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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys As now here are Bill Jones,
Speaker 1: Savannah Humoler, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.
Speaker 3: And on this Monday after Super Bowl Sunday, I've got
Speaker 3: four words for you to kickoff mix shots. Those four
Speaker 3: words in spags, we trust very good that yes, Welcome
Speaker 3: to a post super Bowl edition of mix Shots featuring
Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola, the long lost cousin of the Kasas City chiefs.
Speaker 4: Us still trying to find each other. He's still lost.
Speaker 5: We we always knew that, right in spags, we.
Speaker 4: Trust, Okay, I thought you.
Speaker 6: We always knew that the defense is going to play
Speaker 6: well for Kansas City.
Speaker 4: I didn't know about all of that.
Speaker 3: How's everybody doing? Let's check the microphones here ever soon?
Speaker 3: How are you doing?
Speaker 4: Check? Check one? Two checking?
Speaker 3: Savannah? How are you doing?
Speaker 5: Oh, we're great, it sounds great.
Speaker 3: How about Mickey? How are you doing? There?
Speaker 4: He goes there, he goes there, he goes jeez.
Speaker 5: We trust.
Speaker 3: It comes to here. I set you up and be
Speaker 3: here to check everything right? All right, what y'all think?
Speaker 7: Amazing? Crazy game? Crazy game.
Speaker 5: I think we learned that defense matters?
Speaker 4: Does it does?
Speaker 3: Does defense wins championships?
Speaker 4: Spags?
Speaker 5: It did it?
Speaker 3: This one man, Mickey has long been a proponent of
Speaker 3: scarring points wins championships. They scored more points.
Speaker 5: You're right, and it took overtime, it did. Did everybody
Speaker 5: know the overtime role?
Speaker 4: I did? I did?
Speaker 6: We in the family, we were going over it, okay,
Speaker 6: making sure we.
Speaker 3: I don't know that and it was CBS, so I'm
Speaker 3: sure that they did a great job of explaining it.
Speaker 3: And I know they went over it at the beginning.
Speaker 3: I don't know that they went over it enough.
Speaker 4: I don't know they went with the team. The teams
Speaker 4: didn't even know.
Speaker 5: San Francisco didn't know some of their players.
Speaker 7: Had But how how do you how do you allow that? Like,
Speaker 7: shouldn't that be.
Speaker 5: Chris Jones that for two weeks leading up to the
Speaker 5: Super Bowl that they talked about it daily with the chiefs.
Speaker 5: Ok Mahomes said to the point, I was tired of
Speaker 5: hearing it. And they talked to change the rules on
Speaker 5: overtime last year.
Speaker 4: But they changed the rules because of the Kansas City game, right.
Speaker 8: Not.
Speaker 5: What they didn't explain though, and I had to remind myself,
Speaker 5: is if it had been tied after the first possessions
Speaker 5: in overtime, like each got their team and each kicked
Speaker 5: a field goal, then it's sudden death. They never pointed
Speaker 5: that out on the broadcast, that that was part of it.
Speaker 3: What else would it be, well that.
Speaker 5: We get each get another possession.
Speaker 3: I mean, it never dawned on me that it would
Speaker 3: be continuous.
Speaker 7: They would make a double.
Speaker 3: On endlessly where trades possessions.
Speaker 5: Especially since the overtime periods that would have expired. Then yeah,
Speaker 5: you just keep playing.
Speaker 3: Chris Beam, producer Supreme wants to chime in, how are
Speaker 3: you doing.
Speaker 2: I'm doing really well because I was kind of interested
Speaker 2: about the overtime rules too. And on the way home,
Speaker 2: I was listening to the radio and they had the
Speaker 2: Fox analyst, the guy that no no catch, no catch guy,
Speaker 2: the former official.
Speaker 4: Okay, was it Mike or something? No, whatever, the.
Speaker 3: Fox guy, I know who you're talking about.
Speaker 2: So he said that they weren't worried about the clock
Speaker 2: because it was like that was the first quarter of overtime.
Speaker 5: They were just moved in the other end.
Speaker 2: Right, right, So I mean it was like because there
Speaker 2: was three seconds left right when they took that last snap.
Speaker 5: Actually they yeah.
Speaker 3: It finished it three seconds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it was like ten seconds left.
Speaker 2: So that's why that's why they were not worried about
Speaker 2: because the game was not that it wasn't going to
Speaker 2: end r right.
Speaker 5: And and you know what Maurice Jones drew on NFL
Speaker 5: Network afterward, was asking the Holmes, Well, Kley, you ran
Speaker 5: the clock down to three seconds where you were and
Speaker 5: it's like, well, no.
Speaker 3: Because there's just going to go the other Well, there
Speaker 3: was a it was like a split second difference between
Speaker 3: the play clock and the game clock and it and
Speaker 3: I believe the play clock was behind it. They had
Speaker 3: to run a play. They weren't going to be a right,
Speaker 3: They couldn't because they would have taken that option probably.
Speaker 5: And I think Rumbo pointed that out that there was
Speaker 5: you know, need, no need to worry. You would have
Speaker 5: just changed right.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is you had to run a
Speaker 3: play because there was a difference between the play clock
Speaker 3: and the game clock, just a split second difference there.
Speaker 4: So if we go into the.
Speaker 6: Over time, we use up all of overtime, right, and
Speaker 6: it's still tied, so then the sudden death right right, right,
Speaker 6: right right.
Speaker 5: And you know what Chris Jones said, I was reading
Speaker 5: an interview with.
Speaker 3: Him, my cousin, Chris Jones.
Speaker 5: Yes, game right. I didn't see any humolers. He said
Speaker 5: that had had San Francisco scored a touchdown, and then
Speaker 5: if we had come down and score a touchdown, we
Speaker 5: had already talked about going for two to end the game.
Speaker 5: How about that? Now that would attach to that would
Speaker 5: have taken some I know about. Yeah, now, it's one
Speaker 5: thing to talk about.
Speaker 7: That was the case.
Speaker 4: I think about it. I can really.
Speaker 3: But if you know, if you're San Francisco though, and
Speaker 3: that's even more of a reason. It's even more of
Speaker 3: a reason why. And you have to if you have
Speaker 3: the option, you have to have the ball last. With
Speaker 3: these yes now and the old overtime rules, if you
Speaker 3: can score a touchdown, you can end the game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: take the ball from okay, but these rules it's like baseball. Baseball,
Speaker 3: the home team has an advantage because they bat last,
Speaker 3: and so you want to bat last in this game now,
Speaker 3: and then in that case with San Francisco. Since Patrick
Speaker 3: Holmes is the quarterback on the other side, I take
Speaker 3: the ball second, score my touchdown, and I would seriously
Speaker 3: consider going for two because I don't want Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: to have the football.
Speaker 6: The difference right there depends on the quarterback, right, Well,
Speaker 6: it depends on to me, only one quarterback and it
Speaker 6: is Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 5: Well, but still, why did they take the ball they
Speaker 5: won the toss.
