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Speaker 2: Hey, Everybody, Welcome back to another edition of Naked. The

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Speaker 1: added a lot of personal things to it, and she

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Speaker 1: was very honest in how she wanted to approach it.

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Speaker 1: The show didn't go, but that experience of working with

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Speaker 1: her was you know, it was great for me too,

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Speaker 1: of seeing her come out like that, and she kind

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Speaker 1: of commented on that, I think when you're on the

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Speaker 1: Emmy of how you know how much that really helped

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Speaker 1: her to put herself on the page, I guess as

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Speaker 1: best way to put it, so to answer the first question.

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Speaker 1: I enjoy it. You know, it's fun, you know, doing

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Speaker 1: that kind of thing, and why not nobody else is

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Speaker 1: going to do it? We got to do it ourselves.

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Speaker 5: Odde, who are you telling? Who are you telling? Are

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Speaker 5: you speaking preaching to the choir? I already know.

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Speaker 1: That's why I'm on the Carr Championship.

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Speaker 5: Hello, you doing favors? You got to make sure we

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Speaker 5: lift each other up as well.

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Speaker 1: I'm not doing favorite.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you know what time it is? Fast forward if

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Speaker 2: you need to. But I have to pay all of

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Speaker 2: my bills. I say that every time. So that's about

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Speaker 2: three minutes of commercial breaks. Please be patient and come back.

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Speaker 2: Larry Wilmore is dropping knowledge.

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Speaker 4: Every champion and car every champion is to be a champion,

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Speaker 4: a champion and carry Chappion and carried chat Beata Champion

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Speaker 4: they carry Chappie and the champion they carry Chappi and

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Speaker 4: they carried chap.

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Speaker 3: N you work.

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Speaker 5: Thank you guys for dealing with those commercials. I appreciate

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Speaker 5: you so much.

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Speaker 2: Now, Larry Wilmore talks about all things, including whether or

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Speaker 2: not my Lakers get it done. He's not very hopeful, Las,

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Speaker 2: He's honest, uh, but we shall see enjoy naked. I

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Speaker 2: think of how you have shepherded, or have touched, or

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Speaker 2: have been a part of so many careers and so

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Speaker 2: many lives of young black women who are trying to

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Speaker 2: make it, And I think it's very, very intentional, and

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Speaker 2: it's encouraging without the creepy you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: Don't get to get back, you know, we don't get

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Speaker 2: to get that like sometimes we don't, you know, want

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Speaker 2: to be able to be creative, and you want to

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Speaker 2: be free without the other things that come with it.

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Speaker 2: When I think of all the projects that you you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm talking about, you know, just just a

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Speaker 2: part of being a woman in this world. I don't

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Speaker 2: care what you look like, how tall you are, sure

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Speaker 2: you are how it does not matter.

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Speaker 5: It's just some. At one point for me career, you

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Speaker 5: have to say, I don't want to fucking flirt with you, sir.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to.

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Speaker 5: I don't like it. Stop it, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Or let me let it be reciprocal, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean? Like just said, can can I just be

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Speaker 2: smart for right now? With that being said, this is

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Speaker 2: what I am looking forward to.

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Speaker 5: Smart.

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Speaker 2: You have this great podcast Black on Era that I love,

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Speaker 2: and every time I want it, you make me feel

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Speaker 2: like I have to think, uh, several different layers deeper

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Speaker 2: than what I normally would. And I think the last

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Speaker 2: debate I forget, oh it was about Lebron and whether

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Speaker 2: or not he had a point to talk about. Why

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Speaker 2: don't you guys ask me about Jerry Jones. And this

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Speaker 2: is where we transition into sports because cerebrally, I would

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Speaker 2: love to talk to you about our team. But some

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Speaker 2: things for these topics have really and I'm also I

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Speaker 2: also know that some of these topics can end up

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Speaker 2: on TV shows right like all the time. And I

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Speaker 2: think of Jah Morant and this is the second time

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Speaker 2: in two months Jah Morant was on social media with

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Speaker 2: a gun, and in my mind, everyone, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 2: I ask you this. If he was a gun enthusiast

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Speaker 2: and he collected guns, pistols, guns, rifles, all sorts of guns,

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Speaker 2: and he displayed them on social media as a proud

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Speaker 2: collection in Boston a case and he could give you

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Speaker 2: the history of it would we view him and guns

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Speaker 2: differently as opposed to how we view him now. I

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Speaker 2: wonder your thoughts.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great question. And yeah, because they're like,

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Speaker 1: are they taking away his second Amendment right? Is he

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Speaker 1: not allowed to have a gun because he's what's going on?

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Speaker 1: Is it the image that he's presenting, Like, what is

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Speaker 1: the actual objection? Is it just the gun itself? If

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Speaker 1: he presented it like that, as you say, as a

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Speaker 1: gun enthusiast, as opposed to you know, basically saying, yeah, nigga,

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Speaker 1: you come up on me, You're going to get popped,

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Speaker 1: you know, which is basically kind of how he's displaying it.

