1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Monday edition. Clay and Buck kicks off right now. Everybody, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 2: thank you for being here with us. We missed you 5 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: over the weekend. We trust you are ready for action today. 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: Relaxed after a couple of days away from the show. 7 00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: We've got a lot to discuss with all of you. 8 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 2: Bud Light continues to tank, and we keep saying, I mean, 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 2: they just really need to apologize and spend some money 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: on conservative shows and maybe things will turn. 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: Around for them. But they won't do it. We'll get 12 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: into a little bit more of that. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:39,919 Speaker 3: You have. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Speaker 2: The New York City mayor is calling for migrants to 15 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 2: be sent to every US city across the country. This 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 2: is always fascinating Democrats say migrants are and where they 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 2: say migrants. Just to be very clear, they're not talking 18 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 2: about immigrants who come here legally. Illegal aliens was the 19 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 2: term we were using until about five minutes ago. Illegal 20 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 2: aliens build this country, make us all richer, and make 21 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: everything better. But somehow they're a huge financial drain on 22 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: New York City such that New York City needs to 23 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: send them to other places because they can't afford them. 24 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: That's an interesting situation, isn't it? 25 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 2: Also Eric Adams, as you notice, I've got a lot 26 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 2: of New York on my mind these days. Eric Adams 27 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 2: has a new planet combat retail theft, which is a massive, massive, 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 2: millions and millions of dollars problem in New York City. 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: An update on the Epstein Jeffrey Epstein situation involving Bill 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 2: Gates in the Wall Street Journal that I thought was interesting. 31 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you. 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 2: We haven't spoken much, Clay, and I haven't talked you 33 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 2: a lot about Epstein's case and how there is still 34 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: a lot that is unresolved there. There's a lot that 35 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 2: we are told to accept that many of us say 36 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: that is unacceptable, meaning we don't have proper answers, we 37 00:01:58,480 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 2: don't have what we need. 38 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: So we'll get into that. A shooting in Memphis, Tennessee 39 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: that had a lot of people particularly fired up over 40 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: the weekend because the homeowner defending himself, his home, and 41 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: his family from incoming fire was arrested and is facing 42 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: charges from the Soros BACKDA in Memphis, Tennessee. So returning 43 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: fire now can get you locked up. We'll explain that 44 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: one later on. 45 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: Oh, one more thing the NAACP is telling is telling 46 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 2: people don't go to Florida. They're saying, don't go to Florida, 47 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 2: the state where the biggest problem. Here you go, if 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 2: you travel to Florida, be where your life is not valuable. 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 2: Play that audio for you later. But the state where 50 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 2: the biggest problem is no one is able to afford 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 2: houses in the biggest cities because of supply and demand, 52 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 2: because everyone is moving to Florida. 53 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: They're saying, oh, don't go, your life is not valued. 54 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: But let's start with this. Clay's like to focus in 55 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: on politics. The primary feels like the primary is underway now, 56 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: you know. It feels like we're really starting to enter 57 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: that phase where this is going to be a dominant theme, 58 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: a dominant situation day to day in American politics. Tim Scott, 59 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: the Senator, a senator from South Carolina, just formally announced 60 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: he is in this fight. Here is just from a 61 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,600 Speaker 1: few moments ago, the Senator from South Carolina. Play it. 62 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 4: They're replacing education within doctrination. They spent COVID locking kids 63 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 4: out of the classroom, and in Biden's America, crime is 64 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 4: on the rise and law enforcement is in retreat. The 65 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 4: far left is ending cash bails, They're demonizing, demoralizing, and 66 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 4: defunding the police. Joe Biden and the radical left are 67 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 4: attacking every single rung of the ladder that helped me climb. 68 00:03:55,640 --> 00:04:03,640 Speaker 4: And that's why I'm announcing today that I'm running for 69 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 4: president out of the United States America. 70 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 1: A fiery announcement. Sorry I stepped on it for a 71 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: second there. 72 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 2: Tell me, Clay, what is your first reaction to I mean, 73 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 2: my sense is Senator Scott is very widely liked in 74 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 2: GOP circles. Everyone is like, I like Senator Scott. He's 75 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: a good man. What does it mean for the political race? 76 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: So I love the way he announced there. 77 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: It's like he was a macho man Randy Savage or 78 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:39,919 Speaker 1: hul Cogan, like ripping off his shirt to reveal a 79 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: US flag underneath or something. Tim Scott, we've had him 80 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: on the show a lot. I'm sure we'll have him 81 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,359 Speaker 1: on at some point this week enters into a race 82 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: that I think it's fair to say buck right now, 83 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,159 Speaker 1: there are about five people that most people would recognize 84 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: as running for the rate. There's a lot of people 85 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,600 Speaker 1: who have entered right but I would say, obviously Trump, 86 00:05:00,800 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: we expect the Santis. The reports were He's going to 87 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: enter this week as well, Nicky Haley, Tim Scott, and 88 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: then maybe Vivik Ramaswami is in that five. We'll see 89 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: whether Mike Pence is going to enter. There's been a 90 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 1: lot of talk that suddenly Chris Christy's going to enter. 