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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: He's the new head coach at Michigan, Kyle Whittingham, former

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Speaker 2: Utah head coach Tuton Pac twelve Coach of the Year

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Speaker 2: and went ten and two at Utah this year, and

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Speaker 2: then was going to go into an advisory role and

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Speaker 2: be paid to stay.

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Speaker 3: On at Utah. At least that was the report.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden Michigan, that job opened

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Speaker 2: up and Kyle Whittingham was there to take the phone call.

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Speaker 2: We spoke to him yesterday and I started off by

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Speaker 2: asking him, is he having a midlife crisis?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, good question. But you know, I had a

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Speaker 4: really good run at Utah. It was a great experience

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Speaker 4: thirty two years. In all twenty one years at the

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Speaker 4: head coach. I figured I'd done pretty much all I

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Speaker 4: could do there. And I'm still not that old sixty six.

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Speaker 4: I guess that's, you know, not that old. But I

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Speaker 4: thought when I stepped down, first of all, I didn't

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Speaker 4: want to be that guy that over state is welcome,

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't. I don't you know, I've seen

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Speaker 4: that happen too many times, or guys stayed too long,

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Speaker 4: get run out of town. So didn't want to be

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Speaker 4: that guy, but just felt like, Okay, it's been a

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Speaker 4: good run. Let's let's leave on a positive note. And

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Speaker 4: when I did step down, I had an inclination in

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Speaker 4: my mind that if there was about you know, you

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Speaker 4: can count on one hand the amount of schools that

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Speaker 4: if they would have called, I would have been receptive.

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Speaker 4: And just so happens. About two or three days later,

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Speaker 4: I had some contact with Michigan and they were on

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Speaker 4: that list, and one thing led to another about a

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Speaker 4: weaker ten days later it was a done deal.

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Speaker 3: You contact them or they contact you.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's my agent. And I'm not sure how the

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Speaker 4: initial thing went. Of course, there's a search committee guy,

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Speaker 4: the head of the search committee. I don't know who

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Speaker 4: was contacted who first, but that's how that's how it went.

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Speaker 2: What kind of questions do you have going into a situation.

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Speaker 2: We all know how great the job is, but man

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Speaker 2: feels like there's a little bit of a mess to

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Speaker 2: clean up, you know, for the next year or so.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it's the place doesn't need a rebuild,

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Speaker 4: it needs a reboot of trust and get rid of

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Speaker 4: the drama and and just get back to playing Michigan

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Speaker 4: football without all the distractions. You know. The one thing

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Speaker 4: is it didn't come from the players. You know, the

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Speaker 4: players were not involved. It wasn't some player you know

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Speaker 4: issue it was. It was, you know, just the peripheral.

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Speaker 4: And so guys here have a great attitude. I met

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Speaker 4: with every single one of them at the bull site

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Speaker 4: last week. Just quality, young men, care about academics, excited

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Speaker 4: to be at Michigan. But they've dealt with a lot

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Speaker 4: over the last years, and so that's where they're at.

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Speaker 3: What did you need to hear.

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Speaker 4: I needed to hear that they were having a good

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Speaker 4: experience here exclusive of the of the distractions.

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Speaker 2: The athletic director and the you know, the the higher ups.

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Speaker 3: What did you need to hear from them?

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Speaker 4: Well, I need to hear that Michigan was what I

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Speaker 4: thought it was, you know, a top five program, which

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any doubt about that. It's a

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Speaker 4: special place. They're committed to winning here. You know, we

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Speaker 4: do have some challenges with entrance requirements. There is there

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Speaker 4: is a little bit of a hurdle there. But you know,

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Speaker 4: you talk about athletes, resources, tradition, it's all.

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Speaker 5: Here at Michigan.

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Speaker 3: You haven't been out of Utah or Idaho.

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Speaker 4: I don't think you're right, right, how does a coach

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Speaker 4: you're right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so what do you need to learn about, you know,

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Speaker 2: being in Michigan and the Big Ten in hating Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Now you've got to deal with Indiana and yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well we would transfer our moving leagues is no, no,

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Speaker 4: nothing new to me or where I was at. And

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Speaker 4: you went from the whac to the Mountain West, to

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Speaker 4: the Pac twelve to the Big twelve and I was

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Speaker 4: there through it all, and so I know exactly how

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Speaker 4: to how to you know, navigate that.

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Speaker 6: You know, we've had a.

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Speaker 4: Pretty good track record against Big ten schools while I

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Speaker 4: was at Utah. In fact, against Michigan we're three and oh.

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Speaker 4: So that didn't hurt my cause during the during the

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Speaker 4: uh the process, the hiring process. But but uh football

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Speaker 4: is football then, and and it's ex's and o's. They

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Speaker 4: don't change, certainly, the you know, the level of competition

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Speaker 4: is increased, but it's relative. I mean, we're good players here,

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Speaker 4: so so it's a I think it's a good situation.

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Speaker 3: Do you hate Ohio State?

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Speaker 4: Don't I have to? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think I have to.

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Speaker 2: But but uhr seminar that there, and I know Erban

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Speaker 2: was helping you.

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Speaker 3: UH wasn't.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, I've been close with Urban ever since. We worked together,

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Speaker 4: uh back in uh O two and O three and

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Speaker 4: I was as defensive coordinator. I was on the staff.

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Speaker 4: Staff got let go, Urban got the job. I was

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Speaker 4: the only holdover and uh Ridy developed a great relationship

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Speaker 4: he absolutely helped me. Uh alone the way here.

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Speaker 2: Kyle Whittingham, Michigan head football coach joining us, I'm trying

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Speaker 2: to figure out this transfer portal, so am I. But

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Speaker 2: I'm also trying to figure out the collective and nil dollar.

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Speaker 2: I mean, somebody just told me over the weekend that

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Speaker 2: some of these programs are getting to forty million dollar budgets.

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Speaker 4: Forty million plus.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I mean it doesn't feel sustainable, Kyle.

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Speaker 6: It's not.

