Speaker 1: Warning, Today's episode will contain no spoilers, no spoilers for
Speaker 1: the new Spider Man movie Spider Man and Brand New Day.
Speaker 1: It may contain spoilers for other Marvel movies and other
Speaker 1: Spider Man movies. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcio and
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Speaker 2: In today's episode. Guys, they made us wait such a
Speaker 2: long time. It feels like it's badly real, but spider
Speaker 2: Man Brand New Day is here.
Speaker 3: We have seen it and we're going to tell you
Speaker 3: our spoiler free reactions. Don't worry, you know we will
Speaker 3: be coming with those spoilers next week.
Speaker 2: We will have a more in depth look at.
Speaker 3: The movie on Wednesday for our spider Man Brand New
Speaker 3: Day Roundtable that will be filled with spoilers, easter eggs,
Speaker 3: all those breakdowns.
Speaker 2: You want to know, But we want to give everyone
Speaker 2: a chance.
Speaker 3: To see it, so for now, this is all spoiler
Speaker 3: free reactions to spider Man Brand New Day.
Speaker 1: Okay, spider Man, Brand New Day, we saw it at
Speaker 1: a extremely packed screening.
Speaker 2: Who talk about that line?
Speaker 1: I prove that, I will. That felt to me like
Speaker 1: they were trying to create a little bit of false
Speaker 1: scarcity and hypeen by because you know, it's if you
Speaker 1: are SVP, you should have a seat, and it should
Speaker 1: be very easy to do that, but they made it
Speaker 1: like listen, if you don't come in time, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna see I got there at half an hour before
Speaker 1: the screening.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 1: The line at the AMC at the Grove, one of
Speaker 1: my favorite places see a movie, went from the lobby
Speaker 1: up the stairs next to the factory, round the fucking
Speaker 1: perimeter of the upstairs, and then back down the stairs.
Speaker 1: I've never seen anything like this for screening.
Speaker 3: It was busier than my end game screening, which I think, yes,
Speaker 3: was very smart of them. Now I will say, Jason,
Speaker 3: I believe you are correct.
Speaker 1: My end Games screening was at the Cinerama Dome, which, oh.
Speaker 2: My god, that's unreal.
Speaker 3: My endgame screening was on the Disney lot, but the
Speaker 3: que which we did still have to queue.
Speaker 2: In, was not that long.
Speaker 3: So what I did notice is they basically just they
Speaker 3: made sure the screens were clear and then they didn't
Speaker 3: let anyone until like seven fifteen, so it looked really
Speaker 3: impressive and crazy, and I'm not gonna lie. It did
Speaker 3: make people start going, oh okay, so I know that
Speaker 3: last night they did invite hundreds of press, like I
Speaker 3: got an official number on how many.
Speaker 2: So it was it's good. They think it's good.
Speaker 3: They also know it's going to get people talking, so
Speaker 3: it's like, get people in now, Jason, is it good?
Speaker 1: I will tell you, And I think this will be
Speaker 1: an uncontroversial statement. I think it's the best Spider Man
Speaker 1: movie easily, kind of easily the best one.
Speaker 2: It is so.
Speaker 3: Much of the classic Peter Parker Spider Man story.
Speaker 2: It is down on his luck Peter. It is emo Peter.
Speaker 2: It is Peter who.
Speaker 3: Doesn't have a support network the whole way through the movie.
Speaker 3: And yet I will say the way that they managed
Speaker 3: to still build in the relationship with MJ with Ned
Speaker 3: it works so well, and it pays homage to the
Speaker 3: two characters and does not cut out the two actors
Speaker 3: Ned who have bought Ned an MJ to life all
Speaker 3: this time, even though nobody knows who Peter is.
Speaker 1: Here is the rule that I came up with watching
Speaker 1: this movie last night, and of course, you know coming
Speaker 1: in from Far from Home, recall, nobody remembers who Peter is,
Speaker 1: his best friends Ned and MJ, his love of his life,
Speaker 1: MJ and does not remember him. Nobody remembers Peter Parker,
Speaker 1: remembers who he is. They know who Spider Man is,
Speaker 1: they don't remember. Watching this movie last night, I was like,
Speaker 1: I think every I think it should be a rule,
Speaker 1: every Marvel and Gun should steal this for as long
Speaker 1: as every comic book movie needs to have a couple
Speaker 1: in real life that is actually fucking.
