1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:00,840 Speaker 1: Can't. 2 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 2: I am six forty you're listening to the John Cobel 3 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 2: podcast on the iHeartRadio app. It's good you're here. We 4 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: got to get right to it. There's so much, so 5 00:00:10,760 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: much to share. We're on every day from three till six. 6 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 2: Now three until six. We're back in our old time slot. 7 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:19,640 Speaker 2: Conways on from six to ten. And if you miss anything, 8 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,639 Speaker 2: you go to the podcast. We released that shortly after 9 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: six o'clock on the iHeartRadio app and it's just like 10 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 2: the radio show and you can pick up on whatever 11 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 2: you missed. Yesterday, the big story was the Los Angeles 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: Unified School District Superintendent Alberto Carvallo got raided at his 13 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: home in San Pedro and also at his office in 14 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: downtown Los Angeles. He's had a shady past, but he 15 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:50,959 Speaker 2: was hired anyway, and now the idiots who hired him, 16 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 2: the LA School Board, is having an emergency meeting this 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 2: afternoon to figure out what to do. It seems like 18 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 2: Jennifer Van laur who is the managing editor of the 19 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: RedState dot com, and she has had more detail than 20 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 2: anybody in fleshing out this story. So we're going to 21 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 2: go to Jennifer right now. And see why he was 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 2: likely rated and what his legal future is. Jennifer, how are. 23 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: You pretty good? How about you good? 24 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,440 Speaker 2: I have been reading all your posts at RedState dot 25 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: com and the tweets you're sending out on x. It's 26 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: quite a story you're building. Tell us, tell everybody what 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 2: you know. 28 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 3: Wow, it's quite a mess. There are a few different 29 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: angles of it. So we know that Carbo's home was 30 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 3: raided and his office and then the home of this 31 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: Deborah Kerr in Florida, who has known Carvalho for over 32 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 3: fifteen years and worked with him on various initiatives in Miami. 33 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 3: So she was the woman who basically brought this AI 34 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: chatbot contract to lausd her Son is listed as the 35 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: person who pitched it to Carbajo, but she claims that 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: she has owed six hundred and thirty thousand dollars in 37 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 3: commission for that sale. 38 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 4: This is an AI chatbot, yes, and. 39 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: It was named ED Thanks for education? 40 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 2: Get it? 41 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 4: Oh? 42 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw that yesterday. I was going why would 43 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,640 Speaker 2: they name this ED? So ED the chatbot? They paid 44 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 2: six million dollars for this thing, all right? So how 45 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: has this gone wrong? 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 3: A couple of ways. So, first, it was doing things 47 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 3: like sending all of the students protected information to servers 48 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: all around the world, even though there are data policies 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: that it's supposed to all stay in the United States. 50 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: And part of the reason it was doing that it 51 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:47,799 Speaker 3: was really weirdly set up. So say you're a mom 52 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 3: and you have three kids in LAUSD and you want 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,359 Speaker 3: ed to tell you their class schedule. Well, this chatbot 54 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: would search all of your kids info their entire files 55 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 3: at la USD to give you the information on that 56 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 3: one kid schedule. So if you think about that, all 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,240 Speaker 3: of that information going to all these servers are all 58 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: around the world and not very good privacy and security practices. 59 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 3: It's just the hackers haven for all this information. So 60 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: that was one problem. Then the other problem is the 61 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 3: company went bankrupt before the thing was fully launched to 62 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 3: all of LAUSD. 63 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: And so the six million went down the tubes. 64 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: Well three million of it was paid, and then of 65 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: course they didn't pay more. But the thing was like, 66 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: this company was not in the business of developing AI 67 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: chat bots. They had like a text response system that 68 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 3: would send parents text if their kids had excessive absences 69 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 3: and that kind of thing, But that's far different than 70 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 3: an AI chatbot that has access to over five hundred 71 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 3: thousand students files and all of the school schedules and 72 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 3: all of that information. And so someone and I think 73 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 3: the FBI is probably looking into how this came about. 