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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: This is nick Shots, streaming live on dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys As now here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Savannah Humoler, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 3: And on this Monday after Super Bowl Sunday, I've got

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Speaker 3: four words for you to kickoff mix shots. Those four

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Speaker 3: words in spags, we trust very good that yes, Welcome

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Speaker 3: to a post super Bowl edition of mix Shots featuring

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Speaker 3: Mickey Spagnola, the long lost cousin of the Kasas City chiefs.

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Speaker 4: Us still trying to find each other. He's still lost.

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Speaker 5: We we always knew that, right in spags, we.

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Speaker 4: Trust, Okay, I thought you.

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Speaker 6: We always knew that the defense is going to play

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Speaker 6: well for Kansas City.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know about all of that.

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Speaker 3: How's everybody doing? Let's check the microphones here ever soon?

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Speaker 3: How are you doing?

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Speaker 4: Check? Check one? Two checking?

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Speaker 3: Savannah? How are you doing?

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Speaker 5: Oh, we're great, it sounds great.

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Speaker 3: How about Mickey? How are you doing? There?

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Speaker 4: He goes there, he goes there, he goes jeez.

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Speaker 5: We trust.

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Speaker 3: It comes to here. I set you up and be

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Speaker 3: here to check everything right? All right, what y'all think?

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Speaker 7: Amazing? Crazy game? Crazy game.

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Speaker 5: I think we learned that defense matters?

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Speaker 4: Does it does?

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Speaker 3: Does defense wins championships?

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Speaker 4: Spags?

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Speaker 5: It did it?

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Speaker 3: This one man, Mickey has long been a proponent of

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Speaker 3: scarring points wins championships. They scored more points.

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Speaker 5: You're right, and it took overtime, it did. Did everybody

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Speaker 5: know the overtime role?

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Speaker 4: I did? I did?

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Speaker 6: We in the family, we were going over it, okay,

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Speaker 6: making sure we.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that and it was CBS, so I'm

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Speaker 3: sure that they did a great job of explaining it.

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Speaker 3: And I know they went over it at the beginning.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they went over it enough.

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Speaker 4: I don't know they went with the team. The teams

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Speaker 4: didn't even know.

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Speaker 5: San Francisco didn't know some of their players.

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Speaker 7: Had But how how do you how do you allow that? Like,

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Speaker 7: shouldn't that be.

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Speaker 5: Chris Jones that for two weeks leading up to the

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Speaker 5: Super Bowl that they talked about it daily with the chiefs.

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Speaker 5: Ok Mahomes said to the point, I was tired of

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Speaker 5: hearing it. And they talked to change the rules on

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Speaker 5: overtime last year.

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Speaker 4: But they changed the rules because of the Kansas City game, right.

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Speaker 8: Not.

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Speaker 5: What they didn't explain though, and I had to remind myself,

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Speaker 5: is if it had been tied after the first possessions

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Speaker 5: in overtime, like each got their team and each kicked

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Speaker 5: a field goal, then it's sudden death. They never pointed

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Speaker 5: that out on the broadcast, that that was part of it.

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Speaker 3: What else would it be, well that.

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Speaker 5: We get each get another possession.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it never dawned on me that it would

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Speaker 3: be continuous.

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Speaker 7: They would make a double.

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Speaker 3: On endlessly where trades possessions.

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Speaker 5: Especially since the overtime periods that would have expired. Then yeah,

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Speaker 5: you just keep playing.

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Speaker 3: Chris Beam, producer Supreme wants to chime in, how are

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Speaker 3: you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing really well because I was kind of interested

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Speaker 2: about the overtime rules too. And on the way home,

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Speaker 2: I was listening to the radio and they had the

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Speaker 2: Fox analyst, the guy that no no catch, no catch guy,

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Speaker 2: the former official.

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Speaker 4: Okay, was it Mike or something? No, whatever, the.

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Speaker 3: Fox guy, I know who you're talking about.

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Speaker 2: So he said that they weren't worried about the clock

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Speaker 2: because it was like that was the first quarter of overtime.

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Speaker 5: They were just moved in the other end.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, So I mean it was like because there

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Speaker 2: was three seconds left right when they took that last snap.

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Speaker 5: Actually they yeah.

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Speaker 3: It finished it three seconds.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was it was like ten seconds left.

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Speaker 2: So that's why that's why they were not worried about

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Speaker 5: And and you know what Maurice Jones drew on NFL

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Speaker 5: Network afterward, was asking the Holmes, Well, Kley, you ran

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Speaker 5: it's like, well, no.

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Speaker 3: Because there's just going to go the other Well, there

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Speaker 3: I believe the play clock was behind it. They had

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Speaker 3: They couldn't because they would have taken that option probably.

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Speaker 5: And I think Rumbo pointed that out that there was

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Speaker 5: you know, need, no need to worry. You would have

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Speaker 3: But what I'm saying is you had to run a

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Speaker 3: play because there was a difference between the play clock

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Speaker 4: So if we go into the.

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Speaker 6: Over time, we use up all of overtime, right, and

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Speaker 6: it's still tied, so then the sudden death right right, right,

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Speaker 5: And you know what Chris Jones said, I was reading

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Speaker 5: an interview with.

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Speaker 3: Him, my cousin, Chris Jones.

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Speaker 5: Yes, game right. I didn't see any humolers. He said

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Speaker 5: that had had San Francisco scored a touchdown, and then

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Speaker 5: if we had come down and score a touchdown, we

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Speaker 5: had already talked about going for two to end the game.

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Speaker 5: How about that? Now that would attach to that would

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Speaker 5: have taken some I know about. Yeah, now, it's one

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Speaker 7: That was the case.

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Speaker 4: I think about it. I can really.