91 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: I am curious most with Tim Scott entering whether he's 92 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,240 Speaker 1: really running for president or is he running for vice president, 93 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: because if he were running for president, then he would 94 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: immediately attack Donald Trump, who is the leader. And I 95 00:05:34,000 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: would say what everybody needs to pay attention to so 96 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: far that characterizes this race, Buck, is almost everybody has 97 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: gone after Ron DeSantis, the guy who's presumed to be 98 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: in second place and isn't even officially in this race, 99 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 1: as opposed to going after Trump. And the reason why 100 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 1: I would point this out is what was the number 101 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 1: one story of twenty sixteen, Buck, When you go look 102 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: back at the Republican primary nineteen eighteen, whatever it was, 103 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: eighteen or nineteen, people enter and everybody thinks Trump's gonna fade. 104 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: I just need to get it down to me versus Trump, 105 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 1: And then what happened? They got it down to me 106 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: versus Trump, and instead of Trump falling back and the 107 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: counter puncher being the nominee, Trump just surged even more 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: into a more prominent spot. And the reason I bring 109 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: this up is, so long as everybody is attacking DeSantis 110 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: as opposed to Trump, what it means to me, Buck 111 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: is everybody's actually angling to try to be vice president, 112 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 1: or they're angling to be in the Trump administration more 113 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: than they want to be president. Now, Tim Scott has 114 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: a compelling story. I agree with much of what he says. 115 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: He is really selling the idea of the Barack Obama 116 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: sound sold in two thousand and eight, which is America 117 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:01,039 Speaker 1: is a redemptive, incredibly successful country where any kid that's 118 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: born today can grow up to be president of the 119 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: United States. And that is to me what Tim Scott's 120 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: ultimate message is. Whether you get into the nitty gritty 121 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: of his politics, his message is America is an exceptional place, 122 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: the greatest, freest country in the history of the world. 123 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: And my life story is evidence of the American dream 124 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: and what is possible here. And so I think that's 125 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: very compelling. The question I have, and I'm curious what 126 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: you would say to this, is is he actually running 127 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: for president or is he running for vice president? I 128 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: think he's running for vice president. Yeah, And I don't 129 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: mean that in any to be dismissive or disrespectful of 130 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: the idea that we don't know because we don't, Okay, 131 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: no one really knows where this prime area is going 132 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: to go and if but running for vice president for 133 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 1: someone like Tim Scott makes a lot of if you're 134 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: a strategist for him, makes a lot of sense, right, 135 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: especially if it's for Trump, because you know you're on 136 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: the launch pad. My friend, your four years if Trump wins, 137 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: you got four and but it's not even four years. 138 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: Within two years of Trump's second term, tim Scott would 139 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: be gearing up for his own presidential run. So it's 140 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a very different vice presidential slot now with a term 141 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: limited second term president, then it would have been if 142 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 1: you're running, you know, if you're running to be someone's 143 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: VP for possibly eight years, like Joe Biden was for 144 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: Barack Obama, that's a long time now. I know Biden 145 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: ended up coming back and winning the presidency, but there 146 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: was a once in a century pandemic and some crazy 147 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: things happened. So the Tim Scott running for VP to me, 148 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 1: makes that that's the long term play makes a lot 149 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: of sense that the places where I think he could 150 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: be a little bit vulnerable in the primary to the 151 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: degree that I'm not sure. He's again very a very 152 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: likable guy who has loves America, you know, tells us 153 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: a story of America as a great place. That so 154 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: you're gonna have so much connection with him from even 155 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: Trump voters in the primary, DeSantis voters in the primary. 156 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: DeSantis hasn't announced yet, but we're days away probably and others. 157 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 1: The only place though, if you're going to see him, 158 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:14,560 Speaker 1: I think get some my understanding. I should check on 159 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: the immigration thing. I think he's not great on immigration 160 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: from a very conservative or right of center point of view, 161 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: my point of view. And also on the criminal justice 162 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: reform issue. If you remember, after George Floyd, he was 163 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: we need to talk about police reform. And I was 164 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: shouting in June and twenty twenty about this isn't about 165 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: police reform. There are people rioting in the streets. They 166 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 1: don't care about police reform. This is something else, This 167 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: is ominous, this is wrong. So he was on the 168 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: wrong side of that issue in the beginning. Now did 169 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:43,880 Speaker 1: he get better. 170 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 2: Sure that's a place where I could see him getting 171 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,600 Speaker 2: some criticism if anyone out there, and I really mean this, 172 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 2: I've got a lot of South Carolinians who it's fun 173 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 2: to say Carolinian, a lot of South Carolinians who listened 174 00:09:56,480 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 2: to the show. If you think Tim Scott could go 175 00:09:59,640 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 2: the disc or if you just want to want to 176 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 2: weigh in, maybe you don't think Tim Scott should be 177 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: running at all, maybe you're not a eage fan eight 178 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: under two two two eight a two play. 179 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 1: We've got that. 180 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 2: But we've also got in addition to the Tim Scott announcement, 181 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 2: we have a likely Ron DeSantis announcement coming later this week. 182 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 2: And can I just throw this into the mix. I 183 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 2: want ever to listen very closely. This was over the weekend. 184 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 2: So when Ron is talking Governor Florida talking about COVID, 185 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 2: what he says about say the vaccines and warp speed 186 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: and the language he uses play clip one. 187 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 5: The way they weaponized these COVID vacxas was a massive 188 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 5: incursion into our freedoms. They wanted to deny people the 189 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 5: right to put food on their table if they didn't 190 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,679 Speaker 5: bend the knee and get a COVID shot that they 191 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 5: may not have wanted and that many of them did 192 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 5: not need. We can never allow warp speed to trump 193 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 5: informed consent in this country ever, again. 194 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: That line, Clay, we can never allow warp speed to 195 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: trump informed consent. 196 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 2: We all understand what he's doing here. He's calling out 197 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,320 Speaker 2: warp speed because this is one This is I can't 198 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: think of a place where the Trump base is more 199 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: uncertain of Trump honestly on policy than on his I 200 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 2: still think warp speed was amazing and saved you know, 201 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: one hundred million lives line, and I think Ron's going 202 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: after it here early. 