1 00:00:10,800 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome into a week five edition of 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Chargers Weekly. Alongside Matt, Buddy Smith Chris Avery here with 3 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,159 Speaker 1: you Chargers three and one. And you know, I know 4 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 1: they prepared, and I know that they were ready to play, 5 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: but I don't think they would have won without the 6 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: air drum by Matt money Smith to kick off Monday 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: night football. I just talked to you about it. I 8 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: promise you. I think that dads set the tone for 9 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: the night, bunny. You know what, As I said off 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 1: camera after DJ was like, hey, dude, the videos got 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,880 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety thousand views after about fifteen minutes 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: when he had posted it, I said, look, I'm your monkey, DJ. 13 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: You tell the monkey to dance. The monkey dances. That's 14 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: how this thing works. And happy we could set the 15 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 1: tone and the Chargers could piggyback on our popularity and 16 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: deliver something else that the people wanted to consume on 17 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: Monday night. Coincidentally, I'm wearing DJ's moved to start to 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: go to his Twitter account. I think it's approaching a 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: million views now we have we have local stations around 20 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: the country asking for permission to use it. I mean, 21 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: it was quite the scene. I thought Justin Herbert was 22 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna be center stage, but it was Matt Muddy Smith. Yeah. Well, 23 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: you know, some of us can air drum better than others. 24 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: And when you see exceptional air drumming, you can't help 25 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: but consume it, appreciate it, and share it with the 26 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: rest of the world. And I'm happy I could play 27 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 1: my little part. Buddy. How fun was Monday night, especially 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: to go up twenty one nothing and really make a 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:43,039 Speaker 1: statement in the AFC West. You come off beating the 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 1: Chiefs and then you say, okay, three straight touchdowns against 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Yeah. Look, I'm not gonna hide it. It's 32 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: these are the games I want the Chargers to win 33 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: more than any other, the two every year, you know, 34 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: beat the Raiders. It's I feel Raider Week. I feel 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,120 Speaker 1: it in the players, I feel it from the fans, 36 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 1: as as the play by play voice of the Chargers 37 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: radio broadcast. I feel it too. You know. I hate 38 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: the Raiders, you know, and when they face and I'll 39 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: qualify that, when they face the Chargers, there is a 40 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: different vibe to the opponent. There just is, and I 41 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: think it permeates the organization, the fan base. I embrace it. 42 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: I love rivalries. I love that Joey Bosa got I 43 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: love that Derek Carr got after the Chargers and talking 44 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: about home games and San Diego and home games in 45 00:02:28,200 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: LA and this is our time. I love planting those 46 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: nefarious seeds. And I love Joey Bosa going right back 47 00:02:34,320 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: at him and h and saying, hey, look he got 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 1: shook and we loved getting him. Shit. It's great. And 49 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, I don't love Derek Carr feeling like he's 50 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: got to puff his chest out and come back at Joey. 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: You know what's the old saying, when you lose, say nothing, 52 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: When you win, say less. You know where the loss, 53 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: Just get back and roll with your guys and they're 54 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: the only ones that matter to your DC. But no, 55 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: and he had to go back. So now we've got 56 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: this week eighteen seventy game in the season to look 57 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: forward or two. So yeah, I say I enjoyed it, 58 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: and would be an understatement. I thoroughly enjoyed that game. 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 1: And you know what, I liked that the Raiders made 60 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: a come back and made it interesting and it got 61 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 1: a little tense there on the third quarter. There was 62 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 1: great energy at Soapy Stadium all night. I mean, it 63 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,079 Speaker 1: really was a good freaking time. It was a lot 64 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: of fun. I agree with you one hundred percent. I 65 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 1: love the car said what he said, and I love 66 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: that Joey went back at him. This game hasn't met 67 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 1: anything in almost twenty years money. So you know, you 68 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 1: talk to guys like LT and showing Mary they hate 69 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: the Raiders, they love beating the Raiders, and to have 70 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 1: this rivalry kind of means something. I know it's early 71 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: in the year, but you know, Raiders with three and o, 72 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: Chargers two and one. I remember growing up when it 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: was Redskins Cowboys and that we want Dallas chance. I mean, 74 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: that's the type of stuff throughout the week that gets 75 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: fans engaged, excited, the hugs in the in the lower 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: bowl when you score a touchdown. I mean, I really 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: felt like it was almost a little bit of throwback 78 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: football on Monday night, just because of the talk leading 79 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: up to it and the way the Chargers responded to 80 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: beating the Chiefs and really taking this game really seriously 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,640 Speaker 1: when it comes to wanting to beat the Raiders. Yeah. Look, 82 00:04:14,680 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: I think echo everything you say. I just want to 83 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:21,919 Speaker 1: make one additional point because I think go back to 84 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: last year. There were no fans in the stadium, so 85 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: depending on what the television put on the broadcast, I 86 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: don't know if fans saw it, but you know in 87 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: the game that the Chargers we thought won because the 88 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: parum catch was signal touchdown and they're celebrating. You know, 89 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: the Raiders are starting to get shaky and fall apart 90 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,679 Speaker 1: a little bit after this nice start, and their playoff 91 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: hopes are starting to come into getting a little blurry 92 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: now after being pretty clear focus. A lot of people 93 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: thought they're gonna make the playoffs last year, so that 94 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: would have been a huge punch for them to take 95 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: at that time. So understandably, the Chargers are celebrating in 96 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: the end zone, call gets overturned and the entire Raiders 97 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: sideline rushes the field. You've got at least ten fifteen 98 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: players doing the little airplane thing along the Charger sideline, 99 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,360 Speaker 1: really rubbing it in. And I think that plan of 100 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: the seed I think that got that got under the 101 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Chargers skin a little bit. They end up winning the 102 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: overtime game in Vegas with the I was in play, 103 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: and you could see how much that meant to them 104 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 1: to get that win, you know, to kind of be 105 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: part of that four game win streak to close the season. 106 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: So I think we you know, as you said, I 107 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: think we started to see the seeds of this rivalry. 108 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: You know, you know, some green shoots were sprouting last year, 109 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 1: and man, if this is kind of where it's headed, 110 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: it's gonna be awesome. And I think that's the same 111 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 1: with the Chiefs. Kind of the point I'm getting at here, 112 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:44,440 Speaker 1: Chris is I think we would like nothing more than 113 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: for every time the Chiefs, the Broncos, and the Raiders 114 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: see the Chargers on their schedule, it feels like a 115 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: rivalry game and all of them start arguing like, yeah, 116 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 1: you know what, this is the biggest one of the year, 117 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: Chargers circle it. These are our two biggest games that 118 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: I would love to see the Chargers get back that 119 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:02,839 Speaker 1: like they were in the two thousands with Merriman and Ladanian, 120 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Tomlinson aware of all the teams in the AFC West, 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: this is the one the opponent is circling is we 122 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: got we got to win these and it feels like 123 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: it's starting to trend in that direction. We talked about 124 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: this on our Final Drive podcast. I want to ask you, 125 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,600 Speaker 1: I remember last year when the Chargers won four straight 126 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,679 Speaker 1: to in the year and people are saying like, oh, 127 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 1: why are you winning? You know, let's get a better 128 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: draft pick, or it's you know, these are empty wins. 129 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,359 Speaker 1: You look, now, Justin Herbert has won his last five 130 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: starts in the division. How much if any do you 131 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,960 Speaker 1: think that winning those games winning that. I was in 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: game in Vegas on Thursday night. You know, I know 133 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: Mahomes wasn't in the week seventeen game. But you beat 134 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: Denver at home, you beat the Raiders, you beat the Chiefs, 135 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 1: and then I feel like there's a little bit of 136 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: a just like, hey, we can do this. And it 137 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: did carry over a little bit. Am I wrong in 138 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: thinking that? No, I don't. I think specific to Justin Herbert, 139 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: it was incredibly important because remember the four game wins 140 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 1: streak followed the forty five nothing destruction at the hands 141 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: of the Patriots, So you're coming off that game and 142 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: that was the first of the four straight wins, So 143 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: I think it was important like, oh, hey, you know, 144 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: the win over the Falcons isn't a fluke. We're going 145 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 1: to back that up with a win over the Raiders 146 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: in Vegas. Is there's still have an outside shot at 147 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: making the playoffs, and you know, you close with those 148 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: three straight win over division opponents. Also, I think the 149 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: way that the season had played out right and the 150 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: way that the team lost to the Saints in overtime, 151 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 1: lost to the Chiefs in his first start, lost to 152 00:07:38,640 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers after being up twenty four to three, 153 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: I think I think there's too much losing for Justin Herbert. So, 154 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, I do think there is something to figuring 155 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 1: out how to win games, you know, how to close games, 156 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: