WEBVTT - TechStuff Classic: Can we stop an asteroid from hitting Earth?

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to text Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer with

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<v Speaker 1>How Stuff Works in a love all things tech. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a Friday. You know what that means. It's time

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<v Speaker 1>for another tech stuff classic. And what fun topic do

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<v Speaker 1>we have today? Kids, Well, it's can we stop an

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid from hitting Earth? Yikes? Yeah, when you talk about

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<v Speaker 1>existential threats and asteroid hitting Earth is way up there.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that it will happen. The question is just

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<v Speaker 1>when will it happen, not if when and what can

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<v Speaker 1>we do to avoid that? Well, this episode, which we

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<v Speaker 1>originally published on July eleven, two eleven, gets to the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom of that. Chris Pallette and I take a look

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<v Speaker 1>at some proposed solutions to this problem. Listen and enjoy.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna be talking about asteroids and preventing a collision

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<v Speaker 1>with Earth and what sort of tech would be involved

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<v Speaker 1>with that. And this comes courtesy of some Facebook requests

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<v Speaker 1>and email requests. I can't believe that we had people

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<v Speaker 1>send us Multiple people sent us this request which seems

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<v Speaker 1>really specific for more than one person. But hey, we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do it, okay, And um, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 1>have seen the documentary Armageddon, you remember that we shot

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<v Speaker 1>Bruce Willis up into space um with Ben Affleck and

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<v Speaker 1>some other folks like Steve bus Simmy to scare an

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid out of the way, because Steve Busummy is a

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<v Speaker 1>scary guy. Uh wait, I think I might be. I

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<v Speaker 1>think I might be a little off track. Oh well, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>the premise of the movie was that there was this

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<v Speaker 1>enormous asteroid the size of Texas, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>not that guy, you do. Yeah, that that's that's a

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<v Speaker 1>reference that goes over everyone's head because no one, none

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<v Speaker 1>of our listeners have ever played the game Asteroids. What

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<v Speaker 1>some of you have played Asteroids? And maybe so maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe our our buddy Floyd the truck driver, he might

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<v Speaker 1>have hopefully not while driving, well I hope not. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting off track already. So the whole, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>premise of the movie is that there's this giant asteroid

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<v Speaker 1>the size of Texas that's going to be flying at Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they come up with this idea where they

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<v Speaker 1>scramble a bunch of uh minors essentially to shoot up

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<v Speaker 1>into space, land on the asteroid, and plant a nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>device on the asteroid that will blow it up to

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<v Speaker 1>tiny little bits and save the Earth. And so we

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<v Speaker 1>want to address this, um this first, So let's let's

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<v Speaker 1>get this all of the way. That would not work,

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<v Speaker 1>That would that would be a bad thing. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>the power of such a device is hard to imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>How would you create a nuclear device powerful enough to

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<v Speaker 1>explode texas into tiny bits the equivalent of texas flying

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<v Speaker 1>at you. Also, by the way, an asteroid that size

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<v Speaker 1>would pretty much wipe out everybody. Um. You know, when

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<v Speaker 1>we talk about asteroids that are are dangerous enough to

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<v Speaker 1>wipe out a city fifty yards that's big enough. A

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yard asteroid, like an asteroid fifty yards across, we

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<v Speaker 1>have enough power, enough enough force to destroy a city

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<v Speaker 1>if it impacted the city. Um. Now, NASA classifies earth

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<v Speaker 1>threatening asteroids as being a hundred and forty meters or larger.