203 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where Trump is caught between the reality of 204 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: the results of the COVID shot. It's basically worthless. Let's 205 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: be honest, by and large, in terms of anything, it 206 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: is truly worth his clay, because they're throwing it out 207 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: now all over the world basically, and every school and 208 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: university that made such a big deal about the fact 209 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,280 Speaker 1: that kids had to get the shot and then also 210 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: be boosted, they're quietly removing the COVID shot from their 211 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: list of vaccine requirements. And for anybody out there who 212 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: remembers going into college and the shots requirement. You have 213 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 1: to have the vaccine immunology as a part of being admitted. 214 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: You probably remember having to submit something there. To my knowledge, 215 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: they've never pulled a shot off of that list in 216 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: most of our lives. So the fact that they're just 217 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: suddenly now quietly all of these schools which were so 218 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: draconian about getting the shot, they're suddenly pulling it back, 219 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: lets you know what's going on. I think it's an area. 220 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: Remember strategically, Desantus is attacking Trump from the right. Nobody's 221 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: ever really gone after Trump because Trump has typically had 222 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: a lot of support on the right side of the 223 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: political equation, at least in the last six years or so. 224 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 1: And I think the single most vulnerable part of Trump's 225 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four candidacy is potentially his argument that the 226 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 1: COVID shot was a success. Now that actually might play 227 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: well in a general election, though buck ironically for Trump, 228 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,080 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of middle of the road 229 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: voters who want to believe that they didn't get completely snookered, 230 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: that that COVID shot really was a success. And so 231 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: this is one of those angles where look, DeSantis is 232 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 1: more right wing on abortion than Trump is. Trump in 233 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: some ways is almost running a general election campaign in 234 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: the Republican primary. I think that's interesting. Let's also talk 235 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more about Tim Scott. 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Again 253 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: that's pound two five zero say Clay and Buck switch 254 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: to Pure Talk today, Puretalk Wireless, four Americans, five Americans, 255 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: helping you separate truth from fiction every single weekday The 256 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: Clay Travis and Buck Sexty Walk Back in Clay Travis 257 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, we were talking about the fact that 258 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: it feels as if many people who are entering the 259 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: Republican race are auditioning to be Donald Trump's vice president 260 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: and if not his vice president, Secretary of Treasury, Secretary 261 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: of State, that they're that they're interested in being in 262 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,520 Speaker 1: the administration. And the only it's I want you guys 263 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: to just pay attention to what's going on here. The 264 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: only person that has gone into the Republican race that 265 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump has actually attacked is Ron DeSantis. That's it. 266 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: Here's what Donald Trump had to say in the last 267 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 1: few minutes about Tim Scott entering. Good luck to Senator 268 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: Tim Scott in entering the Republican presidential primary race. It 269 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: is rapidly loading up with lots of people, and Tim 270 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: is a big step up from Ron D. Sanctimonious, who 271 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: is totally unelectable. I got opportunity zones done with Tim, 272 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: A big deal. That has been highly successful. Good luck, Tim. 273 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: Exclamation point right. That is Donald Trump's reaction. This is 274 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: a Trump race, This is a Trump to santisfied, and 275 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: we all know it. And all these other candidates are 276 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: not going to be the president unless something dramatic happens. 277 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 1: That I know, no one can really predict the future 278 00:16:07,160 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: of politics. But a couple of things, by the way 279 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: that I checked out while we were in the break, 280 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: I was I was actually far too generous toward Well, 281 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: you look at the there were a lot of candidates 282 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: in the recall in California. Gavin Newsom got eighty four 283 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: percent of the black vote personally. There were other candidates 284 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: beside Larry Elder who were also on that recall ballot. 285 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: So when you look at the number of Democrats, it's 286 00:16:32,160 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: like ninety ninety two percent. And then you look at 287 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham versus Tim Scott, and they weren't running, you know, 288 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: against each other. But Tim Scott got two percent more 289 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,720 Speaker 1: of the black vote in South Carolina than Lindsay Graham 290 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: did two percent in his home state. 291 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 2: So it has just been these numbers have been immovable 292 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: four years. That doesn't mean they're not moveable. That doesn't 293 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: mean that the identity politics got. 294 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 1: Run against do we know is in another black candidate 295 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: that Again, this is your data on the fly here, 296 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: it's it's challenged. I know Lindsay Graham ran against a 297 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: black candidate for because they spent fifty million dollars or 298 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: whatever the heck it was to try to flip the 299 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: Lindsey Graham seat in South Carolina. And the reason why 300 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: the identity politics thing, I think that has not been 301 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: tested that often is what happens if a black Republican 302 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: runs against a white Democrat. Now it's in California, Larry Elder, 303 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: but it was exactly Larry Elder is to be fair, 304 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 1: I think you know a conservative talk radio host in 305 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: a state that that doesn't have that high of a 306 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: black population. I just I am just curious if you 307 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,360 Speaker 1: had if herschel Walker had been running against I don't know, 308 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: like as off right the white guy, what would that 309 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: have looked like in terms of the numbers. And again, 310 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:06,400 Speaker 1: part of the data here is just looking at the 311 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: overall electorate and analyzing it. Trump lost in twenty twenty 312 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: not because of the black vote. The black vote was 313 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: actually down. Trump lost because suburban white women hate him 314 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: all right, That's the truth. And my biggest thing on 315 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: Trump as you move towards twenty twenty four is how 316 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: do you persuade suburban white women that Trump is not 317 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the devil? Because they turned on him in a big way. 318 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: Trump Trump didn't do well enough with white women for sure, 319 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: White suburban women, white working class voters in russ Belt states, 320 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: and college in general, college educated white voters as well. 321 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: Now that those were the underperformance areas relative to twenty sixteen, 322 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 2: which I think is the important metric to look at right, 323 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 2: like he's got there other places where a Republican's gonna 324 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 2: have a tough time. Do you want to take We've 325 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: got a couple of people from South Carolina. You want 326 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 2: to let let our folks weigh in here? Yet, Denise 327 00:18:57,920 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 2: in Columbia, South Carolina, how you doing? 