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Speaker 1: the line. I've got j J. Wilson and James Boyd,

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Speaker 1: former military transition from military to civilian life, now entrepreneurs,

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Speaker 1: business owners, and we're gonna talk about them and find

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Speaker 1: So James and j J. Welcome to soft Reap Radio.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having us, right, Okay, let's play choosies just

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Speaker 1: like school. I'm gonna be the teacher now. J J. Wilson,

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Speaker 1: how did you meet James Boyd? That's kind of a

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Speaker 1: funny story actually, So we met first couple of days

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Speaker 1: I think I've gotten there a day or two ahead

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Speaker 1: of James, probably right. And this is the part of

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Speaker 1: I'd just come from New York, I finished up undergrad.

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Speaker 1: Kind of a different world, right, And we've been there

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Speaker 1: seen people go on block leave, We've got friends that

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Speaker 1: needed to be checked on or whatever the case is,

429
00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,679
Speaker 1: and this application has now been created, you know, for

430
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Speaker 1: that extra peace of mind for the employer. Is that

431
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Speaker 1: what you would think for the whole Yeah, it's a

432
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Speaker 1: bit of like a force multiplier in terms of like

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Speaker 1: efficiency and communication throughout a military organization. And as you mention,

434
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: and there are obvious analogs in the non military world,

435
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,520
Speaker 1: and if you kind of step back and think big

436
00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,520
Speaker 1: picture vision, a lot of what we're building with this

437
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,560
Speaker 1: company is like if you're a desk work girl, right,

438
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,560
Speaker 1: you have like Microsoft Office where you have some like

439
00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 1: PowerPoint and Excel and outlook to do like slides and

440
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,600
Speaker 1: math and sid messages. Right, Like there's a set of

441
00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,199
Speaker 1: things to make your world go. But like if you

442
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:27,920
Speaker 1: work outside right on the beaches or in the mountains

443
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 1: or in airplane hangars or whatever else, right, like, there's

444
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 1: not an analogous set of tools by which you can

445
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 1: make your world go. Right, So like we build that

446
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: starting with this notion of like accountability and structured messaging,

447
00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,360
Speaker 1: like what we're talking about with Mustard and the holiday

448
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,199
Speaker 1: Buckley whose case, right, But think about all of the

449
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,600
Speaker 1: things that hang off of that, right, whether it's like

450
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Speaker 1: scheduling arrange day in the army or scheduling like a

451
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: physical fitness test in the Navy, or like managing property

452
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Speaker 1: book stuff, which is like these are my indie gs

453
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Speaker 1: and this is my rifle and this last time it

454
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Speaker 1: was like all of the stuff that kind of hangs

455
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Speaker 1: off of that, which like across most of D and

456
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Speaker 1: D and for like we still do a lot of

457
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Speaker 1: things like little green notebooks and white boards, right and

458
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: like the stuff that I carry around the white board,

459
00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,440
Speaker 1: remember my dad's office. My dad would have like three

460
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Speaker 1: years planned, you know, on a white board. Dude, I

461
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Speaker 1: sit there as a little rad not even though, and

462
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Speaker 1: now I know the white board is so like you

463
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Speaker 1: still have one. Huh, it's pretty it's pretty blank. Right now.

464
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Speaker 1: We've been doing some maths and my all thet sun

465
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Speaker 1: like all of this persists right in spite of the

466
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Speaker 1: fact that like everybody is carrying around a powerful computer

467
00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,720
Speaker 1: in the in their pockets, right which we can do

468
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, right, Yeah, it's a supercomputer. Anything

469
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: that was ever in the eighties or nineties is blown

470
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Speaker 1: away by this phone in my pocket. Like, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: you could conduct your business from wherever if it's sustainable,

472
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Speaker 1: you know, like literally get it. There are some coal

473
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:04,080
Speaker 1: miners that have to dig coal. You can't quite do that. Well,

474
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,480
Speaker 1: you probably will with robots and virtual apps and uh,

475
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, artificial intelligence will be going in those caves

476
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Speaker 1: and digging out the coal if we need it. You know,

477
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,840
Speaker 1: things like that. So jeez, who knows with guys like

478
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Speaker 1: you and brains that you guys have instilled in you

479
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: from Cornell and from Stanford, I mean they say no,

480
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: just like little throwing a dart at the board. Here,

481
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: there's some brain power, okay, and it can't just leave

482
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Speaker 1: you guys have a team, right, there's how many yeah

483
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Speaker 1: brains I bring That's generally been the same, you know,

484
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Speaker 1: he says that, but we both took the army as

485
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Speaker 1: that the g T test g T school, and you

486
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Speaker 1: beat me by one point. Yeah yeah, he's like, yeah, yeah,

487
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Speaker 1: you bring that up every single time we pitching investor, Yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: one point, he's smarter than me, and you're like, no,

489
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: one point and investors like, here's my investment. Yeah. Now,

490
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Speaker 1: let me ask you something aside from all of this,

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Speaker 1: you know, space that you spent on, what do you

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Speaker 1: guys do just for a moment, just to take a

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Speaker 1: break from the work and the monotony and the thought process.