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Speaker 1: Which maybe they're arguing this is not the right image

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Speaker 1: that we want presented in the NBA or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: I think just having a gun. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: there should be anything wrong with just having a gun.

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Speaker 1: That to me is ridiculous, you know, Like, if so,

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Speaker 1: why is.

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Speaker 5: The perception of him waving it with his friends listening

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Speaker 5: to music such a problem?

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great question. I think maybe it's

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Speaker 1: because of what is being implied. I was talking about

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Speaker 1: this about God, now longer you're talking about about I

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Speaker 1: said many times people just focus on the truth of something,

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Speaker 1: you know, But a lot of times, even though something

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Speaker 1: can be true, it's advertising something else, you know. So

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Speaker 1: you can't just ask whether something is true or whether

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Speaker 1: it's valid. You also have to ask what is it advertising?

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Speaker 1: You know, what is the implication here? You know, is

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Speaker 1: he advertising gun safety? I don't think so. I think

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Speaker 1: he's advertising the opposite of that, you know.

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Speaker 3: So so.

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Speaker 5: What what if he was listening to country music and

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Speaker 5: waving it around.

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Speaker 1: Right, Well, you step to say, what is the advertising

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Speaker 1: that country music? Is he advertising I'm shooting my wife

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Speaker 1: because she lied on me and my best friend. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's still you're not advertising a good message there,

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Speaker 1: you know. I think that's the part that we never

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Speaker 1: get clarity around. I think people have less clarity on

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Speaker 1: that than they focus on on the micro of whether

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Speaker 1: an act is valid or not or whatever.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: So I think you have to break it down in

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Speaker 1: that way. Now, having said that, you know, NBA they'll

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Speaker 1: decide what they want to do with this for whatever

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Speaker 1: rules who they want. You know, he could argue, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm a private citizen. The season's over for me. I

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Speaker 1: can have a gun if I want to and we

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Speaker 1: can see where that lands, you know, And I think

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Speaker 1: there's there's validity on both sides. But if I was arguing,

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Speaker 1: if I was the NBA, I would make the argument

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Speaker 1: about what are you advertising? You know, what is the

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Speaker 1: what's the message you're sending out. Are you saying, hey, guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm a gun enthusiast and I'm gonna show you how

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Speaker 1: to clean this gun or you need to protect yourself?

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Speaker 1: Are you advertising hey niggas, you know something come up

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Speaker 1: on you. You just better be ready, you know. You

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Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's like, what are you advertising?

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Speaker 1: What are you advertising? Gang culture?

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Speaker 3: You know?

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Speaker 1: Or this sort of culture? These NBA are these questions.

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Speaker 1: The NBA maybe doesn't want to be a shiadd with

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Speaker 1: that type of culture. And now some people say, wait,

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Speaker 1: what are you saying black culture?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: And that's what I'm That's what I'm asking.

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Speaker 1: We're saying, are you saying we're saying gang culture?

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Speaker 3: All?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 5: Violence?

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Speaker 1: Now, if somebody, if a white person had a gun

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Speaker 1: and was wearing like a Proud Boys thing, it was

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Speaker 1: a January sixth type of thing, I don't think the

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Speaker 1: NBA be happy about that right in that context.

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Speaker 5: Okay, what is a punishment.

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Speaker 1: I'm not here. Let me ask you this though. Here's

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Speaker 1: the big question. Though, knowing that he lost almost forty

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Speaker 1: million dollars because he wasn't on an all star team,

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Speaker 1: you know, based on this incident, what goes through the

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Speaker 1: mind of somebody pull does this again and has all

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Speaker 1: this at Say if I called you carry and I said, Carrie,

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Speaker 1: I want to give you forty million dollars, but here's

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Speaker 1: a caveat, and I'm sorry about this. I know this

595
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Speaker 1: is going to be tough. You can't wave a gun

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Speaker 1: on Instagram Live. I don't know if you can do that, Carrie.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you can pull that off. But

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Speaker 1: that's all good. But I really want to give you

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars. But I'm just gonna have to see

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Speaker 1: in the next week, Carrie, just a week. All I'm

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Speaker 1: saying is a week. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I need I need my gun and I need Instagram Live. No,

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Speaker 5: you're right, Okay. So here's the thing. He's not a

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Speaker 5: serious person.

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Speaker 2: And I say that as a joke because you can't

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Speaker 2: be serious when you have a two hundred million plus

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Speaker 2: a dollar contract coming your way and you cannot find

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Speaker 2: some way to get off of Instagram live with a gun?

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Speaker 2: And who Again, the question goes, who are your friends

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Speaker 2: who feel like is this is a and why do

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Speaker 2: you need a gun? So here, it's not so much

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Speaker 2: even this instant, it's this instance. It's the series of instances.

