WEBVTT - Spider-Man: Brand New Day Spoiler-Free Reactions

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, Today's episode will contain no spoilers, no spoilers for

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<v Speaker 1>the new Spider Man movie Spider Man and Brand New Day.

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<v Speaker 1>It may contain spoilers for other Marvel movies and other

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man movies. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcio and

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<v Speaker 1>on Bersday Night, and welcome back to x Ravision, the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast where we dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics,

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<v Speaker 1>and pop culture comedy. From my heart, We're ring you

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<v Speaker 1>three episodes fust News.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's episode. Guys, they made us wait such a

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<v Speaker 2>long time. It feels like it's badly real, but spider

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<v Speaker 2>Man Brand New Day is here.

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<v Speaker 3>We have seen it and we're going to tell you

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<v Speaker 3>our spoiler free reactions. Don't worry, you know we will

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<v Speaker 3>be coming with those spoilers next week.

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<v Speaker 2>We will have a more in depth look at.

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<v Speaker 3>The movie on Wednesday for our spider Man Brand New

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<v Speaker 3>Day Roundtable that will be filled with spoilers, easter eggs,

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<v Speaker 3>all those breakdowns.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to know, But we want to give everyone

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<v Speaker 2>a chance.

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<v Speaker 3>To see it, so for now, this is all spoiler

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<v Speaker 3>free reactions to spider Man Brand New Day.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, spider Man, Brand New Day, we saw it at

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<v Speaker 1>a extremely packed screening.

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<v Speaker 2>Who talk about that line?

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<v Speaker 1>I prove that, I will. That felt to me like

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<v Speaker 1>they were trying to create a little bit of false

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<v Speaker 1>scarcity and hypeen by because you know, it's if you

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<v Speaker 1>are SVP, you should have a seat, and it should

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<v Speaker 1>be very easy to do that, but they made it

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<v Speaker 1>like listen, if you don't come in time, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see I got there at half an hour before

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<v Speaker 1>the screening.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>The line at the AMC at the Grove, one of

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<v Speaker 1>my favorite places see a movie, went from the lobby

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<v Speaker 1>up the stairs next to the factory, round the fucking

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<v Speaker 1>perimeter of the upstairs, and then back down the stairs.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never seen anything like this for screening.

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<v Speaker 3>It was busier than my end game screening, which I think, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>was very smart of them. Now I will say, Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>I believe you are correct.

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<v Speaker 1>My end Games screening was at the Cinerama Dome, which, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>My god, that's unreal.

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<v Speaker 3>My endgame screening was on the Disney lot, but the

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<v Speaker 3>que which we did still have to queue.

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<v Speaker 2>In, was not that long.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I did notice is they basically just they

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<v Speaker 3>made sure the screens were clear and then they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>let anyone until like seven fifteen, so it looked really

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<v Speaker 3>impressive and crazy, and I'm not gonna lie. It did

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<v Speaker 3>make people start going, oh okay, so I know that

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<v Speaker 3>last night they did invite hundreds of press, like I

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<v Speaker 3>got an official number on how many.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was it's good. They think it's good.

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<v Speaker 3>They also know it's going to get people talking, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's like, get people in now, Jason, is it good?

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you, And I think this will be

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<v Speaker 1>an uncontroversial statement. I think it's the best Spider Man

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<v Speaker 1>movie easily, kind of easily the best one.

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<v Speaker 2>It is so.

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<v Speaker 3>Much of the classic Peter Parker Spider Man story.

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<v Speaker 2>It is down on his luck Peter. It is emo Peter.

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<v Speaker 2>It is Peter who.

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<v Speaker 3>Doesn't have a support network the whole way through the movie.

