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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: screening live from the Dallas Cowboys World Hours at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco, and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back,

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Speaker 1: heck My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's help. For

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Speaker 1: the first time in twenty twenty one, it is a

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Speaker 1: Victory Monday on Talking Cowboys, presented by Tostitos. The official

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Speaker 1: chip and tip of the Dallas Cowboys is the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: way Ship and dipped out with a win over the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. Twenty to seventeen was the final score

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Speaker 1: on the road as the Cowboys get back to five

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Speaker 1: hundred one and one through two weeks of the NFL season.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about it here over the next couple minutes.

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Speaker 1: We've got Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand Back, kick My Harrison,

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Speaker 1: I'm Kyle Yeomans, and I don't want to waste any

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Speaker 1: time getting our thoughts because this was a gritty win

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Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys, and man, it was beginning to

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Speaker 1: end gritty. It wasn't pretty. You were missing five of

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Speaker 1: your starters. But Rob Phillips. The Cowboys got the job

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Speaker 1: done and they converted when they needed to real quick.

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Speaker 1: I just looking up. The last victory Monday for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys was December on this show was December twenty eight,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. So it's been a wild pellas it's been

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Speaker 1: a while, way too long. Yeah, I'm gonna steal Isaiah's point.

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Speaker 1: We know each other so well doing this show. I

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Speaker 1: think by this point it's a character win for the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys going on the road opposite coast, all the guys

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Speaker 1: that they had missing a real chance of being O

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Speaker 1: and two. I mean, that's a good Charger team. I

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Speaker 1: look forward to seeing a lot of Pat Mahomes justin

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Speaker 1: Herbert battles in the AFC title game in the coming years.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Lamar Jackson has something to say about that, but

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Speaker 1: that's gonna be a team to deal with over the

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Speaker 1: next few years if they continue building right and they

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Speaker 1: found a different way to win this game they than

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Speaker 1: they almost won in Week one, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: a credit to the players obviously, but the coaches as well,

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Speaker 1: specifically Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore, for making adjustments from

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Speaker 1: week one and based off the guys they were missing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean these guys coaches use their personnel, you know,

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Speaker 1: they used the personnel that they had and ensted up.

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Speaker 1: They're making excuses about all we're missing this guy, this

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Speaker 1: guy's down, this guy won't be back for five more weeks,

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Speaker 1: whatever the case may be. They use their personnel. Not

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Speaker 1: only dan Quinn did he do it like we knew

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Speaker 1: he would, right, that's what he got, That's what he does.

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Speaker 1: But Kellen Moore, Kellen Moore is continuing to find ways

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Speaker 1: to get his playmakers the ball. Now people want to

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Speaker 1: argue and say, well, this playmaker is getting paid this much.

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Speaker 1: It's about match ups. This game is all about matchups.

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Speaker 1: You can give the person who has the most, who

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Speaker 1: gets the most money, the most playing time, and all

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Speaker 1: that jazz, But guess what if it results in a loss,

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Speaker 1: then then what is it for? Right, It's about winning games.

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Speaker 1: So if it's if it's about dog On Pollard getting

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Speaker 1: getting the ball more than Zeke that game, and guess what,

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Speaker 1: that's what it takes. You heard Zeke after the game.

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Speaker 1: Whoever has a hot hand, that's who we're rolling with. Defensively,

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons, guess what we dropped him as a linebacker.

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Speaker 1: But guess what else, That boy went down there and

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Speaker 1: played like a dog at defensive end and gave some

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Speaker 1: we need him to have some happy feet, and forced

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Speaker 1: some incompletions overall, special teams. We still got some work

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Speaker 1: to do. We still got some work to do. But

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Speaker 1: great delay. Like I said in the post game show,

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Speaker 1: that boy dusted off that the old old little you know,

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Speaker 1: you know, it just keeps turning right, you know, the

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Speaker 1: old faithful after that, so he was good to go.

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Speaker 1: So overall, great win to sponsor. Ye no idea, No,

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Speaker 1: I love the balance. I love the balance from Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 1: We've talked about him, and the red zone walls solved him.

