1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: I am all in, kiss you, I am all in 2 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: with Scott Patterson and I heart radio podcast. Hey everybody, 3 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: Scott Patterson, we are really excited to talk with this 4 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: very special guest. Uh. He's a massive guest and I 5 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: think you're all going to be very pleased. Um. We 6 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: are going to be talking with Chad Michael Murray who 7 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: portrayed Tristan so beautifully. Uh. And as my under staying, 8 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: this is the last time we're gonna see him in 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: this episode, so uh that we're gonna drop after we 10 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: dropped this episode. It's gonna be a runaway little boy. 11 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,639 Speaker 1: I think was his last episode unfortunately. Um. And we're 12 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna get to know Chad a little better and talk 13 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: about a little behind the scenes stuff and his characterization, 14 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: his impressions. To go more girls. Let's just bring him in. 15 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:07,839 Speaker 1: Can't wait. Buddy the man? How are you doing? Pal? 16 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: And I'm living a dream man. You look good, you 17 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: look better. I miss your face more. Have you have 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 1: you been doing? An old Spice said that you just 19 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: came back from You look very manly. You look very 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: old spicy. Well, you know, I appreciate it. We did 21 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 1: we we did have November. Um, no, no, No, it's 22 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: a it's a combination of things. Actually had surgery about 23 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: a month ago. Yeah, I did kind of turn it down, 24 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: turn everything off, and I had my I tore the 25 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: labor off my and my hip off the bone. Now, 26 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: how did you do that interval sprints? Oh? God, oh man, 27 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: you know I almost did that same thing lifting weights. Yeah, 28 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 1: I know how. I mean, I didn't quite have to 29 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: have surgery, but I know what that feels like. God 30 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: darn it. So I made it. I made a promise 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,840 Speaker 1: to myself. I'm not said I'm not shaving until I 32 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: can run again. It works, man, it works, It's working huge. 33 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 1: You're looking very you know, spicy. Well, it's the season. 34 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 1: So tomorrow, believe it or not, this entire thing, all 35 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: of this will be white story. What. Yeah, I'm taking 36 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: the kids out and uh, we're gonna, you know, show 37 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 1: them about giving back. And so I'm I'm Santa Jr. 38 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: I'm not old enough to be Santa just yet, Santa Jr. 39 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I had the great privilege of working 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: with Sarah, your wife. She played my daughter. I adore hers. 41 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: She played my daughter in the event two thousand and 42 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: ten at NBC, that big Events series that The UH 43 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: went a year and then I didn't get renewed, but 44 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: I got to work for Sarah and I'm so glad 45 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: you guys are together and you have two children, and 46 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: isn't that wonderful? That's just wonderful. I'm so blessed beyond man. 47 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: She is, She's my rock. We do everything together, so 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: wherever wherever work is, we go as a pack. The 49 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: whole family goat right. And another thing, I wasn't aware 50 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: of this, but my producers informed me that you had 51 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 1: some very complimentary things to say about me. So I 52 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: want to thank you for that that that is very nice. 53 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I compliment a lot of people all the time. I 54 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: don't hear it so much about me, so it was 55 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: really it's really nice to you here. You know, everybody 56 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: I talked, everybody I talked things to say about you. 57 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: You come in. You are luke man. You give love 58 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: in a way and you're also able to receive it. 59 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: But you're so humble and so kind. Like you felt 60 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: like that really really cool uncle when Jared and I 61 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: were there season one. For me, I was there season one, 62 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: you felt like that really cool uncle. And then we 63 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: did another project later on down the road and again 64 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: you were just awesome. And every time I've ever crossed 65 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: paths with you, man, You're just nothing but hug smiles 66 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: and love and it just it goes a long way. 67 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: But thank you, man. I really appreciate that. I had 68 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: a wonderful time and you were you were you were 69 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 1: great guys, and I was just happy to be there. Um, 70 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: And you know, Jared was very uh, Jared had a 71 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 1: lot of questions. I remember, young eighteen year old Jared 72 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,040 Speaker 1: had a lot of questions. And I did I remember 73 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: taking I don't know that I took you under my 74 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: wings so much, but I kind of did. Um. But 75 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: Jared had a lot of questions and he was just 76 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 1: so wide eyed. And I were you a little older 77 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: than him when you came understan You were a couple 78 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 1: of years older, right, a couple of years older. He 79 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: came in Gilmore at seventeen. Remember he was right star 80 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: in school, straight out of high school Choice Awards, straight 81 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,599 Speaker 1: into a show with boom, first audition, boom. It was 82 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: like Alexis, remember Alexis up, well, she came out in 83 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 1: y U. She was like what a freshman year? Yeah, 84 00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: oh my goodness. Alright, for me. I'd already, you know, 85 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: kind of I've done a couple of gigs here and there, 86 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: and I had screen tested for a couple of things, 87 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,119 Speaker 1: so I kind of knew a little bit, but I learned. 