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Speaker 1: What is it that you do to escape the thoughts

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Speaker 1: of the past and the stress of today. You know. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's start with James, because you know, I'd like to

497
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Speaker 1: hear what you're decompressing, Like, is it snowboarding? Are you reading?

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Speaker 1: What is that? Oh? Man? I mean I love reading,

499
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: but I think for me it's movement. I just love

500
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Speaker 1: being outside. I love moving around. It's something about just

501
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:44,639
Speaker 1: the perception and the feeling and balance and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: So like the gym is definitely my temple because you

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Speaker 1: just you feel things every single day and you concentrate

504
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: on stuff. But then I'm lucky enough to live next

505
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Speaker 1: to twenty acres of open space preserve and so when

506
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Speaker 1: I need to get away, I can help on my

507
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Speaker 1: mountain bike and I can lost in the hills and

508
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,680
Speaker 1: it's just that that same movement, right, It's like tires

509
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: sliding around on rocks. It's like dudgeon cactuses out here

510
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: in Arizona. It's just sort of being present inside that.

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Speaker 1: And I just I soak up so much sensory stimulation

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Speaker 1: from from movement, from sunlight, from the breeze, from the smells,

513
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 1: and I think that's a like candidly, that's a thing

514
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: that's a little difficult working at the desk now, but

515
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Speaker 1: it was so used to note walking in desk environments,

516
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Speaker 1: and so you're used this very very rich, censury experience,

517
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Speaker 1: and now it's like we're sitting here. I got a window,

518
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: but it's not quite the same. So for me, that's always,

519
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: uh my escape. And gosh, like I got a motorcycle

520
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 1: and I got a mountain bike, things with two wheels, balancing,

521
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 1: and I know, like as a snowboarder. I'm sure that

522
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Speaker 1: same feeling right when you're coming and you're sliding and

523
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Speaker 1: you're feeling it. It's the same thing with rubber on

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Speaker 1: on gravel. Yeah, it's my mind is probably drifting but

525
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: still conscious at the same time, and so all the

526
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Speaker 1: things in my head are still there, but at that moment,

527
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Speaker 1: it's just like, you know, it's it's just excided and

528
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 1: I'm just gravitating to this awesome I don't know how

529
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Speaker 1: to explain the feeling of just being free, right and

530
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: just like the wind in my hair, Okay, that's what

531
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, whether it's rolling down the window in

532
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 1: the car and just getting a little bit on my

533
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Speaker 1: hair on my whiskers, or in the snow writing and

534
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 1: getting a full snowbeard. Just like I look forward to

535
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: ice in my beard, I'm like, I want more and uh.

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Speaker 1: At the same time on the lift, though, I'm still

537
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 1: kind of contemplating business mindset, you know, and I gotta

538
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: get a podcast lined up and I'm gonna talk to

539
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: some people what we're gonna talk about. And I'm getting

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00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 1: off the lift, you know, it's like here we go,

541
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 1: and and so I completely agree with that. What are

542
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: you doing to h decompress from pitching investors, trying to

543
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: keep saying that people asking you, why are you out

544
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Speaker 1: of the military, What are you gonna do with yourself? Kid?

545
00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 1: I end up chasing kids quite a lot. So I

546
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: have three boy and two girls ort tin and eight, right,

547
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:03,199
Speaker 1: and they're all problemly not as active as James is,

548
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: right with like the baseball and softball and gymnastics and

549
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,400
Speaker 1: tumbling and trampoline football, and my son's taking up wrestling

550
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: this fall, which has actually been kind of fun, right,

551
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:18,400
Speaker 1: And so it's just like investing the time in helping

552
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: them to get better, to enjoy more what it is

553
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: they've set out to do is actually like really rewarding

554
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 1: for me, right, and like help them figure out just

555
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: like be be their biggest fan, right, and like help

556
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: them figure out how to do things like deal with failure,