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Speaker 2: We hear you beat up a seventeen year old kid

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Speaker 2: and you punched him. We hear you went up to

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Speaker 2: the mall uh to a sporting goods store because they

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Speaker 2: were giving your mother or someone in your family a

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Speaker 2: hard time, and you and your friends, you're possible even

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Speaker 2: up there to handle it. These are all things that

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Speaker 2: are documented incidents that have happened. Friends of yours have

621
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Speaker 2: pointed laser guns at people's heads. It's just a series

622
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 2: of things that say, where there's smoke, there's fire. For

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Speaker 2: whatever reasons, you want to play a gangster. So I

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Speaker 2: don't think when we ask the question, what's he advertising,

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Speaker 2: it's been clear and he's been advertising it intentionally. But

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Speaker 2: what do you do when you're talented? Because talent really,

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Speaker 2: for lack of a better word, trump's all. They will

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Speaker 2: keep him, They will give him a Mex contract. They

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Speaker 2: allegedly try to get him help. What do you do

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Speaker 2: in this scenario when you have this star.

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Speaker 1: A couple of things, you know, because I'm a little

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Speaker 1: contrary as you know that, you know, I will argue

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Speaker 1: that I don't think talent Trump's all. I will make

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Speaker 1: the distinction and say that leanning Trump's all. Yeah, sure, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'll make that distinction because we see talented people right

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Speaker 1: who go down. But it's different. Remember when you know,

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Speaker 1: when Kobe had the thing happened in Colorado, I was

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Speaker 1: thinking the same thing. He was in a championship run

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Speaker 1: during that time, you know, and he even he even

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Speaker 1: said winning takes care of everything, which is a very

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Speaker 1: controversial statement at the time, but he you know, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't wrong, as controversy as it was. But he didn't

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Speaker 1: say talent takes care of everything. He said winning, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so if John Moran had two championships behind him,

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Speaker 1: this might be different than John Morant who's never even

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Speaker 1: been to the finals. So because we have seen talented

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Speaker 1: people Gilbert Arenez, remember he lost the whole season because

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Speaker 1: so he had again have I mean, he was Steph

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Speaker 1: Curry of his day in terms of his range and everything.

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Speaker 1: You know, there have been many players who have been

651
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Speaker 1: very talented in the NBA. What's his name? I camp, Well,

652
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: there are a couple people member, Craig Hodges, how great

653
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:02,719
Speaker 1: it was, Surity was there or what's his name? Who

654
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: was doing the protests and everything? Talent is everybody's talented NBA, right,

655
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: But if you can't win, yeah, you ain't got no leverage.

656
00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: My question is this with him carry is where's his father?

657
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, his father's on the sidelines of all these shows.

658
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: You know he's puffing up against Shannon Sharp and everything.

659
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: Why is he not puffing up like that against his son?

660
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,720
Speaker 1: You know why he doesn't. He comes from a middle

661
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: class too family, two parent household. You know, he didn't

662
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 1: grow up on the streets. He didn't grow up you know,

663
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,719
Speaker 1: he grew up in a privileged situation for as far

664
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: as a lot of people and a lot of people

665
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: playing in the NBA at different situations. Look, Jimmy Butler

666
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: was an orphan, for christ sakes. You know, he was

667
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 1: pushed on the streets by his mother. You know, luckily

668
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 1: he was raised by this family. He's a model citizen

669
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 1: in the NBA. You know, I mean Butler. You know,

670
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: if anybody had any right to be angry or you know,

671
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: to be you know, oppose it or whatever not that

672
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: type of thing. But of course, as you say, too,

673
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: he's not a silly person either. He's more of a

674
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: serious person. So this thing that he's doing is so silly.

675
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: And I don't know why his father hasn't stepped in

676
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: in taking that gun away or you know, demanded that

677
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: he changes or isolate him or do whatever. Maybe because

678
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 1: he's on the gravy train, because the other thing winning

679
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: and then the money is a big problem too. People

680
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: get on that payroll, whether it's family members or not,

681
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: and nobody's trying to rock that boat, right.

682
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 5: We don't mess that up. I don't want to mess

683
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 5: up my money. No, I don't know if they're.

684
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 1: Trying to put they're not trying to put a hole

685
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: in that bag, right they.

686
00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 2: However, however, at the same turn, they're missing out on

687
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 2: what could be right, what else that there be Like

688
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: I always use this instance, like don't I use this

689
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: example because I'm a diehard Oprah enthusiast and I and

690
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: a fan and when I met her, I know, people

691
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: say whatever. I love her so much, she can do

692
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 2: no wrong. She walks on water, and I want to

693
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 2: keep it that way. But when I met her, I

694
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 2: always think of this story that she told on her

695
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 2: show of how her sister, when she first started to

696
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 2: make it, sold the story to the National Inquirer that

697
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: she was pregnant at fourteen. Her sister sold the story

698
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 2: for maybe forty or sixty thousand dollars. And this was

699
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 2: early on in the Oprah Show. And she goes, if

700
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,439
Speaker 2: that's all it took to get her out of my life,

701
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. And here she is, fast forward

702
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 2: years later. You think sister would have thought Oprah was

703
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 2: about to be a billionaire. You know what you really

