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Speaker 5: and I guess we should get to who's in and

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Speaker 5: who's out, Steve with our I guess there are Bills

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Speaker 5: practice updates presented by Lee commun Lake here at College

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Speaker 5: of Osteopathic Medicine. We know that Dalton Kincaid not gonna

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Speaker 5: play in this game, gonna miss his second straight game

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Speaker 5: with the hamstring injury. Curtis Samuel, with elbow and neck

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Speaker 5: injuries coming out of the Tampa game, is out for

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Speaker 5: this one, as is McCole Hardman, who left last week's

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Speaker 5: game in his Bill's debut with a calf injury and

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Speaker 5: on a short week, not ready to return to the lineup.

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Speaker 5: So here are the interesting things at play here, Steve.

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Speaker 5: We know that the receiving corps is going to look

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Speaker 5: different again based on who's healthy and who is not healthy.

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Speaker 5: So last week, Keon Coleman and Elijah Moore.

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Speaker 3: Where the healthy scratches.

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Speaker 5: Last week with Samuel down, you got to have at

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Speaker 5: least one of those guys up this week, right And

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Speaker 5: obviously there are reports servicing once again that Keon Coleman

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Speaker 5: is going to be a healthy and active tonight. We'll

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Speaker 5: have to wait and see because nothing official is going

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Speaker 5: to come out on that from the team. So if

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Speaker 5: he's down, it almost has to be Elijah Moore up,

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Speaker 5: unless you're elevating Gabe Davis from the practice squad again

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Speaker 5: this week, and I would almost anticipate that happening.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, I think Gab will be there. He

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Speaker 6: had too good a game last week, and I think

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Speaker 6: they clicked with something. I think Gabe quickly, and I'm

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Speaker 6: not saying it was only because of the game last week,

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Speaker 6: but certainly that helped. He proved he's still a good

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Speaker 6: player and can still help them win games, but probably

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Speaker 6: stuff off the field that have helped them gain their

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Speaker 6: trust back in Gabe again. He's probably He's probably earned

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Speaker 6: form or another. So there's no question I think Gabe

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Speaker 6: Davis has to be on the on the roster to night.

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Speaker 6: If Keon sits down, that's fine. Here's what people forget,

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Speaker 6: and it's hard to remember, Brownie. You get something that

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Speaker 6: happens like last week and Keon Coleman gets sat down,

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Speaker 6: every thinks, Okay, this is just a hiccup. He's a

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Speaker 6: But fans, people like us, in the media, radio and media, everybody,

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Speaker 6: they think this is about Keon, And I hate to

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Speaker 6: about Keon. It his problems are his problems. It's it's

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Speaker 6: last week they bench Keon Coleman down. Here's the dynamic

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Speaker 6: that nobody knows about. Gabe Davis goes he's never getting

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Speaker 1: That is a.

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Speaker 6: Watching a guy blow an opportunity tells everybody else in

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Speaker 6: I'm not gonna blow my uh I'm not gonna blow

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Speaker 6: So it's that's one of the things that's to work here.

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Speaker 6: But the injuries are what they are. They've known him

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Speaker 6: there's messaging going on to all these players on an

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Speaker 1: You know, we got to pick it up.

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Speaker 5: And so well, I mean Keon Coleman's on notice. But

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Speaker 5: that has ripple effects, absolutely absolutely, So that's not the

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Speaker 5: only positional hole that may have to be filled due

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Speaker 5: Last week they elevated Kaleki Latu from the practice squad.

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Speaker 5: If you're already elevating Davis, you only have one more

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Speaker 5: He did not look like himself last week and now

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Speaker 5: go without law to this week. There's there's a give

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Speaker 6: And it could also be Listen, we're going back old school.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna Alec Anderson's coming off the bench in third

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Speaker 6: It might be Alec Anderson because of the front of Houston, right,

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Speaker 6: It could be that, right, I think I think that

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Speaker 6: I don't think they're and I don't want to say

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Speaker 6: my gosh, we don't have anybody. There's nine guys who

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Speaker 6: So I don't know that they're that desperate to put

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Speaker 3: That's my point. My opinion.

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Speaker 5: Do you want to put that on his I mean,

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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Uh, that's an issue. And I'm i for Khalil, I

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's a huge matchup that I think the

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Speaker 5: Bills can take advantage of tonight because Jalen Peatree, who's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I agree. I don't even it's not even just Shakir.

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Speaker 6: I feel like you might almost. There's two ways to go. Obviously,

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Speaker 6: when you're attacking a front who's really good, like this

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let's go around the NFL presented by Kalida Health,

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Speaker 3: In the lineup.

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Speaker 5: Steve, all I'm going to say is this, if the

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Speaker 1: That's correct. That's correct.

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Speaker 5: I mean, he it's interesting that Burrow was initially eyeing

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Speaker 6: You're talking about four or five days on top of

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Speaker 3: He's gonna do it. He's gonna do it earlier.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and he's gonna do it this weekend without Jamar Chase,

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Speaker 3: Like come on, man, yeah, Steve, what are we doing?

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Speaker 6: It's it's indefensible, you get I mean that, you know,

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Speaker 6: How many times have we seen a head coach going, well,

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Speaker 6: I get it, I get it.

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Speaker 5: Outside of outside of someone using a racial slur. I

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's as disrespectful as it gets.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, spin on, getting him spin on his is worse

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Speaker 6: So let me say, Mike Tomlin never ceases to disappoint

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Speaker 5: He is absolutely He's always good at striking the right tone.

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Speaker 6: This is the absolute he is in the absolute press

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Speaker 6: There is nobody who's been able to touch that guy

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Speaker 1: No, not after he said it, but I wouldn't.

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Speaker 6: How can the coach get up there and say I

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Speaker 5: You're standing in front of me and you spit on me,

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Speaker 6: That's the way that's That's the way life is, man,

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Speaker 6: That this that Mike Tomlin stuff, and that that stuff

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Speaker 3: Right. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I love that kind of stuff, but I thought the

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Speaker 6: That's spitting on the guys. Spitting on the guy like

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Speaker 6: he did Jamar Chase. It's gonna cost him five hundred

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Speaker 1: Gone.

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Speaker 3: Who knew saliva would cost that much? Yeah? Not not

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Speaker 3: Not a good look.

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Speaker 1: That's how you get.

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Speaker 3: There is other. There is, There is other AFC North News.

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Speaker 5: Ravens quarterback Lamar Jackson has a new injury for the

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Speaker 5: This time it's an ankle injury. Last week, Jackson missed

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Speaker 5: And as we know Steve, he is not thick in stature,

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Speaker 6: He's still pretty big, but yes, you're right, he's he's slender.

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Speaker 1: not quinet.

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Speaker 5: He didn't get last week, so that was good. That's

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Speaker 5: the first game though the whole season.

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Speaker 3: He has not been sacked.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he was getting to sick.

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Speaker 6: Gave up eighteen, right, he's got like twenty now.

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Speaker 3: He's at twenty. Right, so he's over the number.

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Speaker 6: He's over the number, but it's at twice the pace,

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Speaker 6: right because of the halfway point of the season.

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Speaker 3: All right, I see what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I misstated that.

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Speaker 6: But he's getting sacked twice as much as he did

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Speaker 6: last year, as twice as often and a lot of them,

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Speaker 6: and I make the joke that it seems voluntary. Right,

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Speaker 6: He says, all right, I'll take this sack and I'm

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Speaker 6: not gonna, you know, get out of it or throw

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Speaker 6: the ball away, or I'm going to do a two

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Speaker 6: hand chest pass for an interception to make it look

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Speaker 6: even more ridiculous. But and then you look at Lamar,

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Speaker 6: He's getting sacked a ton as well. Those are two

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Speaker 6: guys that are tough to sack. Mahomes is struggling. He's

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Speaker 6: getting what's happening around the league that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 6: it's better to take a sack now, or it's easier

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Speaker 6: to get a sack, or we're giving up sacks different,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: There's something going on.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I think Kansas City situation is a

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Speaker 5: little different because they've had protection issues and injuries at

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Speaker 5: the tackle position. And now I'm thinking about last week's

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Speaker 5: game and Logan Hall did sack Josh. The problem was

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Speaker 5: he dropped his full body weight on Josh and got

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Speaker 5: flagged for rough in the passer and it wiped it out.

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Speaker 6: He didn't get no. It was on a and it

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Speaker 6: was on a complete. It was on an incomplete pass.

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Speaker 6: He got sacked after Josh did it. He laid Josh

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Speaker 6: down after that, after Josh he released the pass. I

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Speaker 6: think that the uh that was it was an incomplete

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Speaker 6: pass that Josh got rid of.

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Speaker 5: Oh right, he got the ball off. That's what that's

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Speaker 5: what you're saying. Yeah, it wasn't a truth, so.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't a real sack, but the same it's the

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Speaker 1: point is well taken. Uh.

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Speaker 6: It seems like it's a symptom of something that's that's

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Speaker 6: out of our ability to perceive. You know, you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean, it's just a statistical symptom of something

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Speaker 6: that's going on inside the league where offenses us.

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Speaker 3: You think it's a league thing.

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Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's a trend, is what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: We gotta I think we gotta look at that a

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Speaker 3: little closer. I do too.

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Speaker 1: But when I see stuff like that, it makes me.

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Speaker 3: Just on the surface, it feels that way.

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Speaker 6: It feels it feels like there's a symptom of a

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Speaker 6: larger decision that's being made league wide, Like all the

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Speaker 6: offensive corners are seeing this trend, so we're gonna do this.

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Speaker 6: And one of the symptoms is we're gonna take a

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Speaker 6: few more sacks than we ever have. It feels like

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Speaker 6: that to me, and I don't know, I can't get

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Speaker 6: the bottom of it. But when you start seeing it

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Speaker 6: like this with different quarterback, especially like Josh and Lamar,

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Speaker 6: I mean, come on, something's you know the because all

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Speaker 6: these teams have these analytics departments that are saying, all right,

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Speaker 6: we're seeing a trend where this and this and this.

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Speaker 6: So in that case, our fourth down go for it

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Speaker 6: is now different than it was last year. We're gonna

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Speaker 6: add another seven and a half yards onto our fourth

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Speaker 6: down go for it.

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Speaker 1: Zone than we had last year. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: All of that stuff is it's so interesting to think about,

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Speaker 6: but it just feels like it's a trend to me.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think a lot of Josh's sacks have come

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Speaker 5: down on Come on, long down in distance too. You know,

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Speaker 5: you think about the Atlanta game. They're living in long

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Speaker 5: down and distance that never helps.

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Speaker 1: Maybe they're being coached.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to take a I'd like to take a

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Speaker 5: closer look at it there.

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe the coach is saying, hey, just take the

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Speaker 6: sack here, you know, in this situation from now on.

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Speaker 5: You know, one guy that's not doing that is Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 5: and he's throwing picks instead. There were like three instances

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Speaker 5: in last week's game against the Rams where he should

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Speaker 5: have just taken a sack and stead he panics, throws

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Speaker 5: the ball and at the end of the night he's got.

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Speaker 6: Four picks and they lose. That's exactly what I'm talking about.

