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Speaker 4: the breaking news since we're live right now. Michale Bridges

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Speaker 9: No, I'm so excited, like I've been, like, I feel

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Speaker 1: I like it much more, bro, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Good basketball teams winning basketball that than't just like good duos.

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Speaker 2: If it doesn't make sense that that's the organizations that

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Speaker 3: It's so hilarious how the biggest moment they're like, yeah,

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Speaker 9: Now, yeah, they have to like take their like lunch

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Speaker 4: Miles in the chat just said, Damn John could fit

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Speaker 4: all the nets picks in that water bottle.

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Speaker 2: Every every water amino acids in here too, you know, No,

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Speaker 2: I got it in the yea.

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Speaker 1: But that's what the red is.

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Speaker 5: They're not allowed to the strawberry.

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Speaker 1: Flavored Oklahoma highly illegal Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: I love every joke they said about that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, they gave a lot of picks, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, But like the picture number two picks

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Speaker 5: That's it.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 5: Who who was it? That was? Was it Ron Artest

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Speaker 4: Just like you're talking about a fourteen year old, a

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Speaker 5: Know what I mean, Like, who gives a ship. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: But on on the other side of the coin, anti

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Speaker 1: polum the nets again.

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Speaker 3: We don't have the Buston Championship team without the nets

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm a firm believer if you, if you

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Speaker 3: They're gonna be like number eighteen, number twenty one, number

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Speaker 1: For sure.

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Speaker 9: Picks are over rated. We're in a climate apocalypse. Like,

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Speaker 5: The World Tour is back on.

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Speaker 1: Baby meme to.

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Speaker 9: World Tour meme Ye. Nothing could bring me greater joy

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Speaker 9: role I was born to play. Okay, So when Justin Timberlake,

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Speaker 9: do you hear that Justin Timberlake got arrested for GUI Okay,

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Speaker 9: The back of the cop car while he was waiting

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Speaker 9: what tour? And then Justin Timberlake was like the World

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Speaker 1: He didn't know who to fuck Justice like, was that

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Speaker 2: Good job, jen Zis? He says, that doesn't mean that too. Yeah, funny,

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Speaker 3: I was aware of the whole cop not knowing who

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Speaker 1: Like he doesn't give any special treatment to us. I'm like,

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Speaker 9: America.

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Speaker 5: Josh says. I'm not going to read this in a

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Speaker 5: New York accident.

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Speaker 4: Josh says he loves the trade Michale showed and Phoenix

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Speaker 4: you can play off ball, fantastic defender. This is real

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Speaker 4: basketball talk, Josh, what are we doing?

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Speaker 1: I like it. I like it to continue.

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Speaker 4: He says, move White Dante to the bench. He didn't

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Speaker 4: right there. He says he doesn't know if they can

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Speaker 5: We were saying before he.

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Speaker 7: You know, that's that's how you know.

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Speaker 7: So I feel like that's a factor.

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Speaker 4: I eat all that shit up, Like give us the

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Wow, let's go.

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Speaker 7: The New York exceptionalism, baby, Tyler.

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Speaker 5: Are they getting you back or what?

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Speaker 3: I don't think I'll ever be back, but I I

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Speaker 3: And it was the owner shift.

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Speaker 1: Though, where are you gonna go once Broun retires. I'm

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be a gonna be from players.

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Speaker 4: He's gonna be like every younger than us.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be like every basketball fan one day younger

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, okay, okay, so all players, Wow, okay, cool, cool.

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Speaker 4: Right, Tyler, You'll be like honest and and I mean,

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Speaker 3: Like we're gonna Winby's gonna be in like his fourth

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Speaker 3: You know you're gonna be a Spurs fan. I'm for

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Speaker 4: But yeah, Josh says, hashtag come home, Tyler.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I fuck with that eventful week in basketball with them.

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Speaker 9: which we're like, we know, like you're super online, like

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Speaker 9: we know you heard everything. You're like painfully online. But

442
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Speaker 9: but yeah, I thought it was like very it was

443
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Speaker 9: almost like a dramatic reading a little bit like with

444
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Speaker 9: the like a little pause in there too. He's like,

445
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Speaker 9: but I don't have a good answer for you because

446
00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:00,880
Speaker 9: I don't give a fuck.

447
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,080
Speaker 1: You know.

448
00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,840
Speaker 9: It was like he's He's perfect LA Lakers coach to me,

449
00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:06,760
Speaker 9: and that you know what I mean, Like he loves

450
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,240
Speaker 9: the spotlight, he loves the drama, like he's eating it up,

451
00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:13,040
Speaker 9: you know. So I feel like that's that's what Darvin Ham.

452
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Speaker 9: One of the many things that I think Darvinham was

453
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Speaker 9: lacking was just the ability to sort of I think

454
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Speaker 9: it's an understated important thing about being a head coaches.

455
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:23,120
Speaker 7: You're kind of the.

456
00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,240
Speaker 9: CEO in a lot of ways of the basketball team,

457
00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 9: and you're dealing with all the like communications and like

458
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Speaker 9: the public facing stuff and interfacing with the public and

459
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,280
Speaker 9: just being a basketball genius or being you know, a

460
00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,399
Speaker 9: good locker room guy doesn't mean that you're good at

461
00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 9: the like CEO responsibilities. And I think that's where a

462
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 9: lot of coaches end up falling short.

463
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Speaker 7: And I think obviously JJ is phenomenal at that.

464
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Speaker 3: So yeah, John Tyler answer, I was gonna say, you

465
00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,760
Speaker 3: asked the millennial who's need deep in NBA Twitter how

466
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Speaker 3: they felt about behaters.

467
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 1: Basically, you know he could resist. We know what Clouthie's

468
00:20:58,320 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 1: got from.

469
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Speaker 3: But in all seriousness, I think I think this you

470
00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 3: gave us an all time here. I think this quote

471
00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:06,160
Speaker 3: is going to follow JJ throughout his career. I truly

472
00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 3: believe that because you know, JJ says, you know, he

473
00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 3: isn't paying attention to the noise, but the noise is

474
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,399
Speaker 3: there and it's not going anywhere because the fact of

475
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,919
Speaker 3: the matter is he's an experiment. He's a risk. He's

476
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,280
Speaker 3: an incredible basketball mint, right he's but he's still he

477
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,040
Speaker 3: is still in a risk. You know, he's still an experiment.