88 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: I you know, I really sharpened my teeth a lot 89 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:21,559 Speaker 1: on that show. And that show is so very different 90 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: than any other show that have been on even still 91 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: to this day, because of how quick everything is and 92 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: how there's no time for beats. There's no pauses, so 93 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: you really have to rehearse at home to make sure 94 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: that you're able to fill in those moments with the 95 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: emotion that should have actually existed, even though you don't 96 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: have time to play it out right. Yeah, made everybody 97 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,039 Speaker 1: felt like playing in the NFL. It's like the young 98 00:05:42,120 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks out of college ago. This is too fast. It 99 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: takes a couple of years, right, the thing that you 100 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: can plead a pass without getting intercepted. But anyway, let's 101 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: get into uh, your history with the show. Um, and 102 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna need my spell X here we go, boom there. Jeez, 103 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 1: you look even better now that I can see you. 104 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god. Uh, this is called red standard. How 105 00:06:13,040 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: old your boy boys? Six? Oh? Man? I have a 106 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: seven year old. I have a seven year old boy, 107 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 1: and it's just such a one I do. He's it's 108 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: such a wonderful age. Oh my god, such a He's 109 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,039 Speaker 1: not a sports kid, No, No, he's more of a 110 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: robotics math kid. He uh, he likes building stuff. He's 111 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: obsessed with robotics. I have him in robotics camp and 112 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: he's just kind of I don't know, it's like, I mean, 113 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: he can do sports and I've taught him baseball and 114 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 1: basketball all the stuff, and he's got a great arm, 115 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,120 Speaker 1: he's got all all the stuff, but he just doesn't 116 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: want to do it so much, you know, And I'm 117 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: not going to force him. I just you know, he's 118 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: a great artist. He just one student of the month 119 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: at is elementary school. And you know, I'm just kind 120 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: of letting him follow his sort of talents and his 121 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: passions and supporting that. So that's what you do. That's 122 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 1: what you do, Scott. I love you just nursed her, 123 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: you n I love it. Well, my point the same thing, hybrid. 124 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: He loved building and he loves He's so good at 125 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: school it's blows my mind. He's got a photographic memory 126 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: and so forget forget anything that you try to cover 127 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 1: up because he remembers what sports is, the where he's 128 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 1: going now. Um, And he's just big. He's big, man. 129 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 1: He's like, well, you're big. And Sarah's tall. She's five ten, 130 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: isn't she five nine? Five tens? She's tall. Her dad's 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: a giant. I'm the runt of the litter in my family. 132 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: My brothers my like, my dad's six to. My brothers 133 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: are six five, six four or six three dad six 134 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: to mothers five eleven. But you're six to you're sick 135 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: good six. I'm six one. I'm six one. I'm six one. 136 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: My wife's tall. But Sarah's father, he's got that like 137 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: his myke cabs are the size of his wrists and 138 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: that's what our son has. And I can't even pick 139 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: him up anymore. He's only six. Come on, he's a beast. 140 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it's so great. I love being a dad. 141 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: Oh my god, congratulate your boy. I got your boy 142 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: went when when we're out there in the world, we 143 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: gotta make sure we link up, get the kids together. Absolutely, man, Um, 144 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: what do you remember about the role of Tristan on 145 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls? Do you remember about that we we just 146 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: we you know, we we did an episode and we 147 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: were so uh. I mean, I just love your character. 148 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: I love that guy. I love Tristan, I really feel him. 149 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,959 Speaker 1: And that's such a tragic last line when you're going 150 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: off to military school, when you say so long Mary. 151 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it was so filled with meaning and it's 152 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: almost like you saying that you love her, and I 153 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: just I can't say that to you now, but I 154 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: want you to know that. But anyway, what do you 155 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: what do you remember about that role? I always remember 156 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: when I originally made notes, because I like to make 157 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: notes on every script that I read, no matter what. 158 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: And I just remember that I wanted him to be 159 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: the guy that you didn't know if you should be 160 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: close to him, but boil boy, did you want to be? 161 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: And so I always wanted to keep everybody at arms distance, 162 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 1: and so everything was a deflection, right, and everything that 163 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: he did, which is a very you know, it's a 164 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,719 Speaker 1: typical stereotype that we see in in the world, right. 