704
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 2: missed out on by selling that ridiculous story point being

705
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: is that if you really can't grab a hold of

706
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 2: him now and he's one of the he's a superstar

707
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 2: in the league, and his future is so bright if

708
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,400
Speaker 2: he starts to win, there's so much more there, not

709
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: even just the money aspect of it, but there's so

710
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,000
Speaker 2: much more there for that family. And I don't see

711
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,399
Speaker 2: anybody thinking bigger picture here. I don't see anybody thinking

712
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: of what could be because to your point, talent does

713
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: not trumpad winning does you haven't done that yet so

714
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: if you put yourself in a position where people can't

715
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: depend on you to win because you're too busy playing

716
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 2: a gangster, then it looks as if there are a

717
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 2: few people who are going to want to start investing

718
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 2: in you in a real way.

719
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 5: Does that make sense?

720
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Absolutely? Like what's the guy's name played for Tampa

721
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: White receiver took a shirt off when he left, Oh Brown,

722
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean, how much talent did ab have?

723
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 4: You know?

724
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,320
Speaker 1: And he just really talented, so talented, you know, he

725
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: could you know, him at seventy percent was still better

726
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: than most people in the league, you know, and he

727
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: just squandered it all, just threw it all away. And

728
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: people after a while, they really didn't care how talented

729
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 1: he was. They really didn't care.

730
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 3: You know.

731
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 5: Tom Brady gave him another.

732
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: Chance no one wanted.

733
00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 2: He said, I'll take them, and like the great Tom

734
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 2: bradyon I just I mean, but he's clearly unwell. Okay,

735
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 2: speaking of unwell, I was unwell at the thought that

736
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: the Lakers might lose to the Warriors. And I just

737
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,520
Speaker 2: want to say, our team, our Laker team looked phenomenal.

738
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, yes, yes, we could do a dance

739
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 2: we could do a dance on that. And I have

740
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: Mike Trudell on my show today and I said, Mike,

741
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 2: I said, I'm a little nervous. How durable is a

742
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 2: d Mike yelled at me, he goes enough enough with

743
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: this Ad storyline.

744
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 5: I have been a Lakers.

745
00:37:26,920 --> 00:37:30,800
Speaker 2: Reporter for however many years, better part of fifteen years,

746
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 2: and Ads not getting the respect that he deserves. He

747
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: is defensively the best there is he had. He gave

748
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,320
Speaker 2: Memphis fits, he gave the Warriors fits, and that is

749
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 2: why we won. This durable and he's weak is a

750
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 2: is not true? As a fan like I am, what

751
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 2: do you feel about a d.

752
00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 3: Uh?

753
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,359
Speaker 1: I think Ad has been unfairly characterized as the type

754
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: of player that he is. People I think always looked

755
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 1: at him as kind of like Shock, as this offensive force,

756
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 1: but you know he's more of a defensive force. Even

757
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: at when he was at Kentucky, you know he was

758
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: a defensive phenomenon more than an offense. I think I

759
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: don't think he's as comfortable identity wise offense as he defense.

760
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,640
Speaker 1: And you can tell by how aggressive he is on

761
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,879
Speaker 1: offense when he's in the right frame of mind, he's

762
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: more aggressive, but he's not like that all the time. Defense,

763
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 1: he's always aggressive, Like I think, his identity is more

764
00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: comfortable as a as a defensive stopper. That's why you

765
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: can win with Ad scoring fifteen and getting twenty rebounds.

766
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: He doesn't. People always say AD's got to get thirty

767
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: five points of leagues to win. No, I don't he

768
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: got to get If he's getting four blocks in nineteen rebounds,

769
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:50,919
Speaker 1: I don't care how many points he makes.

770
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 5: You know.

771
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: It's like his defensive presence is his identity. His scoring

772
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: is a bonus round as far as I'm concerned. You know,

773
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: but the Laker don't necessarily win if Ad scores thirty

774
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: five points. That's not necessarily true. With some teams, that's true,

775
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,319
Speaker 1: but not necessarily they it's really the complete game. It's

776
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 1: how much as he's really upsetting the rhythm of that

777
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,319
Speaker 1: other team, whether it's Steph trying to make layups over

778
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: him or whoever. You know, that's to me, is AD's

779
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: biggest value to a champion. We're talking about championship team,

780
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, We're not just talking about what can he

781
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:27,359
Speaker 1: do in the court. Of course, he's capable of going

782
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 1: forty or fifty. We know that, but what is his

783
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: real value? His real value is disrupting that other team

784
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,240
Speaker 1: and being a force in there that the team always

785
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: has to think about an offense. I don't care if AD.

786
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 1: I only care what Ad does rebounding in black shots

787
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: an offense. That's why we got twelve other players. You know,

788
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 1: as far as I'm concerned, No.

789
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 2: I'm in agreement with you. I'm sorry, Like like, go ahead, preach, preach, preach.

790
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 2: I'm coming to the I'm coming to that realization. Okay, okay, okay,

791
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: he was.