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Speaker 3: But if you know, if you're San Francisco though, and

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Speaker 3: that's even more of a reason. It's even more of

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Speaker 3: a reason why. And you have to if you have

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Speaker 3: the option, you have to have the ball last. With

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Speaker 3: these yes now and the old overtime rules, if you

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Speaker 3: can score a touchdown, you can end the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: take the ball from okay, but these rules it's like baseball. Baseball,

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Speaker 3: the home team has an advantage because they bat last,

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Speaker 3: and so you want to bat last in this game now,

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Speaker 3: and then in that case with San Francisco. Since Patrick

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Speaker 3: Holmes is the quarterback on the other side, I take

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Speaker 3: the ball second, score my touchdown, and I would seriously

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Speaker 3: consider going for two because I don't want Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 6: The difference right there depends on the quarterback, right, Well,

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Speaker 6: it depends on to me, only one quarterback and it

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Speaker 5: Well, but still, why did they take the ball they

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Speaker 5: won the toss.

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Speaker 3: He said, because he wanted the ball. Third, he said

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Speaker 5: Was tied after Kyle.

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Speaker 3: Sheahan said he wanted the ball third, He wanted it

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Speaker 3: when it went to sudden death, and that's why he

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Speaker 5: So interesting. But see what happens though, is if you

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Speaker 5: if you take the ball second, then you got four downs, right,

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Speaker 5: you can go. You gotta go for it, right when

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Speaker 5: when you take it first, you're not going to gamble

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Speaker 5: on fourth down. You're gonna kick the field goal. That's

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Speaker 5: the difference, right. You want to know what you got

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he knew because because you can't in that situation,

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Speaker 3: San Francisco is down there. Yes, they could have gone

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Speaker 3: the other side. But if you don't make it, now

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Speaker 3: all they need is to drive half the field on

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Speaker 3: you and kick a field goal and win the game. Well,

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Speaker 3: I could see made a Super Bowl record fifty seven

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Speaker 5: Wow, a record fifty five and then a record fifty seven.

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Speaker 6: That could have Really it looked like it was crossed

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Speaker 6: the goalposts of the uprights still going you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean. It wasn't like it much. Yeah, it looked

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Speaker 5: But it wasn't very high.

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Speaker 4: Well, they got tested, didn't it.

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Speaker 3: They're talking about the fifty seven.

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Speaker 5: Yard fifty seven the low one low No, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 4: I thought that that one was touched.

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Speaker 5: I don't think so, because it it it had a

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Speaker 6: You didn't think that that it was touched. I saw

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Speaker 5: No, that was the extra point that got blocked.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm not talking about that.

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Speaker 3: Oh you're talking about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you're yeah, but it went right past the guys

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Speaker 4: I thought maybe it actually touched. No, I don't think so.

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Speaker 5: It almost got blocked.

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Speaker 4: That's I'm talking so low.

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Speaker 5: But it was good. So I can understand now had

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Speaker 5: Kansas City had the ball last, it was almost like

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Speaker 5: the two point conversion was like a possession mm hmm,

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Speaker 5: because then if you just tie it, then they can

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Speaker 5: go down and win sudden death, right, But it would

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Speaker 3: Was there any point besides the mentions of Steve Spagnola?

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Speaker 3: Was there any point ever since in this game where

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Speaker 3: you thought of Key Spagnola? When they showed a shot

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Speaker 3: and very obscure thing that happened, it was amazing that

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 3: When Dre green log runs on the field and tears

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Speaker 3: his achilles, did you think of Mickey Spagnola? Did because

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Speaker 3: I did?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, figure it out?

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Speaker 6: Initially turned when I saw when I saw they we

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Speaker 6: ran it back at the house, and I said that's

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Speaker 6: an achilles.

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Speaker 5: Immediately, I immediately said.

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Speaker 7: It had to be something.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, But it wasn't a mystic.

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Speaker 5: I knew, I knew, and then when he when he.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to go ahead and get it the way

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Speaker 3: because otherwise the whole segment on Micky talking about his

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Speaker 3: Achilles experience, I mean, all you had.

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Speaker 5: To do is see what happened.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, he came out. It's almost like he was

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Speaker 6: They were so excited to get down bouncing, and he

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Speaker 4: Now I was looking for something weird.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and when I finally, for some reason, I didn't

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Speaker 6: think about you. I think I was just so amazed

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Speaker 5: That's how the injury occurred.

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Speaker 6: But yeah, damn, it's crazy man. And then next thing

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Speaker 6: you know, Marandy Gregory's out there playing ball.

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Speaker 3: But Dray green Law that was a big gloss for

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Speaker 6: I don't know what a difference, how much more he

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Speaker 3: You know, there could have been I'm sure there were

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Speaker 4: They did well. He did well, but did well.

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Speaker 5: Kansas City had to play their backup defensive tackle too,

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Speaker 6: So you have to challenge people, right, don't don't let

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's well.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's tough when you got to do it.

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Speaker 3: They beat him at the end of the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: One of the things that I myself don't consider as

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Speaker 4: He didn't pay them line.

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Speaker 5: Well, and the other one that was trying to cover

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Speaker 3: And he well there's there's the difference. Birks was on

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Speaker 5: So Gregory played twenty seven snaps and had one tackle.

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Speaker 5: I had almost forgotten he got traded.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that was crazy. I saw him out there, looked

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Speaker 3: Well, that's been his role throughout his career really, you know,

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Speaker 5: Ring and he's got a ring.

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Speaker 4: NF now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, NFC champion.

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Speaker 4: That's not how they.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Patrick Mahon.

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Speaker 3: You know what what I'll say is mahomes feet the

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Speaker 6: When when what was the year when he broken his

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Speaker 4: Use his feet.

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Speaker 6: I would have to go with I don't know who defensively,

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Speaker 6: holding on. And I said, before this game, you take

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Speaker 6: they had this year. I didn't think they were going

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Speaker 5: I didn't think. And I watched pregame from ten o'clock

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Speaker 5: what did they finish well? They finished number two in

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Speaker 5: And then I went and looked it up. Four of

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Speaker 5: their six regular season losses twenty one, twenty twenty one, seventeen,

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Speaker 5: twenty seventeen, and twenty fourteen, So they lost four games

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Speaker 4: That's what I saw all, you know, So they were close.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you know, everybody made so much about

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Speaker 6: Uh and would have and no one when it's all

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Speaker 6: put in Specnola because he is He has kept them

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Speaker 3: And specifically in key situations bringing the blitz yes or

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Speaker 3: timely blitzes. Yeah, I mean the the receivers opened on

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Speaker 4: Was on There was one where they tried to sneak

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Speaker 6: The guy was opening the end zone, but the throat

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Speaker 6: the second down plays. Well, okay, it's second and ten

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Speaker 6: You know, they get no gain on that play and

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Speaker 5: Which is not what they did in the first half

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Speaker 4: But they hard.