328 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 6: I'm great, Buck? 329 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 5: How are you? 330 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: I would play and I are fantastic? Denise? What's on 331 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:05,439 Speaker 1: your mind? 332 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 6: Well? I just had a few things said by Senator Scott. 333 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 6: He is incredibly one of the best senators we've had 334 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,680 Speaker 6: in South Carolina. And my main concern is, like you 335 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 6: were just discussing about Lindsey Graham, the fifty million dollars. 336 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 6: I would be worried that they would try to do 337 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 6: that again in South Carolina and point in cases Jacksonville. 338 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: You mean you mean you mean if Tim Scott were 339 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: not your senator, that there would be a lot of 340 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: money spent to try to replace him. Is that what 341 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: you're trying to say? 342 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 6: Absolutely? Absolutely? Yeah, Well I mean more in case. You know, Jacksonville, 343 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 6: Florida just elected their first mayor Democrat mayor, and as 344 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 6: y'all know, a lot of people have been escaped into 345 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 6: South Carolina. 346 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 2: Litten, Yeah, thank you for calling in, Denise Barry from Columbia. 347 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 2: South Carolina's got another Tim Scott take How you doing, Barry? 348 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 3: Good? How are you? Thanks for taking the call? The 349 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 3: uh issue of Tim Scott. You know this is an 350 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 3: honorable man. Now I just heard that he's black. Well okay, 351 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 3: I'm lying, but you know, I mean, you like. 352 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 1: You like the idea of these running You think he 353 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 1: can be president? 354 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 3: I think he can be president. 355 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: All right, Thank you Berry, Thank you for calling in. 356 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 1: We had to get to very with the music means 357 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: unfortunately the end of the hours here, so we had 358 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: to bounce. Apologies for that play. 359 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: What what kind of a wild, insightful and fun ride. 360 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 2: Are you taking us on to the next the next hour, 361 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 2: we got so many topics we were thinking about getting 362 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 2: to where we do have a tingle. 363 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: There's a great front page story on bud Light and 364 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: the collapse there. Also, I want to talk we did. 365 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,320 Speaker 1: We were going to mention it, but this n double 366 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 1: a CP boycott, Yes, Florida is among the most ridiculous 367 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 1: stories that I have seen in some time. We'll discuss 368 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: both and what they represent when we come back for 369 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 1: hour two. 370 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 2: Third hour of Plan Buck kicks off right now everybody 371 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 2: and New York City's Mayor Eric Adams has some problems 372 00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: on his hands. The biggest city in America is seeing 373 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: crime rates that are so high, particularly along the lines 374 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: of day to day and quality of life crime, shoplifting 375 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 2: and vagrancy and all these issues that people are wondering 376 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 2: what he's going to do, if anything, try to turn 377 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: things around. 378 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: I've got some updates for you on that. 379 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 2: And then also we have the migrant crisis, which we'll 380 00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 2: dive into a bit more. I keep wondering why it's 381 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 2: sort it's a crisis. If you care about sovereignty or 382 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: border immigration law, why is it a crisis for New 383 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: York City. Notice, Democrats never seem to want to answer this, 384 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:04,280 Speaker 2: because we're always told that illegal immigration only has upside 385 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 2: for the country. We need these workers, right, that's what 386 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: the left will all we say, and we're a nation 387 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 2: of illegal immigrants and all the rest of it. So 388 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 2: we'll get into some of this, but I wanted to 389 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: start with this, this crackdown on shoplifting plan for NYC 390 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: that was put out by the mayor. I think this 391 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: is just a couple of days ago because everyone I 392 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 2: was looking at what's happening, whether it is Portland, San Francisco, 393 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 2: Los Angeles, you know, find me a Washington, d C, Baltimore, 394 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: find me a major Democrat controlled city, and I'll show 395 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: you a place where things have gotten worse with quality 396 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: of life and crime is over the last three years 397 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: on the rise. Why I should always know what is 398 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 2: it about the last three years? 399 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: What changed? We all know BLM two point zero and 400 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: the narrative shift and the political shift of Democrats toward 401 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: legalizing the illegal and no longer punishing criminals and thinking 402 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: that criminals are a victim class themselves to be apologized 403 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: to by the state. The criminal is not the problem. 