557
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: right and figure out some of the self management time

558
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 1: management stuff James was talking about earlier. And it was

559
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: kind of the coolest thing, right. It's like seeing lightbulbs

560
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: go on. It's like, oh, like I can I understand

561
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: how like hard work relates to good outcomes, right, And

562
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: like I understand that good things happen when I do

563
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 1: the things that I'm supposed to do, like I enjoy

564
00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,719
Speaker 1: like building that competitive spirit of Also, each of them

565
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 1: probably comes much more naturally for them that that. Even

566
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,239
Speaker 1: for me James was talking about earlier, it was like

567
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: I wanted to win a right, like you guys were

568
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,560
Speaker 1: talking about this kind of vibe thing you're like, you know,

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00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: I said, the beard and like mind drifting on the lift,

570
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: And there's this kind of flow state, right that's associated

571
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 1: with unplugging a little bit right and doing things that

572
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: kind of let your mind sort of I don't know,

573
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: detached a bit, And I think a lot of my

574
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 1: way of doing that is just like investing and hanging

575
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: out with with my littings, Yeah, and just get interested

576
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,760
Speaker 1: in them and just being like, hey, what are you

577
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: guys into, Like, let me get into that and let

578
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,680
Speaker 1: me help support that. You want to be a wrestler,

579
00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,440
Speaker 1: Let me show you how to put it into somebody.

580
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: You want to hit a baseball, let me let me

581
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: toss it with you to see if you got it down. No,

582
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: I love that, and that's that can also be that

583
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 1: same thing, And I feel like a little bit of

584
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: my dad from you. I just want you to know

585
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: that okay, and uh, he would do that same thing.

586
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: I feel that he invested a hundred percent into me

587
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: and my brothers too, you know, believe in us. And

588
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: UH feel like, oh, Aaron wants a skateboard shop at

589
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: thirteen years old, Let's get him a skateboard shop. Figure

590
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: that out. But he made me earn it and like

591
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: respect it and appreciate the fact that the power that

592
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 1: he paid for power refrigerator, that I sold his diet

593
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: cokes on the front door to the mom's next door.

594
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: He's like how much did you sell those diet cokes for?

595
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 1: I was like two for a dollar. He's like, well,

596
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:26,120
Speaker 1: you know that there's there's electricity that goes to the fridge.

597
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, you're gonna charge me rent, Dad,

598
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get a skateboard. Selling your groceries out

599
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: front for cheaper isn't how kids supposed to get a job,

600
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: you know. So so the entrepreneur spirit just always fostered.

601
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: He also had a degree from like, uh the University

602
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: of Pacific and uh he finished off he's going on

603
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: his doctorate and so before he passed. But he's still

604
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 1: just instilled that belief in you know the youth. He

605
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: believes that today's you know youth or are the future, right,

606
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: and he just wanted to see that success. And I

607
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: feel that from you. I just do. I want you

608
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: to know that so and I love the conversation with Addington.

609
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,959
Speaker 1: Now you guys feel this has been successful and you're

610
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: seeing growth. Is this something that's trending right now in

611
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:20,840
Speaker 1: your lives? And you're stoked. It's amazing, I've seeing the Gosh, like,

612
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: we think back a couple of years ago, j J.

613
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 1: It wasn't that long ago that you and I were

614
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: sitting on the floor of the Best Western south of Houston, Texas,

615
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: like outside Anglton, Texas and jjay Z and Beef Jockey

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00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: and I'm writing code on the floor of the Best

617
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: Western and that's where it started. And and you know,

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00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:42,000
Speaker 1: sometimes this is kind of like, I don't know, you're

619
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: on a long road match. You're like, man, is this

620
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: road match ever gonna end? Right? At times sort of

621
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 1: slows down in the moment, but then you look back, like, man,

622
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: like that was only three and a half years ago

623
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: maybe at that point, And so now it's we got

624
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 1: we got some amazing conversations going on with with folks

625
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: in the Force and in the Army and then the

626
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: Navy right now, and we've got thousands of folks using

627
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: our software and units all over the country and across

628
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 1: all the different branches and the kind of stuff that

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00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: that we care about. It's like, yeah, we're talking about

630
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: being able to issue orders more efficiently, being able to

631
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: pull data and make decisions more effectively, and stuff like that,

632
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: and like this is this is just the baby steps

633
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: right and changing the way business happens and making it

634
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: better for individual users. And we've got a fantastic team

635
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: of folks, both veterans on the team, and we've got

