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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. Man,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori with you.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you about our special guest, David Weiss,

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Speaker 1: former commercial solar power developer and entrepreneur. David has been

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Speaker 1: researching the flat Earth hypothesis since two thousand and fifteen.

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Speaker 1: He's the creator of the flat Earth, Sun, Moon and

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Speaker 1: Zodiac clock app and he's got a new movie called

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Speaker 1: The Next Level, which you can find out at the

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Speaker 1: Next Level twenty twenty two dot com, which we have

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Speaker 1: linked up for you at Coast to COASTAM dot com. David,

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. I'm looking I'm looking forward to

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Speaker 1: this one with you tonight. George. Thanks so much for

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Speaker 1: having me been a Coast listener for decades I think,

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Speaker 1: and it's an honor to be here and finally talk

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Speaker 1: to you. Thank you. What's going on in the world

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Speaker 1: of solar power, by the ways, is that still moving

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Speaker 1: along or not? No, it's moving along. It's a you know,

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Speaker 1: with a rising electric race that it makes a lot

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Speaker 1: of sense that it depends on where you live and

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Speaker 1: the incentives and and what's going on. So it's definitely

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Speaker 1: something to look into if you have a place to

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Speaker 1: put them. Yeah, if you're definitely in a sunny region,

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Speaker 1: and it makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Sure?

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Speaker 1: All right, go ahead you first. Yeah. So the idea

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Speaker 1: of a flat Earth mixed in the heliocentric the globe

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Speaker 1: model is absolute insanity. If we look at the thumbnail

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Speaker 1: that your producers chose to put on the website, they

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Speaker 1: googled flat earth and Google serve them a picture of

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Speaker 1: a flat disc or a turn up floating in heliocentric space.

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Speaker 1: No flat Earth there, thinks that. So we want to

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Speaker 1: wipe that from our minds. And tonight what I'm going

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Speaker 1: to do is I'm going to introduce I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: I'm not here to convince you that the Earth is flat.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to get rid of ideas of what flat

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Speaker 1: Earth is, which it isn't, and help you see what

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Speaker 1: the heliocentric model is. And then I'm going to ask

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Speaker 1: you to make up your own minds and look, because

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Speaker 1: the best way to hide something is to make it

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Speaker 1: look so ridiculous that you refuse a look. And one

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Speaker 1: thing flat earthers all have in common is we all

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Speaker 1: thought flat Earth was stupid. We all refuse to look

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Speaker 1: when we first heard about it. But then something somebody

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Speaker 1: all went in it, not to prove it, to disprove it.

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Speaker 1: We went in to prove the globe and disprove flat Earth.

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Speaker 1: And that's how you become a flat earther. So tonight,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to point to a whole bunch of doors

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Speaker 1: that you've never seen, and it's up to you whether

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Speaker 1: you go through them and take a look. Fair enough,

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Speaker 1: fair enough, Now, when you were a little boy, what

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Speaker 1: did you think about space? What did you think of

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Speaker 1: It seems like every object is round? What did you

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Speaker 1: think of all that? George? I loved space. I loved

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Speaker 1: all of that stuff. And that's by design. Before we're

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Speaker 1: before we could even talk, our parents probably put a

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Speaker 1: mobile of the Solar System over our head, over our cribs.

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Speaker 1: We had NASA sheets, we tested the sweet had astronauts

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Speaker 1: on Walt Disney, you know, have astronauts on. It's all

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Speaker 1: I may bring up a little bit of mass. Don't

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Speaker 1: short circuit. It's really easy, stuffed, really easy everything that

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Speaker 1: think about this. Large bodies of water at rest lay flat, scientifically, testably, provably,

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Speaker 1: And we live in what I call the Antarctic basin.

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Speaker 1: the Moon. And we took that picture from their website,

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Speaker 1: they call it the flat Earth Group. Well, the one

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Speaker 1: idea of flat Earth is absolutely preposterous. I'm surprise you

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Speaker 1: David and come back. Do you think what we're looking

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