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Speaker 1: You know, we saw the first two red zones came out,

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Speaker 1: it looked like a healthy balance of this offense. But defensively,

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Speaker 1: you're you're right, dan Quinn was dialing it up. Then

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Speaker 1: he was dialing up the entire game. And you know,

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Speaker 1: good that in necessity you have a player like that

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Speaker 1: get those pressures. We still didn't get the pressure up

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Speaker 1: whe of the things that I think is going to

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Speaker 1: a great win, team win. And Greg the leg boy,

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Speaker 1: I don't think the fifty six yard touchdown was the

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Speaker 1: just happy legatround came through. Yeah, fifty six yard game

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Speaker 1: winning field goal. As time expires to win it twenty

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Speaker 1: we're certainly going to break that down throughout the week,

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with the positives on offense.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you mentioned it. I think both of y'all

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Speaker 1: mentioned it. Balance. We were questioning it going into the week.

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Speaker 1: You can't go into every football game and throw it

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Speaker 1: fifty eight times with Dak Prescott and expect to win.

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Speaker 1: And not only did they have balance, but they share

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Speaker 1: the love. I mean Tony Pollard, sure he had a

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Speaker 1: great game thirteen carries, one hundred and nine yards and

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Speaker 1: last week as well. Talk about CD and his one carry?

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Speaker 1: What if I tell you CD would What's going on?

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Speaker 1: You saw some different looks the play calling? Was there?

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Speaker 1: I thought that was this. I'd have to really think

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Speaker 1: McCarthy mentioned, it was a patient game too. He was

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Speaker 1: You look at the coverage. It was at Tampa's coverage.

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Speaker 1: They played kind of shell stuff playing back and we

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Speaker 1: He actually had three more carries than Pollard, but Pollard

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Speaker 1: just shows you the difference that Zack Martin makes on

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Speaker 1: our offensive line immediately. But my man T Steele. I

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Speaker 1: think we all went in nervous about Terrence Steele, and

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Speaker 1: just saying that big E when he came in Eric Williams,

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Speaker 1: a lot of good things were helping him. Yeah, absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: to that joining he called up some stuff that we

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Speaker 1: I was concerned because they weren't giving the ball Zeke

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Speaker 1: I want to go to Heckman's dude, the schultzen Nigger, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: the Schultzenigger Scholtz bald out Now, whether you gotta see

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Speaker 1: it didn't. It did not. The boy bald out let

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Speaker 1: me tell y'all from the analytical perspective, he was putting

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Speaker 1: in there. He was gritting it out. He was grinding

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Speaker 1: be at the second level. Took him out the game too,

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Speaker 1: and I personally thought that he was going to present

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Speaker 1: portion of the game. He was hurt, but he was

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Speaker 1: a non factor. He was a non factor, absolutely. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But Darren James, man, I mean just seeing him live

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Speaker 1: Some things that we need to do in the secondary.

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Speaker 1: But this is all positive today. But Aiden's dad is

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Speaker 1: and isaiahs Damn back today and starting to escalate a

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Speaker 1: little bit. We'll see if it gets there all right.

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Speaker 1: Defensive side of the football, couple turnovers fors nine straight

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Speaker 1: games now for the Cowboys with a turnover that's the

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Speaker 1: second longest active streak in the NFL, only behind the

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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins. So they continue to take the football away,

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Speaker 1: but they did give up some pretty big numbers in

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Speaker 1: the passing game throughout the course of this one. Rob,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you start this off. What did you think

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Speaker 1: about the defense and was it a positive outing for them?

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Speaker 1: How do we start this without talking about Micah? Is

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Speaker 1: that possible? Can I just go straight to that? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe. I was looking at the stats again

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Speaker 1: this morning. I didn't realize he only played thirty nine

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Speaker 1: of seventy one snaps. I felt like the way his

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Speaker 1: impact on the game, I thought he was out there

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Speaker 1: every single snap, and I know he wasn't because there

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Speaker 1: was times where they just kept him off the field.

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Speaker 1: And Isaiah said this in the break man when he

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Speaker 1: wasn't rushing off that left edge and just given Storm

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Speaker 1: Norton everything he could handle, Justin Herbert had time, and

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Speaker 1: when Justin Herbert had time, he was delivering like that.

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Speaker 1: That was a dangerous, dangerous game because he is the

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Speaker 1: truth that is one of the best young quarterbacks in

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Speaker 1: the league, no question, Maybe one of the best quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: period right now in the league. But Mica was what

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Speaker 1: do you say? I mean? I sat there last week

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Speaker 1: and talked about not having to Marcus Lawrence, what kind

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Speaker 1: of impact that was going to have on this defense?