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<v Speaker 1>But then that conveniently is about the size that we

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<v Speaker 1>can detect them. Well, it's uh. It's important to note

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<v Speaker 1>too that it's happened before. We have been hit with

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<v Speaker 1>with many space objects in the past, and I assume

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<v Speaker 1>to some small degree continue to do. So, Ye's something

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<v Speaker 1>that we hear about in the news every day. But

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<v Speaker 1>every single day the Earth is hit by by tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little object. Granted we haven't been hit by a massive

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid in a really long time, but meteorites hit the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth every day. Sometimes they're so small that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're almost undetectable, but it does happen the But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they've happen in the past. I mean, that's what wiped

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<v Speaker 1>out the dinosaurs was an asteroid impact were possibly common impact,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was a massive impact that that altered the

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's climate, and dinosaurs did not have air conditioning, so

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<v Speaker 1>they were pretty much doomed. Doomed. I figured it was

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<v Speaker 1>their debaucherous lifestyle and it was unsustainable. Now you're thinking

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<v Speaker 1>of Rome, right, you know, I get this confused a lot. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you've ever seen a t rex in

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<v Speaker 1>a toga never mind. So, so why would this plan

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<v Speaker 1>not work with destroying an asteroid with a nuclear device.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's assume that, for for argument's sake, that somehow you

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<v Speaker 1>managed to find a nuclear device capable of breaking up

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<v Speaker 1>a Texas size asteroid while it was hurtling towards Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>And keep in mind this was this this asteroid was

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<v Speaker 1>close to Earth by the time it blows up, Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>it's not nearly as dramatic an ending. Right, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>you've gotta have it close enough to the Earth where

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<v Speaker 1>people are starting to really freak out. Oh and how

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<v Speaker 1>long exactly did they have to prepare for this? It

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<v Speaker 1>was like a couple of days or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was crazy short time period. We would know, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's anything that that size, we would be able

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<v Speaker 1>to spot between Mars and Jupiter, giving us years, literally

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<v Speaker 1>years to prepare. It would not be a last minute thing.

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<v Speaker 1>And um, that's one of the myths that movies perpetuate

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<v Speaker 1>is that you know, you have some uh, some some

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<v Speaker 1>amateur astronomer out in the middle of nowhere just looking

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<v Speaker 1>up and saying, that's weird that star wasn't there yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then and then that information slowly filters its way

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<v Speaker 1>to some official source which immediately clamps down and keeps

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<v Speaker 1>it all secret so that nobody knows that doom is

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<v Speaker 1>on the way until it leaks to the media causing

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<v Speaker 1>a panic. Yeah that we don't want to cause a panic.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely Hollywood related. So why would blowing up the

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid not be a good idea. Well, that asteroids moving

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<v Speaker 1>at a really fast speed and the nuclear warhead is

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<v Speaker 1>not going to slow it down. Okay, so you've still

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<v Speaker 1>got this this material moving at an incredible speed and

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<v Speaker 1>the mass isn't gone. You haven't destroyed the mass. You've

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<v Speaker 1>just spread it out some So instead of it being

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<v Speaker 1>a one massive asteroid hitting the Earth, it's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of them hitting the Earth. And it's like the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between getting hit by a slug and getting hit

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<v Speaker 1>by um shotgun shot. You know, we just spread out

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<v Speaker 1>the area of impact, is what you've done. This is

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<v Speaker 1>mission control. We just wanted to say, oops, yeah, are

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<v Speaker 1>bad so um so yeah, here's here's why this stuff

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<v Speaker 1>would really work in the real world. All Right, We've

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<v Speaker 1>got lots of powerful telescopes pointing in all sorts of directions. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>so the the the myths of the amateur astronomer who

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<v Speaker 1>detects uh something the size the size that's in depicted

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<v Speaker 1>an armageddon is really that's that's busted because it would

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<v Speaker 1>be detected by much more powerful telescopes much earlier, and

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<v Speaker 1>um that information would go to uh, it's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>a clearing house for near Earth objects that could potentially

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<v Speaker 1>cause harm. It's called the Minor Planet Center. It's in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the Minor Planet Center would then take the information that

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<v Speaker 1>was sent to it, which usually would involve the size

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<v Speaker 1>of the asteroid and it's it's shape of orbit around

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun and whether that orbit could potentially uh collide

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<v Speaker 1>with the Earth, send that information out to observatories all

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<v Speaker 1>across the planet. Now, these observatories would then train their

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<v Speaker 1>telescopes onto the object to try and make their own

