: going to be pretty frustrated. But you know that's the case.
Speaker 7: This is we are talking about a billionaire going to
Speaker 7: core here, so any serious prison sentence is more than
Speaker 7: you usually would expect. And this is a guy who's
Speaker 7: been used to living with kind of impunity for a while.
Speaker 7: And if he spends years in prison either way, it's
Speaker 7: not totally impunity. But yeah, not ideal. That's the situation
Speaker 7: as it stands right now with p Didty. You know,
Speaker 7: we'll see again next week. They're going to schedule his sentencing,
Speaker 7: so yeah, we'll see how things shake out.
Speaker 2: Now will pass over to me to discuss our second
Speaker 2: main story this episode, the formerly named One Big Beautiful Bill.
Speaker 3: Oh God, So actually reading through this, I refuse to
Speaker 3: call this anything other than the genocide budget, because this budget,
Speaker 3: what is designed to do is a genocide and that's
Speaker 3: not an exaggeration.
Speaker 2: Well, there's multiple types of killing included in this bill,
Speaker 2: not just genocide. Yeah, the medicare cuts, I think that's true.
Speaker 2: Aren't aren't technically genocide, but they but they could lead
Speaker 2: to mass death, So we should be we should be inclusive.
Speaker 2: We should be inclusive of all the types of death.
Speaker 2: I think we'll get into the medicaid shit later. We
Speaker 2: need to start with the mass deportation. We want to
Speaker 2: do an ethnic cleansing. We want you to just simply wipe
Speaker 2: out entire people as you live in the US and
Speaker 2: like fucking depots them from this country. Right, And by we,
Speaker 2: you mean the bill, not you Mia Wan or US
Speaker 2: cool Zone media.
Speaker 3: Yeah no, bye yeah, bye bye bye. We I mean
Speaker 3: the Republican Party who fucking wrote this bill?
Speaker 2: Okay, just checking?
Speaker 3: So, okay, what is actually in this So there's a
Speaker 3: very good writeup of this from the American Immigration Council
Speaker 3: and a lot of the stuff is from there. Okay.
Speaker 3: So across homeland security and government affairs, the judiciary and
Speaker 3: the military. The version of the budget that just passed
Speaker 3: the Senate allocates one hundred and seventy billion dollars to
Speaker 3: their fucking unhinged deportation shit. This would be the third
Speaker 3: largest military budget in the world. It is thirty percent
Speaker 3: larger than the military budget of Russia, which is currently
Speaker 3: fighting an active, full scale ground war. Right, this is
Speaker 3: a genocide budget. They are trying to get one hundred
Speaker 3: and seventy billion dollars for all of the board enforcement
Speaker 3: shit because they want to do a genocide. They're trying
Speaker 3: to remove entire people from the United States, and to
Speaker 3: do that they need this kind of money. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: let's let's let's break down a little bit of where
Speaker 3: this money's fucking going. We're gonna do a longer thing.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a longer episode about this thing, probably Tuesday,
Speaker 3: like everything that's in this budget, But this needs to
Speaker 3: be understood. They are running forty five billion dollars specifically
Speaker 3: for immigration detention, and, as the American Immigration Council points out,
Speaker 3: that is at minimum five and a half billion more
Speaker 3: dollars per year than the entire budget of the entire
Speaker 3: federal prison system. Yeah, what the shit. That's again at minimum,
Speaker 3: that's it's like fourteen it's like fourteen and a half
Speaker 3: billion at minimum for detention, just just from mgration attention. Again, significantly,
Speaker 3: like over fifty percent larger than the budget for the
Speaker 3: fucking entire federal prison system. They want to put into
Speaker 3: this they're also giving out three point five billion dollars
Speaker 3: to state in local government spent on working with ICE.
Speaker 3: The American Imgress Council estimates this could be one hundred
Speaker 3: and twenty five thousand holding beds for people, which is
Speaker 3: and I quote, only just a bit below the current
Speaker 3: population of the entire federal prison system.
Speaker 2: They basically want to create a whole new prison system
Speaker 2: just for immigrants.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, and again and again, and I cannot emphasize
Speaker 3: this enough. The United States has one of the largest
Speaker 3: prison systems on Earth, and they want to the the largest.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's technically smaller than the Chinese.
Speaker 3: Ah, actually, let me let let me ask you the
Speaker 3: numbers up. Yeah, I think it's technically for America per capita. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like it's like there's like no contest. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 3: the statistics are weird because there's countries that have like
Speaker 3: a really really small number of people sure like in
Speaker 3: terms of like large countries, for major countries, for major companies,
Speaker 3: not even close. Yeah, not even close. And then now
Speaker 3: obviously that's also kind of like state prisons, but like
Speaker 3: still with the far federal prisons and is still like
Speaker 3: unfathomably massive. Yeah, and they basically want to double the
Speaker 3: size of its specifically just to fucking do this, just
Speaker 3: just to do these deportations. There's thirty billion dollars in
Speaker 3: this for direct deportations and just like the higher ten
Speaker 3: thousands more ice agents.