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Speaker 6: That's exactly what I'm talking about. You get into those

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Speaker 6: situations where all these guys are trying to do it,

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Speaker 6: and they all get in those situations because now they're

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Speaker 6: all extending plays off the script, right, and they're all

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Speaker 6: trying to get the third and nineteen or the third

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Speaker 6: and fourteen, and in the at the end of the

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Speaker 6: play call the offensive. Cordner has this word. He says, hey,

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Speaker 6: too long, right, So that means too long to run

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Speaker 6: for it, too long to run for it because it

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Speaker 6: crosses a threshold of when you're saying, you know, you're

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Speaker 6: not gonna try and get this because you're taking we're

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Speaker 6: getting too many hits, and that's the stats say that's

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Speaker 6: when you get hurt.

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Speaker 1: So it's too long.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And Josh might be in some of those decisions

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Speaker 5: tonight with as good a pass rushing union as he's facing.

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Speaker 3: Here this evening.

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Speaker 5: We're up against the break so quickly through the rest

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Speaker 5: of around the NFL. Rogers with the fracture in his

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Speaker 5: left wrist, did not practice yesterday. He said it feels

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Speaker 5: better than it did Sunday. He focused on rehab yesterday.

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Speaker 5: He was gonna try to get back on the field

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Speaker 5: today to see what he can do. And there's an

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Speaker 5: update on Lamar also, he is practiced back practicing today,

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Speaker 5: So there's that. Saints released veteran wide receiver Brandon Cooks.

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Speaker 5: He was the subject of trade rumors at the deadline.

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Speaker 5: He's going to become a free agent if he goes

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Speaker 5: unclaimed on waivers by four o'clock today. And then the

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Speaker 5: Browns signed defensive and Alex right, one of their draft choices,

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Speaker 5: to a three year extension. We're thirty three million dollars.

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Speaker 5: Topic of discussion for you today is pretty simple. What

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Speaker 5: is the key to a Bill's victory tonight over the Texans?

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Speaker 5: Eight oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight, five

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Speaker 5: point fifty two, five point fifty those are the numbers

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Speaker 5: to get.

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Speaker 3: In with us, and we do have open lines for

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Speaker 3: you right now.

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Speaker 5: Gonna take a break, but when we come back, we're

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Speaker 5: joined by senior producer from NFL Films, Greg co Sell.

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Speaker 5: Gonna help us out with some ex'es and o's for

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Speaker 5: tonight's game against the Texans. We do that when we

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Speaker 5: return here on One Bill's Live, presented by to a

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Speaker 3: It's about plo of Bill's.

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Speaker 5: Bring all right back here on One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 5: Steve Tasker and joined now as we are you know

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Speaker 5: usually on Fridays, but with a Thursday night game, we

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Speaker 5: made an exception and so Greg co Sell joins us here.

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Speaker 3: Greg.

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Speaker 5: Interesting game here Tonight's Strength on strength, Bill's a top

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Speaker 5: flight number two offense against the Houston number one defense.

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Speaker 3: In the league.

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Speaker 5: And I have to believe that you don't really feel

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Speaker 5: like giving Houston's defense any extra advantages. But they'll have

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Speaker 5: the edge of the home crowd and the noise and

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Speaker 5: all of that, and Buffalo's offense going on silent count.

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Speaker 5: So looking across that defense, I'm trying to find a

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Speaker 5: matchup advantage and the one that I like is in

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Speaker 5: the slot with Miles Bryant starting in place of Petrie. Sure,

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Speaker 5: I feel like that's a matchup they can attack, you know,

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Speaker 5: if they can scheme the right people on him.

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Speaker 3: You know, in the formation and the look.

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Speaker 5: How has he done in the absence of Petrie?

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Speaker 3: And have other teams gone after it?

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Speaker 2: They really haven't. I mean, and don't forget. They're not

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Speaker 2: a high, high percentage man coverage defense. And you know,

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Speaker 2: obviously since Petrie's gone out and since Stewart went out

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Speaker 2: to safety, now they're playing Jalen Mills at safety in

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Speaker 2: their nickel, and Jalen Mills has been around the block

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Speaker 2: a few times, and while he's not the best athlete

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Speaker 2: on the field, he's a smart, savvy player. So they

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Speaker 2: played really good team defense. It's not heavy man. Sure,

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Speaker 2: they will play man, and in those situations, you obviously

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Speaker 2: want to be able to take advantage of Bryant, certainly

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Speaker 2: with Shakir who can beat him. But this is a defense.

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Speaker 2: And you know, Brownie, you've been studying them, you're doing

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Speaker 2: the game tonight. They're really good at all three levels.

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Speaker 2: They've got good players, and if you've noticed watching their defense,

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Speaker 2: they've started to play E. J. Speed a lot more

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Speaker 2: at linebacker over too Toe because he's just a better athlete.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he gives them a lot more juice at

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Speaker 2: the linebacker position. And they've got two really good corners

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Speaker 2: and Stingley and Lassiter, and they don't match up. Stingley

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Speaker 2: plays left corner, Lassiter plays right corner, and the Bills

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Speaker 2: don't really have that receiver you probably match up to anyway,

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Speaker 2: but that's the way they play. Bullock is a really

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Speaker 2: good post safety, and now they're using him more, even

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Speaker 2: down in the box a little more. He's become a

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Speaker 2: little more physical. And I'm not sitting here saying they

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Speaker 2: can't move the ball, believe me. I'm just saying they're

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Speaker 2: number one for a reason. They are a really good defense.

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Speaker 2: We know they have two big time edge players in

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Speaker 2: Anderson and Hunter. Anderson is a top three speed to

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Speaker 2: power pass rusher in the league. He'll predominantly go against

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Speaker 2: Spencer Brown. We'll play on the other side here and there,

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Speaker 2: but mostly he'll line up against Spencer Brown. Hunters a

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Speaker 2: little different player. He's a little more flexible, a little

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Speaker 2: more gunn be like just a good defense. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you have to be on top of your game in

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Speaker 2: terms of execution. You know, we know what we saw

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Speaker 2: last week was your classic Josh Allen experience. He can

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Speaker 2: do that any game, but I think in this game

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Speaker 2: there's going to have to be a sense too of

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Speaker 2: let's take the plays within structure that are there and

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Speaker 2: let's move the football. If it's a six yard gain

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Speaker 2: on first down, let's take the six yard gain and

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Speaker 2: make it second and four. We don't need we don't

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Speaker 2: have to chase plays.

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Speaker 6: That's what I hate to say it like this, but

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Speaker 6: that's what Bills fans have been absolutely banging their heads

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Speaker 6: against the wall because of Because the Bills have been willing,

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Speaker 6: so willing to do that in the first month and

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Speaker 6: a half of the season. And you know, they were

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Speaker 6: scoring thirty one against the Jets, they were scoring thirty

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Speaker 6: against you know, they scored forty one against Baltimore. But

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Speaker 6: they were always willing to run the ball first at

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Speaker 6: the number one rushing offense, all of that. But it

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Speaker 6: was that's what had Bills fans going because you never

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Speaker 6: saw them open it up, right, but in a game

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Speaker 6: like this, ball protection, possession and first downs is really

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Speaker 6: what's going to do it.

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Speaker 2: Last week's game to me and Brownie, you did the game,

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Speaker 2: so you were in the stadium feeling it, you know,

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Speaker 2: but you don't really want to get stuck with you know,

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Speaker 2: Josh making that interception like he did early in the

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Speaker 2: game this week. You know last week where it's in,

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Speaker 2: you know, his own territory where you know, a fourth

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Speaker 2: and two when he throws the pick. You know you

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Speaker 2: don't want to this game again. You never know how

656
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 2: a game plays out. I'm not gonna see what're saying.

657
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 2: I know how the game is going to play out.

658
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:06,960
Speaker 2: Nor am I saying that they should not throw the

659
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: ball at all. But I think this has to be

660
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,719
Speaker 2: a sense I agree with Steve to some extent. You

661
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: can't rely on the Shaver's' touchdowns. An unbelievable play on

662
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 2: a ball that should have been thrown to gave Davis

663
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 2: for a first down. As you guys know, you know

664
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 2: you can't rely on those kinds of plays. You know,

665
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: can Jocks make them more than most? And does he yes?

666
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 2: But you can't go into a game saying those are

667
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 2: the kinds of plays that have to happen, or we

668
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 2: can't win the game because those plays don't always happen.

669
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 5: Right, And all you have to do is think back

670
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 5: to two of the last three road games and they

671
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 5: were trying to live that way and lost by and

672
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 5: lost by ten points and lost by seventeen points. So

673
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 5: that is not a way to be consistently successful in

674
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Speaker 5: the NFL. So the efficiency model would seem to be

675
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,800
Speaker 5: the approach. Mike question to you is what about using

676
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 5: some of what worked well in the Kansas City game

677
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago when they got the ball out

678
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 5: of Josh's hand quickly and work the passing game that way.

679
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 5: Would that be an approach that could work tonight.

680
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,319
Speaker 2: Yes, because I think we know that Josh at any time,

681
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: depending on how a play shape shakes out, can be

682
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 2: Josh Allen. We know that. You know he's the most

683
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,399
Speaker 2: gifted physically gifted quarterback in the league. We know that.

684
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: But I think you have to take the throws that

685
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 2: are there because this is a really good defense. They

686
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: don't give up a ton of big plays. You can't

687
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:37,040
Speaker 2: go into this game thinking, you know what, if we

688
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: don't hit ten explosives, we can't win. I think you

689
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: got to take the throws that are there. Does James

690
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 2: Cook have to run for one sixty?

691
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Speaker 7: No?

692
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 2: But I think there has to be some sustaining element

693
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: and the game will dictate whether he gets, you know,

694
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 2: fourteen carries or twenty two carries. We don't know how

695
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 2: the game is going to play out, but I think

696
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 2: that a productive run game needs to be part of

697
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 2: your offense. I don't think you can go into this

698
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 2: game with the idea that Josh is going to drop

699
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 2: back forty five times by choice. I don't think you

700
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: can't think that way against this defense in that stadium,

701
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 2: you know, So, I think you have to think a

702
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 2: little more in terms of sustainability. And then if the

703
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 2: plays present themselves, we know Josh can make them, but

704
00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: you can't go hunting for those plays.

705
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 6: Right And when you get into what we've got into

706
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 6: the thought process of what the roster's going to look

707
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,919
Speaker 6: like tonight because of the injuries. Shakir has been out

708
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 6: of practice all week, but for personal reasons, the good

709
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 6: kind he had him and his wife had a baby,

710
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 6: that kind of stuff. Plus he's been nursing some rib injuries.

711
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 6: You've got other guys up and down out of the

712
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 6: lineup Condrington the return game. You know, Mkole Hardman is

713
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 6: now out of the lineup because of you know, hamstring

714
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 6: injury that happened last week. How do you think the

715
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 6: Bills formulate if you were going to go exaggerate the

716
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 6: roster for what you think they have to do tonight

717
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,160
Speaker 6: to win. Do you go do you elevate another tight

718
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 6: end and the sixth offensive lineman you know, and go

719
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,720
Speaker 6: heavy or do you go sure kind of five wide roster.

720
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's a great question. I mean, Hawes and Knox

721
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: are healthy, right, they're playing tonight.

722
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: H Yeah, they're fine.