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Speaker 4: It is not sustainable. There's no question about that. Something

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Speaker 4: has got to give, and I think it's you know,

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Speaker 4: within a two to two to four five year window here,

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Speaker 4: you're going to see a major overhaul Division one football.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to become more of a minor

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Speaker 4: league NFL model. I think you're going to see a

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Speaker 4: solar cap collective bargating players as employees. I think all

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Speaker 4: that's coming because you're exactly right, we can't maintain this pace.

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Speaker 4: It's impossible.

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Speaker 3: Can we have a commissioner?

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Speaker 4: Yes, I would love one. I think that's I think

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Speaker 4: that's in the cards as well.

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Speaker 2: But is everybody going to listen? Is the SEC gonna

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Speaker 2: listen or the Big ten?

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Speaker 4: I mean they have to, they have to. And I

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Speaker 4: think if we get you know, ultimately aligned with the

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Speaker 4: super conferences and you know, get things commission you know,

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Speaker 4: have a commissioner that runs it all and put some

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Speaker 4: teeth into it. I think that's the only way to survive.

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Speaker 4: And so, and you're already seeing private equity starting to end.

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: Where are we going with the playoffs? It's probably going

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Speaker 2: to sixteen next year? But where are we going?

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Speaker 4: Well to sixteen? First of all, and I kind of

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Speaker 4: agree with coach Dan Landing at Oregon it would be

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Speaker 4: nice to have the season wrapped up by January first,

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Speaker 4: especially the way the portal window is right now. I

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Speaker 4: mean it's chaos, and so I think there needs to

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Speaker 4: be revamping, not only if of the system itself, but

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Speaker 4: at least immediately the calendar. The calendar needs to be tweaked.

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Speaker 2: What kind of money are we talking about? What's a

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Speaker 2: top end quarterback costing now?

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Speaker 3: In the portal?

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Speaker 4: Well, I heard today that one university in the state

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Speaker 4: of Texas is paying five million dollars for a starting

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Speaker 4: quarterback for this year. And so I think that might

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Speaker 4: be the the uh, the best and most I've heard of.

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Speaker 4: And I you know, basketball players, some basketball players are

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Speaker 4: making more than that from what you hear. But a

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Speaker 4: starting quarterback now, apparently the price is five million dollars.

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Speaker 3: Is Bryce Underwood staying?

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Speaker 5: We hope?

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Speaker 4: So I think he's had he's got a got a

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Speaker 4: good vibe. Uh, well, you don't know anything yet. I mean, shoot,

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Speaker 4: it's a it's the wild, wild West here, Dan. And

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Speaker 4: so we think we think we're in a good place

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Speaker 4: with Bryce. He's a terrific young man. I've sat down

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Speaker 4: with him and and uh he is the really the

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Speaker 4: heart and soul of this football team. And uh, I

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Speaker 4: think we're making good progress towards that end.

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Speaker 3: We are curious if we could have your old Utah gear.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I can have a shift out to you. It's

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Speaker 4: all xcel. You got one size to choose from.

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Speaker 3: But uh, boy, that's that's a big color change for you.

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Speaker 4: Is it is?

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Speaker 5: You're right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, red to blue and blue was our was our rival,

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Speaker 4: you know, Ita for years and so now I got

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Speaker 4: to get used to saying go blue.

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Speaker 2: But I tell them, okay, but did you hate BYU

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Speaker 2: as much as you're gonna hate?

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Speaker 4: Okay, hate a strong word, But how about an intense,

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Speaker 4: very intense rivalry? And uh, it was very uh in

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Speaker 4: the state of Utah. I mean it's the biggest single

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Speaker 2: That was an unbelievable rivalry though very underrated. But you know,

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Speaker 2: having two daughters who lived in Salt Lake and it's

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Speaker 2: like you did. Yeah, no, they both they both left.

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Speaker 2: They both came back home. Yeah, they loved it. They

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Speaker 2: loved Salt Lake. But they said, uh, that that rivalry,

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Speaker 2: you don't understand it until you go to it, exactly.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: So because I grew up Ohio State Michigan, right, and

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Speaker 2: I always think that there's no better rivalry, But there

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Speaker 2: there are ones. When you go to them, you understand

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Speaker 2: the importance. It's just not national magnitude like Ohio State

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Speaker 2: and Michigan are.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't have the national band with that we have in

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Speaker 4: this rivalry, but it is every bit is intense and

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Speaker 4: every bit as you know that the animosity in the

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Speaker 4: in the state. You know, you're either red or blue

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Speaker 4: in that state, and its pretty well split. I mean

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Speaker 4: it's almost an even division there.

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Speaker 2: Could you take Ryan Day when you were younger, when

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Speaker 2: I was younger, or would you take him now? So

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Speaker 2: he's forty six?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Could you take Ryan Day right now in the ocket gun.

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Speaker 4: In the acting on. Well, there's one way to find out.

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Speaker 3: I guess I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I like Ryan I got a lot of respect for him.

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Speaker 4: We played him in the in the Rose Bowl a

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Speaker 4: couple of years back. Well, I guess it's been in

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Speaker 4: three or four years now, so excellent football coach.

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Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 2: I don't have to say nice things anymore, man, It's

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Speaker 2: best that you don't, Okay.

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Speaker 4: I know, I'll probably put my foot in my mouth

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Speaker 4: right there.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Congrats, good luck, appreciate you, thank us, Appreciate you, Dan,

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Speaker 2: thank you. We tape that yesterday. Five hours later, Bryce

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Speaker 2: Underwood tweeted that he was staying at Michigan, but you

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Speaker 2: could hear in his voice when he said, is your

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Speaker 2: quarterback going to be staying. He's like, uh, hope, so

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Speaker 2: he didn't know. Yeah, do you think he didn't know? Well,

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Speaker 2: if he knew, then why wouldn't you say.

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean maybe he wanted the player to announce it.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 8: I mean that's kind of the way things work now.

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Speaker 8: You know, the player announces they're leaving, the player announces

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Speaker 2: But it's basically, hey, we're going to give you the money.

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Speaker 2: We're going aau We're going as early as possible to

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Speaker 2: What's it going to take and when do you start?