478
00:21:20,040 --> 00:21:22,280
Speaker 3: They're still taking a gamble on And this quote is

479
00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,040
Speaker 3: going to follow him, Like it's either going to be

480
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:27,119
Speaker 3: you know, incredible for him in a thirty for thirty

481
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 3: when when we see how successful he's been as a coach,

482
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Speaker 3: or it's going to be like you said a SpongeBob

483
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Speaker 3: me one season later and going to this press conference when.

484
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Speaker 1: He's getting fired or whatever.

485
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Speaker 3: So so yeah, like like this is either going to

486
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Speaker 3: be like the most infamous shit he ever said or

487
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Speaker 3: the most badass shit he ever said.

488
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Speaker 4: I love I'd love to know if JJ or Tyler

489
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:46,600
Speaker 4: spend more time on Twitter.

490
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Speaker 1: Each day jobs than either. I think I think JJ

491
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Speaker 1: might be man JJ.

492
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Speaker 8: Oh.

493
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Speaker 5: I feel confident JJ's a burner boy for sure.

494
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Speaker 1: I think everybody.

495
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Speaker 2: I think every NBA player, you know, people that like

496
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 2: that are burner boys. For Shaw, got he got he

497
00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,200
Speaker 2: get his issue. You know what I'm saying. On the side,

498
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:06,080
Speaker 2: joint you feel me, But yeah, I was really I'm

499
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 2: not excited about this higher you know what I mean.

500
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Speaker 2: Like I told you, like I didn't want any experiments

501
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,480
Speaker 2: with Brian. I'm tired of the experiments. You've seen enough

502
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: of them. You know what I'm saying. I want to

503
00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 2: see him go out with at least somebody we know

504
00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: can give him a good shot. You don't know if

505
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,520
Speaker 2: they can do with the team necessary.

506
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Speaker 1: We can't. We can't. Yeah, I mean, neither of them

507
00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,359
Speaker 1: are available. But that's what I wanted, you know what

508
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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

509
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Speaker 2: But him, how he spoke, and him, I think it's

510
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,440
Speaker 2: necessary for like his coach to understand the situation, understand

511
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: all that people are talking, and know what people are saying,

512
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Speaker 2: and not give a fuck and that's very important because

513
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:41,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna be talking and you.

514
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Speaker 1: Have to not give a fuck.

515
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Speaker 2: So hearing that particular answer from the question you asked

516
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Speaker 2: like that made me more confident in his ability, you

517
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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, to maneuver as a head coach,

518
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: like you know, yes, but.

519
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Speaker 10: I mean I'm still not all the way in, but I.

520
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Speaker 2: Feel you have to have that that disposition in order

521
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Speaker 2: to be good at this job, particularly if you're a

522
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Speaker 2: fucking experiment.

523
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Speaker 1: This is your first year of a coaching and you

524
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Speaker 1: have that bright light on you.

525
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Speaker 2: I don't know if he actually does give a fuck,

526
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Speaker 2: like maybe you know, the next year, it turned out

527
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:11,200
Speaker 2: he did give a fuck.

528
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, He was tweaking under the

529
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Speaker 1: bright lights. But we'll find out.

530
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Speaker 2: And that's where I met with the situation is we'll

531
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Speaker 2: see my nigga. But I like how you answered the question.

532
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Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying, we're.

533
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Speaker 5: Speaking were.

534
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Speaker 4: That's one I feel like John was gonna give us

535
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Speaker 4: about three.

536
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Speaker 1: I had to do it. I had to do it.

537
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Speaker 9: Bro.

538
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Speaker 5: Sorry, we're where the three of you.

539
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,280
Speaker 4: Surprised at all that people still have the energy in

540
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Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, For the saying the F word at

541
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Speaker 4: a press conference is unbecoming of the head coach, Like,

542
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Speaker 4: were you surprised people still have that energy? Or John,

543
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Speaker 4: did you grow up in the church enough that it

544
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Speaker 4: didn't It didn't surprise you.

545
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Speaker 1: I grew up in church, but I was still cussing.

546
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: They also say, Lewis, we cursed it in the second

547
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,479
Speaker 2: in the sanctuary.

548
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,560
Speaker 10: I was in the church yesterday cursed the.

549
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Speaker 1: Yes.

550
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Speaker 10: But anyway, brother, No, I feel like I'm surprised.

551
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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised.

552
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: I think being on Twitter as like, you can't surprise

553
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 2: me how weird you are when your perceptions.

554
00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, it's just f bombs? Who

555
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: gives a fuck? You know what I mean?

556
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Speaker 2: And I do think I do think he knows that

557
00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 2: that would have got people's attention as well, and he

558
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 2: still said it. And I think that is a part

559
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Speaker 2: of having the disposition that's necessary as well, because you're

560
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 2: gonna have to make some decisions and people are not

561
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 2: gonna like you have to be comfortable in that ship

562
00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,119
Speaker 2: as well. And after he showed that he knew what

563
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,679
Speaker 2: the reaction was gonna be, he knew that people are

564
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 2: gonna it's gonna light the Internet on fire.

565
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Speaker 1: But he also knew he was gonna get some blowback

566
00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,120
Speaker 1: and he didn't care, and.

567
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 3: It was also necessary. I don't care doesn't hit the

568
00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 3: same as I don't give a fuck.

569
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Speaker 5: No, yeah, it doesn't.

570
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:55,000
Speaker 1: No, I don't give a fuck. That got that got

571
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: a stamp on it. You feel.

572
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Speaker 9: Like spicing like when he said, like I really don't

573
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 9: give a fuck, you know, like that.

574
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,880
Speaker 1: New York. Yeah, you know what I mean.

