WEBVTT - Chad Michael Murray Christmas 0:00:00.720 --> 0:00:17.680 I am all in, kiss you, I am all in 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.919 with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Hey everybody, 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:26.680 Scott Patterson, we are really excited to talk with this 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.720 very special guest. Uh. He's a massive guest and I 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:34.760 think you're all going to be very pleased. Um. We 0:00:34.840 --> 0:00:38.400 are going to be talking with Chad Michael Murray who 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:42.000 portrayed Tristan so beautifully. Uh. And as my under staying, 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.400 this is the last time we're gonna see him in 0:00:43.440 --> 0:00:46.680 this episode, so uh that we're gonna drop after we 0:00:46.760 --> 0:00:50.240 dropped this episode. It's gonna be a runaway little boy. 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.639 I think was his last episode unfortunately. Um. And we're 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.320 gonna get to know Chad a little better and talk 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:01.360 about a little behind the scenes stuff and his characterization, 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:03.720 his impressions. To go more girls. Let's just bring him in. 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:07.839 Can't wait. Buddy the man? How are you doing? Pal? 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:12.120 And I'm living a dream man. You look good, you 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:18.360 look better. I miss your face more. Have you have 0:01:18.480 --> 0:01:20.480 you been doing? An old Spice said that you just 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:24.000 came back from You look very manly. You look very 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:29.160 old spicy. Well, you know, I appreciate it. We did 0:01:29.200 --> 0:01:32.600 we we did have November. Um, no, no, No, it's 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:38.720 a it's a combination of things. Actually had surgery about 0:01:38.760 --> 0:01:41.160 a month ago. Yeah, I did kind of turn it down, 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:44.200 turn everything off, and I had my I tore the 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:49.000 labor off my and my hip off the bone. Now, 0:01:49.080 --> 0:01:54.280 how did you do that interval sprints? Oh? God, oh man, 0:01:54.520 --> 0:01:58.000 you know I almost did that same thing lifting weights. Yeah, 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.520 I know how. I mean, I didn't quite have to 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.480 have surgery, but I know what that feels like. God 0:02:02.760 --> 0:02:05.240 darn it. So I made it. I made a promise 0:02:05.280 --> 0:02:07.840 to myself. I'm not said I'm not shaving until I 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.640 can run again. It works, man, it works, It's working huge. 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.960 You're looking very you know, spicy. Well, it's the season. 0:02:16.040 --> 0:02:18.520 So tomorrow, believe it or not, this entire thing, all 0:02:18.560 --> 0:02:22.720 of this will be white story. What. Yeah, I'm taking 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:25.000 the kids out and uh, we're gonna, you know, show 0:02:25.040 --> 0:02:28.120 them about giving back. And so I'm I'm Santa Jr. 0:02:28.320 --> 0:02:31.280 I'm not old enough to be Santa just yet, Santa Jr. 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:35.800 And you know, I had the great privilege of working 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:41.239 with Sarah, your wife. She played my daughter. I adore hers. 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.720 She played my daughter in the event two thousand and 0:02:43.760 --> 0:02:47.680 ten at NBC, that big Events series that The UH 0:02:48.120 --> 0:02:50.640 went a year and then I didn't get renewed, but 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.919 I got to work for Sarah and I'm so glad 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:57.160 you guys are together and you have two children, and 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:02.200 isn't that wonderful? That's just wonderful. I'm so blessed beyond man. 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:05.320 She is, She's my rock. We do everything together, so 0:03:05.400 --> 0:03:08.560 wherever wherever work is, we go as a pack. The 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.160 whole family goat right. And another thing, I wasn't aware 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:16.480 of this, but my producers informed me that you had 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.680 some very complimentary things to say about me. So I 0:03:20.720 --> 0:03:25.000 want to thank you for that that that is very nice. 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.320 I compliment a lot of people all the time. I 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:29.880 don't hear it so much about me, so it was 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:34.200 really it's really nice to you here. You know, everybody 0:03:34.240 --> 0:03:40.000 I talked, everybody I talked things to say about you. 