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Speaker 2: This is what's going on right now. They and even

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Speaker 10: Yes, Morvin, you're going to see a lot more mid

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And you want to know right away, is that is

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Speaker 3: Least with football.

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Speaker 8: Maybe even still just staying for that extra year of development.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, palling.

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Speaker 2: Well quinn Ewers as well. I mean, it's it's working

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Speaker 2: Twenty five percent of the NFL needs a new head coach.

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Speaker 2: I thought we were gonna have five or six openings.

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Speaker 2: as qualifying for the playoffs. But it's like the Lions.

438
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Speaker 2: When the Lions closed fast a couple of years ago,

439
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Speaker 2: I said, and I thought they were going to make

440
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Speaker 2: the playoffs that year. I said, look out for the

441
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Speaker 2: Lions the next year, and they went to the NFC

442
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Speaker 2: title gain, I believe. How do you close? It's like

443
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Speaker 2: Atlanta played well at the end of the year. History

444
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Speaker 2: has shown if you play well at the end of

445
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Speaker 2: the year and you're not a playoff team, chances are

446
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Speaker 2: it'll carry over.

447
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Speaker 3: You found something.

448
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Speaker 2: Maybe it took longer than it should have, but maybe

449
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Speaker 2: you have something in some of these places that you

450
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Speaker 2: closed out and you played hard, you played well.

451
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Speaker 11: Yes, Ton, at the risk of signing insensitive, hasn't Black

452
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Speaker 11: Monday lost some of its luster? If several days later

453
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Speaker 11: you can get fired, possibly even have to lise a playoff.

454
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Speaker 5: Game, which we're going to find out in the week

455
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Speaker 5: or two ahead. What is Black Monday at this point?

456
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Speaker 3: How about black Week, just that the entire week or.

457
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Speaker 5: Is it gray Monday?

458
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Speaker 11: Is it a lighter shade because it's like not as

459
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Speaker 11: scary as it's not really Black Monday anymore.

460
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Speaker 5: If you're gonna get fired on.

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Speaker 2: Thursday, yeah, how about you might get fired this week

462
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Speaker 2: like that?

463
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Speaker 3: That's a yeah. See, it is kind of.

464
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Speaker 8: Crazy that we've all bought in on the concept of

465
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Speaker 8: black Monday as a thing. Yeah, that we all know,

466
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Speaker 8: and that so much so that Tud's disappointed that it's

467
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Speaker 8: lost his luster.

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Speaker 3: It's not the Black Monday we used to know.

469
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Speaker 5: Within twenty four hours of the last game of the regular.

470
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Speaker 8: Stations, don't wait to see all these guys get fired.

471
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Speaker 9: When people lose their livelihood and their dreams, we should

472
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Speaker 9: do it in a format that's.

473
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Speaker 3: Come on, good for us. It's not fair.

474
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Speaker 5: Make a decision.

475
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Speaker 8: Let's sponsor it next year by like an employment agency

476
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Speaker 8: or something. Let's get indeed on there, coach.

477
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Speaker 2: You need indeed minimum kindness, uh, the sensitivity level of

478
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Speaker 2: you that never sees.

479
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Speaker 8: We can't celebrate Black Monday the most sensitive slash insensitive person.

480
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Speaker 2: That's true. Nobody fakes sincerity quite like you do. Nobody,

481
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: by the way, random random thing, random topic. Tomorrow night,

482
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Speaker 2: I have a zoom call at six o'clock for a

483
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Speaker 2: half hour with a psychic and she I got this

484
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:26,280
Speaker 2: Christmas gift. She is going to tell me about my

485
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Speaker 2: dog winning and I had to send her pictures and

486
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Speaker 2: I get to I get to wait and hear about

487
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Speaker 2: my dog.

488
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Speaker 8: I smill smoke.

489
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Speaker 3: Okay, so it's telling me that you don't smoke. That's

490
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Speaker 3: why I smell the smoke. It's a clue that you

491
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Speaker 3: don't smoke. Yeah.

492
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Speaker 2: Oh so I and then my daughter has a cat,

493
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Speaker 2: a Maine coon cat. And then she gets the other

494
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Speaker 2: half hour. So I get a zoom call with a

495
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Speaker 2: psychic about your dog, about my dog and my cat. Yeah,

496
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Speaker 2: and we're on a zoom call with the psychic with

497
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Speaker 2: our past when he.

498
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Speaker 8: Is upset about the treats. Situation feels it's a little lacking.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Paul, I.

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Speaker 9: Don't want to pu poo this, but I would see

501
00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 9: those psychic offices and I want to walk in and say,

502
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Speaker 9: tell me my middle name.

503
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Speaker 6: If you tell me my middle name, I'll sit down

504
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Speaker 6: and pay the fee.

505
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Speaker 2: How much I don't know that guy Oh's doctor os, Yeah,

506
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Speaker 2: Oh's pearlman. He might be able to tell your middle name.

507
00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 2: That guy does some crazy, crazy stuff. I don't know

508
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 2: how he's doing it, but you'll see him with NFL teams,

509
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: saw him with the rams and the bills.

510
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Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, something's going on there. Yeah, Paul, what.

511
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Speaker 6: Are you going to ask your psychic tomorrow?

512
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Speaker 3: I'm not asking. Oh, I'm listening.

513
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Speaker 6: They're presenting.

514
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to tell me about my pet. I'm

515
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Speaker 2: not gonna give you any hints about Winnie. No, and

516
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Speaker 2: the main coon his name is Kevin. So we're gonna

517
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Speaker 2: be sitting there with the psych on a zoom call. Man,

518
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Speaker 2: do I live the life? Yes, DoD did you reach.

519
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Speaker 6: Out to the psychic for an appointment?

520
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Speaker 11: And if so, it doesn't make sense because the psychic

521
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Speaker 11: should have known it advance that you needed this help

522
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 11: and they would have reached out to you.

523
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Speaker 3: Well, one of my children gave me. This is a

524
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 3: Christmas gift. Yeah, okay, see the smoke. That must be

525
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 3: your grandfather. That's your grandfather.