Speaker 3: He said, because he wanted the ball. Third, he said
Speaker 3: he wanted he wanted.
Speaker 5: Was tied after Kyle.
Speaker 3: Sheahan said he wanted the ball third, He wanted it
Speaker 3: when it went to sudden death, and that's why he
Speaker 3: took the ball first.
Speaker 5: So interesting. But see what happens though, is if you
Speaker 5: if you take the ball second, then you got four downs, right,
Speaker 5: you can go. You gotta go for it, right when
Speaker 5: when you take it first, you're not going to gamble
Speaker 5: on fourth down. You're gonna kick the field goal. That's
Speaker 5: the difference, right. You want to know what you got
Speaker 5: to do.
Speaker 3: I'm sure he knew because because you can't in that situation,
Speaker 3: San Francisco is down there. Yes, they could have gone
Speaker 3: for for the first down and not kicked the field
Speaker 3: goal if they wanted to, because Paprick Mahomes is on
Speaker 3: the other side. But if you don't make it, now
Speaker 3: all they need is to drive half the field on
Speaker 3: you and kick a field goal and win the game. Well,
Speaker 3: I could see made a Super Bowl record fifty seven
Speaker 3: yard or in nine straightness about that.
Speaker 5: Wow, a record fifty five and then a record fifty seven.
Speaker 6: That could have Really it looked like it was crossed
Speaker 6: the goalposts of the uprights still going you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. It wasn't like it much. Yeah, it looked
Speaker 6: like you could have gone with sixty five on that one.
Speaker 5: But it wasn't very high.
Speaker 4: Well, they got tested, didn't it.
Speaker 3: They're talking about the fifty seven.
Speaker 5: Yard fifty seven the low one low No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: that was the Yeah, the low projectory.
Speaker 4: I thought that that one was touched.
Speaker 5: I don't think so, because it it it had a
Speaker 5: lot of steam on it.
Speaker 6: You didn't think that that it was touched. I saw
Speaker 6: you saw two hands going up. I remember that.
Speaker 5: No, that was the extra point that got blocked.
Speaker 4: No, I'm not talking about that.
Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're yeah, but it went right past the guys
Speaker 5: past it.
Speaker 4: I thought maybe it actually touched. No, I don't think so.
Speaker 5: It almost got blocked.
Speaker 4: That's I'm talking so low.
Speaker 5: But it was good. So I can understand now had
Speaker 5: they scored uh, each team scored a touchdown, and if
Speaker 5: Kansas City had the ball last, it was almost like
Speaker 5: the two point conversion was like a possession mm hmm,
Speaker 5: because then if you just tie it, then they can
Speaker 5: go down and win sudden death, right, But it would
Speaker 5: have taken a lot of nerves.
Speaker 3: Was there any point besides the mentions of Steve Spagnola?
Speaker 3: Was there any point ever since in this game where
Speaker 3: you thought of Key Spagnola? When they showed a shot
Speaker 3: on the field of something that happened on the field,
Speaker 3: and very obscure thing that happened, it was amazing that
Speaker 3: they had video of it.
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 3: When Dre green log runs on the field and tears
Speaker 3: his achilles, did you think of Mickey Spagnola? Did because
Speaker 3: I did?
Speaker 5: Well, you know what, figure it out?
Speaker 6: Initially turned when I saw when I saw they we
Speaker 6: ran it back at the house, and I said that's
Speaker 6: an achilles.
Speaker 5: Immediately, I immediately said.
Speaker 7: It had to be something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, But it wasn't a mystic.
Speaker 5: I knew, I knew, and then when he when he.
Speaker 3: I wanted to go ahead and get it the way
Speaker 3: because otherwise the whole segment on Micky talking about his
Speaker 3: Achilles experience, I mean, all you had.
Speaker 5: To do is see what happened.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, he came out. It's almost like he was
Speaker 4: in the sprint coming out, but.
Speaker 6: They were so excited to get down bouncing, and he
Speaker 6: took off and I didn't see a knee doing anything.
Speaker 4: Now I was looking for something weird.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and when I finally, for some reason, I didn't
Speaker 6: think about you. I think I was just so amazed
Speaker 6: that that it happened.
Speaker 5: That's how the injury occurred.
Speaker 6: But yeah, damn, it's crazy man. And then next thing
Speaker 6: you know, Marandy Gregory's out there playing ball.
Speaker 3: But Dray green Law that was a big gloss for
Speaker 3: San Francisco. He only played twelve snaps in the game
Speaker 3: that I think Kenja City had seventy something snaps.
Speaker 4: I thought his replacement did well. I did. I thought
Speaker 4: they did well.
Speaker 6: I don't know what a difference, how much more he
Speaker 6: could have done, but he was still out there making
Speaker 6: some play.
Speaker 3: You know, there could have been I'm sure there were
Speaker 3: plays in the game where they were trying to take
Speaker 3: advantage of the backup then on the field.
Speaker 4: They did well. He did well, but did well.
Speaker 5: Kansas City had to play their backup defensive tackle too,
Speaker 5: and a backup offensive guard, so Randy Gregory played how
Speaker 5: many snaps here? By the way, Warner is pretty good,
Speaker 5: but boy, they got him in coverage and beat him.
Speaker 6: So you have to challenge people, right, don't don't let
Speaker 6: me just go on reputation.
Speaker 4: I don't think that's well.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's tough when you got to do it.
Speaker 3: They beat him at the end of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I think because I think he played well. I
Speaker 3: mean Kelsey at the first half of the game and
Speaker 3: what one catch for yard or something like that.
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I myself don't consider as
Speaker 3: much as I should is how a player wears down
Speaker 3: during the course of a game. And Fred Warner is
Speaker 3: not the same cover linebacker in the fourth quarter with
Speaker 3: thirty seconds left in the game that he was in
Speaker 3: the first quarter, within the third seconds.
Speaker 6: That's why you have to go from you have to
Speaker 6: use this more later in the game as opposed to
Speaker 6: looking at your physical So he looked will wear down
Speaker 6: and you have to anticipate.
Speaker 3: He lets the game go born out at the end
Speaker 3: of the game. Tried to chase Kelsey on the cross
Speaker 3: crossing route on the big play that got him down.
Speaker 4: He didn't pay them line.
Speaker 5: Well, and the other one that was trying to cover
Speaker 5: him was Burks and he forty eight.
Speaker 3: And he well there's there's the difference. Birks was on
Speaker 3: the field for fifty nine plays for green lawm got
Speaker 3: hurt twelve plays.
Speaker 5: So Gregory played twenty seven snaps and had one tackle.
Speaker 5: I had almost forgotten he got traded.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy. I saw him out there, looked
Speaker 4: good in his uniform.
Speaker 3: Well, that's been his role throughout his career really, you know,
Speaker 3: as a situational pass rusher. So and now he's got a.
Speaker 5: Ring and he's got a ring.
Speaker 4: NF now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, NFC champion.
Speaker 4: That's not how they.
Speaker 9: Okay, So for each of you guys, who was the
Speaker 9: different and smaker on.