how to have fourth quarter drives or overtime drives in 157 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: the case of that Raiders game that end up leading 158 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: to wins. And look, I don't think it's coincidental that 159 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: the guy already has two fourth order drives for wins 160 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: this year. You know, I do think there is carry 161 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,800 Speaker 1: over there, and I believe those four games. And look, 162 00:08:06,840 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 1: I think this goes to you know, just if you 163 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: believe in football karma or anything. I think karmically, Shun 164 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Slater should have been a top five pick and he 165 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: slid to the Chargers at thirteen. You know, Derwin James 166 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,559 Speaker 1: should have been a top five pick and he slid 167 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,880 Speaker 1: to the Chargers. At seventeen when they went nine and seven, 168 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: and you know, after starting zero on four and I 169 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 1: was like, oh, throwing the tie, I'd get a great pick. 170 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:28,920 Speaker 1: You know, these things have a way of working out. 171 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: You know, you should never want to lose games in 172 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: the NFL. There's too few of them and there's too 173 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 1: much to take away from victories. Speaking of Derwin James, 174 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: we're waiting for that pick. His first interception since that 175 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Sunday night game at Pittsburgh as twenty eighteen really sealed 176 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: the deal. And whaty We're doing this every year, picks 177 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: for Popeyes every Chargers game this season. Charges he gets 178 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: an interception, you show your game recap email to your 179 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 1: local Popeyes and get a free chicken sandwich when you 180 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: purchase at chicken sandwich at regular menu price. I told 181 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: you a Sante had him eating last week. Darwin's got 182 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 1: him eating this week. And you know the defense, specifically 183 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: man the first half, one first down for the Raiders 184 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 1: after the first quarter, zero yards, zero first downs. Something 185 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: was working. They bottled up the run game. And Joey 186 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: said they got to car early and often, and I 187 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: really think that's set the tone. Look, Joey loves playing 188 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: the Raiders. Joey love you know, he embraces it, man, 189 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: and he loves playing Derek Carr. He is not and 190 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 1: I get it. He plays him twice a year and 191 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: Car has been the quarterback that's been here the longest, 192 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, with Joey, but he sacked him seven times, 193 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,839 Speaker 1: you know, and he's probably hit him seventy times. He 194 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: loves it, and that's set the tone. And I think 195 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: he's absolutely right. That was not the Derek Carr that 196 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: we saw in the first three games, who would stand 197 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: tall in the pocket, deliver the ball downfield, led the 198 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 1: league in twenty plus air yard completions. He wanted none 199 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: of it. He was turned in it all down, you know, 200 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: on a fourth and whatever it was, I think it 201 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: was a fourth and six or something he got, you know, 202 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: he threw it short of the sticks, which is something 203 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: that you know, if you believe kind of what a 204 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: lot of people say, drives Gruden crazy about Derek Carr 205 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: and why seemingly every offseason you would hear about the 206 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: Raiders being around some of these quarterback trades, you know, 207 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,120 Speaker 1: in the conversation in the Matt Stafford deal, and it 208 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: seemed like he was able to get past that because 209 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,640 Speaker 1: he had an awesome first three games. There's no deny 210 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: in it. I mean, the guy was spreading the ball around. 211 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 1: Henry Ruggs was a deep threat. And that's why I 212 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: think so many people And look, I don't care what 213 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: Joey says if it offends somebody. If he's speaking the truth, 214 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: he's speaking the truth. So what the guy has a 215 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: bad game, Derek Carr had a terrible game. He had 216 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: a good third quarter, and he had three terrible quarters. 217 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 1: And there's no way around that. And Joey just brought 218 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: that up. Now, look, the guy's just got to shake 219 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: it off. He's got the Bears this week, bounce back 220 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,120 Speaker 1: and then get back to win. But there's nothing wrong 221 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:58,760 Speaker 1: with Joey's saying. You get in that guy's lap, and 222 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: you get in there regularly, and he turns into a 223 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: different player. And I think we saw that. And just 224 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: to kind of add what your actual question was, Chris 225 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 1: is I thought whoever ran the ball effectively was gonna 226 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: win this game because I figured both ends we're going 227 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: to probably play a big role, you know, both defensive ends, 228 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: you know, beat Max Crosby and Gockway Joey and whomever 229 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 1: else was opposite to him. We're going to have good 230 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: days or good nights. I should say. It was money 231 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 1: in a football and sure enough, the run blocking of 232 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 1: the old line and the way Austin Eckler ran was 233 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: freaking awesome. It was. And now you're bringing an opponent 234 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: in Cleveland Browns who have the best rushing attack and 235 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: football Kareem Hunt, Nick Chubb. This is another tough test. 236 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: This may be the toughest test so far for the Bolts. Money. Well, 237 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: what I'm anxious to see and what we have seen, 238 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: and this is to me, what's so impressive about Brandon 239 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,679 Speaker 1: Staley and Ronaldo Hill and his whole staff whatever. They 240 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: have a plan, you know, and the plan is not 241 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,119 Speaker 1: statistically based. It is points based. What is our defensive 242 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: approach in order to win this game and prevent points 243 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: from Beans? But that look ultimately, when you when you 244 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: strip the defense down to its bones, what is the 245 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,559 Speaker 1: point of defense to prevent forward progress at the goal line? 246 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: That's the point. So last week or on Monday night, 247 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: I should say the goal was shut down the run game. 248 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: We feel like we're fine with explosive plays. This isn't 249 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. We're good letting them take their shots here 250 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: and there. Let's lock up there and Waller and let's 251 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: shut down the run game. And man, they shut that 252 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: run game down. You know, Limball had a huge game, 253 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: Tillery played great, Joey Bosa was awesome, and man, I 254 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: cannot say enough about Kaiser White and Drew Tranquil, specifically Tranquil. 255 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: Tranquil is a freaking monster. The way he times his 256 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 1: blitzes his run fills his ability to diagnose as quickly 257 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: as he does. You know, Staley cut him loose, and 258 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: it was clear that it was a different plan this week, 259 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: and it held them to under three yards per carry. 260 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: So I'm anxious to see you know, you look at 261 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: it and and it's like, oh, Chargers, I have the number 262 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: twenty nine run defense like ah, that was by designed 263 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: now against the Cowboys, and that was by designed against 264 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: the Chiefs. So I'm anxious to see what he's dialing 265 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: up here for these Browns, considering, you know, they got 266 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: two backs that are carrying the ball over five yards 267 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: per carrying Hunt and Chubb. And it's worth noting no 268 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 1: Justin Jones, no Kenneth Murray Junior, no Chris Harris Jr. 269 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: So three key starters out and distill sustain that performance 270 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. Pretty impressive. Weddy, we had a great 271 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: show today. Joe ready associated press those the Browns, those 272 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: the Chargers. He's gonna join us. Brandon Thorne. I love 273 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: this guy. Offensive line defensive line expert. I think this 274 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 1: game is going to be decided in the trenches. He's 275 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 1: gonna have some good insight on Slater, Garrett Clowney, Bosa, 276 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: and just the Chargers offensive line in general through the 277 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: first quarter of the season. But we're gonna start with 278 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: the great Kevin Harlan, Who's going to be on the 279 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: call with Trent Green this Sunday on CBS. Well, Buddy, 280 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: it's always a treat with Kevin Harlan's on the call. 281 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 1: We get them back to back and Kevin, what a 282 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: big game early in the season, the Brown's coming to 283 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium, A battle of three or one teams. Well, 284 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the best games on the schedule. 285 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: We love doing up and coming emerging teams, and certainly 286 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: the Chargers have kind of been in that position now 287 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: for the last year since Justin's arrived, and now there's 288 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: a new coach and just a stellar roster and a 289 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: wonderful team and some terrific wins. The one in Kansas 290 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: City was great. So we consider it Trent Green and 291 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: I and Melanie Collins our sideline. First, we considered an 292 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: honor to do the teams that are kind of, you know, 293 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: like now taking center stage. And that's certainly what the 294 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: Chargers are doing. Kevin. You got to see it on 295 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 1: on Monday night, and look, you saw Justin Herbert. You've 296 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: seen Justin Herbert before, but just being able to see 297 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 1: the progression and kind of as you call games and 298 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 1: you see great quarterbacks week in week out, you always 299 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: have great games to call. Just kind of where you 300 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: you think Justin is in that conversation of playing quarterback 301 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: at a high level in this league. I think, man, 302 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: I think he is right there. I can't think of 303 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: you know, It's it's interesting. All these great quarterbacks have 304 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: have a thing that they do that is just staying 305 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: in their lane. The way Rogers plays, the way Mahomes plays, 306 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: and the way Justin plays, They've they've got this certain 307 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: style of playing that is under themselves and that's kind 308 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: of how Justin is now. Look at we're all three 309 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: of us are football history fans as well as what's 310 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: going on now. And he looks like the traditional quarterback. 