1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome on in Everybody, twenty twenty three 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:13,000 Speaker 1: Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: We have missed you, all of you across this great 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: land now for many days. Clan are both back with 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: you now from our respective vacations and we have a 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: ton to get to. We are looking forward to breaking 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: it all down for you today here on The Clay 9 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We will dive into this 10 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: situation in Congress right now underway as we speak, getting 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 1: new sound bites and new updates. Will Kevin McCarthy be 12 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,680 Speaker 1: the next Speaker of the House or will something else happen? 13 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: This is what is at the top of the political 14 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 1: agenda right now. We also a Clay is going to 15 00:00:55,240 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: break down what happened last night, a really gut ranching 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 1: scene from Monday night football involving a player who is 17 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 1: still in critical condition and what's going on around that. 18 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 1: A lot of the discussions, obviously a lot of prayers 19 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: up for that individual in his family. We have the 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: promise later on at some point Clay not yet disclosed 21 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 1: of the Faucci Twitter files, which I know you and 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: I are excited about, because there's a lot going on. 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Despite Faucci stepping down from the eons, he spent as 24 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: the highest paid I like to remind everybody of this, 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: the highest paid federal government employee. There are millions of 26 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: employees of the federal government. Fauci was the most highly paid. 27 00:01:43,440 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: It's not because he was such an awesome guy who 28 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: was right so much of the time. We can be 29 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: certain about that one. But there are masks returning in 30 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,160 Speaker 1: a lot of places. There's new information coming out about 31 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: the latest boosters, vaccines, etc. We will break that all 32 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,560 Speaker 1: down for you, Clay. Let's let's jump into this one, 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: because this had been building for a while. We knew 34 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: this was going to happen. We had Kevin McCarthy on 35 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: the show before the Christmas, a New Year's holiday, or 36 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: the holiday season, and he was making the case pretty 37 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: clearly on this show. If not me, then whom which 38 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: I think that there are a few different layers, a 39 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: few different points to keep in mind here, right, there's 40 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 1: the what is the goal of this? There is in 41 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,080 Speaker 1: my mind, at least you know, a little bit of shoving, 42 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: a little bit of elbowing with a new Congress after 43 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: a disappointing midterm election cycle, and I'm sure you saw 44 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:48,640 Speaker 1: there were there were breakdowns of exactly additional breakdowns of 45 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 1: why the polls were off the way that they were 46 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: and why everybody was expecting a different result looking at 47 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: the polls. But the conversation we can get into later. 48 00:02:58,120 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 1: And then there's the outside chant that this thing, I mean, 49 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: the one hundred and eighteenth Congress, with a number of 50 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: GOP holdouts, could for the first time since nineteen twenty three, 51 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: go into multiple ballots many times over this would only 52 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: have occurred I think a total of fourteen times in 53 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 1: our nation's history. Thirteen of those times happened before the 54 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: Civil War, So it's been a while. Play Are you 55 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: concerned at all that this could backfire? People are saying, 56 00:03:32,280 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, what if we ended up with a 57 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: Democrat as Speaker of the House because of this in fighting? 58 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 1: Or is this good? You gotta throw some elbows, you 59 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: gotta get the locker room a little bit there on 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: their toes. This I don't know the answer to whether 61 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: this is good or bad. It's messy, and I think 62 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: in general there's a belief that things that are messy 63 00:03:55,080 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 1: are bad, but sometimes that's not true, right, Sometimes times 64 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 1: a fight is necessary in order to get things clarified. 65 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: And so what what would be the absolute worst case 66 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: scenario is somehow Republicans so bungle this that Hakim Jeffreys, 67 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: the Democrat majority leader right now, ended up as the speaker. 