Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome everybody to the Tuesday edition of The Clay Travis
Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton Show. Clay is having a great time
Speaker 2: on vacation. He was in the Bahamas. He's working on
Speaker 2: his tan. He wears sandals year round, so nothing new there,
Speaker 2: but he's having a good time. He'll be back with
Speaker 2: us on Friday. Just meet today, Tomorrow and Thursday. You
Speaker 2: are riding with the Buckster and we have much to
Speaker 2: discuss here. Our friend Ryan Graduski will also be with
Speaker 2: us of the Clay Endbuck podcast Network, talking to him
Speaker 2: about the latest data from CNN. It just keeps getting
Speaker 2: worse for the Libs and the Democrats. The numbers increasingly
Speaker 2: showing that wherever it is that you pull on any
Speaker 2: important issue in the country, right now, Trump is much stronger,
Speaker 2: is doing much better than the Democrats anticipated, hoped for
Speaker 2: and have tried very hard to from being the overall perception.
Speaker 2: So we'll get into some of that more on the
Speaker 2: immigration and border issue. Tom Homan just the guy's just
Speaker 2: an all star, you know. It's it's so nice to
Speaker 2: see and this is true in a number of the
Speaker 2: senior Trump administration roles. It's just so nice to have
Speaker 2: people who know exactly what they're doing and are totally
Speaker 2: in line with the Trump agenda, and they're making moves
Speaker 2: every day to that end. So I just think that
Speaker 2: it is critical. And on the border, there may be nothing,
Speaker 2: maybe no issue that is honestly more important. I think
Speaker 2: the border and the economy are side by side. You know,
Speaker 2: thanks to Trump, we're not getting involved in any crazy
Speaker 2: wars anytime soon. So we shall dive into that. But
Speaker 2: I did want to take a few moments here to
Speaker 2: update the story we talked about yesterday about this fire
Speaker 2: bombing terror attack in Colorado and what this tells us
Speaker 2: about not only the kinds of ideological hatred that are
Speaker 2: spreading in this country under this I think often this
Speaker 2: shield of oh, I'm not anti Jewish or an anti Semitic,
Speaker 2: I'm just anti Zionist. Well, I don't know a lot
Speaker 2: of Zionists who aren't Jews. I think the i'm just
Speaker 2: anti Zionist or even anti Israel it's doing a lot
Speaker 2: of work in that sentence. What is it that they
Speaker 2: really object to? And, as I have pointed out to
Speaker 2: you and I will continue to do so. There are
Speaker 2: many places around the world where there is extreme violence,
Speaker 2: there is very real oppression, and there are plenty of
Speaker 2: ways you could argue we should put more pressure on
Speaker 2: or we should do something now, whether you believe we
Speaker 2: should or not, as a separate issue, but we could
Speaker 2: theoretically do more. And yet because it cannot be blamed
Speaker 2: on the Jewish people, you know the situation in South Sudan,
Speaker 2: because it is very tough to make that about Zionism.
Speaker 2: These individuals who are so upset on college campuses and
Speaker 2: just on streets in cities across America, they have nothing
Speaker 2: to say about it. It doesn't even register with them.
Speaker 2: The realities of Middle East totalitarianism as it pertains to
Speaker 2: places like Iran, for example, that is not a problem
Speaker 2: that gets protests in the streets. People who think they
Speaker 2: care about women's rights on the left have no issue
Speaker 2: with Iran, at least no issue they're willing to speak
Speaker 2: about publicly. But endless issues with Israel and endless issues
Speaker 2: with Gaza. And I think we all see what that's
Speaker 2: all about. You'll also notice this, and as I've told
Speaker 2: you before, this was the first issue of foreign policy
Speaker 2: that I ever spent real time on it was going
Speaker 2: on now over twenty years. When I first I worked
Speaker 2: at the Washington Institute for Neery's Policy. I was an
Speaker 2: intern for Clinton's Ambassador Dennis Ross, who was Ambassador Ross
Speaker 2: was the negotiator on the Arab Israeli peace accords under
Speaker 2: the Clinton administration. Camp David didn't work, but they tried.
Speaker 2: I also worked at the Council on Foreign Relations, Council
Speaker 2: on Form Relations. You know, they got the Builderbergs, the Illuminati.
Speaker 2: No Council on Foreign Relations. I did work there as
Speaker 2: an intern, so trust me, I didn't know the secret
Speaker 2: handshakes or the secret tunnels or any of that stuff.
Speaker 2: But I worked there on the US Middle East Project,
Speaker 2: which was also an Arab Israeli peace project initiative. So
Speaker 2: I started, as many do my academic background in Middle
Speaker 2: East studies on this issue of Israel Palestine, and so
Speaker 2: I do have some institutional memory. I do have some recall,
Speaker 2: not just of how it is now, but how it
Speaker 2: has been the last twenty years. And what you see
Speaker 2: is that there are a lot of people who care
Speaker 2: not a bit about foreign policy as a general matter,
Speaker 2: but they care so much about what's going on with Israel,
Speaker 2: and you say, well, why is that? Why is Israel
Speaker 2: the place? And you know we say these things rhetorically.
Speaker 2: I think we know why, and I think that in
Speaker 2: the context of America. First of all, there's a tremendous
Speaker 2: amount of anti Jewish feeling throughout the Muslim world. That
Speaker 2: is just a reality, that is a truth. You can
Speaker 2: even think. To the character Borat, I always thought this
Speaker 2: was fascinating. Remember Ali when Ali G was another one
Speaker 2: of his characters. Sasha Baron Cohen, who is Jewish. Last
Speaker 2: name is Cohen, a common Jewish last name. Sasha Baron
Speaker 2: Cohen playing the Alig character, playing Borat, and Borat became
Speaker 2: this big famous movie. Kazakhstan is a Muslim country, and
Speaker 2: one of the bits that Sasha Baron Cohen would do
Speaker 2: was constantly kind of satirizing the just blatant anti Semitism
Speaker 2: of the supposed Kazakh Borat. Now he got away with
Speaker 2: this because he never got away with that, and you know,
Speaker 2: the Left didn't get angry about it because he never
Speaker 2: mentioned this was a effectively a Muslim character that he
Speaker 2: was playing. But there's a tremendous amount of anti Semitism
Speaker 2: throughout the Muslim world, and no serious person would argue otherwise,
Speaker 2: or no person who knows what they're talking about. Now,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of anti Semitism in Europe, and clearly
Speaker 2: a lot of anti Semitism in America too, but it
Speaker 2: is worse in the Islamic world by far. And ask
Speaker 2: any Jew you know who knows anything about these regions,
Speaker 2: and they'll say, yeah, that is certainly the case. But
Speaker 2: why is it that this goes to the front of
Speaker 2: the line. Why is this so important to the American left?
Speaker 2: Was as I've discussed here, as I've laid forward, and
Speaker 2: I know Clay has adopted this to his own thinking
Speaker 2: as well. This is a white versus brown conflict in
Speaker 2: the minds of the American left. The Israelis are white,
Speaker 2: the Palestinians are brown. Therefore, the moral high ground is
Speaker 2: set and unchangeable in favor of the brown Palestinians. Whatever
Speaker 2: they have to do is justified. They are oppressed. They
Speaker 2: are the ones who are suffering any action, including the
Speaker 2: most heinous and vicious actions humanly possible or thinkable, which
Speaker 2: Hamas and affiliated and assorted terrorist groups on behalf of
Speaker 2: the Palestinians, comprised of Palestinians have engaged in is inherently
Speaker 2: justified because they're so oppressed. I've said this before, if
Speaker 2: October seventh wouldn't turn people against the Palestinian cause such
Speaker 2: as it is, because the cause is not an independent state.