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<v Speaker 3>And yet I will say the way that they managed

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<v Speaker 3>to still build in the relationship with MJ with Ned

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<v Speaker 3>it works so well, and it pays homage to the

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<v Speaker 3>two characters and does not cut out the two actors

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<v Speaker 3>Ned who have bought Ned an MJ to life all

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<v Speaker 3>this time, even though nobody knows who Peter is.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is the rule that I came up with watching

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<v Speaker 1>this movie last night, and of course, you know coming

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<v Speaker 1>in from Far from Home, recall, nobody remembers who Peter is,

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<v Speaker 1>his best friends Ned and MJ, his love of his life,

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<v Speaker 1>MJ and does not remember him. Nobody remembers Peter Parker,

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<v Speaker 1>remembers who he is. They know who Spider Man is,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't remember. Watching this movie last night, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think every I think it should be a rule,

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<v Speaker 1>every Marvel and Gun should steal this for as long

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<v Speaker 1>as every comic book movie needs to have a couple

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<v Speaker 1>in real life that is actually fucking.

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<v Speaker 2>Are there because the chemist.

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<v Speaker 1>Their chemistry is just you can't as you can fake

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<v Speaker 1>what they do.

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<v Speaker 3>No, there's a sequence that is not particularly you know,

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<v Speaker 3>narratively heavy, but it's very emotionally but yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>And there is this sequence where they're between a sheet.

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<v Speaker 3>Again not a narrative thing, just like a visual thing.

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<v Speaker 3>It is so unbelievable, and the smiles and.

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<v Speaker 2>The glittering eye make it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is really great chemistry and those two it is

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<v Speaker 3>tom daya summer and you know what they deserve it

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<v Speaker 3>If people didn't believe they had the juice after the Oscars,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, after the Odyssey, you know that wasn't mea Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>but sub questioned it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is unquestionable star power.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, this is big, I think than a Brad Pitt,

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<v Speaker 3>Angelina Jolie, because these kids are young, like these are

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<v Speaker 3>stars made of their own.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that was a home wrecking stitution, right.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I'm saying. There was a salacious.

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<v Speaker 3>Tabloid element that made them the most famous couple in

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<v Speaker 3>the world. But Tom Daya is out here just that

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<v Speaker 3>every premiere, every movie, you know. I think they each

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<v Speaker 3>had three movies a year this year or something crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>It is an astonishing kind of proof of how good

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<v Speaker 3>the two of them are together, and also how good

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<v Speaker 3>Holland is in this role.

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<v Speaker 2>He and Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 3>another great role in this which some people might be

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<v Speaker 3>surprised to him me say, because guess what. Sometimes he

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<v Speaker 3>annoys me. His name's John Burnthor we all know him,

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<v Speaker 3>we all love him. The Punisher representation. Is it complicated? Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I hate one Last Kill?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, he is so incredible and him and

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<v Speaker 2>Tom together the way, I'm not gonna lie.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a I'm not gonna lie as well. If you

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<v Speaker 3>like one Last Kill and you like that Frank, he

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<v Speaker 3>is that Frank. And it is all about with that context,

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<v Speaker 3>how Peter does not agree with what Frank does. And

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<v Speaker 3>then it becomes about what is heroism? What is it

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<v Speaker 3>to be a hero? What is it to stand up

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<v Speaker 3>for someone? And also what is it to have a

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<v Speaker 3>friend as a man and.

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<v Speaker 2>What does that look like?

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<v Speaker 3>And oh my god, Jason, they're so fucking good together,

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<v Speaker 3>holland Don Thole in this it's pure comic book.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a great odd couple pairing. They play off each

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<v Speaker 1>other wonderfully. It's just it really really worked. And then

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<v Speaker 1>the next thing I'll say is I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the other thing I was thinking throughout. I'm like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>Marvel still got it. They still got it. It's this

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<v Speaker 1>is now ten years eleven years since the debut of

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<v Speaker 1>the character in Captain America Civil War, nine years since

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<v Speaker 1>Spider and Homecoming, the first Spider Man movie, And this

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<v Speaker 1>is like, Marvel can the Spider Man movies are good,

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<v Speaker 1>full stop? They're good, but to ten years in do

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<v Speaker 1>the best one?

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<v Speaker 2>This is this is okay, let me add a hack coup?

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a Sony Marvel combination situation, because it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem you know, it doesn't seem like Marvel can do

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<v Speaker 3>when they don't have Spider Man right now. You know, now,

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<v Speaker 3>right now, but this is right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is proof.