575
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 9: I'm not surprised at all, just because like when you

576
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,320
Speaker 9: say the sky is blue on Twitter, there are always

577
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 9: people in your mentions like how do you know? Have

578
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 9: you like have you been up there? Like you know

579
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,240
Speaker 9: what I mean, So everything you say, there's gonna be

580
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 9: people who have a problem with it. And also, if

581
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 9: there's one thing I've learned from being active on NBA Twitter,

582
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 9: it's like the amount of like herb fucking couch GM

583
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 9: like pearl clutching assholes that there are out there is

584
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 9: like they proliferate. Man, There's so many of them, and

585
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 9: they're just like, how dare you ruin the sanctity of

586
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 9: our press conflict? And they're they're literally working at like

587
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 9: Wells Fargo, you know, what I mean, and they're just

588
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 9: like back in my day, a press conference was. But yeah,

589
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 9: I'm not surprised at all. People are gonna find something

590
00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 9: to be They would have taken umbrage with something in

591
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 9: that press comp friends, And of course that was the

592
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 9: spiciest thing he said, because he was so composed and

593
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 9: poised and whatever, and so they were just sort of

594
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 9: like reaching for anything to I think be upset about.

595
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 9: But he just because you win the press conference doesn't

596
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 9: mean you're going to be a great coach. But I

597
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,280
Speaker 9: do think that he absolutely won the press conference.

598
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I listened to there's a political podcast I listened

599
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 4: to if someone made the point because the presidential debates

600
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 4: are coming up in I think two days here, and

601
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 4: this is a guy who's a former advisor to President

602
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,199
Speaker 4: Obama said, it's so weird that we use debates as

603
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 4: a way to select a president because there's no analog

604
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 4: to the job. So the president never debates anyone about anything.

605
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 4: You listen to policy pitches, you listen to three or

606
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 4: four different ideas, and you pick one and you tell

607
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 4: people what to do. You don't sit down with the

608
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: president of Germany to hash shit out one on one

609
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 4: like that only happens at the debate, and I feel like, similarly,

610
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: there's nothing else to judge JJ Redick on because he's

611
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,680
Speaker 4: only done a press conferen as a head coach.

612
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,639
Speaker 5: He hasn't coached a game. They still haven't decided.

613
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 4: It sounds like if he's gonna coach in the summer

614
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 4: League or not, et cetera, et cetera.

615
00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 5: But I think there's a little more analog.

616
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 4: To coaching with the press conference because of what you

617
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 4: talked about John with this the CEO thing. Do you

618
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 4: guys think this means anything that he did well at

619
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: the press conference or is it just it's the only

620
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: thing we have to talk about right now.

621
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Speaker 3: I mean, coaching is persuading people, right, and I think

622
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 3: all of us got a little persuaded, like, Okay, he

623
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 3: might he might have what it takes.

624
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 1: We'll see, right.

625
00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: I don't think anyone came out of this with all

626
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,440
Speaker 3: he's not the guy confirmed right, Like, no, no, he

627
00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: for sure you know, tilted the scales in his favorite

628
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 3: bit to how he might possibly be the That's like

629
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,160
Speaker 3: I said, coaching, A big part of coaching is interpersonal relationships.

630
00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 3: How you relate to me, how you resonate with people,

631
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: and he resonated with us during this press.

632
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,600
Speaker 2: CO Also like one thing about Darvin is when he

633
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 2: would talk after making a decision, he just.

634
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 10: Added more frustration.

635
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 2: Like I think he'll be able to He'll understand the

636
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 2: situation and be like, Okay, yes I'll fucked up speak

637
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 2: to it and speak how it's.

638
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: Going to be changed, you know what I'm saying.

639
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, so at least I can be comfortable in those

640
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 2: situations where you know, like he's going to give me something,

641
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, in the inn, these type

642
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 2: of situations where I need to hear you, you know,

643
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: say say something in particular to like changing what happened

644
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,880
Speaker 2: where I think Darvin was just avoiding shit.

645
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:21,119
Speaker 1: I don't think we have to worry about that.

646
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 2: But with JJ so I think I think like having him,

647
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: you know, after during tough times, after difficult games, you

648
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 2: know on the mic, you know, being him will be

649
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: much more comforting what we had. But I mean, that

650
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: doesn't I still give. I don't care about that as much.

651
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 2: I really, you know, I want to see what he

652
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 2: does in the game, you know what I mean.

653
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 9: Yeah, for sure, we'll see the other thing he said

654
00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 9: that I thought was either like a really good sign

655
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,480
Speaker 9: or just a sign that he's smart and knows the

656
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,080
Speaker 9: right things to say in that moment, which it is

657
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 9: kind of hard to differentiate sometimes in that scenario, is

658
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 9: he said, like right off the bat, basically like I

659
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 9: know what the expectations are when you coach Los Angeles Lakers.

660
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 9: It's like championship or by every single year, Like this

661
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 9: is a team that expects championships. And I like understand that,

662
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,320
Speaker 9: and that's that's the expectation and that's what I signed

663
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 9: up for. And I think that was a huge point

664
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 9: of emphasis with Darvin, and especially like when I was

665
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 9: reporting on him getting fired, Like what I kept hearing

666
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 9: from people as sort of the like turning point where

667
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 9: things started to go south for him with the Lakers

668
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 9: was when he had that response in that press conference

669
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 9: where he was like, people are living and dying with

670
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 9: every game, and that's just this is not the organization

671
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 9: for you. If people in living and dying with every

672
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 9: game and having a super impassioned fan base is daunting

673
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 9: for you. Like this is one of the most famous, storied,

674
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 9: beloved franchises in all of sports, and their fans are

675
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 9: extremely passionate and have extremely high expectations. So I thought

676
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 9: JJ like leaning into that in that press conference and

677
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 9: setting the tone for that was really smart.

678
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: On his hat said why do people care so much?

679
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: Is unacceptable? We saw Charlotte, you feel that over.

680
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 4: There, we said on the pot after he said that,

681
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,960
Speaker 4: he fired himself when he said that. I mean, it's

682
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 4: just like, you're the coach of the Lakers. Yes, people

683
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 4: are living and dying with every game. That is, like,

684
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 4: whether you think they're framing or not, that's your fans.