636
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: some fantastic folks just from pure technology sector on the

637
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: team that are making this happen. And what we see

638
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: is this this little journey, you know, it starts with

639
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 1: a little seat and then it keeps growing, right, like

640
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: to think about, like, hey, it's like goes from selling

641
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: diet cokes on the front lawn to to an entire company,

642
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: right and like educating people about products and that sort

643
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: of thing. And it's just it's a journey and it

644
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: feels slow at times, but then you look back, like, oh,

645
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: actually that was quite a bit that happened, and I

646
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 1: think for us, you know, we think about kind of

647
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: the sweat equity that goes into this stuff, like there's

648
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: an emotional tool as an entrepreneur, right, and but then

649
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: you see the impact, like even just talking about the

650
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: hbl use case, like they've been over a hundred service

651
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: members with PTSD and mental health issues who raised their

652
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,240
Speaker 1: hand using Muster when somebody reached out to them and said, yeah,

653
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: I need somebody to talk to. And so for us

654
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: to be able to see that and you know, the

655
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: folks that really really need help able to get that help,

656
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: and then the leadership teams come back to us and

657
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 1: say like, hey, yeah, I get that. This is a

658
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: this is a mobile application that helps us do digital

659
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: knife hand It helps us get day and all that

660
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: sort of stuff. But it also it gives us power

661
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:45,560
Speaker 1: as leaders to really lead and to be able to

662
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 1: reach out across our entire organization, change the culture inside it,

663
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: to really have like we talk about open door policy

664
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of places like it, they really get

665
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: an open door policy because people tell them things. We

666
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: had one unit commander say, one of his service members

667
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: came up to and said, hey, tell me about the aliens.

668
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, well, if the junior most person in

669
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: the organization is comfortable enough to talk to the boss

670
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: of the organization and ask about the aliens, you know

671
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,000
Speaker 1: that you actually have a real open door policy. It's

672
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: been implemented and so like. But for us seeing seeing

673
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: mustards impact in these units, man, like, that's why we

674
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: do this stuff. And so that's why we go from

675
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: writing code on the floor the best Western two thousands

676
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 1: of users like some some amazing, amazing things we're doing

677
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: right now with folks inside the Air Force and the

678
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: National Guard. That's some really exciting possibilities to grow from that.

679
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: You keep saying the word muster, right, and in the

680
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:40,800
Speaker 1: military it's mustard for ready, get ready, everybody paling underneath

681
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: like someplace or outside the rain mustard mustard, you know

682
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: in line up. That's I'm trying to break that down

683
00:33:45,800 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 1: for someone who may not know mustard, right, And so

684
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: your acronym is like m U S t R. Is

685
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 1: that what it is for the app? Is this something

686
00:33:53,720 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: that right? Mustard? Is that? Yeah? Oh man, that should be.

687
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: That's a great one. That's a great one. I think

688
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: one of the guys on the team is daughter. She

689
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: she was just impascinating him because all he does a

690
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: litt day along was talking about musta and she's like,

691
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: this is Paul. She's like, must and musta, must and

692
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: must must the only conversation that happens in this house

693
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: that sounds a bad plate. Mustar m U s T.

694
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 1: That's five letters. You could do it. Better do it

695
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: now before someone here's this. I think I'm up for. Yeah,

696
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: you can have what now? Are you in Tennessee and

697
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 1: are you in Arras? You're in Arizona? But are you

698
00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 1: still in Tennessee. No, I'm in Texas. So I had,

699
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: like I said, talked about before a guy of the

700
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: army in like two thousand thirteen. And then I went

701
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: to grad school up north and not. My wife's family

702
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: is from Kansas and mine obviously from Tennessee. So like

703
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 1: the Dallas area was kind of the best we could

704
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: do in terms of the geography compromise. And so when

705
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 1: I figured at grad school here been in Texas ever since.

706
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: There's a pretty proud tradition of like Tennessee sending its

707
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: people west to Texas for one reason or no show here.

708
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 1: I it sounds like you might need must in that family,

709
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 1: you know, just to talk to each other. If you're

710
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: trying to figure out geographical locations, you should probably use

711
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:20,040
Speaker 1: mustard to just keep in contact with each other. Yea, yeah.