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<v Speaker 3>I think, like one, I don't think this is gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be a controversial take after this movie.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Marvel is gonna be.

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<v Speaker 3>Regretting taking Destin off the Avengers Double Bill. I think

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<v Speaker 3>he should have been on Doomsday. I think he should

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<v Speaker 3>have been on Secret Wars. He makes a fucking big

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<v Speaker 3>argument that he should be the auta here.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're talking about how.

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<v Speaker 3>The guys from Community aka the Russo Brothers kind of

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<v Speaker 3>shook up Hollywood when they came in and they made

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<v Speaker 3>of and they did their Captain America, they did their Avengers,

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<v Speaker 3>they did all of this stuff right.

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<v Speaker 2>They made Oh it's huge. It's the biggest movies in

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<v Speaker 2>the world.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess what, bro That is what you come out of

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<v Speaker 3>feeling this like the action in this The way that

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<v Speaker 3>Deston and his crew were able to translate the really

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<v Speaker 3>slick yet frenetic action of the Insomniac video game to

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<v Speaker 3>the screen is incredibly surreal, especially because a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times you can see it as a person in a suit,

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<v Speaker 3>so it does not feel like you're watching a video cutscene.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that really helps.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, really, it really humanized it. And we were talking

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<v Speaker 1>about this before we started rolling. You know, Marvel had

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<v Speaker 1>been criticized in the past for the way their movies looked.

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<v Speaker 1>The color grading was very slick and a little shiny.

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<v Speaker 1>The shadows were you know, really kind of like crushed.

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<v Speaker 1>It just was a very visible it, yeah, like very visible,

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<v Speaker 1>very smy very color contrasty kind of look, very modern look,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess his digital kind of look. And Spider Around

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<v Speaker 1>Brand New Day and Thunderbolts before it. It really does

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<v Speaker 1>seem like the directors who are who have come in

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<v Speaker 1>in this kind of transitional period having fits and starts

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<v Speaker 1>trying to move away from that look. I thought, I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Thunderbolts looked great, and this movie looks.

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<v Speaker 2>Like this looks bad.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a shot on Kodak. I mean, it looks it

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<v Speaker 1>looked I just you know, we talked about The Invite,

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<v Speaker 1>a movie that was very loudly shot on analog film,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty five millimeter film, and while and and this film

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<v Speaker 1>has that look. It just has that richness that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like texture to it that fits New York so well.

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<v Speaker 1>Although there's a wonderful, yeah, like b roll sequence in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie that's just New York that looks incredible.

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<v Speaker 3>And even yeah, I mean the credits you will fit like.

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<v Speaker 3>It's really interesting because Tom Holand's been saying, oh, you'll

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<v Speaker 3>know why it's brand new day at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie, right. But ironically, like even the credits, b

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<v Speaker 3>roll of New York is kind of a it's this

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<v Speaker 3>idea of just like New York's always gonna be New York,

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<v Speaker 3>it's always gonna keep going, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So the colorist is actually.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Poole, who if you have seen Drive, you've seen

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<v Speaker 3>his work, and this.

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<v Speaker 2>Movie it makes sense. Yeah, it's got that drive look.

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<v Speaker 3>There's these great dark, moody moments, but there's these colorful sheines.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's this great sequence of him just kind of.

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<v Speaker 3>Swinging through the rain, a really moody moment, and that

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<v Speaker 3>is just so fantastic. He was a colorist on bloomin Eck.

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<v Speaker 3>Like so many things, it's looks so good.