723
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, I may be nuts,

724
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 2: but I actually think Hawes has a little more to

725
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,440
Speaker 2: him as a receiver as he developed. I'm not suggesting

726
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 2: he's going to become, you know, a top five receiving

727
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 2: tight end in the league, but you know, I think

728
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 2: that if you want to go a little heavy, I

729
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 2: would not take an eligible receiver off the field tonight.

730
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, if it's goal line or if it's

731
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 2: you know, third and one different, but I'm talking about

732
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 2: in the general Steve flow of the game. I don't

733
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 2: think I would take an eligible off the field because

734
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 2: if you put Anderson out there, you know you're not

735
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 2: throwing the ball to him. He's not running routes. I

736
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 2: think Hawes can do the same thing in the run

737
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: game for the most part. Then he does give you

738
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 2: an eligible receiver, and I think there's a little more

739
00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,160
Speaker 2: there as he's developing that that's there in the receiving game.

740
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: So I wouldn't go that route. That's just my opinion.

741
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 2: You know, they may see it differently, and I guess

742
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: we'll find out in a little while. But I would

743
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 2: not make this a heavy game because they're really good

744
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 2: up front. It's not just the two ends. They're really

745
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: good inside with big people who are good and move well.

746
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: You know, Rankins has still has a lot of juice. Mariotta.

747
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 2: It seems like every year he's with another team, although

748
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,439
Speaker 2: he's been with Houston for a couple of years now,

749
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 2: and wherever he goes, he plays really well. And I

750
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 2: always wonder what he's always with another team. But he's

751
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 2: a really good player. And then the other guy, uh,

752
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: I'm forgetting his name begins with a T.

753
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: The other d tackle Tim Settle.

754
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: No, no, not on on Buffalo. He's a really good

755
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:49,399
Speaker 2: player too. By the way. Yeah, So, I mean, you're

756
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: gonna have to run to some degree, but I wouldn't

757
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: make this Steve a A. Let's line up and try to

758
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: play power football as my foundation, you know, I I

759
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:58,479
Speaker 2: don't think that's gonna work.

760
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 5: Let's let's flip it around to the defensive side, where

761
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,760
Speaker 5: it looks like the Bills are gonna get Shack Thompson

762
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: back in the lineup. At the second level, we know

763
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 5: that the Bills are playing more base defense than maybe

764
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 5: they have played percentage wise in the last five years.

765
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 5: They know it helps their run defense, which needs help.

766
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 5: I think we would all agree with that. So maybe

767
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:28,919
Speaker 5: maybe shape for us what Buffalo's run front can do,

768
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 5: especially in base on obvious rundowns, to neutralize Woody marks

769
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:35,439
Speaker 5: and their run game.

770
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then they're I mean they're not a heavy, heavy,

771
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,359
Speaker 2: you know, twelve personnel team. I mean, in fact, right,

772
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,800
Speaker 2: they don't play. They don't play a ton of twelve personnel.

773
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: They line up predominantly in eleven personnel. But you can

774
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: still obviously run out of eleven personnel. I think they're

775
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 2: fifth or six in the league, Brownie, as you probably

776
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: know from doing your you know, study of the game.

777
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 2: I think they're fifth or six in the league in

778
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: terms of percentage of eleven personnel. But they have not

779
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 2: had a great run game. But Marx has a little jews.

780
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 2: Chubb is never unfortunately because he was so great, he's

781
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: never seemingly gotten back to what he was before that

782
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 2: really tragic injury. So, you know, and I think their

783
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: old line is just okay. I don't think it's it's

784
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,320
Speaker 2: a really good old line by any stretch of the imagination.

785
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 2: I probably based on you know, watching as many teams

786
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: as I do, I'd say it's in the average category.

787
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 2: I think that's an area that the Bills defense has

788
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 2: to win. Their D line has to be the better

789
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: unit than the Texans OL line. What that means who

790
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 2: can say the way a game plays out. I'm not

791
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 2: suggesting that they're going to hold him to ten yards

792
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 2: rushing or sack you know, Mills six times, but I

793
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: think they have to be in control of that of

794
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: that unit matchup. The question becomes in the past game

795
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: because they've got they've got good receivers. Nico Collins is

796
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: a true boundary X. He lines up I think the

797
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: second or third most times in the league is the

798
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 2: bat as a boundary AC receiver, the single receiver to

799
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: the short side of the field. He is a tough

800
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 2: guy to defend because he's big and he can run.

801
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 2: He's a very difficult guy to defend. And then they've

802
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 2: got these two, you know, young rookies in Higgins I

803
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 2: loved coming out of Iowa State, and Hutchinson's turned out

804
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: to be kind of that almost like physical wide receiver

805
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 2: who makes tough catches and does block in the run game.

806
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 2: Actually they use him that way, so you know, and Mills,

807
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 2: as you know Steve was saying before we went on

808
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 2: the air, Mills is not just your typical backup that

809
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: you're putting out there and hoping he doesn't screw up.

810
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 2: I mean he he's thrown I think more than forty

811
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: balls in each of the last two starts, and he

812
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,160
Speaker 2: can throw it now. I mean, you're dealing with a

813
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: kid that was the number one recruited quarterback in the

814
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 2: country coming out of high school, and the SEC stayed

815
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: away from him because he's from Atlanta, because he made

816
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 2: it clear he was going to Stanford. But this kid

817
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: is not you know, He's not just a guy that

818
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: you put out there as a backup. He can throw

819
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 2: the football.

820
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 6: Last one great, real quick. Why has Houston struggled to

821
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 6: score points? I mean, they've got one skin of thirty

822
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 6: six and one against forty four. But everything else is

823
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 6: they struggle to score touchdowns.

824
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 2: Why they struggle to score They don't run the ball

825
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 2: well at all in the red zone. You know, they

826
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 2: struggle really a lot, they are, and I think that's

827
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: a big factor. It's hard.

828
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,359
Speaker 7: You know.

829
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 2: The other thing, which I'm not a fan of. It's funny.

830
00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,319
Speaker 2: I hear Ben Johnson talking about this, the coach of

831
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: the Bears, and I agree with them one thousand percent.

832
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 2: But they try to do this because their receivers are big.

833
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of fifty to fifty balls. I'm

834
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: just I'd rather see Ski scheme addicts in the red

835
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 2: zone and they throw a lot of fifty to fifty balls,

836
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 2: and you know, to me, I know, you know, Collins

837
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,439
Speaker 2: is great, Pagans is a big guy. But I don't

838
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: think that's the best way to approach the red zone

839
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 2: passing game. But the bottom line is they don't run

840
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 2: the ball very well. And when you start getting into

841
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 2: a condensed field and you can't run the ball, it's

842
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: a problem.

843
00:41:48,239 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, And surprisingly that Texans defense, even though they've given

844
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 5: up the fewest possessions in the red zone twenty eighth

845
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 5: in red zone defense, fifteen of twenty three possessions have

846
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 5: gone for touchdowns. Again, somebody explained that one to me. Yeah,

847
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 5: you got any theories, Greg, No.

848
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 1: I do not.

849
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: But the way I see this game, and I know

850
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: we got to go, But the way I see this

851
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: game is I hope the Bills can at least generate

852
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 2: some offense early because I think if you start getting

853
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 2: into this game, you know, mid late second quarter, even

854
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: into the third quarter, and it has the feel of

855
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 2: like a really close game that's not high scoring, then

856
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,520
Speaker 2: I think you start to it just starts to have

857
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,480
Speaker 2: a bad feel to it. Brown, You've got enough games

858
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: to know exactly.

859
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 3: Houston nothing.

860
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not saying they're gonna go hit seventeen nothing

861
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,719
Speaker 2: in the first quarter, but you know, I think you

862
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: want to have some success early and feel like you're

863
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 2: you know, you're moving the ball up and down the field.

864
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. Thanks Greg, as always for the insight.

865
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Speaker 3: We appreciate it. That's great.

866
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Speaker 5: week's question comes from Michelle who asked Steve, how beneficial

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Speaker 5: was it for you and the special teams unit to

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00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 5: play for a head coach that started as a special

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Speaker 5: teams coach.

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Speaker 6: It's very beneficial, I would say. At the time when

891
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,200
Speaker 6: Marv got the job in Buffalo, not every team in

892
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Speaker 6: the National Football League had a special teams coordinator. The

893
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Speaker 6: Bills did not. In the staff that Marv took over

894
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 6: in nineteen eighty six. Midway through the season, they didn't

895
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Speaker 6: have a special teams coordinator. Not every team did. And

896
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Speaker 6: that's you know, that's the difference in you know, being

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Speaker 6: at the cutting edge of a trend in the NFL

898
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Speaker 6: and not be and being behind having a head coach

899
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Speaker 6: who believed in that and you know, had it work

900
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Speaker 6: out that we proved it on the field a number

901
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Speaker 6: of times, you know, game after game, week after week,

902
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Speaker 6: a year over year that being good, in fact, being

903
00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:03,959
Speaker 6: really good on special teams won games. And it set

904
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Speaker 6: the trend where everybody had to match what we did.

905
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Speaker 6: Particularly when we got really good and we're going to

906
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 6: the Super Bowl every year, teams looked at the Bills

907
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Speaker 6: as a roster blueprint. Where do they what do we emphasize,

908
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 6: you know, how many guys were committed to this. How

909
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Speaker 6: many guys were committed to that, and special teams was

910
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Speaker 6: a big part of that. And Marv, and I've said

911
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Speaker 6: it before, in the eleven and a half years I

912
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 6: played for the Buffalo Bills, Marv Levy sat in the

913
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Speaker 6: front seat of every single special team the front row

914
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Speaker 6: of every special teams meeting I was at. He was

915
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Speaker 6: in the room, sitting right beside the projector, and the

916
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Speaker 6: special Bruce de Haven was in the front of the room.

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Speaker 6: So when you're sitting in a position finger quotes position meeting,

918
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Speaker 6: which was you know, field goal, field goal, defense, punt,

919
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Speaker 6: punt return, kickoff, kickoff return, and the head coach was

920
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Speaker 6: in there on the front right, So listening it illustrated

921
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Speaker 6: how important that was to the franchise and how importantly

922
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Speaker 6: he thought it was. On game day, it made a difference.

923
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Speaker 6: And I remember before the nineteen eighty nine season when

924
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Speaker 6: we had gone twelve and four in nineteen eighty eight,

925
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Speaker 6: gone to the AFC Championship and were really good clicking

926
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Speaker 6: and we got the in the offseason and preseason of

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Speaker 6: nineteen eighty nine, the Miami Dolphins and Don Shula, they're

928
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Speaker 6: all time great head coach, the all time winning is

929
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Speaker 6: head coach in the NFL had told the media in

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Speaker 6: Miami that we're making different roster decisions this year because

931
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Speaker 6: we have to get better to compete with the Bills

932
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Speaker 6: on special teams. And I don't know if he said

933
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Speaker 6: it that blatantly, but the thought was that's why they

934
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Speaker 6: had to do it, because we were out gunning them

935
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Speaker 6: on special teams, and they were making roster decisions based

936
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Speaker 6: on our guys on our team, Mark Pike, me, you know,

937
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Speaker 6: James Williams up. We had a ton of guys on teams,

938
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Speaker 6: Chris Hale, Carwell Gardner, We had some guys on our

939
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Speaker 6: special teams that they couldn't contend with unless they made

940
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Speaker 6: different roster decisions, which meant they would keep a worse

941
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Speaker 6: linebacker in the down and distance. But he was a

942
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Speaker 6: better special teams player that Tikipo tight end that could

943
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Speaker 6: play special teams and not necessarily catch Dan Marino's passes.