Speaker 2: Which Trump's also been calling for in executive orders.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is forty eight billion dollars for building the
Speaker 3: wall and like border infl like physical border enforcement infrastructure.
Speaker 3: There's an additional five billion dollars for checkpoints and like
Speaker 3: like border patrol, like facilities, not posts, and shit. There's
Speaker 3: also about fifteen billion dollars for states to do deportation. Shit.
Speaker 3: There's so much unhinged anti immigrant shit in this bill
Speaker 3: that like, again, I can't, We don't have time to
Speaker 3: get into it here. This is going to be a
Speaker 3: full episode on fucking Tuesday.
Speaker 2: This is why you have people like Steven Miller trying
Speaker 2: to rally the whole party in support of this bill,
Speaker 2: which massively raises the deficit, something that Elon's been complaining
Speaker 2: about quite famously.
Speaker 3: Yeah, five trillion dollars hole in the budget. It doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: Now, there's all these Republican congressmen who constantly complain about
Speaker 2: the federal debt. Who are totally fine increasing the federal
Speaker 2: debt massively? People compromising their fiscal conservatism in support of
Speaker 2: a bill that furthers the United States as a white
Speaker 2: supremacist penal colony and at the senator's in congressmen vote
Speaker 2: against it, then that will be used against them in
Speaker 2: future elections. Being flanked from further on the right with
Speaker 2: attack ads claiming that the Senators failed to round up
Speaker 2: the illegals in not voting for the big, beautiful budget bill.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I.
Speaker 3: Want to point this out, like they're not gonna stop
Speaker 3: at immigrants. I need to make this incredibly clear.
Speaker 2: Once you have this infrastructure, you have to use it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Look like the people on the on, like
Speaker 3: the furthest left of the US have talked about for
Speaker 3: a long time, but this is a country that is
Speaker 3: built on genocide, right, This is an apparatus that is
Speaker 3: designed to turn the US specifically into a machine to
Speaker 3: and again, and I need to point this out. The
Speaker 3: definition of genocide includes like like removing people from a place, Yeah, right,
Speaker 3: Like that is a genocide if you force a bunch
Speaker 3: of people to if you fucking round them up, put
Speaker 3: them into camps, and then fucking send them somewhere else.
Speaker 3: That's a genocide. That is what they are trying to do.
Speaker 3: Like Laura Lumer has been talking today about like the
Speaker 3: number she was citing was sixty five million people, which
Speaker 3: is just every Latino person in the entire US.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's Latino people. That's what she's talking.
Speaker 2: About, specifically talking about how she wants to feed them
Speaker 2: to alligators, which we'll talk about later.
Speaker 1: Yes, the context of the number was feeding them to alligators.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, right, So, like Trump has been joking for
Speaker 3: a long time about how if Stephen Miller got his way,
Speaker 3: there would be like one hundred and fifteen million people
Speaker 3: in this custry and they would all look like Stephen Miller,
Speaker 3: that's where they're going. And that's not like, oh this
Speaker 3: is blah blah blah. You're like, this is the infrastructure
Speaker 3: for them to be able to do this. And so like,
Speaker 3: killing this fucking bill is unbelievably important. We're gonna get
Speaker 3: into more of the fucking unhint shit in here, but
Speaker 3: like they only passed it by one vote in the
Speaker 3: House last time. Yeah, and because of the way that
Speaker 3: that reconciliation works, right, If anything changes in the House
Speaker 3: version of the bill, it has to go back to
Speaker 3: the Senate, where they also only barely passed it by
Speaker 3: like buying off Susan Collins.
Speaker 2: It was a fifty to fifty split. Yeah, in the Senate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, with like Makowski voting for it for example.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, like you know, on the one hand, being
Speaker 3: able to pass this bill is precarious. On the other hand,
Speaker 3: if they do it, that limits the window for which
Speaker 3: we have to like make ice nonfunctional a lot because
Speaker 3: as they ramp up this capacity, it's gonna take them
Speaker 3: a while to ramp up this capacity, right, even if
Speaker 3: this passes. But like they haven't had the capacity to
Speaker 3: do the genocide they've been trying to do, right, this
Speaker 3: will give it to them with this, with this amount
Speaker 3: of resources. Yeah, with the third largest military budget in
Speaker 3: the world, they can do this kind of shit and
Speaker 3: we have to stop them before they get there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like this is one of those call everyone you
Speaker 1: can in Congress situations like not always a big collyer
Speaker 1: rep person.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're going to get to at the end of this,
Speaker 3: like how we've actually met it. We've gotten provisions killed
Speaker 3: from this bill already. We're gonna get to that later.
Speaker 3: We also need to talk about the Medicaid shit because Garrison,
Speaker 3: you were saying, oh, I don't think this can be
Speaker 3: considered the genocide, but it's so killing. I actually disagree
Speaker 3: with that, because, Okay, let's explain what's going on with Medicaid.