404 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: The problem is the state's failure are failure yours and 405 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: mine in giving the criminal what he needs or she 406 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:35,680 Speaker 1: needs overwhelmingly he but in order to be happy, so 407 00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: they won't go car jacking for the fifteenth time. Right, 408 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: it's ourfaul, that's what we're told. Well, let's just let's 409 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 1: look at the shoplifting plan that New York City's put 410 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: out last week. I told you do remember the number, Clay, 411 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: was it almost seven hundred million or almost eight hundred 412 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: million lost in fair jumping, turnstile jumping and on the 413 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,680 Speaker 1: bustle almost almost seven hundred million? You said, yes, thank 414 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,000 Speaker 1: you almost, Which is it's a lot of money for 415 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: a city. Seven hundred million dollars. You think that's a 416 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,800 Speaker 1: pretty big deal. People just not paying and it's a 417 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: violation of law. So here's the crackdown on shoplifting shoplifting now. 418 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: I think Target alone said they lost five hundred million 419 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: dollars nationwide to shoplifting last year. That's five hundred million 420 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 1: dollars one company. Think about that for a moment. I 421 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,119 Speaker 1: mean I have to wonder what what For a second 422 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: are the what are gross sales? Clay, I'm looking this 423 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: up of Target stores nationwide, because when you're starting to look, 424 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's in the billions. Oh wow, wow, 425 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: total revenue one hundred and nine billion dollars. That's a lot. 426 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:47,960 Speaker 1: That's a lot more than I thought I was gonna say, 427 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: like fifty billion or something. Anyway, that's a lot of 428 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: money to Target's making a profit. To be fairbuck, the 429 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: profit margin in retail is awesome, manuscule. So when you're 430 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 1: talking about five hundred million dollars in theft, as Target 431 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: has put out, uh, this is and and and and 432 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: it's also worth noting that this is large scale theft. 433 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: That's different than just you know, you're filling a packet, 434 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: stealing a yeah, candy bar or something. We're talking about 435 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:19,199 Speaker 1: like sort of orders of magnitude, professional thievery that is 436 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: taking a huge portion of their profits. 437 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: They call it organized retail theft. Now, that's the term 438 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: that law enforcement uses for this. It's happening in New 439 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: York City all the time. I've been in stores in 440 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 2: New York where people have been stealing stuff and the 441 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: clerks just sit there, and you know, it's demeaning for 442 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: the clerks. It's demeaning for the other people in the store. 443 00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: It's uh, it's unsettling because you're also you're watching someone 444 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,880 Speaker 1: break the law. You understand that if someone does confront 445 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: this person, there could be a physical confrontation, and you know, 446 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: it's just the whole thing as you're watching a crime 447 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: take place. So here's how Mayor Adams is going to 448 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: deal with the mat ever and agree it's not a 449 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: massive problem. For years, they lied, Oh, it's just COVID. 450 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: Remember when the crime win was COVID Clay. Yes, everyone's 451 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: staying at home watching Netflix. Crime is going up though 452 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 1: it's because of COVID. It never made But they were lying. 453 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: They were just but they're buying time for Biden in 454 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: the election. Here, that was the whole point. Okay, here's 455 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: the plan. Give first time offenders intervention programs instead of prosecution, 456 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: de escalation training for retail employees, establish neighborhood watch groups, 457 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: and install kiosks in stores to connect would be thieves 458 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: with social services programs. The Mayor of New York City saying, 459 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,679 Speaker 1: let's take fewer juveniles into the justice system where they 460 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: will face any consequences whatsoever. Let's have retail employees learn 461 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: to do even less than they're doing. And we're going 462 00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: to spend more money on public services that won't. 463 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 2: Do a damn thing to change any of this. That's 464 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 2: the plan to deal with shoplifting. Wow, I wonder why 465 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: it doesn't get any. 466 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: Better and Buck, this has real tangible impact because I 467 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: got some numbers here on population that was in the 468 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,639 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal editorial. I read this and I was like, 469 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. We know that a lot of 470 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: people move because of COVID, but now quality of life, 471 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 1: I think has also become a major factor. Did you 472 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 1: see these numbers? According to the latest census data, New 473 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:34,600 Speaker 1: York City lost four hundred and sixty eight thousand people 474 00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: between April of twenty twenty and July of twenty twenty two. 475 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 1: That's five point three percent of its population. And it's 476 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,360 Speaker 1: not just New York City. That's more people buck than 477 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: live in the entire city of Miami. That many people 478 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: left New York City. This is according to Wall Street Journal. 479 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: Other big city losers Chicago lost eighty one thousand people, 480 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: LA lost seventy six thousand, and San Francisco lost sixty 481 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 1: five thousand and Buck that population for San Francisco seven 482 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: point five percent of the overall population of San Francisco 483 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: left in the last two years. Think about that, and Buck, 484 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: it's not just the people that are leaving. I would 485 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 1: bet if you dove into the data, it's the wealthiest, 486 00:28:24,040 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: it's the highest educated, it's the people with the most 487 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: opportunity to go elsewhere. So it's even more debilitating to 488 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: those cities than just the raw numbers. April of twenty 489 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 1: twenty three versus April of twenty twenty two, the state 490 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: of New York was down forty percent in revenue. So 491 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: you may only lose five percent of your population, but 492 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 1: look at just basic income tax data. Yep, one percent 493 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 1: of earner's nationwide, and this is true in the cities 494 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: as well. Are paying Oh gosh, wait, hold on, and 495 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 1: I want to get this number right in the top 496 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: sj ordinary note it's incredibly high amount. I think it's 497 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: over twenty percent. You look that up, because I'll give 498 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: you this part. Less than over half of people. We 499 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: just had tax day last month. Over half of Americans 500 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 1: don't pay a single dollar in federal income tax. Because 501 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: you that's a staggering number, I think to a lot 502 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 1: of you out there listening again, let me repeat that 503 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 1: over half of Americans do not pay a single dollar 504 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: in federal income tax. 505 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: I keep getting this. I underestimate how crazy it is. 506 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: The top one percent of earners are paying over forty 507 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 2: percent of the income taxes, getting closer that's unbelievable to 508 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 2: fifty percent. So if you lose the five percent that 509 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: you're talking about a New York City, and of that 510 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 2: five percent you have a lot of people who are 511 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: in the one percent in terms of earnings, your city's 512 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:04,400 Speaker 2: financials structure is destroyed. And I think that's what. I 513 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 2: think San Francisco is heading for this. I think New 514 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: York City is heading for this. I think they'll be 515 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 2: I think Chicago is heading for this. And the answer 516 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 2: that the left has the answer to these left wing democrat, 517 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: community activist lunatic party the answer they have for you 518 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: is more public services and raise taxes. Yeah, the exact 519 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: this is staring at a house fire and saying, let's 520 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 2: throw some Molotov cocktails in there. 