165 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: We see this type of personality that is so damaged 166 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: due to childhood trauma, you know, interestance cases, parenting, that 167 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: you belittle others to make yourself feel good. Even though 168 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: it's not doing any good and it's this vicious cycle 169 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: of a downward spiral. Even though he's honest and true. 170 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: Emotions were that he found her intriguing, he thought she 171 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: was smart, intelligent, beautiful, and that he did love her. Um, 172 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: he just didn't know how to voice his feelings because 173 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: he wasn't raised in the family that it's such h 174 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: that's what I remember about me. He's the guy that 175 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: you want to be near, but I'm not sure I 176 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: shouldn't right right, Well, Uh, mission accomplished there because that 177 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: I feel that tension when I'm watching the character to 178 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,440 Speaker 1: push the poll. I'm attracted to him but repelled at 179 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: the same time. And it's it's it's a very interesting 180 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: and very difficult to pull off. It's a testament to 181 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: your skills because that's really it's skills in front of 182 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: a camera. Uh. When it comes down to it's fun 183 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: Amy Amy, Amy crushed it. What can we say right right? 184 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: When they serve up that kind of dialogue and those 185 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: kinds of situations. You know, I'm not saying that it's 186 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 1: easy to pull off, but it is just easier. You 187 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: know that it's easy when it's when it's served up 188 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,320 Speaker 1: for you on a silver platter. It's easier to make 189 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: a meal out of it, and you have a piece 190 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:51,600 Speaker 1: meal and you're going, Okay, Now, I got some work 191 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: to do to assemble a B C D. And as 192 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 1: I've gotten older, I mean it's been twenty two years 193 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,560 Speaker 1: now since I've been working in the industry, and uh, 194 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: it gets easier as you get older. That's why I 195 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: chose the career, because I knew the longer I was 196 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 1: in it, the better I would get, the easier it 197 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: would become, and therefore more fascinating to be involved in. 198 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: Um what do you remember about that your first day 199 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 1: on set? I'm sure it was nerves and tension. I 200 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 1: don't wait, Scott when it comes to memories, oh did. 201 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: I always felt when I was younger that like, we 202 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: only have were like a computer, right, and you get 203 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: the one terabyte system, you gotta upgrade two terabyte system. 204 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 1: I feel like I was like somewhere around like the 205 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: you know, thirty two gig iPhone. New information comes in 206 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: and I blame I blame concussions to be completely too many. 207 00:11:53,720 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: I played football for eleven years a boarding and I had, 208 00:11:57,360 --> 00:11:59,079 Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of brothers and we beat the 209 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:01,960 Speaker 1: living snot out of each other. Growing up, My long 210 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: term memory is kind of shot. How many brothers did 211 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: you do you have? Uh? Uh, let's see, don't you remember? 212 00:12:10,559 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: I'm working on it. So I have three natural and 213 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: then I have a half another half brother. Then I 214 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: have a step brother. Oh my god, I had three 215 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 1: step brothers. Yeah, wow, yeah, I know what that's like. Yeah, 216 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 1: a lot of fights. Yeah, alright, So let's I have 217 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 1: a list of fan questions here, I'll go down. Let's 218 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 1: see which one. Let's I'll try to cherry pick a 219 00:12:38,280 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 1: couple of try to make a little easier. Do you 220 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: think Tristan had true feelings for Rory? Yeah? Not even questions, 221 00:12:48,320 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: not even question too. Um, what was it like working 222 00:12:53,000 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: with her? Alexis someone Alexis she's uh man, she's like 223 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 1: the ndon. You got to pull the layers back on. 224 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: She can close off to everybody, and she's so well 225 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: at walling everybody off right, and you peel the layers 226 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: to get to the heart with her, and so, you know, 227 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: it just depends on the type of personality you are 228 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: and who you are and how trusting you are, and 229 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: you better darn well be a trusting, good human being 230 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: in order to appeal those layers back. And that's kind 231 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: of that's what I noticed, And that was you know, gosh, 232 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 1: it was twenty years still, so it was a long 233 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: time ago, but that back then, that's what I that's 234 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: what I recall. That is perceptive. That's very perceptive. I felt. 235 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: I feel exactly the same way. Not that I would 236 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: have verbalized it with such eloquence as you just did, 237 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: but man, I agree, I agree with you. I don't know. 238 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: I probably had a book I was reading off it 239 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:58,559 Speaker 1: was a cheat chee uh um. What would you have 240 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 1: liked to see them explore more on the relationship