Speaker 3: They want to do a trillion dollars of cuts. I
Speaker 3: think it's like just slightly under a trillion, or maybe
Speaker 3: it's actually a trillion dollars of cuts over the next
Speaker 3: ten years to Medicaid. They want to put an eighty
Speaker 3: hour a month work requirement from Medicaid and food stamps. Now,
Speaker 3: if you are disabled, right, this is just like a
Speaker 3: fuck you die proposal because there are a lot of
Speaker 3: people who fucking can't work eighty hours in more, and
Speaker 3: this is just like literally eat shit and die.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: They're also expanding this shit the work requirements to well,
Speaker 3: they want these work requirements to apply to people who
Speaker 3: have children ages thirteen and older. So if you are
Speaker 3: trying to raise a child, fuck you, eat shit and die.
Speaker 3: And again, also like this is both Medicaid and SNAP,
Speaker 3: so this is a targeted the estimates by the CBO.
Speaker 3: This is your PBS. The Correctional Bunchet Office estimates that
Speaker 3: it will by twenty thirty four, eighteen point eight million
Speaker 3: people will be uninsured from this. It will get three
Speaker 3: million people off of food stamps. Like, a lot of
Speaker 3: those people are just going to be disabled, and unbelievable
Speaker 3: numbers people of those people are going to fucking die.
Speaker 3: And that's the point of this right. Also, it's going
Speaker 3: to be just hideous for trans people who use Medicaid
Speaker 3: and SNAP at enormous rates, because disabled and trans people
Speaker 3: are like the two poorest populations in the US. It's
Speaker 3: fucking hideous.
Speaker 2: These systems are already so hard to get in on
Speaker 2: and stay on, like both, like both SNAP and Medicaid,
Speaker 2: requires substantial revisions and reforms to make them easier to access.
Speaker 2: To strengthen the infrastructure capacity of these things to get
Speaker 2: more people on them, they need more funding. This is
Speaker 2: basically trying to take an already kind of dying system
Speaker 2: and just take it out of back and shoot it
Speaker 2: in the head.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, well, and they intentionally just want it to
Speaker 3: be like harder and more frustrating and shitty to use,
Speaker 3: Like they literally rolled back that part of this bill
Speaker 3: is rolling back a bunch of reforms that Biden made
Speaker 3: to make it like slightly easier to get on. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and this is just going like, yeah, fuck you. This
Speaker 3: is going to be an absolute fucking catastrophe, not just
Speaker 3: because of the people that it immediately affects, although it
Speaker 3: is again going to kill unbelievable numbers of people. The
Speaker 3: other thing with this is that this is going to
Speaker 3: fucking annihilate rural hospitals because rural hospitals get a huge
Speaker 3: amount of their money for Medicaid. And you know, there's
Speaker 3: a very good Kiser Family Foundation report where they talk
Speaker 3: about how like, yeah, one in four people in rural
Speaker 3: areas get their health insurance from Medicaid, and it's estimated
Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty five billion dollars decrease in in
Speaker 3: in money to hospitals and rural regions over the course
Speaker 3: of a decade. Those hospitals are already closing. Those hospitals
Speaker 3: are fucking gone. Like the if this, if this fucking
Speaker 3: passes as is, and there is a provision in there
Speaker 3: I that's like, oh, we're gonna spend fifty billion dollars
Speaker 3: on like to give money to royal hospitals that's not enough.
Speaker 3: That's like, that's a third of the amount that they're
Speaker 3: getting cut by, right, Like and even and even if
Speaker 3: those hospitals are open, how the fuck are people going
Speaker 3: to pay for the treatment because they're now kickoff of Medicaid.
Speaker 3: But this is going to fucking just absolutely eviscerate, like
Speaker 3: the tiny remains of our rural health care system, which
Speaker 3: is a complete fucking shymbalic mess. This is just going
Speaker 3: to fucking liquidate. It is going to cause mass suffering
Speaker 3: and death on a scale that like we are going
Speaker 3: to look back at the height of the opioid crisis
Speaker 3: and like in fucking nostalgia because we're going to have
Speaker 3: the opioid crisis and this at the same time. So
Speaker 3: it's real, real, fucking bad. I'm gonna mention a couple
Speaker 3: of other things that are in it. So, like, there's
Speaker 3: two points to this bill, right. One of the two
Speaker 3: points of it is to do is to again just
Speaker 3: like ethnically cleanse every non white person from the US.