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<v Speaker 1>calculations based upon their own their own perspective, to see

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<v Speaker 1>if perhaps this would be a quote unquote interesting object. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in astronomical terms, interesting means holy crap, we're all going

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<v Speaker 1>to die. That's the That's what they mean by interesting

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<v Speaker 1>as in potentially impact the Earth. Interesting. And that information

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<v Speaker 1>would then be shared amongst those observatories, and the likelihood

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<v Speaker 1>of a clamp down is really low, just because you

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<v Speaker 1>have so many people who would be involved in this

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<v Speaker 1>and have the information, and lots of them were gonna talk.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them we're gonna talk and say we

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<v Speaker 1>got to prepare now, because if we don't, we're all

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<v Speaker 1>going to die or a significant number of people are

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<v Speaker 1>going to die, because if this asteroid hits a land mass,

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<v Speaker 1>then it's gonna be like, depending on the size of

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<v Speaker 1>the asteroid, it could be like the entire world's nuclear

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<v Speaker 1>arsenal exploding in a single point. Um. If it hits

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<v Speaker 1>the ocean, then it could generate a tsunami of unprecedented

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<v Speaker 1>uh force that could wipe out an entire coast of

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<v Speaker 1>a of a continent. Um. So I mean this is

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<v Speaker 1>serious business. Uh. Fortunately, we haven't discovered anything so far

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<v Speaker 1>that would cause that much of a problem. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>our ability to detect these objects is limited. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the objects that NASA concentrates on is anything that's the

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<v Speaker 1>higher and forty meters or across or larger. And uh.

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<v Speaker 1>The problem is that smaller objects could cause significant harm.

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<v Speaker 1>But finding those objects there is a lot trickier because

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<v Speaker 1>space is big, really Yeah, and in relation to space,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty yard across asteroid or is nothing. It's it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you it's it's impossible to exaggerate how tiny that is. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like a it's like a germ on a bug.

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<v Speaker 1>And and and you happened to be like a blue

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<v Speaker 1>whale that's kind of and even then that's not even close. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't get my mind around it. That's that's how

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<v Speaker 1>it is. We'd like to take a quick break from

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<v Speaker 1>this existential crisis filled with anxiety and fear, to reflect

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<v Speaker 1>for a moment on how lucky we are to have

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<v Speaker 1>this sponsor. So all right, So nuking a an asteroid directly,

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<v Speaker 1>as in trying to blow it up, is not a

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<v Speaker 1>feasible option. So let's let's assume for the moment that

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<v Speaker 1>we have developed technology that helps us, that's improved our

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<v Speaker 1>ability to detect asteroids to the point where any asteroid

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<v Speaker 1>that could potentially cause significant harm to people on Earth,

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<v Speaker 1>to life on Earth, that we have somehow managed to

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<v Speaker 1>to create the technology to detect it. Yeah, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's and it's important to do so because it

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<v Speaker 1>is probable that we will be hit by something largish

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<v Speaker 1>again at some point, Essentially, like it's worthwhile to develop

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<v Speaker 1>this technology exactly. So, yeah, the the risk might be low,

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<v Speaker 1>but the impact would be huge. So you know, even

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<v Speaker 1>taking a low risk perspective of it, the actual impact

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<v Speaker 1>would be so enormous that it is a good argument,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot of people have made this argument to

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<v Speaker 1>um to invest in technology to help prevent it from happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's assume that we have improved technology so we

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<v Speaker 1>can actually detect these asteroids from a pretty good distance.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, it might be years before they get here,

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<v Speaker 1>or we're gonna need that time because we're gonna need

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<v Speaker 1>that time to develop the actual vehicles that the tools

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to use in order to intercept that asteroid.

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<v Speaker 1>So by intercepting it, what could we do to to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid a collision. Well, the real key is deflecting the asteroid.