944
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Speaker 6: Well enough, you know, they made different decisions in their

945
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Speaker 6: roster that I thought was profound in Marv's effect on

946
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Speaker 6: the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: There you go, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Pretty cool. I didn't know that story. That's really neat. Yeah,

949
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Speaker 3: playing you had to feel that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's the ultimate sign of respect right there

951
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 5: from a division of the moment and a Hall of

952
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Speaker 5: Fame head coach, and that's basically him saying we're behind,

953
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Speaker 5: we got to catch up.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and we so we go think about it though

955
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Speaker 6: too back in the day, So that happened those That

956
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 6: was the year we came in and the opening game

957
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Speaker 6: of the season for us was in Miami and that

958
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Speaker 6: was the Jim Kelly dive across the goal line at

959
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Speaker 6: the two seconds We beat him on the year when

960
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 6: they said they're not gonna work.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is it.

962
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Speaker 6: We're not gonna get swept by the Bills again, right,

963
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Speaker 6: and we beat him on that play.

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Speaker 3: Man.

965
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Speaker 6: That was a gut punch for Don Shula and that

966
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Speaker 6: crew when we beat him on opening day down there

967
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Speaker 6: with that play, it was a gut punch and and

968
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Speaker 6: that you know, set us up to go ahead and

969
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Speaker 6: get into the wildcard round of the playoffs that year.

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Speaker 6: That was the you know, we exited early from the

971
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Speaker 6: playoffs as a bickering Bills year. So yeah, but that

972
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 6: opening game was was awesome and so we knew it

973
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Speaker 6: was and it was it was a heavyweight fight.

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Speaker 3: So that has excuse me, mister tasker.

975
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Speaker 5: We're up against the breaks, so we have to step

976
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Speaker 5: aside again when we come back. Hour number two begins

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Speaker 5: with ESPN Texans reporter DJ biena me. He's gonna join

978
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Speaker 5: us and give us the lowdown on Davis Mills making

979
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Speaker 5: his third straight start. What to make of this rookie

980
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Speaker 5: running back Woody Marks and that number one rank defense?

981
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Speaker 5: DJ Bienime joins us next here on One Bill's Live

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Speaker 5: pre presented by KLADA Health.

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Speaker 3: It's Buffalo Bill's right.

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Speaker 1: This the one Bills Live presented by called LIGHTA help.

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Speaker 5: All right now?

986
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Speaker 3: Number two years.

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00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 5: Have text reporter NMA joining us here and giving us

988
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Speaker 5: some time on game day. We appreciate it, dj uh

989
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Speaker 5: first one out of.

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Speaker 3: The shoot here. Uh.

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Speaker 5: We know the defense is extraordinarily good. They do an

992
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,799
Speaker 5: excellent job of marrying the rush with the coverage on

993
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Speaker 5: the back end. And the other interesting thing is we've

994
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Speaker 5: seen more of EJ. Speed in the lineup of late.

995
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 3: In favor of Henry too too.

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00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 5: Are they just looking to get more speed on the

997
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Speaker 5: field for lack of a pun there and not part

998
00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:42,120
Speaker 5: in the pun? But what do we make of that

999
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Speaker 5: lineup change of late.

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Speaker 8: I would say a lot of it is because Jalen

1001
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 8: Peach has been out the last three and some change weeks, right,

1002
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Speaker 8: because you know, some of the game against the Broncos

1003
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Speaker 8: and then obviously the last two games with the concussion.

1004
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Speaker 8: So from more to four and three down linebacker situation,

1005
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Speaker 8: especially with M J. Stewart being out, so they just

1006
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Speaker 8: kind of kind of mix and match.

1007
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Speaker 7: But again E J.

1008
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Speaker 8: Speed is more of a veteran kind of I won't

1009
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Speaker 8: say you understand the scheme better. I would have said

1010
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Speaker 8: that Henry has been in this team a little bit longer,

1011
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 8: but he's a veteran, so he's been around the block,

1012
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:14,879
Speaker 8: so he just knows how to be in the right

1013
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,439
Speaker 8: spots more often and make tackles more consistently than Harry

1014
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Speaker 8: to Toe can at times.

1015
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Speaker 6: What do you look for from the you know, Houston

1016
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 6: defense tonight. I mean, certainly their edge rushers are elite.

1017
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 6: They've got great guys at all three levels. What do

1018
00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 6: you think they see in the Bills offense that that

1019
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 6: they can take advantage of, you know, play into.

1020
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Speaker 7: I would say, trying to make jobs hold the ball.

1021
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 8: This is one of the best defenses in the league

1022
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Speaker 8: when quarterbacks have hold the ball for all four seconds,

1023
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 8: I think there's been twenty actually probably win more. It's

1024
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Speaker 8: probably like thirty six thirty seven instances when the quarterbacks

1025
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Speaker 8: held the ball for four seconds. They've allowed only four

1026
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 8: completions on twenty two attempts, along with twenty one sacks

1027
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Speaker 8: the quarterbacks and the stats, so basically being able to

1028
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Speaker 8: force the quarterback to hold the ball and then trying

1029
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Speaker 8: to turn into scramble mode and things.

1030
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Speaker 7: Of that nature.

1031
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 8: Even though when I asked me to go about that

1032
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 8: earlier this week, the Miko said that it's not backyard

1033
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 8: football with the Bills. It's very clear that their plays

1034
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 8: have scrambled components built into it, so it's basically have

1035
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Speaker 8: to cover two plays, which was actually very interesting to hear.

1036
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Speaker 8: I've never you know, I've never heard a quarter coach

1037
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Speaker 8: allude to that, which just kind of speaks to the

1038
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Speaker 8: good coaching that the Texans have, but also good coaching

1039
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Speaker 8: that the Bills have to already kind of have that

1040
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 8: in place, so it's just not backyard football and that

1041
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:38,480
Speaker 8: and that retrospect. But as I said, you're trying to

1042
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 8: make Josh hold the ball and then try to you know,

1043
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Speaker 8: let the DB's new plays. I'm very interested to see

1044
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 8: how it unfold because the texts run a lot of

1045
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 8: match coverages where there's one turns into man, which could

1046
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,319
Speaker 8: create some wrestlings for Josh to run through. So I'm

1047
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,040
Speaker 8: curious to see what that balance is. Are they going to

1048
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,040
Speaker 8: go more static, you know, cover three, cover four at

1049
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 8: times versus going match so then Nick can have eyes

1050
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Speaker 8: on Josh or will they just trust that their D

1051
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:08,439
Speaker 8: line can get to Josh once they make him hold

1052
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:08,759
Speaker 8: the ball.

1053
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

1054
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,880
Speaker 5: I know they're also a top five run defense, but

1055
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 5: have any running backs had success against them through the

1056
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 5: course of this season, and if so, what kind of

1057
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:23,879
Speaker 5: worked run scheme wise? I mean attacking the edges or

1058
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 5: just coming straight down hill, because I don't know if

1059
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 5: I want to come straight down hill on al Shire.

1060
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 8: I would say that the best run run games that

1061
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 8: have worked the traps.

1062
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Speaker 7: Draws, things that.

1063
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Speaker 8: Allow you to use the D line trying to get

1064
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Speaker 8: knocked back and rushing up field against them.

1065
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Speaker 7: Those are some of the players that have worked.

1066
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Speaker 8: Obviously, I would say trying to stay between the A

1067
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Speaker 8: and B gap, and that the Detagles are I think

1068
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Speaker 8: some of them are good players.

1069
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Speaker 7: Right. But that's where if you had to run at

1070
00:53:58,000 --> 00:53:59,839
Speaker 7: a certain spot, that's the spot you want to run

1071
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Speaker 7: at in that area to.

1072
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Speaker 8: Get into the edge. It isn't necessarily because Will is

1073
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Speaker 8: really good at setting the edge. Daniel is really good

1074
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Speaker 8: at setting the edge. So and another thing, you know

1075
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Speaker 8: when they rotate a lot.

1076
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Speaker 7: On the d line.

1077
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Speaker 8: So when you see Will and then Will and daniil

1078
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Speaker 8: out because they do rotate a decent amount and you

1079
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,440
Speaker 8: kind of got the backups in. That's when you really

1080
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Speaker 8: got to take advantage of that from a running from

1081
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Speaker 8: a running standpoint, because then you can have more success,

1082
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Speaker 8: not saying like the obviously there's a drop off with

1083
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Speaker 8: the backups versus two Pro Bowl edge guys. So that's

1084
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Speaker 8: what he can kind of be like a cotton mouse game.

1085
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Speaker 8: But you know, got to be able to get into

1086
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Speaker 8: thirty and fives, third and fourths, thirty and six. Is

1087
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Speaker 8: if you're in thirty and eight, thirty nine, thirty ten,

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Speaker 8: those are basically punts punt situation.

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Speaker 6: How much they've got to have a lot of confidence

1090
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 6: with Davis Mills in there there two and zero with

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00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 6: him in the lineup, they've won five out of the

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00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 6: last seven that did get off to an incredibly slow

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00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 6: start this season, but they've overcome that back in the

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00:54:58,000 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 6: playoff race.

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Speaker 1: Obviously.

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Speaker 6: You know, how much confidence do you think they have

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00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 6: in Davis Mills And how has their offense had to

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00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,839
Speaker 6: change drastically with him. It doesn't seem like it has.

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00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 8: No, it doesn't change drastically. Yeah, it's under confidence. You know,

1100
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 8: this is in the first time they've been in this

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00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 8: situation where CJ's been out twenty twenty three, they're in

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00:55:18,239 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 8: a similar situation. They're able to get a couple of

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00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 8: wins or get a win in his two game absence

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00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,120
Speaker 8: this year has been you know, gone to and oh,

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00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 8: so Davis has shown that he's very capable, can make

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00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 8: a lot of the.

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00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 7: Throws in key situations.

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00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:33,560
Speaker 8: They're gonna be committed to running the ball to try

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00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 8: to keep it at thirty manageables because they know if

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00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 8: it's thirty long, whether CJ or Davis is gonna it's

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00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,480
Speaker 8: gonna basically a punt majority of the time.

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Speaker 7: So they have a lot of confidence in him.

1113
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,879
Speaker 8: As long as they can run the ball effectively, they'll

1114
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,399
Speaker 8: keep themselves and keep Davis in thirty and threes, third

1115
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,480
Speaker 8: and fours. Then they'll be okay because they haven't really

1116
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:56,319
Speaker 8: had to change much offensively, It's basically still been the same,

1117
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 8: a lot of quick hitting plays, thick concepts, slam concept

1118
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 8: you do, some play action stuff, a post over the top,

1119
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 8: maybe an overall, maybe a post curl.

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00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 7: So you know, they can just keep it to.

1121
00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 8: You know, they can just keep them out of the technically,

1122
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 8: stay out of third and longs like third and sevens

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00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 8: and longer.

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00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:18,160
Speaker 7: They'll be in a good spot.

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Speaker 8: But if they're in consistently in thirty and eights, they

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00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,200
Speaker 8: won't they won't fare too well.