792
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 1: Up and down. AD was up and down, and go well,

793
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 1: who won those games? Though? Look at the others debts

794
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,359
Speaker 1: because maybe they lost that one, but the other ones win, win, win,

795
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: So you're saying he's down. But I'm sorry, there's a

796
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: W in that column. That's what you need to be

797
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: looking at.

798
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 2: Lakers take on the Denver Nuggets in the Western Conference Finals.

799
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 2: I believe whatever team advances will be the winner in

800
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 2: the finals. Ultimately, That's what I do believe. I do

801
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 2: believe the way that they the Denver's currently constructed, in

802
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: the way that Miami is well, well, I don't know.

803
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 2: I think that if Denver meets Boston. Boston might give

804
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: them a run, but there's no answer for Yokic. The

805
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 2: only answer that I see for Yokich is someone by

806
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: the name of ad And to your point, they have

807
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: to make some adjustments defensively because he can't just let

808
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 2: Jokic score. Yokic doesn't play defense. He can't just let

809
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 2: him score. So we have to see how this first

810
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 2: series plays out. What do you your predictions for the

811
00:40:58,880 --> 00:40:59,959
Speaker 2: Western Conference final?

812
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: Okay, so this is gonna be a tough series because

813
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: you're right, Joker is no joke, you know right, he

814
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: is no joke. I agree all the accolades people say

815
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: about him, you know, still really don't do justice. How

816
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: hard he is just to stop, you know. To me,

817
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 1: the what really helped us in the bubble. Isn't this

818
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: interesting that we have the same bubble teams right now?

819
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: You know, in Johnny it's kind of cool. But what

820
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: really helped us in that was a couple of their

821
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: players are injured, you know, that type of thing. But

822
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 1: we got the Joker in foul trouble because remember we

823
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 1: had Dwight Howard and we had uh, what's his name?

824
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: I always forget people's name. You know, we had those

825
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: two other big who who could Bay you know, he

826
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: played with the Warriors, played with us, he's in Dallas

827
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: or played some room. I always forget his name or

828
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: played thus for a while. But uh yeah, yeah, but

829
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: when you look at that and go, oh, yeah, how

830
00:41:56,560 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: can I forget his name?

831
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 3: You know?

832
00:41:58,200 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 5: Easy?

833
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: But we have too big right, No, but we we

834
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: got Joker in foul trouble during a lot of that series.

835
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: You know, like I wish we had Mobamba playing right now,

836
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:13,760
Speaker 1: you know, who could get in there and be a body,

837
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, because we need a body on Yokice because

838
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: if Athe is guardian Yoka ad might get in foul

839
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: trouble and that's going to be very difficult for the Lakers,

840
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: you know. So we don't have a size advantage with

841
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 1: them the way we've had in these other series. So

842
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:36,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna be the toughest thing. Also, Denver's uh other

843
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: players are really formidable. You know when you look at

844
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 1: UH players, they have really good Yes, yes, maybe the

845
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: fourth best player in the team at this point, you know,

846
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,839
Speaker 1: so and he can you know, get nasty at anytime. Denver,

847
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 1: It's got a lot of people you got to pay

848
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:07,320
Speaker 1: attention to the Lakers. We have some players like that,

849
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: but ours are a little streakier. I don't know if

850
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 1: we can count on them uh day to day the

851
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: way Denver I think can count on their players day

852
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 1: to day. I think that's the big difference. So can

853
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 1: the Lakers get hot when it matters? Here's when the

854
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 1: Lakers need to get hot? First game in Denver, uh,

855
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 1: the two games in La and then Lebron and Ad

856
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: need to just control the series after that, you know,

857
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 1: even in a loss, they just need to be, you know,

858
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: controlling that series. But that's an the players, those three

859
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: are players. Yeah.

860
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 5: Yeah. First, First, still a game, games, yes, still a game.

861
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 1: Take it.

862
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 5: Steal a game in Denver, like my, you just got

863
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:49,279
Speaker 5: to steal it.

864
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: You gotta take that, take that Diddy style, take it,

865
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,960
Speaker 2: take it, take it, take a ditty style. We take

866
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 2: both at home, and then it goes back to the

867
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 2: one one one format, which will be in our favor.

868
00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,719
Speaker 5: And that's fine. We'll got it, you know what I mean.

869
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: So let me go back to.

870
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: We just need one, You just need one.

871
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: They had k C p Alex Crusoe, Rondo, Dwight Howard,

872
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 2: Jared Dudley, oh, Mark Keith Morris.

873
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,240
Speaker 5: Was that he you referring Danny Green?

874
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: Uh?

875
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 5: PJ. Tucker uh j R.

876
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: Smith, Janice's brother. I can't coasts onto Dion Waiters. Were

877
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: you referring to Kyle Kuzma k CP?

878
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 5: No, who were you referring to?

879
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 3: No?

880
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: No, big man, I don't know.

881
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: Let's see. Let me look big man here. Look I'm

882
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 2: just now I'm back into it. I'm all like, who

883
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:37,520
Speaker 2: who big Man?