74 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 3: Someone came up with the great idea that this company 75 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 3: named all here would develop this chatbot for LAUSD from scratch, 76 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: and then if other school systems decided to use it 77 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 3: after that, then LAUSD would basically get royalties, kickbacks, however 78 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 3: you want to describe it, on everything else that these 79 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: other schools did. So Carvajo went around the country with 80 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: Joanna Smith Griffin, who was the CEO that bankrupted the 81 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 3: company promoting it, and then she gets indicted for securities fraud, 82 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 3: wire fraud, and identity theft for basically bilking investors at 83 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: about ten to twelve million dollars. 84 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: Ten to twelve million dollars she'd built for investors. She 85 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: didn't come through with all the promises she was. 86 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 3: Claiming, no she and then the identity theft part is 87 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 3: when she impersonated when investors started or potential investors started 88 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 3: asking questions saying, these numbers you're giving me in the 89 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: incitation don't add up. He created a whole new email 90 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 3: address and identity for some kind of financial consultant, held 91 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 3: herself out as a financial consultant for the company to 92 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 3: these investors, to lie and to say that they had 93 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 3: more contracts than they had and lie about their revenue. 94 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: And Carvallo was the public face selling this. You write 95 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: that he gave a twenty minute speech promoting this technology 96 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 2: at Arizona State University Global Silicon Valley Summit back in 97 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, So that was his role in this scheme. 98 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,479 Speaker 3: Yes, and he was very I mean I watched about 99 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 3: ten minutes of it and I couldn't stomach anymore. But 100 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 3: he was very flowery about how this was going to 101 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: help all of these underserved students, and especially students who 102 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 3: didn't speak English, their family didn't speak English, and they're 103 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 3: just going to be this game changer. And that's great 104 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 3: that it was really going to help. But he have 105 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 3: the ulterior motive of wanting to that to help so 106 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 3: that LAUSD could get the kickbacks, which I don't necessarily 107 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 3: have a problem with, but it seems they might be 108 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 3: looking at him maybe getting some of these kickbacks. And 109 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 3: also his role if he knew that this company when 110 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 3: he gave that presentation, they were already laying off staff 111 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: because the company was going down, all right, And if 112 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 3: he was talking about this and basically thoft pitching it 113 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 3: to potential investors and knew that, you know, he could 114 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 3: get in trouble too. 115 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 2: Right, And when you talk about kickbacks, you're talking about 116 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,840 Speaker 2: he's getting some of the money that investors had put 117 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 2: in and he'd. 118 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: Get some Well that's the theory. We don't have any 119 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 3: confirmation of that yet. 120 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. 121 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 2: Well, I was going to ask you what is the 122 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 2: potential crime that they're looking into. Have you heard or 123 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 2: is there something obvious here well having to. 124 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 3: Do with with fraud and that, and from what my 125 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 3: reading of about twenty different articles about the bankruptcy last night, 126 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 3: that it could possibly have to do with a plot 127 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: to basically bring this transaction to LAUSC that he knew 128 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: that the company wasn't capable of executing on and maybe 129 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 3: a little bit of pay to play going on there 130 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: right now. 131 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 2: You also found out that he and his wife own 132 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: a lot of real estate. They have many homes. Talk 133 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: about that. 134 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: Part they do. They have five homes in Miami, two 135 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: of them are luxury condominiums, right on the water there 136 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 3: one is a penthouse, then a two point five or 137 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 3: two point six million dollar home in Miami Shores. Then 138 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 3: of course they're one point four I believe one point 139 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 3: five million dollar house in San Pedro. But I do 140 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 3: have to say that on the one of them in Miami, 141 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: they got about a million dollars of appreciation during COVID 142 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 3: when all of the people from California moved to Florida 143 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 3: and drove up the prices there. But that's still a 144 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: lot of real estate to have. It's about six point 145 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 3: three million dollars worth of real estate. And what he 146 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 3: was making in Miami was about three twenty five pay 147 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 3: a year and it's four. 148 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: Forty here right, all right, so this is all coming together. 