Speaker 3: The second point of this bill is to give corporations
Speaker 3: four point five trillion dollars in tax cuts. It's mostly
Speaker 3: for rich people. That shit sucks. That's like the buy
Speaker 3: in for like the business people is you get these
Speaker 3: tax cuts. They also want to end the tax credit
Speaker 3: for electric cars because their response to climate change is
Speaker 3: fuck you die now Again, as I mentioned, this only
Speaker 3: passed in the House by one vote last time, and
Speaker 3: that was actually a less extreme version of them. Well, okay,
Speaker 3: there were some there's some more onion shit in it
Speaker 3: that we'll talk about in the other episode in the
Speaker 3: House version of it. But this only passed in the
Speaker 3: House by one vote, and it only passed by one
Speaker 3: vote because three Democrats died in office.
Speaker 1: Great system, it's great.
Speaker 3: So things going great. However, Comma, it is possible to like, like,
Speaker 3: it is possible to beat these people. It is possible
Speaker 3: to get shit cut from this fucking bill. To end
Speaker 3: on a positive note on this, we talked a bit
Speaker 3: last we maybe.
Speaker 2: Last week, two weeks ago, one recent executive disorder.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we were talked about, I think it's on two different
Speaker 3: months now about how we beat the fucking ban on
Speaker 3: using Medicaid for trans healthcare. And by we, I mean
Speaker 3: a combination of trans journalists like Maddie Castigan, Bia Levine,
Speaker 3: David Forbes, or like resident trans policy analyst Kurvin Green
Speaker 3: I did some work on it, like a huge amount,
Speaker 3: but like I don't know, like a little bit. A
Speaker 3: lot of like local queer orgs did a bunch of
Speaker 3: really good work on this, and like quite frankly, like
Speaker 3: the other people who killed this, as every single one
Speaker 3: of you who like fucking called and emailed in harass
Speaker 3: Senator like Ron Whiten, there was like there was there
Speaker 3: was there was queer orgs like lobbying him directly, and
Speaker 3: then also his office got fucking flooded by shit from
Speaker 3: like you who went and like screamed at them until
Speaker 3: they stopped doing this. And because of that, we got
Speaker 3: this thing killed from the fucking bill. And the Republicans
Speaker 3: are so mad about it that like they could theoretically
Speaker 3: re add it to the House one and there is
Speaker 3: a chance where they get so mad that they re
Speaker 3: add this to the House bill, And then that caused
Speaker 3: House buil to fail in the Senate because if they
Speaker 3: readd this into the House build then reconciliation fails and
Speaker 3: they had to go back to the Senate again. So
Speaker 3: you know, it is possible to fucking beat these people.
Speaker 3: And it's also important to understand that this was not
Speaker 3: done by like the giant national like gating, like huge
Speaker 3: nonprofit like Human Rights Commission, bullshit council stuff. They did
Speaker 3: a little bit of stuff on the fucking trailing end.
Speaker 3: This was accomplished almost entirely by a combination of non
Speaker 3: white and working class trans journalists and organizers and just
Speaker 3: like a bunch of random fucking people who were like,
Speaker 3: each shit, fuck you get this out and you know,
Speaker 3: on a thing that would have killed unbelievable numbers of
Speaker 3: trans people. We fought the Republican Party and we beat them.
Speaker 3: So this can be done. And this bill is not
Speaker 3: guaranteed to fucking pass. The bill can still be it
Speaker 3: can still be killed. Yeah, yeah, like it is. It is.
Speaker 3: It is devastating enough to like rural healthcare that even
Speaker 3: Republican senators are talking about not wanting to cut dedicaide.
Speaker 2: So it's a very unpopular bill. And when you tell
Speaker 2: just regular Republicans about the details of the bill, they
Speaker 2: don't like it. You can hit they're being like the
Speaker 2: Republican media machine is being so selective and how they're
Speaker 2: talking about the bill. Yep, because if you discuss the
Speaker 2: way that it just rips the heart out of medicaid.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not what most older Republicans want because they
Speaker 2: actually also rely on medicaid. So it's a It is
Speaker 2: a pretty unpopular bill, and the more people learn about
Speaker 2: the bill, the more they dislike it. And you can
Speaker 2: you can see stats on this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and the unhinge thing about this, right is that
Speaker 3: even with limited information most Republicans have about this, it
Speaker 3: still has like a twenty to thirty percent approval rating.
Speaker 3: It's so unpopular even in the low information environment we're
Speaker 3: currently in. It it's like a twenty to thirty percent
Speaker 3: of proof rating. I think if everyone actually understood what
Speaker 3: was in the bill, I think it's proove rating would
Speaker 3: fucking drop even further. Yeah, nobody wants this, except except
Speaker 3: for like the overt genocide people.
Speaker 1: So most people, if they're out personally harm, will know
Speaker 1: someone who's being personally harmed.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Do you know what is popular, James uh? I can
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Speaker 3: Oh you know what else is extremely popular? It is
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Speaker 2: Mia what do we have for tariff talk this week?
Speaker 3: So this is an important week for tariffs. Next week
Speaker 3: will be the really really critical one. So next allegedly, allegedly,
Speaker 3: we'll see he's skeptical. So so next week, all of
Speaker 3: the tariffs on every other country in the world from
Speaker 3: the Liberation Day tarif tariffs are supposed to like come off.