Speaker 7: Okay, Patrick Mahon.
Speaker 3: You know what what I'll say is mahomes feet the
Speaker 3: difference making and they always those couple always are nine
Speaker 3: carries for sixty six yards in the game.
Speaker 6: When when what was the year when he broken his
Speaker 6: leg or whatever. He was running his butt off that night,
Speaker 6: so he always does. He knows just when to.
Speaker 4: Use his feet.
Speaker 6: I would have to go with I don't know who defensively,
Speaker 6: but I just I was always impressed. I'll go with Spagnola.
Speaker 6: I mean, I always thought that he made the difference
Speaker 6: this year for the Kansasty Chiefs. While Mahomes and his
Speaker 6: receivers were trying to get it together, the defense was
Speaker 6: holding on. And I said, before this game, you take
Speaker 6: Patrick Mahomes with a defense, which is what I thought
Speaker 6: they had this year. I didn't think they were going
Speaker 6: to lose. I never thought they would lose.
Speaker 5: I didn't think. And I watched pregame from ten o'clock
Speaker 5: in the morning on. They didn't talk enough about Kansas
Speaker 5: City's defense. They gave it lip service. And I said, well,
Speaker 5: what did they finish well? They finished number two in
Speaker 5: total yards, and they finished number two in points against.
Speaker 5: And then I went and looked it up. Four of
Speaker 5: their six regular season losses twenty one, twenty twenty one, seventeen,
Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, and twenty fourteen, So they lost four games
Speaker 5: by a total of fourteen points. Not bad.
Speaker 4: That's what I saw all, you know, So they were close.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, everybody made so much about
Speaker 5: the opener. Okay, Detroit beat them twenty one to twenty,
Speaker 5: but they were close. And in the postseason, so they
Speaker 5: averaged giving up seventeen point three during the regular season
Speaker 5: and in the postseason four games they gave up fifteen
Speaker 5: point seven five fifteen point five.
Speaker 6: Uh and would have and no one when it's all
Speaker 6: said and done, we always just say, Mahomes right, but
Speaker 6: I gotta put your boy in there. I have to
Speaker 6: put in Specnola because he is He has kept them
Speaker 6: in range all year long.
Speaker 3: And specifically in key situations bringing the blitz yes or
Speaker 3: the third down and in fact that won the game
Speaker 3: timely blitzes. Yeah, I mean the the receivers opened on
Speaker 3: the right in the right flat on the last offensive
Speaker 3: snap that San Francisco turned out had in this game,
Speaker 3: but Party couldn't make the throw because it.
Speaker 4: Was on There was one where they tried to sneak
Speaker 4: on up the seams.
Speaker 6: The guy was opening the end zone, but the throat
Speaker 6: had to be made under dress. So now I was
Speaker 6: very impressed with their entire scheme, just the way that
Speaker 6: they just it's not just the third down plays, it's
Speaker 6: the second down plays. Well, okay, it's second and ten
Speaker 6: if they if our guys wif you think a guy's
Speaker 6: going to be open for and make it a third
Speaker 6: and two. But no, no, the blitz came next thing.
Speaker 6: You know, they get no gain on that play and
Speaker 6: that's not looking at third and ten. So they kept
Speaker 6: them in bad situations. They kept them behind the chains.
Speaker 5: Which is not what they did in the first half
Speaker 5: because they didn't. He had all day in the pocket, right.
Speaker 4: But they hard.
Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, they got closer and closer coming after you.
Speaker 3: The other part of that is now he's been there
Speaker 3: for five years, Shanny, I mean spegnola As and he
Speaker 3: has his players that he wants out there. He was
Speaker 3: talking about through the week that he loves coaching this
Speaker 3: defense more than any other defense he's coached in his
Speaker 3: career because how smart the players are. And I said,
Speaker 3: it all goes through your Missouri guy. That's Bolton and
Speaker 3: middle linebacker out of Frisco, lone star high school, an
Speaker 3: academic All American Missouri. Granted it was at Missouri and
Speaker 3: he had me academic.
Speaker 5: Incredible. We want to bring up academics in Oklahoma, by.
Speaker 3: The way, But but smart players, and that's something Kansas
Speaker 3: City has to do because of their salary cap situation
Speaker 3: and it relates to the Cowboy situation here is you
Speaker 3: better get players on the field that are coachable, that
Speaker 3: are smart players, that have an understanding of what you're
Speaker 3: trying to do defensively, because.
Speaker 6: I couldn't I couldn't name but maybe three players on
Speaker 6: their defense.
Speaker 5: Well, their corners really, that's all I could probably name.
Speaker 5: Their corners were really good and they're I think both
Speaker 5: maybe securious.
Speaker 3: Need is.
Speaker 4: To do with secondary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Trent McDuffie is he covers guy in the
Speaker 3: slot more than anything. And uh he was the first
Speaker 3: round draft pick out of Washington. So what do you
Speaker 3: think about the Justin Reid the Sanford You think they should.
Speaker 6: Have called that called the personal file when the sneed
Speaker 6: he slapped him in it was depot. I can't remember
Speaker 6: who he was, but the guy was was grabbing on
Speaker 6: his jersey, right, he pushed him aside.
Speaker 5: The missed right.
Speaker 4: I know. They didn't even hit him hard.
Speaker 3: It was just like you know, one thing on that
Speaker 3: is they didn't have to when they slow it down
Speaker 3: on replay, you can't see how hard he hit him, really,
Speaker 3: you know, and so it didn't see. It didn't see
Speaker 3: when you slow it down, it's like that. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: maybe it was like that, right.
Speaker 6: It was quickness, but there was no no heavy impact.
Speaker 6: I thought that was just hey, guys, make it up.
Speaker 4: Yeah right.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the deal in the San Francisco
Speaker 3: Green Bay game or Detroit game when Trent Williams on
Speaker 3: the sideline. It was basically I think it was. It
Speaker 3: may have been a penalty on both teams which was offset,
Speaker 3: which is what that would be off the sideline.
Speaker 5: If that was the NBA, the guy would have fell
Speaker 5: down exactly. Or World Cup soccer, by the way, and
Speaker 5: by the way, I was grid. The officials set the
Speaker 5: tone on that first drive and let Trent Williams get
Speaker 5: away with all his bs, false start and then a hold.
Speaker 3: So did you answer Savannah's question, Oh, I didn't use
Speaker 3: your guy.
Speaker 7: Who's your standout.
Speaker 4: SPA?
Speaker 5: I would I mean I would have said Macomes. But
Speaker 5: here's an interesting one pregame.
Speaker 6: No, defensively, she said, you need someone different making pregame.
Speaker 5: How about this one pregame on NFL Network, They went
Speaker 5: around the horn to pick their m v P. And
Speaker 5: he took Holy hell for this. Michael Irvin, Juwan Jennings interesting,
Speaker 5: and they're going what and you know what he was
Speaker 5: thinking is the corners were going to take out the
Speaker 5: top two receivers and Jennings was going to get the
Speaker 5: third guy. And he was going to go crazy.