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Speaker 1: And I think they missed him some in the one

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Speaker 1: game defending setting the edge and Gregory two not being there,

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Speaker 1: but his pass rush was incredible. I mean to ask

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Speaker 1: a rookie to come in and basically change positions from

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Speaker 1: what he did in week one, uh and you know,

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Speaker 1: and do what he probably did best at Penn State though,

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Speaker 1: really really really impressive. If Michael parsons it doesn't play

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Speaker 1: defensive end for us this game, we lose straight straight

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Speaker 1: playing a simple the reason being, you know, to to

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Speaker 1: your point rock justin Herbert was delivering the rock. We

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Speaker 1: had all kinds of gaps in our in our zone coverage,

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Speaker 1: and they held. They were finding every nook and cranny possible.

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Speaker 1: They were just running five six yards, sitting, finding a

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Speaker 1: little gap in between linebackers, get the easy paths. First down, right,

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Speaker 1: They were just over and over again, Eckler boom, first down.

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Speaker 1: And then there is a dude number eleven who just

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Speaker 1: happens to go out there and provide a rush off

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Speaker 1: the right end right now is to Herbert's open side.

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Speaker 1: Luckily for him because he was able to see a

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Speaker 1: lot of it. But you know, Parsons was getting upfield

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Speaker 1: and then he got caught inside a couple of times

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Speaker 1: on a little spin back inside rush. Sometimes it worked

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Speaker 1: out in our favor, sometimes it didn't. Sometimes they were

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Speaker 1: able to escape the pocket and get the ball off,

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Speaker 1: and that's on coverage. We gotta figure that out. But

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Speaker 1: if he did not make Herbert uncomfortable back there, they

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Speaker 1: would have picked us apart and they would have won

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Speaker 1: that ball game. He is the one of the major

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Speaker 1: reasons why our defense was able to hold their ground

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Speaker 1: against it against the Church question. Yeah, you're just happy

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Speaker 1: that you have a guy like that, and it's just

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Speaker 1: a dog. He's coming after the quarterback. He's got four

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Speaker 1: quarterback hits and the sack that was questionable, but hey,

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Speaker 1: we'll take it. Let's talk about that. We will take

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Speaker 1: that that sack. But you know what happened was basically,

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Speaker 1: instead of calling a grounding call, which would have had

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Speaker 1: they were in the red zone, which took them far

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Speaker 1: out of position to score, but they awarded Micah with

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Speaker 1: the sack, which I think everybody in Cowboys Nation was

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Speaker 1: happy about it, but Chargers were not happy about it.

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Speaker 1: But you know, I think the linebackers played well and

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Speaker 1: like Jalen swipe if you want to come swipe if

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Speaker 1: he's holding that swipe back with everything he's got. But

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Speaker 1: defensive line wise, man, we've got to get some pressure.

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Speaker 1: Internally we had just hadn't got there. Those stunts guys

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Speaker 1: are still getting bottled up up front. But Osa Diggis

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Speaker 1: or number ninety seven, man, he had a really good

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Speaker 1: game as well for the D line group. He's starting

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Speaker 1: to find his own. Yes, he is starting to get

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Speaker 1: in there and get his feet underneath him. But talking

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Speaker 1: about the sack, was it a sack because that was

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Speaker 1: probably outside of maybe the past interference call that was

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Speaker 1: on Jamn Curse in the first half, that was an

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Speaker 1: interception that very well could have been should have been

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Speaker 1: an interception that was probably the most controversial call. Each

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Speaker 1: team had one that benefited them. But did you think

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Speaker 1: that was a sack on Justin Herbert in the fourth

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Speaker 1: I did not. I didn't either, But as Chris pointed

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Speaker 1: out to us in the break, it would have been

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Speaker 1: intentional grounding either way either way. So we'll have took

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Speaker 1: him back to the twenty five. Oh yeah, that being said,

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Speaker 1: Cowboy fans that want to say it's it's it's rigged

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Speaker 1: against them every single week. It's not. It's not that

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Speaker 1: that was a very beneficial call for them. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, as well as Mica played, I'm glad he

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Speaker 1: got the sack because he, like Isaiah you guys said,

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Speaker 1: he was the difference in this game. And that's that's coaching.

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Speaker 1: That's coaching for dan Quinn to say, we have to

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Speaker 1: do something. Our first round draft pick is really good

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Speaker 1: at this let's just change it up. And because he

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Speaker 1: only rushed like twelve times in the in the opener,

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Speaker 1: that's coaching, and that's a that's a great job by

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Speaker 1: the young player. But it's a testament to what dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn said he was going to do and he's actually

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Speaker 1: carrying it out. We talked about these matchups. It's matchups.