526
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Speaker 8: Okay, he smoked right, Like who didn't have a grandfather

527
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 8: that smoked?

528
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Speaker 2: And if you're watching on Peacock, there's Tyler with Winnie

529
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Speaker 2: and that's not a great angle for Winnie.

530
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Speaker 3: But there she is.

531
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Speaker 8: She's excited.

532
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:25,840
Speaker 2: Now she's going to see herself on TV and go

533
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,879
Speaker 2: crazy crazy. You can hear her barking in the bag.

534
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Speaker 11: Yes, are you going into this with a questionable no hour,

535
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 11: You're all in on, like, I'm gonna take what this

536
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Speaker 11: person says for real.

537
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Speaker 2: I promise that I'm going in with an open mind.

538
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: I promise.

539
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Speaker 8: I sense tension here with is it maybe with the dog?

540
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Speaker 5: Is it with a family members?

541
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Speaker 6: Is your dog bark?

542
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Speaker 11: Sometimes? I'm getting this feeling that like there's a dog

543
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Speaker 11: a wag her tail, getting this feeling.

544
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Speaker 2: I still love the pink panther that scene. Does your

545
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: dog bite? And then all of a sudden, you know,

546
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Speaker 2: Peter's catch the dog and the dog bites him and

547
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 2: he goes, I thought you said your dog does not bite.

548
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: And the guy behind the counter goes, that is not

549
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Speaker 2: my dog. AnyWho?

550
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 6: Any who worried about tomorrow night?

551
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Speaker 3: Are you?

552
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 6: Yeah? Because I think you believe a little too much.

553
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 3: You think I'm gullible.

554
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 6: No, not gullible. That's different.

555
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 9: I think you if you said do you believe or

556
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 9: not believe in psychics? I think you lean towards that.

557
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 9: You would believe in them occasionally.

558
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 3: No, I wouldn't.

559
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 9: And I'm talking about not that random dude on the street,

560
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 9: just like I think you would lean towards it.

561
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Speaker 2: I did sit down for a tarot card reading and

562
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Speaker 2: I didn't. It didn't last because she said to me,

563
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:47,880
Speaker 2: I see Evil.

564
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 3: And I was like, I don't.

565
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Speaker 6: Want to hear it.

566
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 3: No, I'm like I don't know what when? What's going on?

567
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 2: You know? And and there were a group of people,

568
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 2: there was people, everybody's getting there reading done, and I

569
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it. And then all of a

570
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 2: sudden I sat down and it was like, any what's

571
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 2: going on here? So I cut short that tarot card reading?

572
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Speaker 3: Yes, Tony, what are you supposed to do with the that?

573
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 5: You're not going to make it home alive just forever.

574
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 5: You're gonna stay in the office there with this.

575
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

576
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Speaker 2: I don't know how deep she's gonna get, but we

577
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 2: had to send pictures of the dog and the cat

578
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: and then she's gonna do a reading since Evil.

579
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Speaker 8: I'm getting the Yeah, does.

580
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 5: Warby mean anything to you?

581
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 2: Evil?

582
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 3: Canievil?

583
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 8: I'm getting the name Warby, war Morby, Norby, Dorbi Norby.

584
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 5: Does that mean anything?

585
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 6: When you're in there tomorrow night, you got thirty minutes.

586
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 9: If you got a couple of minutes at the end,

587
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 9: ask her if she likes the Panthers of the Rams,

588
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 9: get that would help?

589
00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't.

590
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Speaker 2: I don't know if anybody's gone through this, but yeah,

591
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 2: I got. It's an hour long. And I said to

592
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 2: my daughter, I said, ah, I'm not sitting there for

593
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Speaker 2: an hour. I'm gonna give you. I'm gonna take thirty

594
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 2: and then you take thirty and that's it.

595
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Speaker 3: Yes, So it's a Paulie point.

596
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 11: Does a psychokeept selective abilities? Why can't like they tell you,

597
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 11: how do they not play the roulette wheel? And I know,

598
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 11: I don't know. They know the cards, they know what's coming.

599
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: Okay, why doesn't this O's pearlman play the stock market

600
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:13,320
Speaker 2: and become a billionaire and then he doesn't have to

601
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: go into a football practice and read.

602
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 3: People's minds because it's fraudulent.

603
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 2: I don't know there's something going on with him, like

604
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: I watched they. Anytime I go on Facebook and I

605
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: see one of those clips, I click on, Oh's Pearlman Peter.

606
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 5: Pick the powerball numbers?

607
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 11: Then why don't they do every time you can win

608
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,320
Speaker 11: power Ball, you see the future, you know things you know,

609
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 11: select things you know, like the name of someone's grandmother

610
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 11: that die that's talking to them from the dead.

611
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Speaker 5: Rumhn.

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Speaker 9: Yes, I'm reading a couple of articles where they discuss

613
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 9: in seriousness, like popular science about psychics, and they say

614
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 9: most psychics who are somewhat reputable air quotes, they say

615
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 9: they can't predict like the weather and the future and

616
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 9: sporting events, but more so, they connect with the person

617
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 9: they're talking to and can read into them.

618
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Speaker 6: And it's not like I I tell you what the

619
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 6: stock market is going to do next week.

620
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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I mean once again, it was a Christmas gift,

621
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Speaker 2: and I don't know if I reacted in the way

622
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: I should have because I was like, I saw this,

623
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: it was like a card and I went, huh.

624
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 5: That's not a good stab to make for gift.

625
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 12: Huh huh.

626
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, okay.

627
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: And then I could bond with my daughter and then

628
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Speaker 2: her cat and the cat and the dog get along

629
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Speaker 2: with each other, and yeah, yeah, it'd be like who

630
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: is oh Wilson.

631
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, a great idea.

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Speaker 10: Yes, Martmon, Yeah, the person one of your kids. They

633
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Speaker 10: gave it to you. Oh Dad's gonna love this, and

634
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Speaker 10: you just didn't have that reaction that they I know.