311 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: Like if you had to take right ten scouts, the 312 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 1: best scouts in pro football and say design the perfect quarterback. Well, 313 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 1: he's got to be tall, he's got to have a 314 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: big arm. He'll stand in the pocket, he'll take a hit, 315 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: he can read and make his progressions. He has a 316 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: command in the in the huddle. He is a locker 317 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: room presence, Like it seems like this kid has like 318 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 1: he checks in every box and it's amazing. I think 319 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: we forget that he was taken as high as he 320 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: was because around the draft that he was taken in 321 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: his name, while prominent, was not like the most prominent 322 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:32,120 Speaker 1: in terms of quarterbacking. And here he is, you know, 323 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: as ahead of schedule and playing spectacular football. And he's 324 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: a joy to watch. And what I guess I find 325 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: is enduring is anything because he seems humble, he seems 326 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 1: like not too taken by the moment, the light's not 327 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: too bright, and he's just this calm, even presence. And 328 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: there's another quarterback I think of like that. His name 329 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: was Tom Brady, and right Brady just kinda that doesn't 330 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: link same expression. Leads doesn't have to be the loudest voice, 331 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 1: but is the strongest voice, and he has those kind 332 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: of marketings. To me, Kevin, I don't know how much 333 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: you knew about Bryan and Staley coming into this year. 334 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: Obviously that the Rams had the number one defensive football 335 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 1: last year, but what he's brought to this organization so 336 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: early on, there's a sense of belief. I think in 337 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: all three phases, this team seems very connected and together. 338 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: Just your assessment of what you've seen from coach Staley 339 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: and just maybe any conversations you had with him. You know, 340 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: we've only met with him once and that was last 341 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: year we did a Rams game and he had, of 342 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: course the terrific d we're talking about, and it was 343 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: on zoom, So I can't say it's face to face, 344 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: But what I can tell you is that there is 345 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 1: a certain presence about these young coaches. Now. I'm not 346 00:17:56,320 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: sure if being around Sean mc gives them a roadmap 347 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: to follow in terms of how they conduct themselves, how 348 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: they communicate with players, the media and everybody else. But 349 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur and certainly Brandon have got that that quality 350 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: that when they walk in a room, or that when 351 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 1: they enter a situation, you know all of a sudden 352 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: that you know, this guy is someone you know of prominence, 353 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:32,439 Speaker 1: of talent, of high regard. I heard him the other 354 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:37,200 Speaker 1: day with Dan Patrick, and he, like his quarterback, comes 355 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: across very humble and not too taken by the moment, 356 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: secure and confident, with a nice easy way about him. 357 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 1: And certainly what he does on the field with x's 358 00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: and o's and defense is carrying over. It's interesting yet 359 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: and Dominic and Sue and Ramsey and now he's got 360 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 1: Boss up and he's got Derwin right, So he's got 361 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: like these I don't know if you call him bookends 362 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: or what a top and bottom at front and back 363 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 1: whatever how, but but he's got these two important components. 364 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,120 Speaker 1: You know, when he got someone who can shut down 365 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: a quarter of the field and an edge rusher, those 366 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: are two big important things to Nutch and he has 367 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: done that again. And as you two doing know, when 368 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: you get momentum in this league, it is it is 369 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 1: very hard to stop it, and it's imposing a lot 370 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: of time, and you find ways. And I just get 371 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 1: that sense with the Chargers the division is not too big, 372 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: the city's not too big, that the stadium isn't too inspiring. 373 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: They're just playing football and believing in what the others doing, 374 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: and confidence and and they just have a momentum right 375 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: now that I think will last throughout the season. You know, Kevin, Oftentimes, 376 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, we like to make comparisons of players 377 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: to cars. But for the sake of this conversation, I'm 378 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: gonna ask you to do it to boats. If if 379 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: you had to describe Miles Garrett as a boat, what 380 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: kind of boat would he be? I think he'd be 381 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: about about He'd be a formula. He would be one 382 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: of those things with so much power and an engine 383 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: that wouldn't stop that he could slice through any kind 384 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 1: of wave or water, weather and and uh and make 385 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 1: it work. He just has a He is a lot 386 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: of things. First of all, he's he's very bright, thoughtful, 387 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: and introspective. And I think you mentioned like history and 388 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: and and the league and the great edge rushers before him. 389 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: He has a wonderful feel for that. The other day 390 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: we talked to him and we asked him if he 391 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: watch his tape on other current and past defensive ends. 392 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 1: Edge rushers, pocket pressure guys, and and he mentioned the 393 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 1: Joey Bosa's, but he also went back and talked about 394 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: like the Carl Ellers and and the Bruce Smiths. So 395 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: this is a guy who is number one overall pick, 396 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 1: big money player and has the prominent headline role on 397 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: that Cleveland defense which is as good as any in football, 398 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: and yet goes about his business as a business. He 399 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 1: is very you know, into angles and how he comes 400 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: out of the shoote and what his other guys in 401 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 1: the line are supposed to do, and how he needs 402 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 1: to adapt his play to what others do well, and 403 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: always studying who's across the line. Left tackles are right tackles. 404 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: They'll move him around a little bit. And he has 405 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: a book that he keeps on all these guys. Now 406 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: he's going up against a rookie this week, which will 407 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: be fun. And I love that kid, by the way. 408 00:21:47,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: He's a wonderful young player and going to be a 409 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:52,359 Speaker 1: great tackle in this league. But Miles Garrett is a 410 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 1: game changer, and even when he is not getting the quarterback, 411 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: he is pressuring it so that times now are off 412 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: rhythm and quarterbacks are forced to move their platform and 413 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: it's just he is just a He's a guy that 414 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 1: falls in line with the movement of the defense. So 415 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: if he knows that the pressure is going to be 416 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 1: geared towards the middle on a particular play, he knows 417 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: now that his assignment may be changed, but he'll do 418 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: it the best you possibly can do. And guys like 419 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: that are unselfish. Realize where they stand and how important 420 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: they are, but just go about trying to be the 421 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: best for their teammates. And they've got a tough defensive line. Matt, 422 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure Chris, you guys have studied the line. This 423 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: is This defense is not a this is no one's 424 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 1: day in the park. They are tough and rugged and 425 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 1: that battle in the trenches will be significant on Sunday. 426 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: Kevin You says something in an interview with me a 427 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: few years ago that's always stuck with me in when 428 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: it comes to just September football, it's like you almost 429 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: throw out the first quarter of the season because we're 430 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: trying to figure everything out. Tack link sloppy, there's penalties, 431 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: Teams don't necessarily know each other that well. With all 432 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: that being said, as we get into October, the fact 433 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: that the Chargers have a new coaching staff, new schemes, 434 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: and they're winning. They're three and one, they're two and 435 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 1: oh in the AFC West, and it looks to be 436 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: that they're ascending right now. Just how important is it 437 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: to just kind of figure it out in September as 438 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 1: teams really start to gel coming into October and beyond. Well, 439 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,679 Speaker 1: I believe that for a variety of reasons, Chris. Number one, 440 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, the lack of hitting in the offseason, the 441 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: lack of time these staffs have with their players, including 442 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: a brand new staff like you said with the Chargers, 443 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,679 Speaker 1: and and then even in camp now you don't hit 444 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: as much, and guys are not playing as many minutes 445 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: or snaps and games in the preseason which are now 446 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: cut by one down to three. So everything is being trimmed, 447 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: and so it's almost as if they're requiring more for 448 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,360 Speaker 1: the players in terms of being in shape and football 449 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: ready and knowing the playbook once they step foot on 450 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,399 Speaker 1: that campus or in the facility for the beginning of 451 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: training camp and then using Unfortunately, it's kind of the 452 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 1: way the game is set up in player health, which 453 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,719 Speaker 1: we all get and appreciate, but learning, you know, a 454 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 1: lot about what you're next to, how you're working as 455 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: a position group, and how you're working as an offense 456 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: or defense. As the month of September goes by, and 457 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: in the old days, the coaches would tell you you 458 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: really don't know what you have until the middle or 459 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: first portion of October. Now I think it is truly 460 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: the middle of October, and maybe even a bit beyond. 