Speaker 3: He thought, Alvin Harper is going to have a big game. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the guy throws another Tennessee guy.
Speaker 5: By the way, he would have been.
Speaker 4: The MVP if they wanted to get right, he would
Speaker 4: have been the MVP.
Speaker 3: Who was a high school quarterback.
Speaker 5: He was very good.
Speaker 3: As soon as he threw the pass, I said, I
Speaker 3: bet he was a high school courter.
Speaker 4: And that was the worst play for a touchdown I
Speaker 4: think I've ever seen.
Speaker 5: I mean, how did the ball not get intercepted?
Speaker 3: Going back's design?
Speaker 6: So you got two guys out there, they're filling around
Speaker 6: trying to get off a block.
Speaker 4: The ball is not even thrown yet you still can't
Speaker 4: get off the block. It was just it was just crazy.
Speaker 3: And then Bolton the academic All America, that's right, Surrey,
Speaker 3: he guessed outside. McCaffrey was going to run outside and
Speaker 3: he took off inside.
Speaker 4: Well, he did his job. He made him which was
Speaker 4: what job. He did his job.
Speaker 3: He captured the edge.
Speaker 4: Guys.
Speaker 5: And if you listened to the halftime analysis, they were
Speaker 5: acting like Kansas City was way out of the game.
Speaker 5: It's ten to three and it took a freak play
Speaker 5: to get to ten. Oh, double digit they got to
Speaker 5: come back from double digit? Well it was ten to nothing. Yeah,
Speaker 5: you score once, it's not double digit.
Speaker 3: And I was amazed that double digits are is what
Speaker 3: the Cowboys fall behind, right, and it was nothing. It
Speaker 3: wasn't twenty one to we know about what double digit definite? Okay,
Speaker 3: don't tell us about double digit deficits.
Speaker 5: Both the backs at halftime ended up with the same
Speaker 5: amount of passing yards one three to one twenty three.
Speaker 3: Ohen, did you know that Patrick mahomes three hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty three yards is the same as the address of
Speaker 3: the Yes?
Speaker 6: Yes, so what do we make of that?
Speaker 5: Hair was the best thing that was said after the game?
Speaker 4: What even said?
Speaker 3: It was thirty three? Thirty three?
Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't thirty three. Right after the game. Uh,
Speaker 5: they were in one of the stations, was enter any
Speaker 5: interviewing Andy Reid and his wife was up there with
Speaker 5: him and they were talking about her being, you know,
Speaker 5: the MVP of the family or whatever, and Andy Reid ghosts,
Speaker 5: I don't know. She had five kids and it ruined
Speaker 5: my body.
Speaker 4: That's funny. I like that. He's a jokes to Yeah,
Speaker 4: you hear me go.
Speaker 7: By the way, it's like a dry since.
Speaker 5: Bill brought it up. Former University Missouri offensive line coach too.
Speaker 3: By the way, that's right, that's right, way back when
Speaker 3: you were back, even after you were in school. You're
Speaker 3: going to go that far back.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 3: All right. As we go to break, I've got a
Speaker 3: trivia question. It relates to the Juwan Jennings touchdown pass. Okay,
Speaker 3: let me find the question before I.
Speaker 10: Who was the highest who was the highest rated high
Speaker 10: school quarterback recruit who played in the Super Bowl yesterday?
Speaker 10: Who was the highest rated high school quarterback recruit who
Speaker 10: played in the Super Bowl yesterday? That answer when we
Speaker 10: come back here on mix shots.
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Speaker 3: Okay, before we get away from it, the trivia question
Speaker 3: was who was the highest rated high school quarterback recruit
Speaker 3: playing in the Super Bowl yesterday?
Speaker 4: All right, what position does he play? Now?
Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you that him.
Speaker 7: I asked Bell what team? And he won't give me that.
Speaker 3: She asked what team? I said, either Kansas City or
Speaker 3: San Francisco. Here's another hint. He's a former cowboy. He's
Speaker 3: a former cowboy, Randy Gregor, former cal It's not Ward,
Speaker 3: It's not Randy Gregory. It's not Jake Brindle the center
Speaker 3: for the San Francisco forty nine ers, who was a
Speaker 3: college free agent. Here it is tight end for Kansas City.
Speaker 3: Blake Bell, the Bell Dozer, who is the number He
Speaker 3: was the number one rated to talk about that. He
Speaker 3: had ten snaps in the game and he had a
Speaker 3: huge block on one of the key runs at the
Speaker 3: end of the game. He was a number one rated
Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback out of Wichita, Kansas in twenty ten.
Speaker 3: Blaine Gabbert, the former Missouri Tiger, was the number two
Speaker 3: pro style quarterback recruit in two thousand and eight. Okay,
Speaker 3: so he is the second highest rated. The third highest
Speaker 3: rated quarterback coming out of high school in yesterday's game
Speaker 3: was Sam Darnold, number five overall or number five quarterback
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen. Juwan Jennings was the fourth highest rated quarterback,
Speaker 3: number seven in twenty fifteen. Did you take the Brandon
Speaker 3: Pallen San Francisco Thirdeam San Francisco Third Team quarterback Brandon
Speaker 3: Allen out of Arkansas was the number eight high school
Speaker 3: quarterback recruit in twenty eleven. Finally we get to one, two, three,
Speaker 3: four five the sixth highest rated quarterback coming out of
Speaker 3: high school that played in the game yesterday. Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: was number twenty two in twenty fourteen, and the number
Speaker 3: seven was Brock Purdy, who was number thirty six among
Speaker 3: quarterbacks coming out in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 5: Did that make Bill Jones sports special last night?
Speaker 3: It did not?
Speaker 5: Which, by the way, what time did you to deliver
Speaker 5: that today?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 5: What did you get on?
Speaker 3: I got on? I got out at eleven forty five okay,
Speaker 3: forty five out? And I looked up this trivia question
Speaker 3: about one fifteen in the morning before I went to bed.
Speaker 5: My guest was going to be. It was a running quarterback,
Speaker 5: Deebo Samuel Well.
Speaker 3: I haven't looked him up. Maybe he would, I think. Okay, anyway,
Speaker 3: there you go, and there's a cowboy connection there, Blake
Speaker 3: Bell who was spent one year, one year tight end
Speaker 3: here and then he got back to Kansas City and
Speaker 3: started winning more Super.
Speaker 5: Bowl fast as he could.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Uh, and.
Speaker 4: You enjoyed the kicking. You enjoyed the kicking game yesterday.
Speaker 4: The kicking game, just the kicking game on. The kickers
Speaker 4: were good.
Speaker 5: The kickers were very good.
Speaker 9: Coverage team was good to special teams except for Moody
Speaker 9: missing the first extra point of his career.
Speaker 4: Is that crazy?
Speaker 6: I mean, come on, it gets blocked, that's all that's well.
Speaker 4: I think it was kind of low.
Speaker 3: It was low, but it was a high snap, as
Speaker 3: Jay Feely pointed out on the CBS broadcast.