685
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, that's the job, like the Yankees and Lakers.

686
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,920
Speaker 3: That's the holy trinity of American sports fandomp you know.

687
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: Tarry Like, yes, it's you know, like people talk about like, oh,

688
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 4: like are the expectations realistic for Dak Prescott or Tony

689
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 4: rom or whatever.

690
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 5: They're the fucking coach. They're the quarterback of the fucking Cowboys.

691
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 10: Know that.

692
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: But guess what I mean.

693
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 4: You you have a guaranteed uh color commentator job after

694
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 4: you retire. You got all the endorsement deals you want.

695
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 4: It's the same thing with the Lakers. JJ Reddick's getting

696
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 4: eight million dollars a year as a guy who has

697
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 4: never coached in the NBA. It's there's there's there's enough

698
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 4: upside that I don't really feel too bad for people

699
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: who are bothered by the pressure the intensity. To that point,

700
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 4: the Jackson's put in the chat a poll, will JJ

701
00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 4: Reddick be thought of as a successful Lakers coach? Fifty

702
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,960
Speaker 4: four percent of people say no. Frank Vogel won a

703
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 4: championship and got fired. So I think that's a fair response.

704
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: But what do you guys think of that? People think

705
00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 4: JJ Redick will not be thought of as a successful

706
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: Lakers coach in our chat.

707
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:16,719
Speaker 3: I think it goes back to the conversation we had

708
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: where we were like, we want the Lakers to do

709
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: right by Bron. We want the Lakers to get a coach,

710
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 3: and they was gonna get you know, do right by Bron.

711
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 3: And my whole thing is, yes, JJ doesn't have any experience.

712
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 3: We all know that, but what if this is the

713
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: guy that Bron. I'm not buying for a second that

714
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 3: they weren't fucking communicating or whatever.

715
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: You know. I know we know for sure that oh.

716
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 4: Claire, who who groaned in the in the fresh conference

717
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: when they said when JJ said Lebron and I did

718
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 4: not discuss.

719
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 9: It I don't know because I was sitting in the

720
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 9: way back, but honestly, like so I would have agreed

721
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 9: with you, and like because like common sense and logic

722
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 9: would indicate that this was like who Lebron wanted to.

723
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 7: Be the coach.

724
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 9: I have heard some stuff in the last couple of

725
00:31:56,760 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 9: days that makes me think that that might not be

726
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:01,000
Speaker 9: the case.

727
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: I think, yeah, I think the work around they'reusing here

728
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 3: is you know, I wasn't calling him after interviews and

729
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 3: we were comparing notes. No, but we all the implication

730
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 3: they wanted us to have as Brown was hands off.

731
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 3: He wasn't saying who his guy was, and that's bullshit.

732
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 3: We all know his guy was JJ. He's doing a

733
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: fucking podcast with the dude, you know, like, bro, this

734
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 3: is not a conspiracy. There a podcast and the theme

735
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 3: of the podcast is we see basketball at a higher

736
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 3: level than most people.

737
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 4: Like come on, though, hypothetically if you were coaching in

738
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 4: a championship game.

739
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 9: That was so funny and he's like for your kids,

740
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 9: I mean that was hilarious. I just like I'm starting

741
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 9: to get and maybe this is just me Like this

742
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 9: is like PTSD, like you know, abandoned min issues or

743
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 9: something but I'm starting to get a little bit like

744
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 9: I'm starting to feel like there's a little bit more credence.

745
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 7: To the idea that he could leave.

746
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 9: I'm not like rewarding anything or like breaking any news

747
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 9: or anything, but like I was definitely in the camp

748
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 9: of like, there's no way he's going anywhere.

749
00:32:58,240 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 7: He's coming back to the Lakers.

750
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 9: I still say I I would say I feel probably

751
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 9: seventy five percent confident that that's the case, But I

752
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 9: don't feel like it's completely outside the realm of possibility.

753
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 5: I don't say that for leave.

754
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: Now.

755
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 9: If that's the case, then I don't I don't know.

756
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 9: I think, I mean, let me put it this way.

757
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 9: If he ends up leaving, then we'll know that he

758
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,560
Speaker 9: wasn't directly involved in the JJ higher, you know. But

759
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 9: I mean I would say it's still like, I hope

760
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 9: this doesn't get aggregated. I I really think it's probably still,

761
00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 9: by leaps and bounds, the most likely outcome that he

762
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 9: will stay. But I wouldn't be like, I wouldn't be

763
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 9: like completely bold over if he didn't.

764
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: I guess, I know, Mike, you were talking about, is

765
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: this the next pat Riley could be?

766
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 5: You feel me, like, I think we were thinking sold it.

767
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: But for me, I'm looking at pat Riley's team. Look

768
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: at the team that he you know what I'm saying,

769
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 2: that he had, you know that he took on. You

770
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: feel me like, this is not that team, bro, So

771
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 2: will he be successful? I mean it's it's I don't

772
00:33:58,240 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't think it's set up for him to be

773
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: with the team they have. You know what I'm saying,

774
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 2: the years it brought bronze in year forty, what are

775
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 2: they going to add for him?

776
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sorry for you?

777
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah, right right right.

778
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, I don't I don't

779
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 2: see it being I don't think it's a successful team

780
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: with or without him.

781
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: Oh so, actually, can.

782
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 9: I can I actually throw topic at your guys because

783
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 9: I wanted after the press conference, I thought of something

784
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 9: that I wanted to talk to you guys about. How

785
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 9: did you guys feel about the fact that I felt

786
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 9: like Rob and I feel like this isn't getting covered

787
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 9: a lot, but partially because of that viral JJ quote.

788
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 9: But I thought Rob was sort of like starting to

789
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 9: set the scene for them not making many aggressive changes

790
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 9: this summer, and like at the trade deadline, I remember

791
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 9: him being like, Oh, we're gonna we're saving our picks

792
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 9: because we're gonna have three picks then in the summer,

793
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 9: in the off season, and then we can like make

794
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 9: a real big move that's actually going to move the needle.