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<v Speaker 1>You just have to move it a tiny bit, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the for there out you go. The further out you go,

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<v Speaker 1>the tinier that that adjustment needs to be, because by

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<v Speaker 1>the time it gets to the Earth it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the distance is going to be much more enormous.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Just think about like you're walking to have

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<v Speaker 1>a friend standing across from you across the football field,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're both facing each other exactly. Now imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>your friend just turns slightly a little bit to the

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<v Speaker 1>left and starts walking forward. Well, from a distance, it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like there that your friend may actually meet up

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<v Speaker 1>with you once they get all the way across the

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<v Speaker 1>football field. But as they continue, you see that they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting further and further away until they reach essentially a

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<v Speaker 1>point parallel to you, and they are a good distance

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<v Speaker 1>from you right there, further down the field, like further

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<v Speaker 1>to the right or to the left, whichever way the

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<v Speaker 1>person turned. Um. That's kind of the idea here is

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<v Speaker 1>that if you can catch an asteroid early enough and

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<v Speaker 1>deflected just a couple of degrees, then you've solved the

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<v Speaker 1>problem because it's going to miss the Earth by millions

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<v Speaker 1>of miles. Else But how do you deflect it? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of different options. Yeah, I read uh

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<v Speaker 1>too specifically that seemed to be the options people are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking of most like what's that? Um. One of them,

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<v Speaker 1>ironically enough, was to use nuclear devices, Yes, but not

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<v Speaker 1>to destroy, but to nudge. Right. Yeah, The idea is

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<v Speaker 1>being that you would you would detonate the device over

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<v Speaker 1>the asteroid. This would actually, um cause a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>things to happen, And it's you know, it's interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>again that we're talking about something. You know, you might say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you just said nuking is bad. Well, in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>what would happen is that you would uh create an

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<v Speaker 1>uh A nuclear radiation would create this uh, this vaporizing

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<v Speaker 1>energy and vaporize the surface or a section of the

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<v Speaker 1>surface of the asteroid. Now that's going to cause that

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<v Speaker 1>part of the surface to eject material into space. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for a reaction action, there's an equal and

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<v Speaker 1>opposite reaction, So that ejection from space is actually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>as a pushing force on the asteroid. And it's tiny,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's all you need necessary. You know, that might

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<v Speaker 1>be all you need to move that asteroid out of

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<v Speaker 1>the pathway of the Earth. So yeah, um, you're just

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<v Speaker 1>using it again to to give the asteroid a little push. Um. Actually,

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<v Speaker 1>most of the the options I've seen are some variation

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<v Speaker 1>on pushing the asteroid. It's just lots of different potential

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<v Speaker 1>ways we could do that. Well, that's true. I did

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<v Speaker 1>read uh Yeah, to be fair, I did read of

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<v Speaker 1>the possibility of using an inert uh device, nothing that explodes,

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<v Speaker 1>but basically a bullet if you will, to shove. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>using using kinetic force to push the asteroid out of

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<v Speaker 1>the way. Yeah, that is another potential um solution, although

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's again one of those that that has its

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<v Speaker 1>own set of difficulties. But Yeah, that's that is what

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<v Speaker 1>I've also heard where you're just using a kinetic force

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<v Speaker 1>to to hap the asteroid out of the way. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's important to note that, UM. What we really

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<v Speaker 1>can't stress how much detection and identifying the the object

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<v Speaker 1>path how important that is because UM, there there's an

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<v Speaker 1>effect called the Yarkowsky effect. Did you read about this, um,

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<v Speaker 1>As the object gets close to the sun, closer to

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun, UM. And I'm not talking about directly on

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<v Speaker 1>a path too, but you know, as it gets closer

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<v Speaker 1>and closer to the Sun in the center of our

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<v Speaker 1>solar system, it's going to heat up. UM. And for

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<v Speaker 1>a larger object it doesn't matter so much. UM. But

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<v Speaker 1>according uh to an article that I um than an

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<v Speaker 1>article I read, the the Yarkovsky effect basically means that

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<v Speaker 1>once the the object starts to heat up, the heat

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<v Speaker 1>can affect its path. It can basically started to move