Speaker 5: But yeah, that he blamed it on the kicker fifty seven.
Speaker 3: Ye, Pey did well because of the high snap. So
Speaker 3: I guess you're blaming it on them snaps.
Speaker 5: What Steve Hoffman taught me, if the ball comes back
Speaker 5: and it's flat on the ground, the kicker when the
Speaker 5: extra point was close, you got to make it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just no elevated quickly. Yeah. Do you want to
Speaker 3: do a little update on what's going on here with
Speaker 3: the Cowboys? And back on Thursday night, it appeared that
Speaker 3: it was eminent that new defensive coordinator was going to
Speaker 3: be named shortly, and here we are Monday morning and
Speaker 3: one hasn't been named. Now, I know the NFL teams
Speaker 3: are basically told by the league. Let's focus on the
Speaker 3: super Bowl, and so there's not going to be a
Speaker 3: press release, but work. Can you tell us it stands
Speaker 3: with Mike Zimmer as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 5: The last thing I heard was that the contract had
Speaker 5: not been completed. They needed to cross the t's and
Speaker 5: dot the i's, and as of this morning was still
Speaker 5: haven't got official word that he's been named the defensive coordinator,
Speaker 5: which I highly endorsed on Wednesday in mix shots. So
Speaker 5: did Darren Woodson, by the way, who once again once
Speaker 5: again does not make before we get I don't want
Speaker 5: to get in the down with this.
Speaker 4: Yeah we are, though this one.
Speaker 5: Zim seemed to be the natural choice to me and
Speaker 5: I and I think I said it last week, the
Speaker 5: natural everybody's and ever since you made me think about
Speaker 5: it when you said, well, don't they have a young
Speaker 5: guy up and coming to promote? And my thought on
Speaker 5: that is, if there's an up and young guy coming
Speaker 5: and he's got a secure job, is he going to
Speaker 5: come somewhere where it's a one year contract on the
Speaker 5: head coach where somebody else he may be working for
Speaker 5: somebody that's got three four years. Same thing with Joe Witt,
Speaker 5: he goes with Dan Quinn to Washington. Well, Dan's got
Speaker 5: to have at least a five year deal. He stays here,
Speaker 5: it's a one year deal for sure, so a.
Speaker 7: Lot more job security.
Speaker 5: So I always thought it would be somebody that probably
Speaker 5: was out of work. Uh, and that's why Ron Rivera
Speaker 5: was in on it. The other thing that occurred to
Speaker 5: me is if you if you hire Zim, which is
Speaker 5: still a possibility, can you bring in another guy as
Speaker 5: the defensive consultant, sort of like they did with George Edwards.
Speaker 5: I don't know if that'll happen, but but now they
Speaker 5: lose Aiden Dirty to Seattle as the defensive coordinator. Joe
Speaker 5: went to Washington as the defensive coordinator.
Speaker 4: What's going on with him?
Speaker 5: He's still here and I think, you know, he's a
Speaker 5: guy that they need.
Speaker 3: To hang on to him.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I don't know if he would get the
Speaker 5: job as coordinator ordinator, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Which puts you in position, a greater position to be
Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator right now.
Speaker 5: The other thing.
Speaker 4: Seems he's earned that.
Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. And Joe Witt's title was secondary coach past
Speaker 5: game cortern. Al Harris's title was defensive back coach.
Speaker 4: So that's pretty simple. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cut, and.
Speaker 5: We'll see what what happens there. They also lost Sharif Floyd,
Speaker 5: who was a defensive young defensive assistant. I think it
Speaker 5: was just this first year. I think Quinn brought him
Speaker 5: to Washington with him. So those guys were able to
Speaker 5: get a promotion. Now what occurred to me. You remember
Speaker 5: how San Francisco took advantage of this having people promoted
Speaker 5: to head coach and you get an extra draft pick,
Speaker 5: you get a couple. Actually, yeah, they got it. They
Speaker 5: got fun right well around the league, do you get
Speaker 5: something when one of your guys gets elevated in to.
Speaker 3: A coordinators My understanding is no, it's.
Speaker 5: Got a head coach manager.
Speaker 3: Yes, okay, because I look that up because I was
Speaker 3: I thought the same thing. Uh, but it's head coach
Speaker 3: or defensive coordinator. He actually get two picks of the
Speaker 3: third rounder this year in the next year for a
Speaker 3: head coach.
Speaker 5: For a head coach. Yeah, okay, so that's kind of
Speaker 5: where they at on the coaching staff. Uh so they're
Speaker 5: going to have to find a defensive line coach uh
Speaker 5: and another secondary coach and uh.
Speaker 3: Rex Ryan on ESPN yesterday, he certainly made it sound like.
Speaker 3: In fact, he flat out said that it's my understanding
Speaker 3: that Mike Zimmer doesn't have that job so far. I
Speaker 3: mean they he uh, he did say that. He went
Speaker 3: on to say that he thinks that this Cowboys team,
Speaker 3: you know, he's been out of work for seven years whatever,
Speaker 3: and there's jobs he could have taken, whatever, but he
Speaker 3: wasn't going to go unless he had a chance to
Speaker 3: win a super Bowl. And he thinks that this Cowboys team,
Speaker 3: this defense is just to tick away from getting over
Speaker 3: the hump. And he personally called Mike McCarthy and he
Speaker 3: said that I want to be your guy, and because
Speaker 3: and he was touting the defense and where it is
Speaker 3: right now and how he thinks that he can do
Speaker 3: some things to put.
Speaker 4: It over the top.
Speaker 3: And so anyway, that's and apparently the people here in
Speaker 3: Dallas liked what they heard from Rex Ryan.
Speaker 4: But I just.
Speaker 5: From a personality standpoint, I think Zim fits better with
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy. And McCarthy probably has he knows Zim just
Speaker 5: from competing against him in.
Speaker 3: Twice a year, the number of years.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And and the Cowboys know Zim and he's pretty
Speaker 5: good at what he does as a defensive coordinator. By
Speaker 5: the way, I just think that that just seems natural
Speaker 5: to me if they can get the contract worked out,
Speaker 5: and he you know.
Speaker 3: You would think that the reason you don't get the
Speaker 3: contract worked out. I mean that was Thursday night that Jerry,
Speaker 3: and so you have your attorneys looking at it whatever.
Speaker 3: And so this is the start of the work week
Speaker 3: on Monday. Now if it stretches a couple more days,
Speaker 3: then okay, then maybe there's an issue.
Speaker 5: And he wasn't totally out of work for two years.
Speaker 5: He did work as a He worked with the defensive
Speaker 5: analyst or consulting at Jackson State for one year and
Speaker 5: then Dion brought him into Colorado to talk to the team.
Speaker 6: Both he and both he and Dion's favorite person is
Speaker 6: Dennis that's right. He was a Rex loved Dennis Derman
Speaker 6: when he was coaching.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about Rex Ryan, all right?
Speaker 4: Sorry?