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:43.400 You come in. You are luke man. You give love 0:03:43.560 --> 0:03:47.120 in a way and you're also able to receive it. 0:03:47.160 --> 0:03:49.840 But you're so humble and so kind. Like you felt 0:03:49.880 --> 0:03:52.600 like that really really cool uncle when Jared and I 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.520 were there season one. For me, I was there season one, 0:03:56.560 --> 0:03:58.760 you felt like that really cool uncle. And then we 0:03:58.800 --> 0:04:02.240 did another project later on down the road and again 0:04:02.360 --> 0:04:04.520 you were just awesome. And every time I've ever crossed 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:06.600 paths with you, man, You're just nothing but hug smiles 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.280 and love and it just it goes a long way. 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:12.000 But thank you, man. I really appreciate that. I had 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:14.800 a wonderful time and you were you were you were 0:04:14.840 --> 0:04:19.160 great guys, and I was just happy to be there. Um, 0:04:19.240 --> 0:04:22.560 And you know, Jared was very uh, Jared had a 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.960 lot of questions. I remember, young eighteen year old Jared 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:29.040 had a lot of questions. And I did I remember 0:04:29.440 --> 0:04:32.560 taking I don't know that I took you under my 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.640 wings so much, but I kind of did. Um. But 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:39.359 Jared had a lot of questions and he was just 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:41.719 so wide eyed. And I were you a little older 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:44.200 than him when you came understan You were a couple 0:04:44.200 --> 0:04:46.600 of years older, right, a couple of years older. He 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:50.320 came in Gilmore at seventeen. Remember he was right star 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:54.400 in school, straight out of high school Choice Awards, straight 0:04:54.400 --> 0:04:58.599 into a show with boom, first audition, boom. It was 0:04:58.640 --> 0:05:02.080 like Alexis, remember Alexis up, well, she came out in 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:05.200 y U. She was like what a freshman year? Yeah, 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:10.560 oh my goodness. Alright, for me. I'd already, you know, 0:05:10.680 --> 0:05:13.520 kind of I've done a couple of gigs here and there, 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:15.719 and I had screen tested for a couple of things, 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:18.119 so I kind of knew a little bit, but I learned. 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:19.960 I you know, I really sharpened my teeth a lot 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:21.559 on that show. And that show is so very different 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.560 than any other show that have been on even still 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:26.440 to this day, because of how quick everything is and 0:05:26.480 --> 0:05:29.120 how there's no time for beats. There's no pauses, so 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.160 you really have to rehearse at home to make sure 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.240 that you're able to fill in those moments with the 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:36.760 emotion that should have actually existed, even though you don't 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:39.640 have time to play it out right. Yeah, made everybody 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.039 felt like playing in the NFL. It's like the young 0:05:42.120 --> 0:05:44.680 quarterbacks out of college ago. This is too fast. It 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:46.920 takes a couple of years, right, the thing that you 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:53.080 can plead a pass without getting intercepted. But anyway, let's 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:58.880 get into uh, your history with the show. Um, and 0:05:58.920 --> 0:06:03.000 I'm gonna need my spell X here we go, boom there. Jeez, 0:06:03.080 --> 0:06:04.719 you look even better now that I can see you. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:13.040 Oh my god. Uh, this is called red standard. How 0:06:13.040 --> 0:06:16.880 old your boy boys? Six? Oh? Man? I have a 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:18.520 seven year old. I have a seven year old boy, 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:21.040 and it's just such a one I do. He's it's 0:06:21.080 --> 0:06:25.960 such a wonderful age. Oh my god, such a He's 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:29.039 not a sports kid, No, No, he's more of a 0:06:29.200 --> 0:06:33.440 robotics math kid. He uh, he likes building stuff. He's 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.400 obsessed with robotics. I have him in robotics camp and 0:06:37.080 --> 0:06:40.520 he's just kind of I don't know, it's like, I mean, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:43.440 he can do sports and I've taught him baseball and 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.600 basketball all