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Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, they got closer and closer coming after you.

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Speaker 3: The other part of that is now he's been there

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Speaker 3: it all goes through your Missouri guy. That's Bolton and

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Speaker 5: Incredible. We want to bring up academics in Oklahoma, by.

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Speaker 3: The way, But but smart players, and that's something Kansas

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Speaker 6: I couldn't I couldn't name but maybe three players on

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Speaker 5: Well, their corners really, that's all I could probably name.

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Speaker 5: Their corners were really good and they're I think both

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Speaker 3: Need is.

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Speaker 4: To do with secondary.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Trent McDuffie is he covers guy in the

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Speaker 6: Have called that called the personal file when the sneed

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Speaker 5: The missed right.

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Speaker 4: I know. They didn't even hit him hard.

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Speaker 3: It was just like you know, one thing on that

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Speaker 3: on replay, you can't see how hard he hit him, really,

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Speaker 3: when you slow it down, it's like that. Yeah, but

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Speaker 6: It was quickness, but there was no no heavy impact.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was just hey, guys, make it up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah right.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like the deal in the San Francisco

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Speaker 5: If that was the NBA, the guy would have fell

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Speaker 3: So did you answer Savannah's question, Oh, I didn't use

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Speaker 7: Who's your standout.

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Speaker 4: SPA?

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Speaker 5: I would I mean I would have said Macomes. But

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Speaker 6: No, defensively, she said, you need someone different making pregame.

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Speaker 5: How about this one pregame on NFL Network, They went

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Speaker 5: he took Holy hell for this. Michael Irvin, Juwan Jennings interesting,

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Speaker 5: and they're going what and you know what he was

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Speaker 3: He thought, Alvin Harper is going to have a big game. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: By the way, he would have been.

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Speaker 4: The MVP if they wanted to get right, he would

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Speaker 3: Who was a high school quarterback.

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Speaker 5: He was very good.

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Speaker 3: As soon as he threw the pass, I said, I

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Speaker 4: And that was the worst play for a touchdown I

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Speaker 5: I mean, how did the ball not get intercepted?

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Speaker 3: Going back's design?

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Speaker 6: So you got two guys out there, they're filling around

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Speaker 4: The ball is not even thrown yet you still can't

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Speaker 3: And then Bolton the academic All America, that's right, Surrey,

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Speaker 4: Well, he did his job. He made him which was

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Speaker 4: what job. He did his job.

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Speaker 3: He captured the edge.

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Speaker 5: And if you listened to the halftime analysis, they were

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Speaker 5: It's ten to three and it took a freak play

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Speaker 3: And I was amazed that double digits are is what

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Speaker 3: don't tell us about double digit deficits.

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Speaker 5: Both the backs at halftime ended up with the same

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Speaker 3: Ohen, did you know that Patrick mahomes three hundred and

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Speaker 6: Yes, so what do we make of that?

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Speaker 5: Hair was the best thing that was said after the game?

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Speaker 4: What even said?

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Speaker 3: It was thirty three? Thirty three?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it wasn't thirty three. Right after the game. Uh,

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Speaker 5: they were in one of the stations, was enter any

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Speaker 5: interviewing Andy Reid and his wife was up there with

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Speaker 5: him and they were talking about her being, you know,

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Speaker 5: the MVP of the family or whatever, and Andy Reid ghosts,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. She had five kids and it ruined

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Speaker 5: my body.

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Speaker 4: That's funny. I like that. He's a jokes to Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you hear me go.

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Speaker 7: By the way, it's like a dry since.

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Speaker 5: Bill brought it up. Former University Missouri offensive line coach too.

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Speaker 3: By the way, that's right, that's right, way back when

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: All right. As we go to break, I've got a

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Speaker 10: Who was the highest rated high school quarterback recruit who

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Speaker 3: Okay, before we get away from it, the trivia question

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Speaker 3: was who was the highest rated high school quarterback recruit

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Speaker 3: playing in the Super Bowl yesterday?

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Speaker 4: All right, what position does he play? Now?

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to give you that him.

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Speaker 7: I asked Bell what team? And he won't give me that.

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Speaker 3: She asked what team? I said, either Kansas City or

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Speaker 3: San Francisco. Here's another hint. He's a former cowboy. He's

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Speaker 3: a former cowboy, Randy Gregor, former cal It's not Ward,

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Speaker 3: It's not Randy Gregory. It's not Jake Brindle the center

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Speaker 3: for the San Francisco forty nine ers, who was a

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Speaker 3: college free agent. Here it is tight end for Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: Blake Bell, the Bell Dozer, who is the number He

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Speaker 3: was the number one rated to talk about that. He

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Speaker 3: had ten snaps in the game and he had a

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Speaker 3: huge block on one of the key runs at the

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Speaker 3: end of the game. He was a number one rated

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Speaker 3: dual threat quarterback out of Wichita, Kansas in twenty ten.

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Speaker 3: Blaine Gabbert, the former Missouri Tiger, was the number two

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Speaker 3: pro style quarterback recruit in two thousand and eight. Okay,

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Speaker 3: so he is the second highest rated. The third highest

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Speaker 3: rated quarterback coming out of high school in yesterday's game

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Speaker 3: was Sam Darnold, number five overall or number five quarterback

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Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen. Juwan Jennings was the fourth highest rated quarterback,

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Speaker 3: number seven in twenty fifteen. Did you take the Brandon

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Speaker 3: Pallen San Francisco Thirdeam San Francisco Third Team quarterback Brandon

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Speaker 3: Allen out of Arkansas was the number eight high school

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Speaker 3: quarterback recruit in twenty eleven. Finally we get to one, two, three,

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Speaker 3: four five the sixth highest rated quarterback coming out of

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Speaker 3: high school that played in the game yesterday. Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: was number twenty two in twenty fourteen, and the number

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Speaker 3: seven was Brock Purdy, who was number thirty six among

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks coming out in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 5: Did that make Bill Jones sports special last night?