Speaker 3: Right, And Dennis Thurman was the defensive coordinator for Rex
Speaker 3: Ryan at Buffalo And in fact, Stephan Gilmore says that
Speaker 3: he credits Dennis Thurman with turning around or getting his
Speaker 3: career jump started a couple of years into it, and
Speaker 3: he went on and became the NFL Defensive Player of the.
Speaker 6: Year, and he coached for Dion as well at Colorado.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and give me the book here. I
Speaker 5: just want to remind myself. So Bill Parsals gets and
Speaker 5: well he should all that credit for the Cowboys turning
Speaker 5: around in twenty thousand and three five.
Speaker 3: I mean going to a three four defense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he in two thousand and three they got
Speaker 5: in the playoffs, right, And if I remember correctly, in
Speaker 5: two thousand and three, the Cowboys defense was ranked number
Speaker 5: one under Mike Zimmer, so that one always got lost.
Speaker 5: And when they were really bad in two thousand they were.
Speaker 5: They were nineteenth, fourth, eighteenth, and then first, and those
Speaker 5: first three teams were five and eleven. But they were
Speaker 5: playing pretty well defensively. So Zim is pretty good at
Speaker 5: what he does, and he's pretty aggressive, and he won't
Speaker 5: take any s from anybody, including Michaeh. Parsons.
Speaker 3: Did We're going to get to the Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: voting here in the next segment, but as we wrap
Speaker 3: up this one, did you happen to see what Jordan
Speaker 3: Love said on Michael Parsons podcast?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 7: What did he say?
Speaker 3: Micah, it is very interesting. It's great. I mean, here
Speaker 3: we are just a couple of weeks after three weeks
Speaker 3: after the Packers beat the count Boys, and here you
Speaker 3: got the quarterback and the edge rusher of the star
Speaker 3: player and Cowboys talking with each other about that game,
Speaker 3: and Mike is asking Jordan Lowe, Okay, so tell me
Speaker 3: what what did you see? How what did you do?
Speaker 3: What was your strategy against us? What did you see whatever?
Speaker 3: And he said, you know, we're looking at your defense,
Speaker 3: and we knew we needed to run the ball. And
Speaker 3: I mean, we we had success before when he wasn't
Speaker 3: the quarterback Rogers was we had success the year before,
Speaker 3: able to establish the run. And then he said, and
Speaker 3: you know, not to start anything up, but you know
Speaker 3: we're looking at that defense and you're you're playing dB
Speaker 3: at linebacker.
Speaker 5: Well that was that was no.
Speaker 3: Secret, no secret. It was interesting that what we've been seeing,
Speaker 3: we've been seeing the last half of the year. I mean,
Speaker 3: it was so obvious.
Speaker 6: That I saw, we can't find the linebacker nowhere, nowhere,
Speaker 6: out there in the universe.
Speaker 5: Up he was getting double teamed at defensive end. Should
Speaker 5: have been.
Speaker 3: So anyway, I thought that was very interesting.
Speaker 5: It's very interesting.
Speaker 3: So and you can find it out there somewhere, all right.
Speaker 3: When we come back. We got much more to get to,
Speaker 3: including the Hall of Fame voting last week.
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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. Alex Smith was talking about
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes when he came into the league and credit
Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes last night, crediting Alex Smith for their success
Speaker 3: and his success because he was able to sit behind
Speaker 3: him and he was just drafted into a culture of
Speaker 3: winning and he then took that and you know that
Speaker 3: set the tone for his career. But Alex Smith was
Speaker 3: talking about Patrick Mahomes and he said, yeah, when he
Speaker 3: came here, you know, he's a good kid, and you
Speaker 3: know he had good study habits, but he played video
Speaker 3: games way too much, and so I think he had
Speaker 3: the video games he got that out of his Maybe
Speaker 3: Alex Smith had that effect on Patrick as a college
Speaker 3: kid coming I remember myself. I mean they didn't have
Speaker 3: video games back in by name. But I would sit
Speaker 3: there for hours playing games or whatever. You know.
Speaker 6: I think depending on what you play, some of it
Speaker 6: can give you some of it good, a good idea
Speaker 6: on the concept and what you have to do as
Speaker 6: a quarterback.
Speaker 3: If you're playing a football game.
Speaker 5: Yes, I mean not a Fortnite.
Speaker 4: Never mind.
Speaker 3: I remember this or twelve years ago. There was a
Speaker 3: linebacker here not named Sean Lee, and he used to
Speaker 3: post on Twitter how it was during the season. He
Speaker 3: would post about some video game he's playing on why aren't.
Speaker 4: You sed to? We'll get running game?
Speaker 3: But it showed up on game day on the film
Speaker 3: too that he couldn't read and react. So anyway, all right,
Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame voting talk about a guy who
Speaker 3: did things the right way throughout his career, Darren Woodson,
Speaker 3: and he's finalist for the second straight year. But he
Speaker 3: does not get that knock on his door.
Speaker 5: So the one and you guys correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker 5: I understood probably five of the six guys that got selected.
Speaker 5: Patrick Willis. Was he that good?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 3: Let me run down just so it to review Julius
Speaker 3: Pepper's first ballot. Devin Hester, Dwight Freeney, Andre Johnson, Patrick Willis,
Speaker 3: and then the senior inductees Steve McMichael and Randy Gratis
Speaker 3: shar And by the way, I don't know if it
Speaker 3: is well, I don't know if you saw the piece
Speaker 3: that ESPN ran yesterday morning on Steve McMichael, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: I mean there wasn't there. If you saw that, you
Speaker 3: would not have a dry eye. I mean I just
Speaker 3: had tears rolling down my face after seeing that. And
Speaker 3: then they came out of it. And of course Rex
Speaker 3: Ryan was with the Bears. His dad was the defensive
Speaker 3: coordinator with the Bears when McMichael was playing the old
Speaker 3: forty six defense and the eighty five Bears, and so
Speaker 3: he was as a young guy hanging around the team
Speaker 3: a lot what McMichael was all about. And uh, to
Speaker 3: see him and he's battling the latter stages of als
Speaker 3: and it's just rip your heart out and you just
Speaker 3: you're just so happy that and uh, I think it
Speaker 3: was Richard Dent who called him and on the phone
Speaker 3: and he's laying in his bed and uh, they had
Speaker 3: the video of him getting the call from Richard Dent
Speaker 3: that he's going the Hall of Fame. And you can
Speaker 3: see because his mind is still alert, everything's there, it's
Speaker 3: just his body has deteriorated so much with this horrible disease.
Speaker 3: And uh, you could see his reaction of elation when
Speaker 3: he got the call and for him to have made
Speaker 3: it this far where he knows that he's, you know,
Speaker 3: his culmination of his career. I just hope he can
Speaker 3: make it to uh physically, I don't know if it
Speaker 3: would be hard for him to get to Canton himself.
Speaker 3: But anyway, but as an aside, I mean, it's just
Speaker 3: an unbelievable story. And uh, the guys on the set
Speaker 3: couldn't talk after seeing that, under standboy. Yeah, So anyway,
Speaker 3: go back to Patrick Willis and Darren Woodson in the debate.