68 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I find the chances. I find it inconceivable that Republicans 69 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: could be so incompetent that they could blow their majority 70 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 1: and end up with a with a sort of some 71 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: sort of middle ground where you end up with Achim 72 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: Jeffreys as the speaker. So I don't foresee that being possible, 73 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: but I am concerned that the longer this continues, the 74 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 1: more of a mess it might end up being, and 75 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,359 Speaker 1: if that were to occur, that it just makes the 76 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: Republican Party look even more incompetent. There's a lot of anger, 77 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: I think, out there over the twenty t twenty two 78 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 1: midterms and what exactly the message was and why we 79 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: only won the House and did not win the Senate, 80 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: and that I think is undergirding much of this discord 81 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 1: that right now exists in the House. I think that 82 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: that's that's why when people are asking me, they're saying, well, 83 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: what do you think of this? And it's isn't it 84 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: the the zen Master? Right? This is also remember in 85 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 1: Charlie Wilson's War, you know that gets the horse and 86 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: you know then he breaks his leg and is this 87 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: a good thing? Oh? You know, we'll see, we'll see. 88 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: Is this sensible politics? Is this a good idea for 89 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: the GOP? Right now? If it puts speaker would be 90 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 1: Speaker McCarthy on. Notice that the Freedom Caucus has some 91 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: expectations that the machinery will change a little bit. I 92 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 1: think that could be useful down the line. I also 93 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: don't want to overpromise an under deliver here for any 94 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 1: of us with what can really happen. The Democrats have 95 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: the sense, the Democrats have the presidency not changing for 96 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,359 Speaker 1: two years. The best they can do is stand athwart 97 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: the craziness and speak to the American people about what 98 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: a positive agenda would look like. Right, well, Clay, well, 99 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: what are they gonna give everybody? What are they gonna 100 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 1: do if power is given back to them in twenty 101 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:23,040 Speaker 1: twenty four? So obviously all roads now for the Republicans 102 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: lead to that decision. There are limitations. I know they're 103 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna do a lot of investigations. Some of 104 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 1: it I think is important because it's ongoing issue. Right. 105 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: For example, the COVID vaccine issue, which we'll talk about 106 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: a lot today. Looking into that is important. It's important 107 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: because I don't even know what booster we're supposed to 108 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: be getting now if we're you know, I don't even 109 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: know buck We've talked about this kind of made jokes. 110 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: I never got a shot. So if I let's presume 111 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: that suddenly doctor Fauci took control of my mind like 112 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: Jedi style, would I be supposed to go get five shots? 113 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 1: Would I have to spend the next six months like 114 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,559 Speaker 1: spacing these shots out, or could I just jump straight 115 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: to the by Valent or whatever it is Omnicron because 116 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: there's no reason to get an alpha, you know, shot 117 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: at all. Right, Fauci would tell you, Clay, you have 118 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: two arms, one for each series of three inoculations against COVID. 119 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: This is what no, I mean, it makes no sense. 120 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: None of this is adding up anymore, but it is remarkable. 121 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: I think they're the media is a little quieter about 122 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: Let's dive into some of that COVID stuff a little 123 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: bit later, because we've been shooting messages back and forth, 124 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: masks the Wall Street Journal mass making come back the 125 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal asking the question, is it possible that 126 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 1: there is a selection process being made naturally by the 127 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: virus in response to the the very rapid pace of 128 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: booster and vaccine than booster. I agree with you calling 129 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: this a vaccine is we don't call it a flu? 130 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: Actually that's it's ridiculous, and I do think the language 131 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: needs to change on that. But bring it up. Bring 132 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: us back to to the McCarthy fight for a second. May. 133 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Here is Lauren Bobert, who won a pretty stunning victory 134 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: given that she was counted counted out early on in 135 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: the vote counting process. Here is Lauren Bobert telling everybody 136 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: that she's not voting for McCarthy, and she's not the 137 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,520 Speaker 1: only one, and this thing could go to a whole 138 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:29,200 Speaker 1: bunch of votes. Play it. The deal was rejected and 139 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: as it stands, I will not be voting for Ken. 140 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: So she's not alone there, Clay. You know, Matt Gates 141 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: also coming out and saying that you don't drain the 142 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 1: swamp by filling the swamp. Something along those lines. Again, 143 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 1: I understand the anger, although let's keep in mind Republicans 144 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,080 Speaker 1: did win the House, right, So let's not create a 145 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: situation where the one thing that really other. There's Florida, 146 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 1: there's the GOP House, and there's a handful of other 147 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: things that went right, and let's not give away the 148 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:00,599 Speaker 1: things that went right because we didn't get all the 149 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: things we wanted. Yeah, and I think also it's important 150 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: to remember a lot of this is still negotiation, and 151 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: let's play cut one. Because Kevin McCarthy said, Hey, Matt 152 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:13,320 Speaker 1: Gates said he'd be okay with a Keem Jeffreys, who 153 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: is the Democrat majority leader becoming speaker. Let's listen to that. 154 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: But let's also keep in mind that that is something 155 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: you say I think that you don't actually mean. Right. 