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Speaker 3: It did not?

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Speaker 5: Which, by the way, what time did you to deliver

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Speaker 5: that today?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 5: What did you get on?

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Speaker 3: I got on? I got out at eleven forty five okay,

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Speaker 3: forty five out? And I looked up this trivia question

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Speaker 3: about one fifteen in the morning before I went to bed.

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Speaker 5: My guest was going to be. It was a running quarterback,

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Speaker 5: Deebo Samuel Well.

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Speaker 3: I haven't looked him up. Maybe he would, I think. Okay, anyway,

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Speaker 3: there you go, and there's a cowboy connection there, Blake

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Speaker 3: Bell who was spent one year, one year tight end

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Speaker 3: here and then he got back to Kansas City and

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Speaker 3: started winning more Super.

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Speaker 5: Bowl fast as he could.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Uh, and.

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Speaker 4: You enjoyed the kicking. You enjoyed the kicking game yesterday.

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Speaker 4: The kicking game, just the kicking game on. The kickers

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Speaker 4: were good.

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Speaker 5: The kickers were very good.

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Speaker 9: Coverage team was good to special teams except for Moody

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Speaker 9: missing the first extra point of his career.

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Speaker 4: Is that crazy?

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, it gets blocked, that's all that's well.

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Speaker 4: I think it was kind of low.

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Speaker 3: It was low, but it was a high snap, as

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Speaker 3: Jay Feely pointed out on the CBS broadcast.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, that he blamed it on the kicker fifty seven.

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Speaker 3: Ye, Pey did well because of the high snap. So

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Speaker 3: I guess you're blaming it on them snaps.

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Speaker 5: What Steve Hoffman taught me, if the ball comes back

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Speaker 5: and it's flat on the ground, the kicker when the

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Speaker 5: extra point was close, you got to make it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just no elevated quickly. Yeah. Do you want to

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Speaker 3: do a little update on what's going on here with

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys? And back on Thursday night, it appeared that

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Speaker 3: it was eminent that new defensive coordinator was going to

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Speaker 3: be named shortly, and here we are Monday morning and

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Speaker 3: one hasn't been named. Now, I know the NFL teams

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Speaker 3: are basically told by the league. Let's focus on the

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Speaker 3: super Bowl, and so there's not going to be a

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Speaker 3: press release, but work. Can you tell us it stands

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Speaker 3: with Mike Zimmer as a defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 5: The last thing I heard was that the contract had

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Speaker 5: not been completed. They needed to cross the t's and

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Speaker 5: dot the i's, and as of this morning was still

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Speaker 5: haven't got official word that he's been named the defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 5: which I highly endorsed on Wednesday in mix shots. So

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Speaker 5: did Darren Woodson, by the way, who once again once

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Speaker 5: again does not make before we get I don't want

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Speaker 5: to get in the down with this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah we are, though this one.

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Speaker 5: Zim seemed to be the natural choice to me and

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Speaker 5: I and I think I said it last week, the

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Speaker 5: natural everybody's and ever since you made me think about

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Speaker 5: it when you said, well, don't they have a young

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Speaker 5: guy up and coming to promote? And my thought on

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Speaker 5: that is, if there's an up and young guy coming

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Speaker 5: and he's got a secure job, is he going to

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Speaker 5: come somewhere where it's a one year contract on the

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Speaker 5: head coach where somebody else he may be working for

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Speaker 5: somebody that's got three four years. Same thing with Joe Witt,

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Speaker 5: he goes with Dan Quinn to Washington. Well, Dan's got

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Speaker 5: to have at least a five year deal. He stays here,

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Speaker 5: it's a one year deal for sure, so a.

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Speaker 7: Lot more job security.

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Speaker 5: So I always thought it would be somebody that probably

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Speaker 5: was out of work. Uh, and that's why Ron Rivera

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Speaker 5: was in on it. The other thing that occurred to

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Speaker 5: me is if you if you hire Zim, which is

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Speaker 5: still a possibility, can you bring in another guy as

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Speaker 5: the defensive consultant, sort of like they did with George Edwards.

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Speaker 5: I don't know if that'll happen, but but now they

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Speaker 5: lose Aiden Dirty to Seattle as the defensive coordinator. Joe

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Speaker 5: went to Washington as the defensive coordinator.

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Speaker 4: What's going on with him?

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Speaker 5: He's still here and I think, you know, he's a

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Speaker 5: guy that they need.

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Speaker 3: To hang on to him.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And I don't know if he would get the

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Speaker 5: job as coordinator ordinator, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Which puts you in position, a greater position to be

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Speaker 3: a defensive coordinator right now.

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Speaker 5: The other thing.

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Speaker 4: Seems he's earned that.

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Speaker 5: Oh absolutely. And Joe Witt's title was secondary coach past

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Speaker 5: game cortern. Al Harris's title was defensive back coach.

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Speaker 4: So that's pretty simple. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty cut, and.

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Speaker 5: We'll see what what happens there. They also lost Sharif Floyd,

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Speaker 5: who was a defensive young defensive assistant. I think it

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Speaker 5: was just this first year. I think Quinn brought him

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Speaker 5: to Washington with him. So those guys were able to

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Speaker 5: get a promotion. Now what occurred to me. You remember

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Speaker 5: how San Francisco took advantage of this having people promoted

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Speaker 5: to head coach and you get an extra draft pick,

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Speaker 5: you get a couple. Actually, yeah, they got it. They

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Speaker 5: got fun right well around the league, do you get

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Speaker 5: something when one of your guys gets elevated in to.

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Speaker 3: A coordinators My understanding is no, it's.

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Speaker 5: Got a head coach manager.

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Speaker 3: Yes, okay, because I look that up because I was

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Speaker 3: I thought the same thing. Uh, but it's head coach

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Speaker 3: or defensive coordinator. He actually get two picks of the

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Speaker 3: third rounder this year in the next year for a

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Speaker 3: head coach.

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Speaker 5: For a head coach. Yeah, okay, so that's kind of

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Speaker 5: where they at on the coaching staff. Uh so they're

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Speaker 5: going to have to find a defensive line coach uh

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Speaker 5: and another secondary coach and uh.