Speaker 5: Patrick Willis, Yeah, he was good, was he?
Speaker 3: He just didn't have the longevity.
Speaker 6: I'm not saying that I agree with it, but you know,
Speaker 6: it's like when I didn't make it that year. I
Speaker 6: got on the bus and they're like, oh, man, I
Speaker 6: thought you made it because I took my time coming down.
Speaker 4: I was gonna pissed off.
Speaker 6: So I took my time getting on the bus to
Speaker 6: go to the NFL, honest thing. And they say oh man,
Speaker 6: I thought you made it. You should have made it.
Speaker 6: And I told him on the bus, guys, we all
Speaker 6: should have made it. You know, everybody's drug. Everybody's damn good,
Speaker 6: so we all should.
Speaker 4: Have made it. You know. So whatever.
Speaker 6: You know, measurement they're using to keep Woody out, you know,
Speaker 6: the fact that he's damn good, that goes without saying.
Speaker 4: The point is why isn't he in? You know?
Speaker 6: I mean, man, that's a heck of a story. But man,
Speaker 6: you know it's a lot of people out there hurting
Speaker 6: and probably not as bad and not about trying to compare.
Speaker 6: But you know, we gotta go in the marriage right now.
Speaker 6: I mean, you're gonna Michael.
Speaker 3: Michael was a senior candidate right right now.
Speaker 6: And you know, you could pick all kinds of reasons
Speaker 6: to pick a guy. You know him, I gave a
Speaker 6: dog on kidney, so what. But that don't mean anything.
Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with with football, you know.
Speaker 6: And once again, you know, tragedy is all around us
Speaker 6: at this age, you know, but you know, what does
Speaker 6: does Darren have to you know, fall on some type
Speaker 6: of tragedy for someone saying, oh man, let's go ahead
Speaker 6: and put.
Speaker 5: Him in that pretty soon he's going to start running
Speaker 5: out of time his twenty years.
Speaker 3: I want to say he's got four years left on it.
Speaker 5: I think so because his last year was two thousand
Speaker 5: and three, so five fifteenth year of eligibility.
Speaker 4: How mean super Bowl wins? Does he have?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 4: Yep? Right there, right there?
Speaker 7: Compared to some of these other guys, what are they?
Speaker 4: What is le Roy Butler? I always go with Leroy Butler,
Speaker 4: and uh.
Speaker 3: And Patrick Willis. He was five time First Team All Pro,
Speaker 3: seven time Pro Bowler, All Decade Team, the twenty tens,
Speaker 3: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. I mean he's got
Speaker 3: just as ever since said all these guys have credited.
Speaker 3: If you become a finalist, you have credentials good enough
Speaker 3: to get in. Yes, it's just a question of it's
Speaker 3: just when you only put five of the modern day
Speaker 3: candidates in each year, there's you know, and they've had
Speaker 3: this rule for decades, the only five get in. Well,
Speaker 3: the team the league has expanded. There are more players
Speaker 3: now than that are merit can consideration.
Speaker 5: And my point is how many defensive guys do the
Speaker 5: Cowboys have in the Hall of Fame. Bob Lilly Randy White,
Speaker 5: mel renfro COLI, now.
Speaker 4: We count him.
Speaker 5: They don't count them in there, I should Cliff Cliff Harris,
Speaker 5: did I forget anybody? Charles Haley?
Speaker 3: Okay, so how about let's just look at the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me finish Haley's it. Uh. And Darren Woodson
Speaker 5: has more tackles than anybody else in franchises, a lot
Speaker 5: more solo tackles than anybody else in franchise history. And
Speaker 5: his second in special teams tackles really compared to all
Speaker 5: other guys. Yeah, second to Bill Bates.
Speaker 4: Wow, so that's new.
Speaker 5: So just put that in context of what he meant
Speaker 5: to this franchise, to this organization.
Speaker 6: And I look, I look at the ones that of
Speaker 6: his era. You look at I look at the Labroie
Speaker 6: Butler's you know, I look at him, like, what did
Speaker 6: he do that.
Speaker 4: Darren didn't do?
Speaker 5: Steve Atwater was.
Speaker 4: My next one.
Speaker 6: That's my next one, Like, how are these guys elevated
Speaker 6: over Woody?
Speaker 4: I believe wood he's older than they are.
Speaker 3: Right, they're about he's fifty four, about.
Speaker 4: The same I thought.
Speaker 5: But he came in in ninety two.
Speaker 4: I thought that.
Speaker 6: I thought Woody was always the standard for what a
Speaker 6: strong safety should play like, and then he even went
Speaker 6: beyond that when you're talking about special teams, tackles and
Speaker 6: just the things that once again, we bring it up
Speaker 6: all the time, but I don't think these young reporters
Speaker 6: give a damn about the fact that he came down
Speaker 6: and played as And here's the they don't even look
Speaker 6: at those little nuances.
Speaker 5: The thing though, here's the other thing. I went on
Speaker 5: the end of the Pro Football Hall of Fame website
Speaker 5: and they got a list of the fifty people that vote,
Speaker 5: and I just, off the top of my head started
Speaker 5: counting guys that would have been covering the NFL when
Speaker 5: Woody was playing for those thirteen years.
Speaker 7: And what was the number.
Speaker 5: I got to, thirty eight out of fifty, and some
Speaker 5: of them I didn't recognize, so they could have been,
Speaker 5: but for sure thirty eight.
Speaker 4: So it's not like he's unknown, right right.
Speaker 5: It's not like there's somebody that's thirty five years old voting.
Speaker 5: So I just don't get it.
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, guy, the anti cowboy the bias is there.
Speaker 6: You can say what you want to say, because every
Speaker 6: time he loses, every time he doesn't get in to me,
Speaker 6: it just strengthens that theory.
Speaker 7: So remind me, what is the eligibility going forward?
Speaker 3: It's the for him for the modern day, you get
Speaker 3: twenty years of chances after you have to be retired
Speaker 3: for five years and then your twenty year clock starts
Speaker 3: from there. And so he's been retired.
Speaker 4: So twenty five years after retire, Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: Then you move into the sor home with everything.
Speaker 5: So you're a dark bell.
Speaker 3: Where the senior citizen class and then the senior citizens
Speaker 3: like ever soon they get nominated. They've actually expanded that
Speaker 3: a little bit here where they like they had three
Speaker 3: candidates this year out of the senior citizens and the contributors,
Speaker 3: and before it was just one. And so ever since
Speaker 3: fell victim to that for a little bit for the
Speaker 3: first thirty years that he was a senior citizen and.
Speaker 4: Then I'm visiting a knife in my hands.
Speaker 5: I mean before they called it senior, I think they
Speaker 5: called it old timers.
Speaker 4: That accurate.
Speaker 3: So what he is four years away now from uh
Speaker 3: not being even considered in the modern day. So and
Speaker 3: he's up against Rodney Harrison, right, I mean, it's a
Speaker 3: long gym there right now. As far as the safety position,
Speaker 3: goes with Rodney Harrison and who was it? There was
Speaker 3: one of them. I can't remember who it was. Who
Speaker 3: is who got in this year? I think he was
Speaker 3: in a log gym like that and he just called.