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Speaker 1: Our team, our defense is very versatile, very versatile. We

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Speaker 1: have all we got safety depth, right, we got we

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Speaker 1: got range it, we have a range in corners. We

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Speaker 1: didn't use it seemingly. Wait wait wait wait wait wait

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Speaker 1: wait wait wait did you say we have safety which

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Speaker 1: is crazy? Is that I mean? I mean, honestly, no,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect Donovan Wilson. Did we miss him this game. No, no,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect. Can you say it again? We didn't miss

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Speaker 1: the president and so yeah, so we have safety depth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so that's the thing. Whenever you have depth at a position,

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Speaker 1: when you have one of your main guys go out.

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Speaker 1: We had a starting safety out. We had two of

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Speaker 1: our two defensive ends, our book ends us out. I

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Speaker 1: don't feel like we missed them. I don't feel like

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Speaker 1: we missed them in the game. Now what we have

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Speaker 1: liked to have had them, salutely, but missing them and

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Speaker 1: liking to have had them is two different things. Right,

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Speaker 1: we had a rush. We would have expect it to

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Speaker 1: have a rush with those guys. We had physical play

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Speaker 1: and we had playmakers in a safety position. We would

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Speaker 1: have liked to have Donaldan Wilson, But guess what are

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Speaker 1: other guys that stepped up may plays. That's what it

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Speaker 1: means to have depth. You will rather you like to

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Speaker 1: have your guys there, but if they're not there, the

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Speaker 1: guys behind them step up and make the same type

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Speaker 1: of plays. So that's what I'm talking about. And dan

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Speaker 1: Quinn said, from week to week, this is what you're

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Speaker 1: gonna get whatever you have. I said this before we

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Speaker 1: saw they're gonna line up and we do the same thing.

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Speaker 1: On offense, we have to do the same thing officers.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing it in Kelly Moore's play calls. You're seeing

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Speaker 1: it in dan Quinn's ability to put Michael Parsons wherever

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Speaker 1: the heck you might be. Guess what Michael person might

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Speaker 1: be at dog on safety, he might be at corner.

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Speaker 1: Right David Boston comes back and lines up out there.

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Speaker 1: We might have put Partson to that corner because he

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Speaker 1: was too sixty receiver. He was lighting up to the

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Speaker 1: sideline against Fournette and week ones, he kind of so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so, I mean, that's that's what I love

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Speaker 1: about this defense. And I knew this about dan Quinn.

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Speaker 1: I know I have some history with him, but we

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Speaker 1: have the personnel now to go do that from week

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Speaker 1: to week. Yeah, that hybrid versatility that we have in

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Speaker 1: multiple positions is paying off and being able to scheme

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Speaker 1: it up is what dan Quinn is his strength that

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Speaker 1: he has. But man, you talk about safety, you talk

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Speaker 1: about curse. Man. I just I just think he had

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Speaker 1: one hell of a game. And I heard him say

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Speaker 1: that about Dono. I wouldn't have said that about Wilson.

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Speaker 1: I know that's your Texas and him brother, and I

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Speaker 1: saw you, I would I missed uh kind of going

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Speaker 1: along with curse. I mean, you needed you needed guys

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Speaker 1: to step up. You mentioned it, missing your two defensive ends.

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Speaker 1: You're you're missing your safety. And then of course we

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Speaker 1: talked about the offense already, but you're missing guys on offense.

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Speaker 1: This is the first time in two maybe three years

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Speaker 1: that injuries haven't derailed a team and you didn't feel like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there is a gaping hole in this

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Speaker 1: game plan because we were missing this guy here or

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Speaker 1: that guy there. This is the first time I felt

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Speaker 1: like there was still some cohesiveness and complimentary football played

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Speaker 1: in on three phases whenever there were guys missing on

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Speaker 1: multiple levels. The expectation is different. The expectation of this

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Speaker 1: team is different, not only in just the three phases

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Speaker 1: of the game, but cohesively as a as a unit,

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Speaker 1: as a team. We expect, they expect. We already have

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Speaker 1: our expectations. Sure, they expect to win. Last year, they hoped,

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Speaker 1: they hope to win last year. Now they expect to win.

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Speaker 1: A reason being, it started with the competitiveness in practice, right.