712
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: And so with muster though, as a business owner myself,

713
00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: with like you know, a small staff of twenty employees

714
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: if you will, they've all dedicated themselves to the to

715
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: the company, so it should be expected for me to

716
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: be able to reach out to them like a little

717
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 1: bit of a leash to say, hey, we are staff,

718
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: we are a team. As the captain of the team,

719
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 1: I need this done in this type of manner. So

720
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: being in the military is really you are on a

721
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:44,720
Speaker 1: little bit of a leash, a lot of a leash

722
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 1: when it comes to working in that environment, and your

723
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,759
Speaker 1: bosses need to kind of know where you're at so

724
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,239
Speaker 1: they can have accountability, right because no one wants to

725
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: know if you're missing for any bad reason. They just

726
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: want to know where you're at. You don't want to

727
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: be a wall after without leave and then have to

728
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: deal with all these articles and all these reprimands and

729
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: you know, jail time and discharge, so you kind of

730
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: want to just as a person in charge of these

731
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: units and these groups you it seems like it's a

732
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: pretty easy thing to want to adopt. I'm not paid

733
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: by you guys to promote this, and you're not giving

734
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: me any money, right, No, No, I'm just saying it

735
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: makes sense, and if it makes sense, it's And the

736
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 1: beautiful thing is that it's it's something we saw you

737
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: talk about that kind of like that leach, that ability

738
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,799
Speaker 1: to control and interact is like, this is the chain

739
00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 1: to come up, right, Like, this is a thing and

740
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: this is what you sign up for the day un list.

741
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 1: But the other flip side is that this is like

742
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: it's almost like a contract. And what I mean by

743
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: that is we had this unit that got back from

744
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 1: the Middle East and they had to send all the

745
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: personnel into quarantine and they're like, hey, you guys. The

746
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: normal thing would stick him in the barracks for two

747
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: weeks at the end of a deployment. And the command

748
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: is like, hey, I got this ability to reach out

749
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 1: and interact with you, I'm gonna send you a home

750
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: to your families. Instead, you get an extra two weeks

751
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: at VID your families, you can quarantine at home, and

752
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 1: I can check in on you every single day. And

753
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 1: so there's this like kind of contract. It's like, yeah,

754
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: it gives a bit more control to the commanda, but

755
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: what that means is the Kimondic can assume a little

756
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: bit more risk, which gives a little bit more freedom

757
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: to the actual personnel. And so that's just like really

758
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: really nice, nice interaction, right, So it's not just it's

759
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: not just a knife hand but it's like a handshake

760
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: that's actually a nice I hate to say a booze

761
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: them to lay on, but you know, if there's nothing

762
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: like getting healed by your family when you are ill,

763
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,320
Speaker 1: or you know, having that extra time to be around

764
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: that creature comfort of some chicken soup, because it's just

765
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 1: not in a training environment right there, Like all right, well,

766
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 1: if you have to quarantine, go home, we'll talk to

767
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: you daily and make sure you're alive, and that you know,

768
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,359
Speaker 1: through the app, through like a secure channel, so it's

769
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: just not blasted out there. And that's what you guys

770
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: helped provide. I think that's awesome, right, And so it

771
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,319
Speaker 1: just goes again like Tang was used on the Space

772
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: Shuttle and then in my school lunches, it's like the

773
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Caprice Son it's like, you know, just the inner at

774
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 1: the things that we take for granted comes from a

775
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: military application to a practical application. Yeah, you guys are

776
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 1: just leading the way. There's nothing wrong with being in

777
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: the forefront of trying to, you know, be a part

778
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: of the Internet when she's not even thirty years old yet.

779
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: This is the wild thing is that a lot of

780
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: this was traditionally you know, the d D is leading

781
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 1: the way. They leading the way. We're actually saying it's like, hey,

782
00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that we're doing is consumers. A

783
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: lot of stuff we do in the private sector is

784
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: actually kind of leading the way on some of this stuff.

785
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 1: And so this is what we're saying, Hey, we've got

786
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:35,799
Speaker 1: a responsibility as Americans to actually bring this from the

787
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: private sector. These kinds of technologies that you don't get

788
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: to do this without the cloud, you don't get to

789
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:43,400
Speaker 1: do this without like a lot of the tooling and

790
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: the infrastructure that's been built up to support business to

791
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: business and stuff like that. And we're saying, like, let's

792
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: actually take that and let's use this to actually build

793
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:54,960
Speaker 1: our platform to deliver this. Two people in the military,

794
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: and so I think there's a sort of role REVEUSSEL

795
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: that's taking place. But we're trying to bring this innovation

796
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 1: that's coming from the private sector and then deliver that

797
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: packaged in a way where people can understand it and

798
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: use it where it solves the daily problems in the military.