635
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Speaker 2: I should have. I should have. They should have known

636
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Speaker 2: to not give me. I'm psychotic. Fox Sports Radio has

637
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639
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Speaker 2: Fox College Football Analyst, Big Noon Kickoff, former Notre Dame quarterback,

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642
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Speaker 2: and the host of Two Pros and a Cup of Joe.

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Speaker 2: Let's start at the end of the game. Would you

644
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Speaker 2: have called pass interference in that situation? Was it pass interference?

645
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Speaker 5: I personally would not call it.

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Speaker 12: Could you make a case on pretty much any other

647
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Speaker 12: play throughout the course of the game, would that be

648
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Speaker 12: deemed pass interference? Yes, probably more likely than not. There

649
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Speaker 12: was some pushing going both ways, and in that final play.

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Speaker 12: I think we all know when those plays looked at

651
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Speaker 12: kind of as a hail Mary situation, even though it

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Speaker 12: was your traditional hill Mary.

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Speaker 5: You're just you're not going to get that call. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I think I'm the only.

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Speaker 12: Player who was a part of a Browns team in

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Speaker 12: two thousand and nine when we lost in the Detroit

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Speaker 12: Lyons to ever basely have a pass interference, a defensive

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Speaker 12: pass interference called, which was called on Calvin Johnson in

659
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Speaker 12: that game, and we obviously ended up losing that game.

660
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Speaker 12: But I can't think of another example of it in

661
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Speaker 12: pro football or even college football.

662
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: For that matter.

663
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 3: How did Miami win at the line of scrimmage?

664
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Speaker 5: That's really what they've done.

665
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Speaker 12: And I think last night's game was highlighted by the

666
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 12: offensive line. I mean, that's just a massive group and

667
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Speaker 12: it's hard to like really understand dan like how big

668
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 12: they are.

669
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Speaker 5: Until you at the field level, because the camera doesn't

670
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 5: do it justice. It really doesn't.

671
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Speaker 12: It's my like if it's and I've said this and

672
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 12: we'll get into the semi final game tonight hopefully, but

673
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 12: every time I see Indiana's offensive line and defensive line,

674
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 12: and then you look across when it was the Big

675
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 12: Ten championship for Ohio State or even Alabama most recently,

676
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 12: you just go, there's a tremendous size advantage. Well, that's

677
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 12: definitely gonna be the case if if you makes it

678
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 12: and wins tonight.

679
00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 5: They're just a massive group. They're physical.

680
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 12: I mean, you know, Mary chris Ball really it kind

681
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 12: of made you know, State disclaims as a coach in

682
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,160
Speaker 12: college football on the offensive line and that group. I

683
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 12: thought one last night in prior games it felt like

684
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 12: it was Ruby Bay a key messador on the edges

685
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 12: for their defense.

686
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 5: But that's what they've won with.

687
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Speaker 12: I mean, I don't get me wrong, they're extremely talented

688
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,720
Speaker 12: too in other spots, but that team has led in

689
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 12: the trenches and that's a reflection.

690
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,840
Speaker 5: Of who their head coaches.

691
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Speaker 12: And then credit to Mario Crystobaal forgetting that team to

692
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,280
Speaker 12: play that sort of physical style of football throughout the

693
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 12: playoffs and for the most part throughout the year.

694
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 2: I know, we spent a lot of time talking about

695
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 2: quarterbacks in the portal, and I keep reminding people, give

696
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: me offensive and defensive linemen.

697
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll take it.

698
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:44,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Georgia won national titles because they basically said,

699
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: it doesn't matter who we have at quarterback, but it

700
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 2: matters who we have offensive defensive linemen.

701
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 12: Yeah, look at what Philly did after they won those

702
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,240
Speaker 12: national titles. Howie Roseman said, I'm gonna draft those.

703
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 13: Guys and a super Bowl with those guys, So the

704
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 13: national checks if they wont Super Bowls with that strategy.

705
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 13: So that to me, I think is like that that's

706
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 13: what's not talked about enough for if you really dive

707
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 13: into what's happening in the transfer portal.

708
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 5: Now everyone's talking about the quarterbacks, and they're obviously going

709
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 5: to fetch the highest price.

710
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 12: If you don't have one, but it's still offensive lineman,

711
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 12: it's defensive linemen. We can go on for days talking

712
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,800
Speaker 12: about how the style of football that's taught at younger

713
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 12: levels and how that translates up and how it impacts

714
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 12: offensive line play, and how hard it is to find

715
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 12: guys who are ready coming out of high school who

716
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 12: either don't need to put on a bunch of a

717
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 12: weight and put on a bunch of muscle and develop

718
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 12: that sort of strength and physicality. That's one part of it,

719
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 12: but also just the way they're taught, the technique and

720
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,920
Speaker 12: everything else that goes along with that. It's very different,

721
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,919
Speaker 12: you know, It's just a lot of that's changed over time.

722
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 12: So they're a price commodity. You don't have to look

723
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 12: any further than Texas Tech who won the Big Twelve,

724
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 12: and look at that defensive front, and that it made

725
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 12: on their chances of getting to the playoff and then

726
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 12: ultimately winning in the playoff. But at the end of

727
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,319
Speaker 12: the day, like that's what this game is gonna come

728
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 12: down to, who's best in the trenches and today's semi

729
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 12: final announs in the National Championship.

730
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 2: If I had Lane Kiffen hooked up to a lie

731
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 2: detector test, who.

732
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Speaker 3: Do you think he was rooting for last night?

733
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 5: I'd like to think from knowing.

734
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 3: We keep saying, we'd like to think that what do

735
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 3: you actually think.

736
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 12: Well, he's incentivized to root for old Miss, right, like

737
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 12: he's still getting paid off these wins.

738
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 5: So I think he was rooty.

739
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 3: He's rich already.

740
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Speaker 5: This is get that hold on, hold on anyone who

741
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 5: has money.

742
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 12: You can't tell me they don't want more money.

743
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 5: That excuse I hate when people bring that up, like, oh,

744
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 5: they've got money.