Speaker 2: The cause is the eradication of the Jewish state. That
Speaker 2: is the truth. It is obvious to anyone paying attention
Speaker 2: who is being honest. But if that won't turn you
Speaker 2: against the cause, or if there won't be criticism from
Speaker 2: people after that, there is nothing that will make them
Speaker 2: critical of this. There is nothing that will turn them
Speaker 2: and make them thin that the Palestinians perhaps should look
Speaker 2: inward and take a different approach. And I think that
Speaker 2: couldn't be more clear than it is right now. This
Speaker 2: is why I remind everyone the so called Glorious Martyrs
Speaker 2: and the resistance of groups like Hamas stretching back into
Speaker 2: the Second Intifada in the early two thousands was just
Speaker 2: a series of suicide bombings meant to bring Israeli life
Speaker 2: to a halt, to a standstill, to destroy the daily
Speaker 2: lives of Israelis, and to murder as many Israelis women
Speaker 2: and children as possible. A moral person, a moral person
Speaker 2: from any country, from any culture, of any religion or
Speaker 2: skin color. A moral person does not go into a
Speaker 2: crowded restaurant with a suicide vesta on packed with ball bearings,
Speaker 2: killing himself and everyone else there because they think that
Speaker 2: somehow this is going to achieve what exactly revenge a state.
Speaker 2: No one's even what they want, because what they want
Speaker 2: is the manifestation of and the right to act on
Speaker 2: deep hatred. And that brings me to Colorado and this
Speaker 2: individual Egyptian national came to this country claiming he wants asylum.
Speaker 2: Think about that for a moment. You know, this reminds
Speaker 2: me of there's something particularly heinous, and you see this
Speaker 2: playing out in a number of different very very you know,
Speaker 2: well known and well made movies about World War Two.
Speaker 2: But it was well known and some of those who
Speaker 2: had you know, veteran, particularly a marine and army dads
Speaker 2: fighting in World War Two, it was well known that
Speaker 2: the Japanese, as one of their tactics, would claim that
Speaker 2: they were wounded and surrender and then they would actually
Speaker 2: have a grenade, and so they would say, please, please
Speaker 2: don't kill me. I'm wounded, I can't fight, and then
Speaker 2: Urgis would go over because our people were always trying
Speaker 2: to be humane in the most inhumane circumstances, and they
Speaker 2: would go and then they would be blown up by
Speaker 2: this person. And this was common. You see this in
Speaker 2: a hole, you see this in thin red line, you
Speaker 2: see this in letters from me, Regima. Somebody who claims
Speaker 2: asylum in your country is on that same moral plane.
Speaker 2: They're saying, please, I need to skip the line. I'm
Speaker 2: in a desperate situation. I have to get away from
Speaker 2: my home country. My home country is so awful that
Speaker 2: if you send me back, I could be tortured and killed. Please,
Speaker 2: out of the kindness of your heart, take me in.
Speaker 2: This individual, this terrorist in Colorado, said that he wanted asylum,
Speaker 2: used our process, use the goodness of the American people,
Speaker 2: used our mercy against us and against our Jewish brothers
Speaker 2: and sisters in Colorado who were burned severely in this attack.
Speaker 2: And now we even we have more details, we know
Speaker 2: this was absolutely not just an act of terror, but
Speaker 2: a premeditated and particularly vicious one. It is hard to
Speaker 2: think of something that is more awful than intentionally lighting
Speaker 2: defenseless people on fire, but that is what Mohammad Suliman,
Speaker 2: who disguised himself as a gardener in an orange vest
Speaker 2: so he could get as close as possible to these
Speaker 2: individuals in Boulder, Colorado. That is what Mohammed Sliman wanted
Speaker 2: to do. And he believed his actions just not just then,
Speaker 2: but after the fact. He believes, because he has set
Speaker 2: it to law enforcement, that this was vengeance for quote
Speaker 2: his people, his people, his Egyptian You might say to yourself,
Speaker 2: what is he talking about? Oh, okay, you mean Muslim, brown,
Speaker 2: non Jews. That's essentially what he means by his people,
Speaker 2: or rather the people that he associates with who hate
Speaker 2: the Jewish people. If you do not understand these hatreds
Speaker 2: and see how they are, for one side, immovable and
Speaker 2: unfortunately central to the society. The hatred of Jews is
Speaker 2: central to the people of Gaza. Look at their textbooks,
Speaker 2: their whole initiatives. They have been going on for years
Speaker 2: to show people what is taught about Jews in the
Speaker 2: schools such as there are schools in places like Gaza
Speaker 2: and in the West Bank. And it couldn't be more
Speaker 2: clear which side of this issue all of us should
Speaker 2: be on. And yet you have not just radical fringe
Speaker 2: elements of the left. You have the Democrat Party itself
Speaker 2: sympathetic to and making room for this virulent anti Semitism.
Speaker 2: This is now replaced the kneeling for George Floyd. You
Speaker 2: have to understand, this is filling that hole in the
Speaker 2: soul of all of these leftists in America who think
Speaker 2: that we must always be having some sort of racial reckoning.
Speaker 2: I know it isn't reasonable or even logical, but they
Speaker 2: view the Israelis fighting Hamas as a racial reckoning of
Speaker 2: white oppression against the non white adversary here, and so
Speaker 2: this is why they attach themselves to this, they feel.
Speaker 2: So they don't know anything about the Balfour Declaration, about
Speaker 2: the Nakbab, about nineteen forty eight, about UN Resolution two
Speaker 2: four to two, or UN Resolution three three eight, or
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy three war, or the I mean, go
Speaker 2: down the list. That they don't know anything about the
Speaker 2: removal of Israelis of settlers from Gaza and the destruction
Speaker 2: of greenhouses and the destruction of infrastructure and all that
Speaker 2: they don't know. They don't All they know is they
Speaker 2: have been told the Jews, the white people here who
Speaker 2: are Jews, are the bad people and they are obsessed
Speaker 2: with the virtue signaling of marching around campus proclaiming to
Speaker 2: care so much about the oppressed and the dispossessed, and
Speaker 2: that ideology, unfortunately also inspires and creates far too much
Speaker 2: room for maniacs like this Molotov cocktail throwing murderer or
Speaker 2: attempted murderer who thought that lighting defenseless people on fire
Speaker 2: was people he had never met before, who had never
Speaker 2: done anything to him. And here we are now seeing,
Speaker 2: once again, just like we saw in October seventh, there
Speaker 2: is a side of evil and the side of decency here,
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Speaker 2: in Colorado and Boulder. The guy was an illegal, a
Speaker 2: visa overstay illegal, and I can tell you that in
Speaker 2: the pre Trump era, I'm pretty familiar with these stats,
Speaker 2: they would estimate something like a half a million visa
Speaker 2: overstays a year. That's not even a number that you
Speaker 2: think of when you're generally considering illegals in the country,
Speaker 2: right you think of the people that come across the border,
Speaker 2: which was about ten million under Biden. We'll call it
Speaker 2: ten million. I think that's right, eight million officially plus
Speaker 2: you aut up all the Godaways, nine or ten million
Speaker 2: is where it is, and we have more people in
Speaker 2: more ways that they are gaming our immigration system and
Speaker 2: staying in this country illegally. This is a massive problem.