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<v Speaker 1>Drive was also also had a analog look shot on digital,

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<v Speaker 1>and man, they really translated that. You know, it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't go full like a twenty four Deep Shadows

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<v Speaker 1>look where you're like, is this a drama? But it

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<v Speaker 1>also sands down that kind of shiny comic book look

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<v Speaker 1>in a way that just underlines where Peter is in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, in his life and to your point at

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<v Speaker 1>the start of this this is kind of the mode

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<v Speaker 1>that the most iconic Peter Parker stories and habit. He's

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<v Speaker 1>living on his own, he is throwing himself his work,

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<v Speaker 1>he's laid on rent, he's just kind of like scuffling along,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's ultimately a lonely guy, and it's great. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to talk about the other characters that show

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<v Speaker 1>up in this, but I think another triumph, Yes, the performances, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well another triumph I want to say of Marvel. Marvel's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing this throughout, but you know, late stage Marvel,

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the difficulties. I really appreciate the way that this

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<v Speaker 1>movie leaned on the wider universe and just kind of

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<v Speaker 1>opened the frame so that other characters, other groups that

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<v Speaker 1>have been established throughout Marvel are just kind of there

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<v Speaker 1>and they just kind of like walk in and out.

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<v Speaker 2>And do you really feel that makes sense? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You feel that wider world in this and it's great, cool,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just it just feels great. Marvel still got it.

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<v Speaker 1>They still got it in moments like this.

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<v Speaker 3>It's giving comic book movie in a way that they

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<v Speaker 3>haven't for a while, whether it is the Punisher Spider

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<v Speaker 3>Man relationship, whether it is the kind of wondering cost

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<v Speaker 3>of characters because it's sat New York, we've always said

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<v Speaker 3>that right like who else might be there? And also

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<v Speaker 3>as well, I think the way that they managed to

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<v Speaker 3>introduce a lot of really key figures and key performances

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<v Speaker 3>here in a way that just really works. They did

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<v Speaker 3>a great job with the cost. They're bringing in a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of character actors here. They're making sure that these

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<v Speaker 3>are going to be characters people remember, even if they're

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<v Speaker 3>in small roles, which I think is really good. Jason,

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<v Speaker 3>let's do some grading. Uh John barnth or what are

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<v Speaker 3>you grading him?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I'm going to give him an A

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<v Speaker 1>minus to it to it A I think I was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>The contrast with Peter helps bring out what makes Peter

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<v Speaker 1>special in an and and like a mirror image that

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<v Speaker 1>brings out Peter, brings out the rough edges and the

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<v Speaker 1>things about Frank that make him unique in a really

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<v Speaker 1>interesting way. They both help each other, oh and develop

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<v Speaker 1>each other in a way that's like really nice.

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<v Speaker 2>More character development for the Punisher than we've.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever and he's he's he's great. Seriously, this is like

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<v Speaker 1>the most character development ever for the punish and he's

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<v Speaker 1>great in this. I'm gonna give him an A.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree he's getting an A from.

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<v Speaker 1>Me, A minus Zindaia mj Yep, it's an A plus

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<v Speaker 1>for me.

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<v Speaker 2>She's getting She's doing a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, guys, we can't really get into it, but she's

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<v Speaker 3>doing so much you're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's as Zenda as end. I think even a boo

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<v Speaker 2>will like this one.

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<v Speaker 1>They leap off the screen. They it's it's just insane.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, Jason, we can't say anything, really, but we can say,

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<v Speaker 3>what would you grade Sadie sinc Does she bring something

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<v Speaker 3>good to this movie?

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<v Speaker 2>It's her performance.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm giving her in a She's she has the juice.

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<v Speaker 3>We said she had the juice has and she has

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<v Speaker 3>the juice. No one's questioning it. Particularly think her and

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<v Speaker 3>Tom Holand are very good together. I'm very excited to

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<v Speaker 3>see more of that going.

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<v Speaker 2>Forward, have the juice Juice Juice?

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<v Speaker 3>Could she Jason, Could Sadie sinc be a major part

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<v Speaker 3>of the MCU going forward if she needs to be, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it has to be with the way

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<v Speaker 1>she's introducing this movie. But I'll say this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>not a spoiler because there's no suggestion of this in

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<v Speaker 1>the film.

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<v Speaker 2>M But.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that Figy in particular is like, ooh love Triangle.