or 241 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: would you have liked to explore that relationship with them more? 242 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: Because I think that's one of the things that I mean, 243 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,320 Speaker 1: it left me wanting so much more. When you exited 244 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,319 Speaker 1: that series, you were no longer there, so that relationship, 245 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: to me, had the moment it was so fraught with potential. Yeah, 246 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: and well they built that, they built it, and um, 247 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: you know, I will take responsibilities on me um that 248 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think the true depth of that 249 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: relationship evercame at fruition. It's on me, um. I don't know. 250 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: There was an episode in season two where Tristan goes 251 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: off to military school in North Carolina, i e. Being 252 00:14:42,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: Dawson's Creek, i e. Being One Tree Hill where we 253 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: shot in North Carolina. That was military school, my friend. 254 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: So for me, it was, um, it was about just 255 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: wanting as an actor, you know this, trying on different clothes, 256 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: different costumes, different walks, different talks, different fields, getting up 257 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: in the morning and having a fresh shirt. It's different, right, 258 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: And sitting in the same character for too long can 259 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: get stagnant, and we always forget how blessed we are 260 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: when we're in those moments, right, because creatively you can 261 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: get stifled. Not that the character was stifling, They did 262 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 1: a great job. But I was so young that I 263 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: needed to find out who Chat is? Who is Chat 264 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,640 Speaker 1: as an actor? Where can I go? What can I do? 265 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:35,080 Speaker 1: And you know it led to me discovering so much 266 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: about myself that I genuinely wouldn't be the man I 267 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: was today. Without making that decision, you know, I could 268 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: have stayed there and spent six seasons on. So they 269 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: offered you a full deal. Yeah, but yeah, we we 270 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: had we had the discussion and for me, it was 271 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: I had at the time, I had a deal with 272 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: Warner Brooks. So I had gone let's say I moved 273 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 1: out to in September and by January it felt like 274 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: old Hollywood. I had a development deal with Warren Brothers. 275 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: I screen tested for a pilot called Day One, and uh, 276 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: I didn't get it. It went to Paul. Paul was 277 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: a Luski, which is I forgot his real name or 278 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: his new name. His name Paul Vampire Diaries, Paul Paul 279 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: right right, right, right, right right, and he we we 280 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: tested opposite. He got the pilot, and they gave me 281 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: a development deal and said, all right, you're in house now, 282 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:39,640 Speaker 1: so you know when things would come through. They'd SENTI 283 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: scripts I audition and Gilmore Gross was the first thing 284 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: that came on this late. And so when the opportunity 285 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: came through to stay on Gilmore and really see I 286 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: just wanted to know more about me, and I said, 287 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 1: you know, I'd love the opportunity to continue to look 288 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: and find out what that thing is that is me. 289 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: And one free Hill came around and there was the 290 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: choice between Lucas and Nathan, and I remember that decision 291 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: I had to make, and Nathan had a lot of 292 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: trysting qualities in them on the Onetrey Hill. On Onetree Hill, 293 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,720 Speaker 1: Lucas was a moral compass and I hadn't played that 294 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: yet at that point in my career. I was always 295 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 1: playing the backway, whether it was Dawson's Creek, Gilmore Girls, 296 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 1: whatever it was. And so I chose a more compass 297 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: and I wanted to go a different round discover more 298 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: about myself. And that's that's that's the truth, Scott. I 299 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: laid it out for you and you're like sitting in 300 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: the barber's chair. I just unveiled my step. Um. For 301 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: those of you listening who do not know what a 302 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,560 Speaker 1: holding deal or a development deal, was it a holding 303 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: deal A classic holding deal, right class golden deal? Yeah. 304 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: So what that is is the studio will and they're 305 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: very rare um. They think very highly of people if 306 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: they give them a holding deal or a development deal 307 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: is uh. And they're all different types of development deals 308 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: with like major movie stars and they're far more complex. 309 00:17:55,920 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: But a holding deal, UH with one of brothers for 310 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: TV is they will pay you X amount of money 311 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: over a certain period of time to stay in their stable. 