Speaker 3: We're gonna see what happens. I've I've become. It could happen.
Speaker 3: Here's biggest tariff denier. I'm the tariff denier, conspiracy theorist. Well,
Speaker 3: so here's the Okay, So, so the Trump Mistration is
Speaker 3: claiming that they cut a deal with Vietnam again as
Speaker 3: a kind of recording on Wednesday. I haven't actually seen
Speaker 3: anything from like Vietnam confirming this. It's just where about
Speaker 3: it's totally real. Who fucking knows. So the deal that
Speaker 3: he's saying is that Vietnam is going to levy or
Speaker 3: you actually going to levy a twenty percent tariff on
Speaker 3: all goods from Vietnam and a forty percent tariff on
Speaker 3: goods that are produced elsewhere and moved through Vietnam. Now,
Speaker 3: I know we're all used to like looking at like
Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty percent tariffs. But I cannot emphasize
Speaker 3: enough that a like a twenty percent terariffs on good
Speaker 3: on goods from Vietnam is also just fucking ruinous. Most
Speaker 3: tariff coverage on Vietnam focuses on the fact that like
Speaker 3: companies like Nintendo, for example, deliberately move production to Vietnam
Speaker 3: to avoid tariffs on China. Now coverage is like this
Speaker 3: because all of these people fucking learned about Vietnam producing
Speaker 3: things like a week ago, they missed a decade of
Speaker 3: capital flight along. I mean it's a decade and a
Speaker 3: half released like twenty and eleven. A bunch of tradese
Speaker 3: capital has been flowing into Vietnam like down the maycont delta.
Speaker 3: So these tariffs are not just affecting the ability of
Speaker 3: China to evade the tariffs on it by like moving
Speaker 3: probably to other countries, which has been a lot of
Speaker 3: what's been keeping the inflation from just fucking exploding has
Speaker 3: been the ability of producers throughout goods through places like Vietnam.
Speaker 3: This is also hitting one of the world's largest manufacturing
Speaker 3: hubs right and at developing manufacturing hub that has very
Speaker 3: good infrastructure et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. That capital
Speaker 3: from China had been moving to this is still even
Speaker 3: this twenty percent tariff on Vietnam is like catastrophic. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens next week if the rest
Speaker 3: of the turf tariffs kick in. I don't know what's
Speaker 3: going to happen. Who fucking knows. I've been leaning towards
Speaker 3: I think they will. But yeah, even this stuff is
Speaker 3: really fucking bad and we're gonna start seeing the impacts
Speaker 3: of it. But yeah, this has been tariff talk.
Speaker 2: There's there's enough skepticism in the market about the tariffs
Speaker 2: in general that so far, not not not all, but
Speaker 2: most corporations have been eating the tariffs in the short term,
Speaker 2: not all like famously, like like like Walmart like has
Speaker 2: been has been raising some prices, but a bunch of
Speaker 2: corporations have been eating the eating the costs because they
Speaker 2: do not think these will these will be largely effective
Speaker 2: like long term, and I mean this will slowly change,
Speaker 2: especially as as more of these start like being taken
Speaker 2: into effect on like a rolling basis. We'll probably see
Speaker 2: corporations adjust to this, and we'll see the market adjust
Speaker 2: to this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think.
Speaker 2: That's that's part of why maybe people haven't been seeing
Speaker 2: the massive price hikes that were expected back, you know,
Speaker 2: like two months ago. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, and I think also again the important thing here
Speaker 3: is what this is going to do to logistics firms
Speaker 3: which have very very low margins and right now they've
Speaker 3: been surviving by just running shit through other places. But
Speaker 3: like again, if this is if twenty percent is the
Speaker 3: rate Vietnam plus there's now a massive vicent of not
Speaker 3: to run goods through Vietnam. That's really bad because that
Speaker 3: like kneecaps, the evasion tools people have been using. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wait for me and come into place.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 3: So fucking god.
Speaker 2: Florida's new immigration detention center has opened this Wednesday. It's
Speaker 2: built on a remote airport with aircraft hangars outfitted with
Speaker 2: cages and bunk beds to incarcerate between three to five
Speaker 2: thousand people. The facility is surrounded by a mote of
Speaker 2: alligators and python snakes. They're calling it to Alligator Alcatraz.
Speaker 2: It was designed to be the most efficient deportation machine
Speaker 2: in the country. National Guard members will act as immigration
Speaker 2: judges on site to speed up deportation proceedings. I'm going
Speaker 2: to play a short clip here apologize for hearing DeSantis.
Speaker 6: I mean, this is gonna be Illegals will come in,
Speaker 6: they'll be pri there'll be places for them to be housed.
Speaker 6: You'll have an ability for food. You'll be an ability
Speaker 6: for them to consult legal rights if they have that,
Speaker 6: because there is a process that's involved with this.