156 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: I don't believe that Matt Gates legitimately believes that or 157 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: means that. I really don't. But let's listen to this 158 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: cut one. Last night, I was presented the only way 159 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: to have two hundred and eighteen votes if I provided 160 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,240 Speaker 1: certain members with certain positions, certain gavels, to take over 161 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: the Church Committee, to have certain budgets. And they even 162 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: came to the position where one Matt Gates said, I 163 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: don't care if we go to polarality and we elect 164 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: Hakeem Jeffries and it hurts the new frontline members not 165 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: to get reelected. Well, that's not about America. And I 166 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: will always fight to put the American people first, not 167 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: a few individuals that want something for themselves. So we 168 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: may have a battle on the floor, but the battle 169 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: is for the conference and the country, and that's fine 170 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: with me. You know, Clay that they'd be in a 171 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: stronger position here, and you you and I know, and 172 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: like some of the members who are involved here, you know, 173 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: like like them on a personal level. Annapoline, a Luna 174 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: new member from from Florida who was one of the 175 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: nine who signed the letter saying, look, we're not just 176 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: going forward with McCarthy here. There's negotiation to be had, 177 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 1: we know Lauren Bobert, and there's there's obviously a handful 178 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: of others, actually more than a handful of others who 179 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: have a problem with McCarthy at this phase. Steve Scalise, 180 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: for example, he would be the alternative to McCarthy. Right, 181 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: Are you getting a different outcome really from Steve Scalise 182 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: being the Speaker of the the House than Kevin McCarthy. I 183 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: think the answer is no. And if you go then 184 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: to Stefanic, she's certainly more liberal. You know, she's more 185 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: more Democrat leaning on a bunch of issues than either 186 00:10:56,440 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: McCarthy or a Scalise. So you know how to have 187 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: a plan, right, if you're going to charge the hill, 188 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: so to speak. That kind of makes sense in a 189 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: number of ways here, But you gotta have a plan. 190 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: You don't want to just getna get pushed right down. 191 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: So I'm not really clear on what they think they 192 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: can accomplish other than the messaging and maybe some concessions. 193 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: But it looks like those concessions from McCarthy just aren't 194 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: He's not going to sign on to anything that artificially 195 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: constrains him as speaker, right, that's just not going to happen. Yeah, 196 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: And I think that's where most people out there are 197 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: sitting around. This to me feels like feels like a 198 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: lot of the negotiations when you're like, hey, are we 199 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: going to raise the debt ceiling? Yeah, eventually the debt 200 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,240 Speaker 1: ceiling is gonna get raised. Right. You might shut down 201 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:47,360 Speaker 1: the government for a week or ten days maybe, but 202 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: it's not like it's not going to get resolved at 203 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: some point. That's where I come around on this, and 204 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:56,560 Speaker 1: I think your point is well taken here. For the 205 00:11:56,600 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 1: average person out there listening to us, what is practical 206 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: difference between Kevin McCarthy in the speaker's chair and between 207 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 1: let's say Steve Scalise in the speaker's chair. I know 208 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: it matters a great deal to those individuals, but in 209 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: terms of their practical ability to get things done, Buck, 210 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it changes anything because we 211 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,800 Speaker 1: have to keep in mind basically the House of Representatives 212 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: exist now as as as just a roadblock a break, 213 00:12:25,640 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: they they're just breaks on the crazy train. They don't 214 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: get to direct where the train goes, they don't get 215 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: to control where the train stops. They just get to 216 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: be a roadblock. And is there very much difference in 217 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: McCarthy as a roadblock or Scalise as a roadblock? Based 218 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:48,319 Speaker 1: on what I have seen, the answer is no. Maybe 219 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: we're missing something. We've reached out to some of those 220 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: nine that are saying, hey, we're not going to vote 221 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: for McCarthy. They have an open forum to come on 222 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: this program and explain to us what we are missing. 