Speaker 2: Last I we're talking about the anti Semitism and the
Speaker 2: components of the ideology of anti Semitism against well against
Speaker 2: the Jewish, against the Jewish people, and why so many Americans,
Speaker 2: I mean, think about this for a second. A lot
Speaker 2: of these college kids who take this very anti Israel
Speaker 2: and very pro pro Palestine or pro Palestinian point of view,
Speaker 2: and I know there's something deeply unfair about the same
Speaker 2: way I said this with Iran, I extend the same
Speaker 2: thing to there are people in Gaza who you know,
Speaker 2: there are children there, there are people who have no choice,
Speaker 2: There are people who have no political agency and they're
Speaker 2: stuck there and it's unfair. But there are also a
Speaker 2: lot of adults who are there and aren't doing anything.
Speaker 2: And then there are a lot of adults who are
Speaker 2: doing terrible things right, or rather there are adults who
Speaker 2: could do more to try to bring about something else somehow.
Speaker 2: There's there's always somebody who will fire a rocket at
Speaker 2: the Israelis in Gaza. There's not somebody who will, let's
Speaker 2: just say, try to change up the Hamas leaderships situation,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Somehow there are plenty of
Speaker 2: people willing to be you know, brave martyrs so to
Speaker 2: speak against the Israelis, but they won't do anything to
Speaker 2: stop the mad men in their midst who are running
Speaker 2: the country. So but the same thing's true in Iran. Right,
Speaker 2: if we had to do strikes in Iran for some reason,
Speaker 2: it wouldn't be the fault of every Iranian. But this
Speaker 2: war is hell, and war is unfair, and this is reality,
Speaker 2: and we have to operate within that reality, and you know,
Speaker 2: you do the best that you can. We didn't want
Speaker 2: to be bombing villages in Afghanistan until nine eleven. Quite honestly,
Speaker 2: we didn't really care very much about Afghanistan. But then
Speaker 2: they made us care. Well, the Israelis have been made
Speaker 2: to care more than ever about their own safety and
Speaker 2: security after October seventh. So there's the immigration part of this. So,
Speaker 2: so that's the ideological Midias foreign policy part of it. Now,
Speaker 2: let's look at the the truth of what's going on
Speaker 2: here with our border. It's wide open and I'm sorry
Speaker 2: has been wide open. Of course it's not wide open anymore.
Speaker 2: Trump has brought the numbers down ninety nine percent, something
Speaker 2: something unfathomable. I thought Trump would do a good job.
Speaker 2: And if I'm just being honest with you, I thought
Speaker 2: we would see a ninety percent something like that. A
Speaker 2: ninety percent. I didn't think it would be almost zero.
Speaker 2: And the numbers now, I think they can count in
Speaker 2: the hundreds on a monthly basis. How many are entering
Speaker 2: the country legal. I mean it is. And this freeze up.
Speaker 2: This is what I have said all along. This is
Speaker 2: so important. This freeze up the resources at border patrol.
Speaker 2: And I've spent time with our border patrol guys. You
Speaker 2: got to you know, and the more people know about
Speaker 2: border patrol, I think the more respect for those men
Speaker 2: and women they have. They do a tough job. Something
Speaker 2: like a third of border patrol or are United States
Speaker 2: military veterans, maybe twenty five percent are our Latino as well,
Speaker 2: Latino Americans. So this notion that you know that that
Speaker 2: border patrol is in some way a racist enterprise, or
Speaker 2: that these aren't people that are you know, they're demonized
Speaker 2: by the left as though they're doing something terrible you know,
Speaker 2: they're rounding people up and putting them into these camps.
Speaker 2: They're protecting us. And as we see with with this
Speaker 2: this terrorist, I know that he's a visa overstay, but okay,
Speaker 2: Immigrations and Customs Enforcement is supposed to and should have
Speaker 2: gotten this guy out of the country. Now I know
Speaker 2: he's he has claimed asylum. I think that we just
Speaker 2: need to have a shutdown of the asylum process in
Speaker 2: this country for a while until we figure things out.
Speaker 2: That's really where we are, and all pending asylum claims
Speaker 2: just need to be you know, maybe maybe they come
Speaker 2: up with some very high threshold for it, but there
Speaker 2: are and see and I know that's unfair too, right,
Speaker 2: because there are people who need a place to go,
Speaker 2: but we're not the only place they can go. The
Speaker 2: more you dig into this, almost all of the asylum
Speaker 2: claims that are making their way through our courts are
Speaker 2: invalidated by one thing alone, and that is that these
Speaker 2: people came via Mexico. They're not supposed to pick which
Speaker 2: country they want to get to for asylum. It's which
Speaker 2: country they get to first where they can be considered safe.
Speaker 2: So if we were serious and Trump administration will be
Speaker 2: but if the Biden administration had any intention of enforcing
Speaker 2: actual asylum, all right, think about it. If you're fleeing
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know, you're fleeing oppression in Indonesia
Speaker 2: as an ethnic minority, and you make your way to Mexico,
Speaker 2: you're supposed to say, hey, Mexico, I need asylum. You're
Speaker 2: not supposed to go, Hey, you know what would be
Speaker 2: really cool if I can make it to America because
Speaker 2: they're rich and they have a big fat welfare state.
Speaker 2: That's not how it is supposed to go. And so
Speaker 2: all of these people that are saying they claim asylum,
Speaker 2: they right on its face, we should be able to
Speaker 2: just say to them, okay, well did you show me
Speaker 2: your sylum paperwork for Mexico. Wait you didn't. You didn't
Speaker 2: try to get asylum Mexico. Why oh, because you want
Speaker 2: to just jump the line to go to America and
Speaker 2: you're And then that's not even looking at whether they
Speaker 2: have a legitimate claim of asylum, which they don't, because
Speaker 2: there's not one hundred and If one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: countries around the world all have asylum seekers all coming
Speaker 2: to America, it just means that every country, you know
Speaker 2: pretty much. You know, we don't have a lot of
Speaker 2: asylum seekers from Liechtenstein or or you know, Denmark, but
Speaker 2: we've got a lot of asylum secrets from everywhere else.
Speaker 2: Tom Homan is pointing out that this has created the
Speaker 2: Biden administration problem is something that is going to plague
Speaker 2: this country for years to come, no matter how fast,
Speaker 2: no matter how efficient the Trump administration border policies are
Speaker 2: and the and the enforcement mechanisms are, it is just
Speaker 2: mathematically impossible to fully handle and turn around. Just what
Speaker 2: Biden did. Think about that if I said to you,
Speaker 2: the Trump administration's mandate is to return everybody who came
Speaker 2: under Biden in those four years illegally, never mind everyone
Speaker 2: who came before Biden illegally. That's what we'll just we'll
Speaker 2: put that to the side for a second. That number
Speaker 2: is probably too much, just logistically too much. I'd like
Speaker 2: to think that I'm wrong, but I don't think I'm wrong.