Speaker 3: He just let the committee know that, Hey put that
Speaker 3: guy in. Okay, the guy he was up against. So
Speaker 3: if we if what he said called and said, go ahead,
Speaker 3: put Rodney Harrison in, that'll clear the logjam. And then
Speaker 3: Harrison would go in one year, and then what he
Speaker 3: would go in the next year, even though what he
Speaker 3: deserves to go in for him?
Speaker 4: But I do I think that anyway?
Speaker 5: Well, I mean Dion Sanders couldn't say enough about him.
Speaker 3: It's it's like the committee sits there and they say, okay,
Speaker 3: they're not looking at they're looking at positions. Well, we
Speaker 3: can't have two safeties go in the same year you
Speaker 3: want to have, right?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean even in the modern day, I don't
Speaker 6: think there was one defensive back, right, there wasn't a dB.
Speaker 6: So how dare we go without putting the dB in?
Speaker 6: I mean, he got all kinds of statements you can make, right.
Speaker 5: And and they they shouldn't call him a safety, should
Speaker 5: be defensive back guy.
Speaker 3: You know what position he'd played. Now, he'd be playing linebackers.
Speaker 5: The Cowboys.
Speaker 3: He was six pounds playing I mean he's yeah, I
Speaker 3: mean he literally which is a testament to his versatility.
Speaker 3: He could play that position, he can play in the slot,
Speaker 3: he can play deep safety, could play all.
Speaker 5: Those and he did right, and he did right every year.
Speaker 5: It's like what he was like, okay, a special teams
Speaker 5: and Ariazano would not take them off special teams. Finally
Speaker 5: they moved him to what's the guy way out on
Speaker 5: the edge on the kickoff team, the nine, the nine
Speaker 5: spot or whatever. So he's kind of.
Speaker 6: The guy, the safety guy, the safety, he's basically the
Speaker 6: safety that yeah, that's the safety. Yeah, last guy back,
Speaker 6: he's the guy next to you. You know, he's got
Speaker 6: everything and then you just clean up anything cost.
Speaker 5: Finally he pushed him out there. But this guy is
Speaker 5: playing fifty snap sixty snaps.
Speaker 6: The only reason I'm sure what he didn't really care
Speaker 6: about that part.
Speaker 4: You don't kickoff, you kind of get a warm up,
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, so when they run down there, you get
Speaker 4: a warm.
Speaker 3: Especially these days, you just running down the feeling the
Speaker 3: balls going down the end zone, and so you look
Speaker 3: real good running out the field.
Speaker 5: And that's why, that's why I get a kick out
Speaker 5: of those guys kickoff coverage that you know, the balls
Speaker 5: kicked out of the end zone and here they come
Speaker 5: charging all the way.
Speaker 4: The good ball's been inought. I saw that last night.
Speaker 5: We made a joke about everybody.
Speaker 4: She was running like, OK, who is this guy? What
Speaker 4: is he going?
Speaker 3: Henning?
Speaker 4: He did, he was.
Speaker 3: He knew that was his super Bowl, was going for it.
Speaker 3: It was his fifteen seconds of things.
Speaker 5: Oh, I was gonna since you mentioned, I don't know
Speaker 5: if you guys saw this. So it was on CBS
Speaker 5: what that before the pregame stuff started. They did an
Speaker 5: ode to the original NFL Today with Brett Musburger. It
Speaker 5: was really looking live, Yes, yeah it was. And they
Speaker 5: told the whole story about Jimmy the Greek and Philip
Speaker 5: George across Jane Kennedy.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: It was super Uh it was a half hour, half hour.
Speaker 5: It could have been longer. I don't know. I watched
Speaker 5: the whole thing.
Speaker 4: I think it brought.
Speaker 15: It was like the first black female, yes probably yeah,
Speaker 15: and Cross was the first Philadelphical. Don Perkins was in
Speaker 15: the Cowboys ring of honor. He went straight from playing
Speaker 15: when he retired in sixty eight or so to a network.
Speaker 5: Position after games.
Speaker 3: I think was he doing games? He wasn't so Cross
Speaker 3: was the first studio, but I do remember Don Perkins
Speaker 3: being in the studio some but yes, yeah, and then
Speaker 3: Miss America pageant.
Speaker 5: Basically she ended up marrying the governor from Kentucky Brown,
Speaker 5: John Brown maybe or whatever and any and then she
Speaker 5: left to do something else, and they hired Jane Kennedy
Speaker 5: and kept her for three or four years and then
Speaker 5: let her go because Phyllis wanted to come back. She
Speaker 5: wasn't very happy about it.
Speaker 4: He came to grantline.
Speaker 5: Oh really, we were crazy.
Speaker 4: I was seventeen years old. I was like, wow, this
Speaker 4: is good stuff.
Speaker 3: Phillis George from North Texas.
Speaker 5: North Texas, right, but yeah it was. If anybody can
Speaker 5: find it, go watch it. It was really good.
Speaker 3: All right, we got one minute left. But there's here
Speaker 3: some food for thought as far as the Chiefs are concerned.
Speaker 3: The Chiefs right now, I think are where the Cowboys
Speaker 3: were in nineteen ninety five. Going into nineteen ninety six,
Speaker 3: Cowboys had just won back to back Super Bowls. Three
Speaker 3: Super Bowls in the last four years, and the team
Speaker 3: is breaking up because free agency had just started. Whatever, Well,
Speaker 3: Kansas City is sitting there. They've won back to back
Speaker 3: Super Bowls, They've won three Super Bowls in the last
Speaker 3: five years. Mahomes about the same age as what aateman
Speaker 3: was at that point in his career. And now let's
Speaker 3: see what Kansas City does going forward. And from a
Speaker 3: free agency standpoint, they got not only the Mahomes contract,
Speaker 3: They've got Chris Jones, who's up now and keeping this
Speaker 3: thing together. It's going to be very interesting going forward
Speaker 3: if they how much longer, even though they've got Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 3: because the Cowboys had Troy Yiateman once upon a time
Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety five, and it's very difficult to keep
Speaker 3: this thing together.
Speaker 5: And they need help on their offensive line. And Kelsey
Speaker 5: is not getting any young ye by the way, I.
Speaker 3: Don't mean there's a retirement talk about him, you know,
Speaker 3: and there's retirement talk about Andy Reid, and.
Speaker 5: So he put it and do it. It sounded like, well, I'm.
Speaker 3: Not talking immediate yet in the next yeah, So it's
Speaker 3: gonna be very interesting.
Speaker 4: I can care less about what the hell they.
Speaker 7: Do the Cowboys going to ordinator.
Speaker 6: As of today. I'm done with their asses. I'm talking
Speaker 6: about Cowboys.
Speaker 5: In February nineteenth and we'll pick up there right, we're turning.
Speaker 7: The leaf, right.
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