Speaker 2: So the Florida Attorney General has called this a quote
Speaker 2: one stop shop for immigration enforcement. Come in, get your process,
Speaker 2: and fly out unquote Jesus. So immigrants will be flown here.
Speaker 2: They will have some degree of due process here, not
Speaker 2: really real due process, but enough nope to fast track
Speaker 2: their deportation. Stay basically at this facility like less than
Speaker 2: a week, and get deported from it. It has a
Speaker 2: working airport. They want to start running thousands of people
Speaker 2: through his facility basically every week. Trump toured the facility
Speaker 2: on Tuesday and he said, quote Biden wanted me in here. Okay,
Speaker 2: he wanted me didn't work out that way, but he
Speaker 2: wanted me in here, that son of a bitch unquote,
Speaker 2: which is an insane thing to say, and but it
Speaker 2: gives you an actual look into why the current Trump
Speaker 2: administration and like like why Trump term two point zero
Speaker 2: is kind of different from one point no, because it's
Speaker 2: purely built on this like this like animosity. It's built
Speaker 2: on this idea that Trump thinks that the entire like
Speaker 2: entire world conspired against him to lock him up, and
Speaker 2: somehow he beat them and now he's getting his revenge
Speaker 2: on the entire world. Right, this is what's that. That's
Speaker 2: how he's governing. It's because Biden wanted to send him
Speaker 2: to the alligator Alcatraz, but he was able to beat him,
Speaker 2: and now he's going to get revenge on on everyone
Speaker 2: who's who's tried to stop him. And that's how he's
Speaker 2: running the country because that's the thing that he's obsessed with.
Speaker 2: He can't stop talking about Biden. He brings up Biden
Speaker 2: fucking every day because it's not about what Biden actually did.
Speaker 2: It's this, it's this like symbol of like everyone who
Speaker 2: has tried to like tried to beat me, everyone who's
Speaker 2: tried to like lock me up. Now now I get
Speaker 2: to take my revenge out on them. They want to
Speaker 2: disappear me to this alligator concentration camp, which no, they
Speaker 2: didn't because this thing fucking didn't exist a week ago.
Speaker 2: Like this, this facility was built in the last eight days.
Speaker 2: It's going to cost four hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: annually to operate. I remember when I went to the
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk event in Atlanta, they're talking about like how
Speaker 2: much money we're spending to give immigrants like free cell
Speaker 2: phones and to give them housing. Meanwhile, you have not
Speaker 2: only this bill that massively, massively increases the deficit in
Speaker 2: ways we've never seen before. Plus on the local level,
Speaker 2: you have four hundred million dollars a year for these
Speaker 2: deportation facilities. And this facility specifically built on the Florida Everglades.
Speaker 2: It's not hurricane proof. Of course, after one day of operating,
Speaker 2: they've already had flooding issues. This is an incredibly dangerous facility.
Speaker 2: It could lead to a natural disaster, could kill thousands
Speaker 2: of people here. And currently the State of Florida is
Speaker 2: selling alligator Alcatraz merchandise on their website, so always a
Speaker 2: grift as well, so you can get deeperation merchandise, you
Speaker 2: can get concentration camp merchandise, this is the this is
Speaker 2: the soul of the of the Republican Party. For our
Speaker 2: last main story tonight, let's talk about how Trump and
Speaker 2: the Democrats are trying to stop the domentum. Because ranked
Speaker 2: choice voting has now been completed, Zoron has defeated Cuomo
Speaker 2: fifty six to forty four, twelve points which were tallied
Speaker 2: in just the third round of ranked choice voting. The
Speaker 2: other talies will come out like eventually, but this is
Speaker 2: like the last like legitimate tally because of like the
Speaker 2: elimination rules. Zoron got one hundred and fifty thousand more
Speaker 2: votes than Eric Adams one with in twenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: like phenomenal Sweep's all, it's wild, like we've never seen
Speaker 2: anything like this.
Speaker 3: Coffy summer baby, let's go so.
Speaker 2: Republican Representative Andy Ogles of Tennessee sent a letter to
Speaker 2: Attorney General Pam Bondi asking to investigate Momdanni for denaturalization
Speaker 2: on the grounds that he obtained citizenship through misrepers sentation
Speaker 2: or concealing material support for terrorism. I'm going to read
Speaker 2: this disgusting quote from Ogles because I think people should
Speaker 2: hear it. Quote Zoron little Mohammeddani is an anti Semitic
Speaker 2: socialist communist, will destroy the great City of New York.
Speaker 2: He needs to be deported, which is why I'm calling
Speaker 2: for him to be the subject to denaturalization proceedings.
Speaker 1: This is a guy who would be petrified if he
Speaker 1: ever had to walk around New York because seeing brown
Speaker 1: people is very scary when you know this kind of person.