521 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: No, you're right, And this is where I come back to. 522 00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: One of the stories I keep telling is the virtue 523 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 1: as circle. I use Google as an example. Every Google 524 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 1: search makes the Google machine better. All of these cities. 525 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: I saw these numbers over the weekend, Buck, and my 526 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: jaw drop. Seven and a half percent of San Francisco's population, 527 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 1: left five percent of New York City. And that's that 528 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: you gave. I bet, in conjunction with the one I gave, 529 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: has staggered a lot of people. Over half of Americans 530 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: don't pay a dollar in federal income tax and you 531 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: just said, Buck, the top one percent pays forty percent 532 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 1: of all federal income taxes. That is unbelievable. And what 533 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: is also happening now is if you're super wealthy, why 534 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: in the world, if your city is deteriorating, and if 535 00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 1: your quality of life is collapsing in Chicago or New 536 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: York City or San Francisco or LA why would you 537 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: pay fifteen percent sometimes of your income for the privilege 538 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: of being able to live there. To the state and 539 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: local government, you would say, look, if you're making think 540 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: about this. Some of these big private equity guys they 541 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: make ten million a year, right, you make ten million 542 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: a year. You can put an extra one point three 543 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: million dollars in your pocket by living in Texas, by 544 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: living in Tennessee, by living in Florida. I think Nevada 545 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: has no state income tax. Why would you ever live 546 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: in a state that's taking that much more of your 547 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 1: hard earned cash when, frankly, you can live in a 548 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 1: better run state with people in government that you trust more. 549 00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: This is this is a light bulb moment Covid was 550 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I think Buck and I don't think this is going 551 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: to change. I think these big cities are going to 552 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: keep losing the highest earners and they're going to be 553 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: moving to these red states and they're going to be 554 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: funding their growth. 555 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 2: Think about it this way. Democrats outnumber Republicans. I mean 556 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: New York City went almost ninety percent roughly, we'll say 557 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 2: ninety percent for Biden the last election. It's eight to 558 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: one Democrat to Republican pretty consistently. San Francisco even more 559 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 2: than that. DC is getting close to ten to one. Now, 560 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 2: DC is a little different because of the federal federal 561 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 2: status of it, But you look at these other cities, 562 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 2: they have these icebergs of lunacy are going to take 563 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: a really long time to melt because they're one party 564 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: states now. So you're not even going to get the 565 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:05,480 Speaker 2: chance to see a Republican coming into these places and 566 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: saying we're going to clean things up. We're going to 567 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 2: punish people who refuse to allow us to live in 568 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,479 Speaker 2: an orderly and save society. We're going to clean up 569 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 2: the streets. We're going to cut back the massive welfare programs. 570 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 2: We're going to cut back on all the special status 571 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: and special money given to illegal immigrants in these places. 572 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: We're going to change the way we do business here. 573 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 2: And the problem that I see is before you get 574 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 2: to that, these cities are going to be hollowed out, 575 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: I mean, they're going to lose more and more people. 576 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 2: This trend is not going to stop. So this is 577 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: why I've been saying. I think that one part of 578 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 2: this that I underestimated was how much pain from bad 579 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 2: policies Democrats who control the politics and these cities are 580 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 2: are willing to live there. Look at the look at 581 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 2: the situation right now with you know, with the Jordan, 582 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:03,160 Speaker 2: the Jordan Neely and Daniel Penny, right, Daniel Penny's facing 583 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 2: fifteen years for manslaughter charges. A city that takes someone 584 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: like Daniel Penny and says that we're going to lock 585 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 2: you up, possibly for anywhere from three to fifteen years 586 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 2: for doing something that eyewitness to say felt like it 587 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: was heroic at the time. That's not a place where 588 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 2: a lot of people are going to want to say, 589 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 2: I want to raise a family and I want but 590 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: AOC and the rest of the Democrat left lunatics, they 591 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 2: think it's great. They're all about it. So make your 592 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: decisions about this, folks, you see what's going on. Believe 593 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 2: the left when they tell you, when they show you 594 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 2: what they're all about and what they plan to do. 595 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: And you know, when a service member or first responder 596 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: dies or is catastrophically injured in the line of duty, 597 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 2: who's there for them or the famili's left behind? 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I'd encourage you guys to go read it, 618 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:56,720 Speaker 1: especially if you work in a business that is bon woke, 619 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: because there is a front page article in the Monday 620 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: edition of The Wall Street Journal that dives in great 621 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: detail into the collapse of bud Light in the wake 622 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:14,279 Speaker 1: of their decision to put a trans influencer on a 623 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: beer can as a part of a March Madness promotion. 