149 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: So the name of the company is all here, and 150 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 2: the former CEO is Joanna Smith Griffin. She's being prosecuted 151 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: for securities fraud, wirefraud, identity theft, as you said, And 152 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: she had Carvallo acting as the face of it, appearing 153 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: publicly trying to get investors to throw in millions of dollars, 154 00:08:37,000 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 2: which they did, about ten million dollars in funds. And 155 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 2: this this chatbot didn't even work very well and then 156 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 2: they were using it to send students private information that 157 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 2: was ending up on servers all around the world, right, 158 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:55,080 Speaker 2: and that. 159 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: Could potentially be a very big problem with privacy laws 160 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,760 Speaker 3: in the state. I've heard rumblings that some of the 161 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 3: legislaters in Sacramento are wanting to look into how that's happened, 162 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 3: because of course we don't want children's information all around 163 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 3: the globe. 164 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 4: Right. 165 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: So now the superintendent, well, I mean his job is 166 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 2: up in the air right now because the board is 167 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: having an emergency meeting. Do you hear what's likely to 168 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: happen on that front? It just seems like he'd have 169 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: to be taking a temporary leave of absence. 170 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would expect that at least that's going to happen. 171 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: It was really telling when this raid happened yesterday that 172 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 3: LAUSC didn't just come out slamming the federal agents because 173 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: there was a lot of people who just thought that 174 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: it was having to do with immigration or because Carvalho 175 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: has been resisting the immigration enforcement and they just came 176 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 3: right out and said, oh, we don't know what's really 177 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 3: going on, but we're cooperating. So the fact that they 178 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 3: didn't hit back, I think says a lot. 179 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 2: All right, well, Jennifer, great work that you've done in 180 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,200 Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. Thank you, Thank you very 181 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,720 Speaker 2: much for coming on, and we'll talk again as this develops. Great, 182 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 2: all right, Jennifer van Laher. She's the managing editor for 183 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 2: RedState dot com and you just heard her layout. It's 184 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: it's around. The scandal is about a chatbot named ed 185 00:10:16,559 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: ed the chatbot and a lot of fraud connected to ed, 186 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 2: and it's already led to a felony prosecution for the 187 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: CEO of the company that created ed. All here and 188 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:32,439 Speaker 2: uh Carvallo is deeply involved in the company as well. 189 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 2: We've got more about this matter coming up. 190 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 191 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 5: six forty. 192 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's show, and coming up after three thirty, we're 193 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 2: gonna have to Tom Lackey on. He's a Republican assemblyman 194 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:52,320 Speaker 2: out of Palmdale, and the Republicans are presenting an idea 195 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 2: that one of the big the biggest gas texts gets 196 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 2: suspended for a year because as of today, we are 197 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: paying four sixty four a gallon four sixty four a gallon, 198 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 2: and the average across the country is two ninety eight, 199 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 2: and we have a whopper of a basic gas tax 200 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 2: of seventy one cents a gallon, and the Republicans are saying, 201 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 2: how about a break for a year, because that that 202 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: comes out, you know, about seven hundred dollars a year 203 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 2: for an average, an average driver and of course people 204 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 2: who have long drives and a lot too. Here in 205 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: California it's you know, over one thousand dollars. So how 206 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 2: about a tax break? Why are we paying for sixty four? 207 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 2: And in Oklahoma they're paying two dollars and forty cents 208 