223 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: They are in the middle of this battle right now, 224 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: but right now I don't see as being a tangibly 225 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: massive difference between the two. Haven't heard from any of you, 226 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 1: are friends all across the country. So eight hundred two 227 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: two two eight eighty two. If you got some passionate 228 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: thoughts on this battle for the speaker's gavel, kind of rhymed, 229 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: please do call this and we'll be talking to you 230 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: later on in this hour. A lot more coming up 231 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: here on COVID. 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Pure 256 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: Talk is simply smarter, wireless, speaking truth and having fun. 257 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:58,120 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome back in Clay Travis, 258 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton shows as we await word on the official 259 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: House decisions which are underway right now. One bit of 260 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: positive news. Florida Governor Ronda Santis has been inaugurated for 261 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: a second term as the governor of Florida, and I 262 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:21,080 Speaker 1: believe we have a cut from that address which he 263 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: just gave here it is. Freedom lives here in our 264 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: great sunshine, say of Florida. It lives in the courage 265 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: of those who patrol the streets and who keep our 266 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: communities safe. It lives in the industry of those who 267 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: work long hours to earn a living and raise their families. 268 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: It lives in the dedication of those who teach our children. 269 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: Lives in a determination of those who grow our food. 270 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: It lives in the wisdom of our senior citizens. It 271 00:15:55,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: lives in the dreams of the historic number of family 272 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: who have moved from states across this country because they 273 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: saw Florida as the land of liberty and the land 274 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: of sanity. All right, you're in Tallahassee right now, Buck, 275 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: I'm going to come down a little bit later. One 276 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: of the celebratory events, as you mentioned, of the twenty 277 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: twenty two election, was Florida officially turning into a red state. 278 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: Many different pickups that took place in the House all 279 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: over the state. Republicans won by margins of eighteen to 280 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: twenty one. Interestingly, Kathy hokel now starting to realize that 281 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: a lot of New Yorkers may have bailed on her state. 282 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: But you and I planning on being there at the 283 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: celebration tonight in Florida, which is one that I do 284 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 1: think we should enjoy because it's pretty seismic. If you 285 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: had said eight years ago Florida is no longer a 286 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: toss up state, people would have said you were crazy. Clay. 287 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: Not only did Florida go read in a big way, 288 00:16:55,600 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: and it is obviously because of the governorship of Ronda 289 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: Santa starting in twenty eighteen, Miami date. I mean, you 290 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 1: look at Miami, it went read so the biggest city 291 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 1: in the state. I mean, that is a seismic shock 292 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: to the state Democrat party. That's something that is really 293 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: hard for them to shake off. And I think that 294 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: you're just going to see a continued consolidation because you 295 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: gotta remember, now you have Ronda Santis as governor of 296 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: Florida with a supermajority in the state legislature. So think 297 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,199 Speaker 1: about what he was doing and what he managed to 298 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: do with a very much more narrow majority, and also, 299 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,160 Speaker 1: let's be honest, a narrow win in twenty eighteen. Now 300 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,199 Speaker 1: he has as clear a mandate as the people of 301 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: the state of Florida could have given in a reelection effort. 302 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: And I think you're going to see constitutional carry come 303 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: to the state of Florida. I think you're going to 304 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 1: see more slashing of unnecessary regulation bringing down costs. They 305 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 1: already brought down the old costs. Here a lot of 306 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: really good stuff. Republican governors take note. There is a way. 307 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: My friends the Florida Blueprint. 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Brinksmanship. The 337 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: thing about it is that if it goes awry, you 338 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: don't look very clever. And if you do it just 339 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: the right way, it can be seen as as statecraft. 