312 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: Um and they have the right of first refusal. You know. 313 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: I think you can do other things, you just have 314 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: to get permission, but not in that time frame. Uh yeah. 315 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: And I think I was allowed to do like three 316 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: guest episodes. Um, and if another pilot came up, they 317 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: had to be aware of it and they could say 318 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: you can't do it, you know, like BBS offered me 319 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 1: a show. Then I'm owned by one of brothers. I 320 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: was one of brothers. Basically awesome. I mean, what a 321 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: We're a great compliment like to me, Warner Brothers is 322 00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: always the the epitome of like, that's where I want 323 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: to be. I remember growing up and seeing the Warner 324 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Brothers logo, you know, and watching Looney Tunes and all 325 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: those different shows and just seeing that. I remember the 326 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,120 Speaker 1: first time I walked on they can Walk Close a lot, 327 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: I had felt like not so much that I made it, 328 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: but it was a little bit of disbelief coming on. 329 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: Like I'm on the Warner Brothers lot where so many 330 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: iconic films, much was shot, So many stories could be 331 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 1: told if these walls could talk, and remember we shot 332 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: we filmed next to Friends are Set, so like so 333 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: many things happened there, and I was so just blown 334 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: away by one of those and still grateful to this 335 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: day for the opportunity to come in and to make 336 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: television and those plaques on the side of the sound 337 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: stages where we shot. You know, we had a couple 338 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:31,239 Speaker 1: of different sound stages we use, but the one of them, 339 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: the main one, was like, that's where they shot street 340 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: car named Desire for God's Sake, and it's like, you're 341 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: in there where Brando used to act, and it's like, 342 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 1: you're kidding me, So yeah, it's it's it's quite something. Um, 343 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: it's quite something. Uh it uh, all right, So the friction. 344 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,959 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the friction. There was friction with your 345 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:55,720 Speaker 1: character with almost every other character. What were your experiences 346 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: like with Paris lizoh Wheel What were those like? Because 347 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 1: we talked about Paris on the show a lot, So 348 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 1: what was your experience like her? Gosh, she was such 349 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: a she had she was such an actress. I remember 350 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: always feeling slightly intimidated by her. I don't know that's true. 351 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: I don't know why, but at the time, I definitely 352 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: remember just feeling intimidated by her. I don't know if 353 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,880 Speaker 1: it was because I don't necessarily know, but she kind 354 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: of seemed like she came from a theater and trained background. 355 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 1: It was a total character that she was putting on. 356 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: It wasn't her playing any like random version of herself, right, 357 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: So she was really delving in to get there, and 358 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: it was intimidating and her words always landed. And as 359 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 1: an actor, especially when you're just starting off and something 360 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 1: hits you, you feel it. And so I remember just 361 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: always feeling it when she sent the message. That's what 362 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I remember most. And she was great. Everyone was great 363 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 1: on the girls were all everyone was so kind, And 364 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: you know, I always felt like a fish out of 365 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: water because I come in, I do one episode and 366 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: then be gone for three. And then I come in 367 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: and I do two episodes and I'll be gone for 368 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 1: one and everyone else was kind of there the majority 369 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: of the time season one, So it always felt like 370 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 1: I just had to walk on. Then I used to 371 00:21:24,359 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: make sure that I didn't step on any toad, you 372 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Um, here's a question from a 373 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 1: fantas from Sarah and Tulsa, Oklahoma. Um, and this is 374 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,320 Speaker 1: a question I get a lot, you know how similar? 375 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: What are the similarities between Luke and myself? What what 376 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: are the similarities between you and Tristan any I mean 377 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: when we delve delve earlier, we delved into the the 378 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: psychosis of Tristan and how he likes to keep people 379 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,199 Speaker 1: at arms distance. And I would say that that's very 380 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: true with me, especially more today. A um that is 381 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: really built. Um, I built a layer of kind of 382 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: scar to shortop scar to shortop of scar tissue where 383 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: letting people in is much harder today. UM, I don't 384 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:20,600 Speaker 1: behave in the irrational sense that Tristan did, and that 385 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: that's his youth, right and and some people never grow 386 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,879 Speaker 1: out of that. Some people do the work to get 387 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: away from that, and UM, you know, I think that 388 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: was part of my growing up, right. There was always 389 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: a part of me that I think I would want 390 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,639 Speaker 1: to lash out at things that I was either envious 391 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: u or jealous of, or whatever it may have been. 392 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: I would think that there was definitely parts of me 393 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: interesting as Tristan in me. But if I was to 394 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: sit back and say, today, just keeping people at arms 395 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: distance and not necessarily letting people in until you can 396 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: really uncover like Alexis, and you peel that onion back 397 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: and you go, now I know who you are. You 398 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,639 Speaker 1: know because Sarah always says this, and I love I 399 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,400 Speaker 1: love this about Sarah. You know, we took our time 400 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: doing the whole courting thing because she's like, look, a 401 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,239 Speaker 1: leopard always shows spots. Eventually, you know you can. You can. 402 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: You can fake it for only so long before you're 403 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 1: going to start to show who you really are. And 404 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,000 Speaker 1: I love that patient approach instead of jumping into things. 