461 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: I think you're still wondering how much the rookie has 462 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,959 Speaker 1: in the tank and what kind of bandwidth they have 463 00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: to maneuver around a new playbook offensive or defensive. You know, 464 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: how their body sustains the rigors of an NFL game 465 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: and its speed and physicality, And then just the mental 466 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: awareness you've got to have, like I said before, of 467 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: what going on and the depth and the way that 468 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: this game progresses week by week week. The the playbook expands, 469 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: the plays get deeper, the knowledge has to grow with 470 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: that depth. And there's like all this stuff going on 471 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: that these young players are required to do to operate 472 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: in today's NFL, which has never been more complex and 473 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: more diverse in terms of schemes and sub packages and 474 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 1: all this stuff going on. So I guess I feel 475 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: like like until you get you know through those first 476 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: two months are certainly well into the month of October, 477 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: coaching stabs are still kind of experimenting with with with 478 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 1: schemes and position groups to figure out where they fit, 479 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 1: what works best with who and how they all kind 480 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: of melt together. You get a veteran team that has 481 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,920 Speaker 1: been together, you know, Green Bay kind of comes to mind. Others, 482 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 1: you know, Kansas City's basically said, although they got a 483 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: brand new offensive line as you guys saw, you know, 484 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, you know, they're they're still 485 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: trying to figure things out. Even the best of the 486 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: best are constantly evolved. So I guess that's what we 487 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: love about the game. There's something you every week. Things 488 00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: can happen over the course of a week which can 489 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: change the direction of a Sunday game and put you 490 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:15,159 Speaker 1: and propel you some way either plus or minus. I 491 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,920 Speaker 1: guess I guess we're still christ and getting along when 492 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: it answer to to your question, just we're still in 493 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 1: that mode of really not knowing who you are until 494 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: the middle of October for sure. Last thing for me, Kevin, 495 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,040 Speaker 1: and and you know, you're always so generous with your 496 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,760 Speaker 1: time so I may have asked you before, but I 497 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,919 Speaker 1: don't think I have, And I'm guessing a lot of 498 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 1: people listening would like to know, or maybe I just 499 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: would like to know. Being a play by play guy 500 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 1: that that looks up to you and respects the heck 501 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: out of what you do and appreciates how you do it. 502 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: Have you always been willing to commit to the to 503 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: the moment, to add lib in the moment, to improvise 504 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 1: with what's going on the field. So many producers tell 505 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 1: you ignore that, ignore the cat, Ignore the guy running 506 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,959 Speaker 1: on the field. Ignore you know, it's a football broadcast. 507 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 1: You know how program are. They're stiff. They they're not talent, Kevin. 508 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: They're not talent like you. They don't know what the 509 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: people want. And you're the guy that really has been 510 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,960 Speaker 1: willing to just cut right through it and say no, 511 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: I know what the people like. Have you always done it? 512 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: Or because of your reputation and the respect you have, 513 00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,120 Speaker 1: do you feel like you can say, listen, just trust me, 514 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing. Let me, let me do this. 515 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: This is the way it should be done, because man, 516 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 1: it's the best, it is just the best. Well coming 517 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: from you, man, who I respect so much. I appreciate 518 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: that now I I you know, I I don't ask 519 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 1: for permission. And as you know, in radio, when you're 520 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: doing radio, you're really in the weeds right in the call, 521 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: like you're calling, all right, there's a new right tackle 522 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,199 Speaker 1: and now they got they got three wide or now 523 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: they're gonna send the like you're so like into you. 524 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,479 Speaker 1: Now they got six in the secondary. Now they only 525 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: got two in the line. They're gonna drop for you know, 526 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: like all this stuff is going on, right, So these 527 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: these cants are drunks, are you know? They're they're they're 528 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 1: operating within the framework of your call. So um, I 529 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: don't know. You know, like if a guy runs right 530 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: through the slot receiver position as he did, you know 531 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago. Here's a guy, Oh my gosh, 532 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: he's run right through this. He's on the field and 533 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 1: no one's chasing him, and there he goes and and 534 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: and uh no, there's a there's definitely a moment of pause. 535 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 1: There's a governor in your head that says, okay, dope, 536 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: let you know, let's let's make sure that and and listen, 537 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: it's it's uh, I think I've done my last call 538 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: of that I may just refer to it just kind 539 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: of uh off to the side. Now, I I do. 540 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: I like you, both of you. I respect the business, 541 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 1: and I love the position that we're into broadcast and 542 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 1: just completely feeling feel honored every time you put on 543 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: that headset about about calling the NFL and we're the NBA, 544 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: and feeling like, you know, this is you know, there's 545 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: so many people that would that would love this job, 546 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: and here I've got it and don't make a mockery 547 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: of it and don't disrespect it. And and so I 548 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: hope people do take it in the in the in 549 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: the sense that it is fun and kind of a 550 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: goofy part of the game, and it's nice to have 551 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: a little bit of a side show. And if no 552 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 1: one's being hurt and there's no name, and of course 553 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: you don't want people running on the field. But I 554 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 1: guess I um, when I after I've said it, I 555 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: like regret it, and I just should not regret it. 556 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: Was gun I come on, good a grip, it's so good. 557 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: Well you're nice to say that. I appreciate that from you, 558 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: and I, like I said, I think you know you 559 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: do it a couple of times maybe it's okay, and 560 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: and then after that you just say, ye, all right, 561 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: done it, you know, let's move on. Yeah, I tell you, man, 562 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: this is such a treat for me. I've always looked 563 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: up to money in in LA, you know, being here 564 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 1: for the last fifteen years. And Kevin, you're the best 565 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: of the best. Um, it's so great to see you. 566 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: It's so fi stadium. We look forward to seeing you 567 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday and we always know it's a big game 568 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,360 Speaker 1: when you're in the building. Oh, very kind words, Chris. 569 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt. I love being on with you, as 570 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: we love your new building. It's so wonderful. LA's got 571 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: two teams. They're both prominent now in the league. They're 572 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: in the conversation for amongst the best and that's great. 573 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: And they have a quarterback who's going to be here 574 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: for another fifteen years. Like this guy you just know 575 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: right he just has all the markings of a guy 576 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,680 Speaker 1: that is going to be around. Is. This is going 577 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: to be an incredible journey for you too to chronicle, 578 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:26,719 Speaker 1: and no two better people to do it than you. 579 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,960 Speaker 1: But thank you for having me on. I was out 580 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,479 Speaker 1: there last Monday. I'm going to be out there this Sunday, 581 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 1: and then I got to go to Baltimore to do 582 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 1: a Monday night game and back to Los Angeles for 583 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 1: Tuesday Lakers. So I'm going to see a lot of 584 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: la here the next couple of next couple of days, 585 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: and I don't mind it at all. I always like 586 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,200 Speaker 1: getting out there. It's a lot of fun. I'll enjoy 587 00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:48,800 Speaker 1: the little bit of downtime that you have, however, tiniest 588 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: liver it is. Hopefully it's good to you, and we 589 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: always appreciate it. Kevin means the world to us. Thank you, 590 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: and same to me. It's a privilege to be on. 591 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, Matt, thank you, Chris. Always a pleasure. All right, guys, 592 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 1: Before we get to Brandon Thorne, a quick note to 593 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: let you know that Pepsi they're passing out the Ultimate 594 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: Chargers Fan Experience only at seven eleven. You want to 595 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: rush you and scan the code to enter for a 596 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: chance to win some awesome prizes. 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It's it's gonna 606 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: be fun and it's I mean, it's really because you 607 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,720 Speaker 1: know Bosa and Miles Garrett, you know, I mean, I 608 00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you said pass rushes as a unit 609 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: or players, but you think player wise, these are the 610 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: two best in the game. So player wise, okay, gotcha? Yeah, yeah, definitely. 611 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, you know T J. Watt always has a 612 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: you know, an argument there. But for me, like in 613 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 1: terms of pure skill, I think Miles Garrett and Bosa 614 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,640 Speaker 1: are kind of the cream of the crop. And then 615 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: you know they also have all the physical ability as 616 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,880 Speaker 1: well to go with it. But yeah, they're just there's 617 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: so much fun to watch. It's gonna be awesome. As 618 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: someone that studies it as extensively as you do, Brandon, 619 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: have you is there anything you can do a team 620 00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: can do to slow down Miles Garrett have you seen 621 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: any team have success against him? Um, I mean not 622 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: really in one on one situations, but avoiding those I 623 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:44,680 Speaker 1: think is the one way to do it, and you 624 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: can do that in a multitude of different ways. I 625 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,600 Speaker 1: think some teams do that really well. Generally, Like you know, 626 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: the Chiefs come to mind as a team who you know, 627 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,640 Speaker 1: they run screens really well. They condense the formations and 628 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: then put a lot of a lot of bodies around 629 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: the defensive ends to kind of create a little hesitation 630 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 1: pre snap, you know, put a tight end over there, 631 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: slide the protection his way, running back chips, you know, 632 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: all the creative different ways that you can do it 633 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: to slow down an outside pass rusher specifically, I think 634 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: need to be done against Garrett regardless of who your 635 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: tackles are. And then he also rushes inside as well. 636 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: He switches sides, he rushes inside over a guard, So 637 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: that's what makes him so difficult. And a lot of 638 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: the elite guys is they can move around and play 639 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: over different guys, so you can't eliminate one on ones totally. 