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Speaker 3: Rex Ryan on ESPN yesterday, he certainly made it sound like.

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Speaker 3: In fact, he flat out said that it's my understanding

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Speaker 3: that Mike Zimmer doesn't have that job so far. I

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Speaker 3: mean they he uh, he did say that. He went

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Speaker 3: on to say that he thinks that this Cowboys team,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's been out of work for seven years whatever,

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Speaker 3: and there's jobs he could have taken, whatever, but he

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Speaker 3: wasn't going to go unless he had a chance to

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Speaker 3: win a super Bowl. And he thinks that this Cowboys team,

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Speaker 3: this defense is just to tick away from getting over

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Speaker 3: the hump. And he personally called Mike McCarthy and he

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Speaker 3: said that I want to be your guy, and because

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Speaker 3: and he was touting the defense and where it is

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Speaker 3: right now and how he thinks that he can do

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Speaker 3: some things to put.

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Speaker 4: It over the top.

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Speaker 3: And so anyway, that's and apparently the people here in

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Speaker 3: Dallas liked what they heard from Rex Ryan.

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Speaker 4: But I just.

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Speaker 5: From a personality standpoint, I think Zim fits better with

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Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy. And McCarthy probably has he knows Zim just

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Speaker 5: from competing against him in.

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Speaker 3: Twice a year, the number of years.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And and the Cowboys know Zim and he's pretty

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Speaker 5: good at what he does as a defensive coordinator. By

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Speaker 5: the way, I just think that that just seems natural

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Speaker 5: to me if they can get the contract worked out,

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Speaker 5: and he you know.

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Speaker 3: You would think that the reason you don't get the

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Speaker 3: contract worked out. I mean that was Thursday night that Jerry,

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Speaker 3: and so you have your attorneys looking at it whatever.

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Speaker 3: And so this is the start of the work week

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Speaker 3: on Monday. Now if it stretches a couple more days,

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Speaker 3: then okay, then maybe there's an issue.

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Speaker 5: And he wasn't totally out of work for two years.

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Speaker 5: He did work as a He worked with the defensive

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Speaker 5: analyst or consulting at Jackson State for one year and

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Speaker 5: then Dion brought him into Colorado to talk to the team.

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Speaker 6: Both he and both he and Dion's favorite person is

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Speaker 6: Dennis that's right. He was a Rex loved Dennis Derman

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Speaker 6: when he was coaching.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you're talking about Rex Ryan, all right?

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Speaker 4: Sorry?

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Speaker 3: Right, And Dennis Thurman was the defensive coordinator for Rex

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Speaker 3: Ryan at Buffalo And in fact, Stephan Gilmore says that

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Speaker 3: he credits Dennis Thurman with turning around or getting his

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Speaker 3: career jump started a couple of years into it, and

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Speaker 3: he went on and became the NFL Defensive Player of the.

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Speaker 6: Year, and he coached for Dion as well at Colorado.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and give me the book here. I

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Speaker 5: just want to remind myself. So Bill Parsals gets and

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Speaker 5: well he should all that credit for the Cowboys turning

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Speaker 5: around in twenty thousand and three five.

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Speaker 3: I mean going to a three four defense.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but he in two thousand and three they got

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Speaker 5: in the playoffs, right, And if I remember correctly, in

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Speaker 5: two thousand and three, the Cowboys defense was ranked number

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Speaker 5: one under Mike Zimmer, so that one always got lost.

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Speaker 5: And when they were really bad in two thousand they were.

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Speaker 5: They were nineteenth, fourth, eighteenth, and then first, and those

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Speaker 5: first three teams were five and eleven. But they were

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Speaker 5: playing pretty well defensively. So Zim is pretty good at

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Speaker 5: what he does, and he's pretty aggressive, and he won't

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Speaker 5: take any s from anybody, including Michaeh. Parsons.

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Speaker 3: Did We're going to get to the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: voting here in the next segment, but as we wrap

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Speaker 3: up this one, did you happen to see what Jordan

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Speaker 3: Love said on Michael Parsons podcast?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I did not.

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Speaker 7: What did he say?

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Speaker 3: Micah, it is very interesting. It's great. I mean, here

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Speaker 3: we are just a couple of weeks after three weeks

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Speaker 3: after the Packers beat the count Boys, and here you

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Speaker 3: got the quarterback and the edge rusher of the star

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Speaker 3: player and Cowboys talking with each other about that game,

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Speaker 3: and Mike is asking Jordan Lowe, Okay, so tell me

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Speaker 3: what what did you see? How what did you do?

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Speaker 3: What was your strategy against us? What did you see whatever?

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Speaker 3: And he said, you know, we're looking at your defense,

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Speaker 3: and we knew we needed to run the ball. And

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Speaker 3: I mean, we we had success before when he wasn't

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Speaker 3: the quarterback Rogers was we had success the year before,

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Speaker 3: able to establish the run. And then he said, and

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Speaker 3: you know, not to start anything up, but you know

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Speaker 3: we're looking at that defense and you're you're playing dB

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Speaker 3: at linebacker.

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Speaker 5: Well that was that was no.

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Speaker 3: Secret, no secret. It was interesting that what we've been seeing,

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Speaker 3: we've been seeing the last half of the year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it was so obvious.

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Speaker 6: That I saw, we can't find the linebacker nowhere, nowhere,

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Speaker 6: out there in the universe.

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Speaker 5: Up he was getting double teamed at defensive end. Should

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Speaker 3: So anyway, I thought that was very interesting.

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Speaker 5: It's very interesting.

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Speaker 3: So and you can find it out there somewhere, all right.

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Speaker 3: When we come back. We got much more to get to,

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Speaker 3: including the Hall of Fame voting last week.

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Speaker 3: Now, what was that about four Fortnite set?

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Speaker 3: I thought it was interesting. Alex Smith was talking about

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes when he came into the league and credit

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Speaker 3: Patrick Mahomes last night, crediting Alex Smith for their success

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Speaker 3: set the tone for his career. But Alex Smith was

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Speaker 3: talking about Patrick Mahomes and he said, yeah, when he

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Speaker 3: came here, you know, he's a good kid, and you

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Speaker 3: know he had good study habits, but he played video

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Speaker 3: games way too much, and so I think he had

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Speaker 3: the video games he got that out of his Maybe

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Speaker 3: Alex Smith had that effect on Patrick as a college

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Speaker 3: kid coming I remember myself. I mean they didn't have

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Speaker 3: video games back in by name. But I would sit

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Speaker 3: there for hours playing games or whatever. You know.