795
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 7: And then Rob talked I don't know.

796
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 9: If you guys watched the full press conference, but he

797
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 9: talked a lot about how difficult the second Apron was

798
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 9: going to make trades and how they're going to lean

799
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 9: into player development and like very much.

800
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 7: Was changing his tune on that.

801
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 9: And also it felt like sort of tempering expectations for

802
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 9: how aggressive they were going to be. And I'm like, yo,

803
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 9: so help me god, as a Lebron James fan, like,

804
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 9: if you guys, if you guys don't use at least

805
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 9: two of those three available picks this summer to make

806
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 9: this roster better, that is elder abuse.

807
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 7: That is malpractice.

808
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

809
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: Well, I think Rob might have been maybe trying to

810
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 3: send a message to the roster because sam Ami dropped

811
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,919
Speaker 3: the report that said Bron and Ad won another guy

812
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 3: there today, you know, So so yeah, I think that

813
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 3: might be you know, the route that Rob is going

814
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,520
Speaker 3: but I don't think that the team's on board with that,

815
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 3: especially not Broun.

816
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 9: So what I'm saying, like, is this all buttoned up

817
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 9: and ready to go? Like if Rob I mean, and

818
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 9: again I'm like, I'm not trying to start shit, but

819
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 9: just while I'm talking to like my smart friends that

820
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 9: know basketball, I'm like curious to get your guys thoughts,

821
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 9: Like if Rob is sort of signaling like, Okay, we're

822
00:35:58,040 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 9: not going to be aggressive, We're gonna and we're going

823
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 9: to this first time head coach with no experience that's

824
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 9: like all about player. We want him to develop players,

825
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 9: and we're talking about like Austin Reeves and et cetera.

826
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,160
Speaker 9: Max Christie, Like, how would that? How would you feel

827
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,520
Speaker 9: if you're Lebron? And that's like all of the messaging

828
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 9: that's coming out of Lakers and he is a free

829
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 9: agent right now. He has not committed yet, So I'm

830
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,239
Speaker 9: just like, I think this is just a little bit spicier.

831
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 9: It potentially is a little bit spicier than we thought.

832
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 9: That's that's my taking.

833
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 3: It could be it could be amployed to try to

834
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: get Bron to bring that number down.

835
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: So if you do want help, I mean, you know

836
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 1: what I mean.

837
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 4: Well, but but but listen, I'm not a guy should

838
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 4: take cuts for the team. But let's do the math here.

839
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 4: The apron is the second aprons one hundred and ninety.

840
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 4: Broun and eighty are making eighty million something like that,

841
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: four fifty.

842
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 7: Lass more than that so year, yeah, yeah.

843
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 5: I mean one hundred.

844
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 4: I've never been on rock linkas side over Lebron James.

845
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 4: But the math is a math. But you know, and

846
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 4: and he's he's being honest when he says we can't

847
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,600
Speaker 4: trade for a third star. We're gonna have forty dollars

848
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 4: to pay the other thirteen guys.

849
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 6: Also, the thing is, so that's not how you win, No,

850
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 6: not right, that's that's not how you not right now,

851
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 6: these are too good the depth they have the throw

852
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 6: out three good players now three guys, and when a

853
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 6: champion should be more.

854
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way.

855
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 4: And that's the problem with what the NBPA let the

856
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: league get away with with this CBA, isn't it. No

857
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,680
Speaker 4: one had the warning for this, and what it feels

858
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 4: like to me, And this is where I think the

859
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 4: Knick's getting a Michae Bridges is so big. It was

860
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 4: like musical chairs for the role players who win you

861
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: championships and.

862
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 5: The music stopped.

863
00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:45,000
Speaker 4: So it's like KCP is in Denver, Drew Holliday is

864
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:47,959
Speaker 4: in Boston, is going to New York.

865
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 5: Like those dudes aren't out there.

866
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 1: It's gonna feel like the nineties.

867
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 5: Bro, you can't pay for one of them. It's not

868
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 5: set up for you to do that anymore. So it is.

869
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I think this is gonna have really big

870
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 4: shockwaves out the NBA and an unfortunate thing for Rob Polinka,

871
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 4: which he knows, which is why I think he was

872
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 4: doing so much of that at the press conference. Is

873
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 4: Lakers fans don't give a fuck. Yeah, Lakers fans aren't

874
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 4: going to sensitively learn about the new collective bargaining agreements

875
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 4: impact on team' stability to say.

876
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 9: I mean, I will say, don't because this shit's fucking

877
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 9: boring and like we only do it because it's our job,

878
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,319
Speaker 9: so like, please don't just like worry about it when

879
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:23,080
Speaker 9: you see the roster.

880
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think there will be some I don't know,

881
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 4: I think there will be some things to worry about. Okay,

882
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 4: My question, my last question you guys on JJ Reddick

883
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 4: before before we say goodbye to it to clear, is

884
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 4: JJ Reddick gonna win an NBA championship with the Los

885
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 4: Angeles Lakers.

886
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 9: No, that's a hard question for me to answer because

887
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 9: I want one thing to be true, damn. But I

888
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 9: also talk about this for a living and know what

889
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 9: the league looks like right now.

890
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 7: I'm going to say yes. I'm going to say yes.

891
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 9: Just because I'd rather be wrong about that than right

892
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 9: about saying no.

893
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:57,879
Speaker 7: Do you know what I mean?

894
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 5: I do know what you mean.

895
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna copy paste your answer into my answer.

896
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: I think no.

897
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,760
Speaker 3: I think he I think he can be a successful coach.

898
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 3: I do not think that he can lead this roster

899
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 3: to a championship as it's constructed now.

900
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: It might change if he does.

901
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 4: You're we're gonna have to give him some credit because

902
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,359
Speaker 4: it's gonna require RUI to take a huge step. It's

903
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 4: going to require I mean, it's gonna require some legitimate

904
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 4: player development.

905
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 3: HEYSI, Bro, he would have that press comed you gotta

906
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 3: get your ass on the boards. Bro, what are you doing?