340 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: It can be seen as a high stakes negotiation. But 341 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: the thing about playing a game of chicken. I'm gonna 342 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: start mixing analogies here or metaphors or both. Is if 343 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: one of you doesn't pull off the road, you end 344 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: up in a wreck. And we got to see where 345 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: this is supposed to had. I am not entirely well, 346 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: I would put it this way, Lay, I'm not certain 347 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: that all of the members are certain who are involved 348 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: in this, exactly what an acceptable end state is to them. 349 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: We all know a totally unacceptable end state I think 350 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:43,719 Speaker 1: everybody on the right understands, is that you have anyone 351 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: other than a Republican who is going to be Speaker 352 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: of the House, absent an alternative, a realistic alternative who 353 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 1: can get the votes. Where is all this going now? 354 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 1: Matt Gates, who has been a fiery on this issue, 355 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:03,479 Speaker 1: He's out there saying that this is about oversight, and 356 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: I think there's this notion this case being made, this 357 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: is about shaping the way oversight and the way hearings 358 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: will be done in this one eighteenth Congress by the House. 359 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: Here is Gates who's bringing up the Benghazi issue. Play 360 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: twenty five. Please, we were threatened by my committee chairman 361 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 1: to be on the Armed Services Committee. Mister rogers that 362 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: if we did not vote for mister McCarthy, we would 363 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: be removed from committees. Our position is that if Kevin 364 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy is the Speaker of the House and we don't 365 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: have an ability to ensure that there is an oomph 366 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 1: behind the agenda and energy behind our oversight, that the 367 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 1: commitee sigmons don't mean that much anyway. I'm not here 368 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,879 Speaker 1: to participate in some puppet show where we pass a 369 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: bunch of messaging bills, send him to the Senate, watch 370 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: him die, fail to use leverage, and don't hold the 371 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: Bide administration accountable. I don't want to relive the Benghazi experience, 372 00:21:56,440 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: where it's just theater pretending to be oversight a few things. 373 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: The Benghazi hearings, unfortunately did not achieve what they sought 374 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: out to achieve. And that was clear early on, and 375 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: I said it, and people got mad at me, and 376 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 1: it was true that as soon as Barack Obama won 377 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 1: reelection back in twenty twelve, this notion, I mean, it 378 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: launched a few cable news careers, but it was not 379 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: actually meaningful oversight, and there was no accountability had for 380 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: Benghazi whatsoever. That's just a recitation of the reality of 381 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 1: that situation, right, that's what came of it. But okay, 382 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: so what does that mean now? Gates is saying Clay 383 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: that he doesn't want it to be hollow and just measures. 384 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: But there are limitations to what Republicans can do in 385 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 1: just the House, they don't have unified government. And beyond that, 386 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 1: why aren't we hearing that they will eventually vote for 387 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: a Republican and make sure there is no chance that 388 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: after multiple ballots you would get a Democrat in the 389 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: Speaker of the House chair, Because then I think they 390 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 1: really I think I even realized this. Well, they've kind 391 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: of said where this all goes, which means do they 392 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 1: really even have any leverage in the first place? Did 393 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: you know what? I mean? They need to establish for 394 00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,479 Speaker 1: everybody that they're not willing to blow this whole thing up. 395 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: But the problem with being a person who's threatening to 396 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 1: blow everything up is the moment you say you won't 397 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,160 Speaker 1: do it, nobody listens to you. Yeah, that's that's why 398 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 1: it's I don't buy it as a real negotiation strategy. 399 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I understand it. I understand why your analogy 400 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: of like two cars that are playing chicken, the one 401 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 1: who pulls that the last minute wins, But if neither pulls, 402 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 1: then everybody dies. Like that's not you know, a suicide 403 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 1: pact is not to me a victory in some way. 404 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: And here's what I would say. Jim Jordan has come 405 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 1: on this show for a long time. Jim Jordan wants 406 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy to be speaker. Donald Trump wants Kevin McCarthy 407 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: to be speaker. Donald Trump Junior just went on Twitter 408 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: and said, basically, a strategy that presupposes a Democrat might 409 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: win is not a strategy. And I understand anger, certainly, 410 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: there are a lot of angry people out there, but 411 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: anger isn't always a viable strategy. At some point, anger 412 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: has to give way to practicality. So I don't know 413 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: exactly how this is going to go. But the analogy 414 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 1: I used earlier is I think an accurate one where 415 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: for your average person out there, a Republican is going 416 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:36,879 Speaker 1: to end up in the speaker chair. And I don't 417 00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: think buck your life, or my life, or anyone else's 418 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: life out there is going to be fundamentally altered by 419 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: who's in the speaker chair because we don't have the house. 