Speaker 2: Because if we ramped it up and you got to
Speaker 2: a million deportations a year under Trump, which would be
Speaker 2: a lot. Let's say you get to a million and
Speaker 2: these are real deportation people are going to say, but
Speaker 2: Buck what about in the in the two thousands, or
Speaker 2: what about in the nineties, and we were deporting. Now,
Speaker 2: a lot of that was people who were turned away.
Speaker 2: The immigration. Illegal immigration, particularly into California in the nineties,
Speaker 2: was single adult males crossing the border working and then
Speaker 2: going off and going back and then coming back again seasonally.
Speaker 2: So yeah, they were breaking our laws, but there were
Speaker 2: multiple crossings and they were single adult males. Now it's
Speaker 2: turned into a lot of family units, women, women showing
Speaker 2: up with children and they plan to stay forever, and
Speaker 2: they're from all over the world. What the Obama administration
Speaker 2: did to make the numbers seem much more robust than
Speaker 2: they were was, oh, border patrols stopped you and just
Speaker 2: sent you back to Mexico. That's a deportation, right. That
Speaker 2: was how we got to the deporter in chief. They
Speaker 2: changed the way that they So if we got to
Speaker 2: a million real deportations a year, meaning people picked up
Speaker 2: from the interior, put on a plane and sent to
Speaker 2: their country of origin, that would be pretty impressive. Okay,
Speaker 2: well that's four million. He got six million to go.
Speaker 2: Here's Tom Homan. This is cut ten. Just laying this
Speaker 2: out to everybody. Understands the scale of this problem. Play it.
Speaker 3: We are going to be dealing with this for the
Speaker 3: next ten years because of the chaos they created in
Speaker 3: four years. We're out there kicking butt, We're resting a
Speaker 3: lot of criminal aliens. We're rather looking for the bad guy.
Speaker 3: And when we're out there doing that, we got protesters
Speaker 3: assaulting ICE officers. You got members of Congress all of
Speaker 3: the cut. If you're going to ICE facilities raising hell
Speaker 3: saying this is our oversight responsibility? Where were there oversight
Speaker 3: responsibility when ten point five million I came across the border.
Speaker 3: Where's the oversight responsibility? I'm releasing over eight million, it'll
Speaker 3: go to this country. Where's the oversight responsibility? Then this
Speaker 3: is attack on ICE, this attack on the Trump administration.
Speaker 3: We're trying to fix the damage done by Biden.
Speaker 2: An attack on the Trump administration and fixing the damage
Speaker 2: done by Biden. So true, And I just think that
Speaker 2: we all need to understand it was a choice made
Speaker 2: by Biden and his team. It was not a failure
Speaker 2: of policy. It was the enacting of policy. They wanted
Speaker 2: the illegals in this country. They wanted millions and millions
Speaker 2: of illegals to pilot the country to overwhelm the system.
Speaker 2: Rules for radical Slolenski, overwhelm the system, and then once
Speaker 2: you break it through overwhelming it, you can read make it.
Speaker 2: That's what they were trying to do here, and they
Speaker 2: got very far in that process, and we are playing
Speaker 2: catch up and then some even this administration as dialed
Speaker 2: in as they are. But now we look at the
Speaker 2: what about the fact that we were wide open for
Speaker 2: terrorist infiltration. We just had an illegal alien terror attack
Speaker 2: lighting Jewish people on fire in Colorado. We just had one.
Speaker 2: We're going to have more. There will be more. If
Speaker 2: you were a foreign terrorist organization and you just had
Speaker 2: access to the internet, you would have seen what was
Speaker 2: going on under Biden and known it is open season
Speaker 2: for infiltration of the United States. And this is why
Speaker 2: the got away issue is so problematic. We're so concerning
Speaker 2: for us because remember under Biden, and I saw this
Speaker 2: with my own eyes at the border. Many times they
Speaker 2: were surrendering at the border. It's not oh oh, I
Speaker 2: think the coast is clear. I'm gonna make a run
Speaker 2: for it, and then border patrol is you know, coming
Speaker 2: after you in the pickup truck and they're running after
Speaker 2: you on foot, you know, no, no, no, that's only
Speaker 2: for the godaways, which were a small percentage overall of
Speaker 2: those who cross. Most people, it was they would show up,
Speaker 2: they would find a hole in the fence or a
Speaker 2: gap in the fence, or they'd show up at a
Speaker 2: port of entry or whatever. They'd say, here I am,
Speaker 2: I'm claiming asylum. Oh okay, Now we have to put
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Speaker 2: You make a run for it if you happen to
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Speaker 3: Why did two million illegal aliens paid more to get away?
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Speaker 3: They didn't want to be vetted, they didn't want to
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Speaker 3: I've been doing this for forty years. It should have
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Speaker 2: He's right, and they're tracking them down as fast as
Speaker 2: they can. But we had it was open season on
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Speaker 2: of Biden's time in office. It's intentional. They did this
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Speaker 2: have seen that the Democrats are a malignant force. They
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Speaker 2: breaks down a lot of the data, the numbers, mister Gurdusky.
Speaker 2: Great to have you with me, sir.
Speaker 4: Thanks for having me on. I'm so excited.
Speaker 2: I wanted to, uh, look, there's I like to just
Speaker 2: get this out of the way first first and foremost.
Speaker 2: You know there are some there's some bootleg Gurduskies out there,
Speaker 2: including CNN's Harry Entid right. I mean it's like he's
Speaker 2: a he's a fine guy. I think it is okay
Speaker 2: data analysis, but he's a poor man's Gurdusky. But he
Speaker 2: did say sim yes, sir.
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, yes, that's one Prue.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, he's a poor man's Gurdusky. We have we
Speaker 2: have the we have the original deal, right, We've got
Speaker 2: the real deal here with Ryan Gerdusky. But he's been
Speaker 2: saying some stuff about the numbers as it pertains to Trump.
Speaker 2: Let's start this one with with with CUTT twenty one.
Speaker 2: Here's CNN's data guy, and then Ryan, I want you
Speaker 2: to explain what's going on here and what you see
Speaker 2: play the party.
Speaker 5: That is closest to your economic views and no, remember
Speaker 5: of twenty twenty three, it was the Republicans by eleven points.
Speaker 5: Now it's still within that range, still within that margin
Speaker 5: of our plus eight point advantage for the Republican Party.
Speaker 4: How is that possible?
Speaker 2: Democrats?
Speaker 5: How is that possible after all the recession, because after
Speaker 5: the stock market's been doing all of this, after all
Speaker 5: the terrorists that Americans are against, and Republicans still hold
Speaker 5: an eight point lead on the economy?
Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? I don't think it's that surprising.
Speaker 2: I just think it's interesting that Democrats have to reckon
Speaker 2: with this. What do you make of the numbers on
Speaker 2: Trump support with the economy right now being just as
Speaker 2: strong as when he got elected?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, Harry, lets it out, the recession fears,
Speaker 4: the fear.