624 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: And initially when people said, hey, we're going to fight 625 00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: back against this, there was ridicule. There was the belief 626 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: nothing would happen. And in the chart that is included 627 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 1: in the bud Light article in the Wall Street Journal, Buck, 628 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 1: you can see that in the first week of May, 629 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: bud light consumption in this country is down twenty eight percent, 630 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,840 Speaker 1: and every week it keeps getting worse. And you remember 631 00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: first weekend in May. This is when I did my experiment, 632 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: and you were here with me in the Nashville area. 633 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:59,799 Speaker 1: We were at a musical event and no one would 634 00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 1: take a bud light. And what I am seeing when 635 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,680 Speaker 1: I am out and about when I am in a bar, 636 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: when I'm in a restaurant, I'll ask, I'll say, hey, 637 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 1: how's bud light selling, And by and large, the servers 638 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,120 Speaker 1: will say, nobody's ordering it. Now, I live in the 639 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 1: Nashville area, red state of Tennessee, so I'm not saying 640 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: that everything that I'm experiencing is representative. But when it's 641 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,640 Speaker 1: down twenty eight percent nationwide, and now it's starting to 642 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: filter over to Mick Ultra and to Budweiser itself. And 643 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,800 Speaker 1: Budweiser is deciding that they're going to have red, white, 644 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:39,280 Speaker 1: and blue cans, and they're going to have a Harley 645 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: Davidson edition and they're going to have a camouflage edition. 646 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: They are desperately backpedaling over the fact that they insulted 647 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 1: the consumer base by and large of bud Light, not 648 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,360 Speaker 1: just with that ad Buck, but also with their director 649 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,400 Speaker 1: of marketing saying, yeah, we didn't really like the people 650 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: who were drinking bud Light. It was too frauty. There 651 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: was out of touch humor, and people are saying, well, 652 00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: wait a minute. You know, relatively speaking, there's not that 653 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 1: much difference between bud Light, Coors Light, and let's say 654 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: Miller Lte And I understand some of our audience fervently 655 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: disagrees with me on this, Buck, but I will go 656 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 1: to the grave that if you were having nachos or 657 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,759 Speaker 1: you're having a hot dog at a ball game, that 658 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,080 Speaker 1: you just drinking out of a cup, cannot distinguish between 659 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,280 Speaker 1: the taste of those three. And so this is now 660 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,239 Speaker 1: the most success successful pushback we have ever seen on 661 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: any brand for going woke and directly undercutting their business. 662 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: And I believe we have audio it's important for you 663 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,879 Speaker 1: to realize, and you mentioned this in the first hour 664 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,320 Speaker 1: of the show. I think Buck, a lot of employee 665 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,040 Speaker 1: employees out there are not in support of what bud 666 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,960 Speaker 1: Light did, and a lot of distributors are not in 667 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: support because the way that Budweiser is distributed is with 668 00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: different regional outposts all over the country and one of 669 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: the distributors down in Alabama he was fed up. Buck 670 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,440 Speaker 1: listen to the ad that he took out directly to 671 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: attack what his company did. 672 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 7: Listen, There's been a lot of discussion, frustration, and even 673 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,800 Speaker 7: anger across the country regarding just one single can made 674 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 7: a bud Light that was produced for a social media influencer. 675 00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,600 Speaker 7: We too at Bama Buddwaserup said about it and have 676 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 7: made our feelings known to the top leadership at anhusse Cours. 677 00:39:21,640 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 7: We do not and as I said before, did not 678 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,240 Speaker 7: support this issue involving Dylan mulvaney. There was one single 679 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200 Speaker 7: can made, was not for sale and wasn't properly approved. 680 00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 7: As a result, the bud Light brand has new leadership. 681 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 7: Dylan mulvaney is not under contract with bud Light. The 682 00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 7: videos you may have seen are Mulvaney's own social media 683 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 7: posts that went viral and meaning web based news outlets 684 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,760 Speaker 7: have distorted the story. You deserve to know the truth 685 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,480 Speaker 7: and life is too short to let a couple of 686 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 7: individuals decide which you can eat or drink or spend 687 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 7: your hard earned money on. 688 00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 2: So this guy has done a better job I think 689 00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 2: of trying to deal with the situations obviously affecting him, 690 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,840 Speaker 2: affecting his business. And as I was saying, I know 691 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,240 Speaker 2: people who know so by you know, second order removed 692 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 2: from me, bud bud Light delivery guys, distributors, things like that, 693 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:10,080 Speaker 2: and they're getting hurt by this. Your business is down 694 00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 2: thirty percent. You got to think in terms of margins 695 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,399 Speaker 2: and not just gross sales. If your business is down 696 00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,400 Speaker 2: thirty percent, you may be out of business in a 697 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,400 Speaker 2: matter of time. It's not like you can sustain that. 698 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 2: And and so that's that's obviously something that hurts. But 699 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: I would just say this Anheuser Busch in bev, which 700 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,360 Speaker 2: owns a bud Light brand, and the marketing people involved 701 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,719 Speaker 2: with this, they didn't even after a couple of weeks, 702 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 2: they didn't say we're so sorry that we did this, 703 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,279 Speaker 2: and we're never going to do this again, and we're 704 00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 2: not gonna play this game. We just want to bring 705 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,759 Speaker 2: you great beer. And this was crap. Did they even 706 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,360 Speaker 2: fire anyone? I should notice, has it even been fired. 707 00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:49,560 Speaker 2: No one's been fired, No apology has been given, nothing 708 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 2: has been done. 709 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: They are hoping all of you just. 710 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 2: Forget and start drinking bud Light again. Now, part of 711 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,080 Speaker 2: that I think could be just a delusion, because they're 712 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,040 Speaker 2: in the you know, the fog of corporate war right now, 713 00:41:05,080 --> 00:41:07,400 Speaker 2: they're on what they're doing. But I also think like 714 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:12,240 Speaker 2: at some level it's because even still these companies Anheuser 715 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 2: Busch in Bev, like the big umbrella corporation that own 716 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:19,880 Speaker 2: spun Light, I think they're more worried, even at this stage, 717 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 2: about upsetting the LGBTQ I A plus activists than they 718 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 2: are the people who drink their products. Yeah, and that's 719 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,960 Speaker 2: why they're not willing to do the obviect. You and 720 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 2: I could sit down with the CEO of in Bev 721 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 2: and strategize this in ten minutes, and they would They 722 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,800 Speaker 2: wouldn't make this cool problem go away overnight, but you 723 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,840 Speaker 2: would see the curve start to go in the other direction. 