420 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: I mean, we have the House. But we don't have 421 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: the Senate and we don't have the White House. So 422 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: this idea that you're going to be able to do 423 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 1: things other than roadblock, Now, there are a lot of 424 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: things I want him to do. I want them to 425 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:01,199 Speaker 1: do a hearing on the ord of COVID buck. I 426 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: want to and all of our government's response. I think 427 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 1: we need a massive investigation into big tech, big media, 428 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: and big government collusion as it pertains to our current environment. 429 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,439 Speaker 1: But those things are just about setting the table and 430 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: telling the story. They aren't about implementing legislation because we 431 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 1: can't do that yet. And I understand that there is 432 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: a lot of frustration out there right now because of 433 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: the massive omnibus that was passed. You were handling this play. 434 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: Usually the week the week before, the days before Christmas. 435 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: You don't get something done like that by a lame 436 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 1: duck Congress. But sure enough they ran through that massive 437 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 1: spending bill. And there are people who are asking the question, understandably, 438 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: what's the point if everything, just if Republicans can't even 439 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: be a roadblock. I understand that, and there is frustration 440 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: around that rooted in what we've all seen. But we 441 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: also need to not just the seed the battlefield to 442 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: the other side. There's no way that we can take 443 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:06,920 Speaker 1: our ball and go home with it. There's no way 444 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: that we can avoid engaging with the realities of the 445 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: Congress as it currently stands. And I don't think that 446 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: there's don't I don't think you're gonna see chip Roy, 447 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna see any of these other 448 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 1: members of Congress, as as House Speaker. So, ultimately, if 449 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: the message has been heard, what is left to do 450 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: here other than go forward with McCarthy? And I asked 451 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: that question in all honesty. I think there's some people 452 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: who are very frustrated by it, but I haven't gotten 453 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 1: a really satisfactory answer to it. And I'm just gonna 454 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 1: the notion, it's almost hard to say out loud, right, 455 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: but the notion that after Republicans win a House majority, 456 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,600 Speaker 1: they could hand the speaker's gabble to the Democrats at 457 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 1: that point when we get email saying what's the point 458 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: of voting Republican? I'm not I don't even know if 459 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: there's a response to sitting here like no. I mean, 460 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: and and that I think is the concern that you're 461 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: painting yourself into a corner where the result actually blows 462 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:08,000 Speaker 1: up your own party and hands victory to the Democrats. 463 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 1: Maybe the only thing you can say at this point, Buck, 464 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: is that Republicans could get this incompetent is evidence of 465 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: what we really need, which is a game plan that 466 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 1: actually benefits everyone in the party, right And the only 467 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 1: thing that could benefit everybody in the party is uh, 468 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:31,879 Speaker 1: cutting taxes, increasing economic output, being the party of responsible 469 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: saying adults, that lifts the standard of living for everyone. 470 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: And in the meantime, all this behind the scenes battle 471 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: over whose speaker, I mean, what percentage, Buck, there's a 472 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: good question for you, what percentage of Americans can even 473 00:27:45,240 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: name who the Speaker of the House is? Right, it's 474 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: it's it's ninety nine point nine percent of this audience, uh, 475 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: and it is I don't know America overall. I would 476 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: say twenty or thirty maybe Max that could name. Maybe 477 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: they might know Nancy Pelosi because she's been there a 478 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 1: long time. Fifteen or twenty percent at most are going 479 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 1: to know whoever the Republican Speaker of the House is, 480 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 1: you know. I think there's also part of this is 481 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: dealing with is a processing of the frustration that we 482 