Speaker 2: Did we just lose Ryan? He just dropped. He was
Speaker 2: about to get to all the nuggets of wisdom, and
Speaker 2: I don't know where he was going with that. We'll
Speaker 2: take him back here in a second. I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe my comments about Harry Enton somehow have backfired and
Speaker 2: we are now dealing with the ghost and the machine
Speaker 2: here that has kicked Ryan off the here. Let me know,
Speaker 2: we get him back. Guys got to teet him up
Speaker 2: so well for this he's about to tell us all
Speaker 2: about the data. I'm not surprised that Trump is in
Speaker 2: a better spot or in as strong a spot, because
Speaker 2: he was in a great spot at the time. What
Speaker 2: is the Democrat message on the economy other than professing
Speaker 2: or prophecying that there will be Is it prophesizing or prophecying?
Speaker 2: Help me out with that one team. You know, if
Speaker 2: I get this wrong, pronunciation police or maybe they're the
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Speaker 2: this show, Man pronunciation police is rough. They're waiting for
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Speaker 2: Have speed traps like every two miles. You guys got
Speaker 2: those mirrored aviators on. I know, I know your type,
Speaker 2: I know what's going You pull us over the second
Speaker 2: you can. But I think that the Democrats claims for
Speaker 2: how things are going to go poorly and then not
Speaker 2: go and then they don't go poorly are the primary
Speaker 2: reason that the numbers are where they are because they
Speaker 2: don't even really have a counter message here. They don't
Speaker 2: even have something to say to point out. Okay, Ryan,
Speaker 2: you are about to share your brilliance with us. Hopefully
Speaker 2: you have a cell phone that works. Now, let's hear
Speaker 2: what you've got.
Speaker 4: So, yes, there is what is the What is the
Speaker 4: democrats economic message? I know, hating Trump has been their
Speaker 4: political message, but what is their economic message? What are
Speaker 4: they focused on? Aside from keeping medicare spending and social security?
Speaker 4: I don't ever hear of it. And also, the voters
Speaker 4: are against the against their retaliatory efforts of tariffs. The
Speaker 4: don't want to pay higher prices, that's undersmable, But they
Speaker 4: are for the message of restoring manufacturing. They were for
Speaker 4: the efforts of trying to bring back economic patriotism. So
Speaker 4: they're not against the overall idea of it. They just
Speaker 4: don't want to pay higher prices. But higher prices didn't come.
Speaker 4: So of course Trump's numbers are not that bad. And also,
Speaker 4: and I think this is a very big point of
Speaker 4: why Trump's whole numbers are so high. Right now, no
Speaker 4: one is talking about Trump and the media what are
Speaker 4: they talking about. They're talking about Biden still, they're talking
Speaker 4: about his mental health. They're talking about what Democrats bled about.
Speaker 4: So the Republicans are still getting dividends from the bad
Speaker 4: governance and the lies of the Democratic Party over Biden's administration.
Speaker 4: That does matter, And they don't have an alternative. They
Speaker 4: don't they don't have a leader. They have nothing, I mean,
Speaker 4: AOC running around whether and Gavin Newsom with his podcast,
Speaker 4: and you know what else is there. So I think
Speaker 4: that they have a lot of problems as far as
Speaker 4: just what is their message. I don't know what they'll
Speaker 4: turn it is.
Speaker 2: Now we'll get into because you you sat down with
Speaker 2: or did an interview right with Alex Thompson and Tapper
Speaker 2: or just Alex Thompson.
Speaker 4: Just Alex Thompson.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh okay, I actually that actually I would have
Speaker 2: been more amenable to myself than having to, you know,
Speaker 2: listen to Tapper's nonsense. But we'll get to that in
Speaker 2: a second. First, that is more of of poor Man's
Speaker 2: Gardusky Harry Enton talking about who looks out? I mean,
Speaker 2: because this is if you're a Democrat and you've bought
Speaker 2: into the Democrat messaging for a long time, uh or
Speaker 2: maybe you've been a purveyor of the Democrat messaging. Their
Speaker 2: whole thing is this make believe that they're the ones
Speaker 2: that care about the middle class. Here's the latest on
Speaker 2: the numbers. When it comes to middle class and looking
Speaker 2: out for them. This is cut twenty play it which.
Speaker 5: Is the party of the middle class, has been a
Speaker 5: huge advantage for Democrats. I have rolling from NBC going
Speaker 5: all the way back since nineteen eighty nine when Democrats
Speaker 5: had a twenty three point advantage, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: Seventeen point advantage.
Speaker 5: But by this decade we already started seeing declines. Back
Speaker 5: in twenty twenty two we saw that Democrats led, but
Speaker 5: only by four points, well within the margin of error.
Speaker 5: And now in our latest CNM pull among registered voters.
Speaker 2: Which is the party of the middle class, it is tied.
Speaker 5: This I think speaks to Democratic ills more than anything else.
Speaker 5: They have traditionally been the party of the middle class.
Speaker 6: No more.
Speaker 5: Donald Trump and the Republican Party have taken that mantle
Speaker 5: away and now a key advantage for Democrats historically has
Speaker 5: gone Audios amigos, and now there is no party that
Speaker 5: is the party of the middle class.
Speaker 2: Republicans have completely closed the gap. Ryan, What do you
Speaker 2: make of that, because that's got to be you know,
Speaker 2: given the election they just had the fact that they've
Speaker 2: also got to contend with this in a broader messaging.
Speaker 2: Since rough days for the Democrats.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're having this and they're going through it, and
Speaker 4: they but they're very publicly admitting that they're going through it.
Speaker 4: Right now, they can admit to the fact that they
Speaker 4: lied that Biden's health was so bad they can't find
Speaker 4: a leader, and their only messages I hate Donald Trump
Speaker 4: and maybe that'll get be enough to win them back
Speaker 4: to the House. But over all, that long term vision
Speaker 4: there is none.
Speaker 2: It's it's remarkable that this is the situation they find
Speaker 2: themselves in and that they've had so little introspection. I mean,
Speaker 2: they still have things like Gavin Newsom's California, pretending that
Speaker 2: having a guy beat all the girls in the state
Speaker 2: champion track meet that this is not like this makes
Speaker 2: their party look crazy that they can keep pretending otherwise.
Speaker 2: But to eighty percent of the country, even people that
Speaker 2: vote Democrat, eighty percent of the country look at some
Speaker 2: guy who now wants to be called ab who's beating
Speaker 2: all these girls in a track meet and says there's
Speaker 2: something wrong with these Democrats. And to that end, though,
Speaker 2: also on the Biden stuff and the lot so you
Speaker 2: you talked to Alex Thompson, who has got this book
Speaker 2: out now and you know we've talked about you know, Tapper,
Speaker 2: particularly with it. By the way, I think that it
Speaker 2: should have been Thompson solo. I would have been far
Speaker 2: more open.
Speaker 4: This is what I think. And he didn't say this,
Speaker 4: but this is what I think when you read a
Speaker 4: book and you don't have a big name. When I
Speaker 4: wrote my I wrote my book, I had like no
Speaker 4: social media following, and they said to me, if you
Speaker 4: can get someone with the name, will publish your book.
Speaker 4: That's what they but the publishers told me when I
Speaker 4: wrote my book. I think the same thing probably happened
Speaker 4: Alex Thompson. I think that he was told, if you
Speaker 4: can get a name, will publish your book.