745
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 12: Oh, I guess they just don't care that they're gonna

746
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 12: light it on fire and they're just they don't care

747
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 12: what happens to it. I think he was rooting for

748
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 12: Ole Miss and in part because I mean, like it's

749
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 12: gonna look bad if obviously they would winning a national championship,

750
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 12: and that's maybe part of the reason why he left

751
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 12: Ole Miss in the first place. But he is incentivized.

752
00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 12: I think the dude's got a good heart despite some

753
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,520
Speaker 12: of the other things that maybe go on. So I'd

754
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 12: like to think that he's rooty for guys too, who

755
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 12: who are gonna be coaching on staff, Charlie West.

756
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,560
Speaker 3: Junior, who agree with that? Yeah, I agree with that.

757
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 12: And even so the players who may be joining him

758
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 12: at so much so I'm sure there's some elements he would.

759
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: Be rooting against his players if they're going to join

760
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 2: him because now they can join him a week earlier.

761
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 12: True, true, but I think they'll they'll they would still

762
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 12: have that chance after this game to figure that out.

763
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: I'd like to think he was ready for All Miss.

764
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 5: I believe he was.

765
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: How do you evaluate Carson.

766
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 5: Beck, who.

767
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 12: I think you obviously saw in the Final Drive what

768
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 12: he's capable of. I think we've seen throughout portions of

769
00:36:56,560 --> 00:37:01,439
Speaker 12: his career what he's capable of. The tough thing is

770
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 12: is you didn't really have to do a deep dive

771
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,560
Speaker 12: into you know who he is as a person. You

772
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 12: know what maybe hazard hasn't been there for him, so

773
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 12: you can display that consistency like we saw maybe you'd

774
00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 12: say a couple of years ago at Georgia or even

775
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 12: at points in time this season, when he has those

776
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 12: good games, he's not able to follow it up and

777
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 12: consistently play that way. You know, it felt like he

778
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 12: was managing the game in the quarterfinal round and then

779
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 12: last night, like when they really needed him, so he

780
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 12: stepped up, made big time throws, obviously the scramble for

781
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 12: the touchdown to win. But I think you see the

782
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 12: high end, like he can be a guy that's talked

783
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 12: about going in the first round because because of that

784
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 12: arm talent and the ability to layer throws and anticipate

785
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,080
Speaker 12: and see windows. But there's other times too, when when

786
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 12: you see some of those poor decisions, or you know,

787
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 12: him not playing as well versus pressure, or some of

788
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 12: those blitz looks, you go, well, he's gonna be asked

789
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 12: to do at the next level.

790
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 5: So it's it's.

791
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 12: Hard because you could see the upside there, but there's

792
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 12: still a level of consistency that's just not it's never

793
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 12: really come together, And I don't know how to put that,

794
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:04,479
Speaker 12: you know, how to summarize that at this time because

795
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 12: I still think He's got a big game ahead of

796
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 12: him if he plays well in the National Championship, based

797
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 12: on what he did in last night's game, based on

798
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 12: what he did in the National Championship, That's probably all

799
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 12: people really want to talk about when they were coming

800
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 12: to a draft evaluation of him.

801
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 2: I'm talking to Brady Quinn, Fox College football analyst. What

802
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,040
Speaker 2: did Oregon I guess, gain or learn from the first

803
00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: matchup with Indiana that helps them tonight?

804
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 12: They got to be better and stopping the run. I

805
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 12: thought that was what ultimately lost them. The game was

806
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 12: in their house, and this is a group that obviously

807
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 12: is highly motivated. You know, you see Dan Lennings pre

808
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 12: game speeches. But they weren't the more physical team. And

809
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 12: I think they know they have to be the more

810
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,359
Speaker 12: physical team because Indiana has proven that every single game.

811
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 12: We can talk about for Nanda Mendoza, we can talk

812
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 12: about the defense, Cooper Sarat, some of their playmakers.

813
00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 5: It starts in the trenches, like they have.

814
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 12: Dictated to others how that game is going to go,

815
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 12: and everything to me is based off how they run

816
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 12: the football and the RPOs and everything else off of that.

817
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 5: So they've got to find a way of stopping the run.

818
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 12: That's been a little bit of an achilles heel for

819
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 12: Oregon's defense this year, if we're want to break it down.

820
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 12: But but I tend to believe that, you know, when

821
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 12: you have rematches and it's it's seldom you have it

822
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 12: in college football, at least not until we had to

823
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 12: expanded playoff, that you know, the team to lose is

824
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 12: going to learn more from that.

825
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 5: And I think you have evidence of that. Look at

826
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 5: the playoff.

827
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 12: If you look at every single power for a team

828
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,440
Speaker 12: that played a rematch, the team that lost the initial

829
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 12: matchup one you know, you don't have to look any

830
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 12: further than it was Old Miss obviously lost to Georgia.

831
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 5: They just they beat Georgia.

832
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 12: In the subsequent round, you had Bamba who lost to Oklahoma,

833
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 12: who beat Oklahoma, and even in the SEC championship game,

834
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 12: you know Georgia lost to Bamba. They you know, they

835
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 12: win the SEC Championship. So there's examples I think of that.

836
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 12: I think the only one you could point to is

837
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 12: or Old Miss, who beat Tulaan and obviously a rematch

838
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 12: which didn't change anything, but again not really in.

839
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 5: The same you know, level playing field. I think That's

840
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 5: what the stake for Oregon is. Is this team.

841
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,800
Speaker 12: To me, Dan feels like Ohhi State last year, where

842
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 12: you know, Ohio State, U had kind of you know,

843
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 12: lost the Michigan game, stumbled versus Oregon as well, but

844
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 12: they kind of built that momentum.

845
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 5: As they went on to win a national championship.

846
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Speaker 12: Oregon, you know, lost that Indiana game, didn't play in

847
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 12: the conference championship, but I feel like they've kind of

848
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 12: learned from that and they've built up from that and

849
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 12: now they've got a lot of momentum as they head

850
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 12: into it. So I would not be surprised at all

851
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 12: if you see a very more you know, physical, different

852
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 12: style Oregon team and as far as how aggressive they

853
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 12: are stopping Indiana's rushing attack.