799
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,319
Speaker 1: And that's something that I think is it's a new

800
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: trend because so much of the post was always the

801
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: duds leading the way on stuff, and now it's it's

802
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of the other way in some places.

803
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and uh, I mean it's it's a helpful tool, right,

804
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 1: so if it can help the mission, you know, then

805
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:26,439
Speaker 1: why would it not just well, I'm not gonna say anything.

806
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: I don't want to jinx it because you know, I

807
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 1: understand the government contracts sectors very very interesting with its ways.

808
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: So I just hope and expect the best out of

809
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,640
Speaker 1: you guys with your your movement, you know. And uh,

810
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,320
Speaker 1: I don't know what anyone else expects from you, but

811
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: I expect the best. Okay, that's what I expect, and

812
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,920
Speaker 1: I want you know, my expectations said, and I know

813
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 1: you've got America first and foremost, and and your global

814
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: veterans that are allied with us first and foremost, and

815
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:59,880
Speaker 1: you know, the business leaders who come from those environments

816
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: that become the use of tomorrow who are out of

817
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: the military can see this application used in their regular

818
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 1: business environment as well if it's needed. Right, Boy, what

819
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 1: a great, a great tool, you know, and from two

820
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 1: dudes who have been in the environment that need to

821
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: know that it works the most. Now being a Green

822
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 1: Beret both of you guys, you're both airborn. Now within

823
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:29,400
Speaker 1: the Green Barret culture, there is still a higher echelon

824
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: of Green Beret. Okay, You've got it's like just getting

825
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 1: to the Green Berets one thing, right, and then you've

826
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: got combat certified scuba and then you've got like halo

827
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 1: on top of that, and then you've got is there

828
00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 1: anything else that I'm missing other than like, you know,

829
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,280
Speaker 1: what are the other CERTs within the SF community? Sniper?

830
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Is that one? Yeah? So I the Marine Corps likes

831
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: to joke with army folks who call us boy scouts

832
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: because we have like badges and what my son calls

833
00:40:58,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: flair for all of our inform stuff. But um, yeah, man,

834
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 1: it was a bit of a surprise. I think it's

835
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: something I started to figure out during the que course, right,

836
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: Like throughout trading, there's always like this s curve of

837
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 1: like proficiency where it's like I can just like get

838
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: through infantry school, then I'll be a cool guy. If

839
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: I can just get through airborne school, then I'll be

840
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: a cool guy. If I can just finish the que course,

841
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: then I'll be a cool guy. Right, What they don't

842
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 1: tell you, It's like there's always somebody cooler, Like there's

843
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,439
Speaker 1: always another another badge and other skill set right out

844
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:36,280
Speaker 1: there for you to go get. It's like somebody's always cooler,

845
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: for sure. But I think James and I were both

846
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: on free faul teams and did some other specialized stuff

847
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: that was a lot of fun. Did you ever have

848
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: a m you know, an airborne mishap any type of

849
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,919
Speaker 1: like a close call free falling like a weapon catch

850
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: or anything. No, I never did, I and I ended

851
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: up with. I mean, for the time I was in

852
00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: it was pretty active jumping and got a chance to

853
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: go to like the free fall GM course and then

854
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: an advanced course that they were doing out at Numa

855
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: in those days. Probably like the worst jump incident I had.

856
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: We were doing high outitute high Opening out at Yuma

857
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,160
Speaker 1: and like you hopp and pop right, I don't know

858
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 1: where we're pulling was like right off the ramp. I

859
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 1: don't know what jumped out to. It was probably like

860
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: twelve thirteen or something. But I got off heading right,

861
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: so like you're meant to be under canopies, right, I

862
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: don't know, like forty five minutes. It comes on a

863
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: long time, and so like I got off heading and

864
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: was like tracking generally toward Mexico and ended up landing

865
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: like I don't know, half mile away from the rest

866
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: of my at the border patrol was gonna have to come. Yeah.

867
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: It was like dark, right, and like I kind of

868
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: firmed the wrong way after opening, and I thought I

869
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:53,960
Speaker 1: was following everybody else and at some point it's like

870
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't know where they all went. And then I

871
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: found him, couldn't catch him. It was kind of a mess,

872
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: but the border troll did not pick me up. They

873
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: came and found me and everything was okay. It was

874
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: it was a little embarrassing. Yeah, they have the high

875
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: altitude hey high opening ha ho, and then the halo

876
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: out there in Arizona. I I do know. I was

877
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna ask and you said Yuma, and I was like, okay, yeah,

878
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: you went through that whole I just the things I

879
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: know in my head. It's it's incredible. But yeah, that's awesome, dude.