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00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,239
Speaker 5: I know that, you know, Davis Mills will throw it

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00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 5: to just about anybody. But it's interesting and I understand this.

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00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 5: You know, Nico is, you know, you're alpha male in

1130
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 5: the receiving corps. But thirty six targets in the last

1131
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 5: three weeks, thirty three of those have come from Davis Mills.

1132
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 5: Arm has it has it looked that slanted in terms

1133
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 5: of targeting Nico or or has there been a more

1134
00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:51,399
Speaker 5: democratic spreading of the football around in the passing game.

1135
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 8: I would say earlier in the year was more spreading around.

1136
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 8: Ceja obviously wants to get it to Nico, but he's

1137
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 8: nothing necessarily going to force it to Nico. I think

1138
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 8: Davis has been more of like, I'm gonna just try

1139
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 8: to sometime just force that I gains. The Jaguars do

1140
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 8: it fifteen times, was seven of them, but he threw

1141
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,400
Speaker 8: it to him fifteen times.

1142
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 7: But I would say the last time.

1143
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,880
Speaker 8: Nico and CJ played together full game was against the Broncos,

1144
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 8: and CJ did throw it to him ten times before

1145
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 8: he got concussed.

1146
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I was just saying that Davis in the

1147
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 5: last two plus starts, two plus games, he's thrown it

1148
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 5: to him thirty three times.

1149
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,520
Speaker 3: That's a lot of targets from your backup, Yeah.

1150
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 8: Because I mean, I think they know that for the

1151
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 8: offense to work, they that Nico has to be a

1152
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 8: big part of it. And like they don't necessarily have

1153
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 8: a situation where if Nico doesn't eat then someone else

1154
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:41,480
Speaker 8: can kind of feed.

1155
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 7: Off of that and take advantage of that.

1156
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 9: Like they're not like the Eagles, where you know, you

1157
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 9: got two number one receivers, or like Miami Tyrek and Waldo,

1158
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 9: or the Buffalo when they had Stefan and Gabe, where

1159
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 9: Stefan is getting lot of attention.

1160
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 7: Gay can take advantage.

1161
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 8: It's basically like Nico or Bust from the receiving course standpoint, gotcha.

1162
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 6: Give us an idea of how uh your head coach

1163
00:58:04,800 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 6: has handled this change over in quarterback, what has been

1164
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 6: his messaging and how close was CJ to playing this week?

1165
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 8: I think if they had, if the game was on Sunday,

1166
00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 8: CJ would have played because he did practice on Tuesday.

1167
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 8: So that means in a regular week, you probably would

1168
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:21,960
Speaker 8: have practiced on Wednesday and then would have practiced on

1169
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 8: Thursday and clear by Friday. I would say that Demiko,

1170
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 8: with the way he had to set up, they're always

1171
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 8: going to be competitive because the defense is so elite,

1172
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,439
Speaker 8: like you have the number one of yards to allow

1173
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:38,919
Speaker 8: per game and total points per game. So regardless when

1174
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 8: you have, you know, a great defense, you're always going

1175
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 8: to be in the game, don't who's that quarterback?

1176
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 7: Right?

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00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 8: We've seen a lot of games with Brown, They've been

1178
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 8: competitive in games whereas Dylan Joe should there. Their competitive

1179
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:54,400
Speaker 8: to the defense is top tier. So I would say

1180
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 8: that about the Texans. So nothing really changed from his perspective.

1181
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,040
Speaker 8: It's more about like just making sure like everybody does

1182
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 8: their their job, you know, they one to eleven, as

1183
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:03,800
Speaker 8: he would call.

1184
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 5: That last one for me, DJ the red zone, it's

1185
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:10,560
Speaker 5: been a problem on both sides of the ball. I

1186
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 5: know the defense hasn't led opponents down there much. I

1187
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 5: think they've allowed the fewest possessions in the red zone

1188
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 5: the entire league. But when teams get down there, they

1189
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 5: sticking in the end zone like more than you would

1190
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 5: expect against the defense of this caliber.

1191
00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 3: What what's going on down there?

1192
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 8: I would say that once they kind of get in

1193
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 8: the red zone area, teams kind of get aggressive and

1194
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 8: they call they call plays to beat their quarters looked,

1195
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 8: especially on you know, if it's like first and ten

1196
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 8: and the fifteen, they're gonna call things, try to take

1197
00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 8: advantage of their quarters looks. Obviously the Broncos were able

1198
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 8: to hit one for a touchdown to RJ.

1199
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 7: Harvey.

1200
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:50,280
Speaker 8: Obviously Mac Jones against the forty nine ers was able

1201
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 8: to do that again well well with I think with George.

1202
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 7: Kettle right for the half.

1203
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 8: So I think it's more when they get there, they

1204
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 8: because de Miko on Earie downands, you kind of know

1205
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 8: what to expect. So at that point now they're really

1206
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 8: trying to call the things that can get into the

1207
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,880
Speaker 8: end zone or at least set it up to get

1208
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 8: into the end zone. And again, like on those early downs,

1209
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 8: they don't necessarily get super tight in coverage, if that

1210
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 8: makes sense. Sometimes they're still kind of playing their loose

1211
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 8: ish coverage and then sometimes you can take advantage of

1212
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 8: that once you get down there. So I think it's more,

1213
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,000
Speaker 8: you know, maybe they could switch them things up, maybe

1214
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 8: get a little bit stickier in coverage at the line

1215
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 8: of scrimmage. But yeah, I mean, you know, like guys

1216
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 8: are impressed in those situations. A lot of time guys

1217
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 8: are off, so you can call plays that can take

1218
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 8: advantage of quote unquote that lose coverage because again, like

1219
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 8: it's usually on early downs when teams getting to the zones,

1220
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:41,919
Speaker 8: not usually on third downs or fourth downs or teams

1221
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 8: get early downs that they could take it down.

1222
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:47,560
Speaker 1: Okay, DJ, that's great stuff. Appreciate it's nice talking to you.

1223
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:53,000
Speaker 7: Absolutely, Absolutely, when I heard the horn, the Bill's horn,

1224
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,400
Speaker 7: it can be flashed back because unfortunately, I'm a Dolphins man, so.

1225
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 8: I can't tell you the money I've heard that I

1226
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 8: don't miss it. I don't miss a Dolphins Bill game.

1227
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,160
Speaker 8: I don't miss any roads so I can't tell them

1228
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 8: out of time. I've heard down that third down. So yeah,

1229
01:01:05,840 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 8: it's fine happening.

1230
01:01:07,560 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, appreciate the time, and we'll catch up with you

1231
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,680
Speaker 5: down the line here.

1232
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 7: All right, no problem, you guys, have a great Thursday.

1233
01:01:13,880 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 3: YouTube at ESPN.

1234
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 5: Texans Reporter DJVNM may joining us take a break here

1235
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 5: and be back with more, including your phone calls and

1236
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 5: the tail gig tag along.

1237
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 3: What's on the menu for this road I can let

1238
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: us know. Excel one goes live.

1239
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:30,640
Speaker 5: All right back here on one Bills Live on a

1240
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,680
Speaker 5: game day as we get you set for Bills Texans

1241
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,000
Speaker 5: here in week twelve.

1242
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 3: First game to be played here in week twelve.

1243
01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:41,360
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Speaker 5: we always tell you, hit us up on x Twitter,

1251
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Speaker 5: whatever you call it. If you're going to be at

1252
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 5: a Bill's home game, as we could make a surprise

1253
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 5: visit to your tailgate if we like what we see

1254
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:13,840
Speaker 5: on your menu.

1255
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:15,480
Speaker 3: You missed some good food last week.

1256
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:20,760
Speaker 6: Man, holy cow, don't get me started. Man, don't get

1257
01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 6: me started. I was watching and of course.

1258
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: You you go to them. They got three trucks with

1259
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: my jersey number on them.

1260
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 6: Yep, and sign everybody there, everybody there is we're in

1261
01:02:34,120 --> 01:02:35,160
Speaker 6: a task for Jersey.

1262
01:02:35,960 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: Like the first time.

1263
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:42,640
Speaker 5: They had eighty nine Hall of Fame drink coozies.

1264
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: They had it all so wrong.

1265
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 5: Which, by the way, incidentally, congratulations for making the next

1266
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 5: cut down to nine.

1267
01:02:50,280 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 6: That's the old news man that was yesterday. Difficult Steve

1268
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 6: that had that had his fifteen minutes. Bro oh okay.

1269
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,440
Speaker 5: In any event, we'll go to see what's on the

1270
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 5: menu for the tailgate tagalog.

1271
01:03:03,840 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 3: Then you don't want to talk about.

1272
01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 1: It, fine, No, let's go.

1273
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:06,600
Speaker 3: Let's go.

1274
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm with you.

1275
01:03:09,160 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 5: Dean says, oh, I'm looking at Sorry, I'm looking at

1276
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 5: the wrong list. Where is my tailgate tag along here?

1277
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 5: Sorry I was on the wrong I was on the

1278
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Speaker 5: tweet cheek. Connor says, homemade chili. Yes, sir, Yes, sir,

1279
01:03:24,840 --> 01:03:29,280
Speaker 5: it's chili season, homemade chili, wood fired blend seasoning that

1280
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 5: has been slow cooking in the crockpot since five point

1281
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,440
Speaker 5: thirty this morning, watching the game from my home in

1282
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:35,640
Speaker 5: Arizona with my family.

1283
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 3: What could be better for a roadie? Not much, Steve.

1284
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:42,680
Speaker 5: There is a danger though, when you cook chili that long,

1285
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 5: you got to make sure you're on that keep warm

1286
01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:48,520
Speaker 5: setting in the crockpot because the last thing you want

1287
01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 5: is evaporation.

1288
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:52,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right.

1289
01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 6: Chili is just an all time home run for tailgates,

1290
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 6: particularly particularly the later in the season you get. Obviously

1291
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,280
Speaker 6: we had we started having it. It all started a

1292
01:04:03,320 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 6: couple of weeks ago, and we had that elk chili

1293
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:09,520
Speaker 6: that was just it was light years ahead of any

1294
01:04:09,600 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 6: chili I've ever had, not and they had chicken cheriso

1295
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 6: in it too. It was unbelievable, so good. And then

1296
01:04:17,120 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 6: of course we didn't went then we went over and

1297
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 6: had the really you know, the stuff, the stuff, peppers

1298
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 6: and the That was an all time banner day. But yeah,

1299
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:30,160
Speaker 6: the chili is absolutely it's Yes, we all back in

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01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 6: week four. Yes, the New Orleans game was a phenomenal

1301
01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 6: tailgate as well. Remember that was the that was both

1302
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 6: ends of the spectrum of the tailgaters. We had the

1303
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 6: silver plattered breakfast sandwiches with self made apple cider, and

1304
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 6: then we were over with the firemen who were in

1305
01:04:50,760 --> 01:04:53,720
Speaker 6: you know, gold chains, flip flops and bathrobes.

1306
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 1: That was pretty awesome.

1307
01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:56,720
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1308
01:04:57,120 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 5: Uh, Michael says, knee replace Baseman surgery. Hopefully I'm home

1309
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 5: in time for kickoff today. The guy's getting surgery today.