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Speaker 6: I think depending on what you play, some of it

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Speaker 6: on the concept and what you have to do as

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Speaker 6: a quarterback.

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Speaker 3: If you're playing a football game.

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Speaker 5: Yes, I mean not a Fortnite.

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Speaker 4: Never mind.

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Speaker 3: I remember this or twelve years ago. There was a

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Speaker 3: linebacker here not named Sean Lee, and he used to

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Speaker 3: post on Twitter how it was during the season. He

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Speaker 4: You sed to? We'll get running game?

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Speaker 3: But it showed up on game day on the film

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Speaker 3: too that he couldn't read and react. So anyway, all right,

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame voting talk about a guy who

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Speaker 3: did things the right way throughout his career, Darren Woodson,

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Speaker 3: and he's finalist for the second straight year. But he

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Speaker 3: does not get that knock on his door.

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Speaker 5: So the one and you guys correct me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 5: I understood probably five of the six guys that got selected.

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Speaker 5: Patrick Willis. Was he that good?

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Speaker 4: Okay?

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Speaker 3: Let me run down just so it to review Julius

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Speaker 3: Pepper's first ballot. Devin Hester, Dwight Freeney, Andre Johnson, Patrick Willis,

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Speaker 3: and then the senior inductees Steve McMichael and Randy Gratis

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Speaker 3: shar And by the way, I don't know if it

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Speaker 3: is well, I don't know if you saw the piece

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Speaker 3: that ESPN ran yesterday morning on Steve McMichael, Oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I mean there wasn't there. If you saw that, you

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Speaker 3: had tears rolling down my face after seeing that. And

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Speaker 3: then they came out of it. And of course Rex

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Speaker 3: Ryan was with the Bears. His dad was the defensive

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Speaker 3: forty six defense and the eighty five Bears, and so

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Speaker 3: he was as a young guy hanging around the team

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Speaker 3: a lot what McMichael was all about. And uh, to

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Speaker 3: see him and he's battling the latter stages of als

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Speaker 3: and it's just rip your heart out and you just

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Speaker 3: the video of him getting the call from Richard Dent

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Speaker 3: that he's going the Hall of Fame. And you can

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Speaker 3: see because his mind is still alert, everything's there, it's

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Speaker 3: just his body has deteriorated so much with this horrible disease.

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Speaker 3: And uh, you could see his reaction of elation when

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Speaker 3: he got the call and for him to have made

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Speaker 3: it this far where he knows that he's, you know,

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Speaker 3: his culmination of his career. I just hope he can

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Speaker 3: make it to uh physically, I don't know if it

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Speaker 3: would be hard for him to get to Canton himself.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, but as an aside, I mean, it's just

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Speaker 3: an unbelievable story. And uh, the guys on the set

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Speaker 3: couldn't talk after seeing that, under standboy. Yeah, So anyway,

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Speaker 3: go back to Patrick Willis and Darren Woodson in the debate.

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Speaker 5: Patrick Willis, Yeah, he was good, was he?

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Speaker 3: He just didn't have the longevity.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that I agree with it, but you know,

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Speaker 6: it's like when I didn't make it that year. I

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Speaker 6: got on the bus and they're like, oh, man, I

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Speaker 4: I was gonna pissed off.

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Speaker 6: So I took my time getting on the bus to

891
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 6: go to the NFL, honest thing. And they say oh man,

892
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 6: I thought you made it. You should have made it.

893
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 6: And I told him on the bus, guys, we all

894
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,759
Speaker 6: should have made it. You know, everybody's drug. Everybody's damn good,

895
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 6: so we all should.

896
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 4: Have made it. You know. So whatever.

897
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: You know, measurement they're using to keep Woody out, you know,

898
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 6: the fact that he's damn good, that goes without saying.

899
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 4: The point is why isn't he in? You know?

900
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 6: I mean, man, that's a heck of a story. But man,

901
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,279
Speaker 6: you know it's a lot of people out there hurting

902
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 6: and probably not as bad and not about trying to compare.

903
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 6: But you know, we gotta go in the marriage right now.

904
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 6: I mean, you're gonna Michael.

905
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: Michael was a senior candidate right right now.

906
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 6: And you know, you could pick all kinds of reasons

907
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 6: to pick a guy. You know him, I gave a

908
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 6: dog on kidney, so what. But that don't mean anything.

909
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 6: It has nothing to do with with football, you know.

910
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:23,759
Speaker 6: And once again, you know, tragedy is all around us

911
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 6: at this age, you know, but you know, what does

912
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:30,000
Speaker 6: does Darren have to you know, fall on some type

913
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 6: of tragedy for someone saying, oh man, let's go ahead

914
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 6: and put.

915
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: Him in that pretty soon he's going to start running

916
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 5: out of time his twenty years.

917
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 3: I want to say he's got four years left on it.

918
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:42,040
Speaker 5: I think so because his last year was two thousand

919
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 5: and three, so five fifteenth year of eligibility.

920
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: How mean super Bowl wins? Does he have?

921
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,120
Speaker 3: Three?

922
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 4: Yep? Right there, right there?

923
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 7: Compared to some of these other guys, what are they?

924
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 4: What is le Roy Butler? I always go with Leroy Butler,

925
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:57,000
Speaker 4: and uh.

926
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 3: And Patrick Willis. He was five time First Team All Pro,

927
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 3: seven time Pro Bowler, All Decade Team, the twenty tens,

928
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,239
Speaker 3: NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. I mean he's got

929
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 3: just as ever since said all these guys have credited.

930
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 3: If you become a finalist, you have credentials good enough

931
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,919
Speaker 3: to get in. Yes, it's just a question of it's

932
00:50:19,960 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 3: just when you only put five of the modern day

933
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: candidates in each year, there's you know, and they've had

934
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,399
Speaker 3: this rule for decades, the only five get in. Well,

935
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: the team the league has expanded. There are more players

936
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 3: now than that are merit can consideration.