880
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm so stoked to talk about that. And then what

881
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: about what about you, James? What did you? Or you

882
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: know what what did you? What did you? I'm intrigued

883
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: to think about which story j J chose to tell

884
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 1: about about parachuting because there was another one. But don't

885
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: do it, don't do it, I guess. Uh. I was

886
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: in Thailand and we were doing a jump loster training

887
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: and so it was actually this was like just static line.

888
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: So it was like you just like one person that

889
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: jumps out the side of a plane. And so I'm

890
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,280
Speaker 1: like hanging out the side of the see one thirty

891
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 1: like looking for like the little lights in the ground.

892
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 1: It was a nighttime and there wasn't any moon out,

893
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: so it's just doc. I see my my dots and

894
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 1: it's kind of like a bus stop. You're like, oh,

895
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: this is my stop. Jump out the plane and and

896
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 1: then like my parachute deploys and then I go to

897
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: like take control of it and there's like all this

898
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: just like and string just coming out in my hands.

899
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, like huh, this is definitely supposed to

900
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:19,879
Speaker 1: be part of this, and so then you go into

901
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: your emergency proceivers like this is that you're not thinking

902
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 1: like that, like got a whole bunch of string. I

903
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: don't need that string. And so they're like, all right, Well,

904
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: the first thing you do is you look up and

905
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: you count your suspension lines. And I look up and

906
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,080
Speaker 1: it's nighttime and there's no moon and I can't see anything.

907
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, that's off. And then they're like, compare

908
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,359
Speaker 1: your rate of ascent to other jumpers. So I look

909
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: around and I'm not the only dude in the sky

910
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 1: because I was the only guy on the jump pass.

911
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: It's all right, not that, and so then it's like,

912
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 1: all right, deployer result. I'm all right the deployer result.

913
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: This must have been like five feet at this point

914
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: or something like that. So fortunately the reserve comes out

915
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 1: and like I kind of like land in the middle

916
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: of this this like swamp, and I hear one of

917
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: the medics running overs. Dude, you gotta get out of that.

918
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: There's just like heat, vipers and snakes all over that place.

919
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: It's like packing my stuff up and run out of it.

920
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: And then the parachute rigga he comes over and he

921
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: looks at this and he just looks at the parachute

922
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: and the missing pieces of strings, like, huh, I thought

923
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: we got all of those. That was just the deal. Like,

924
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: that's just the deal. And I think this is like

925
00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: where it comes down to. You just try to think

926
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,080
Speaker 1: back to what you need to know and you just

927
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: do your job at the time, and you know, you

928
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: don't think about consequences. You just think about doing the

929
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: right thing at the moment. And I think that's that's

930
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 1: what we learned. And it comes back to that and

931
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 1: everything in life. So you can think about the good

932
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: things that can happen, you can think about the bad

933
00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: things you can happen, you can think about just doing

934
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: a job. Like we just try to do our job

935
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: and do our job at that time. Yeah, Vipers, I

936
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: don't care. I'm trying to live and land and you know,

937
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: get why do I have string in my hand? You know,

938
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 1: it's like I thought you got all those, bro, Like

939
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: brow it was it was a brand new it was

940
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: kind of experimental parachute. So that was I guess hopefully

941
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: that was the last one. Stop dude, full stop, bro.

942
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Now did you jump out of a

943
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: hot air balloon while you were over there with the tie.

944
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: Did you ever get to do that experience? No? This

945
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: was this was all like see you on thirties because

946
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 1: we were doing jumping with them, We did some skydiving

947
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 1: with them, and they were just cool people and it

948
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: was something that I really appreciated seeing it. You've got

949
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 1: people from around the world, but do just want to

950
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: protect other people and you get to be part of

951
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:26,800
Speaker 1: this big club, but just trying to protect other people.