Speaker 2: Are there because the chemist.
Speaker 1: Their chemistry is just you can't as you can fake
Speaker 1: what they do.
Speaker 3: No, there's a sequence that is not particularly you know,
Speaker 3: narratively heavy, but it's very emotionally but yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: And there is this sequence where they're between a sheet.
Speaker 3: Again not a narrative thing, just like a visual thing.
Speaker 3: It is so unbelievable, and the smiles and.
Speaker 2: The glittering eye make it.
Speaker 3: This is really great chemistry and those two it is
Speaker 3: tom daya summer and you know what they deserve it
Speaker 3: If people didn't believe they had the juice after the Oscars,
Speaker 3: I mean, after the Odyssey, you know that wasn't mea Jason,
Speaker 3: but sub questioned it.
Speaker 2: I think this is unquestionable star power.
Speaker 3: You know, this is big, I think than a Brad Pitt,
Speaker 3: Angelina Jolie, because these kids are young, like these are
Speaker 3: stars made of their own.
Speaker 1: Well, that was a home wrecking stitution, right.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. There was a salacious.
Speaker 3: Tabloid element that made them the most famous couple in
Speaker 3: the world. But Tom Daya is out here just that
Speaker 3: every premiere, every movie, you know. I think they each
Speaker 3: had three movies a year this year or something crazy.
Speaker 3: It is an astonishing kind of proof of how good
Speaker 3: the two of them are together, and also how good
Speaker 3: Holland is in this role.
Speaker 2: He and Jason.
Speaker 3: I want to say, I'm gonna I'm gonna talk about
Speaker 3: another great role in this which some people might be
Speaker 3: surprised to him me say, because guess what. Sometimes he
Speaker 3: annoys me. His name's John Burnthor we all know him,
Speaker 3: we all love him. The Punisher representation. Is it complicated? Yes?
Speaker 2: Did I hate one Last Kill?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, he is so incredible and him and
Speaker 2: Tom together the way, I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 3: It's a I'm not gonna lie as well. If you
Speaker 3: like one Last Kill and you like that Frank, he
Speaker 3: is that Frank. And it is all about with that context,
Speaker 3: how Peter does not agree with what Frank does. And
Speaker 3: then it becomes about what is heroism? What is it
Speaker 3: to be a hero? What is it to stand up
Speaker 3: for someone? And also what is it to have a
Speaker 3: friend as a man and.
Speaker 2: What does that look like?
Speaker 3: And oh my god, Jason, they're so fucking good together,
Speaker 3: holland Don Thole in this it's pure comic book.
Speaker 1: It's a great odd couple pairing. They play off each
Speaker 1: other wonderfully. It's just it really really worked. And then
Speaker 1: the next thing I'll say is I mean, this is
Speaker 1: the other thing I was thinking throughout. I'm like, fuck,
Speaker 1: Marvel still got it. They still got it. It's this
Speaker 1: is now ten years eleven years since the debut of
Speaker 1: the character in Captain America Civil War, nine years since
Speaker 1: Spider and Homecoming, the first Spider Man movie, And this
Speaker 1: is like, Marvel can the Spider Man movies are good,
Speaker 1: full stop? They're good, but to ten years in do
Speaker 1: the best one?
Speaker 2: This is this is okay, let me add a hack coup?
Speaker 3: Is this a Sony Marvel combination situation, because it doesn't
Speaker 3: seem you know, it doesn't seem like Marvel can do
Speaker 3: when they don't have Spider Man right now. You know, now,
Speaker 3: right now, but this is right now.
Speaker 2: But this is proof.
Speaker 3: I think, like one, I don't think this is gonna
Speaker 3: be a controversial take after this movie.
Speaker 2: I think Marvel is gonna be.
Speaker 3: Regretting taking Destin off the Avengers Double Bill. I think
Speaker 3: he should have been on Doomsday. I think he should
Speaker 3: have been on Secret Wars. He makes a fucking big
Speaker 3: argument that he should be the auta here.
Speaker 2: If you're talking about how.