Speaker 2: Zoron's been facing this huge wave of egregious, like islamophobic attacks,
Speaker 2: including from the gimas of his own party, YEP. On
Speaker 2: a radio show, Democrat New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand falsely
Speaker 2: claimed that Mamdani had made references in support of quote
Speaker 2: unquote global jihad outrageous stuffy. On Monday, she apologized for
Speaker 2: these comments in a private call to Mamdani and expressed
Speaker 2: that she believes that Zoron is sincere when he says
Speaker 2: he wants to protect all New Yorkers in combat anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: But fucking, fucking gross stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it was so hideous, It's like two thousand
Speaker 3: and three level. It's it's yeah, it's really bad.
Speaker 1: Wait, you know, it's considerably worse than that, like like
Speaker 1: Bush gave the islamis the Fabric of America speech in
Speaker 1: two thousand and one. Yeah, like we now have Democrats
Speaker 1: just knee jerking to fuck them all their terrorists.
Speaker 2: Like in their own party, and like many top New
Speaker 2: York Democrats have still refused to endorse the now like
Speaker 2: democratic nominee, including Governor Kathy Hochel, House Minority Leader Hakim
Speaker 2: Jeffries and Soadather Chuck Schumer. Jeffries posted in support of
Speaker 2: him today.
Speaker 1: I believe some of them have.
Speaker 2: Expressed like support of him, specifically support against Islama public attacks,
Speaker 2: but have explicitly refused to endorse him. It as a nominee,
Speaker 2: which is like it's vote blue no matter who, until
Speaker 2: you have like a Muslim Democratic socialist, and it's like
Speaker 2: we have to discuss, like, you know, there's some we
Speaker 2: have some skeptical things about his candidacy and to keep
Speaker 2: New Yorker safe.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh boy, yeah, yeah, you've voted for the
Speaker 1: three people who die. You endorsed the three people who
Speaker 1: died in office. I guess like since the last election
Speaker 1: in the House.
Speaker 2: Now the attacks have continued. On Monday, Fox News reporter
Speaker 2: Peter Doocey asked White House Pressecretary Caroline Levitt about deporting Zoran.
Speaker 2: Let's play the clip, Peter, thank you, Caroline.
Speaker 8: Does President Trump want Zoran Mam Donnie deported.
Speaker 9: I haven't heard him say that. I haven't heard him
Speaker 9: call for that, but certainly he does not want this
Speaker 9: individual to be elected. I was just speaking to him
Speaker 9: about it and his radical policies that will completely crush
Speaker 9: New York City, which is obviously a city that the
Speaker 9: President holds near and dear to his heart.
Speaker 8: There's this Congressman Annie Ogles. He wants the Attorney General
Speaker 8: Bondi to explore denaturalization proceedings because he thinks Mom Donnie
Speaker 8: could have misrepresented or concealed material support for tear based
Speaker 8: on rap lyrics. He wrote in twenty seventeen. Does President
Speaker 8: Trump think this is a worthwhile use of the Attorney
Speaker 8: General's time?
Speaker 9: Well, I'll let the President speak to that. I have
Speaker 9: not seen those claims, but surely if they are true,
Speaker 9: it's something that should be investigated.
Speaker 1: It's ridiculous to suggest that you could wrap your material
Speaker 1: support for terrorism. Then they have to prove that you
Speaker 1: materially supportated group which is listed as a FTO.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Then on Tuesday day later, Trump himself attacked Zoran, threatening
Speaker 2: to arrest him if he interferes with ICE.
Speaker 10: Your blood New York City may well be led by
Speaker 10: a communist soon, Zorhan Mundami, who in his nomination speech
Speaker 10: said he will defy ICE and will not allow ICE
Speaker 10: to arrest criminal aliens in New York City. Your message
Speaker 10: to communist Zorhan Mundami, Well, then we'll have.
Speaker 5: To arrest him. Look, we don't need a communist in
Speaker 5: this country, but if we have one, I'm going to
Speaker 5: be watching over them very carefully on behalf.
Speaker 3: Of the nation.
Speaker 2: Later, Trump suggested that Zorn quote unquote, maybe here illegally
Speaker 2: and that the Trump administration would be looking into that,
Speaker 2: while in the same clip praising the now independent nominee
Speaker 2: and current Mayor Eric Adams.
Speaker 5: Independent running Mayor Adams, who's a very good person. I
Speaker 5: helped him out a little bit. He had a problem
Speaker 5: and he was unfairly hurt over this question. He made
Speaker 5: a statement to the effect that this is terrible New
Speaker 5: York City. Can't have all these immigrants come in. And
Speaker 5: like he was indicted the following.
Speaker 2: Day, justly admitting to corruption in collision. He had a
Speaker 2: little problem and I helped him out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, just a little problem with accepting massive payments
Speaker 1: from Turkey to fucking corrupt his whole city.
Speaker 3: And I want to say here too, like I was
Speaker 3: watching just like Trump openly targeting Tom Donnie, like all
Speaker 3: of the Democrats who are attacking him are just on
Speaker 3: the side of Trump. And this has been a significant
Speaker 3: problem in the entire administration is that one of Trump's
Speaker 3: like core basis of support is like sitting democratic fucking legislatures.