the stuff, and he's got a great arm, 0:06:45.640 --> 0:06:48.120 he's got all all the stuff, but he just doesn't 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.360 want to do it so much, you know, And I'm 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:51.960 not going to force him. I just you know, he's 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:54.200 a great artist. He just one student of the month 0:06:54.240 --> 0:06:57.520 at is elementary school. And you know, I'm just kind 0:06:57.520 --> 0:07:01.080 of letting him follow his sort of talents and his 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:05.640 passions and supporting that. So that's what you do. That's 0:07:05.640 --> 0:07:08.880 what you do, Scott. I love you just nursed her, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:13.320 you n I love it. Well, my point the same thing, hybrid. 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.320 He loved building and he loves He's so good at 0:07:16.320 --> 0:07:19.320 school it's blows my mind. He's got a photographic memory 0:07:19.400 --> 0:07:23.520 and so forget forget anything that you try to cover 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.400 up because he remembers what sports is, the where he's 0:07:26.440 --> 0:07:30.720 going now. Um, And he's just big. He's big, man. 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:34.560 He's like, well, you're big. And Sarah's tall. She's five ten, 0:07:34.720 --> 0:07:38.120 isn't she five nine? Five tens? She's tall. Her dad's 0:07:38.160 --> 0:07:40.440 a giant. I'm the runt of the litter in my family. 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:43.440 My brothers my like, my dad's six to. My brothers 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:45.440 are six five, six four or six three dad six 0:07:45.480 --> 0:07:48.520 to mothers five eleven. But you're six to you're sick 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.280 good six. I'm six one. I'm six one. I'm six one. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.160 My wife's tall. But Sarah's father, he's got that like 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.400 his myke cabs are the size of his wrists and 0:07:58.440 --> 0:08:01.840 that's what our son has. And I can't even pick 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.240 him up anymore. He's only six. Come on, he's a beast. 0:08:06.560 --> 0:08:09.800 Oh my goodness, it's so great. I love being a dad. 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:13.400 Oh my god, congratulate your boy. I got your boy 0:08:13.880 --> 0:08:15.360 went when when we're out there in the world, we 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:20.800 gotta make sure we link up, get the kids together. Absolutely, man, Um, 0:08:20.840 --> 0:08:22.640 what do you remember about the role of Tristan on 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:25.080 Gilmore Girls? Do you remember about that we we just 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.160 we you know, we we did an episode and we 0:08:28.160 --> 0:08:32.240 were so uh. I mean, I just love your character. 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:35.320 I love that guy. I love Tristan, I really feel him. 0:08:35.360 --> 0:08:38.959 And that's such a tragic last line when you're going 0:08:39.000 --> 0:08:42.280 off to military school, when you say so long Mary. 0:08:42.559 --> 0:08:45.880 I mean, it was so filled with meaning and it's 0:08:45.920 --> 0:08:49.280 almost like you saying that you love her, and I 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.280 just I can't say that to you now, but I 0:08:52.320 --> 0:08:54.320 want you to know that. But anyway, what do you 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:59.640 what do you remember about that role? I always remember 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.000 when I originally made notes, because I like to make 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.760 notes on every script that I read, no matter what. 0:09:06.160 --> 0:09:08.960 And I just remember that I wanted him to be 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:16.440 the guy that you didn't know if you should be 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:19.040 close to him, but boil boy, did you want to be? 0:09:20.040 --> 0:09:22.640 And so I always wanted to keep everybody at arms distance, 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:27.840 and so everything was a deflection, right, and everything that 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.960 he did, which is a very you know, it's a 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.719 typical stereotype that we see in in the world, right. 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.800 We see this type of personality that is so damaged 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:42.320 due to childhood trauma, you know, interestance cases, parenting, that 0:09:42.920 --> 0:09:45.679 you belittle others to make yourself feel good. Even though 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:47.920 it's not doing any good and it's this vicious cycle 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:50.080 of a downward spiral. Even though he's honest and true. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:53.160 Emotions were that he found her intriguing, he thought she 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.280 was smart, intelligent, beautiful, and that he did love her. Um, 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:58.560 he just didn't know how to voice his feelings because 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.079 he wasn't raised in the family that it's such h 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:03.800 that's what I remember about me. He's the guy that 0:10:03.880 --> 0:10:05.640 you want to be near, but I'm not sure I 0:10:05.679 --> 0:10:10.240 shouldn't right right, Well, Uh, mission accomplished there because that 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:12.920 I feel that tension when I'm watching the character to 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.440 push the poll. I'm attracted to him but repelled at 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:18.640 the same time. And it's it's it's a very interesting 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.160 and very difficult to pull off. It's a testament to 0:10:21.200 --> 0:10:24.000 your skills because that's really it's skills in front of 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:27.160 a camera. Uh. When it comes down to it's fun 0:10:27.200 --> 0:10:31.040 Amy Amy, Amy crushed it. What can we say right right? 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:34.120 When they serve up that kind of dialogue and those 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.040 kinds of situations. You know, I'm not saying that it's 0:10:38.080 --> 0:10:41.400 easy to pull off, but it is just easier. You 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:44.800 know that it's easy when it's when it's served up 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.320 for you on a silver platter. It's easier to make 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:49.840 a meal out of it, and you have a piece 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:51.600 meal and you're going, Okay, Now, I got some work 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.240 to do to assemble a B C D. And as 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:56.160 I've gotten older, I mean it's been twenty two years 0:10:56.200 --> 0:11:00.560 now since I've been working in the industry, and uh, 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:04.679 it gets easier as you get older. That's why I 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.120 chose the career, because I knew the longer I was 0:11:07.160 --> 0:11:09.840 in it, the better I would get, the easier it 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:14.720 would become, and therefore more fascinating to be involved in. 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.800 Um what do you remember about that your first day 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:23.120 on set? I'm sure it was nerves and tension. I 0:11:23.200 --> 0:11:27.440 don't wait, Scott when it comes to memories, oh did. 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:30.520 I always felt when I was younger that like, we 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:32.760 only have were like a computer, right, and you get 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:36.040 the one terabyte system, you gotta upgrade two terabyte system. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:38.439 I feel like I was like somewhere around like the 0:11:39.120 --> 0:11:43.800 you know, thirty two gig iPhone. New information comes in 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:53.600 and I blame I blame concussions to be completely too many. 0:11:53.720 --> 0:11:57.160 I played football for eleven years a boarding and I had, 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.079 you know, a bunch of brothers and we beat the 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.960 living snot out of each other. Growing up, My long 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.120 term memory is kind of shot. How many brothers did 0:12:05.160 --> 0:12:09.600 you do you have? Uh? Uh, let's see, don't you remember? 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.880 I'm working on it. So I have three natural and 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.640 then I have a half another half brother. Then I 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:19.679 have a step brother. Oh my god, I had three 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:24.440 step brothers. Yeah, wow, yeah, I know what that's like. Yeah, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:33.160 a lot of fights. Yeah, alright, So let's I have 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.200 a list of fan questions here, I'll go down. Let's 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:38.199 see which one. Let's I'll try to cherry pick a 0:12:38.280 --> 0:12:42.559 couple of try to make a little easier. Do you 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:48.040 think Tristan had true feelings for Rory? Yeah? Not even questions, 0:12:48.320 --> 0:12:52.920 not even question too. Um, what was it like working 0:12:53.000 --> 0:13:01.319 with her? Alexis someone Alexis she's uh man, she's like 0:13:03.160 --> 0:13:05.199 the ndon. You got to pull the layers back on. 