Speaker 2: And I mean he shouldn't. He should have gone with
Speaker 2: Wolf Blitzer or somebody who's considered a little bit more
Speaker 2: of a neutral. Well, nobody would think that Wolf Blitzer
Speaker 2: wrote a word of it. I don't know if they
Speaker 2: think Jake Tapper wrote a word of it either, but
Speaker 2: definitely not Blitzer. You know that guy. He looks about
Speaker 2: as confused as Biden sometimes just being honest.
Speaker 4: But he's been going for forty years on air, so
Speaker 4: I mean he's done his time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's done his time for sure. But okay, so
Speaker 2: you sat down with Thompson, this book Original Sin that's
Speaker 2: out there. What did you gather from it that was interesting?
Speaker 2: Like we already know, yes, they all like you know,
Speaker 2: they missed all this stuff about Biden. What was insightful?
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Speaker 2: in your feed. But Ryan, what did you what did
Speaker 2: you learn from it that was interesting or what'd you
Speaker 2: get into that was worth talking about.
Speaker 4: Well, one, the fact that missus Biden, Jill Biden was
Speaker 4: I did not know that she was a school teacher,
Speaker 4: a professor the entire time she was Second Lady of
Speaker 4: the United States. She taught at a community college. And
Speaker 4: apparently she hated being a politician spouse, which is not
Speaker 4: unoriginal because a lot of people hate being politician spouses.
Speaker 4: But the fact that she went from doing that to
Speaker 4: being one of the most powerful second first Ladies in
Speaker 4: American history and essentially running large portions and being the
Speaker 4: one who said, no, Joe, you can't drop out. Her
Speaker 4: transformation I think is fascinating. I asked them specifically about
Speaker 4: how much it went into why, how much it was
Speaker 4: considered the fact that the Biden family needed Joe, and
Speaker 4: I put the idea up there was both had Bo lived,
Speaker 4: which is always the essential question of the Biden legacy
Speaker 4: in the Biden family, Have Bo lived? Was he supposed
Speaker 4: to be the politician to grant them access so that
Speaker 4: they continue to live with a lot of economic you know,
Speaker 4: flourishment and millions of dollars coming in, because that's how
Speaker 4: that entire family makes money, it's political connections. Did Joe
Speaker 4: have to do this because he needed to bring money in?
Speaker 4: And apparently now there's reporting that the Bidens are basically broke,
Speaker 4: that they that they want Joe out there more because
Speaker 4: they need a way to make money. They can't do it,
Speaker 4: you know, I don't know think other ways. So was
Speaker 4: that the entire premise of why Joe had to run
Speaker 4: From the family's perspective is they needed millions to come
Speaker 4: in every year. They didn't want a Clinton Foundation situation
Speaker 4: where all of a sudden, all the money's just gone
Speaker 4: and dried up and they have to pay for everyone
Speaker 4: because they pay for the grandkids. They pay for the cousins,
Speaker 4: the brothers. Everyone lives off the Biden teeth. So that
Speaker 4: was a big, big part of it. Also with the book,
Speaker 4: the people who even after the debate had come out
Speaker 4: and said no, Biden's our ticket. John Fetterman screamed at
Speaker 4: every Democratic send They had a big meeting with Democratic
Speaker 4: senators and they said who is still with Biden? Every
Speaker 4: one but three said no, and Fetterman got up and
Speaker 4: started screaming and saying, how fing dare you betray our
Speaker 4: great president like this? And he was the only one
Speaker 4: in the room still defending Joe Biden, even with the
Speaker 4: poll numbers bad, even with everything. So that that was fascinating,
Speaker 4: which alliances remained close to Joe long afterwards.
Speaker 2: Now, I mean I have to first of all, Ryan,
Speaker 2: that is really interesting and I hadn't heard that, and
Speaker 2: that's that's something that should should certainly be better known.
Speaker 2: Fetterman has been getting a lot of credit because of
Speaker 2: the stuff he says on Israel from people on the right,
Speaker 2: And I mean, I don't know how to say this.
Speaker 2: Do you think Fetterman just took a person that people
Speaker 2: were saying the guy's brain didn't work because of his
Speaker 2: own stuff, or why would Fetterman and so it was
Speaker 2: he just took that personally.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think that that's I think that's exactly what
Speaker 4: it was. I think Fetterman said, you know, if you
Speaker 4: were to judge everybody by how their brain operates, allegedly,
Speaker 4: then I wouldn't be here. But to be the most
Speaker 4: vocal and curse out your I mean, he cursed out
Speaker 4: Chuck Schumer, he cursed out everybody that you betrayed him,
Speaker 4: that you betrayed Joe Biden. And he was the only
Speaker 4: one in the arm. He stood by himself, so I
Speaker 4: give him credit for that. But it was an explosive scene.
Speaker 4: So he talked to Alex Thompson about that, which I
Speaker 4: thought was fascinating. How he was the sole voice to
Speaker 4: stand with Biden when they said, hey, you're going to
Speaker 4: lose New Jersey, Fetterman said, we ride with him till
Speaker 4: the very end. Uh, and everyone else at that point
Speaker 4: was trying to, you know, get him to drop out.
Speaker 4: So that was really interesting. I think it's fascinating that
Speaker 4: right now Joe Biden's team is still leaking information. Before
Speaker 4: this came out yesterday, before the debate, Biden had a
Speaker 4: one point five percent lead in Minnesota and Virginia. That
Speaker 4: was before the debate. Had Biden been on the ticket,
Speaker 4: it would have been, you know, not nineteen eighty four landslide,
Speaker 4: but nineteen eighty eight landslide. It would have been a
Speaker 4: serious contention where New York and Illinois would have been
Speaker 4: in close single digits and New Jersey would have just
Speaker 4: been gone. So don't I don't I think that right
Speaker 4: now they're rather than looking for a leader, looking for
Speaker 4: a mess, looking for something, they're still kind of sent
Speaker 4: there and blaming each other and who gets to inherit
Speaker 4: the throne of a dead party. That's fascinating. But I
Speaker 4: will say one thing. I think if they did a poll,
Speaker 4: they did a study Democrats and what is the message
Speaker 4: going forward to Ezra Klein has this stupid book out
Speaker 4: about abundance and all this stuss but didn't respond at all.
Speaker 4: Voters didn't care. They still want a populus message. I
Speaker 4: think if I was advising a Democrat, what they would
Speaker 4: be doing. There's big, the big, beautiful bill that's coming out.
Speaker 4: There is a provision in it that forbid states to
Speaker 4: sit there and enforce AI technology, any any enforcement AI reforms,
Speaker 4: any AI development, anything I prevent states from even doing
Speaker 4: an act think any of that or any protections from AI.
Speaker 4: That's what they should be jumping on right now, because
Speaker 4: that's where the fears are. That's my next episode of
Speaker 4: the podcast comes on Thursday on A Numbers Game is
Speaker 4: about the genuine fears of AI in job lock and
Speaker 4: the populist backlash that will be as severe, if not
Speaker 4: more severe, than immigration itself.
Speaker 2: That's really interesting. Go check out. It's a numbers Game
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Speaker 2: Before I let you go quick one kind of a
Speaker 2: lightning round question here, who's the most powerful democrat in America?
Speaker 6: Right now?
Speaker 4: AOC and Bernie sand Bernie Sanders number one, and then
Speaker 4: AOC is number two.