1310
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,160
Speaker 5: He's obviously not cooking anything. He's probably ordering a pizza.

1311
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: Probably not.

1312
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 6: No, if he's knee replacements, no, you get that knee

1313
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 6: replacement that he's probably Sundays when he's getting the knee

1314
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 6: replacement home in time for kickoff, it may be Saturday.

1315
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 3: Oh, I think he's getting it today.

1316
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 5: What surgeon is doing surgery on a Sunday, he's doing

1317
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 5: it today.

1318
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 1: They do it when they want. What do I care?

1319
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:32,120
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1320
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,800
Speaker 6: But if he's that means he's gonna be knee replacement

1321
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 6: these days. You're up and out of there, man. They

1322
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,280
Speaker 6: don't hang on to you. You're done go.

1323
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 5: That's why I'm saying he probably had it earlier today

1324
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,880
Speaker 5: and he's hoping to get home in time.

1325
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 3: For kickoff.

1326
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:50,800
Speaker 6: Oh I'm sorry, probably, Yeah, you're right today today, today, Yeah, yeah,

1327
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:51,680
Speaker 6: to this game tonight.

1328
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 1: Hold right, Yeah, he's gonna make it. He'll make it.

1329
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 6: That's aggressive man, Michael. He's gonna be You have no problem.

1330
01:06:02,760 --> 01:06:04,919
Speaker 6: He'll have time with a pizza. Don't worry about putting

1331
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 6: dinner together or a tailgate.

1332
01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:07,400
Speaker 3: For gosh sake.

1333
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 6: Right, yeah, send the guy a pizza, but just say, Steve,

1334
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,600
Speaker 6: send him one of your zero gravity chairs.

1335
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 3: He'll love that. Right out of knee replacements.

1336
01:06:16,360 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 5: Here, Yeah, you gotta have one, Drew says, ribb eyes

1337
01:06:21,920 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 5: and beer.

1338
01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 3: Now, I don't know if it gets more manly than that.

1339
01:06:26,000 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 1: That's my guy. What's on the tailgate menu tonight?

1340
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:31,080
Speaker 3: Ribs and beer?

1341
01:06:33,040 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 1: I know that guy. That's that's kid Hole's son, Drew.

1342
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, rib and no sign of any vegetables anywhere.

1343
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 6: Vegetables a little bit anyway. Potatoes they're a little overrated.

1344
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 6: But yes, you're right, there is some hops and beer.

1345
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:54,520
Speaker 6: It's green related.

1346
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:57,920
Speaker 3: Okay, all right? So yeah, liquid liquid veggies.

1347
01:06:58,640 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 5: Uh, Jack says, have to keep it simple with Thursday

1348
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:04,240
Speaker 5: night football. After a long day of work, ordering up

1349
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,160
Speaker 5: some wings and pizza logs from a local depute joint

1350
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:11,800
Speaker 5: thinking a medium and garlic parmesan extra crispy. Also made

1351
01:07:11,840 --> 01:07:16,000
Speaker 5: some guacamole and can't forget the French onion dip four chips,

1352
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 5: go bills.

1353
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Steve. The short week.

1354
01:07:19,800 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 5: It compromises everybody's well, everybody's menu, everybody's workload. Yeah, but

1355
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 5: we're all jamming and cramming getting ready for this one.

1356
01:07:28,080 --> 01:07:32,320
Speaker 5: You know what though, it does speak to the preparedness

1357
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:33,959
Speaker 5: of it. Well, you and I talk all the time

1358
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,640
Speaker 5: about it when we used to have the you know,

1359
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 5: the relationship football relationship hotline.

1360
01:07:39,360 --> 01:07:40,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1361
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:43,360
Speaker 6: And it's all about thinking ahead and having a plan,

1362
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:48,160
Speaker 6: you know, and having And I'm listening to this song

1363
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 6: right now and I can't do from Drew Holcom. It's

1364
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,360
Speaker 6: called find your people.

1365
01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 3: You know.

1366
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:55,240
Speaker 6: You gotta find your people, the one you know, the

1367
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:58,840
Speaker 6: ones that you know think like you do, uh, and

1368
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:01,920
Speaker 6: make a plan and share your plan with them and

1369
01:08:01,960 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 6: they will help you with your plan and jump on

1370
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 6: board with it. So that's the best way to do everything.

1371
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:10,920
Speaker 6: You have a plan, execute the plan, whether it's like

1372
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,360
Speaker 6: that's right, whether it's wings and pizza log from a

1373
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 6: from somebody who'll make it for you. And you go

1374
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 6: get it or bring it to you, or it's ribbis

1375
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:25,680
Speaker 6: and beer. You know, just make the plan and execute it.

1376
01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 6: That's that's the key thing these Thursday night. I am

1377
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 6: a fan of asking Buffalo style pizza. I almost always

1378
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 6: have to have it extra crispy because I can't. I

1379
01:08:40,360 --> 01:08:46,719
Speaker 6: can't go joey with pizza. I prefer it cooked well done.

1380
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 6: You're you're more of a vague. You're more of a

1381
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,880
Speaker 6: top I mean, of course both are important. You're more

1382
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 6: of a toppings guy than a crust guy.

1383
01:08:58,240 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm probably more of a crust guy.

1384
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, I do.

1385
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 5: If I do pepperoni, that's a lot.

1386
01:09:08,320 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 3: You know.

1387
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:12,960
Speaker 5: I'm the guy usually getting the margarita pizza. If I'm

1388
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 5: getting New York style pizza, I'm good with just cheese.

1389
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 5: I would say my favorite thing to put on a

1390
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:25,800
Speaker 5: pizza is actually like sliced meat, like sliced meatball slices.

1391
01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 3: I love putting some meatball on a pizza. Man, right,

1392
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:31,400
Speaker 3: it's highly underrated.

1393
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: I would say, yes, I'm to that.

1394
01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 5: I'm the anative there.

1395
01:09:36,840 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 6: But let's since you're you know you, and you're married

1396
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 6: to the Sicilian, the meatballs are probably pretty good.

1397
01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 1: So, yeah, I got you.

1398
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:46,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, Oh it's dynamite absolutely all right. So that's the

1399
01:09:46,200 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 5: tailgate tag along list. We've got a lot of people

1400
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 5: holding Steve, so we got to get to some phone

1401
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,000
Speaker 5: calls here, all right. People have been waiting patiently there

1402
01:09:54,000 --> 01:09:55,760
Speaker 5: and we've been busy with other things here on the show.

1403
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 5: But let's go to Cindy and Niagara Falls here on

1404
01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,480
Speaker 5: this game day. What do you got for Cindy?

1405
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 10: Hi, Steve, Hi, Chris, Steve. I'm glad you're feeling better.

1406
01:10:05,120 --> 01:10:12,720
Speaker 10: We're having homemade spaghetti, sauce and cutlets. Yeah, that's the

1407
01:10:12,840 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 10: nice meal. So I just wanted to comment on Kean Coleman,

1408
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:23,200
Speaker 10: who in that h E doubles hockey sticks does he

1409
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:27,920
Speaker 10: think he is? He is not. He is not some

1410
01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 10: prima donna that he can come late to meetings and

1411
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,560
Speaker 10: do what he wants and get away with it. That

1412
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,880
Speaker 10: is not the mentality of our team. Our team is.

1413
01:10:40,520 --> 01:10:43,679
Speaker 11: Not bad at all. So get on board or get

1414
01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:44,479
Speaker 11: the hell out.

1415
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:46,559
Speaker 1: Thanks, guys, you bet all right?

1416
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:52,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I got it, Cindy, don't listen Nate Keyon's Yeah,

1417
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 6: nobody hates Kon and and I don't even know that

1418
01:10:55,560 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 6: they're mad at Kon, you know what I mean, And

1419
01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:04,719
Speaker 6: they're at you know, they're showed. They've shown some grace

1420
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 6: and some patience with him, and I'm sure he has

1421
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 6: done some things that have impressed them at times. They

1422
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 6: draft him and he's not a dislikable person. Everybody loves

1423
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,280
Speaker 6: the guy. But you got to you gotta live up

1424
01:11:19,320 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 6: to the standard. The standard is what it is, and

1425
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 6: when you fall below it, you you pay some consequences

1426
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:28,879
Speaker 6: and you move on. This does not paint Keon Coleman

1427
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:33,839
Speaker 6: as a bad football player, a bad person or anything.

1428
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 6: He's just a little he made a mistake and he

1429
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:43,719
Speaker 6: seems to have a lack of awareness of the effects

1430
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:48,000
Speaker 6: of the consequences of his mistakes. You know, he's got

1431
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 6: to put there's certain things you got to prioritize in

1432
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 6: your life, and he's got his little bit out of

1433
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 6: whack right now, and there don't.

1434
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would say if we if you listen

1435
01:11:58,520 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 5: to the postgame interview whose last week, I thought Dion

1436
01:12:02,479 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 5: Dawkins explained it very well on how the veteran players

1437
01:12:06,360 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 5: have spoken to him, and they basically said it's time

1438
01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 5: for Keon to grow up and that he got the

1439
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:15,600
Speaker 5: message and he understands it. And then Keon stopped and

1440
01:12:15,640 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 5: talked to the media in the tunnel after the game

1441
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 5: last week, and I thought he struck the right chord

1442
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:24,040
Speaker 5: there where he said, I've got to be better for

1443
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 5: my coach and for my teammates. So it appeared that

1444
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 5: the message was received. But as Steve said earlier in

1445
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:37,040
Speaker 5: the show, the guys that played in his absence showed

1446
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:41,560
Speaker 5: up and showed out. And Keon might have done everything

1447
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 5: perfectly this week to the letter, and it might not

1448
01:12:46,600 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 5: matter because the guys that were on the field certainly

1449
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:54,479
Speaker 5: showed their deserving of more opportunities, and they might stay

1450
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 5: in the lineup because of it. And that's where it

1451
01:12:58,120 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 5: sits right now. And that's what happens. When you cost

1452
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,360
Speaker 5: yourself an opportunity.

1453
01:13:01,920 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 1: You get what you earn.

1454
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 6: Here in the Bill and Brownie and I've talked about

1455
01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 6: it for eight years with Sean McDermott. We didn't believe

1456
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 6: it at first. I mean, because coaches say one thing

1457
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 6: and then the first round draft pick plays anyway, you know,

1458
01:13:13,800 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 6: Or that's what we've seen in the past with other

1459
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,240
Speaker 6: coaching staffs. Right you see it around the league. They're

1460
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,719
Speaker 6: gonna say, hey, everybody's the same. Everybody gets what they earns,

1461
01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,000
Speaker 6: and then this guy plays because he's making more money.

1462
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 6: It's never been that way in Buffalo. It's been the

1463
01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:29,160
Speaker 6: exact opposite.

1464
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:29,479
Speaker 3: It is.

1465
01:13:29,520 --> 01:13:33,639
Speaker 6: Indeed, you get what you earn, but there are other

1466
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 6: guys trying to earn exactly the same things that you're

1467
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:41,240
Speaker 6: trying to earn. That's it. That's that's the way it goes. Yeah,

1468
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:48,040
Speaker 6: and they earn it, so they get it. That's It's

1469
01:13:48,080 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 6: that simple, that is you know. Yep, you just they

1470
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:52,200
Speaker 6: you step aside.