907
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,239
Speaker 3: Like he said, he wants to see more rebound from

908
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: that dude.

909
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 2: So, I mean, if he does put a statue of

910
00:39:38,040 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 2: him in Nai you know what I mean.

911
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 1: Give a statue, but.

912
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 7: Just you know the practice facility.

913
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 1: Yes, okay, ye, statue of one of the AI joints.

914
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

915
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 2: Give him there the Philadelphia treatment, give him give him

916
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 2: the bobblehead treatment.

917
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 1: You feels all right?

918
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 4: Well, Claire, thank you so much. It's always a pleasure

919
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 4: when you come on the show. We appreciate you giving

920
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 4: us an inside scoop and uh and everyone go follow

921
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: Claire if you're not already doing it.

922
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 5: We appreciate you propping on. Thank you so much.

923
00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 1: You guys appreciate you.

924
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 4: Awesome, always awesome having claar on. And I want to

925
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 4: make it super clear as we transition into the other topic,

926
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 4: Claire did not like ask to be uh excluded from

927
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 4: this conversation. She's not like afraid to talk about it

928
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 4: at all. I think Jackson thinks, the producers of the

929
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: show think. And it's very obvious that the strength of

930
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: the show is Jenkins and Jones and the perspective that

931
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 4: you guys have on sports and that.

932
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 5: You have on topics of race in sports, and the

933
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 5: allegation that.

934
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: Was made against JJ Reddick today that he called a

935
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 4: black woman an n word while he was in college

936
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 4: at Duke. And it's just our feeling as a producer's

937
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 4: the show. It's a producer's feeling that we don't need

938
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 4: me and Claire chopping that up with y'all. That's that's

939
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 4: you two have the perspective on that. And so I

940
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 4: turned the floor over to you, John, and what you

941
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: wanted to talk about.

942
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: On the pod?

943
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 2: No, No, go ahead, tell them. I just, I just

944
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,360
Speaker 2: I also want to say I didn't want.

945
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 1: To ruin Claire's career is going really well.

946
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say what the fuck I feel how I feel,

947
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And I want her to

948
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 2: be a part.

949
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: Of where we go. But Tyler, go ahead, go ahead. Yeah.

950
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: So I really want to pick my words wise here

951
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: because I feel like this discussion to be had here

952
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 3: is so much bigger than this JJ incident. And I

953
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: say that not to brush off the allegations against him,

954
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,520
Speaker 3: right like, I want to have a discussion here that's

955
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 3: bigger than the allegations while still holding space for that

956
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 3: young lady who came for for sure, you know, because

957
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 3: the thing is, the allegation against JJ wasn't a shocker

958
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: to me. It didn't surprise period, right, And I don't

959
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 3: want my words to be misconstrued here like like, oh,

960
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 3: I'll take in the stance of oh, I always knew

961
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 3: JJ was one of those guys, because that's not what

962
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 3: I'm saying. The sad truth of this is whenever allegations

963
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 3: like these get levied against a white person, when there's

964
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 3: a poof of a white person saying this word, I'm

965
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: very rarely surprised. And because another sad truth in the

966
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,239
Speaker 3: matter here is that damn near all of us black

967
00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: folks have a story of a white person calling us

968
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 3: that word, right, So this is not out of the

969
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: this is not in the realm of disbelief. And if

970
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 3: you're one of the lucky few black people who have

971
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 3: never experienced that, I sincerely hope you live the rest

972
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 3: of your days will ever having to experience that.

973
00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:32,319
Speaker 1: Right.

974
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 3: But what really really disappointed me, and again this didn't

975
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 3: surprise me either, because we've seen this all too often,

976
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: was the reaction that that young lady received, Like, if

977
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 3: you go take a look at her mentions, it is

978
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: like a fucking cesspool, bro, It's disgusting in there. And

979
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: I'm sure the lady who tweeted that knew exactly what

980
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 3: was going to happen because she tweeted that shit, and

981
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 3: she just kept tweeting like normal. Like I'm sure she

982
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 3: put that shit on mute and kept them moving, which

983
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 3: is the way to move on that hell hole.

984
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: Good for her mental health.

985
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,719
Speaker 3: But you know, like I said, the ship that I

986
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,399
Speaker 3: saw in her and her mentions, that was the ship

987
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 3: that disappointed me the most because it's the same fucking

988
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: script that we see far way too often. You know, well,

989
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 3: why did you wait this long? Where's your proof? What

990
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 3: did you do to make them call you that?

991
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 5: Right? Like?

992
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 3: Just nasty nasty work in those and her mentions, right,

993
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 3: And like I said, it's a script that we've seen

994
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:34,760
Speaker 3: played off far too often whenever accusations and allegations especially

995
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 3: against like prominent people, people in positions of power, come

996
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 3: out where you know that the people who are asking

997
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 3: these questions are not asking them from a place of

998
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: good faith. They are not asking these questions for clarification.

999
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,359
Speaker 3: They are asking to discredit. Because if you go take

1000
00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 3: a look at the mentions and you see the people

1001
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:51,040
Speaker 3: going hard on her to try to disprove it, go

1002
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 3: take a look at their timelines. Guarantee you'll see a

1003
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 3: fucking bron header or Kobe header or there a bunch

1004
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 3: of retweets about Laker ship, and you know, damn well,

1005
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:00,800
Speaker 3: if this was a self skoch, you got hit with

1006
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,080
Speaker 3: this ship their tune with they would have won eighty here, right,

1007
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 3: And And like I said, they're not having these these

1008
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,239
Speaker 3: these discussions and good faith, you know they are. They're

1009
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: leaning on their own biases in here, and they're trying to,

1010
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: you know, frame it like they're being objective, which is bullshit.

1011
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 3: And I want to say this from a personal perspective.

1012
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 3: Never in my black ass life would I ever defend

1013
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:26,560
Speaker 3: any white person accused.

1014
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: Of this period. Motherfucking period. Never. I can.

1015
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: I know fandom blinds us, I get that, But buddy,

1016
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 3: we got to chow the line somewhere right, like, like,

1017
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 3: I don't I'm not necessarily want to go down the

1018
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 3: course of Okay, did JJ say or did JJ not?