640 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: But I think there's a lot of different ways that 641 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: teams do that, and it just it's like a requirement 642 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: in the game plan when you face Miles Garrett Hey 643 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,800 Speaker 1: Rashaw Slater through the first four games playing at really 644 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: an elite level, I don't know if you could assess 645 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: just the way he's played, not just among rookies, but 646 00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: among all left tackles in the elite brand. Yeah. I mean, 647 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: you know, he's hit the ground running obviously, and he's uh, 648 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, I think his technique is just excellent, um, 649 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: and I think that's really how he's winning. He's consistent 650 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:16,239 Speaker 1: with things like his stance, his footwork, his his use 651 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: of leverage with his hands and his pads are are 652 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,239 Speaker 1: always kind of in sync and on point um, he 653 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: doesn't put himself in a lot of compromising positions. You know, 654 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: he's he's just fundamentally sound, and I think that that 655 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: puts them It's very conducent for success, you know, in 656 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: the run end pass game. But I mean one thing 657 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: that's stead stood out to me is in the run game. 658 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: You know, him getting out in space and leading up 659 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,399 Speaker 1: to the second and third levels, to me has been 660 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 1: so fun to watch and it's I think indicative of 661 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:46,880 Speaker 1: what you want to see out of a franchise left tackle. 662 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: You know, a guy who can really kind of spearhead 663 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 1: the run game in that way. I think that's been 664 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,399 Speaker 1: really cool to watch. We didn't get to really see 665 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,760 Speaker 1: that a whole lot in Northwestern so that's really cool. 666 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:00,440 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean, you know, there's there's been a 667 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: handful of losses in past protection Bradley and a that 668 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: Inside Cross Shop movie got on him was one, and 669 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 1: I think there was one bull Rush either the week before. 670 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: I think that got him a little bit, you know, 671 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,560 Speaker 1: on his heels. But you know that's kind of nitpicking. 672 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, there's everybody loses sum reps, you know, Trent Williams, 673 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,360 Speaker 1: Box tr all those guys. So all in all, I 674 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: think he's certainly in the conversation for one of the 675 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: five best left tackles so far this season, and as 676 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: a rookie, you know, that's outstanding. So yeah, you know, 677 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: the one thing about that, too, Brandon is is and 678 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: kind of maybe either I guess agree or correct me 679 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: on this, it's overshadowed Corey Linsley and I felt like 680 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: this last game against the Raiders was really the Corey 681 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,399 Speaker 1: Linsley game and what you saw on the left side 682 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: of that line, just from Slater to Filer to Linsley 683 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: and what they were able to do in the run 684 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 1: game looked like it was real effective when they ran 685 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 1: that way. As you've looked at Lindsley, he's the highest 686 00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: paid center, He's been celebrated as the best center in 687 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: the game. Like, what have you seen from him through 688 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 1: four games? And I don't know, did it feel to 689 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: you like maybe he took a step in this game 690 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: against the Raiders. It just it felt like his presence 691 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: was there a little bit more than in the first three. Yeah, 692 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I think, um, you know, I 693 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,439 Speaker 1: don't necessarily know the reasons for it, but it looks 694 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 1: like he's settled down a little bit but got more 695 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 1: comfortable with the guys next to him. I mean, he 696 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:23,240 Speaker 1: was in the Green Bay scheme and around similar guys 697 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: for so long that maybe he just, you know, it 698 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: just took him a couple of games to get his 699 00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: feet underneath him, you know sort of speak. And yeah, 700 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: I mean I think the Raider game was his best 701 00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 1: game of the season. And you know, Lindsley last year, 702 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: I know he was very highly graded you know by 703 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, Pro Football Focus and stuff that you know 704 00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:43,479 Speaker 1: suggested he was the best center in the game, which 705 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: I think he has an argument for. I'm not necessarily 706 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 1: sure that he's ever necessarily been the best center in 707 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,560 Speaker 1: the game, but he's certainly among the best. You know, 708 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 1: he's he could do everything pretty well. You know, he 709 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: can kind of quarterback the line and you know, really 710 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,600 Speaker 1: help a young quarterback. And I think those are things 711 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: that we hadn't really seen maybe as much. They're harder 712 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,920 Speaker 1: to identify, So I think that's a huge part of 713 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: his value. And then just the stuff in his own 714 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880 Speaker 1: run game specifically. You know, he's just really good as 715 00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: his own run blocker, and we saw a lot of 716 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,799 Speaker 1: that last week. The run game in general, though I 717 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: think it's just been especially last week too, but just 718 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: impressed of the way that the guys have worked together 719 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: on double teams and stuff like that. Yeah, it's it's 720 00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 1: been fun to watch um. But yeah, Lindsley, you know, 721 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: he's a stud. He's he's he's a good player. I'm 722 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: excited to watch him the rest of the year. But 723 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,839 Speaker 1: it was it was an encouraging performance because I do 724 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: think there was some improvement there. Brandon, Uh, you have 725 00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:42,320 Speaker 1: some great film breakdowns on YouTube. I know week two 726 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 1: you broke down both lines of the Cowboys in Chargers 727 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:49,200 Speaker 1: and obviously Joey Bosa was was in there. Joey was 728 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:52,919 Speaker 1: wrecking the game on Monday night. What have you seen 729 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,440 Speaker 1: from him early on? Especially this is a new scheme 730 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,400 Speaker 1: for him, this Brandon Staley defense. How would you assess 731 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:05,360 Speaker 1: the way Alway has played specifically this past Monday night? Man, 732 00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 1: to me, it's, you know, more of the same stuff, 733 00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,040 Speaker 1: you know. I mean that that big sack that he had, 734 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: you know, was using his signature side scissors move that 735 00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: Larry Johnson, the defensive line coach at Ohio State, teaches 736 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: his guys, and it seems like Joey is the poster 737 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 1: child for what it should look like. And that move 738 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: is just it's lethal, you know, because he he gets 739 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,239 Speaker 1: guys to stop their feet and then he just hits 740 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: that little double swipe side scissors moved to knock down 741 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 1: their hand and he wins the corner. And he has 742 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 1: such good ability to turn the corner and get his 743 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: hips around blockers. It's just uncanny. And you know he's 744 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480 Speaker 1: doing that again this year. He can rush from inside, 745 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, he can win with power. His spin move 746 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: is you know, deadly and you typically think of like 747 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 1: Von Miller having a great spin move, but Joey Bosa 748 00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 1: has a great one, so he can just win in 749 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,760 Speaker 1: every way imaginable. And and the great thing about Joey, 750 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,800 Speaker 1: I think his game is he's everything is so reactionary 751 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: and it's based on what the offensive line is doing. 752 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: So if there's a weakness, he's going to pick up 753 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: on it, and he's going to exploit it, you know, 754 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,359 Speaker 1: on the drop of a dime. And it's just like 755 00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: it's beautiful to watch. And yeah, I mean a rookie 756 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: right tackle facing him, you know, is always tough. And 757 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: Alex Leatherwood and Joey I think capitalized on that. He 758 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,319 Speaker 1: faced Sam cosed me a few weeks ago, definitely capitalized 759 00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: on that, you know. I mean, he's just one of 760 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: those guys. If you have a rookie, especially, it's probably 761 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: gonna be a long day. You know. It's just the 762 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: way it is. You know. Speaking of that Cowboy game, 763 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: Brandon like, to me, the toughest nut to crack and 764 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: figure out this season through four games has been Jerry Tillery. 765 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,399 Speaker 1: The Cowboy Game was really rough for Jerry, but man, 766 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: I feel like he has really bounced back these last 767 00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: two weeks. I just I feel like when we're you know, 768 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,360 Speaker 1: as we're calling, as we're calling the game, in the 769 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,960 Speaker 1: middle of it, it just feels like he's got a presence. 770 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: Like what have you seen Hillary, Like have you been 771 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,880 Speaker 1: able to figure him out yet? Um? I mean, you know, 772 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 1: it's always kind of fluid with with most of the league. 773 00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, there's not a lot of like 774 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,600 Speaker 1: bad or great. It's all kind of in the middle, 775 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,800 Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, I think with players, 776 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: and he's you know, he's been up and down. I 777 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: think his run defense is really his weak his weakness. 