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:09.360 She can close off to everybody, and she's so well 0:13:09.400 --> 0:13:13.160 at walling everybody off right, and you peel the layers 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:19.040 to get to the heart with her, and so, you know, 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:21.520 it just depends on the type of personality you are 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:23.760 and who you are and how trusting you are, and 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:26.240 you better darn well be a trusting, good human being 0:13:26.320 --> 0:13:28.600 in order to appeal those layers back. And that's kind 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:32.120 of that's what I noticed, And that was you know, gosh, 0:13:32.160 --> 0:13:34.160 it was twenty years still, so it was a long 0:13:34.200 --> 0:13:37.120 time ago, but that back then, that's what I that's 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:41.560 what I recall. That is perceptive. That's very perceptive. I felt. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.680 I feel exactly the same way. Not that I would 0:13:43.679 --> 0:13:46.640 have verbalized it with such eloquence as you just did, 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.640 but man, I agree, I agree with you. I don't know. 0:13:50.800 --> 0:13:52.400 I probably had a book I was reading off it 0:13:52.480 --> 0:13:58.559 was a cheat chee uh um. What would you have 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:03.559 liked to see them explore more on the relationship or 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:06.880 would you have liked to explore that relationship with them more? 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:10.360 Because I think that's one of the things that I mean, 0:14:10.440 --> 0:14:13.320 it left me wanting so much more. When you exited 0:14:13.360 --> 0:14:16.319 that series, you were no longer there, so that relationship, 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:20.600 to me, had the moment it was so fraught with potential. Yeah, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.560 and well they built that, they built it, and um, 0:14:23.840 --> 0:14:28.480 you know, I will take responsibilities on me um that 0:14:29.280 --> 0:14:31.720 you know, I don't think the true depth of that 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:35.880 relationship evercame at fruition. It's on me, um. I don't know. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.400 There was an episode in season two where Tristan goes 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:41.920 off to military school in North Carolina, i e. Being 0:14:42.480 --> 0:14:45.680 Dawson's Creek, i e. Being One Tree Hill where we 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:49.800 shot in North Carolina. That was military school, my friend. 0:14:50.480 --> 0:14:54.760 So for me, it was, um, it was about just 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:59.720 wanting as an actor, you know this, trying on different clothes, 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:04.360 different costumes, different walks, different talks, different fields, getting up 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:10.080 in the morning and having a fresh shirt. It's different, right, 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:12.800 And sitting in the same character for too long can 0:15:12.880 --> 0:15:15.960 get stagnant, and we always forget how blessed we are 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:19.680 when we're in those moments, right, because creatively you can 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.560 get stifled. Not that the character was stifling, They did 0:15:22.600 --> 0:15:25.360 a great job. But I was so young that I 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.320 needed to find out who Chat is? Who is Chat 0:15:28.440 --> 0:15:30.640 as an actor? Where can I go? What can I do? 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:35.080 And you know it led to me discovering so much 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.640 about myself that I genuinely wouldn't be the man I 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:40.280 was today. Without making that decision, you know, I could 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:44.120 have stayed there and spent six seasons on. So they 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:50.040 offered you a full deal. Yeah, but yeah, we we 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.160 had we had the discussion and for me, it was 0:15:53.520 --> 0:15:56.600 I had at the time, I had a deal with 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.800 Warner Brooks. So I had gone let's say I moved 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:04.120 out to in September and by January it felt like 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:07.560 old Hollywood. I had a development deal with Warren Brothers. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.720 I screen tested for a pilot called Day One, and uh, 0:16:12.160 --> 0:16:16.680 I didn't get it. It went to Paul. Paul was 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:20.080 a Luski, which is I forgot his real name or 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:27.320 his new name. His name Paul Vampire Diaries, Paul Paul 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:29.840 right right, right, right, right right, and he we we 0:16:29.960 --> 0:16:33.000 tested opposite. He got the pilot, and they gave me 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.400 a development deal and said, all right, you're in house now, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:39.640 so you know when things would come through. They'd SENTI 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.360 scripts I audition and Gilmore Gross was the first thing 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.600 that came on this late. And so when the opportunity 0:16:44.640 --> 0:16:47.360 came through to stay on Gilmore and really see I 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:49.760 just wanted to know more about me, and I said, 0:16:49.840 --> 0:16:52.080 you know, I'd love the opportunity to continue to look 0:16:52.240 --> 0:16:55.160 and find out what that thing is that is me. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.760 And one free Hill came around and there was the 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:02.880 choice between Lucas and Nathan, and I remember that decision 0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:04.840 I had to make, and Nathan had a lot of 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:07.640 trysting qualities in them on the Onetrey Hill. On Onetree Hill, 0:17:08.320 --> 0:17:10.720 Lucas was a moral compass and I hadn't played that 0:17:10.880 --> 0:17:12.600 yet at that point in my career. I was always 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:15.879 playing the backway, whether it was Dawson's Creek, Gilmore Girls, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:19.720 whatever it was. And so I chose a more compass 0:17:20.040 --> 0:17:21.679 and I wanted to go a different round discover more 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:25.200 about myself. And that's that's that's the truth, Scott. I 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.240 laid it out for you and you're like sitting in 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:32.600 the barber's chair. I just unveiled my step. Um. For 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:35.399 those of you listening who do not know what a 0:17:35.480 --> 0:17:37.560 holding deal or a development deal, was it a holding 0:17:37.600 --> 0:17:40.720 deal A classic holding deal, right class golden deal? Yeah. 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:43.560 So what that is is the studio will and they're 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:47.800 very rare um. They think very highly of people if 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:50.760 they give them a holding deal or a development deal 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:53.200 is uh. And they're all different types of development deals 0:17:53.240 --> 0:17:55.800 with like major movie stars and they're far more complex. 0:17:55.920 --> 0:18:00.399 But a holding deal, UH with one of brothers for 0:18:00.600 --> 0:18:03.760 TV is they will pay you X amount of money 0:18:03.880 --> 0:18:07.880 over a certain period of time to stay in their stable. 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:11.280 Um and they have the right of first refusal. You know. 0:18:11.320 --> 0:18:13.000 I think you can do other things, you just have 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:16.080 to get permission, but not in that time frame. Uh yeah. 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:17.520 And I think I was allowed to do like three 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:23.840 guest episodes. Um, and if another pilot came up, they 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.520 had to be aware of it and they could say 0:18:27.240 --> 0:18:29.560 you can't do it, you know, like BBS offered me 0:18:29.640 --> 0:18:31.960 a show. Then I'm owned by one of brothers. I 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.560 was one of brothers. Basically awesome. I mean, what a 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:38.000 We're a great compliment like to me, Warner Brothers is 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:41.480 always the the epitome of like, that's where I want 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:44.320 to be. I remember growing up and seeing the Warner 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.880 Brothers logo, you know, and watching Looney Tunes and all 0:18:47.960 --> 0:18:50.399 those different shows and just seeing that. I remember the 0:18:50.400 --> 0:18:52.120 first time I walked on they can Walk Close a lot, 0:18:52.760 --> 0:18:55.639 I had felt like not so much that I made it, 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.359 but it was a little bit of disbelief coming on. 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.960 Like I'm on the Warner Brothers lot where so many 0:19:03.240 --> 0:19:07.280 iconic films, much was shot, So many stories could be 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.680 told if these walls could talk, and remember we shot 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:15.480 we filmed next to Friends are Set, so like so 0:19:15.760 --> 0:19:19.440 many things happened there, and I was so just blown 0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:21.760 away by one of those and still grateful to this 0:19:21.880 --> 0:19:23.800 day for the opportunity to come in and to make 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.480 television and those plaques on the side of the sound 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:29.360 stages where we shot. You know, we had a couple 0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:31.239 of different sound stages we use, but the one of them, 0:19:31.280 --> 0:19:33.520 the main one, was like, that's where they shot street 0:19:33.560 --> 0:19:35.600 car named Desire for God's Sake, and it's like, you're 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.399 in there where Brando used to act, and it's like, 0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.199 you're kidding me, So yeah, it's it's it's quite something. Um, 0:19:43.440 --> 0:19:47.480 it's quite something. Uh it uh, all right, So the friction. 