937
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 5: And my point is how many defensive guys do the

938
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 5: Cowboys have in the Hall of Fame. Bob Lilly Randy White,

939
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,360
Speaker 5: mel renfro COLI, now.

940
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 4: We count him.

941
00:50:57,000 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 5: They don't count them in there, I should Cliff Cliff Harris,

942
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:05,280
Speaker 5: did I forget anybody? Charles Haley?

943
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,760
Speaker 3: Okay, so how about let's just look at the Cowboys.

944
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:17,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, let me finish Haley's it. Uh. And Darren Woodson

945
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: has more tackles than anybody else in franchises, a lot

946
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 5: more solo tackles than anybody else in franchise history. And

947
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:34,120
Speaker 5: his second in special teams tackles really compared to all

948
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 5: other guys. Yeah, second to Bill Bates.

949
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,839
Speaker 4: Wow, so that's new.

950
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 5: So just put that in context of what he meant

951
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 5: to this franchise, to this organization.

952
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 6: And I look, I look at the ones that of

953
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 6: his era. You look at I look at the Labroie

954
00:51:54,200 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 6: Butler's you know, I look at him, like, what did

955
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:57,799
Speaker 6: he do that.

956
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:58,560
Speaker 4: Darren didn't do?

957
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 5: Steve Atwater was.

958
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 4: My next one.

959
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 6: That's my next one, Like, how are these guys elevated

960
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 6: over Woody?

961
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 4: I believe wood he's older than they are.

962
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 3: Right, they're about he's fifty four, about.

963
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 4: The same I thought.

964
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 5: But he came in in ninety two.

965
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 4: I thought that.

966
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 6: I thought Woody was always the standard for what a

967
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 6: strong safety should play like, and then he even went

968
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,279
Speaker 6: beyond that when you're talking about special teams, tackles and

969
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 6: just the things that once again, we bring it up

970
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 6: all the time, but I don't think these young reporters

971
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 6: give a damn about the fact that he came down

972
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:34,799
Speaker 6: and played as And here's the they don't even look

973
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 6: at those little nuances.

974
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 5: The thing though, here's the other thing. I went on

975
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 5: the end of the Pro Football Hall of Fame website

976
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 5: and they got a list of the fifty people that vote,

977
00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,960
Speaker 5: and I just, off the top of my head started

978
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 5: counting guys that would have been covering the NFL when

979
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 5: Woody was playing for those thirteen years.

980
00:52:57,880 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 7: And what was the number.

981
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 5: I got to, thirty eight out of fifty, and some

982
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 5: of them I didn't recognize, so they could have been,

983
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,520
Speaker 5: but for sure thirty eight.

984
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 4: So it's not like he's unknown, right right.

985
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:16,400
Speaker 5: It's not like there's somebody that's thirty five years old voting.

986
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:19,319
Speaker 5: So I just don't get it.

987
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, guy, the anti cowboy the bias is there.

988
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 6: You can say what you want to say, because every

989
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 6: time he loses, every time he doesn't get in to me,

990
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 6: it just strengthens that theory.

991
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,480
Speaker 7: So remind me, what is the eligibility going forward?

992
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,439
Speaker 3: It's the for him for the modern day, you get

993
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:41,480
Speaker 3: twenty years of chances after you have to be retired

994
00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 3: for five years and then your twenty year clock starts

995
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: from there. And so he's been retired.

996
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,439
Speaker 4: So twenty five years after retire, Yeah, and.

997
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 3: Then you move into the sor home with everything.

998
00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 5: So you're a dark bell.

999
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:05,400
Speaker 3: Where the senior citizen class and then the senior citizens

1000
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 3: like ever soon they get nominated. They've actually expanded that

1001
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 3: a little bit here where they like they had three

1002
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:18,240
Speaker 3: candidates this year out of the senior citizens and the contributors,

1003
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 3: and before it was just one. And so ever since

1004
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,279
Speaker 3: fell victim to that for a little bit for the

1005
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 3: first thirty years that he was a senior citizen and.

1006
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 4: Then I'm visiting a knife in my hands.

1007
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 5: I mean before they called it senior, I think they

1008
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 5: called it old timers.

1009
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 4: That accurate.

1010
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 3: So what he is four years away now from uh

1011
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 3: not being even considered in the modern day. So and

1012
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: he's up against Rodney Harrison, right, I mean, it's a

1013
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 3: long gym there right now. As far as the safety position,

1014
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 3: goes with Rodney Harrison and who was it? There was

1015
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: one of them. I can't remember who it was. Who

1016
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: is who got in this year? I think he was

1017
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 3: in a log gym like that and he just called.

1018
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 3: He just let the committee know that, Hey put that

1019
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 3: guy in. Okay, the guy he was up against. So

1020
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 3: if we if what he said called and said, go ahead,

1021
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 3: put Rodney Harrison in, that'll clear the logjam. And then

1022
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:25,920
Speaker 3: Harrison would go in one year, and then what he

1023
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,360
Speaker 3: would go in the next year, even though what he

1024
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:28,440
Speaker 3: deserves to go in for him?

1025
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,240
Speaker 4: But I do I think that anyway?

1026
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:37,720
Speaker 5: Well, I mean Dion Sanders couldn't say enough about him.

1027
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 3: It's it's like the committee sits there and they say, okay,

1028
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 3: they're not looking at they're looking at positions. Well, we

1029
00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 3: can't have two safeties go in the same year you

1030
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 3: want to have, right?

1031
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:47,799
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1032
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean even in the modern day, I don't

1033
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,439
Speaker 6: think there was one defensive back, right, there wasn't a dB.

1034
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 6: So how dare we go without putting the dB in?

1035
00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 6: I mean, he got all kinds of statements you can make, right.

1036
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,200
Speaker 5: And and they they shouldn't call him a safety, should

1037
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 5: be defensive back guy.

1038
00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:09,839
Speaker 3: You know what position he'd played. Now, he'd be playing linebackers.

1039
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 5: The Cowboys.

1040
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,520
Speaker 3: He was six pounds playing I mean he's yeah, I

1041
00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:24,640
Speaker 3: mean he literally which is a testament to his versatility.