405 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: So that's where i'd say, underneath the surface, that's where 406 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: Tristan and I agree. Not to mention we both have 407 00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: the same hair. You both do have great hair, that's 408 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: for sure, the same. I didn't say great. I will 409 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,879 Speaker 1: look at me. I think I have good hair, but 410 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: compared to you, I mean, look at those locks, like 411 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: it was beautiful. Yeah, a little curler any more. And 412 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:47,959 Speaker 1: I don't even have a columb anymore. Who am I folding? 413 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: You know? I use a cut just I don't. I've 414 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: never used to colmb on my hair, calmb on my beard. 415 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, he's a call on my shoulder hair. 416 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: Uh can we talk anyway? Yeah? Do you think that? 417 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: And here's this is from Margaret from Orlando, Florida. In 418 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:28,919 Speaker 1: your opinion, was Tristan rude or was he just misunderstood? Well, 419 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: it was it was rude. There's there's no question about 420 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: whether he was rude or not. Whether you misunderstood or not, 421 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,919 Speaker 1: you still have there's an action to a reaction, right, 422 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: or there's a reaction to someone else's action. Just because 423 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: he may or may not have act in a certain 424 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: way doesn't mean it wasn't rude, even if he was misunderstood. 425 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: So I think it's a combination of both. Was Tristan 426 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: misunderstood and if you were to sit down with Tristan 427 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: in like a scenario where he felt comfortable, I think 428 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: you'd find now all sorts of things that nobody knew 429 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: about him. You know, I guarantee his father and his 430 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,520 Speaker 1: mother were not in his life. I guarantee he was 431 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,880 Speaker 1: a rogue soldier that was moving down and every day 432 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: he was told, how how lucky are you? I worked 433 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: for everything I had? Look at you, You get it 434 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: all gifted to you. You better show up, you better shine, 435 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: you're you're you're you're a nasan the whole. No one 436 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 1: gets all this stuff handed to him. I guarantee he 437 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: lived that existence growing up. And if you knew someone 438 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: in that position, then you can sympathize with them and say, Okay, 439 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't just have a silver spoon or the golden 440 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: spoon up his you know what. He he's human and 441 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: he was dealt these cards. But he also doesn't have 442 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: real true love in his life. Now, if you ask 443 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: me money, I love. It is a no brainer. Every time, 444 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: it's love. Every time I tell people time and time again, 445 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's birthday's Christmas is whatever it may be. 446 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: Um or if I see like a big family and 447 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 1: they like make an effort to come to convention and 448 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 1: they drag someone over and you know they're crying, and 449 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: I go, you know, this is fantastic, this opportunity that 450 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 1: we're having. But you know, the greatest gift that you 451 00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: just received, there's no one that you would have loved. 452 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: You was so loved. There's the greatest gift you can 453 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: ever receive. Take it and run and carry that with 454 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: you day and day and know that you would love. 455 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,920 Speaker 1: And I don't think Tristan had as much of that 456 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,239 Speaker 1: as we would have hoped for him. And that's why 457 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: he lashed out, you know, out of insecurity, out of 458 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: hope and hoping that he wasn't going to get shut 459 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: down again. So much is expected of Hi when he 460 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: fails being the son of a man who resents you 461 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: because he had to work so hard to give you everything, 462 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: and then he resents you for it. That's the tragedy. 463 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: It's an American tragedy. And uh, it's off three. It's 464 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:56,000 Speaker 1: it's often repeated throughout the generations, and it's really unfortunate, 465 00:26:56,280 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: um um, and very very well put. And you know, 466 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,359 Speaker 1: I felt that that's what draws me to that character. 467 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: He does need love, and that's all of his actions 468 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: are reflective of that. And it's very compelling to watch. 