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 2: and the average is two eighty nine. And there's thirty 209 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: eight states, thirty eight states paying under three dollars right now. 210 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 2: So we're going to talk with Tom Lackey about that 211 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 2: coming up, Jeff to follow up at Alberto Carvallo. We 212 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:00,600 Speaker 2: just had Jennifer Van Laurn and he she is the 213 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: managing editor of RedState dot com and she's done a 214 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 2: tremendous amount of research, getting a lot of detail that 215 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 2: I haven't seen anywhere else. You know, there's well sedge 216 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 2: of school district is a wash in money. You may 217 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 2: hear teachers complaining that they're not paid enough, and you 218 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 2: hear the school board whining that they don't have enough 219 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: revenue to cover the teacher demands. They're all full of it. 220 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 2: The teachers are getting paid very well, especially since test 221 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: scores are abysmal or horrific. Most kids they leave high 222 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 2: school and they do not meet the proficiency standard for 223 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: reading and about two thirds don't meet the proficiency standard 224 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: for math. Okay, so the product coming out of LA 225 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 2: Public schools, it stinks. The educational product stinks. The teachers 226 00:12:57,160 --> 00:13:01,199 Speaker 2: are well paid by any measure, and they're a wash 227 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 2: in money at LAUSD. And I went looking today. Do 228 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 2: you know, do you know what peak enrollment was for 229 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 2: the Los Angeles School District? 230 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: Listen to this. 231 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 2: In two thousand and five, In two thousand and four, 232 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: let's say peak enrollment seven hundred and fifty thousand kids, 233 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 2: seven hundred and fifty thousand in two thousand and four. 234 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: You don't know what it is today, three hundred and 235 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 2: ninety thousand. We went from seven hundred and fifty thousand 236 00:13:38,760 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: to three hundred and ninety thousand. That's a huge drop 237 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 2: because much of the public gave up on sending their 238 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 2: kids to LA Public schools because they stink, and the 239 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 2: proof is in the test scores. And then I thought, well, okay, 240 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: that's the enrollment. It's down almost by fifty percent. Right, 241 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 2: that's almost a fifty percent drop. What's their budget? Their 242 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: budget in let's go back ten years to twenty fifteen 243 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 2: six billion dollars. Now it's eighteen billion, So they have 244 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: three times as much money in the last ten years 245 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: with only half the students from twenty years ago. How 246 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 2: does that work? How do you end up with triple 247 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: the budget when you have half the students? What do 248 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: you think is going on? It's like the homeless money. 249 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: How do you end up with more money after spending 250 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: How do you end up with more homeless after getting 251 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 2: tens of billions of dollars. 252 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 4: In homeless money? What happened? Oh? It was stolen. 253 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 2: So either there's a lot lot of school money being 254 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 2: stolen at the Los Angeles Unified School District, and I'm 255 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: sure there is because this is inexplicable. You got half 256 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 2: the students, she got triple the budget. The test score stink. 257 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:15,200 Speaker 1: Well. 258 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 2: One thing is when you have that much money gushing around, 259 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: people have it. They want to spend it on something. 260 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: So it looks like, oh, Berto Carvallo decided he was 261 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: going to blow six million dollars on ed the chatbot, 262 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 2: and he found a company that he could hook up 263 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: with called all Here. The CEO Joanna Smith Griffin. Well, 264 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 2: he and Joanna raised ten million dollars in funds from investors. 265 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: He was doing a lot of the cheerleading. She's now 266 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 2: being prosecuted for securities fraud, wire fraud, and aggravated identity 267 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: theft because the product ever worked. She whipped up all 268 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 2: this enthusiasm, got all this money, and where'd all the 269 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: money go? And Carvallo is a part of this. And 270 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: the FBI rated the Florida home of Deborah Kerr. She 271 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 2: is a salesperson connected to Carvallo. She's the one who 272 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 2: helped land the six million dollar LA contract for the 273 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 2: company All Here. 274 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 4: So that's how all stitches together. They're gushing money. 