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<v Speaker 3>No, he is, No, I'm telling you this is not

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<v Speaker 3>a spoiler. But the chemistry is real. The experiences that

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<v Speaker 3>they are going through here interesting red hat.

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<v Speaker 1>No one is saying it's that's not a spoiler.

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<v Speaker 2>We're just shippers who can't help it.

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<v Speaker 3>The chemistry is that she definitely gets an a. I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's going to be another breakout performance for her

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<v Speaker 3>if you loved her in the Whale. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>think Figy's thinking that for sure, and also as well,

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<v Speaker 3>watching this the whole time, you know we can't help it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I will say that's how.

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<v Speaker 3>I know the movie was like engrossing an action packed

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<v Speaker 3>because my my critic MCU commentator brain wasn't on the

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<v Speaker 3>whole time like a lot of it. I did just

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<v Speaker 3>get sucked in like I was a kid, especially the Punisher,

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<v Speaker 3>Spider Man stuff. Same, but I was whenever she was

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<v Speaker 3>on screen, I was like, okay, okay, okay, she's got it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I was like my my critic brain was coming back,

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<v Speaker 3>and it was like, okay, So if they did need her,

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<v Speaker 3>so if they wanted her to lead stuff, like could

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<v Speaker 3>she yeah? No, question like this is this could be

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<v Speaker 3>the future of the MCU, just just this cost.

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<v Speaker 2>But we know it won't be because the MCU is huge.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the point of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I mean I will say, I don't remember.

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<v Speaker 1>I need to watch the movie. Yeah, back was Amy

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<v Speaker 1>Pascal's name as big in the credits as it was

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<v Speaker 1>in this movie beforehand. But she deserves it, baby, Aby,

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<v Speaker 1>you did it.

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<v Speaker 3>Jason, let's do a little bit of box office prediction because.

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<v Speaker 2>We gotta.

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<v Speaker 1>Jacob battle on Ned Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, sorry, sorry Ned Leeds. He's it's an a again.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm just out here handing out

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<v Speaker 2>as I think that he did. He's one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite characters. I've written about him a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>I got to interview him to ask him if he

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<v Speaker 3>ever wanted to be the Hobgoblin.

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<v Speaker 2>You know his namesake. He's a sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 3>I think they pay a lot of homage here to

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<v Speaker 3>the friendship, and I think I was worried he wouldn't

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<v Speaker 3>get his.

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<v Speaker 2>Time because the Tom Dayer stuff is so good.

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<v Speaker 3>But the movie ends on an emotional high note that

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<v Speaker 3>I just adored, and it doesn't work without Jacob, so

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's another age for me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's he's like, it's a three legged stool and he

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<v Speaker 1>is one of it's him, it's Tom, it's Zendia. You

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<v Speaker 1>need those three he's I agree. It's an A and

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<v Speaker 1>uh last two. We're just gonna do everybody that's in

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer. So the nice, nice, nice spoilers whatsoever. Mark Ruffalo.

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<v Speaker 2>Spanner, we love him, I mean I might.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's an A minus, not for any other

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<v Speaker 3>reason than just the other ones were so great, Like

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<v Speaker 3>he's amazing. But I will say I'm giving I'm giving

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Ruffalo a minus.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you, Mark, You're great actor.

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<v Speaker 4>But I'm giving the hulk at a plus. Baby, because

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<v Speaker 4>this is wow. I just can't even you've seen him

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<v Speaker 4>in the trailer, but you've got no idea. It's it's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been we dreamed of things like this.

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<v Speaker 1>Guys, it's a it's a while. I'm gonna give him

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<v Speaker 1>an A. I can't imagine the insurance issues when you're

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<v Speaker 1>hiring Bruce Banner to work at anything crazy. That said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just great, but it's just wonderful. And then finally,

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<v Speaker 1>mister Thomas Holland Peter Parker, Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 2>What about him?