1471
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,160
Speaker 3: Straightforward here, Yeah, it's pretty straightforward. Here. Let's go to

1472
01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,160
Speaker 3: Ken in Buffalo. Next, what's up Ken?

1473
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:01,960
Speaker 11: Hey, have you news? Fellas, thanks for taking my car.

1474
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 11: A couple of viewpoints I want to share, First and foremost,

1475
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,600
Speaker 11: make the shout out to Steve. My hope and expectations

1476
01:14:09,640 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 11: that he will be, you know, enshrined in the Hall

1477
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,559
Speaker 11: of Fame a senior semi finance. I think he should

1478
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 11: have been in before they got the senior mode. And

1479
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,320
Speaker 11: I would hope that the voters realize this is not

1480
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 11: just about regular season, but he also had some outstanding

1481
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:27,799
Speaker 11: games in the postseason. I could recall the strip fumble

1482
01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 11: recovery against the Oilers and a wild card very important

1483
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 11: game that we won. I can recall the line drivity

1484
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,360
Speaker 11: he caught with one hand and the side of his

1485
01:14:35,439 --> 01:14:37,960
Speaker 11: helmet against the Raiders and was freezing cold nearly had

1486
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:39,760
Speaker 11: a house called helped to win that game. And he

1487
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 11: also blocked a punt in a Super Bowl against Dallas

1488
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 11: which gave us a fast start. So I hope that

1489
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 11: those sort of variables I take it into consideration, in

1490
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:50,080
Speaker 11: addition to the very illustrious career he had as a

1491
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 11: special team during the regular season. So that's so I've

1492
01:14:52,400 --> 01:14:56,599
Speaker 11: congrats on the semi finance nomination. Have I said, as

1493
01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,800
Speaker 11: much as it relates to the game tonight, I'd like

1494
01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,559
Speaker 11: to see us do more of running Cook out of

1495
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 11: the shotgun. If we saw what happened last week against

1496
01:15:05,160 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 11: the Bucks, when Josh is under center and Alan and

1497
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 11: Cookers in the backfield, it's predictable that we're running ninety

1498
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 11: five percent of the time was better, So I'd like

1499
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:14,479
Speaker 11: to see us run him out of the shotgun more.

1500
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 11: And then I'm also interested in your take on us

1501
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:22,040
Speaker 11: using more read options because of Allan's ability to run

1502
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:23,679
Speaker 11: as a dual threat. You up and tell him outside

1503
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 11: I beg your partners some some fire engines in the background.

1504
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,639
Speaker 11: But the dual threat that Alan poses to me makes

1505
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:33,240
Speaker 11: read option looks, you know, very much common sensical. I'd

1506
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 11: like to see us do more of that and even

1507
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:38,439
Speaker 11: some RPOs. So at the risk of losing the sound

1508
01:15:38,439 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 11: given the fact that I'm outdoors out paused for the

1509
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 11: cars and let you guys chime in again, thanks for

1510
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 11: taking my car.

1511
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:47,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks for the call. Ken, great job.

1512
01:15:48,120 --> 01:15:50,240
Speaker 5: Maybe Steve should have you as a presenter in front

1513
01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 5: of the Hall of Fame selectors.

1514
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:53,919
Speaker 3: I mean, way to run that was kind of impressive. Impressive.

1515
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's not a lot of people that remember eighty

1516
01:15:56,960 --> 01:15:58,919
Speaker 5: eight divisional playoff against the Oilers.

1517
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,599
Speaker 3: Right, you're digging.

1518
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 6: That's a that's a deep, deep.

1519
01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 5: Pull there, So well done, I would say in terms

1520
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 5: of running out of shotgun, the only reason I think

1521
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:17,240
Speaker 5: they like Josh under center, especially with a defense that

1522
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 5: is this aggressive Steve, is they.

1523
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 3: Are ready to just pounce and kill you in the run.

1524
01:16:24,479 --> 01:16:27,599
Speaker 5: So if Josh back's away from center and goes play

1525
01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:31,760
Speaker 5: action fake, you are getting these linebackers to cheat up.

1526
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,679
Speaker 5: So you want to do shotgun handoff a little bit.

1527
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,639
Speaker 5: I'll listen to that, but I think you can really

1528
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 5: get these dudes on play action and take advantage of

1529
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:44,679
Speaker 5: their own aggressiveness to stop the run.

1530
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,040
Speaker 3: So, Uh, you want to sprinkle it in.

1531
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 5: I'll listen to that, Ken, but I don't know if

1532
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 5: I want to do it as a habit. But what

1533
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 5: do you think, Steve of the Reid option game? Because

1534
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 5: these are two defensive ends. I mean, we heard djuh

1535
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 5: talking to a in the last segment about how they're

1536
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 5: excellent edge setters and they're good enough athletes where even

1537
01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 5: if Josh keeps it.

1538
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 3: They may make it difficult for him to get outside.

1539
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:10,840
Speaker 2: Right.

1540
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:14,680
Speaker 1: I agree, he's right. Ken is writing about one thing.

1541
01:17:14,760 --> 01:17:17,240
Speaker 6: They're gonna have to run the ball somehow, some way

1542
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:19,160
Speaker 6: and find a way to do it. They're gonna have

1543
01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,840
Speaker 6: to try the outside zone. They're gonna have to try

1544
01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 6: that toss play that has been so successful. They're gonna

1545
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:26,800
Speaker 6: have to try pin and pull plays. They're gonna have

1546
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 6: try that duo play that they do where everybody double

1547
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 6: teams and then slides to the second level. They'll try

1548
01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:32,120
Speaker 6: all of it.

1549
01:17:32,880 --> 01:17:33,040
Speaker 1: Now.

1550
01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 6: They'll start with stuff they've seen on film that maybe

1551
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:37,680
Speaker 6: somebody else has done. Well against them and all of that,

1552
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,080
Speaker 6: and they'll try to tailor it to do what they

1553
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,320
Speaker 6: do better. But all of that stuff is gonna be

1554
01:17:42,320 --> 01:17:45,320
Speaker 6: attempted at some point tonight unless they start having success

1555
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 6: right out of the gate, and then they'll have a change, right.

1556
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 6: I mean, that's small probability. You're gonna see a lot

1557
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 6: of different things in the Bills running games tonight because

1558
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 6: they gotta find something and not everything's gonna work against

1559
01:17:57,439 --> 01:18:03,519
Speaker 6: this crew, right, So Ken's right, this, this defensive front

1560
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:06,559
Speaker 6: gives you pause as a run game specialist to come

1561
01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,360
Speaker 6: up with something. Then out they set the edge really well.

1562
01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,160
Speaker 6: You know the RPOs, Yeah that's good. But even if

1563
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 6: you rpo it and Josh, you know, makes the right decision,

1564
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 6: still going to be a tight throw or you know,

1565
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 6: he's gonna have to outrun somebody.

1566
01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: And they stay at home.

1567
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 6: The run the run pass option, not the run pass option,

1568
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 6: but the read options. I mean, yeah, okay, but sooner

1569
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,519
Speaker 6: or later, somebody's going to get a shot on Josh.

1570
01:18:37,240 --> 01:18:38,960
Speaker 6: And I'm not all I'm not that fan. I'm not

1571
01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 6: a fan of that. This is week eleven of twelve

1572
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 6: of nineteen twenty twenty one. Josh's got to play in

1573
01:18:45,439 --> 01:18:49,360
Speaker 6: all of them. So I would agree with Ken in

1574
01:18:49,400 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 6: one PREMI and the premise of his of his statement

1575
01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 6: about all the run stuff. They got to find a way.

1576
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,160
Speaker 6: They got to find a way to get it right.

1577
01:18:57,720 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 5: What about what do you think about throw into the

1578
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:05,559
Speaker 5: backs at times, not as a main component, but almost

1579
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:07,640
Speaker 5: use that as an extension of the run game and

1580
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 5: just get them out in space like we saw last week.

1581
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:13,080
Speaker 5: I know this is a major pursuit type defense and

1582
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:16,519
Speaker 5: maybe it's not in the cards, but I'm not saying

1583
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:20,480
Speaker 5: use it to be your run game, but I'm saying, maybe.

1584
01:19:20,400 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 3: Turn to it every once in a while.

1585
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:23,840
Speaker 1: Well no, I mean they did it.

1586
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,960
Speaker 6: They used it last week that they had five running

1587
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:28,439
Speaker 6: had five catches by running backs, two of them were

1588
01:19:28,479 --> 01:19:32,000
Speaker 6: for touchdown and twenty seven yards. So it worked against

1589
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 6: Tampa Bay, it could work against Houston. They need to,

1590
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 6: like I said, they need to look for opportunities to

1591
01:19:39,320 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 6: do it because you know they got guys that can

1592
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 6: do it. It's it's tough for us to decipher what

1593
01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:50,200
Speaker 6: could be a good game plan against this defense because

1594
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,520
Speaker 6: this defense has had success against so many different offenses

1595
01:19:54,280 --> 01:19:56,519
Speaker 6: and this you got to look for what you can do.

1596
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:59,160
Speaker 6: And like last week showed us, the Bills have a

1597
01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 6: big menu they can go to right both in their

1598
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 6: run game and their passing game, and they've got to

1599
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,680
Speaker 6: pluck the items from those menus that other teams have

1600
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 6: had success doing and run it against Houston. Now against

1601
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:16,520
Speaker 6: Houston where you know, because Houston doesn't defend everything perfectly.

1602
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:19,040
Speaker 6: They've you know, they've given up some points like every

1603
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 6: team does. But the Bill's got to look for their

1604
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 6: opportunity to exploit what the Texans don't do well defensively. Now,

1605
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 6: if they've got the people that can do it, they're

1606
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:33,439
Speaker 6: gonna do it. It's hard to find out what that's gonna be.

1607
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 6: Because they're so good at all three levels. It's impossible

1608
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:41,040
Speaker 6: for us to sit here from arm's length and say, yeah,

1609
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 6: these got this part of their defense doesn't really play well.

1610
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:47,000
Speaker 6: We can do that because because the Bills really can't

1611
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:49,479
Speaker 6: take advantage of a weakness just about any weakness of

1612
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 6: a team's defense, this team has not shown very many

1613
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:55,200
Speaker 6: of those. So it's hard for us to decipher where

1614
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:57,840
Speaker 6: the Bills feel like, yeah, we can flex on them.

1615
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 3: Here, go to vern On a sell.

1616
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,960
Speaker 12: What's that vern How you doing I got a question

1617
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 12: for you. Uh, with Coleman's being sat down now for

1618
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:11,160
Speaker 12: the second game in a row, does that affect his

1619
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 12: pay at all? Or is it just you know, he's

1620
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,559
Speaker 12: still paying these sitting on a bench.

1621
01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:22,720
Speaker 6: He's still on the active roster, right, Yeah, so that game,

1622
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,200
Speaker 6: that's the only thing that affects you. Even if you're inactive,

1623
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:28,000
Speaker 6: you're still getting paid because that's a coach's decision. But

1624
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 6: you're if you're on the fifty three, man, it does

1625
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 6: not affect you practice squad. If they if they send

1626
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 6: him down to the practice squad, Yeah, then that's a

1627
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:36,640
Speaker 6: that's a pay cut.

