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Speaker 1: Welcome back. I am Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 1: and uh this is the drive on Steelers Nation Radio. Matt.

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Speaker 1: I get a list here from Mel Kiper, who got

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Speaker 1: a couple of different lists here, guys who helped themselves

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Speaker 1: and guys who hurt themselves. Okay, if this year's combine,

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Speaker 1: so that would look at Mels first, and then we'll

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Speaker 1: go over and look at the list on NFL dot com.

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Speaker 1: H Mel's list here starts with the guys that helped themselves.

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Speaker 1: Topping his list is wide receiver Marvin Mims out of Oklahoma. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know a ton about him. I'll be honest.

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Speaker 1: Some of these um tier two, Tier three receivers I

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Speaker 1: haven't studied as much as I would like. You know,

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Speaker 1: some guys that are potential second rounders, third, fourth more likely.

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Speaker 1: And I think Mems is at the top of that list.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he did really really well in this in

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Speaker 1: the testing, and he looked good. I think he made

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Speaker 1: made himself funny. Uh yeah, average nineteen and a half

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Speaker 1: yards per catch at Oklahoma. Uh yeah, four point three

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Speaker 1: forty was did really well there. Nolan Smith out of Georgia,

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Speaker 1: and I thought it was interesting. Who do we have

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Speaker 1: on Was it Tony Pauline to talk about him as

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Speaker 1: an off ball linebacker? Yeah, A lot of people can

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Speaker 1: compare him to Hassan Reddick. I kind of like that,

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Speaker 1: that idea of moving him off the ball, Yeah, making

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Speaker 1: him a run and chase because he could cover. You

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Speaker 1: can use him as on the edge every once in

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Speaker 1: a while and he would do well there. But he's

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Speaker 1: you know, he's a two hundred thirty eight pound guy,

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Speaker 1: but a four three ninety with a forty one and

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Speaker 1: a half inch vertical jump. Like okay, I'm you know,

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Speaker 1: that's interesting to me. I think I mentioned Reddick and

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Speaker 1: some mistakes were made with him early in his career

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Speaker 1: trying to have him do a lot of different stuff

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Speaker 1: and teams after Arizona figured out just line them up

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Speaker 1: and screaming him off the edge. And I know Smith

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Speaker 1: tested phenomenally well, but Reddick's a better pass rusher than Smith,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I mean, he doesn't have a bull rush.

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Speaker 1: He I don't know that he'll stay in the two

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Speaker 1: forty neighborhood. I think he played under two thirty a lot,

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Speaker 1: And so I know everyone wants to Michael Parsons and

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Speaker 1: that's a wrong example, but you can still make him

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Speaker 1: the Timmins Chad Brown a little of everything guy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and with that kind of athleticism, I mean it's be

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Speaker 1: quite Frantis Ryan Shazier like athleticism? Yeah, exactly, And I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm down with that down Are you down with that

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers potentially? You know, I think if he

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Speaker 1: checks out, because everything you hear about the kid is

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Speaker 1: he's a great leader. You know, the off field stuff

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Speaker 1: is great. You know that that Georgia program has produced

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Speaker 1: some dudes, and you know, everything I've read about him

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Speaker 1: is he's you know, he was an alpha down there. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm in on that. Hum. I mean at thirty two?

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Speaker 1: Are you interested? Oh? Thirty two? I think it's a

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Speaker 1: slam dunk. Yeah, I mean I can do it seventeen Yeah,

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Speaker 1: a little bit more of a projection than It just

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Speaker 1: depends on you know, it depends on what's available. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we got, we get. Somebody asked us on Twitter the

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Speaker 1: other day yesterday, you know, what if the top lineman

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Speaker 1: and the top you know, cornerbacker there, which one do

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Speaker 1: you take? Well, first of all, neither or do you

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Speaker 1: go cornerback or offensive lineman, it's seventeen. I'm like, tell

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Speaker 1: me who's available. That's just don't just give me a position,

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Speaker 1: tell me who's there. Yeah, especially I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: a corner or two or three es and me off

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Speaker 1: the board, you know, you know. Yeah, same thing with

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Speaker 1: the offensive lineman, like you're not gonna pick the litter,

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Speaker 1: You're not picking a fifth overall, Right, Jackson's Smith and Jigba,

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Speaker 1: we have to have a conversation about him. He had

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Speaker 1: this fastest three cone at the combine six point five

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Speaker 1: seven seconds, had this three point three point nine three

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Speaker 1: short shuttle. Um ran well, him in bigger than I

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Speaker 1: thought he would be. Yes, most of these guys you

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Speaker 1: see their sizes, and he was listed at six foot

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Speaker 1: and he came in closer to six one, basically right

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Speaker 1: around two hundred pounds. He was strictly a slot pretty

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Speaker 1: much at Ohio State. I think that's what he is

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Speaker 1: in the pros too. But that people said that about

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Speaker 1: justin Jefferson. They did good point. He has the size

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Speaker 1: to bump outside. Yes, he didn't run a forty, which

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Speaker 1: has to be on purpose because I have to believe it.

