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Speaker 1: But the tigrapher were in swater. I am Jody who

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Speaker 1: figure out where is Jody Houston Strude. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Jody dot com. Doctor Jory Crasen, psychologist, Faculties Saint Leo University,

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Speaker 1: This is Jody's sister, Joanne Nathy. Joanne, thank you for

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Speaker 1: It's unfathomable to me how someone that is so present

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Speaker 1: Low TV. Caroline, thank you for being with us. You've

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Speaker 1: she's in your living room every morning. In Mason City

425
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,639
Speaker 1: in the surrounding communities, people feel as though they know you,

426
00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:29,040
Speaker 1: and so everybody wanted to help. You had dogs, you

427
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: had psychics. You had so many people looking just to

428
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: see if they could find clues to Joey and Nathan,

429
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,919
Speaker 1: this is Jodie's sister. Do you remember the use of

430
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: psychics trying to find Jody. Oh? Yeah, we had telephone

431
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,879
Speaker 1: calls and we were on a show with the psychics

432
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 1: too at the beginning. Could I clarify something that always

433
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:54,200
Speaker 1: bugs me that I hear them says, like I heard

434
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:57,040
Speaker 1: this morning again that she was late many times for work,

435
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: And I never had that impression. A few times she

436
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: was late for work. But Jody was very conscientious about

437
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 1: her job. I mean, she wanted perfection. I would not

438
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: say she was late many times. A few times she

439
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: was a little late. Probably she did jam packer days

440
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: way too much. She worked, stayed up late writing thank

441
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 1: you notes, and you know, she just used every hour.

442
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know, And I was trying to

443
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 1: clear that earlier. Joey and Nathy. Through my research and

444
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,200
Speaker 1: investigation of the case, I found other co workers that

445
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 1: said she was never light or really late. She was

446
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: so conscientious. But no, she was late a few times.

447
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Yeah, I'm glad you said that, because I

448
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: don't want the impression at least and no more important

449
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: it factors into what happened that morning because she told

450
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: the co worker I'm i'm a away here. I'm sure

451
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,399
Speaker 1: she was very nervous at that point because she was

452
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: so conscientious. I'm sure. Take a listen to Brian Master Kimt.

453
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: Three neighbors apparently heard screams that morning, and none of

454
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 1: them are able to really give an indicator about what

455
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 1: those screams were about. As we started to hear more

456
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 1: and more of what happened, You've got a sense that

457
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 1: this is awful and I don't know how this is

458
00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: going to turn out good crime stories with Nancy Grace.

459
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 1: You guys, we're talking about Jody, who's in truth, just

460
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, that goes missing seemingly into thin air.

461
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: To Wendy Patrick, California prosecutor, author of Red Flags and

462
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: hosts Today with Doctor Wendy Casey BQ in San Diego, Wendy,

463
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: you know, a timeline can start with something thing seemingly innocuous.

464
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: And I will refer to a really good example where

465
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: in the Nicole Brown Ron Goldman double murder, the neighbors

466
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: were first alerted by the dog. I believe the talk's

467
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: name was Achidas, as they say, mournful or plaintive. Well,

468
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: that really started the timeline of the night. And here

469
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: the neighbors hearing these screams, Wendy, that's right. And you

470
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: know a lot of people would have called the police

471
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: right away upon hearing those screams, And a timeline would

472
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: also include people that were up at six am. This

473
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: was a morning anchor. She was in the morning rooms

474
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: of the breakfast tables across this small town, where more

475
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: people were likely to know her, to recognize her, to

476
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 1: know her name. It also, when you talk about a timeline,

477
00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 1: you would want to know if she had a stalker.