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Speaker 1: It started with no one guy being greater than the

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Speaker 1: other guy that starts. And that's a culture that we

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Speaker 1: talked about. That's accepting your role. Right. Guess when you

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Speaker 1: play a key role on this team. But guess what

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Speaker 1: when I put you a musician to make play, this

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Speaker 1: is what you do. I'm not gonna ask you to

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Speaker 1: do anything outside of yourself, right, Robbie, you rush the passer?

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Speaker 1: Guess what? Freaking rush the passer? Right? Right, Michael, guess

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Speaker 1: what you normally playing. But I need you to be

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Speaker 1: a dog and make this dude uncomfortable. Get to him

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Speaker 1: every single play. Even if you don't get to him,

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Speaker 1: make him get out of the pocket. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: Just make him not set his feet. Okay, Coach, I

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Speaker 1: got you. You know what I'm saying. Guess what, curse?

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Speaker 1: Guess what? Donovan is gone? I need you to step

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Speaker 1: up and make some dog on big plays. Digs shut

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Speaker 1: down Allen Man didn't shut him down. But guess what

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Speaker 1: we made some plays? Yeah? Right? And the same for

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Speaker 1: like guys like Layton vander Esch, who we talked about

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Speaker 1: last game that didn't have a whole bunch of reps.

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Speaker 1: He comes back this game and has one hell of

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Speaker 1: a game. Sack, big, big sack, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it shows up and I love that's a great point

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Speaker 1: that you just made, Isaiah, because you see this team competing.

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Speaker 1: It not only if there's a guy missing, like you said,

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Speaker 1: Michael comes in, but there was a point in the

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Speaker 1: game where I was just like, boy, Tank would have

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Speaker 1: killed this guy. Tank would have been all over this dude.

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Speaker 1: You know that those were those are the production numbers

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Speaker 1: that Tank would have definitely exercised the demons on this

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Speaker 1: And it was almost like they they had Micah Russian

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Speaker 1: off the other side against Rashawns later Na immediately, you

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Speaker 1: know what, let's let's exploit the match up on the

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Speaker 1: other side, and that was Later just just held him

652
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Speaker 1: up like a little kid. That's a good adjustment. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean defensively, Kyle, you referenced it like they gave

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Speaker 1: up chunks of yardage justin Herbert had a good day.

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Speaker 1: I think I think you have to look at the

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Speaker 1: fact that they faced two top ten quarterbacks, top five,

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Speaker 1: top whatever in the first two games. I think that,

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Speaker 1: you know, the competition was really tough, but look, they

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Speaker 1: affected him and La was five of twelve on third down.

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Speaker 1: That was that's good. And some of their conversions were

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Speaker 1: like third and ten, third and fifteen, whatever, so they

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Speaker 1: made it hard on him. I mean I was I

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Speaker 1: wasn't for what they were missing. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: a good performance, even though they kind of they dodged

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Speaker 1: a couple they're they're late, for sure, they definitely dodged it.

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Speaker 1: And Herbert got his phil three hundred and thirteen through

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Speaker 1: the air, I mean, only ninety five on the ground,

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Speaker 1: which is phenomenal compared to the run defense that you

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Speaker 1: saw a year ago with this Cowboys defense. But Trey

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Speaker 1: Von digs another interception. He's now had five interceptions in

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Speaker 1: his first thirteen career games or fourteen career games. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember which that second number was, but he's the

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Speaker 1: first player to have five interception or excuse me, an

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Speaker 1: interception in the first two weeks of the season since

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy five when Leroy Jordan did it. That's a

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Speaker 1: long time ago, say long time. I think they amended

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Speaker 1: that in the postgame notes. Did I think they went

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Speaker 1: back and saw Roy Williams did it. No. Six, okay,

679
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Speaker 1: but still still a long time fifteen years and you

680
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Speaker 1: were asking is he the best corner they've had. You

681
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Speaker 1: gotta do it like he would have done it to

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Speaker 1: you or me if I had said that, well what,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I would have done anything outside of

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Speaker 1: what he'd be giving you the frat boy vibe. You

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Speaker 1: know that was If anything, That's not my fault that

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Speaker 1: the stat was wrong. I'm just come on go with

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Speaker 1: But anyways, the um what were you saying about? Well,

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Speaker 1: I was, I was going back to your teas. Is

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Speaker 1: the best corner they've had in ten years? Is he?