0:19:47.960 --> 0:19:50.959 Let's talk about the friction. There was friction with your 0:19:51.080 --> 0:19:55.720 character with almost every other character. What were your experiences 0:19:55.880 --> 0:20:03.800 like with Paris lizoh Wheel What were those like? Because 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:05.840 we talked about Paris on the show a lot, So 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:11.960 what was your experience like her? Gosh, she was such 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:16.480 a she had she was such an actress. I remember 0:20:16.520 --> 0:20:21.200 always feeling slightly intimidated by her. I don't know that's true. 0:20:21.440 --> 0:20:23.879 I don't know why, but at the time, I definitely 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.119 remember just feeling intimidated by her. I don't know if 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.880 it was because I don't necessarily know, but she kind 0:20:28.880 --> 0:20:31.720 of seemed like she came from a theater and trained background. 0:20:32.080 --> 0:20:33.680 It was a total character that she was putting on. 0:20:33.840 --> 0:20:37.399 It wasn't her playing any like random version of herself, right, 0:20:37.880 --> 0:20:40.320 So she was really delving in to get there, and 0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:46.800 it was intimidating and her words always landed. And as 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:51.320 an actor, especially when you're just starting off and something 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:54.960 hits you, you feel it. And so I remember just 0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:59.399 always feeling it when she sent the message. That's what 0:20:59.520 --> 0:21:02.359 I remember most. And she was great. Everyone was great 0:21:02.880 --> 0:21:06.480 on the girls were all everyone was so kind, And 0:21:06.640 --> 0:21:08.280 you know, I always felt like a fish out of 0:21:08.280 --> 0:21:10.840 water because I come in, I do one episode and 0:21:10.920 --> 0:21:12.320 then be gone for three. And then I come in 0:21:12.400 --> 0:21:14.240 and I do two episodes and I'll be gone for 0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.320 one and everyone else was kind of there the majority 0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:21.359 of the time season one, So it always felt like 0:21:21.600 --> 0:21:24.280 I just had to walk on. Then I used to 0:21:24.359 --> 0:21:26.000 make sure that I didn't step on any toad, you 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:29.639 know what I mean. Um, here's a question from a 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:34.680 fantas from Sarah and Tulsa, Oklahoma. Um, and this is 0:21:34.680 --> 0:21:37.320 a question I get a lot, you know how similar? 0:21:37.440 --> 0:21:40.080 What are the similarities between Luke and myself? What what 0:21:40.320 --> 0:21:47.800 are the similarities between you and Tristan any I mean 0:21:48.280 --> 0:21:51.800 when we delve delve earlier, we delved into the the 0:21:51.960 --> 0:21:54.920 psychosis of Tristan and how he likes to keep people 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:58.199 at arms distance. And I would say that that's very 0:21:58.280 --> 0:22:01.760 true with me, especially more today. A um that is 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:05.800 really built. Um, I built a layer of kind of 0:22:05.840 --> 0:22:09.160 scar to shortop scar to shortop of scar tissue where 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:14.600 letting people in is much harder today. UM, I don't 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:20.600 behave in the irrational sense that Tristan did, and that 0:22:20.720 --> 0:22:23.120 that's his youth, right and and some people never grow 0:22:23.200 --> 0:22:24.879 out of that. Some people do the work to get 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:27.800 away from that, and UM, you know, I think that 0:22:27.920 --> 0:22:30.240 was part of my growing up, right. There was always 0:22:30.280 --> 0:22:32.760 a part of me that I think I would want 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.639 to lash out at things that I was either envious 0:22:35.720 --> 0:22:37.560 u or jealous of, or whatever it may have been. 0:22:37.640 --> 0:22:39.359 I would think that there was definitely parts of me 0:22:39.600 --> 0:22:43.320 interesting as Tristan in me. But if I was to 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:46.600 sit back and say, today, just keeping people at arms 0:22:46.640 --> 0:22:49.320 distance and not necessarily letting people in until you can 0:22:49.440 --> 0:22:52.760 really uncover like Alexis, and you peel that onion back 0:22:52.840 --> 0:22:55.399 and you go, now I know who you are. You 0:22:55.440 --> 0:22:57.639 know because Sarah always says this, and I love I 0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:00.400 love this about Sarah. You know, we took our time 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.320 doing the whole courting thing because she's like, look, a 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:09.239