724 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 2: People say all right, they'd come out with a statement, 725 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 2: and I think people would start to feel comfortable like 726 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 2: lesson learned. No one feels like lesson learned. 727 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: What's the lesson? Learned that they think that we. 728 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,759 Speaker 2: Have short attention spans, that they think that, you know, 729 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,840 Speaker 2: maybe this time they got caught. Next time they'll do 730 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,040 Speaker 2: it again. So this this is why, you know, I 731 00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 2: think pedal to the metal. The pressure has to stay on. 732 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 2: And then that brings me to Target. Now this is 733 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,120 Speaker 2: a tough one. Carrie, my wife loves Target. It's gone 734 00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: there for so many years. There's a Target very near us. 735 00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 2: I will tell you that Carrie took me to a 736 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 2: Target for the first time. Clay, I had never been 737 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,440 Speaker 2: You'd never been in a Target before. 738 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:24,839 Speaker 1: Not until the last twelve months. That's really fine. I 739 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:28,360 Speaker 1: had never been to a Target before. I'm an Amazon 740 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: dot com guy. But you know Target is selling these 741 00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:37,319 Speaker 1: bathing suits, yeah, that have like a a how do 742 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:40,400 Speaker 1: we even like a top top? Don't a tuck pouch? 743 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:45,360 Speaker 1: I think it's called women's bathing suits ostensibly that allow 744 00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: and quotation mark women to hide their penises. I mean, 745 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: I I just I can't even believe that this is real, 746 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: that a place like Target that there would be First 747 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,719 Speaker 1: of all, there can't be that much demand for this, right, Like, 748 00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:03,760 Speaker 1: how many dudes with penises are really wearing women's bathing 749 00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: suits on he like, what is the market cap? Like? 750 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,720 Speaker 1: How much money can you possibly make selling women's bathing 751 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,680 Speaker 1: suit with penis holes for them? So if Target is 752 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: selling is selling weiener Hider bathing suits, we hider like 753 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:25,000 Speaker 1: a worst hot dog ever selling, They're selling hot dog hammocks. 754 00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,880 Speaker 1: I mean they're selling situations here that are not good 755 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: uh for you know, we see what's going on, and 756 00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: I wonder, okay, so are people going to take you know, 757 00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:41,480 Speaker 1: is it just a bud light? I just can't stop. 758 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: I just can't stop thinking buck that somehow we've gone 759 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:48,960 Speaker 1: from women buying their bathing suits and worrying does this 760 00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 1: make me look fat? Is are my boobs showing too much? 761 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: Is my nipple gonna pop out too? Are you going 762 00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 1: to be able to see my penis? Like? This is 763 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,640 Speaker 1: what we're trying to say that women are thinking. Now 764 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 1: they've gone from do I look fat in this bathing suit? 765 00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:07,399 Speaker 1: To will my Uh I'm trying to use. 766 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:10,319 Speaker 2: The words this is this is at some level, it's 767 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 2: a violation of the true ethos of transgenderism. Isn't that 768 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,640 Speaker 2: you should have to hide the male penis. It's that 769 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 2: when you're transgender, the penis is actually a vagina, so 770 00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,200 Speaker 2: why hide it in. 771 00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 1: The first place. 772 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:25,160 Speaker 2: We're just supposed to believe this is a vagina because 773 00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,480 Speaker 2: it's a woman, and that's the way this goes. So 774 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:29,920 Speaker 2: I feel like they're trying to have it both ways, 775 00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,040 Speaker 2: which I suppose is not surprising. You're talking about the 776 00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:35,280 Speaker 2: transgender situation, but are people going to take action against 777 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 2: target claus? 778 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,200 Speaker 1: Should you should? I think look, people say, Okay, where 779 00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,600 Speaker 1: does this all lead? And I get it if you're frustrated, 780 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,120 Speaker 1: You're like, man, I just want to have a beer. 781 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,799 Speaker 1: I just want to go buy a bathing suit. I 782 00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:51,200 Speaker 1: don't want to have to make calculated political decisions every 783 00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: time I want to get a hamburger or you want 784 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: to go, like I said, just to go get a beer. 785 00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:59,400 Speaker 1: I think that the reason why this bud light reaction 786 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 1: is important buck is I think right now, for the 787 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: first time ever, there are marketing meetings at every big 788 00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:10,719 Speaker 1: brand in America and they are saying, hey, let's make 789 00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: sure that we don't get bud lighted, that we don't 790 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: destroy our brand because we're too woke. And they've never 791 00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,480 Speaker 1: had that discussion before in the history of pretty much 792 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: any brand in America. You know, I have a friend 793 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:26,319 Speaker 1: who works at a high level corporate comms firm, and 794 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,200 Speaker 1: I remember I spoke to him, you know, off the record, 795 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,080 Speaker 1: or you know, without attribution whatever, with different things. Without 796 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:34,960 Speaker 1: attribution is you can talk about what you said, but 797 00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,759 Speaker 1: you can't say who said it. Just two friends talking though. 798 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: We'll put it that way. About how shocked some of 799 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:47,200 Speaker 1: the corporate comms shops were over the willingness to fight 800 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,640 Speaker 1: with Disney from Ron de Santis. Yeah, and how that. 801 00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 2: Was a little that was a warning shot. And now 802 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,440 Speaker 2: with bud Light, this is the heavy artillery has come in. 803 00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:57,680 Speaker 2: It's a whole different level. 804 00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that Disney thing because Disney won't 805 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 1: acknowledge it. But for much of this year, the last 806 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:10,120 Speaker 1: calendar year, and certainly the last fiscal year, Disney's been 807 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: losing subscribers to Disney Plus. And I don't think a 808 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,360 Speaker 1: lot of people have recognized it because remember, the corporate 809 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,280 Speaker 1: press doesn't want to acknowledge when a quote unquote conservative 810 00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: boycott works because they don't want to give conservatives power 811 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 1: in the marketplace. I think Disney is losing a lot 812 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,439 Speaker 1: right now in streaming. We'll talk about that a little 813 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: bit more as we close out hour too. Oh, don't worry, 814 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:40,480 Speaker 1: the new Little Mermaid's gonna make billions of No, it's not, no, 815 00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:41,919 Speaker 1: it's not folks. 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