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, this is the best start

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Speaker 1: I've seen from a corner in two games. I mean

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Speaker 1: even you know Keenan Allen got his but two picks

693
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Speaker 1: to have the confidence for a second year guy to

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Speaker 1: just say, hey, we're gonna stick you on the best

695
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Speaker 1: receiver and we're gonna travel you no matter what. I mean,

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Speaker 1: they haven't done that in ten years. No. Four catches

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Speaker 1: one hundred and eight yards, and that one ball that

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Speaker 1: Herbert threw to him in between the safety and corner,

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Speaker 1: I just think that's what put him over a hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: It's just an excellent throw yea by Herbert, and I

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Speaker 1: think we all came away from the game saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: Herbert is a dude. Yeah, no doubt. Yeah, he's a baller.

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Speaker 1: What do you think, Isaiah, he's a boss and I

704
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Speaker 1: think he also think not only is he a good player,

705
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Speaker 1: but at his office, ave coordinator Lombardi does a great

706
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Speaker 1: job put him in position to be successful. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean you expect that from every office of coordinator,

708
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Speaker 1: but every office of coordinator doesn't do that. Their system

709
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Speaker 1: allows for them to be very efficient, very efficient, And

710
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Speaker 1: he doesn't have to make these crazy throws. Now, he's

711
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Speaker 1: gonna make one or two a game, but he's not

712
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Speaker 1: forced to do that, you know, ten plus times a game,

713
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Speaker 1: just chucking this thing down the field they hit me

714
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Speaker 1: his rosor high percision. What do you think about Treyvon

715
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Speaker 1: Diggs and his his day overall? I think Diggs had

716
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Speaker 1: a good day. I think he had a good day.

717
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Speaker 1: I think he's I mean every game, I feel like

718
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Speaker 1: he's like he's like the He's like like a video game,

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Speaker 1: very video game character that just keeps learning all the

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Speaker 1: different moves, you know what I mean, Like every time, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's exactly processing exactly and keeps learning new techniques. I

722
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Speaker 1: saw that last week. But no, I think he's doing

723
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Speaker 1: a great job. Man. I think he'll continue to get

724
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Speaker 1: better obviously, I mean, is he the best corner in

725
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Speaker 1: the last ten years. I don't know. Man, He's he's

726
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Speaker 1: off to a great He's off to a great start though,

727
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Speaker 1: and I think, you know, the confidence that you're going

728
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Speaker 1: to gain, the confidence that the coach is instilling him.

729
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Speaker 1: He has an amazing coach and Harris Um and then

730
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Speaker 1: he also has Dan Quinn calling and plays and trusting him,

731
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Speaker 1: telling him, Hey, no matter who we play, you're sticking

732
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Speaker 1: their number one. Yeah. Right, So going into this next week,

733
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Speaker 1: I think he's really confident, you know, going into this

734
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Speaker 1: next week, having just face freaking Evans and face Allan,

735
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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be pretty confident going against Smith,

736
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Speaker 1: you know, coming up this week, Jalen Rager and DeVante Smith,

737
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Speaker 1: whoever ends up being the quote unquote number one receivers.

738
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Speaker 1: I think you're pretty confident going to thank you feel

739
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Speaker 1: pretty good after having to face Allan Sans in weeks

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Speaker 1: one and two. It's the lowest scoring w for the

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Speaker 1: This is the lowest scoring win since that point. Wow,

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Speaker 1: so it's been a while since the Cowboys have won

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Speaker 1: a game like that, and gotta give a lot of

746
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Speaker 1: credit to the defense. When we come back, we'll wrap

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748
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Speaker 1: fun I mean, that was a fun game to watch.

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Speaker 1: Did you eat a dub like Jamison Winston last? I

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Speaker 1: He did not eat a dub. Yes, they lost twenty

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Speaker 1: the way, tide of top the NFC East. How about

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Speaker 1: that shaking sound coming up? Semi first place, Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: take it. They've got a huge matchup coming up with

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Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Eagles coming up this weekend. Whole matchup back

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Speaker 1: at eight, got to be loud. Yeah, that's gonna be

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Speaker 1: all the fans out there turn up three straight home games.

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Speaker 1: About that, Yeah, because then the Panthers come to town

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Speaker 1: because it's the same week that. You know what I

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Speaker 1: want to see, Kyle, I want to see. I want

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Speaker 1: to see at and T Stadium rocking like the old

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Speaker 1: Texas Stadium. I want to see it rocking like that.