1019
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 3: But I'm just this, I'm not these I don't defend celebrities, period.

1020
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: Bro.

1021
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 3: I'm I'm not these motherfucker's legal team. I'm not these

1022
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 3: motherfuckers pr And I'm but this allegation, this allegation, I

1023
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,279
Speaker 3: guess a white person I guess some black woman and you,

1024
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 3: as a black person, are defending this blindly like crazy.

1025
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: I cannot see it. Leave it up to JJ to

1026
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 3: get out of this, you know, you know, leave it

1027
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 3: up to him. He's he's the one who these allegations are. Again,

1028
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 3: so so, like I said, I'm not surprised at the allegations.

1029
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:11,919
Speaker 1: I'm not at all.

1030
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 3: And and and I want to be clear again that

1031
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,000
Speaker 3: me not being surprised as me saying that, yeah, I

1032
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,279
Speaker 3: knew JJ had it in. I'm not saying that. I'm

1033
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 3: saying that this is so commonplace. Every damn Like I said,

1034
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: damn near every black person has an experience of of

1035
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 3: of getting hit with that word by wife. And like

1036
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 3: I said, I just do the It didn't surprise me,

1037
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,360
Speaker 3: but I was still disappointed all the same by the

1038
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 3: same bullshit reaction that we see to this, that we

1039
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 3: see to so many other incidents.

1040
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 2: I feel the exact same about that. Yeah, the reaction

1041
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: was nasty. I went through the minches, I scrolled like

1042
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 2: three times and got the fuck out. I'm like, yeah,

1043
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: I'm cool on that. Don't need to see that ship.

1044
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 2: And I did go through her page to see if

1045
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 2: she was retweeting others she was tweeting on the stealer

1046
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 2: out of some context, Heytory laughing pop out?

1047
00:45:57,120 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 5: Good for her?

1048
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: For sure, she saw that ship. Good for her. You

1049
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: know what I'm how I feel like, like I said

1050
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,160
Speaker 1: I was, I'm never surprised when I see it. I

1051
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 1: as a do do I believe her? Yes? One thousand percent.

1052
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,320
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Do I know if it happened?

1053
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:13,400
Speaker 4: No?

1054
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: But do I believe her? Yes? Bro, I believe. I

1055
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: definitely believe it that it happened.

1056
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:24,080
Speaker 2: I when I want to see how he reacts to

1057
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 2: this ship too, because I think that will decide, Like

1058
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 2: if it's like this, fuck this nigga completely, I don't

1059
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 2: want to hear some shit I've never heard.

1060
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 1: I mean, to be honest, it probably is.

1061
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just gonna be hard for me to

1062
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:40,799
Speaker 2: if based upon the context, it seemed like called her

1063
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: a nigga. If you call her a nigga in a particular,

1064
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 2: it seemed like it was you know, he's a six

1065
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,799
Speaker 2: four white man calling a black woman nigga comes comes

1066
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 2: across a particular way to me, you know what I mean,

1067
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:54,680
Speaker 2: And that's that's unforgivable. You know what I mean, person

1068
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 2: but I want to see how you respond to this ship,

1069
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 2: just because I hope he doesn't give that stale lass.

1070
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,359
Speaker 1: I've never said that word before in my life. That's

1071
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: a lie you're first rowing over.

1072
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 2: I believe, I believe, but also also personally, I believe

1073
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: anybody that says that, that's a lie.

1074
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1075
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 10: I think I think you know what I'm saying, and

1076
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 10: you ain't got to corroborate that, Mike.

1077
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: You know you know you ain't gotta corroborate that. You

1078
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.

1079
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,880
Speaker 2: I think I think I don't really trip off motherfuckers

1080
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 2: saying it. Motherfuckers was young, they was trying to say

1081
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 2: that shit. How did you react when you realize that

1082
00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,680
Speaker 2: word wasn't for you? You know what I'm saying. Were

1083
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: you like, oh shit, I see I'm tripping you know

1084
00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: what I mean?

1085
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 1: Like, motherfucker?

1086
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 2: You know. My sister said she she had you know,

1087
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: white friends that was rapping it during songs and shit

1088
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 2: like that, you know what I'm saying, And she was like, Yo,

1089
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 2: don't do that shit, and they would respond like Yo,

1090
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 2: my bad. You feel me like I feel like you

1091
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: grow a particular way, go a particular area.

1092
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,239
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

1093
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: It might be cool in certain arrors, it might not,

1094
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. But when you have a

1095
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: motherfucker say yo, chill out. You know what I'm saying,

1096
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,320
Speaker 2: I don't fuck with that shit? How do you respond

1097
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: to that?

1098
00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: You know? That's why I really trip off.

1099
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,320
Speaker 2: But but with in this situation, so just saying it

1100
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 2: is not a big as big of a deal as it,

1101
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: you know, to me, is more like, how did you

1102
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: respond when motherfuckers told.

1103
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,600
Speaker 1: You this ain't for you? You feel me? Did somebody

1104
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,319
Speaker 1: have to beat your ass get you to stop saying

1105
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: the shit? You feel me?

1106
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 2: But I think like directing it at a black woman,

1107
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 2: I just it's gonna be hard for me to come

1108
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:16,880
Speaker 2: back from that.

1109
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 6: Bro.

1110
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, It's gonna be hard for

1111
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: me to come back from that. I just don't see it.

1112
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 2: I believe her a thousand percent, and in my shock, no,

1113
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: is it disappointing?

1114
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:25,040
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1115
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I was. I was, you know,

1116
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:31,040
Speaker 1: we talked about this, you know what I mean. It

1117
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: was a it was it was a tow turn.

1118
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 2: He had pulled off coming from Duke being one of

1119
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:39,160
Speaker 2: the most hated basketball players on the planet and seeming

1120
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 2: like in certain situations that involved you know, you know,

1121
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,400
Speaker 2: some maybe difficult things to talk about, particularly from a

1122
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,480
Speaker 2: white man, he said the right things, you know what

1123
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: I mean that where I was like, Okay, he might

1124
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:52,879
Speaker 2: get it, you know, he grew up around a few,

1125
00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: but it's just it's just nasty work. We'll see what happens,

1126
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 2: like I said. But like like you said, Tyler, I'm

1127
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 2: not here to defend J. J. Redickin anyway. You know,

1128
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna let JJ talking. We'll see what happens.