469 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: Even in the scene with Dean, when you're being such 470 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 1: a jerk and so antagonistic with Dean, you're doing it 471 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: in such a way where you know, it's just very 472 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: It's not that it's noncommittal. It's not that you're not 473 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: that Tristan isn't committing to those actions. It's that, I 474 00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:33,399 Speaker 1: don't know, he's almost for me. It's almost like he 475 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: would rather be there's some space there with he would 476 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: rather be friends with Dean, or maybe there's a little 477 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: feels like a show, right, he's putting on a show. 478 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 1: He's totally putting on a show. None, None of this 479 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: is all real. He's putting on a show and he's 480 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 1: peacocking right as they would say. He's peacocking and hoping 481 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 1: that that win's out. Why, it's probably what he was 482 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: trained by his father time and time again. You know, 483 00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: someone walks in an office and his dad goes to fired, 484 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 1: get out of here, you're done? Oh really? Okay? Well, 485 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: you know, and he's seen that type of behavior, and 486 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: when you see that type of behavior, you will acted out. 487 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: And that again, it gets carried down from genitor generation 488 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: to generation, and you have to get to a point 489 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: where Tristan needed to get to a point where the 490 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: buck stops here. I'm not going to allow this to continue. 491 00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: And I believe that if we would have gone further 492 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: with Tristan, if that path would have been the chosen path, 493 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,159 Speaker 1: I believe that we would have found that he had 494 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: a heart of gold and that he was just damaged. 495 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: And I think that we would have we would have 496 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 1: found that he loves and he loves big, and he's hurt, 497 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 1: you know, and he would have he would have had 498 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 1: to clean on to someone, and I wonder who got 499 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: someone would have been. I feel like someone would have 500 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 1: probably become a mother figure in his life who knows who, 501 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 1: and would have nurtured him. You know what I saw 502 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: you doing as an actor, I saw you doing it, 503 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: and I appreciate it so much because it really let 504 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:03,920 Speaker 1: me know about out how Tristan really needs that love. 505 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,000 Speaker 1: As you would take little pauses every once in a 506 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: while and you'd look at her and I thought, Wow, 507 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 1: it's that. I mean, this guy is that good an 508 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: actor where that's all it takes. And then we know, 509 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: we know, we see that moment into his whole past 510 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: and his whole present about how he's treated at home 511 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: and how conflicted he is, and how much he needs 512 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: her because in his what he thinks is somewhat of 513 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: a commitment to being this jerk, he's out a little 514 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: bit out of control of it. There are those moments 515 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: where you take that pause and you look at her 516 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: and you're so wanting her and you're so near her, 517 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 1: and it's just beautiful. It's beautiful to many moments of vulnerability. Man, 518 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: there's pure vulnerability there. And I do remember reading with 519 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: Amy back in the audition and she said what she 520 00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: liked was that I do a but also the vulnerability 521 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: she needed to see that vulnerability, and I think that's 522 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: ultimately what what I wanted for me, and that's what 523 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: where the marriage came from between Chad and Tristan, was 524 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: the vulnerability to bring it to his purpose. He's he's 525 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's uh, he's right now, one of my 526 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: favorite characters. Um, And I don't think I'm going to 527 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: see him again, am I? You're gone? Yeah? No, you 528 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: know how many episodes did you? You just you did 529 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: more than this? Is it? You? That's it. I'm not 530 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,520 Speaker 1: gonna see anymore. I'm gonna watch these episodes that you're 531 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: not going to show up. I don't know. You know, 532 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 1: it's funny, you guys when you guys, it sounds like 533 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: a personal problem. Maybe you can go back and watch 534 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: the reruns. I don't think so the uh you know 535 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: they sell him on DVD. You can go back and 536 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: watch them and be right there. Sounds like a problem, 537 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: you know, the the reunion. They did the union and 538 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 1: I think the day that they had the day that 539 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 1: they picked the shoot the Tristan scene, my wife and 540 00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: I were having a baby, yeah, and we had it 541 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 1: scheduled and we couldn't reschedule because it was induced labor. 542 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:22,280 Speaker 1: They also came together also last second and boom we're 543 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: having it was like, sorry, so I heard that life 544 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: got it's a little more for me. Yeah, Hey, let's 545 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: talk about your projects. I know you got a couple. 