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<v Speaker 3>What about that guy? It's an A plus. It's an

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<v Speaker 3>A plus if there was any justice in the world. Look, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get a hype. Don't say I'm saying anything crazy here,

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<v Speaker 3>because go and look at who's been nominated for Oscars

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<v Speaker 3>for terrible movies over the years, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't get on a hype.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if this is the kind of role where

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, give him a little norm give him a

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<v Speaker 3>little best support, give him a little Best Leading Actor

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<v Speaker 3>nom He's good. He should have got it for Endgame.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry when he says, I'm sorry, mister Stark, and

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<v Speaker 3>he gets that was impressive and cry worthy. People in

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<v Speaker 3>my screen and were crying, Jason, I was near the

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<v Speaker 3>front and they were crying.

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<v Speaker 2>Tomash was it was emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say one more thing. You know, Tom's he's

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<v Speaker 1>been doing the American accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, oh this is his best New York accent.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was it. As a New York it felt authentic.

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<v Speaker 2>The daite que popped off.

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<v Speaker 3>I did try and see their name in the credits

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<v Speaker 3>because the stuff between there is okay. Actually, as New

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<v Speaker 3>York had Jason what grade are you giving him? And

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<v Speaker 3>Burnt altogether New York because.

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<v Speaker 2>They do a lot of it.

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<v Speaker 1>That is a very It was a very authentic type

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<v Speaker 1>of conversations that you hear that you have in New York.

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<v Speaker 1>It was type of type of conversations, and I found

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<v Speaker 1>it very authentic. I thought they did it. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>they nailed It's a plus. Tom Holland, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>let's quickly rank the Spider Man movies and then send

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<v Speaker 1>people on their way to go see do you guess?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think it could be crazy. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>think we should guess.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think it could open as big as like

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<v Speaker 3>two hundred, because I think that I was about to.

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<v Speaker 1>Say crazy, I'm going to go to ten.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. I like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I like that you're rarely higher than me, So I

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<v Speaker 3>think I think you're onto something.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's well I.

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<v Speaker 2>Think it's going to be huge.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna be one eighty to two ten h.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's going to be a massive and I

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<v Speaker 3>think it could be a billion dollar I think it

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<v Speaker 3>could be because I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it will watch it. I think it will

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<v Speaker 1>be a billion dollar movie. The question is, like The Odyssey,

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<v Speaker 1>which opened big in China. Does Spiderman Brand New Day

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<v Speaker 1>open big in China? And I think it will.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it will too.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, the action, everything about it, it's it's so engaging,

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<v Speaker 3>it's so Kinnectic.

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<v Speaker 1>And Zendaya were over there doing a lot of promo.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom had to buy like a shirt or something because

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<v Speaker 1>it was He wasn't prepared for how hot it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, so he went into some Chinese retailer and

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<v Speaker 1>just like and was walking around the bag. It turned

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<v Speaker 1>the moment into a meme. It turned the bag into

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<v Speaker 1>like a like a street accessory.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say, a ticket item. Okay, Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like I.

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<v Speaker 1>Think this movie will make a billion dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, is Marvel back? It feels like baby baby Baby? Okay? Jason,

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<v Speaker 2>is you're ranking now of Spider Man movies? Post this?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Number one, Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that is the new number one. Number two for

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<v Speaker 3>me is Homecoming. I think it's great.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Number three Far from Well number and then

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<v Speaker 1>number three is Spider Man Far from Home.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then four is you know, the European Vacation.

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<v Speaker 3>It's cute, but it's not the other ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think you're right, Jason.

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<v Speaker 3>And when we get into the spoilers, guys, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>be able to talk a lot more. But just tonally,

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<v Speaker 3>maturity wise, there are sequences in this that have really

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<v Speaker 3>would not be spoilers in another movie, but would be

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<v Speaker 3>in this that we can't tell you about. That just

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<v Speaker 3>so fucking emotionally incredible that they're gonna blow people away.

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<v Speaker 2>Whether or not they like the whole movie. Like this

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<v Speaker 2>movie has that juice.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say. I'll say another thing. Yes, this is the

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<v Speaker 1>first movie where I thought, if Tom was amenable, they

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<v Speaker 1>could make him new Tony.

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<v Speaker 3>It does seem like there could be a handover going on.