275 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 2: They have half the students they used to, They got 276 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 2: at least triple a budget. Everybody screams poverty to the 277 00:16:32,560 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: public who most people don't know any better, and they're 278 00:16:35,320 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 2: blowing money on side deals here and the chatbot. This 279 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 2: is going to be a good one, all right. When 280 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,160 Speaker 2: we come back, Tom Lackey will be on with us. 281 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 2: Tom Lackey's Republican Assemblyman. Why the hell's the rest of 282 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 2: the country paying on average two ninety eight a gallon 283 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 2: and we're paying four to sixty four a gallon. Well, 284 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 2: a lot of the story is our gas taxes. The 285 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 2: biggest gas tax seventy one cents a gallon, the Republican Assement. 286 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: We want to repeal it for a year. Give everybody 287 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,280 Speaker 2: a break. We'll talk to Tom Lackey. 288 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 4: Next. 289 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobel's on demand from KFI AM 290 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 5: six forty. 291 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's Show. We're on every day from three until six, 292 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: and then after six o'clock we have the podcast John 293 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: Cobel's Show on demand. It's same as the radio show, 294 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: and you could listen to whatever you missed. Often, I 295 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 2: give the gas price update because I don't know what's 296 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 2: wrong with people in California. They seem to be unaware 297 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: that we stand by ourselves when it comes to insane 298 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: gas prices. Right now, the national average is two dollars 299 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: and ninety eight cents, and Oklahoma has the lowest prices 300 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: at two forty three. In fact, there's thirty eight states 301 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: that are below three bucks a gallon thirty eight and 302 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 2: then the most expensive state and by a good amount 303 00:17:57,760 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: California at four sixty three. Much of the difference is taxes. 304 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: And now Republican lawmakers I've written a bill that would 305 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 2: suspend the main tax sixty one cents a gallon at 306 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 2: the pump, and they're offering this up for a vote. 307 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,400 Speaker 2: And we're going to talk to Tom Lackey, Republican Assemblymen 308 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 2: at a Palmdale. He's one of the big supporters. Tom. 309 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 4: How are you hey, I'm doing great. 310 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: How are you, sir? 311 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,040 Speaker 2: I'm good. Good to have you back on the show. 312 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 2: First thing is go through what this bill proposes. 313 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Okay, well, this is a very pragmatic bill that I 314 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: think most your listeners would be excited to hear. As 315 00:18:40,280 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: you indicated, currently we pay about seventy one cents a 316 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: California per gallon one, yeah, about seventy one cents. That's 317 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 1: what this bill addresses, that seventy one cents per gallon. 318 00:18:54,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: And what the proposal brings forward is that we would 319 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: pause this gas tax for one year, and in that savings, 320 00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: we would make sure that the middlemen can't keep the savings. Refineries, 321 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 1: distributors or gas stations would be legally required to pass 322 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: the full tax savings down to the drivers at the pump. 323 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: Receives from the receipts that you would get at the 324 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: pump would show that savings, and the gas stations would 325 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: have to print your receipt on how much you'd been charged, 326 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: so you could clearly see and trust that it's actually happening. 327 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: And it's a very pragmatic thing that needs to happen 328 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:45,560 Speaker 1: because families are really struggling with this additional cost, and 329 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: they're not debating policy, they're deciding whether to fill the 330 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: tank or fill the fridge, and it's a real serious difficulty. 331 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: Right off the top, you'd be saving people about fourteen 332 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 2: dollars on a tank of gas, averaging you know, twenty 333 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 2: gallon tank and cars and people use about a tank 334 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 2: of gas a week, so you're you're talking about fourteen 335 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 2: dollars saved every week, fifty two weeks a year. That's 336 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,600 Speaker 2: over seven hundred dollars of a tax break, which which 337 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 2: will go a long way for a lot of families. 338 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: Well even some of the people where I represent, they 339 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: drive even further than that, and they fill up even 340 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 1: more often than that, So it would be even a 341 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 1: greater savings, right, because the more well you want to 342 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: the further you have to drive. 