884
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 5: Besides?

885
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 2: Besides I did well, I'm just the main roster that

886
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 2: they showed us. Okay, so look we had uh, I'm

887
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 2: talking about the people who played. Clearly they were a

888
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: lot more. We had Quinn, We had Quinn Cook. We

889
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: had Alex Caruso, who was yeah yeah, was injured so

890
00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: he didn't play. Yeah, so he wasn't playing. I'm going

891
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 2: down the list here. We played for Golden State and

892
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 2: he played for the Lakers. Big man, Oh, Javelle McGee,

893
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: Is that who you're referring to?

894
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: Jefel McGee?

895
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:13,479
Speaker 2: Okay, I got to yeah, okay, and even Dennis Shorter

896
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: little self was on there. Okay, Okay. It's a little refresher, good,

897
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: a little refresher for us both now as I wrap

898
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: because you are saying the Lakers will win the series.

899
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: Well, I I cannot predict the Lakers win on this one,

900
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:36,959
Speaker 1: I said, confidently the worst. I can't predict it against Denver. Denver.

901
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 1: Denver's the number one seed.

902
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 5: You know, we did it before, we did it before,

903
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,359
Speaker 5: we did it before.

904
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: But they're better this time out. You know, I would say,

905
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,279
Speaker 1: I said, what the blueprint is the problem is, here's

906
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: the biggest problem caring game five and seven. If it

907
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 1: goes seven games, that is in my life.

908
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,279
Speaker 5: That's not that's not in our favor. If it goes

909
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 5: seven games, in our.

910
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: Favorite's gotta be wasted in that seventh game, he's gonna

911
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: be wasted. Let's be honest about that.

912
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 2: And we're just trying to protect Lebron in his feet

913
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,400
Speaker 2: at this point. That's all we care young.

914
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: Legs, young legs, young legs, as much as possible.

915
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 5: So yeah, hope.

916
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: Look, I put it like this, if we beat Denver rings,

917
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,440
Speaker 1: it's for your ring, for your rain ring.

918
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, all right, but you're not ready to give

919
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,359
Speaker 2: it to You're like me, I'm on the fence. I'm

920
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 2: not ready because I wouldn't be. I can't I wouldn't

921
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: be a realist. That would mean I've watched no basketball,

922
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 2: so I can't do that.

923
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 1: Real first carry we got yeah, real first first.

924
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 4: Every champion and carry champions to be a champion, a

925
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 4: champion and carry champion and Cary Chat be a champion

926
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 4: and carry champion and Cary Chat.

927
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: It's the sports and entertainment can make it work, Harry.

928
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: Champion and carry champion is going to be a champion,

929
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: a champion, the Cary Champion, theout a champion, the Cary Champion.

930
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 3: They care with Chat make it work.

931
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 2: Okay, So speaking of keep it real, I know in

932
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three we announced we as in. You and

933
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: I got together and announced your new TV show that's

934
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 2: coming out lately. Congratulations we announced it together.

935
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: Well, it's not at that point.

936
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,920
Speaker 5: So because I know it's you're it's you're in development.

937
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: And development correct, Yes, So.

938
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,800
Speaker 2: The question is when can we see you back in

939
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 2: TV in that capacity with the writers strike and every

940
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 2: and and and other variables.

941
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,920
Speaker 5: Does it look like this might be pushed to win?

942
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 5: When can I start forecasting?

943
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,279
Speaker 1: I mean I don't know, you know, the business, yeah,

944
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,080
Speaker 1: but things like if your sitcom gets picked up, you

945
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: just don't know. So it's not at that stage where

946
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: it's where it's premature to talk about the show in

947
00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 1: that way at this point, because you know, we haven't

948
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: even shot a pilot that I have several projects that

949
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: are here's the thing. After a strike, they can just

950
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,799
Speaker 1: choose not to do shows that are on the air

951
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,719
Speaker 1: right now and counsel those. There's so much up in

952
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,560
Speaker 1: the air. But to answer the other question, I would

953
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: like to return to television in some form, whether it's

954
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: that show or something else. You know, I do like

955
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: for me, I have a lot of fans out there,

956
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:30,719
Speaker 1: you know, like seeing stuff and want to see me

957
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 1: do more things. I might do something closer to the

958
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,319
Speaker 1: election that's political, maybe in the talk show type of thing,

959
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:41,400
Speaker 1: because I like doing that type of thing. And I

960
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: might do some more live shows out But the people,

961
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: as we say, and I'm always developing behind the scenes,

962
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 1: you know, with different people and that kind of stuff too,

963
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: So always doing the multiple things. But you can't. I

964
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: wish I had better answer to that. You know, you

965
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 1: just can pull over that stuff, and.