778 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 1: You know, it's the weak part of his game. And 779 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 1: just you know, he's not necessarily undersized. Um. And I 780 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: think he's listed with like two ninety five or something. UM. 781 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,640 Speaker 1: But you know, so it's not size. And you know, 782 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: he had the rep against Dallas against Zack Martin where 783 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: he you know, he roots his feet, shuts down Martin 784 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: and then tosses him to the side and makes this 785 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: tackle and it's like, holy crap. And then you know, 786 00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: a few plays before or I think it was a 787 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: handful of plays before he gets you know, driven, you know, 788 00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,840 Speaker 1: eight yards across the field. On his back by Terrence Steele. 789 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 1: So it's like, you know, kind of up and down 790 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:57,320 Speaker 1: that way. But I think as a rusher is really 791 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,279 Speaker 1: you know, where he brings his value. I remember watching 792 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 1: him at Notre Dame and just some of the stuff 793 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,560 Speaker 1: you did. They're using his quickness and you know, to 794 00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: be disruptive and get penetration and things like that. So, 795 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: you know, I still think we see that this year 796 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,360 Speaker 1: from him as a rusher. I would just like to 797 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: see his run defense, you know, still continue to be 798 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: more consistent. You know, it doesn't even even have to 799 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 1: be like great. You know, if it could just get 800 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 1: to like an average, solid level, I think that would 801 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: really allow him to be a more valuable player because 802 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: as a rusher, I think he's you know, he's a 803 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: pretty valuable guy. But a nice part of a rotation. Brandon, 804 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: so many Charges fans have been so invested in the 805 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:43,279 Speaker 1: Charger's new look offensive line trench warfare. You do awesome work, man. 806 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,680 Speaker 1: Can you just kind of pub what you're doing? Where 807 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 1: to find you as we kind of get through this 808 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: year and I know you have amazing breakdowns that Charges 809 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: fans want to see. Yeah, sure, so you can visit 810 00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: my website it's Trench Warfare dot substack dot com and 811 00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 1: that's a newsletter. When you sign up, all my content 812 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,000 Speaker 1: will be delivered to your inbox. Um. I have a 813 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: free version and a subscription version, so just different work 814 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: there that you can get. So I'm doing a lot 815 00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,520 Speaker 1: of film breakdowns now that people have liked, and I 816 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,319 Speaker 1: really love doing those. I just came out with a 817 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: big project called the True Sack Rate, which I chart 818 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 1: every sack in the NFL and I basically assign a 819 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: value to it if it's high quality, low quality clean 820 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: up coverage, and it's a tool to evaluate pass rushers, 821 00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:40,239 Speaker 1: I think. And so I just came up with that 822 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 1: that that just published today, So that's going to be ongoing, 823 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,240 Speaker 1: updated every week. So between that in the film rooms, 824 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,319 Speaker 1: you can find all my stuff there. And then I 825 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: do stuff for other places as well. I evaluate I 826 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:55,239 Speaker 1: evaluate college offensive lineman for a bleacher report. So yeah, 827 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 1: I just got my hand in a few different places, 828 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:00,800 Speaker 1: but Trench Warfare is the main spot. I gotta finish 829 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,239 Speaker 1: up with this real quick, Brandon for people that that 830 00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: are listening and trying to picture you in their mind's 831 00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,560 Speaker 1: eye as you're cutting up all the film and you're 832 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: doing all your work. I'm trying to wrap my brain 833 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: around what's playing in the background, and I can't decide 834 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: if it's if it's like Napalm Death level thrash metal, 835 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: if it's maybe a step below that it's like Pantera level, 836 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,120 Speaker 1: or if it's maybe just a little bit below, or 837 00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,000 Speaker 1: is it punk rock? Like are you in the are 838 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 1: you in maybe like the hardcore lane with like circle 839 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:33,040 Speaker 1: jerks and that sort of stuff. Like, but what's playing 840 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,839 Speaker 1: in the background when you're doing all your film work 841 00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,239 Speaker 1: when you're listening to music? Oh man, Honestly, I listened 842 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: to a lot of podcasts, so that's primarily music. Yeah, yeah, 843 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean podcast is the main way if I listen 844 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,200 Speaker 1: to music, Honestly. I mean, you know, I grew up 845 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 1: in California and Florida, and I mean like old school 846 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:56,439 Speaker 1: R and B. I mean, could not have been more off? 847 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: That's it not have been more like that's talking like 848 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:03,280 Speaker 1: like alb sure like that kind of like jagged edge. 849 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,680 Speaker 1: This is like Daniel Jeremiah's style, you know, like, yeah, exactly, 850 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:12,080 Speaker 1: that is DJ. You know, I grew up on a 851 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of that stuff, and I just I still I 852 00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: could put it on and I feel good and I'm 853 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: there we go. You know, I can get into the 854 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: zone on that. I mean hardcore rock. That's not if 855 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 1: I'm at the gym maybe, but okay, watching films, see 856 00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,839 Speaker 1: this guy judging the book by its cover. You look 857 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,279 Speaker 1: like the bass player from Stained or something like that. 858 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,360 Speaker 1: You know, but that is that is not the case 859 00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 1: as far as your musical. So listen to the key 860 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,560 Speaker 1: sweat exactly. I mean, I'll do what I mean. There's 861 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: a gosh genuine yeah. Oh yeah. See I'm a little 862 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,000 Speaker 1: bit older, so I'm like digging back into like troop 863 00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: and you know, but yeah, I love it. Yeah, beautiful. 864 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: The image Money's mind changed very quickly. Yeah, I had 865 00:44:57,640 --> 00:44:59,040 Speaker 1: a feeling that was gonna happen too. I was like, 866 00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: I know how this ends. I know this is gonna 867 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 1: make a fool of me because as how, it always 868 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: works with me. That's great. Thank you, Brandon. Oh yeah, Brandy, 869 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: you're awesome, dude. We had a we had a blast 870 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,879 Speaker 1: earlier this year, and we'd love to have you back 871 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:12,920 Speaker 1: as we continue to kind of check out this Chargers 872 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 1: offensive line and see how they jail throughout the year. Absolutely, 873 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:19,719 Speaker 1: just let me know, all right, buddy, let's bring in 874 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: our guy, Joe Ready Associated Press, and I think most 875 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,880 Speaker 1: people know this. Joe is an Ohio football man, so 876 00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 1: he's he's very uh well versed in the Bengals and Browns, 877 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,879 Speaker 1: and he also covers the Chargers. Joe, appreciate your time, man, 878 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: no problem. You know it's it's AFC North year with 879 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,439 Speaker 1: Browns and Bengals, the once every three year cycle where 880 00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 1: you guys get to make the trip at least one 881 00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 1: time to Ohio. But this time Ohio comes here from 882 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 1: what don't know how close tabs you're keeping on on 883 00:45:56,440 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: the two teams, Joe. But when you look at this 884 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,280 Speaker 1: Browns team and you think about how long it's taken 885 00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,480 Speaker 1: to get to this point, all the draft capital that 886 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: they have invested, are you are you at all surprised 887 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:11,279 Speaker 1: that they are where they are right now? This to 888 00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 1: me looks like the best roster top to bottom in 889 00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,400 Speaker 1: the NFL and in the AFC. Perhaps if you just 890 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,799 Speaker 1: go depth included. I don't know if there's a better 891 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: one out there. It's taken a long time, in a 892 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: whole lot of draft capital. M they finally got the 893 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: right GM head coach combination which is important Andrew Berry 894 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: and Kevin Stefanski back in after twenty eighteen and two thousand. 895 00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:47,440 Speaker 1: Going into that, Kevin Stefanski was the finalist, you know, 896 00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:52,440 Speaker 1: with under the John Dorsey rain and everything that didn't 897 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,200 Speaker 1: work out. They decided to keep pretty kitchens from within, 898 00:46:55,320 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: and then when twenty nineteen was disappointing, they decide to 899 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,080 Speaker 1: go in another direction again, and I think with Andrew 900 00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: Barry what he's been able to do, and then bringing 901 00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,440 Speaker 1: in Stefanski who's got a close tie with the analytics 902 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 1: and everything. I think a lot of the decisions we've 903 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 1: seen with Brandon Staley we saw last year with Kevin 904 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:24,880 Speaker 1: Stefanski on the analytics front. So it's all finally coming together, 905 00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,520 Speaker 1: and it was a team that got confidence last year 906 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: under a first year head coach. Really, I think that 907 00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: similarities between the Chargers this year and the Browns last year. 908 00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: There's a whole lot at this point with the run 909 00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:41,880 Speaker 1: and everything and finally having a quarterback and philosophy and 910 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:46,879 Speaker 1: everything that I think Browns fans have been starving for 911 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: so long that you know, at the three and one start, 912 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,680 Speaker 1: it's like knock on wood, everything's going well, let's just 913 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,239 Speaker 1: hope it continues. Joe the offense, I think the one 914 00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: thing if you could pull to something that may not 915 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,719 Speaker 1: be going as well as they would envision is just 916 00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 1: the play of Baker Mayfield the last couple of weeks. 