343 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 2: And I mean it's when I look at the list. 344 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 2: I mean I always go to the tripaa dot com site. 345 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: They have a state by state gas price chart, and 346 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 2: I look at the vast majority of states, about three 347 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 2: quarters of them gas starts with a two, and then 348 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: down at the bottom is California at four to sixty three. 349 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 2: And we're about twenty five cents more than Hawaii, which is, 350 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: you know, thousands of miles out in the ocean, so 351 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 2: they've got very high transportation costs, and we still beat 352 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 2: them by a quarter. 353 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: And I'm just are people aware of this? 354 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,119 Speaker 2: Because I would think price is this high that would 355 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 2: cause a lot of people to run into the streets 356 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 2: and you would see a political earthquake. 357 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 4: Are they not aware of this? 358 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: Well, they feel trapped because every trip to the funk 359 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: feels like a penalty for going to work. And I 360 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: find it to be discouraging that we as legislators don't 361 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 1: really address that in the way that it meaningfully deserves 362 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: to be addressed. And this is a very pragmatic approach 363 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: and it's experimental, so let's let's see whether the benefit 364 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: weighs the cost. 365 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm this particular gas tax. It's the main gas tax. 366 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 2: I know, there are a lot of taxes that go 367 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,080 Speaker 2: into the price. You know, there's climate change taxes. So 368 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,680 Speaker 2: this this what is this money used for? 369 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 4: If anything, it's for roads. 370 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 1: It's primarily for road construction and maintenance and those kinds 371 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: of things. As you know, California believes, and haw's the 372 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: perspective that road dieting is what we should do, and 373 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: public transportation should be where we should be enhancing. But 374 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 1: when you live in a rural community, that's not an option. 375 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,080 Speaker 1: So it's not what they're encouraging. Doesn't apply to rural communities, 376 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,800 Speaker 1: and that's we're carrying the extra baggage for all the 377 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: people in the urban environment. 378 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:37,880 Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you in Los Angeles, mass transit does 379 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,320 Speaker 2: not work at all. I mean, I think ninety nine 380 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: percent of the public that I'm aware of has to 381 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 2: take a car. I mean, I go from the West 382 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 2: side of Los Angeles to Burbank back every day. It 383 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: is not possible to take mass transit between those two points. 384 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: It just doesn't exist. Unless I wanted to spend four 385 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,879 Speaker 2: hours taking three different buses, and I don't know how 386 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: that would even work impossible because it is so you know, 387 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 2: everybody has to use the car around here. And as 388 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 2: far as road construction and maintenance, I'll take you on 389 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 2: a drive like down Interstate five into downtown LA. It 390 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: hasn't been done in decades. I don't know where the 391 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 2: money's going, but the roads here are. I mean, Afghanistan 392 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 2: would be ashamed to have roads like we have in 393 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 2: a lot of LA County. 394 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,479 Speaker 4: It's terrible. 395 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 1: I can tell you that I just recently made a 396 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:42,439 Speaker 1: trip to Florida and I compared the conditions of roadways there. 397 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: They actually take it seriously there. It is very very 398 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: The roads were very nice, a lot, smoother lot, and 399 00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: the weather's pretty much the same as what we have. 400 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: And so I don't understand why our roads are so inferior, 401 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: but they certainly are. I mean, considering all very obvious. 402 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: Considering all the corruption that we're finding out in the state, 403 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 2: I wonder where all this gas tax money is going, 404 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 2: because it's not going for the roads. Going by my eyesight, 405 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 2: I don't see it, and I suspect that there's a 406 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: lot of money being diverted to a lot of nonsense 407 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 2: and a lot of criminal activity. 408 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: It's got to be that's clearly a point well taken 409 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:28,120 Speaker 1: that deserves to be researched. It really does. It deserves. 