Speaker 3: It's like fucking Chuck Schumer. Yeah, like all of these people.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're working with Trump rhetorically on all.
Speaker 3: Of this and sometimes literally with like Schumer voting for
Speaker 3: the original like budget resolution shit. Like they're just they're
Speaker 3: just actively collaborating.
Speaker 2: On Tuesdays or unreleased to statement regarding Trump's comments saying, quote,
Speaker 2: the President of the United States just threatened to have
Speaker 2: me arrested, stripped of my citizenship, and put in a
Speaker 2: detention camp and deport it not because they've broken any law,
Speaker 2: but because I will refuse to let Ice terrorize our city.
Speaker 2: His statements don't just represent an attack on our democracy,
Speaker 2: but an attempts to send a message to every New
Speaker 2: Yorker who refuses to hide in the shadows. If you
Speaker 2: speak up, they will come for you. We will not
Speaker 2: accept this intimidation. That Trump included praise for Eric Adams
Speaker 2: and his authoritarian threats is unsurprising but highlights the urgency
Speaker 2: of bringing an end to this mayor's time in city
Speaker 2: Hall at the very moment when mega Republicans are attempting
Speaker 2: to destroy the social safety Net, take millions of New
Speaker 2: Yorkers off healthcare, and enrich their billionaire donors at the
Speaker 2: expensive working families. It is a scandal that Eric Adams
Speaker 2: echoes this president's division distraction and hate voters will resoundingly
Speaker 2: reject it. In November, Unquote and former mayor of Build
Speaker 2: a Blasio came out in support of Zoran, saying quote,
Speaker 2: Donald Trump will have to go through a lot of
Speaker 2: us first. If he wants to arrest a or on
Speaker 2: Mom Donnie. We New Yorkers will put a human shield
Speaker 2: around him if we need to. No one gets to
Speaker 2: intimidate us.
Speaker 3: Build a Blasio. If you get arrested doing the human shield,
Speaker 3: will we will forgive you for one of your many crimes. Yeah,
Speaker 3: one to cry off for rest.
Speaker 2: Bill, Good for Bill, But no, everyone needs to do this,
Speaker 2: Like everyone needs to get behind him right now if
Speaker 2: he's gonna be the target of this like denaturalization, push no,
Speaker 2: fuck this. Yeah, if he becomes like the symbol of
Speaker 2: everything that Trump hates, like democrats need to fall in
Speaker 2: line fucking right now. And you can't be attacking this
Speaker 2: guy for like innate asamophobia. It's it's it's outrageous.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He also has made one of the funniest music
Speaker 1: videos I have ever seen.
Speaker 2: There's some good stuff.
Speaker 1: It's video about how much he loves his grandmother with
Speaker 1: Mada Jeoffrey, and it is outstanding.
Speaker 2: Now, we do have some good news to close this
Speaker 2: episode on, including the return of the stinky musk segment.
Speaker 2: In Pennsylvania, Tesla turned into train tracks and drove into
Speaker 2: an un drove into an oncoming train. It's okay, people
Speaker 2: were able to exit the car before the grass. But
Speaker 2: great stuff, great stuff in the self driving car department.
Speaker 2: Oh good, and Trump truthed on Monday, quote Elon might
Speaker 2: get more subsidy than any human being in history by far.
Speaker 2: And without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up
Speaker 2: shop and head back home to South Africa. No more
Speaker 2: rocket lunches. Satellites are electric car production, and our country
Speaker 2: would save a fortune. Perhaps we should have Doge take
Speaker 2: a good hard look at this big money to be saved.
Speaker 2: And then, on July first, on his way to Alligator Acatraz,
Speaker 2: Trump questioned again about Elon and said, quote, We'll have
Speaker 2: to take a look. We might have to put Doge
Speaker 2: on Elon. You know what that Doge is, that monster
Speaker 2: that might have to go back and eat Elon. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: that be terrible? He gets a lot of subsidies. Elon
Speaker 2: responded to this on X the Everything app quote so
Speaker 2: tempting to escalate this so so tempting, but I will
Speaker 2: refrain for now.
Speaker 3: I will say Musk has also been talking about for
Speaker 3: me and a new party if this budget bill.
Speaker 2: Passes, so god, I hope so would be the funniest thing.
Speaker 2: What other good news do we have to end on here?
Speaker 2: I think the other good news was the the asylum
Speaker 2: van getting stopped in the coach. Oh we already did that,
Speaker 2: good news, Yeah, we already did that. Oh that that's it? Then?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm. All right, Well, people people like ED being
Speaker 2: an hour long. I've I've been told the longer the better.
Speaker 1: It's one thing they say about Ed it goes.
Speaker 2: Without saying James. We reported the news.
Speaker 8: We reported the news.
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