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Speaker 1: I have to believe it would be pretty fast. That's

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Speaker 1: the knock on him, though. There's worries that he's going

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Speaker 1: to run well into the four sixes because his with

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's plenty of examples. Michael Thomas like ran

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Speaker 1: was by far the best receiver in drills. His change

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Speaker 1: of direction stuff isn't just the best, but it's elite

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Speaker 1: and rare times. I know the Steelers don't really need

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Speaker 1: a slot receiver, but if things don't go well with

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Speaker 1: the first sixteen picks, this guy would be phenomenal. Here

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Speaker 1: he's my number one receiver in this year's draft. Me too,

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Speaker 1: Me too, And give Picket another guy like you know,

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Speaker 1: just another star that you have under a cost control

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Speaker 1: for five years. It makes some sense, actually maybe six

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Speaker 1: Yeah right right. He caught eighty three point eight percent

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Speaker 1: of the passes thrown his way two years ago. Yeah

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Speaker 1: makes sense to me. I mean, my good eight catches

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Speaker 1: everything like that was a really good Ohio State receiving corps,

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Speaker 1: and he was the best one two years ago. I

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Speaker 1: mean the knocks on the guy are what's his forty time,

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Speaker 1: which I don't really care about as much anymore unless

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Speaker 1: he runs a four to nine, Yeah, badly he's gonna

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Speaker 1: run a four to nine if he If he's doing

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Speaker 1: a short shuttle at six six point five seven seconds,

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Speaker 1: it'll be under four seven for sure. Yeah, he's plenty fat.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if he runs at four to six,

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Speaker 1: you know whatever, He's fine, he's fine, he's fine. I mean,

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Speaker 1: routes are Phenomenal's tapes phenomenal, and all his other drill

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Speaker 1: stuff was great, So he's easily my receiver one. Brian

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Speaker 1: Brise made Mel's list. His official forty times was four

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Speaker 1: point eight six seconds excellent, which is really good. He

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Speaker 1: did that at two hundred and ninety eight pounds. You know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't hear anything bad medically about him, though maybe

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Speaker 1: something will trickle out on that. But I love the

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Speaker 1: kid going into the combine. I might like him even

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Speaker 1: more coming out. Yes, and yes, I mean unless there

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Speaker 1: was medical stuff we don't know about the combine that

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Speaker 1: went wrong. This is a huge, huge win for brissee

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just no doubt about it and has

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Speaker 1: to be in the mix of seventeen and maybe just

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Speaker 1: kind of keep your fingers crossed he's there. Yeah, I've

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Speaker 1: seen people hope, you know what, Oh, maybe he's maybe

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Speaker 1: he's uh, you know, he can get him at thirty two.

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Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. I don't either. He's the

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Speaker 1: other guys did some stuff, but if you're the guys

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Speaker 1: Like side note, the pit dude, the Northwestern dude, and

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Speaker 1: the USC guy. They might be a new position. They

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Speaker 1: might be dedicate like um designated interior pass rushers you

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Speaker 1: for you too. And the Steelers already have one of

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Speaker 1: those kind of dedicated That's that's what Leal is right, right,

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Speaker 1: right right, And I don't think you want multiple of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, now, he can't have undersized guys being Steelers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he can't have a four team of those guys. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: And they're hard to keep on the roster for specialty situations.

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Speaker 1: Mel has stetson Bennett on his big winners list. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think the take on him was he's maybe gif

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Speaker 1: seventh round flyer type dude. I thought he threw the

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Speaker 1: of the other guys, how small they are, he's small.

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Speaker 1: a backup for Cool. I mean he's McCarron coming out

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Speaker 1: But that, you know, is what it is. DJ Turner,

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Speaker 1: the cornerback out of Michigan, posted a four two six forty,

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Speaker 1: which was the fastest at the combine. He's five eleven,

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Speaker 1: one seventy eight. You'd like him to be a little

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Speaker 1: his size. He's probably he's probably closer to one hundred

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's like Banks, that's just ridiculously skinny.

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Speaker 1: he's six one basically, So is he a jack of

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Speaker 1: all trades that you can move around all over? Possibly,

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Speaker 1: just you know, he hasn't really done it. What I

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Speaker 1: do like a little bit better, you know, from him

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Speaker 1: as opposed to the pit dude, is his arms are

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Speaker 1: can at least fight with offensive tackles. Maybe he's more

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Speaker 1: bud Dupre than he is Leale. I think Leale's kind

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Speaker 1: of a better comp for him. But Leal was inside

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Speaker 1: a lot of an m where this guy's kind of

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Speaker 1: a stand up bed rusher, which the traits are phenomenal,

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Speaker 1: But I don't know where i'd take him. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm interested. I'm not bashing the guy. I just don't

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Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the production for him. Uh. You know,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, four quarterback hits, Like okay, I want

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Speaker 1: a game wrecker, you know. Yeah. Now he did line

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Speaker 1: up in the beak apps a little bit more last year,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I don't know is he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to do that. He's gonna be build to wrestle

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Speaker 1: guards at the NFL level and take on double teams. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he's smart for Northwestern and by all the accounts,

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Speaker 1: he's hard working. But we're talking about like his first rounders,

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Speaker 1: Like if you're talking about day two, Yeah, I'll take

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Speaker 1: move over to cornerback Christian Gonzalez number one. Yeah, he

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Speaker 1: somebody else will look at. I mean yeah, and don't

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Speaker 1: Brian Branch didn't run well, but all of his other

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Speaker 1: testing stuff I looked it up. That's good. We're identical

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Speaker 1: to make a Fitzpatrick. Oh really, I didn't do that, Okay,

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Speaker 1: I mean everything. Yeah, yeah, so I'll be safeties and

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Speaker 1: he's just a football player. Sydney Brown we talked about

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Speaker 1: Marco Hellum's out of Alabama, and Rashad Torrance out of Florida. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: long list, and we probably couldn't have fifty other names

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Speaker 1: to talk about that. You know, we're noteworthy from THEE.

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Speaker 1: I just think this is just a deep draft too.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm really liking the day two guys now,

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Speaker 1: maybe even more into fourth fifth round than I expected

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Speaker 1: to as I learned more. Yeah, absolutely, And speaking of that,

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Speaker 1: Matt when we come back in the next segment. We

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Speaker 1: will do our first POSTCM buy Mock Draft on Mock

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