917 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 1: And it looks like there's a shoulder issue and he's 918 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:12,239 Speaker 1: not going to make excuses about it, But what do 919 00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:14,840 Speaker 1: you make of his play through the first quarter of 920 00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: the season. And you know, would you have a rushing 921 00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 1: attack with Hunt and Chubb and both guys are averaging 922 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: over five yards to clip, it seems like they're going 923 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: to have to rely on them a little bit more so, 924 00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:34,720 Speaker 1: especially with Jarvis Lands. Real, Yeah, Baker's doing what Kevin 925 00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: Stefanski in that offense won him to do, you know, 926 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,800 Speaker 1: with the running game and everything and it being heavily 927 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:48,239 Speaker 1: geared toward the run. Now, the torn laboram and the 928 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: non throwing shoulder says a lot about the accuracy the 929 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 1: last two weeks. And also considering that this is a 930 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,320 Speaker 1: passing attack that relies more on down the field throws, 931 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:06,520 Speaker 1: they're not really the short passing game that we've seen 932 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: with the Chargers. I mean, Baker will throw a lot 933 00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,919 Speaker 1: to Kareem Hunt when he's out there, but as far 934 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:19,279 Speaker 1: as Odell Higgins, Donovan, People's Jones, the tight ends, it's 935 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:22,399 Speaker 1: more of the beyond five yards. The more the ten 936 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: to fifteen yard throws instead of those short throws in 937 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: the accuracy is going to go down. The one other 938 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,359 Speaker 1: area that Baker has a huge benefit too, is he's 939 00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 1: got a great offensive line. Now. I think I saw 940 00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,440 Speaker 1: him pro football talk that two or three members of 941 00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:44,120 Speaker 1: that offensive line are onto y'all after four games first team, 942 00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:48,160 Speaker 1: So that helps. But I think the interesting thing too 943 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: is with the number of quarterbacks the Browns have had 944 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,839 Speaker 1: throughout the years, and it kind of when you look 945 00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:59,920 Speaker 1: at number of quarterbacks and the people with the jersey 946 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,160 Speaker 1: he's with the quarterbacks names, they haven't had to resurrect 947 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: that for the last three years since the Browns have 948 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:12,560 Speaker 1: had starting stability, Baker still among the among the Browns 949 00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:16,879 Speaker 1: fan base gets a whole lot of criticism, and it's 950 00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:19,080 Speaker 1: an important year for him because they're trying to figure 951 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,400 Speaker 1: out whether to give him a long term extension or not. 952 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: So Baker maybe not as much in a national spotlight, 953 00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,920 Speaker 1: but certainly in the Cleveland spot like there there is 954 00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: a lot of focus on him. Just trying to figure 955 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:36,200 Speaker 1: out if he is the guy who deserves that large contract. 956 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:38,680 Speaker 1: And I'm sure that's wearing on him as well. When 957 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,160 Speaker 1: you when you prep for the game and you're you're 958 00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: watching a lot of you know, Brown's footed film or 959 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,319 Speaker 1: I hate saying film, but whatever. You know, when you're 960 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:50,600 Speaker 1: watching the Browns, Miles Garrett is just terrifying. I mean, 961 00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:55,200 Speaker 1: he is an absolute nightmare um that going through his pressures, 962 00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:00,840 Speaker 1: he's like it truly does things that defy logicum. Instead 963 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:02,879 Speaker 1: of just asking you to celebrate Myles Garrett, I think 964 00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:04,480 Speaker 1: we can all agree this is someone who might be 965 00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:07,920 Speaker 1: the best player in the NFL across the board. Do 966 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,400 Speaker 1: you think do you think it matters to justin Herbert 967 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:12,560 Speaker 1: just kind of watching him last year, the amount of 968 00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:16,120 Speaker 1: pressure he was under, how we operated watching him last week, 969 00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:18,080 Speaker 1: you know on Monday Night, I should say, against Max 970 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,279 Speaker 1: Crosby who seemingly was in his lap all the time, 971 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,439 Speaker 1: or in gock Way, it just doesn't seem to matter 972 00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:26,880 Speaker 1: to me. Like, that's the most surprising thing about Herbert 973 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,520 Speaker 1: nineteen starts into his career is even if he gets pressure, 974 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 1: it just seems like he knows how to make the 975 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,360 Speaker 1: right decision or protect the football when he needs to. 976 00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 1: And I think that the huge key that we were 977 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 1: wondering what this offense and we finally got that answered 978 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:46,920 Speaker 1: this past week was will the running game begin to thrive? 979 00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:51,040 Speaker 1: And how does this new offensive line do run blocking? 980 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:55,360 Speaker 1: And it very much passed the test on Monday, and 981 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,600 Speaker 1: I think the run game did it did a good 982 00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,440 Speaker 1: job too against Washington. Word a thing that I'm wondering 983 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: because we had Austin at the podium yesterday. Is it 984 00:52:05,120 --> 00:52:08,879 Speaker 1: going to be the same game plan with Washington as 985 00:52:08,880 --> 00:52:13,600 Speaker 1: far as blocking, as far as you know, helping out 986 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:18,600 Speaker 1: maybe more with max protections. But also will this be 987 00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,200 Speaker 1: the game where Austin is the true running back and 988 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,600 Speaker 1: doesn't get many opportunities getting the ball out of the backfield, 989 00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: And there's gonna be a lot of quick passes. There's 990 00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:33,320 Speaker 1: gonna be more quick grows. Mike Williams had one reception 991 00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 1: on Monday night. That isn't going to happen this time. 992 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:39,640 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be targeted a lot more. I 993 00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:43,480 Speaker 1: think with Justin's calm and cold demeanor, but also with 994 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:50,720 Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi's game plan, there's this isn't gonna phase him. Now, 995 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,520 Speaker 1: Vegas and Browns are kind of similar where you know, 996 00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,920 Speaker 1: there they had somebody else other than Max Crosby to 997 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: bring pressure. But you got Jadeveon Clowney on the other side. 998 00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:11,040 Speaker 1: You got two number one overall picks and also the 999 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 1: rookie out of order Dame Jeremiah Yes Uh, otherwise known 1000 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: as Jock in Yes, otherwise known as Jock in Cleveland. 1001 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 1: He can he can bring a certain amount of pressure too. 1002 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: So you know, my Myles Garrett is a is a 1003 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:36,000 Speaker 1: terrifying human being for a quarterback, just with his size 1004 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:39,480 Speaker 1: and speed and what he did against Chicago in a 1005 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: mobile quarterback, it was like, my goodness, gracious. Uh. I 1006 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 1: hate quoting Susan Waldman, but I will on this point. 1007 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,279 Speaker 1: But uh, you know, this defensive line will probably be 1008 00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,839 Speaker 1: the most stiff challenge that the Chargers offensive line will 1009 00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 1: face all year. Joe Brandon's only has been celebrated on 1010 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 1: Twitter after the game, and I think there was a 1011 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:06,320 Speaker 1: clip about him talking about just the running game and 1012 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:11,719 Speaker 1: play action. Yeah, everybody's all over it. And you've you've 1013 00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,520 Speaker 1: seen Brandon from his first presser to where we are 1014 00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,320 Speaker 1: now in Week five. There's so much to be impressed 1015 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:24,120 Speaker 1: by in what ways have you been impressed with? Just 1016 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,759 Speaker 1: the operation three and one right now? You know, this 1017 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,799 Speaker 1: Chargers teams has not been two and oh in the 1018 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 1: division since twenty twelve. I mean, and I feel like 1019 00:54:35,320 --> 00:54:37,880 Speaker 1: they're still trying to figure things out. There's stacking wins 1020 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:41,840 Speaker 1: in September, knowing that there's still ascending. What's impressed you 1021 00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 1: most about just what Brandon's doing right now, especially in season. 1022 00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,480 Speaker 1: He's got a team, the way he goes about things 1023 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: and the way that he gets it across to the players, 1024 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: because I think they've talked about the Thursday meetings where 1025 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,640 Speaker 1: and Brandon talked about this earlier in a year, explaining 1026 00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:07,320 Speaker 1: the philosophy and then getting down to the nitty griddion stuff. 1027 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,520 Speaker 1: But the fact also that these Thursday meetings he's getting 1028 00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,600 Speaker 1: everybody together to talk about what all three phases are doing. 1029 00:55:16,600 --> 00:55:20,160 Speaker 1: So all fifty three or forty seven or forty eight, 1030 00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,160 Speaker 1: depending on the roster who lines up for the game. 1031 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 1: I mean, the kicker knows what the offense is going 1032 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:28,279 Speaker 1: to do, the kicker knows what the defense is going 1033 00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: to do. Everybody has a shared accountability. And this team 1034 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:42,360 Speaker 1: also just has the confidence that no matter what, things 1035 00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,919 Speaker 1: are gonna go well. I mean, let's face it, two 1036 00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,960 Speaker 1: out of the first three weeks they took a massive 1037 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:53,320 Speaker 1: punch in the second half with turnovers and what have you. 1038 00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:58,200 Speaker 1: Defense gets defense gets to turnover back, offense scores the 1039 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:03,279 Speaker 1: game winning touchdown. We haven't set since twenty eighteen, the 1040 00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:08,320 Speaker 1: playoff year. And it's just very much right now complementary football, 1041 00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:12,280 Speaker 1: because let's face it, we saw the first six games 1042 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:17,400 Speaker 1: before to buye week playoff team in Washington, near playoff 1043 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,919 Speaker 1: team in Dallas last year, to America's team and fan 1044 00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:23,280 Speaker 1: base and everything. You got to go to Kansas City 1045 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:28,600 Speaker 1: Erawheads always a challenge, you know, Raiders Division game rivalry 1046 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:32,120 Speaker 1: Monday night. And now you've got the two AFC North 1047 00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,759 Speaker 1: games Cleveland and Baltimore playoff teams back to back. I 1048 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:39,960 Speaker 1: think everybody thought, if you could be over five hundred, 1049 00:56:40,840 --> 00:56:43,440 Speaker 1: you're playing with house money. If you could get to 1050 00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,960 Speaker 1: two and four to buy, you were still looking pretty 1051 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,719 Speaker 1: you were still looking pretty good for the more favorable 1052 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 1: stretch of this schedule. And to be at three and 1053 00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:55,960 Speaker 1: one right now, I mean they're they're sitting on a 1054 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: huge The good thing they're hitting, they're sitting on a 1055 00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:04,239 Speaker 1: huge staff of chicks, chips, bad thing. Three teams in 1056 00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,160 Speaker 1: the a FC North, three teams in the AFC West 1057 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,880 Speaker 1: now are three and one, and I think, what the 1058 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: way the East and South are going to be The 1059 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:16,160 Speaker 1: North and West are going to be fighting for the 1060 00:57:16,200 --> 00:57:20,000 Speaker 1: wild card spots right now. So you know, that's the 1061 00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,440 Speaker 1: other thing about this week's game. It's a huge you 1062 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: know for further positioning when we get the week fourteen 1063 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:31,680 Speaker 1: and fifteen, as far as you know, not only division leads, 1064 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,120 Speaker 1: but wild cards where everything's gonna shake out. Yeah. One 1065 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,720 Speaker 1: of the things that we brought up on the broadcast 1066 00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,600 Speaker 1: show is you know, they're two and zero in division now, 1067 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,440 Speaker 1: and if you go back to the you know, the 1068 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: with the twelve and four year you know that's why 1069 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,919 Speaker 1: they were a wild card team and not the home 1070 00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: team through the AFC playoffs. You know, they split with 1071 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but the Chiefs had a better division record 1072 00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:55,880 Speaker 1: than the Chargers, and they end up there's a conference record. 