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<v Speaker 1>in a slightly different direction. So you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to we would need to be able to know

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<v Speaker 1>exactly where the or as least as close enough to

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<v Speaker 1>uh where the object is going to be, so that

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<v Speaker 1>we can accurately hit it with something. If we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to try to use a brute force method of moving

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<v Speaker 1>the the asteroid out of the way, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the attempts to move asteroids may depend upon sun,

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<v Speaker 1>the sunlight and the Sun's power. Because um there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different options that would harness the power

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sun in order to create a pulling effect

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<v Speaker 1>or pushing effect on the the asteroid. For example, there's

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<v Speaker 1>one UM one possible technique where we would coat the

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid with white and dark coating like paint or dust

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and that would uh cause it to move

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<v Speaker 1>because the Sun's energy would actually push against the asteroid.

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<v Speaker 1>And if we coded the rights the correct side, not

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<v Speaker 1>the right side, I mean there's no real right or left,

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<v Speaker 1>but the correct side of the asteroid, it could push

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<v Speaker 1>the asteroid those couple of degrees. By the time it

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<v Speaker 1>gets to where the Earth is, it's millions of miles away,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's millions of miles off course from hitting

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth. UM Similarly, there were suggestions that maybe we

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<v Speaker 1>could create a solar sale that would attach we we

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<v Speaker 1>would use a like a probe to attach a solar

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<v Speaker 1>sale to an asteroid, and the solar sale would catch

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun's energy and be propelled by the solar wind,

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<v Speaker 1>essentially to pull the asteroid again outside of its pathway. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's kind of a far fetched one, really. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely a lot more challenging than say, coading an

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid with a light colored material. Um. But then there's

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<v Speaker 1>also the idea of using a net, an enormous net

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<v Speaker 1>to encapsulate the the the asteroid, and the net would

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<v Speaker 1>again act as almost like a solar sale. It would

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<v Speaker 1>it would react again, you know, the sun. The Sun's

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<v Speaker 1>energy would push against the net, which again would alter

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<v Speaker 1>the course of the asteroid. Um. Mirrors are another potential

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<v Speaker 1>UH solution, where you you launch a device that is

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<v Speaker 1>going to deploy mirrors around the asteroid to direct sunlight

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<v Speaker 1>to specific points on the asteroid to again push it

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<v Speaker 1>out of the way. Um. Well, everyone knows that asteroids

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<v Speaker 1>are vain, so if you, you know, put the mirrors

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<v Speaker 1>on the far side of the Earth, they'll go toward

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<v Speaker 1>the mirrors and go, oh, my best side, I look good. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there are a couple of other elements. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple other ways of nudging an asteroid all

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<v Speaker 1>the way that don't involve sunlight at all. UH. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of them, and one of them's strapping a rocket

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<v Speaker 1>to it. So essentially you have a UM, do we

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<v Speaker 1>have to land somebody on the asteroid. No, not necessarily,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to have some sort of of remotely operated

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<v Speaker 1>probe that could embed into the asteroid itself and then

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<v Speaker 1>use um have enough fuel in it to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to push as a rocket to push the asteroid out

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<v Speaker 1>of the way of the pathway of collision. Now it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't have to push very hard, it doesn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>push for very long. Again, as long as you catch

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<v Speaker 1>the asteroid early enough that we have to keep stressing

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<v Speaker 1>that this is This is assuming that we capture, that

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<v Speaker 1>we detect the asteroid and years and years and years

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<v Speaker 1>in advance, and that we're able to react quickly enough

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<v Speaker 1>so that by the time the probe reaches the asteroid,

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<v Speaker 1>because you remember, this isn't gonna be overnight. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>take time for the for whatever solution we deploy to

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<v Speaker 1>get to the asteroid. Like it maybe you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>launched something and we don't know if it's gonna work

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<v Speaker 1>for another two years or three years. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of scary to think about, but that's true. So

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<v Speaker 1>UM Yeah, you have to figure out a way where

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<v Speaker 1>you have this this device, and it has to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to carry enough fuel so that it can actually

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<v Speaker 1>deploy properly. A lot of people suggest that this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of approach would be best if it were already space born.