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Speaker 1: That was a vibe. That was a vibe. I think

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Speaker 1: we've gotten a little bit, you know, you know, since

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Speaker 1: we got the new state. Yeah, I want to see Philip,

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Speaker 1: even if you're boogie out there, even if you got

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Speaker 1: some bread in the back, that's okay. Come and act

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Speaker 1: a fool this Sunday, because Monday, all right, Monday night.

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Speaker 1: Even more reason, you got work next day. So listen up,

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Speaker 1: come turn up. The players need to feel you. They

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Speaker 1: There's a difference. I love doc system and a custom

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Speaker 1: the custom system custom Let's get it done. No pinkies

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Speaker 1: in the air, Yeah, no, that turn up. Let's let's

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Speaker 1: do something we haven't done on this show in quite

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Speaker 1: some time. Yes, let's give out some smelly stickers. How

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Speaker 1: about that? Bring it back a tradition from early twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: We kind of went away from it for a little bit,

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Speaker 1: but I'm gonna have the smelly stickers for some reason. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we that's true. We weren't able to get This is

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Speaker 1: basically a segment. It's kind of like helmet stickers, but

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Speaker 1: instead we go smelly stickers and we scratch and sniff,

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Speaker 1: and we placed it on those who deserve it. So Rob,

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Speaker 1: I'll let you start us off. Who deserves your smelly

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons said, that's so yeah, like profident, I'm surprised.

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Speaker 1: I was surprise he played so at least less, but

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Speaker 1: like people on the Twitter telling me, look on the sideline,

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Speaker 1: he looked gassed. That's how much she was how much

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Speaker 1: effort he was giving in trying to provide that pass

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Speaker 1: rush off the edge, you know, like different between sitting

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Speaker 1: in the box of the second level and giving an

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Speaker 1: effort out the blocks every single time for thirty nine

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Speaker 1: place that is draining. Yeah, and he got better as

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Speaker 1: he came along to rain pounder. Yeah, just the motor,

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Speaker 1: the production, the midweek switch and being willing to do

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Speaker 1: that in a second NFL game. Smelly stickery root beers?

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Speaker 1: Is it the root beer smell? Yeah, that's a good one. Nostrils.

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna give my smelly sticker

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Speaker 1: to number seventy Zach Martin. What Yeah, I'm giving it

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Speaker 1: to Zach Man. Zach. Just ah, Zach Martin makes everything better.

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Speaker 1: That's just that's just what it is. And he has

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Speaker 1: to get my smelly sticker, Zach. Whole offense just bananas man,

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Speaker 1: all right, okay, banana banana banana. Um, there's a orange.

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Speaker 1: Huh his orange. I am going with tern Steele. Tern Steele.

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Speaker 1: He brought his his big white drawls, the old school drawl,

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Speaker 1: the work drawls. He brought those. He didn't bring the

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Speaker 1: box of briefs. Okay. He didn't bring the nice ones,

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Speaker 1: the nice ones with the little machine. He brought the

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Speaker 1: old condes, the old cotton ones that you're putting these on.

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Speaker 1: I'm about to go do the yard. He put them

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Speaker 1: drawls on and he came to work. Smell Aaron cow bite.

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Speaker 1: There's this week's cow bite. Make sure you're listening. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna get mine to to Tony Pollard. Since we haven't

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Speaker 1: we haven't had a chance to talk about it a

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Speaker 1: whole lot. But Tony Pollard thirteen carries one hundred and

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Speaker 1: nine yards, and yes, the offensive line paved the way.

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Speaker 1: But it was kind of like what Zeke was saying,

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Speaker 1: whoever is rolling, whoever has that hot hand, they're gonna

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Speaker 1: get the football. And Tony Pollard had the hot hand

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Speaker 1: and he was able to to convert on multiple occasions,

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Speaker 1: and not only in the run game, but in the

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Speaker 1: passing game as well, and he capped off with a

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Speaker 1: big touchdown too, So my sticker goes to Tony Pollard definitely, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what did it smell like? Oh? I don't know. You

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Speaker 1: guys took like the only three flavors, imel strawberry. I'll

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Speaker 1: give him a watermelono you to pick the work draws.

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Speaker 1: I hope that's not as I never want that sticker

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Speaker 1: that I want. That's Gonads on Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos. Tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: I want to hear about your thoughts on the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: twenty to seventeen win for Chris Beam in the back,

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Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, Isaiah stand back and have my Harrison. I'm

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