1628
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, but he would have to Yeah, he would have

1629
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 5: to go through.

1630
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 3: Waivers.

1631
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, all the paperwork and all that, and there's

1632
01:21:46,120 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 6: only so much you can do. They could put him

1633
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,720
Speaker 6: on the practice squad, but you know they would have

1634
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 6: to protect him as well. So yeah, so that all

1635
01:21:53,000 --> 01:21:54,679
Speaker 6: of that goes into it. But yeah, that's the only

1636
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,920
Speaker 6: thing that would change it. That just playing and not

1637
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 6: playing does has nothing to do with being on the

1638
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,360
Speaker 6: fifty three for your paycheck.

1639
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 5: Which is why I'm curious as to what what's gonna

1640
01:22:06,680 --> 01:22:11,160
Speaker 5: happen here with Gabe Davis because presuming he's elevated for

1641
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 5: tonight's game, that's going to be his second elevation, and

1642
01:22:15,479 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 5: then you have your third elevation. When you get to

1643
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:19,560
Speaker 5: the fourth, I'm guessing they just sign him to the

1644
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:23,360
Speaker 5: active roster and make room for him, because you only

1645
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:26,519
Speaker 5: get three elevations where they just go revert right back

1646
01:22:26,520 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 5: to the practice squad.

1647
01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,200
Speaker 3: After that, you got to sign him to the fifty three.

1648
01:22:29,240 --> 01:22:32,720
Speaker 5: And I think if things go as they did last week,

1649
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 5: we're probably headed in that direction.

1650
01:22:35,240 --> 01:22:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah that.

1651
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,320
Speaker 6: I think We've talked about this a lot too. I

1652
01:22:40,320 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 6: think you just keep doing what you need to do

1653
01:22:41,880 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 6: week to week, right, and you look at there and

1654
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,679
Speaker 6: when you get there, you get there's like, oh yeah, okay,

1655
01:22:47,680 --> 01:22:49,360
Speaker 6: this guy's hurt, so we can now we can sign

1656
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 6: him and put the other guy on. You know, you

1657
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,280
Speaker 6: always something, always had, You've always got guys dropping out

1658
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 6: of a lineup. May he may get signed to the

1659
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:00,640
Speaker 6: fifty three because you get a linebacker down something like that.

1660
01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 1: You know, you's never know.

1661
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:05,479
Speaker 5: Right, got a minute before the break, Let's squeeze in

1662
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:06,599
Speaker 5: Harold here in Rochester.

1663
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 3: What's up? Harold?

1664
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 13: Hi, guys, I wanted to give you a call because

1665
01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 13: at the end of training camp this year, I found

1666
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,160
Speaker 13: out that I had to have open heart surgery, you know,

1667
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 13: two valves replaced, a bypass inclusion of my heart, and

1668
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:24,519
Speaker 13: a pacemaker put in. And I was able to talk

1669
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:28,920
Speaker 13: to a couple of the players at camp, and right

1670
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 13: before surgery, I told the surgeons, you know, be good

1671
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 13: and make sure you do good and God bless and

1672
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:40,080
Speaker 13: three people in the surgery room said, go bills with me.

1673
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:41,439
Speaker 11: And then.

1674
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:47,360
Speaker 13: When I left and left, I tu and went to

1675
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:50,640
Speaker 13: the cardiac wing. I ended up having Reggie Gilliam on

1676
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 13: the phone calling me to encourage me, and that really

1677
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:57,559
Speaker 13: just meant so much because I felt awful that day

1678
01:23:57,640 --> 01:23:59,800
Speaker 13: and people were amazed that I had to smile on

1679
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 13: my face the rest of the day. After Reggie called me,

1680
01:24:02,720 --> 01:24:06,160
Speaker 13: and he had me at the game the other day

1681
01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 13: and versus Tampa Bay, and I was down there on

1682
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 13: the field and we did the sledgehammer celebration together to

1683
01:24:13,439 --> 01:24:15,800
Speaker 13: knock out that all those heart problems that I had.

1684
01:24:15,840 --> 01:24:19,400
Speaker 13: And awesome Reggie's been. Reggie's been getting a lot of

1685
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,960
Speaker 13: great pres lately about how good he's been playing, and

1686
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,760
Speaker 13: he has been playing fantastic. But I just want to

1687
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 13: point out that he is a fantastic guy off the

1688
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 13: field as well, and I'm lucky to know the guy

1689
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 13: and I call him a friend.

1690
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 5: All right, Well, that's awesome, thanks for story. Glad you're

1691
01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 5: doing well. Glad surgery went well and continued. Good luck

1692
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:45,000
Speaker 5: in your recovery. My dad had double bypassed, so that

1693
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,599
Speaker 5: is that's some serious stuff.

1694
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 3: So my dad, Glad you came out of it. Okay.

1695
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:51,599
Speaker 6: Yeah, my dad had a valve and a five bypass

1696
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:54,160
Speaker 6: as well. The two different, two different operations.

1697
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:56,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's least stuff.

1698
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,439
Speaker 6: He's Yeah, my dad said he he he would not

1699
01:25:00,520 --> 01:25:03,439
Speaker 6: go in for a thirty Yeah, that's it. They are hard.

1700
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:07,679
Speaker 6: So cheers to you, Harold. Glad you're doing well.

1701
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 5: We are going to step aside and take a break here.

1702
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:15,000
Speaker 5: We got some time for a few tweets from the

1703
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 5: tweets sheet. We'll get to those when we return here.

1704
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,840
Speaker 5: On a Buffalo football game day here on one Bill's Live,

1705
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,400
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1706
01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:22,160
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1707
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,799
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1708
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:44,439
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1709
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,280
Speaker 5: I think the Bills have to go back to their

1710
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 5: efficiency model on offense. We talked about it with Great

1711
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,759
Speaker 5: co Sell earlier today. I know fans want to be entertained.

1712
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:57,240
Speaker 5: They loved all the moonballs last week, but that is

1713
01:25:57,400 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 5: not the way to win this game tonight. And no

1714
01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 5: offense to the fans. But the Bills really don't care

1715
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 5: about how entertaining they look.

1716
01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:08,440
Speaker 3: They care about winning football games.

1717
01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:09,120
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1718
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,759
Speaker 5: The efficiency model, I think is the mo tonight, stay

1719
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 5: on schedule, down in distance wise, and finish drives in

1720
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,080
Speaker 5: the end zone. But you're not gonna do that living

1721
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 5: on third and eight, third and nine, second and ten.

1722
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 5: You got to be in second and four and third

1723
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:24,400
Speaker 5: and two and three.

1724
01:26:25,200 --> 01:26:25,720
Speaker 3: That's right.

1725
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 6: They got to stay in run past neutral, down in

1726
01:26:30,640 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 6: distance as often as they can first and ten, second

1727
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:40,719
Speaker 6: and five, third and two, first and ten, second and five,

1728
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:44,960
Speaker 6: third and two, first and ten, second and five, first

1729
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 6: and ten again.

1730
01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:47,160
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta stay on the field.

1731
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 6: And I think if you're Joe Brady in the film

1732
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:51,519
Speaker 6: rooms today, you're looking at all the films that you've

1733
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,479
Speaker 6: seen in the past, and all the films that you're

1734
01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:57,080
Speaker 6: watching this Texans defense, and all you're doing is say, Josh,

1735
01:26:57,160 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 6: take this one right, here, Josh, take this one, this one,

1736
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,880
Speaker 6: Take this one. Don't go for that one, just take

1737
01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,519
Speaker 6: this one. Get the ball out of your hands.

1738
01:27:05,560 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: Now.

1739
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,960
Speaker 6: If if they can do that tonight and complete some

1740
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:13,839
Speaker 6: passes and Josh has a seventy percent completion percentage, even

1741
01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:20,680
Speaker 6: even sixty five to seventy, they're gonna be okay. And

1742
01:27:20,720 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 6: I would say too, because of their success last week,

1743
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 6: there'll be more confident in throwing the football past the

1744
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,200
Speaker 6: line of scrimmage instead of you know, all the bubble

1745
01:27:29,240 --> 01:27:31,360
Speaker 6: and whip screens that they've been throwing and living on

1746
01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,840
Speaker 6: bubble screens, tunnel screens and whip screens that they've been

1747
01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,240
Speaker 6: you know, subsisting on put the ball past the line

1748
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:42,880
Speaker 6: of scrimmage a couple of times tonight, and give yourselves

1749
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,519
Speaker 6: a chance, particularly with play action and all that. You

1750
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 6: gotta find a way to move the chains. And if

1751
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 6: you do, you know you're gonna be fine. Obviously, protect

1752
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 6: ball protection is huge. But this offense, and I don't

1753
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:04,759
Speaker 6: want to be disparaging, but even against the Bills defense

1754
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 6: that has been struggling against the run, this offense will

1755
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,720
Speaker 6: struggle to keep up with you. They'll struggle to keep

1756
01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 6: up with you. If you just finish drives with points.

1757
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1758
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 5: I think defensively, though, the Bills cannot have as many

1759
01:28:22,680 --> 01:28:25,400
Speaker 5: compromised edges as they did last week. I think one

1760
01:28:25,479 --> 01:28:27,880
Speaker 5: hundred and forty of the one hundred and fifty or

1761
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:30,479
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirties or whatever the total was two

1762
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,880
Speaker 5: hundred and two rushing yards that the Bucks had last week,

1763
01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 5: Like over one hundred and forty was outside the tackles.

1764
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 3: That cannot happen tonight.

1765
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,439
Speaker 5: Just keep them to four and five yard gains, No

1766
01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 5: big leak outs, no forty yard touchdown runs.

1767
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:44,920
Speaker 3: Can't have any of those.

1768
01:28:45,160 --> 01:28:48,400
Speaker 5: We know the run defense is not top ten worthy,

1769
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,360
Speaker 5: but it at least make the Texans earn it. You know,

1770
01:28:52,439 --> 01:28:55,040
Speaker 5: give them three and four yard gains, not eight to

1771
01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,000
Speaker 5: nines and then bust in one for forty.

1772
01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: Can't have it tonight, that's right.

1773
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 6: You know, remind yourself it's not going to be in

1774
01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,679
Speaker 6: you know, four hundred plus yard offensive day tonight.

1775
01:29:05,920 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 1: You know it's not gonna be one of those nights.

1776
01:29:09,479 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 6: But you got to find a way to stay on

1777
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 6: the field, and at the end of it, you want

1778
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 6: to kind of look a little bit like the Tampa

1779
01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 6: Bay team dead last week with thirty five minutes possession time.

1780
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 6: You know, don't turn it over, keep possession of the

1781
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,519
Speaker 6: ball and stay on the field. It's gonna work out

1782
01:29:24,560 --> 01:29:25,040
Speaker 6: really well.

1783
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,080
Speaker 3: That was one of the most interesting stats, Steve.

1784
01:29:28,240 --> 01:29:31,320
Speaker 5: The Bills and the Texans are tied for second in

1785
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 5: the league in time of possession at exactly thirty two

1786
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,200
Speaker 5: minutes and twenty two seconds, same exact time.

1787
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,840
Speaker 3: Crazy. That's it for us today. Enjoy the game tonight, Steve,

1788
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:49,280
Speaker 3: and I'll catch it tomorrow. We'll see it whate