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<v Speaker 1>So in other words, we already had some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>launching platform in space so that the uh, the individual

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<v Speaker 1>probes would not need so much fuel to both escape

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<v Speaker 1>the arts gravity and land on an asteroid and then

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<v Speaker 1>propel it away. Um. That that does prose a problem.

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<v Speaker 1>But then another one is the gravity tractor. Ah. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I when I looked up the gravity tractor, I

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<v Speaker 1>had to check just a moment ago, and yes, someone

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<v Speaker 1>has named their band gravity Tractor. Good for them, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>lead singer John Dear, nice, thank you. Um, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the gravity tractor is fascinating, um, because this is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>using a different body and the gravity of another body

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<v Speaker 1>and body that we would launch into space to pull

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<v Speaker 1>the asteroid away without even I mean there's not the

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<v Speaker 1>point here is not even a touch the asteroid. It's

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<v Speaker 1>to get something near enough to it to affect um

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<v Speaker 1>the asteroids path with another gravitational field. Right, Because you

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<v Speaker 1>gotta remember everything in the universe exerts a gravitational pull

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<v Speaker 1>on everything else. It's just that that poll is dependent

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<v Speaker 1>upon distance and mass and lots of other stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>they you know, so if you are able to put

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<v Speaker 1>a massive enough object close enough to the asteroid, you

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<v Speaker 1>could alter its pathway. There is there are some problems

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<v Speaker 1>with the gravity tractor, really yeah. One of them is

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to figure out are a Well, you

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<v Speaker 1>want the gravity tractor to pull the asteroid away from

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<v Speaker 1>the path of collision. You don't want the asteroid to

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<v Speaker 1>pull the gravity tractor into the path of collision. So

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<v Speaker 1>so that means that you would have to have some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of propulsion system aboard the gravity tractor to make

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<v Speaker 1>little course corrections and continue to gently pull the asteroid

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<v Speaker 1>out of its pathway. Well, if you have propulsion, then

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<v Speaker 1>there's the possibility that propulsion that you're going to when

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<v Speaker 1>you fire your rockets to to give it a boost,

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<v Speaker 1>that force may push against the asteroid, thus negating the

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<v Speaker 1>gravity pull that you are exerting upon it. So essentially

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<v Speaker 1>you're getting a net zero result because that you're you're

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<v Speaker 1>pulling it out with gravity, but you're pushing on it

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<v Speaker 1>with your propulsion. System. So finding a way where you

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<v Speaker 1>could create some sort of gravity tractor where the propulsion

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<v Speaker 1>system would not actually push against the asteroid itself is

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<v Speaker 1>would be part of the solution. Plus this would be

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<v Speaker 1>really really expensive. It's a much more costly approach and

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily uh the most easy to implement compared to

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<v Speaker 1>other approaches. So I don't know that this is necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>likely to happen. I mean, if if enough research goes

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<v Speaker 1>into it where it proves that this is the most

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<v Speaker 1>effective way, then sure I can see it happening, just

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<v Speaker 1>because people would finally say, all right, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to invest in it, because we can't. We

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<v Speaker 1>can't just play roulette all our existence. We have to

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<v Speaker 1>prepare for this. UM. But I would imagine that we'd

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<v Speaker 1>probably go with some other route before we tried this one. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>An article I read suggested that the the gravity tractor

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<v Speaker 1>would have to be at least uh twenty tons in

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<v Speaker 1>order to safely toe you know, effectively to I should say,

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<v Speaker 1>not safely effectively to and an asteroid away from the Earth. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I can't you know, I just imagine that's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be very hard to get out of the Earth's orbit.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, our gravity. I'm sorry to leave

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<v Speaker 1>the gravitational field of the Earth to launch something that

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<v Speaker 1>big into space. But you know, I'm not a rocket scientist,