Speaker 3: The guys from Community aka the Russo Brothers kind of
Speaker 3: shook up Hollywood when they came in and they made
Speaker 3: of and they did their Captain America, they did their Avengers,
Speaker 3: they did all of this stuff right.
Speaker 2: They made Oh it's huge. It's the biggest movies in
Speaker 2: the world.
Speaker 3: Guess what, bro That is what you come out of
Speaker 3: feeling this like the action in this The way that
Speaker 3: Deston and his crew were able to translate the really
Speaker 3: slick yet frenetic action of the Insomniac video game to
Speaker 3: the screen is incredibly surreal, especially because a lot of
Speaker 3: times you can see it as a person in a suit,
Speaker 3: so it does not feel like you're watching a video cutscene.
Speaker 2: And I think that really helps.
Speaker 1: Yeah, really, it really humanized it. And we were talking
Speaker 1: about this before we started rolling. You know, Marvel had
Speaker 1: been criticized in the past for the way their movies looked.
Speaker 1: The color grading was very slick and a little shiny.
Speaker 1: The shadows were you know, really kind of like crushed.
Speaker 1: It just was a very visible it, yeah, like very visible,
Speaker 1: very smy very color contrasty kind of look, very modern look,
Speaker 1: I guess his digital kind of look. And Spider Around
Speaker 1: Brand New Day and Thunderbolts before it. It really does
Speaker 1: seem like the directors who are who have come in
Speaker 1: in this kind of transitional period having fits and starts
Speaker 1: trying to move away from that look. I thought, I
Speaker 1: thought Thunderbolts looked great, and this movie looks.
Speaker 2: Like this looks bad.
Speaker 1: It's a shot on Kodak. I mean, it looks it
Speaker 1: looked I just you know, we talked about The Invite,
Speaker 1: a movie that was very loudly shot on analog film,
Speaker 1: thirty five millimeter film, and while and and this film
Speaker 1: has that look. It just has that richness that kind
Speaker 1: of like texture to it that fits New York so well.
Speaker 1: Although there's a wonderful, yeah, like b roll sequence in
Speaker 1: this movie that's just New York that looks incredible.
Speaker 3: And even yeah, I mean the credits you will fit like.
Speaker 3: It's really interesting because Tom Holand's been saying, oh, you'll
Speaker 3: know why it's brand new day at the end of
Speaker 3: the movie, right. But ironically, like even the credits, b
Speaker 3: roll of New York is kind of a it's this
Speaker 3: idea of just like New York's always gonna be New York,
Speaker 3: it's always gonna keep going, right.
Speaker 2: So the colorist is actually.
Speaker 3: Tom Poole, who if you have seen Drive, you've seen
Speaker 3: his work, and this.
Speaker 2: Movie it makes sense. Yeah, it's got that drive look.
Speaker 3: There's these great dark, moody moments, but there's these colorful sheines.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's this great sequence of him just kind of.
Speaker 3: Swinging through the rain, a really moody moment, and that
Speaker 3: is just so fantastic. He was a colorist on bloomin Eck.
Speaker 3: Like so many things, it's looks so good.
Speaker 1: Drive was also also had a analog look shot on digital,
Speaker 1: and man, they really translated that. You know, it's not.
Speaker 1: It doesn't go full like a twenty four Deep Shadows
Speaker 1: look where you're like, is this a drama? But it
Speaker 1: also sands down that kind of shiny comic book look
Speaker 1: in a way that just underlines where Peter is in
Speaker 1: this movie, in his life and to your point at
Speaker 1: the start of this this is kind of the mode
Speaker 1: that the most iconic Peter Parker stories and habit. He's
Speaker 1: living on his own, he is throwing himself his work,
Speaker 1: he's laid on rent, he's just kind of like scuffling along,
Speaker 1: and he's ultimately a lonely guy, and it's great. I
Speaker 1: don't want to talk about the other characters that show
Speaker 1: up in this, but I think another triumph, Yes, the performances, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well another triumph I want to say of Marvel. Marvel's
Speaker 1: been doing this throughout, but you know, late stage Marvel,
Speaker 1: throughout the difficulties. I really appreciate the way that this
Speaker 1: movie leaned on the wider universe and just kind of
Speaker 1: opened the frame so that other characters, other groups that
Speaker 1: have been established throughout Marvel are just kind of there
Speaker 1: and they just kind of like walk in and out.