1042
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,280
Speaker 3: He could play that position, he can play in the slot,

1043
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 3: he can play deep safety, could play all.

1044
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 5: Those and he did right, and he did right every year.

1045
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 5: It's like what he was like, okay, a special teams

1046
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 5: and Ariazano would not take them off special teams. Finally

1047
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 5: they moved him to what's the guy way out on

1048
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 5: the edge on the kickoff team, the nine, the nine

1049
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: spot or whatever. So he's kind of.

1050
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 6: The guy, the safety guy, the safety, he's basically the

1051
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 6: safety that yeah, that's the safety. Yeah, last guy back,

1052
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,879
Speaker 6: he's the guy next to you. You know, he's got

1053
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,440
Speaker 6: everything and then you just clean up anything cost.

1054
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 5: Finally he pushed him out there. But this guy is

1055
00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 5: playing fifty snap sixty snaps.

1056
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 6: The only reason I'm sure what he didn't really care

1057
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 6: about that part.

1058
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 4: You don't kickoff, you kind of get a warm up,

1059
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: yeah yeah, so when they run down there, you get

1060
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 4: a warm.

1061
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 3: Especially these days, you just running down the feeling the

1062
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,680
Speaker 3: balls going down the end zone, and so you look

1063
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 3: real good running out the field.

1064
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 5: And that's why, that's why I get a kick out

1065
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 5: of those guys kickoff coverage that you know, the balls

1066
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 5: kicked out of the end zone and here they come

1067
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 5: charging all the way.

1068
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:40,080
Speaker 4: The good ball's been inought. I saw that last night.

1069
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,040
Speaker 5: We made a joke about everybody.

1070
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,760
Speaker 4: She was running like, OK, who is this guy? What

1071
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 4: is he going?

1072
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:48,640
Speaker 3: Henning?

1073
00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 4: He did, he was.

1074
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 3: He knew that was his super Bowl, was going for it.

1075
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 3: It was his fifteen seconds of things.

1076
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 5: Oh, I was gonna since you mentioned, I don't know

1077
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 5: if you guys saw this. So it was on CBS

1078
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 5: what that before the pregame stuff started. They did an

1079
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 5: ode to the original NFL Today with Brett Musburger. It

1080
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 5: was really looking live, Yes, yeah it was. And they

1081
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 5: told the whole story about Jimmy the Greek and Philip

1082
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:25,160
Speaker 5: George across Jane Kennedy.

1083
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 4: It was.

1084
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 3: It was.

1085
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 5: It was super Uh it was a half hour, half hour.

1086
00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 5: It could have been longer. I don't know. I watched

1087
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 5: the whole thing.

1088
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: I think it brought.

1089
00:58:35,320 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 15: It was like the first black female, yes probably yeah,

1090
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 15: and Cross was the first Philadelphical. Don Perkins was in

1091
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 15: the Cowboys ring of honor. He went straight from playing

1092
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 15: when he retired in sixty eight or so to a network.

1093
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 5: Position after games.

1094
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 3: I think was he doing games? He wasn't so Cross

1095
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 3: was the first studio, but I do remember Don Perkins

1096
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 3: being in the studio some but yes, yeah, and then

1097
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 3: Miss America pageant.

1098
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 5: Basically she ended up marrying the governor from Kentucky Brown,

1099
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 5: John Brown maybe or whatever and any and then she

1100
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 5: left to do something else, and they hired Jane Kennedy

1101
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,080
Speaker 5: and kept her for three or four years and then

1102
00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,280
Speaker 5: let her go because Phyllis wanted to come back. She

1103
00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 5: wasn't very happy about it.

1104
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: He came to grantline.

1105
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 5: Oh really, we were crazy.

1106
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 4: I was seventeen years old. I was like, wow, this

1107
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,760
Speaker 4: is good stuff.

1108
00:59:40,840 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: Phillis George from North Texas.

1109
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 5: North Texas, right, but yeah it was. If anybody can

1110
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 5: find it, go watch it. It was really good.

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Speaker 3: All right, we got one minute left. But there's here

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Speaker 3: some food for thought as far as the Chiefs are concerned.

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Speaker 3: The Chiefs right now, I think are where the Cowboys

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Speaker 3: were in nineteen ninety five. Going into nineteen ninety six,

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Speaker 3: Cowboys had just won back to back Super Bowls. Three

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Speaker 3: Super Bowls in the last four years, and the team

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Speaker 3: is breaking up because free agency had just started. Whatever, Well,

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Speaker 3: Kansas City is sitting there. They've won back to back

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Speaker 3: Super Bowls, They've won three Super Bowls in the last

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Speaker 3: five years. Mahomes about the same age as what aateman

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Speaker 3: was at that point in his career. And now let's

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Speaker 3: see what Kansas City does going forward. And from a

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Speaker 3: free agency standpoint, they got not only the Mahomes contract,

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Speaker 3: They've got Chris Jones, who's up now and keeping this

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Speaker 3: thing together. It's going to be very interesting going forward

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Speaker 3: if they how much longer, even though they've got Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 3: because the Cowboys had Troy Yiateman once upon a time

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Speaker 3: in nineteen ninety five, and it's very difficult to keep

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Speaker 3: this thing together.

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Speaker 5: And they need help on their offensive line. And Kelsey

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Speaker 5: is not getting any young ye by the way, I.

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Speaker 3: Don't mean there's a retirement talk about him, you know,

1133
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,919
Speaker 3: and there's retirement talk about Andy Reid, and.

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Speaker 5: So he put it and do it. It sounded like, well, I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not talking immediate yet in the next yeah, So it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be very interesting.

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Speaker 4: I can care less about what the hell they.

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Speaker 7: Do the Cowboys going to ordinator.

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Speaker 6: As of today. I'm done with their asses. I'm talking

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Speaker 6: about Cowboys.

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Speaker 5: In February nineteenth and we'll pick up there right, we're turning.

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Speaker 7: The leaf, right.

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Speaker 3: Congratulations to you, Dallas Texans and now the Dallas Cowboy

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Speaker 3: when we come back next time here on mix Shots.

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Speaker 4: Oh Cowboys.

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