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<v Speaker 1>so nor are you a brain surgeon. Now I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>a rocket surgeon either, so um, well that's good. I

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<v Speaker 1>can just imagine that going wrong. I hope you guys

0:23:54.200 --> 0:23:58.000
<v Speaker 1>are enjoying this classic episode of tech stuff. I personally

0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:02.200
<v Speaker 1>find it really inspirational to think about solutions to big problems,

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<v Speaker 1>almost as inspiring as I find this next sponsor to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Another potential, although it's far fetched, possibility of getting rid

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<v Speaker 1>of an asteroid that um that's coming at you you

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<v Speaker 1>let robots eat it. Really Yeah, that's Robert Lamb actually

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<v Speaker 1>wrote about this. He has a great article on the

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<v Speaker 1>Our Our Discovery news site called top ten ways to

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<v Speaker 1>stop an asteroid, and one of them is talking about

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<v Speaker 1>using them robots that would actually essentially kind of chew

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<v Speaker 1>up the asteroid and then shoot out the tiny bits

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<v Speaker 1>of asteroid uh into space electromagnetically um and essentially disperse

0:24:54.240 --> 0:24:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the asteroid while it's still really really really far away

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<v Speaker 1>from the Earth. Because keep in mind, if it's really

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<v Speaker 1>far away on the Earth, then not all of that

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:03.840
<v Speaker 1>mass is going to hit the Earth the way it

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<v Speaker 1>would in the beginning of UM the or or at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of ARM again rather so, Yeah, these these robots,

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<v Speaker 1>uh eating poop. They eat asteroids and they poop asteroid dust.

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<v Speaker 1>I am. I wanted to go there, and I said, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna say it. You're not gonna say they

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<v Speaker 1>eating poop. Nope, But you did it for me. So

0:25:25.160 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 1>I could see the look on your face and I

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.359
<v Speaker 1>knew that you were thinking that. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do it. UM, well, I wanted to recommend. Yeah,

0:25:33.600 --> 0:25:35.320
<v Speaker 1>so this is this is definitely something that we need

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<v Speaker 1>to think about. I mean, it's it's true that we

0:25:37.840 --> 0:25:39.640
<v Speaker 1>need to think about invest in it. There are some

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:44.840
<v Speaker 1>talks about private companies actually investing in this UM sort

0:25:44.880 --> 0:25:47.719
<v Speaker 1>of technology, this sort of approach UM, which is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of cool that you know, it's not just not just

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<v Speaker 1>depending upon governmental agencies that have lots of different you know,

0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:57.280
<v Speaker 1>things pulling on them. UM. I did read that UM

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<v Speaker 1>scientists don't seem to believe that there's any thing likely

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<v Speaker 1>to hit us in the next hundred years or so

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<v Speaker 1>right at the earliest, well at least nothing that we

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<v Speaker 1>can see, Yeah, exactly. So there's still the possibility that

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:12.239
<v Speaker 1>something smaller could hit and still cause massive damage. It's

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.240
<v Speaker 1>just not gonna necessarily cause global damage, but it could

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:19.679
<v Speaker 1>cause catastrophic local damage, you know. Um. Yeah, there's some

0:26:20.000 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>interesting organizations out there that are dedicated to trying to

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<v Speaker 1>fix this problem. There's one called the B six one

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<v Speaker 1>to Foundation, uh, and they their goal is to have

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<v Speaker 1>a workable solution by So that's coming up pretty pretty soon. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>If you guys want to learn more about the topic, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I can recommend a couple of things and how stuff works.