478
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 1: And I've prosecuted several men who have stalked news anchors specifically,

479
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: but they were news anchors that were on when they

480
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: were awake. So that timeline would also sweep in everyone

481
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: that would necessarily have seen her, have seen something, who

482
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: would have been up who knows who she is, because

483
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: they would have been awakened in a position to be

484
00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: not only sharp many people the sharper in the morning,

485
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: but also in a position to notice something out of

486
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: the Ordinary'd like those screams that, as you point out,

487
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: really starts that timeline. Yeah, I mean if you hear

488
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: a scream at four thirty five o'clock in the morning,

489
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 1: and there's a big difference hearing the neighbor calling the

490
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,719
Speaker 1: dog and a woman screaming. I'm very surprised no one

491
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: called police. But you know what, again, that's what we're

492
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: working with. They did not take a Listen. Now to

493
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: ross Curious at k STPTV, Jody's closest friends in Mason

494
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: City are for the first time talking about their suspicions

495
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: because it could possibly be someone that we know with

496
00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: all the times I've talked to detectives, they feel that

497
00:30:55,960 --> 00:31:00,120
Speaker 1: someone stopped her, watched her, know what her schedule was,

498
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,720
Speaker 1: and was definitely going to plan on I'm doing something

499
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 1: that morning. Right up to her disappearance, this group of

500
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:10,560
Speaker 1: people socialized with Jody. As they realized Jody's abductor might

501
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: not be a stranger, they grew uncomfortable with one of

502
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,240
Speaker 1: their friends. They see signals you may not have seen

503
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 1: that make me think that there is always a possibility

504
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: that could be somebody that we you know. Now, take

505
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: a listen to Brian Mastree and Beth Bednar, former anchor

506
00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: from KIMT and k A A L. Speaking to our

507
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 1: friends at ID. Investigators start to zero in on someone

508
00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,920
Speaker 1: who was with Jody the night before. They knew that

509
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 1: she had been with a friend twenty years her senior,

510
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: John van says, John Van Sis is considerably older than her,

511
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: recently divorced to book to masa city, You've spent a

512
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: lot of time together. Two weeks prior to her disappearance,

513
00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: John had had a birthday party for who is celebrated

514
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: twenty first day. It seems though he was the last

515
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: one to see Jody alive. To Caroline Low, investigative journalist,

516
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: and you can find her at find Jody dot com,

517
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: find Jodi podcast and Caroline Low TV. Caroline, who is

518
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 1: this guy? And so he's the last one to see

519
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: her alive the night before? That's what he says. His

520
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: name is John Van Sis. He was twenty two years

521
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: older than Jody, and just two days earlier that weekend,

522
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: he and several of Jody's friends have gotten together in

523
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: northern Iowa to go on a water skiing trip. In fact,

524
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: she writes about him in her journal. The last thing

525
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: she writes about two days before she disappeared, talks about

526
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 1: what a great time she had with John Van Seise

527
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: her other friends Annie Cruz and Tammy Baker. So he's

528
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: an older friend who has spent a lot of time

529
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: with her in the last couple months before she disappears.

530
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: And to you, Jay Alberia, former commander Woodbury Police Department, Jay,

531
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: did he worked with her in what capacity? No? John

532
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: Van says did not work with her. With Jody, there

533
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: are acquaintances. As far as we know, John had lived

534
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: in the apartment complex at one time, as possibly where

535
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 1: he met Jody that became friends. Had a mutual interest

536
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: in waterskiing and John had a boat. So John was

537
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: taking her water skiing, and we believed that he was

538
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: also helping her learn how to water ski. Did Joe

539
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:28,040
Speaker 1: and Nathy what was her relationship with John Vansis? Well,

540
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 1: actually I didn't know about the guy till this all happened.

541
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 1: She had mentioned to my mom. My mom cautioned her

542
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 1: that she was not really dating this guy, but he

543
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,719
Speaker 1: was a friend, you know and stuff. And my mom said, well,

544
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: you better be careful because you know he might be

545
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: getting romantically interested in you. Oh, we're just good friends,

546
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: Jody would say, you know, and so but I after

547
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: hearing about after it all happened, we know that he

548
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: was quite obsessed with Jody. Yeah, oh, oh, just he

549
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: wanted always to be a rounder and he wanted to um,

550
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: you know. He he even named his boat after her,

551
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: which was odd. And the friends knew that too, and

552
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,080
Speaker 1: they cautioned Jody. They said, Jody, are you sure that