410 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: People deserve to know when they're paying so much of 411 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: their paycheck for this expectation, is it really happening, Because 412 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: it doesn't. It's not obvious to the driver. It's not 413 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: obvious to me, that's for sure. 414 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: All right, So kind of silly question. Are the Democrats 415 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: interested in this idea at all? 416 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,159 Speaker 1: Not not near enough of them. I'm hoping that we 417 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 1: can make the point. But if you don't bring it up, 418 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: it definitely isn't going to pass. So we at least 419 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: have got to bring it up, start talking about it, 420 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: and have constituents called the representatives. Unfortunately, a lot of 421 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 1: the rural representatives are the people of my party, and 422 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,000 Speaker 1: so the preaching of the choir. 423 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: I'm telling you, you got to let people know, you 424 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 2: got to let people know this is not going on 425 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,359 Speaker 2: at all in the rest of the country. All forty 426 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,680 Speaker 2: nine other states have lower taxes, and that even includes 427 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:25,400 Speaker 2: because I got the whole list in front of me here, 428 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 2: what are considered left wing states like New Jersey is 429 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 2: two dollars and ninety two cents. New York is three 430 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 2: dollars right on the nose. Illinois is three to three. 431 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:38,800 Speaker 2: These are the most liberal states in the country outside 432 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,040 Speaker 2: of California, and they're paying at three bucks. 433 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: A gallon or slightly below. So it's not a thing 434 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 4: where the world. 435 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:49,560 Speaker 1: Right is Know what you said for sixty four, Yeah, 436 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: we're at. 437 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 4: For sixty four. 438 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 2: Now how are we at for sixty four in the 439 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 2: state of New York, you know, is at three bucks 440 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 2: right on the nose. 441 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: It's just crazy. 442 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,360 Speaker 1: Well, it doesn't smell right. 443 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 4: No, smells very bad. 444 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 2: And you know, then you get you get to some 445 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: of the southern states and they're down in the two fifties, 446 00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 2: Louisiana and Mississippi and Tennessee and Arkansas all. 447 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,199 Speaker 4: The two fifties. Texas is a two sixty. 448 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 2: I mean, if people knew about this stuff, I'm convinced 449 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: nobody does. I might be the only one who looks 450 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 2: at the state by state price average every day. 451 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 4: Listen, I wish you had luck. 452 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 2: Tom Lackey, assemblyman up in Palmdale, Republican, thank you for 453 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,959 Speaker 2: writing this bill. And if you want to talk more 454 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 2: about it on the air, just let us know, okay. 455 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: Well, in all fairness, it's actually the authors. Some of 456 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: them are Jeff Gonzales and it's Assembly Bill seventeen forty five. 457 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: If your people would like to follow up with them. 458 00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 2: All right, Tom Lackey, thank you, all right, thank you, 459 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 2: all right, and we've got more coming up. 460 00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI. 461 00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: You follow us on social media at John Cobelt Radio, 462 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: at John Cobelt Radio and social media. 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Because Hillary Clinton. 472 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 2: Had to testify under oath at a closed congressional hearing, 473 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: which was suddenly stopped because one of the congress women 474 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 2: took a sneaky photo and put it out on the 475 00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 2: internet in showing Clinton testify, and that pissed her off 476 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 2: and things stopped. And Eric, I'm gonna send you a 477 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: clip I just found because Hillary abruptly ended a question 478 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 2: and answer with the press when she was asked about Epstein, 479 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 2: And so we'll play that as well. It's highly entertaining. 480 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 2: We just had Tom Lackey on. He's an assemblyman at 481 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 2: a Palmdale and a Republican, and the Republicans behind Jeff Gonzalez, 482 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,680 Speaker 2: another assemblyman, have this radical idea that how about we 483 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 2: suspend the main gas tax for a year at seventy 484 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 2: one cents a gallon because our gas prices have gone 485 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: up I think about forty five cents in the last month, 486 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 2: and the rest of the country it's gone up a dime. 487 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 2: And it's huge increases. And we've told you why, I 488 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 2: guess we have to keep telling you, is that the 489 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: major oil companies are shutting down refineries left and right. 