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<v Speaker 1>We actually have two articles that you go into more

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<v Speaker 1>detail about the stuff we've talked about. One is called

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<v Speaker 1>could we really blow up an incoming asteroid with a

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<v Speaker 1>nuclear bomb? And one is called could we stop an

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<v Speaker 1>asteroid on a collision course towards the Earth? And also uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a great program that aired on Discovery UM called

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<v Speaker 1>Bad Universe, and it was it's hosted by Phil Plate,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bad Astronomer. Phil Plate, by the way, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite bloggers and scientists out there, because he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those scientists who really dedicates his work to explaining

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<v Speaker 1>science to the layman. In terms that are easy, easy

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<v Speaker 1>to understand. It makes science fun and exciting, and he

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<v Speaker 1>does not shy away from topics like this, where you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, yeah, it'll kill you, so that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta fix it. So he's very matter of fact about it. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>really intelligent guy, very entertaining guy. So if you have

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<v Speaker 1>not read his stuff or watched his show, I do

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<v Speaker 1>recommend trying to catch that because it's he's a great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>And he also has a really amusing Twitter feed, and

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<v Speaker 1>he interacts with a lot of other uh Twitter Wisenheimer's

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<v Speaker 1>out there, like Jonathan Colton, Paul and Storm, you know, um,

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<v Speaker 1>Will Wheaton. There's there's this kind of Twitter rottie that

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<v Speaker 1>have have formed up and uh and so um he

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<v Speaker 1>often will chat with those folks in interesting and entertaining ways.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's and he shares a lot of really cool

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<v Speaker 1>science news through his Twitter feed as well. I showed

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<v Speaker 1>you that that amazing photo of the Space Shuttle Endeavor

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<v Speaker 1>across the Sun. Yeah, yeah, that was that was courtesy

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<v Speaker 1>of of Mr Phil Plate. So yeah, he's written extensively

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<v Speaker 1>about this, and he's he's talked about it in his

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<v Speaker 1>blogs and on on on the show Bad Universe. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so I recommend that as well. And uh, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have any other potential solutions off the top of

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<v Speaker 1>my head. Do you have anything else you want to

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<v Speaker 1>add before we conclude? Not in particular? Now, well, then, um,

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<v Speaker 1>I would suggest we all just take a moment to

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<v Speaker 1>uh to to ridicule the documentary armagedon uh for its

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<v Speaker 1>portrayal of how we would uh alter the course of

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<v Speaker 1>a of an asteroid by blowing it up real good,

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<v Speaker 1>uh Texas style. But you have to land a space

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<v Speaker 1>shuttle on it first. Yeah, and you have to sing

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<v Speaker 1>the song I quoted at the beginning at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, and Bruce Willis has to die. Oh spoiler alert. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I was interested in though, that scientists are also talking

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<v Speaker 1>about the possibility of of mining asteroids in a in

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<v Speaker 1>an attempt to understand them better. Um yeah, I did

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<v Speaker 1>read that. Uh you know, although we may not necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>be ready to to destroy one just yet, that scientists

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<v Speaker 1>even alter its path, right right, Um, But scientists are

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<v Speaker 1>considering the possibility if uh, you know, since they are

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<v Speaker 1>tracking some asteroids that are coming near to Earth and

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<v Speaker 1>near and again space is big, so near as a

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<v Speaker 1>relative term. Um that they're talking about the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>visiting some near Earth asteroids with the possibility of mining,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, taking some samples of the rocks that are

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<v Speaker 1>there on the asteroid to get a better understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>elements in the universe and bringing and back to Earth, which, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>is a really cool idea. I don't I don't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>they would send people to do that. Um. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of doing the complex calculation necessary to hit a

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<v Speaker 1>moving object you know that's coming around, um, take samples

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<v Speaker 1>and then return to Earth. That's that's really fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not exactly the same topic, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a really cool application of science and hope that

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<v Speaker 1>if they can do that that it will be fruitful

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll learn a lot from it. Yeah, and asteroid

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<v Speaker 1>mining may actually lead to other things as well, like,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, if we find an asteroid that has ice

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<v Speaker 1>deposits on it, that could be a way of finding

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<v Speaker 1>not just water, but actually generating oxygen for other space missions. Alright, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>that wraps up this classic episode of tech stuff. I

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<v Speaker 1>hope you enjoyed that terrifying walk down memory Lane. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not all scary We've got a lot of very smart

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<v Speaker 1>people working on this problem, and there are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of potential solutions that could really be effective, just not

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