553
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 1: John isn't more interested in you than you think? And

554
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: it was just very obvious that he that he has been,

555
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: was very interested in her. Yeah, as a matter of fact,

556
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: you're absolutely correct. Joe An Nathy, this is Jody's sister

557
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: joining us. Take a listen to Mary McGuire. Kimt forced

558
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,000
Speaker 1: to play the role of both journalist and friend. Robin

559
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: Wolf from reported on the disappearance, even interviewing the man

560
00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 1: who Jody was seen with last What was his demean

561
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: her life? Joyful, almost strangely happy, and telling me how

562
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: he named his boat after and how he just loved her.

563
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: She has no doubt in her mind. Batman, an older

564
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: gentleman who was friends with Jody, is the one responsible

565
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: for her dis furance, cautioned Jody about their friendship in television.

566
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:08,319
Speaker 1: We have a gut instinct about things. My gut, and

567
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:14,279
Speaker 1: my instinct tells me that he's responsible. WCCO is not

568
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: naming the man now living in Arizona since he has

569
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 1: not been charged with any crime, but Wolfram isn't the

570
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 1: only one who shares those same suspicions about him. Last March,

571
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,479
Speaker 1: find Jodie dot Com, a website dedicated to the case,

572
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 1: reported Mason City police served him with a search warrant

573
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: seeking GPS data on two of his cars. Straight out

574
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:36,680
Speaker 1: to Caroline Low, Caroline, what can you tell me about

575
00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 1: the search warrant served on this guy, this much older

576
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 1: gentleman twenty two years for saying year that apparently was

577
00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: besotted with her. The search warrants occurred in two seventeen,

578
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: and they remained sealed to this day. Each year they'll

579
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: probably be resealed by a judge. While what their police

580
00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: were seeking, it was two vehicles associated with John van Seiss,

581
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 1: vehicles that he did not have back in nineteen ninety five,

582
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: they weren't manufactured soil a few years later. We don't

583
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,919
Speaker 1: know specifically what they were seeking. Their probably will cause

584
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 1: statements affidavit is not public. What we do know, as

585
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:17,000
Speaker 1: they said, is they were after she disappeared. The possible

586
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 1: theory is that they were seeking to see if maybe

587
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: he was going to some kind of a crime scene

588
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,280
Speaker 1: when he was back in Iowa. He was subpoena before

589
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: a federal grand jury in that same month where he

590
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: was ordered to provide palm prints, fingerprints, and DNA sample,

591
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: but we don't know in the chief later set it

592
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: did not produce any evidence I'm guessing Wendy Patrick that

593
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 1: they would want to compare. He has not been named

594
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: as a suspect. Number one, let's just state that any

595
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: potential palm prints or fingerprints is something found on that car.

596
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: Oh absolutely, And you know, Joanne and your other guests,

597
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: what we've done is we bumped the timeline back to

598
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: even the night before. So you talk about that palm print,

599
00:36:58,120 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: where it came from, who might have made it. Now

600
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,720
Speaker 1: we're sweeping in people that may have seen her within

601
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,320
Speaker 1: even the last twelve hours. And yes, you know forensics.

602
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: I know this happens a long time ago, but we

603
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 1: still today had some of what we had even back then,

604
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: good old fashioned forensics, especially in a case like this

605
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 1: where that's all that they had left at the scene.

606
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: There was no footage or cell phone pinging what we

607
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: do nowadays. A paul print like that would have been

608
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 1: an enormous piece of evidence. It could have been anyone.