1129
00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 5: I just.

1130
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about it. Like I've known.

1131
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 2: Most niggas I know have been you know, called that

1132
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 2: ship at some point by a white person. And then

1133
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: you know, I just I, like you said, from Virginia,

1134
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: that don't surprise me, my boy, not at all. I

1135
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 2: grew up in the South, you know what I mean,

1136
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 2: from Saint Louis.

1137
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 1: I know what time it is.

1138
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 3: Jackson dropped in the chat teams. They're reporting they reached

1139
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,799
Speaker 3: out to JJ's camp and they said, no, it never happened.

1140
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:33,319
Speaker 3: I mean, of course that's the rapper. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1141
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: like you want to if there's no video evidence of this,

1142
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: why would you attach that to your name?

1143
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: You know, right?

1144
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 2: But yeah, and if it's a lot if she if

1145
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 2: she come out and say she was whatever, I'm fine

1146
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 2: with being wrong. I'm not fine with hearing a black

1147
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,399
Speaker 2: woman got called a nigga and taking a white man's side,

1148
00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: even if she will, you.

1149
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: Know what I mean, I've not fine with that. Yeah,

1150
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: that's what it is.

1151
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,000
Speaker 3: If that white man dig his way out out of that,

1152
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: I ain't got ship to do with me. But you know,

1153
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,080
Speaker 3: one of the things that I hated the most that

1154
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,200
Speaker 3: I kept seeing is why wait till now? Why wait

1155
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 3: till now?

1156
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:06,239
Speaker 5: Bro?

1157
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 10: Like like, but not for anybody decide why she waited

1158
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 10: till whenever?

1159
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 3: Bro Let what I'm saying, Yeah, let's let let's move

1160
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: on ansumption that this really happened. Why do you owe

1161
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 3: someone who has wronged you in a way that has

1162
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 3: scarred you forever any type of convenience?

1163
00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,239
Speaker 1: Why do you owe them that? Why do you owe them?

1164
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 5: Oh?

1165
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:24,800
Speaker 3: No, this is a great moment for you. Let me

1166
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 3: let me be quiet. You don't owe them shit. If

1167
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 3: someone has wronged you, you can speak on that shit whenever.

1168
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 3: The greatest moment in their life, a random ass fucking Tuesday,

1169
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 3: bro like that that whole why you wait till now? Shit,

1170
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 3: that's bullshit. That's the flection. That is not a question

1171
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 3: asked from a place of a good faith. Like I said,

1172
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 3: it's just a bunch of bad faith arguers here. Bro,

1173
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 3: the's people who are just trying to you know, diminish

1174
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:43,480
Speaker 3: the shit in silence her.

1175
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 2: And also the thing is too bro like as she

1176
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: from confident, you know what I mean, like probably grew

1177
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 2: up Lakers fan.

1178
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 1: You feel me like this probably feels a particular way

1179
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: to her. We talked about how people care about the Lakers.

1180
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: We just spoke to that.

1181
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 10: You feel me so like she probably like fucked this

1182
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 10: nigga on you know, in our in her head, but

1183
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 10: like now.

1184
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,880
Speaker 2: He's a coach of the Lakers, and somebody either went

1185
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: to do you know what I'm saying, She went to

1186
00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 2: do experience this nigga, you know what I mean?

1187
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: Like, I just, bro, I just I could, I could.

1188
00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:17,000
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me why she would do that.

1189
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 2: And I just feel like like if somebody's been wrong

1190
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 2: and I don't know how that experience, how difficult experience

1191
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: was for it might have been hard to talk about.

1192
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 2: Maybe she didn't feel like people would hear her out,

1193
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:27,919
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Not she's like, I don't

1194
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 2: give a fun I'm gonna say what I say. You

1195
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 2: know that, you know she felt strongly enough about what's

1196
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,880
Speaker 2: going on currently, So I'm not I just can't. I

1197
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 2: can't imagine hearing that being worried about that. Why now,

1198
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: shut the fuck up, man, You know it's not your

1199
00:51:40,120 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: decision to make. Why when when she would discuss about

1200
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 2: something that was difficult for her to talk about or

1201
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 2: go through?

1202
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:50,960
Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, Well, on that note, it is

1203
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 5: I think we're at the end of the show. We

1204
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 5: obviously are.

1205
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 4: I'm sure gonna be getting more information about this and

1206
00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 4: have more to talk about coming days.

1207
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 5: We are recording later in the week Friday morning.

1208
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 6: Is that?

1209
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 5: Was that gonna be a live Jackson? We will be

1210
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 5: live on Friday morning at what time? Eight thirty a

1211
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,359
Speaker 5: West coast, thirty am East coast.

1212
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: And I wasn't insinuating. I heard Mike say, nigga, man,

1213
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:25,640
Speaker 1: I just want to say that, dog, I heard the man.

1214
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm just saying never never felt never, But anyway, yeah, anyway.

1215
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 5: All right, I appreciate it. I appreciate you guys. I

1216
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 5: appreciate you being voices that just sort of cut through.

1217
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 4: A lot of the motion that you see on social

1218
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 4: media at just straight to the target of the truths.

1219
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 5: I appreciate you you both for that. And then you

1220
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:50,399
Speaker 5: have a podcast where you can fucking do that. That's great.

1221
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:53,720
Speaker 5: That's how it's supposed to be. That was Jenkus and Jones.

1222
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 4: We'll be back on Friday morning with a live eight

1223
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 4: thirty am West Coast eleven thirty am East Coast YouTube

1224
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 4: dot Com slash at Jason Jones uh and we will

1225
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 4: see y'all.

1226
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: Then, bye bye bye, m yem hm.

1227
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Speaker 3: The volume

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Speaker 4: M hm