1073 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,560 Speaker 1: They had a better conference record than the Chargers, so 1074 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,040 Speaker 1: they end up stay at home. So to be two 1075 00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,320 Speaker 1: and zero in the division now, like you said, through 1076 00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:06,240 Speaker 1: this gauntlet before the bye, I think is also a 1077 00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: big benefit. We talked so like, I don't know if 1078 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: we find ourselves fallen into this habit just because we talk. 1079 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,439 Speaker 1: You know, we see the Chargers every week, so it's 1080 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,200 Speaker 1: not that it becomes old hat, but you're sort of 1081 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,680 Speaker 1: talking about the same thing, so we end up talking 1082 00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 1: about the opponents more. You know, Oh, Miles Garrett and man, 1083 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 1: that offensive line that's been revamped and that running into 1084 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:26,560 Speaker 1: Russian attack. I feel like we have not talked enough. 1085 00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: And I don't know if you feel like you've written 1086 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,000 Speaker 1: enough about him, but I just feel like Joey Bosa 1087 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: is not getting the attention he deserves as far as 1088 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: being in that conversation with Miles Garrett and Aaron Donald 1089 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 1: as a legitimate defensive MVP. The sack numbers don't pop up, 1090 00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:44,480 Speaker 1: my god, the pressures that hits, the hurries. I think 1091 00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 1: he's off to the best start that he has had 1092 00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:50,640 Speaker 1: in his career. I mean. And the other thing too, 1093 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:55,320 Speaker 1: is we were all wondering how Joey was gonna play 1094 00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: this year without Melvin Ingram on the other side, who 1095 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,600 Speaker 1: was going to step up or help and the rest 1096 00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:06,200 Speaker 1: of the defensive line, the rest of that linebacker group 1097 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 1: has played very well, but Joey's still getting double and 1098 00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 1: triple teamed and is out on an island a lot, 1099 00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:16,280 Speaker 1: and still you know, four games in two and a 1100 00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: half sacks, a number of pressures, number of quarterback hits 1101 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,160 Speaker 1: in playing what essentially, too is a new position for him, 1102 00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 1: is kind of that rush linebacker where he's you know, 1103 00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,520 Speaker 1: as a stand up part of the time, where he's 1104 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,160 Speaker 1: got to drop back into coverage mode part of the 1105 00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: time too. And granted it's granted it's rare, is still 1106 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:41,080 Speaker 1: you know, pretty good, and on a new defense too, 1107 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:45,520 Speaker 1: with a ton of different schemes and reading motions and 1108 00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:50,200 Speaker 1: doing adjustments in everything. I mean, the guys, the guy's 1109 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,479 Speaker 1: been a certifiable All Pro nearly every year and this 1110 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,160 Speaker 1: might be his best start so as well too. But 1111 00:59:57,240 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: I think the other thing, too is we saw it 1112 01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,320 Speaker 1: last year and we're kind of seeing it this year too. 1113 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:06,520 Speaker 1: You've got an individual that I think, for the first 1114 01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,120 Speaker 1: time is a pro and maybe going back to Ohio 1115 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,480 Speaker 1: State two, is comfortable in his own skin. I mean, 1116 01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: from the from twenty eighteen nineteen, Joey approaching the media 1117 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 1: and reporters and just in general, I don't know, Chris 1118 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:27,480 Speaker 1: All he's done with you and money and interviews and stuff. 1119 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 1: Joey is generally enjoying being an NFL player and one 1120 01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:35,560 Speaker 1: of the highest paid defensive players in the game. He 1121 01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:40,200 Speaker 1: is generally having fun with it in his own unique 1122 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: way and everything too. Joe He's hilarious. He's hilarious. I 1123 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,360 Speaker 1: think that one presser when he when he had the 1124 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,000 Speaker 1: energy drink, it was like it was stand up It 1125 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,640 Speaker 1: was a stand up day. I think that Joey Bosa 1126 01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:58,120 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen to nineteen doesn't go off on the officials 1127 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:01,680 Speaker 1: like he did Monday night. Yeah, that's a guy that's 1128 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:04,680 Speaker 1: comfortable in his own skin. And it's like, you know 1129 01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:07,240 Speaker 1: what I got them. I'm not I'm the second or 1130 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,520 Speaker 1: third highest paid defensive player in the league. I have 1131 01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:15,080 Speaker 1: the money to pay the fine. But also I'm gonna 1132 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,720 Speaker 1: say what I'm gonna say what I want and not 1133 01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:24,920 Speaker 1: feel bad about the repercussions. And I think that, you know, 1134 01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:28,080 Speaker 1: just seeing it, just seeing him get comfortable and everything 1135 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,120 Speaker 1: is I voted for him for the Good Guy Award 1136 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,600 Speaker 1: last year. Hunter Henry eventually got it. But you know, 1137 01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:39,240 Speaker 1: just seeing I think we're seeing I think media and 1138 01:01:39,360 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: fans and all of us are seeing the Joey Bosa 1139 01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: in the locker room and how he deals, how he's 1140 01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: around teammates. We're finally getting to see that, and I 1141 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,560 Speaker 1: think that's wonderful to see. Just you know, on field, 1142 01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: we know what you're gonna get with Joey, but now 1143 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:58,520 Speaker 1: seeing the true personality and stuff too has been great. Joe, 1144 01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 1: we'll get you at here in this band. What do 1145 01:02:00,520 --> 01:02:02,000 Speaker 1: the Charges need to do to get to four and 1146 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 1: one against a really good Browns team? What do you 1147 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 1: think is going to be the key? Turnovers and special teams? 1148 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 1: It seems like we say that a lot, you know, 1149 01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,760 Speaker 1: especially in this game. I think turnovers are going to 1150 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:22,439 Speaker 1: factor huge. Whoever has the advantage on turnovers is gonna win. 1151 01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:27,040 Speaker 1: And I think special teams wise, it seems like we're 1152 01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,400 Speaker 1: always in the sixth degree of separation from Chargers. When 1153 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:33,920 Speaker 1: it comes to kickers. We've got another, i think second 1154 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 1: or third degree of separation this week with Chase McLachlan, 1155 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: who has been who has been kicking very well, very 1156 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,440 Speaker 1: well for Cleveland. In fact, his percentage and kicking in 1157 01:02:44,520 --> 01:02:48,240 Speaker 1: that stadium surprises me. And you know, just in this 1158 01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:51,520 Speaker 1: series two, they don't play a lot but Chargers have 1159 01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:54,600 Speaker 1: won five out of the last seven. I think Chargers 1160 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:58,600 Speaker 1: fans remembered at twenty sixteen game because it was Cleveland's 1161 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:02,400 Speaker 1: only win, and Browns fans still thank the Chargers for 1162 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: no thirty two game or thirty five game losing streak 1163 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,800 Speaker 1: that could have developed off of that, since the Browns 1164 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:13,160 Speaker 1: went winless the next season. But um, you know the 1165 01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:18,440 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen game in Cleveland, Chargers dominated that game and 1166 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: played very well, and that was one of the few 1167 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,280 Speaker 1: games where Nick Chubb was a non factor, and that 1168 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,840 Speaker 1: was probably out of one or two the worst Baker 1169 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 1: Mayfield games out of the year. So you know, Chargers. 1170 01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,040 Speaker 1: Chargers come in with a lot of momentum at home too, 1171 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:39,000 Speaker 1: and I know a lot of California Browns fans and 1172 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:42,800 Speaker 1: fairly pretty good Northeast Ohio contingents going to be out here, 1173 01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:47,000 Speaker 1: not at the level maybe Cowboys or Raiders fans, but 1174 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,200 Speaker 1: it'll also be a more civilized crowd. Let me let 1175 01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,880 Speaker 1: me put it that way, the dog Pound. The dog 1176 01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:57,680 Speaker 1: Pound has come civilized, so should be should be fun 1177 01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,000 Speaker 1: Sunday afternoon. Looking forward to it. Joe breaking up both 1178 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,560 Speaker 1: sides for us today. Buddy Brow Let's and Chargers. You 1179 01:04:05,560 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 1: could do it all. We'll see you. It's so far 1180 01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: on Sunday. Joe, appreciate it, man, no problem, Thank you. 1181 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:13,760 Speaker 1: Thanks Joe. All right, buddy, Jim Pecks show a lot 1182 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:16,400 Speaker 1: of good guests, and I guess I want to close 1183 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:19,000 Speaker 1: it with with you with just your thoughts in your 1184 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:21,200 Speaker 1: keys to this game is the Chargers try to get 1185 01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: to four and one. Well, you know, it seemed like 1186 01:04:23,360 --> 01:04:25,160 Speaker 1: it was a theme with all of our guests. Right 1187 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,560 Speaker 1: to me, this is this gonna be a low scoring game. 1188 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:30,360 Speaker 1: I think, you know, just Joey and Miles Garrett and 1189 01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,560 Speaker 1: these defenses are so good, and Joe ready said it. 1190 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: I think it's turnovers, it's special teams. This to me 1191 01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,800 Speaker 1: is not a Chiefs you know, thirty to twenty four 1192 01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,400 Speaker 1: or even you know, twenty one quick ones against the Raiders. 1193 01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,680 Speaker 1: To me, this is gonna look a lot like that 1194 01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,360 Speaker 1: Vikings game. Did you know that Vikings Browns game? Did? 1195 01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,200 Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be tough to come by points, and 1196 01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: you know, I think you take the field goals when 1197 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: they're there, stay aggressive on fourth down. But to me, 1198 01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: if points present themselves, go on and get them. Because 1199 01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,040 Speaker 1: I could totally see this being a twenty seventeen, seventeen 1200 01:05:03,120 --> 01:05:06,120 Speaker 1: fourteen style game that's gonna do it for us. Be 1201 01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: sure to download and subscribe to the Chargers Podcast Network 1202 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 1: regular listen to podcasts. We're on YouTube, We're on chargers 1203 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:15,920 Speaker 1: dot com, the official Chargers app. Have a great weekend. 1204 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,160 Speaker 1: We hope to see it Sofi Stadium on Sunday. For 1205 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,640 Speaker 1: the voice of the Chargers, Matt Muddy Spit, I'm Chris 1206 01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:21,880 Speaker 1: har