Speaker 2: Wow, Bernie Sanders for sure? All right? Ryan Gerdusky, always insightful.
Speaker 2: Good to have you on, my friend, Thank.
Speaker 4: You, thank you bye.
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Speaker 2: starting in five years, that all of a sudden you're
Speaker 2: going to get like a fraction of it means that,
Speaker 2: you know, if you're a prime working age now, we
Speaker 2: could start to set up different programs and we could
Speaker 2: start to prepare people for means testing and you know,
Speaker 2: and change, Like, there are ways to fix this thing
Speaker 2: that don't hurt people who were promised and paid in
Speaker 2: good faith and are on it or about to be
Speaker 2: on it. But if you're twenty five. It's not going
Speaker 2: to work for you to say, oh, well, from age
Speaker 2: sixty five to one hundred, because that's how long people
Speaker 2: are going to start to live. By the way, I'm
Speaker 2: just gonna get paid this or I'm gonna have everything
Speaker 2: paid by the guard. It's gonna have to change at
Speaker 2: some point, So I just I want to be clear.
Speaker 2: You know, my dad's you know, he gets social security, right,
Speaker 2: he deserves it. No one's touching anyone's social Security that's
Speaker 2: getting it now. No one's touching anyone's medicare is getting
Speaker 2: it now. The change would come over a ten year horizon,
Speaker 2: a budget set in place now that makes some of
Speaker 2: the switches necessary to allow us to be on a
Speaker 2: sound fiscal foot, or just don't we just let's just
Speaker 2: you know, Thelmon, Louise Baby, let's hit the accelerator and
Speaker 2: let's just take this guy off a cliff. Let's just go,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. We'll hold each other's hands,
Speaker 2: we'll look at each other, and we'll just take this
Speaker 2: thing off the cliff together. It was fun while it lasted. America, Uh,
Speaker 2: Jay and Ohio, here we go six months from turning
Speaker 2: sixty five. What's going on, Jay.
Speaker 7: Well, yeah, you don't have to poke me. The government's
Speaker 7: doing that well enough already. I yes, I'm months away
Speaker 7: from being forced onto Medicare and I don't want to.
Speaker 7: I want to take care of it myself. But I
Speaker 7: am I am not allowed. If I don't, you know,
Speaker 7: a role for Medicare, they'll penalize me anyway. What kind
Speaker 7: of a perverse system is that? So you know, mister President,
Speaker 7: mister vice president, if you're listening, this grow our way
Speaker 7: out of out of the debt isn't going to happen.
Speaker 7: It's about force. And the other thing is the insurance industry,
Speaker 7: and I'm wired about this. The insurance industry loves the
Speaker 7: concept of Medicare because they can offload all the old
Speaker 7: schmucks like me and the government will take care of us,
Speaker 7: quote unquote. It's all about force. I don't have any freedom.
Speaker 7: I want the freedom to not enroll in Medicare, and
Speaker 7: I don't have that at this point. And it's infuriating.
Speaker 3: Jay.
Speaker 2: You're spot on and in an excellent call, and you're
Speaker 2: seeing this with clear eyes, full hearts. Can't lose And
Speaker 2: thank you for thank you for the call, Thanks for
Speaker 2: being Look, it's a mess. Everybody, it's a mess. Elon
Speaker 2: knows it's a mess. All he does is look at
Speaker 2: balance sheets and look at you know, projections based on
Speaker 2: numbers into the future and figure out how to fix things.
Speaker 2: And he told us we got to fix this, and
Speaker 2: we're not fixing it. And he just said that, and
Speaker 2: he said the people that are voting for the should
Speaker 2: be ashamed. Ashamed on the Republican side. Just is what
Speaker 2: Elon's saying. So he's a smart guy. I think that's
Speaker 2: putting it mildly. Michael in Oswego, New York.
Speaker 8: What's going on, Mike, Hi about second time caller?
Speaker 2: Apparently you had found the first time, so that's good news.
Speaker 8: I sure did. I listened to you guys every day.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 8: Anyway, I want. I was calling to jump back to
Speaker 8: the segment about income taxes, and I told the guy
Speaker 8: that I first talked to. I said, you know, well, anyway,
Speaker 8: my mother and father were both teachers, you know, high
Speaker 8: school and junior high. Sure, so I mean when I
Speaker 8: needed help with my homework and that. You know, my
Speaker 8: mother was a specialist in history. She's still after she retired,
Speaker 8: so I got a lot of that. But to my memory,
Speaker 8: didn't FDR institute income taxes at the time that World
Speaker 8: War two with the US was imminent or we had
Speaker 8: already gone into the war and they've to get more
Speaker 8: money to hire people and build the bombs and all
Speaker 8: that in the planes. And it was never supposed to
Speaker 8: be a permanent thing. Now that's what I remember reading
Speaker 8: in history. Now I don't know if that's true. I mean,
Speaker 8: you're making that.
Speaker 2: Well, the first income tax was actually back in It
Speaker 2: was the Revenue Act of eighteen sixty one to fund
Speaker 2: the Civil War. So it is wars. So if you're
Speaker 2: thinking about it in this context, it was wars that
Speaker 2: got us to or a major war that got us
Speaker 2: to a tax in the first place. But the federal
Speaker 2: income tax then kind of disappeared. It comes back in
Speaker 2: eighteen ninety four with the Wilson Tariff Act two percent
Speaker 2: tax on incomes over four thousand dollars. But the modern
Speaker 2: federal incomes is the Sixteenth Amendment nineteen thirteen. So the
Speaker 2: history of taxation, I mean, I think what you're raising
Speaker 2: here is interesting, Michael, Thank you for calling in the
Speaker 2: history of taxation is one of your fits and starts,
Speaker 2: or you know, two steps forward one step back. But
Speaker 2: once they got us with the sixteenth Amendment, then that
Speaker 2: was rough. That was rough. That was when the bad
Speaker 2: things started. That was when the bad stuff with the
Speaker 2: taxes started to happen. I mean, you know, it bums
Speaker 2: me out. I'll tell you this. Now that I live
Speaker 2: in a zero state income tax place, it's just unthinkable
Speaker 2: to go back to one of these super high tax
Speaker 2: dates like New York or California, because you're just you're
Speaker 2: paying so much more of the money you work for
Speaker 2: and getting nothing. Additionally, you're getting nothing. In fact, I
Speaker 2: would argue that the services that I get in South
Speaker 2: Florida from you know, on a whole range of things,
Speaker 2: is better than what I was getting in New York City.
Speaker 2: And so with that, you say, well, why am I
Speaker 2: paying more? Just because Democrats have bad ideas and they're
Speaker 2: in charge, and so they just take more of your money.
Speaker 2: I wish that the notion that we have all these
Speaker 2: states where you have state income tax, some of which
Speaker 2: tax you by the day. I always have this thing
Speaker 2: where I tell people this, I think Utah is one
Speaker 2: of them. By Utah, what is going on with you? Utah?
Speaker 2: A lot of great stuff about Utah beautiful state, lovely people.