0:24:12.960 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>And Tom said he'll do it as long as they

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<v Speaker 2>have them.

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<v Speaker 1>He could, And in the in the comics, Peter was

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<v Speaker 1>indeed like a acolyte of Tony. Tony was his mentor

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<v Speaker 1>in a lot of ways. It was a very Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was the kind of relationship where Peter really looked

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<v Speaker 1>up to Tony but then saw him in a different light,

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<v Speaker 1>and there is like a feeling of betrayal but obviously

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<v Speaker 1>too extremely talented, almost gus, you know, genius level to

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<v Speaker 1>super genius level like scientists, Like obviously Tony is is

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<v Speaker 1>a cut above, but Peter is progressing in that regard.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was really I felt like if they could

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<v Speaker 1>get him to agree, he could fill that Tony I

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<v Speaker 1>total role the guy who like, okay, get all the

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<v Speaker 1>geniuses together and it's red and it's whoever is black

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<v Speaker 1>panther now a new black panther and it's Peter Parker.

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<v Speaker 1>He would have an trust this thing and figure it out.

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<v Speaker 3>He would have an ethical and moral heart that Tony

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<v Speaker 3>never had too, which I think we see here really well. Also, Guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I think that this. Yeah, I'm very excited to talk

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<v Speaker 3>more about you with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason. Anyway, and let's let's redo our ranking, because we

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<v Speaker 2>got far from home and the way home mixed up.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, yeah, okay, so let's rank right now the

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Holland Spider Man movies. I'm gonna go number one,

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<v Speaker 1>and do we agree on this? Number one is brand

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<v Speaker 1>new day.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I do think this is the new stand up bearer.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is Far from Home. It's you Homecoming, spider

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<v Speaker 1>Man Homecoming, the original Spider Man movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Number three.

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<v Speaker 1>For solo movie number.

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<v Speaker 3>Three, I would think it's got to be No Way Home,

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<v Speaker 3>which could also become number two depending on how I

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<v Speaker 3>feel some days.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's all three Spider Man, we love them. That

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<v Speaker 2>was obviously a fun one.

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<v Speaker 1>And then at the Botom and it's fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It's still fun. It's European vacation mystereo.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, more of a CEO needs to be still alive.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, Jason, the Marvel stocks are rising of the DC stocks.

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<v Speaker 1>So I didn't want to talk about it. I kept thinking,

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<v Speaker 1>I kept thinking. I was thinking throughout the film, like, fuck,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, here is Marvel.

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<v Speaker 2>But hey, we felt that way Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is their number one? You know you could argue

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<v Speaker 1>their number one character? Ever?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Transitioning into a huge team up movie, which is the

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<v Speaker 1>thing everybody wants to see. Who's the new Avengers team

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<v Speaker 1>and what threats are they facing? And Gunn took the

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<v Speaker 1>long way around, although he did release Superman and I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Last Yeah, it felt like DC was stocks were rising.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a crazy time in the real world. There's a

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<v Speaker 3>crazy time with the superhero world. I'm interested to see

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<v Speaker 3>where we end the year.

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<v Speaker 2>For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I will be interested as well. I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>everyone to see this movie. It's great. Yeah, go see it.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna love it.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are listening to this show, then you will.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the type of person who will enjoy this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and you go see it. Because there is a post

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<v Speaker 1>credits scene.

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<v Speaker 2>It's brief. Yeah, it's very brief.

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<v Speaker 3>It's more of like a fun nod, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>think it has big implications. So if you want to

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<v Speaker 3>sit around, there is one, but it's right right right

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<v Speaker 3>at the end. Sit around and see who they thank

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<v Speaker 3>in the special thanks. There's tons of our favorite comic

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<v Speaker 3>book creators and that it's always nice to watch. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>all the credits anyway, and see who made the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>On the next episode of Expert Vision, we're driving into

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<v Speaker 1>the week's biggest news and we'll have our reactions to

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<v Speaker 1>House the Dragon episode three or seven and our spoiler

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<v Speaker 1>filled Spider Man Table. That's it for this episode. The

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