546 00:31:31,880 --> 00:31:36,080 Speaker 1: You got a toying with the Holidays, Angel Falls Christmas, 547 00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: and you got a Bruce Willis film and you're right 548 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: on the poster with Bruce Willis called Fortress. Tell us 549 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about about these projects coming up. Man, 550 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,240 Speaker 1: that's exciting. Uh, you know, just blessed to continue to 551 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 1: work and continue to um to delve into play with 552 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: the instrument. Man. You know, you get up in the 553 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: morning and you try and like I said, you're trying 554 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: a new outfit and a new character and it just 555 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: feels so good. Uh. Fortress was a riot. You know, 556 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: he's a South Jersey boy. He grew up down the 557 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 1: street from me without tell me what it was like. 558 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 1: Working with was fantastic. Bruce is great. Bruce and I, um, 559 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: we get along really well. Uh. And you know there'd 560 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: be times where he'd take me aside and we'd have 561 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 1: like just a little personal chance, and he wouldn't He 562 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 1: just didn't do that a lot. You know. He kind 563 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: of would do his thing and then that's it. But 564 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: I felt it was incredibly gratifying knowing that I got 565 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,600 Speaker 1: to have those private moments with him, right and and 566 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: have those conversations. You know, we talked about you know, 567 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,840 Speaker 1: he's good old you know, Armageddon and die Hard and 568 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, just stories from behind the scenes and you know, 569 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: the whole at living sequence with um, you know, gippy 570 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 1: kaa mother, and we talked about just so many different 571 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: things down to you know, just human living with the 572 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: certain ricks are and UM and I borrow from everyone 573 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: that I work with, director, producer's crew. I try to 574 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: just take the best of everybody. He gave me some 575 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: things that really meant a lot to me, and and 576 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: so yeah, it was great. The characters that I play 577 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,480 Speaker 1: in this film is absolutely insane, and I think you're 578 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 1: gonna love it. So that's gonna be in theaters December 579 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: and correct correct and Angel Falls is Christmas. Angel Falls 580 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 1: Christmas is now on IMDbTV, im BBTV streaming. Wa'ts it now? 581 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: I love that film, very very very different, complete polar 582 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: opposite playing an angel and and his job in in 583 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: this life is to be basically a relationship counselor okay, 584 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: but it's a fallen Angels scenario, you know, falling for 585 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: the girl who's not supposed to what do you do? 586 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 1: So it's City of Angels meets It's Wonderful Life and 587 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,480 Speaker 1: all those great movies all kind of piled at one 588 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: another character piece. And then Toying What the Holidays comes 589 00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: up this Saturday on Lifetime December eighteenth on Lifetime, Toying 590 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: with the Holidays, check it out. And then Thursday after 591 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: your board, Um, I'm playing I played Ted Bundy and 592 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: uh oh yeah, I saw that very different film and 593 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: that comes out of Hulu on Thursday. So what's going on? Man? 594 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: You're just like, are you ever home? No, You're just 595 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: you're just filming all the time we have been. Look, 596 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: I made a decision that I was like, you know what, 597 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 1: Look and instead of saying no to everything I'm not, 598 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: start saying yes and open my mind and learn and 599 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: create relationships and just trying different avenue. And what I 600 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 1: found is I've made so many new friends, i found 601 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 1: so many new relationships, and I've been able to try 602 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 1: out so many different things as an actor. Right, some 603 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,600 Speaker 1: have been awesome, some failed miserably and that's fine. It's 604 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: completely fine with me. But I'm learning more about myself, 605 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: which is awesome. And my kids and I we live 606 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:12,839 Speaker 1: on the road. Son's been on overs, that's sick. And um, 607 00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,200 Speaker 1: you know this year we were gone all year until 608 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: I have my surgery a month ago. Now we're we 609 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 1: put a pain in it. I want time out and 610 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,320 Speaker 1: we we We picked back up January eighth, heading to 611 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,560 Speaker 1: shoot a Western So like, at you go, man, Good 612 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 1: for you, Good for you. Alright, he'll up, gotta go. 613 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: I know you're busy. You gotta get you, gotta get 614 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: out of here. We've taken up far too much of 615 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: your Time's all good at you. Gotta love you, buddy. Yeah, 616 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: I love you too. Man. It's so great catching up. 617 00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I'll get your I'll get your info 618 00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,200 Speaker 1: from from Amy and Gang and we'll connect man and 619 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: get our kids together. By the way, are you west side? 620 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,720 Speaker 1: East side? Where are you? We? We are actually closer 621 00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,839 Speaker 1: to the beach now. I sold my place. I got 622 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,680 Speaker 1: out of l a proper. Well. Yeah, I've been there 623 00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: a long time, you know, I've been there eighteen years, 624 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: nineteen years in that house. So it was time. It 625 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 1: was time so we're You know, my wife likes the 626 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 1: the ocean, she likes the beach, and uh, I think 627 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,719 Speaker 1: my wife, we're probably in the same neighborhood that money. 628 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: We could be. We'll talk down the road, yes we will. 629 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: All right. Such a pleasure, man, great catching up and 630 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: good luck with everything. Best is Sarah? Okay, tell her 631 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 1: I said, hold on all right, will I will see 632 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: my left everybody? God left you all right? You too? Man? 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