966
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 2: That requires an incredible amount of yeah, incredible amount of

967
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: patience that you have and our and in my business

968
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 2: to to to a certain point. But it's like so

969
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 2: frustrating because we have to wait on everything to fall

970
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: a certain way, and it requires you to have other

971
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,520
Speaker 2: Now my business is doing the same requires you to

972
00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 2: have other outlets. But the point being is that I

973
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 2: feel like I and I say this from the bottom

974
00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: of my heart, your humor, your wit, and quite frankly,

975
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 2: just some sensible conversation is missed, especially in the political arena.

976
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,520
Speaker 2: I think as we get ready to see this orange

977
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: face man try to take over again, it would be

978
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 2: nice to have someone who can who can speak truth

979
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: to power and still provide us with a bit of

980
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 2: comedy relief, because if you don't laugh, you'll cry at

981
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 2: the situation.

982
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

983
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:51,319
Speaker 1: Yes, the tangerine d I mean is what I call

984
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: the Yeah, Yes, yes, the orange Julia is caesu do

985
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: you man? Yeah, I agree with that. And you know,

986
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: I'm very fortunate. I have a lot of different levers

987
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: that I can push, you know, and go into. So

988
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 1: that's one of them. That I have a lot of

989
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 1: fans that really like to hear from me. So I'm

990
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: really fortunate in that. And I haven't been doing a

991
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: lot of wig ins of my podcasts have just been

992
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: doing the interviews because things have just been so divisive

993
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: out there. But I am going to start doing more

994
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 1: and speaking out more and some things because I know

995
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: a lot of people want to hear that. I'm actually

996
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:35,160
Speaker 1: doing the class day speech at Harvard next week. You know,

997
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,280
Speaker 1: it's it's like the commencement speech, but this is chosen

998
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: by the students. So that was kind of nice that

999
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: they chose me to be their class Congratulations.

1000
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 2: Congratulations, congratulations mister Harvard.

1001
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,920
Speaker 1: You know some of some of us, some of us

1002
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: go to Dubai. Some of us go, what can we do?

1003
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 5: What can one do? You know, what can one do?

1004
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 2: I forgot the last time we talked, before you give

1005
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:06,160
Speaker 2: over the show, Beyonce had blessed me with Dubai. I'm

1006
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 2: going to I'm going to London to see her in

1007
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks. So I'll keep you posting it too. Yeah, you,

1008
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 2: I'm going to invite you to one of these shows

1009
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 2: so you can have this experience with me, Larry, because

1010
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 2: the reality is, once you do one of these shows,

1011
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:21,279
Speaker 2: you're like, I see why.

1012
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 5: I'm like, you want to be better, Larry. I'm not

1013
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 5: kidding you. The queen.

1014
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,839
Speaker 2: So she started a concert this yeah, it's but yes,

1015
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 2: we've got to step on out of our environment. You

1016
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 2: can't sit in your natural box that you have and

1017
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 2: watch her. You always go to stuff and I ain't

1018
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: so far a new experience. You season ticket holder for

1019
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,560
Speaker 2: the Rams. You got to be able to move out

1020
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: of that location. I'm a hater. I'm jealous because you've

1021
00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: never invited me, and I'm hating. Do you feel that

1022
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 2: hate out of that animosity for no reason at all?

1023
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,280
Speaker 5: Man, I'm always.

1024
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 2: Available for home opener, if needed, friend, if needed, whatever, whatever, Thank.

1025
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 5: You, I'm available Amazon.

1026
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 1: Right, aren't you doing?

1027
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 3: No?

1028
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's Thursday night football. We don't do

1029
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:06,239
Speaker 5: well this year.

1030
00:52:06,280 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: We might do some coordination with Thursday night Football. It's

1031
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 2: much more of a coordinated effort. But I don't want

1032
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 2: to do a while working. I want to be able

1033
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,040
Speaker 2: to throw something back and talk trash.

1034
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 1: Is is ESPN like newtered now?

1035
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 2: No?

1036
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: It's not. I think that's now with no.

1037
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 5: No, what do you mean? I'm sorry? I don't mean

1038
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: to cut you off. I thought you got for me

1039
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 5: to work there. What do you mean newter? Well?

1040
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: No?

1041
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: I remember, well you know you know Jamel famously had

1042
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,320
Speaker 1: a lot of kind of a running with them and

1043
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,759
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff there, you know, seem like they

1044
00:52:37,840 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: have more content on their show talking about these issues.

1045
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: Now it seems a little more straightforward sports. Again, That's

1046
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:46,560
Speaker 1: what it just feels like to me. But there's not

1047
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,359
Speaker 1: as much It doesn't feel like it's there's as much

1048
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: there's you know, when politics are talking about, it's really

1049
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: connected to something that actually happened in sports as opposed

1050
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,440
Speaker 1: to you know, issues or that type of thing.

1051
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 2: You said, is it neutered, Yes, one percent. They have

1052
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 2: a Jammel Hill rule in place, like one percent, there's

1053
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 2: a Jamel Hill rule in place exactly that.

1054
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a social media like no tweeting about politics.

1055
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:11,719
Speaker 3: No.