854
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: The SEC finishes this postseason with a one in eight

855
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 2: record against non conference power for teams. Is this the

856
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 2: future or is this an aberration?

857
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 5: No, this is what college football has been.

858
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 12: We we for the third straight year, don't have an

859
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 12: SEC team playing for a national championship. For the third

860
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 12: straight year. You know, you didn't have the the bulk

861
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 12: share of representation in the playoff, at least in the SEMIS.

862
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 12: They're not represented by SEC teams. So I think when

863
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 12: you really take a good hard look at what's happened

864
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 12: in college football is there's been a shift and and look,

865
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 12: you can draw your own conclusion about how NIL and

866
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 12: the transfer portal has impacted that where now you can

867
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 12: pay players that it's above board. I'll let someone else,

868
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 12: you know, uh, tick off the SEC fan base about it.

869
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 12: And I'm also not naive enough to think that other

870
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 12: schools and other conferences weren't doing it, but it just

871
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 12: kind of see, it feels like an odd cause and

872
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 12: effect that NIL transfer portal, that you know, combination now

873
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 12: becomes possible, and all of a sudden, the teams in

874
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 12: the Big Ten, uh and other teams start kind of

875
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 12: really capitalizing off of that.

876
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,080
Speaker 5: So I think this is going to be more of

877
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 5: the norm.

878
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Speaker 12: And I think moving forward, uh, you know, you're you're

879
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 12: only going to see you know, teams within the Big

880
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 12: Ten continuity as stronger. I mean, if I you does it,

881
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 12: that's no saying like who else could potentially do it

882
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 12: too in the Big Ten that we really didn't think about.

883
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 5: Uh, you know, three years ago.

884
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: No matter who wins the national title, do you feel

885
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,200
Speaker 2: notre Dame is still better than them.

886
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 5: Hey, I don't like living in a world of hypotheticals, so.

887
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 12: I'm not I'm not one of those Notre Dame fans

888
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 12: who's gonna sit there and say that I wish there

889
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 12: was a scenario where Notre Dame could have been in

890
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 12: so he could have seen what it would look like,

891
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 12: but that wasn't the case.

892
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 5: I don't.

893
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 12: I even hate the fact that we have to talk

894
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 12: about it, because you know, it takes away from all

895
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 12: the other schools and what they've accomplished, all the players,

896
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 12: what they've accomplished, but in.

897
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 2: You.

898
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 12: But here's what I'll say, Here's what I'll say with

899
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 12: you even asking it, it goes.

900
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 5: To show you the brand power of Notre Dame.

901
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 12: Like ESPN can't help themselves and they have to make

902
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 12: a snarky comment as they do the postgame highlights on

903
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 12: Sports Center afterwards about Notre Dame, who hasn't been involved

904
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 12: for a month, but like everyone still wants to talk

905
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 12: about them. Okay, Like, go ahead, keep on talking about

906
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,960
Speaker 12: the brand that everyone hates to admit is the top

907
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 12: college football even though they're not.

908
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 5: A part of that.

909
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 2: Well, same thing with the Cowboys. Everybody goes out of

910
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: their way to somehow incorporate the Cowboys, and even now,

911
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 2: you know, like you know, we're gonna look ahead, you know,

912
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 2: next year with the Cowboys. Wait a minute, there's games

913
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: coming up this weekend. Let me, can you give me

914
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: a comp for Fernando Mendoza.

915
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 12: Kirk Cousins is kind of who I when I'm watching

916
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 12: his tape and.

917
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: See h a higher end.

918
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,120
Speaker 5: That's a tough question to answer because I also was a.

919
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 2: Fourth round draft pick. That's why I was saying that

920
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 2: this is gonna be the number one. Now, granted there's

921
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: not a lot of quarterbacks in this draft.

922
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 12: Well, hold on, I mean, if Dante Moore comes out,

923
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,239
Speaker 12: I'm not I'm not so sure he's not gonna be

924
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 12: the number one overall pick. Like, I think there's a

925
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,799
Speaker 12: real argument to be made in his upside, his skill set.

926
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 12: He to me, if he came out, would be the

927
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 12: purest passer, meaning when you watch, I think he's got

928
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 12: a stronger arm. I think he layers throws better. I

929
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 12: know he's not his experience and obviously you know he's

930
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 12: not the Heisman Trophy winner. And Fernando's had a tremendous

931
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 12: year I'm not taking anything away.

932
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 2: From yeah, but let's take no take away the college stuff.

933
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: Let's look at pro potential.

934
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 12: So so when I watched the tape of these guys

935
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 12: and you're watching the different throws that they're making, I

936
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 12: sit there and look at Dante Morr and I said, Yeah,

937
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 12: that's the guy I probably feel like has the higher

938
00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 12: upside and and even some of the stuff he does

939
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 12: off schedule.

940
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 2: Okay, let me make you Tom Brady. You're you're the

941
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: GM of the Raiders. You're on the clock, and the

942
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,800
Speaker 2: pick at it is in the Raiders select.

943
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 12: I would well, again, Dante Moores hasn't declared so and

944
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 12: so he does, it would be Fernando Mendoza. Once he does,

945
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 12: I would lean right now based on my film studying

946
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 12: on both probably on Dante Moore. I like that, And

947
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 12: I know that's that's gonna be controversial on people, but

948
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 12: it's just what I've seen from him. I've sat down

949
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 12: and talked to them, and they're both tremendous guys.

950
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 5: Like I think they both be franchise quarterbacks.

951
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 12: Like this, Like we've got in trouble before because we

952
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 12: had a debate over like Bryce Young, CJ.

953
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 5: Stroud, and it's like both these guys.

954
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 12: Be franchise quarterbacks, Like they each have a skill set

955
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 12: that I think translates to me.

956
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 5: It's more about, Okay, if Fernando goes to.