490 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 2: We used to have forty three in the state. We're 491 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 2: down to a out seven and from what I understand, 492 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 2: two of those seven don't even refine gasoline. They do biodiesel, 493 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 2: So we're really down to five gasoline refineries, and again 494 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,200 Speaker 2: we used to have over forty and so now there's 495 00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 2: a huge shortage of oil and gasoline where the oil 496 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: companies can't pump it at Bakersfield. They're largely not allowed to. 497 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: And now we're shipping in refined gasoline from all over 498 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: the world through the Bahamas, which is really expensive. And 499 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 2: overall there are more greenhouse gases, far more greenhouse gases 500 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: going into the air doing. 501 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 4: It that way. 502 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 2: But we have just an idiotic, absolutely moronic, idiotic gas 503 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: and oil policy here in California. And Tom Lackey talked 504 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 2: about how mass transit in rural areas is not an option. 505 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: People have long drives and they end up paying well 506 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 2: over one thousand dollars extra a year in gas taxes. 507 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: And you know, I said to them, it's like, it's 508 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: not so easy being inside the city of Los Angeles because, 509 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: like I said, I go from the West Side to Burbank. 510 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: I have the slightest idea how you do that without 511 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 2: driving a car. It's just impossible. And a lot of 512 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: people live in the valley and live north of the 513 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 2: valley around Santa Clarita, and they work in La on 514 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 2: the west side or they work in Orange County. I mean, 515 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 2: I see the traffic every day. There are no transit 516 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 2: lines to handle that. It's impossible. So along those lines, 517 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 2: The California Post their editorial board did an editorial. There's 518 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 2: a new study from Unleashed Prosperity and finds that nearly 519 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,880 Speaker 2: every major metro area in the country, public transit market 520 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,920 Speaker 2: share has dropped sharply, even though spending is way up. 521 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,960 Speaker 2: So they're spending way more on public transit, but the 522 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:03,640 Speaker 2: number of people using public transit has dropped dramatically. In fact, 523 00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 2: since nineteen sixty, transit spending is up sixfold across the country, sixfold, 524 00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 2: but the percentage of commuters who actually take buses and 525 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 2: trains has fallen by two thirds. And I see this 526 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: every day. I got a Santa Monic, gonna stop at 527 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: the Bago shop. There's buses blown by me on Wilshire Boulevard. 528 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 2: They're all empty except for some drug addict homeless person 529 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 2: sitting balled up in the back. They're all empty. They 530 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 2: spend the day. Some of these homeless people are getting 531 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 2: like private buses that act as limousines for them, and 532 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: they sit in the bus all day and the drivers 533 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,120 Speaker 2: just take them up and down and up and down 534 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:52,040 Speaker 2: Wilshire Boulevard. Only one out of every twenty five commuters 535 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: uses mass transit one out of twenty five, and in 536 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 2: the largest metro areas, sixty times more jobs are accessible 537 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 2: by car within thirty minutes than by transit. So that's 538 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 2: why people drive, because there's sixty times as many jobs available, 539 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 2: and people who drive along still get to work on 540 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 2: average under thirty minutes. I know a lot of people 541 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: in LA takes quite a bit longer than that, and 542 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 2: they conclude at the end. 543 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 4: It's because you get point to point travel. 544 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: You back out of your driveway, come out of your 545 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 2: apartment complex, and you drive into the parking lot wherever 546 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 2: you work, and there is no bus or subway or 547 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 2: train that's ever going to do that. So this is 548 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: another huge racket. It's costing us billions of dollars, and 549 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 2: very few people use these buses and trains, and these 550 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 2: systems should be dramatically cut back, and so should their funding. 551 00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: But I'm sure there's a massive out of corruption there too, 552 00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 2: just like there is at LAUSD and in the homeless industry, 553 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: in the high speed rail industry, and all of it 554 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 2: all right, we come back. 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