1056
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 2: And a part of that is is disheartening considering the

1057
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 2: time in which we live. This We're an unprecedented time,

1058
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 2: so I don't believe the old rules can apply. And

1059
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,759
Speaker 2: it to me is essentially saying take away your blackness

1060
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 2: and work like, I can't live in this in this

1061
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 2: country as a person of color and not feel affected

1062
00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 2: by what I see day in and day out. And

1063
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 2: sometimes you can't separate the artists from the art but

1064
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:37,759
Speaker 2: sometimes you have to so you can say what you feel.

1065
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: It just feels like an obligation, Like even if I

1066
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 2: wasn't an anchor, I still would be like, uhh no,

1067
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 2: let's go march, Like how dare how dare you take

1068
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 2: away and marginalize my experience? And unfortunately, I don't think

1069
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 2: that these companies have figured out a way to allow

1070
00:53:55,040 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: that to be. You definitely can't talk about it on GMA.

1071
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,680
Speaker 2: You definitely can't talk about it on today's show.

1072
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 5: So know, they make you.

1073
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 2: They control your hair and what you wear, and how

1074
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,040
Speaker 2: much makeup you wear, how long your lashes are. Like

1075
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:08,960
Speaker 2: it's a very very like cookie cutter environment and they

1076
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,520
Speaker 2: don't want to rock the boat and anything that feels

1077
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:15,799
Speaker 2: edgy is scary to them. You know this better than

1078
00:54:15,840 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 2: I know.

1079
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: This is think.

1080
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: The great Larry Wilmore, thank you for taking it hour.

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Speaker 2: I was only going to do thirty minutes, and I

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Speaker 2: can past. I ran past all your time. Thank you,

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Speaker 2: my love.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you.

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Speaker 1: Okay, thanks so much. It's always so nice to talk

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Speaker 1: to you. I appreciate you. I appreciate you all the time.

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Speaker 1: So I love seeing you out all the time doing

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Speaker 1: what you do.

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Speaker 5: This hustling to hustle, I will text you and tell

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Speaker 5: you Lakers and six one more time. We got to start.

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Speaker 5: We have to start texting each other during these games.

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Speaker 1: We got.

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Speaker 5: We gotta keep it in the family than together. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: we got.

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Speaker 1: If you're tweeting, I'll see your tweets and I'll answer

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Speaker 1: some of that stuff. Like we're tweeting back. Live tweeting

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Speaker 1: be fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Live tweeting is the best. I forget to

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Speaker 2: reply because there's so much hate in the tweet, so

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Speaker 2: in my response, so I just try to.

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Speaker 5: I just try to.

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Speaker 1: I'll defend you.

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Speaker 5: You're like, leave her alone, You're so mean. I can't.

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Speaker 5: I can't even get into it. So I'm like, what's happening.

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Speaker 1: Bring on the Laker hate. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: Bring Larry Wilmore on the podcast today. Thank you for

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Speaker 2: being naked. You can put your clothes back on.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Gang.

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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention this as we wrap up this podcast.

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Speaker 2: We all already know that I am a diehard Laker fan.

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Speaker 2: I did not I did not say something at the

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Speaker 2: top of this podcast that I wanted to. I wanted

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Speaker 2: to really really make sure that we pay attention to

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Speaker 2: greatness and greatness fatigue. I believe that although we know

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Speaker 2: Lebron is great, he does not get his just too.

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Speaker 2: I feel as if people are like, well, he's old.

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Speaker 2: He's old. The man has been great for twenty years.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes the part of being great is just being consistent.

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Speaker 2: The enemy of excellence is a good job. The enemy

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Speaker 2: of excellence is great job. If you do a great job,

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Speaker 2: you're not excellent.

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Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 2: And what you and I often fail to remember is

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Speaker 2: that Lebron is always excellent. The fact that he's able

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Speaker 2: to get his teams teams that were i e. My

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Speaker 2: Lakers two and ten at the beginning of the year

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Speaker 2: with less than a thirty percent chance to make any

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Speaker 2: type of playoffs. He has this team in the Western

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Speaker 2: Conference finals. And while he may not have been the

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Speaker 2: person to make the shots, the team moves as he moves.

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Speaker 2: So I want to make sure that if you know

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Speaker 2: anybody in your life who's consistently excellent, acknowledge them. Just

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Speaker 2: acknowledge them, Just say you know what, You're consistently excellent.

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Speaker 2: You're consistently doing above and beyond. You're consistently better than

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Speaker 2: just great. Because being consistent is the hardest thing you

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Speaker 2: can do in life, in any aspect of your life,

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Speaker 2: and so I think lebron Hell for that matter, I

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Speaker 2: think Beyonce. I think her too, because she is consistently excellent.

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Speaker 5: And when you see.

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Speaker 2: People like that, you know it can be done, and

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Speaker 2: it just should motivate you. It should make you want

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Speaker 2: to be consistent at something, not necessarily singing or dancing

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Speaker 2: or playing basketball, but something Be consistent and be excellent.

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Speaker 2: That's my Ted talk. I will talk to you all

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Speaker 2: next week.

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Speaker 1: Bye,