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: had in the mid terms that we suffered through because look, 483 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,320 Speaker 1: we didn't get enough to do all that we want 484 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: to do. We didn't win a majority in the Senate, 485 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: and we didn't win a big enough majority in the House, 486 00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: and that means, as we all know, elections have consequences, 487 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 1: and so I think at some level this is the 488 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:42,719 Speaker 1: way that the system is processing this right now. And 489 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: people are dealing with this, including members of the Freedom 490 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: Caucus who are particularly annoyed at the reality, which is 491 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: that you're gonna have a house here, that there's gonna 492 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,000 Speaker 1: be a lot of wheeling and dealing. There's got to 493 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: be negotiation, there's gonna be you know, you didn't get 494 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 1: the sweeping victory you need, even on the House side, 495 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: I think to get everything that you want and to 496 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: have the kind of trajectory of the Republican majority that 497 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: you would want, it's just it's reality, man. We gotta 498 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: face what we have. You know, you you know the 499 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 1: Rumsfeld quote. People always say, you go to war with 500 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: the army you have. Well, we're doing politics with the 501 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: congressional majority we have, and it's not great right now, 502 00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 1: McCarthy just said as he walked into the chamber there 503 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: and burs who wants something they can't get, And there 504 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 1: were booze in the chamber just now Buck when McCarthy 505 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: was nominated for speakers. So we will follow this drama 506 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: as the show progresses throughout today and maybe even into 507 00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: tomorrow if this doesn't end up with his selection as 508 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 1: the speaker. 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That's get refunds dot Com. You get to 528 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: know the guys outside the issues which play in a podcast. 529 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,840 Speaker 1: Bite it the iHeart app or wherever you get your podcasts. 530 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton show. Let's go 531 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: to some of your calls here. A lot of you 532 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: wanting to react to the speaker battle that is currently 533 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: underway on the House floor Mark in San Antonio. We 534 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: should mention Buck that one possible resolution to this process 535 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 1: is that you could end up with someone being selected 536 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: who is not a member of Congress. That is possible. 537 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: You could have a speaker come in from outside of Congress. Yes, Clay, 538 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: you're very busy with this show. Let's not get crazy here, 539 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,400 Speaker 1: all right, the draft Clay Travis movement into Speaker of 540 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,120 Speaker 1: the House. Everyone out there settled down. Can't have it. 541 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: The yes, the would I would respectfully declined the other 542 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: thing out there that's worth understanding is that, to me, 543 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 1: is quite fanciful because the job of the speaker is 544 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: very procedural. There is a great deal of detail involved 545 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: in managing the House of Representatives calendar and everything else. 546 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,560 Speaker 1: So you typically need someone who's very plugged into the 547 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 1: party apparatus to be able to do this job. But 548 00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 1: there are people who want to draft someone from outside 549 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: of the house. Right now, Mark and san Antonio's got 550 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 1: an idea, Buck you bet, Actually we're looking for an 551 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 1: alternative to McCarthy. I think legitimately that the bulk of 552 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: the conservatives and you're listening to audience would love to 553 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: see the Santas that been a speaker, if if he 554 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: was willing to and if you could valued support behind him, 555 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,120 Speaker 1: because frankly, we have an opportunity to rock the boat. 556 00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: I think that would absolutely rock the boat, and it 557 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:03,959 Speaker 1: would that would less a lot of conservative support behind 558 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: somebody that we all seem to be would believe is 559 00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 1: really the standard bearer for the conservative movement. Right now, 560 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: thank you very much for this, and I'll just say 561 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: I'm in Tallahassee right now and going to be celebrating 562 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: with the greater decantist world the inauguration of after the 563 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: reelection of the person who I would argue is clearly 564 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: the best governor in Amica. I don't even say the 565 00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 1: best Republican governor America. I mean, I think that's a given, 566 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: but the best governor in America based on results and 567 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: based on how people move with their feet. Right. It's 568 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: like we always say, don't listen to the climate change 569 00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: alarmists in the media and on Hollywood because they're all 570 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: buying their Malibu beach houses. What do they really do 571 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: with their money? How do they really operate in their 572 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 1: day to day Look at how the people of America 573 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: are responding to what's going on in Florida. They are 574 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: flocking here in numbers. I don't even know if we've 575 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: ever seen numbers like the before, hundreds and hundreds of thousands. 