609
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:29,359
Speaker 1: Everybody in the area knows Jody who's in true. They

610
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: say her every single morning. Take a listen to Jennifer

611
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Austin ka R eleven. Don't think because the world is

612
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 1: consoled with other news, that she's forgotten. Caroline Lowe is

613
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: an investigative journalist and part of the Fine Jodi Team,

614
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,520
Speaker 1: a group of investigators who continue to look into the

615
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: unsolved case what happened to Jody. They launched a podcast

616
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:52,640
Speaker 1: this month on what would have been Jodie's fifty second birthday,

617
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: hoping to keep eyes on her story and find answers

618
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: about what happened the early morning of June twenty seventh,

619
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five, when Jody left her apartment late for

620
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: her job anchoring the morning news, America's most highly publicized

621
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: missing children she never made it. She was very easy

622
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 1: to follow. You knew her schedule anchoring the six am

623
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: and new news, her whole number, her address, or even

624
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: listed the local directory. She would have been very easy

625
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: to find. What could have been done differently? And can

626
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 1: there be a save? Take a listen to our cut

627
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:31,120
Speaker 1: sixteen A. This is Laurley ABC six KAA l listen.

628
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 1: I can't remembering or later work. She's a professional journalism journalist.

629
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: Then general manager John Shine seen during a press conference

630
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: later that day describing a very different Jody, a devoted

631
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 1: employee who took her job seriously. Love. I've made it

632
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: clear this case is not going to go away for us.

633
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: For many decades, this case has puzzled the Mason City

634
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: Police Department. What do you think you, as chief can

635
00:38:57,040 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: do different than the chiefs prior to you that have

636
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 1: had this is under their tail and nothing has come about.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here in second guess decisions made

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Speaker 1: the officers in the field twenty five years ago about

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Speaker 1: what they did. I will tell you that I don't

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Speaker 1: believe that any of them probably thought that we would

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Speaker 1: still be working this case today. Chief Jeff Brinkley says,

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Speaker 1: bringing a fresh pair of eyes to the case could

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Speaker 1: help cold cases. I think there are of interest to

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. It's obviously a case that affected

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Speaker 1: Mason City, and so if we could put some closure

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Speaker 1: to that, I'm interested in doing that. To Caroline Low,

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Speaker 1: investigative journalists find Jodi dot Com. Caroline, where does it

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Speaker 1: stand now? There was one reporting of a body found

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Speaker 1: out of Mason City River. We don't believe it remains,

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Speaker 1: and we don't believe that was Jody. A PI popped

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Speaker 1: up and said he had information that he is still

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Speaker 1: not shared with anyone in the family. Have there been

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Speaker 1: any developments, Caroline that we could really sink our teeth into, Nancy,

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Speaker 1: I really wish I could say there were, And we

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Speaker 1: get tips all the time that find Jody dot Com,

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Speaker 1: but we had no information that authorities, anybody is any

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Speaker 1: closer to finding Jody Husing Trout today than they were

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Speaker 1: almost twenty six years ago. To Joanne Nathan, this is

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Speaker 1: Jody's sister, Joanne, what is your most vivid memory of

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Speaker 1: your sister Jody. Well, she was always so very caring

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Speaker 1: about us. She always wanted us to be happy. That

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Speaker 1: was a big interest, you know, if she was working

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Speaker 1: at a resort and her time off, she did invite

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Speaker 1: us up to use the facilities, and oh she was

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Speaker 1: just so bubbly. She's personality. Plus you know, she probably

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Speaker 1: didn't have the best speaking ability necessarily, but oh, her

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Speaker 1: personality on the air just came through, I know, Doug

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Speaker 1: Marbek Tody. The ratings were very high and one thing though,

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Speaker 1: she revealed too much about her personal life on the

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Speaker 1: air also, but that's you know, Jody. She was so

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Speaker 1: personable with everyone and people felt they really really knew her.

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Speaker 1: And all you need is somebody who's not playing with

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Speaker 1: a full deck to become obsessed and sitting and listening

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Speaker 1: to her daily routine. She would often talk where she

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Speaker 1: went jogging and what activity she was going to do

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Speaker 1: that day, and she probably went. She probably did too

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Speaker 1: much of that on the air. You know, it was

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Speaker 1: too personable, but they liked it. Viewers loved it. Find

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Speaker 1: dy dot com also Jodie's Network of Hope dot org

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Speaker 1: tipline nine seven zero four five eight Jody nine seven

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Speaker 1: zero four five eight five six three four. The search

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Speaker 1: goes on for Jody Houston Street Nancy Grace Crime Story

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Speaker 1: signing off Goodbye Friend,