Speaker 2: And do you really feel that makes sense? Yeah?
Speaker 1: You feel that wider world in this and it's great, cool,
Speaker 1: and it just it just feels great. Marvel still got it.
Speaker 1: They still got it in moments like this.
Speaker 3: It's giving comic book movie in a way that they
Speaker 3: haven't for a while, whether it is the Punisher Spider
Speaker 3: Man relationship, whether it is the kind of wondering cost
Speaker 3: of characters because it's sat New York, we've always said
Speaker 3: that right like who else might be there? And also
Speaker 3: as well, I think the way that they managed to
Speaker 3: introduce a lot of really key figures and key performances
Speaker 3: here in a way that just really works. They did
Speaker 3: a great job with the cost. They're bringing in a
Speaker 3: lot of character actors here. They're making sure that these
Speaker 3: are going to be characters people remember, even if they're
Speaker 3: in small roles, which I think is really good. Jason,
Speaker 3: let's do some grading. Uh John barnth or what are
Speaker 3: you grading him?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm going to give him an A
Speaker 1: minus to it to it A I think I was fantastic.
Speaker 1: The contrast with Peter helps bring out what makes Peter
Speaker 1: special in an and and like a mirror image that
Speaker 1: brings out Peter, brings out the rough edges and the
Speaker 1: things about Frank that make him unique in a really
Speaker 1: interesting way. They both help each other, oh and develop
Speaker 1: each other in a way that's like really nice.
Speaker 2: More character development for the Punisher than we've.
Speaker 1: Ever and he's he's he's great. Seriously, this is like
Speaker 1: the most character development ever for the punish and he's
Speaker 1: great in this. I'm gonna give him an A.
Speaker 2: I agree he's getting an A from.
Speaker 1: Me, A minus Zindaia mj Yep, it's an A plus
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 2: She's getting She's doing a lot.
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, we can't really get into it, but she's
Speaker 3: doing so much you're gonna love it.
Speaker 2: It's as Zenda as end. I think even a boo
Speaker 2: will like this one.
Speaker 1: They leap off the screen. They it's it's just insane.
Speaker 3: Okay, Jason, we can't say anything, really, but we can say,
Speaker 3: what would you grade Sadie sinc Does she bring something
Speaker 3: good to this movie?
Speaker 2: It's her performance.
Speaker 3: I'm giving her in a She's she has the juice.
Speaker 3: We said she had the juice has and she has
Speaker 3: the juice. No one's questioning it. Particularly think her and
Speaker 3: Tom Holand are very good together. I'm very excited to
Speaker 3: see more of that going.
Speaker 2: Forward, have the juice Juice Juice?
Speaker 3: Could she Jason, Could Sadie sinc be a major part
Speaker 3: of the MCU going forward if she needs to be, Yes.
Speaker 1: Well, I think it has to be with the way
Speaker 1: she's introducing this movie. But I'll say this, this is
Speaker 1: not a spoiler because there's no suggestion of this in
Speaker 1: the film.
Speaker 2: M But.
Speaker 1: You know that Figy in particular is like, ooh love Triangle.
Speaker 3: No, he is, No, I'm telling you this is not
Speaker 3: a spoiler. But the chemistry is real. The experiences that
Speaker 3: they are going through here interesting red hat.
Speaker 1: No one is saying it's that's not a spoiler.
Speaker 2: We're just shippers who can't help it.
Speaker 3: The chemistry is that she definitely gets an a. I
Speaker 3: think it's going to be another breakout performance for her
Speaker 3: if you loved her in the Whale. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: think Figy's thinking that for sure, and also as well,
Speaker 3: watching this the whole time, you know we can't help it.
Speaker 2: And I will say that's how.
Speaker 3: I know the movie was like engrossing an action packed
Speaker 3: because my my critic MCU commentator brain wasn't on the
Speaker 3: whole time like a lot of it. I did just
Speaker 3: get sucked in like I was a kid, especially the Punisher,
Speaker 3: Spider Man stuff. Same, but I was whenever she was
Speaker 3: on screen, I was like, okay, okay, okay, she's got it.