576 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: Problem though, with what was just raised and an interesting idea, 577 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: and I understand where our steam caller is coming from. 578 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: With a clay, there's only so much to Ronda Santist 579 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 1: to go around, right, I mean, he's he's governor of Florida. Obviously, 580 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: people are talking about him a lot for twenty twenty 581 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: four as a possible presidential contender. I think that first 582 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: of all, he probably he'd like being governor more than 583 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: he'd liked being speaker, and the people of Florida don't 584 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:28,399 Speaker 1: want to give him up. So I don't think he's 585 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,440 Speaker 1: going anywhere. I think that's pretty clear. I think he 586 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: can accomplished way more as governor than he could as speaker. Candidly, 587 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, again, we're not talking about a Republican controlled Congress, 588 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,319 Speaker 1: and we're certainly not talking about a Republican in the 589 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: White House. So there's you know, this is why that's 590 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: gonna get signed. This is why I think it's so 591 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:49,280 Speaker 1: we always are honest with everybody about what I think expectations, 592 00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 1: what we think expectations should be, and how this is 593 00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: likely to play out. And when you have a very 594 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: narrow congressional majority, which Republicans have, I mean, what are 595 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: the things that can happen here? Oversight and spending Oversight 596 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,279 Speaker 1: is largely messaging because I'm just gonna say it, we 597 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: don't have the you know what's to start subpoenaing Democrats 598 00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: that Republicans just won't do it because there there'll be 599 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: articles written in some of the old standard journals about how, oh, 600 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: that's not how we do things, and you know it's 601 00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: just not gonna happen. Our side won't play as rough 602 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: as their side. And I hate to say it, but 603 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 1: if anyone disagrees with me, let me know what evidence 604 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,240 Speaker 1: you have for that one. So on the overside side, 605 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,280 Speaker 1: you know there are limitations. And then it's on spending 606 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: and clay our side likes to spend money too. Yeah, 607 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: there'll be people in the Freedom Caucus, and you know 608 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: they'll be the obviously Rand Paul's in the Senate, but 609 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: it'll be people that'll take principal stands against overspending, take 610 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: a stand against sending another one hundred billion dollars to Ukraine, 611 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But you're not gonna You're not 612 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: gonna see enough people take that stand to prevent the 613 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,560 Speaker 1: spending because look what just happened with the omnibus, right, 614 00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: So there's not that much that comes from this one 615 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: way or the others. Really, what I understand why people 616 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: also are of the opinion I don't really care who 617 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: speaker is, and they're saying that because hey, eighteen Republican 618 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: senators just cut the legs out of whoever the speaker 619 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: is because they voted for the one point seven trillion 620 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 1: dollars omnibus before we even had the opportunity to take 621 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 1: over the house. And so they can't even really do anything, 622 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 1: Buck until we get to September of this year when 623 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: the new resolutions begin, and we will follow this and 624 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 1: maybe we're going to get at the last minute and 625 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 1: acceptance of Kevin McCarthy, if not at Steve Scalise, And 626 00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: would they really go outside otherwise I don't even know 627 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: who the contenders would be outside of the house right 628 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 1: now now. I look. I think this ends up with 629 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy as speaker, and if it doesn't, we got 630 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: a problem on our hands because things have gone really 631 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,279 Speaker 1: awry because I don't see what the third way is here. 632 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't see it, but could be wrong, could be wrong, Clay. 633 00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: I do hear that there are mad in a whole 634 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: bunch of places now mandated in schools again, have they 635 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: been asleep for the last two and a half years 636 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 1: or so? Yes, And we need to talk about exactly 637 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: what the Wall Street Journal put out today because the 638 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: COVID vaccine and ain't actually a vaccine at all. We'll 639 00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: tell you about it next fleet. Travis and Buck Sexton 640 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 1: on the front lines of truth,