Speaker 2: But I think you get taxed by the day you
Speaker 2: work there, because I think I had to pay like,
Speaker 2: you know, fifty dollars to the state of Utah once
Speaker 2: and had to have like a little you guys, would
Speaker 2: we have a huge auditing in the Salt Lake City,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm talking about. I think that definitely
Speaker 2: New York per day you are taxed in New York
Speaker 2: City if you work, right, if you're there with your
Speaker 2: family over a week and on vacation of course you
Speaker 2: know no, but if you're there and you know, you
Speaker 2: flying to New York and you do work out of
Speaker 2: your New York office or something, they can tax you
Speaker 2: for that day and every day that you're there. So
Speaker 2: you just feel like, all right, well that's pretty annoying.
Speaker 2: You don't want more of that. Jack in Ohio wants
Speaker 2: the way and what's going on?
Speaker 6: Jack? Hey, happy anniversary a week ahead of time? Real quick?
Speaker 6: Just want to talk about.
Speaker 2: Like what the you mean to Clay and Buck anniversary, right,
Speaker 2: because like the Carry and Buck anniversary of getting married
Speaker 2: was back in February. Just making sure I'm like, I
Speaker 2: have to get my wife a gift?
Speaker 6: Uhh, No, not again if you want to stay in
Speaker 6: good graces. Yeah, my major concern okay. And Carolyn love
Speaker 6: Itt just even announced it, you know, on a clip
Speaker 6: that you just played where she was talking about what
Speaker 6: Trump inherited okay from the Biden Harris regime. Okay. My
Speaker 6: point is Biden and Harris and Majorca okay, who caused
Speaker 6: a great problem with the immigration okay, are not running
Speaker 6: for office. Yes, we need to hang this on them. Okay. However,
Speaker 6: there are two hundred and sixty Democrats okay in Congress
Speaker 6: right now, and I can't remember hearing any one of them,
Speaker 6: maybe except Federman talking about the problem okay, immigration. And
Speaker 6: I'm looking at the midterms okay, that's right around the corner,
Speaker 6: and I would like to hear the media talk about
Speaker 6: all of the Democrats who've been sitting on their hands
Speaker 6: and they're going to be up for reelection, and let's
Speaker 6: not forget them. Biden and Harris they're not running again.
Speaker 6: So and you even have the down ticket okay, which
Speaker 6: goes to state and local. So I would like to
Speaker 6: hear more about all the Democrats. We have somebody here
Speaker 6: in our office okay, in Ohio or she's been in
Speaker 6: office forty years as a congresswoman, and she votes ninety
Speaker 6: five percent of the time right along with the ticket.
Speaker 2: Okay, a few things, thank you Jack, Thank you Jack,
Speaker 2: and Ohio. A couple of things on what you're saying.
Speaker 2: One is you'll be a lot more talk about this
Speaker 2: as we get closer to the midterms. So this is
Speaker 2: you're right now calling in at the the absolute low
Speaker 2: point I think of political midterm conversation. June after a
Speaker 2: presidential election is when you're gonna hear probably the least well,
Speaker 2: I mean, right after an election maybe, but I'm just
Speaker 2: there's so much talk about politics in general that'll be
Speaker 2: going on, and all the thinking about the last election.
Speaker 2: But as we get into certainly the beginning of next
Speaker 2: year and then into next summer, you're gonna have a
Speaker 2: lot of talk about all and we're gonna be talking
Speaker 2: about them on this show. So that's part one. Part
Speaker 2: two is the reason the Biden revelations matter is that
Speaker 2: it goes to one the fact that more people than
Speaker 2: ever should wake up to the fact that the media
Speaker 2: is the corporate Democrat media lies and has no integrity whatsoever,
Speaker 2: That CNN as an entity has no integrity, The people
Speaker 2: who call themselves journalists are not journalists. They are propagandists.
Speaker 2: And I know that you all know that, but we
Speaker 2: need not fifty one percent, but fifty four percent of
Speaker 2: the country to know that, and maybe fifty seven percent
Speaker 2: of the country. Now you know this is this is
Speaker 2: why I think it does matter. Because they've relied on
Speaker 2: a media industrial complex for a long time to do
Speaker 2: their heavy lifting for them as Democrats, and we want
Speaker 2: to make that harder. And they all lied about Biden
Speaker 2: and we caught them and we know and now they're
Speaker 2: trying to wriggle out of any kind of accountability. So
Speaker 2: I don't think it's just a kind of like a
Speaker 2: parlor game here that we on the right are playing.
Speaker 2: I think there is real meaning to it, and also
Speaker 2: just shows you how ruthless the Democrats are. I mean,
Speaker 2: you should all know every day there was there was
Speaker 2: a right choice in a wrong choice in this last election,
Speaker 2: and if you voted for Trump, you made the right choice.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. You know, there's no there's no
Speaker 2: other way around it, you know. I view that as
Speaker 2: as clear as day. Let's take here we go. Gg
Speaker 2: Dave from North Carolina listens on WPTI play.
Speaker 9: It please well, but to Day from North Carolina, retired
Speaker 9: Navy on turnament seventy, limited income, You guys get rid
Speaker 9: of Medicare, social security thing that I have to support
Speaker 9: me for my last ten years. What the hell am
Speaker 9: I supposed to do if you change the system? Nobody
Speaker 9: has an answer.
Speaker 2: Well, well, Dave, the way the answer is you don't
Speaker 2: change it for people who are on it right now.
Speaker 2: That would be wrong, that would be unfair. You made
Speaker 2: your plans, and you paid your taxes, and you did
Speaker 2: your planning with the belief that it would be there
Speaker 2: for you. That is a covenant that the state so
Speaker 2: to the big s state right that the government has
Speaker 2: made with you. You're not going to you know, that's not
Speaker 2: what anybody who talks about reforming the system in a
Speaker 2: serious way. But see what they hope and this Democrats
Speaker 2: will do is that they want they want the reaction
Speaker 2: from Dave. Oh they're going to take away your social security.
Speaker 2: Oh they're going to take away your Medicare. Now vote
Speaker 2: in the communists, you know. No, it's not about taking
Speaker 2: it away from people who have it now. It's about
Speaker 2: looking back with the numbers in front of you, where
Speaker 2: can we begin to create changes here in off ramps
Speaker 2: so that people have plenty of time and plenty of
Speaker 2: notice for their financial future. That you know, there's going
Speaker 2: to be means testing for Medicare. If you're you know,
Speaker 2: a very wealthy person, you're not going to get medicare,
Speaker 2: or you'll get some you know, different level of medicare.
Speaker 2: There's going to be a raise in the retirement age.
Speaker 2: That's not fair if you're sixty four. But if you're
Speaker 2: my age and you're told, you know what, you're gonna
Speaker 2: you're not gonna retire sixty five, You're gonna retire sixty seven. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, that's something that's something that I think my
Speaker 2: generation should just say, you know what, we're going to
Speaker 2: live longer than the generation before us on average, so
Speaker 2: I think it's fair that we actually start a little
Speaker 2: later in retirement, you know, a year or two. These
Speaker 2: are the things that we're talking about. But see, it
Speaker 2: upsets people and they don't want to hear it, and
Speaker 2: they get told the fear mongering, and so all right,
Speaker 2: look we go full thumb on, Louise. We're into convertible.
Speaker 2: Let's take it off the cliff. Let's spend ourselves into
Speaker 2: a big fireball at the bottom, you know, and let
Speaker 2: AOC and Bernie Sanders stare at us over the cliff.
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