957
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 12: Las Vegas, or if Dante goes to Las Vegas, what

958
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 12: are they going to do to help him out? Because

959
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 12: that is a team that's devoid of protection and devoid

960
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 12: of any playmakers helping him out. I mean, look at

961
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 12: Ashton Genty. I think he rushed for what is it,

962
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 12: twelve hundred yards, thirteen hundred yards, like a thousand of

963
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 12: them were after contact. I mean, it's it's ridiculous what

964
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 12: he had to endure as a running back. So both

965
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 12: those guys I think will probably go one and two

966
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 12: and whatever order the team see that. But I think

967
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,320
Speaker 12: the difference for me again is just I think Dante's

968
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 12: got a little bigger arm.

969
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 5: I think he can create a little bit more.

970
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,120
Speaker 12: He's less experienced and obviously doesn't have the same type

971
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 12: of tape, but it's just effortless man when you watch him,

972
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 12: the way he throws the football, and the one concern

973
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 12: I have a little bit for Fernando is they run

974
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 12: a bit more of a heavier, heavier, RPO offense, and

975
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 12: so that doesn't translate quite as well to the next level.

976
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,799
Speaker 12: You know, we always talk about the progressive quarterbacks reading

977
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 12: defenses and understanding what they're trying to take away. I

978
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 12: think you see a little more NFL throws, more of

979
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 12: an NFL style offense from what Dante is as to

980
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:16,840
Speaker 12: do with organ as opposed to maybe what you're saying

981
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 12: from uh Fernando and Ayu.

982
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: Jets Raiders.

983
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:24,480
Speaker 2: If you had your choice and you're going to play

984
00:46:24,560 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 2: quarterback next year, where are you going.

985
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 12: I think the Jets are better positioned because of their

986
00:46:32,719 --> 00:46:35,920
Speaker 12: personnel to allow you to have success. I was a

987
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 12: part of the Jets organization for half a year, so

988
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 12: a cup of coffee or whatever, and I would say,

989
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 12: they've got things set up, but you know, you just

990
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 12: got to hope that it all comes together.

991
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 2: Would you go back to college if that was the option,

992
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 2: you could go Raiders, Jets or back to Oregon.

993
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,359
Speaker 12: If you're talking about being the I mean, if you're

994
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 12: talking about the business decision and you're the number one

995
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:58,720
Speaker 12: overall pick, I mean, you're making a lot of money

996
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 12: on that first contract that's fully guaranteed, really right, for

997
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,960
Speaker 12: the first four years with a fifth year option. No

998
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 12: one's gonna be able to compete with that at the

999
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 12: college level. And so you might say, like, are you

1000
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,399
Speaker 12: willing to take on that risk where, yeah, you could

1001
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 12: get paid. I don't know, Brendan Soresby got paid what

1002
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 12: five million reportedly to go to Texas Tech. You know

1003
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 12: you're gonna get paid good money and you delay it

1004
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 12: for another year. But I'll ask you this, Dan Jets

1005
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 12: raiders the Browns tights like they've been drafting it somewhere

1006
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 12: in that spot for a long time. Like it seems

1007
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 12: like it's pretty cyclical. It happens like every other year.

1008
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,040
Speaker 12: So there's no guarantee if you go back to school,

1009
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 12: you're not going to have that same team in the

1010
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,399
Speaker 12: same situation play itself out.

1011
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll leave you with this. Does Miami fire their

1012
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: head coach if they don't know who is going to

1013
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: be their next head coach?

1014
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 12: I it just doesn't line up to think that they

1015
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 12: didn't react to the John Horbaugh now being out there

1016
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 12: for them.

1017
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1018
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 5: I mean none of it lines up, not with who

1019
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 5: the general manage your interview candidates have been, and especially

1020
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 5: if they end up hiring their general manager. First.

1021
00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 12: I think the thing that bothers me the most about

1022
00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:10,560
Speaker 12: it is, you know, what would of Mike McDaniel bench

1023
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 12: to a if he knew that he was gonna get

1024
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 12: fired at some point, and whether it's after the season

1025
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 12: or like, if he felt like he needed to put

1026
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 12: the best guy out there to win and has no

1027
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 12: disrespect to quin yours.

1028
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 5: But he's a rookie. Maybe they want to see what

1029
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:22,920
Speaker 5: they have in him.

1030
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 12: But I think as a coach you also do that

1031
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 12: if you feel like you're comfortable, like, hey, I'm gonna be.

1032
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 5: Here in twenty twenty six. Yeah, so let's see what

1033
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 5: we have in this young guy.

1034
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:31,879
Speaker 12: That's what That's what strikes me as a bit odd too,

1035
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 12: is just the way it all went about. It feels like,

1036
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 12: again they're reactive to who else is out there, maybe

1037
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 12: even with Stefanski, but it seems like all the all

1038
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 12: the dots are connected and it's gonna end up being

1039
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 12: horrible when it's all said.

1040
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 5: It done.

1041
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 3: Good to chat with you as always, have a great weekend.

1042
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 5: Happy New Year, by the way, or there was it

1043
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 5: too late, it's too any one of those like yeah

1044
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 5: you're okay, you're a Seinfeld.

1045
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 2: Guy, Okay, yeah, to like, Okay, do I wait until

1046
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 2: the end of January.

1047
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 12: If I hadn't seen you, I might, I might open

1048
00:48:59,320 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 12: up with that. I think that's a that's a that's

1049
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:02,239
Speaker 12: a fair way of handling it.

1050
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:03,160
Speaker 3: And you could have texted me.

1051
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 5: That's a good point. You gotta text me.

1052
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I wouldn't say Happy New Year.

1053
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 5: I was saying, you could have on New Year's Day

1054
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 5: said I would.

1055
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: I only respond when people do it to me. I

1056
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 2: don't do it. I don't say Happy New Year.

1057
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 5: Oh you're one of those guys. Okay, I'll keep that

1058
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 5: in mind. I'll keep that in mind.

1059
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 3: I did say Happy New Year to Lane Kiffin though, see.

1060
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 12: But that maybe that's because Lane's pretty good alluring people

1061
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 12: into situations like Demand Williams and all that.

1062
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 2: Maybe you know, I didn't reach out to Lane, but hey,

1063
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,319
Speaker 2: have a great weekend. Thank you, Bud, thank you. That's

1064
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:42,240
Speaker 2: Brady Quinn.