952
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:29,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, behind me over on my mantel,

953
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 1: I have my dad's tie jump wings that he got

954
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 1: where he didn't the ones with Yeah, dude, and he's

955
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,399
Speaker 1: got this big red cord with this long gold I'll

956
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 1: tell you what if you want to stop people at

957
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 1: a Veterans Affair thing for Veterans Day in your uniform

958
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,280
Speaker 1: where that red with gold tassel and big old elephant

959
00:46:48,360 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 1: thing on and people come up to you. Hey, plus

960
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: he had a beret. I didn't quite put the two together,

961
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, as a young kid walking around dad. You know,

962
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: but every five minutes like hey, how you doing? Can

963
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: we talk? Every two minutes, it's like, let's get out

964
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 1: of here. You'd say let's go. It's like all right, Dad,

965
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: no problem, No, I love that. So thanks for going

966
00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: over to Thailand and doing your job over there. He

967
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: was always involved in that Operation Cobra Gold, which is

968
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: like an annual style training environment. And again with the

969
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 1: nineteenth group, that was his theater of operation was the

970
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 1: whole Spacific, that whole island, the Philippines. So when you

971
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: say the Philippines and Thailand, I'm like flashbacking for my dad.

972
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,280
Speaker 1: That's awesome. It was amazing experience, right, and we're grateful

973
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: for Do you guys have Instagram or anything that somebody

974
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: could follow and learn more about you or hit you

975
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: up if they're interested in maybe sharing that they can code. Yeah,

976
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: so a Google of either the company name A d

977
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: U y t O N, we'll bring them to us.

978
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: There are well, there's an instant page of Twitter account

979
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: or to linked in, like alternatively just Google mustard. In

980
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 1: US t R we managed to say it's probably like

981
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,879
Speaker 1: they're gone of thing. This is just like a paid

982
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: advertisement or something. All the times we managed to but yeah,

983
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: my Google mustroom you see more, especially like about the company,

984
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: like we are always like actively looking for venters who

985
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,160
Speaker 1: are looking to figure out the transition and kind of

986
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 1: find a way to contribute, especially in kind of a

987
00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: high tech world. But yeah, give us, give us a

988
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: Google and their links that way to all the social

989
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: media profiles where folks that kind of stay up to

990
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: date in terms of what we're doing with different military

991
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: units around the country. Perfect, and James, do you have

992
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: any thing to add to that? I would say, this

993
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: is just you know, for us, this is our mission, right,

994
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: and so we always want to talk with other folks

995
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 1: who resonate with this, right if it's folks who are

996
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 1: in the service, like, hey, like I just want to

997
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: talk about ideas to make things better in my you know,

998
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 1: my change. Come on, we'll share what we've learned from

999
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 1: other units, um and whether they want to use our

1000
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:59,719
Speaker 1: software or not. Like that inconsequential, right, Like we're just

1001
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:02,640
Speaker 1: trying to make it better. That's awesome. And again I

1002
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,359
Speaker 1: think that if you're looking for somebody that can help

1003
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: you throw down some code, and you know, and you're

1004
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: a veteran out there, you can reach out to these

1005
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: guys add Aton and see if your resume meets up

1006
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 1: with whatever they may be looking for. They're gonna probably

1007
00:49:14,080 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: understand you coming from the military. You're looking at three

1008
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: veterans on this screen right now that have transitioned into

1009
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: entrepreneur lives. Okay, and you can reach out to me

1010
00:49:26,239 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: and jog my brain at rat rocking on Instagram, and

1011
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't mind reaching out to you. If you just

1012
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: want to talk and you don't have Mustard and you

1013
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 1: want to reach out, feel free to say hi to me.

1014
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: I talked to everybody I try to. You got something

1015
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,400
Speaker 1: to say, say it so you know you're not alone.

1016
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:43,319
Speaker 1: We're out here. I know you can do twenty two

1017
00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:44,960
Speaker 1: push ups to day or you try, and I don't

1018
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 1: know what much that does, except mentally you're trying to

1019
00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 1: do something. But reaching out to your neighbor or your

1020
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: friend can really go a long way, and kind of

1021
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,400
Speaker 1: something like Mustard just reaching out through a d M

1022
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, rad you don't know me, but I

1023
00:49:57,560 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: listened to your show. Can you talk me out of

1024
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: stoop decisions? Maybe give me a try? Yeah? Simple, So

1025
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: we keep doing your push ups, keep doing push ups,

1026
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 1: and we always say if you know somebody who might

1027
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 1: be having a hard time, just reach out, say hi.

1028
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: That's it. That's right, especially around the holidays, we all

1029
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: need someone that can care and uh you know on

1030
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: behalf of myself and team added in here with James

1031
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: and j J. It's been a pleasure to have you, gentlemen.

1032
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,280
Speaker 1: I've had you for about an hour of our time

1033
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: and I just want to say thanks again to my

1034
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: listener of soft Rep and soft Rep Radio and happy

1035
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: holidays to you and stay frosty piece. You've been listening

1036
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 1: to self Rep Radio.