Speaker 3: Like I was like my my critic brain was coming back,
Speaker 3: and it was like, okay, So if they did need her,
Speaker 3: so if they wanted her to lead stuff, like could
Speaker 3: she yeah? No, question like this is this could be
Speaker 3: the future of the MCU, just just this cost.
Speaker 2: But we know it won't be because the MCU is huge.
Speaker 2: That's the point of it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean I will say, I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I need to watch the movie. Yeah, back was Amy
Speaker 1: Pascal's name as big in the credits as it was
Speaker 1: in this movie beforehand. But she deserves it, baby, Aby,
Speaker 1: you did it.
Speaker 3: Jason, let's do a little bit of box office prediction because.
Speaker 2: We gotta.
Speaker 1: Jacob battle on Ned Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Sorry, sorry, sorry Ned Leeds. He's it's an a again.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. I'm like, I'm just out here handing out
Speaker 2: as I think that he did. He's one of my
Speaker 2: favorite characters. I've written about him a lot.
Speaker 3: I got to interview him to ask him if he
Speaker 3: ever wanted to be the Hobgoblin.
Speaker 2: You know his namesake. He's a sweetheart.
Speaker 3: I think they pay a lot of homage here to
Speaker 3: the friendship, and I think I was worried he wouldn't
Speaker 3: get his.
Speaker 2: Time because the Tom Dayer stuff is so good.
Speaker 3: But the movie ends on an emotional high note that
Speaker 3: I just adored, and it doesn't work without Jacob, so
Speaker 3: I think it's another age for me.
Speaker 1: He's he's like, it's a three legged stool and he
Speaker 1: is one of it's him, it's Tom, it's Zendia. You
Speaker 1: need those three he's I agree. It's an A and
Speaker 1: uh last two. We're just gonna do everybody that's in
Speaker 1: the trailer. So the nice, nice, nice spoilers whatsoever. Mark Ruffalo.
Speaker 2: Spanner, we love him, I mean I might.
Speaker 3: I think it's an A minus, not for any other
Speaker 3: reason than just the other ones were so great, Like
Speaker 3: he's amazing. But I will say I'm giving I'm giving
Speaker 3: Mark Ruffalo a minus.
Speaker 2: I love you, Mark, You're great actor.
Speaker 4: But I'm giving the hulk at a plus. Baby, because
Speaker 4: this is wow. I just can't even you've seen him
Speaker 4: in the trailer, but you've got no idea. It's it's crazy.
Speaker 4: We've been we dreamed of things like this.
Speaker 1: Guys, it's a it's a while. I'm gonna give him
Speaker 1: an A. I can't imagine the insurance issues when you're
Speaker 1: hiring Bruce Banner to work at anything crazy. That said,
Speaker 1: it's just great, but it's just wonderful. And then finally,
Speaker 1: mister Thomas Holland Peter Parker, Spider Man.
Speaker 2: What about him?
Speaker 3: What about that guy? It's an A plus. It's an
Speaker 3: A plus if there was any justice in the world. Look, guys,
Speaker 3: don't get a hype. Don't say I'm saying anything crazy here,
Speaker 3: because go and look at who's been nominated for Oscars
Speaker 3: for terrible movies over the years, right.
Speaker 2: So don't get on a hype.
Speaker 3: I think if this is the kind of role where
Speaker 3: I'm like, give him a little norm give him a
Speaker 3: little best support, give him a little Best Leading Actor
Speaker 3: nom He's good. He should have got it for Endgame.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry when he says, I'm sorry, mister Stark, and
Speaker 3: he gets that was impressive and cry worthy. People in
Speaker 3: my screen and were crying, Jason, I was near the
Speaker 3: front and they were crying.
Speaker 2: Tomash was it was emotion.
Speaker 1: And I'll say one more thing. You know, Tom's he's
Speaker 1: been doing the American accent.
Speaker 2: Now, oh this is his best New York accent.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was it. As a New York it felt authentic.
Speaker 2: The daite que popped off.
Speaker 3: I did try and see their name in the credits
Speaker 3: because the stuff between there is okay. Actually, as New
Speaker 3: York had Jason what grade are you giving him? And
Speaker 3: Burnt altogether New York because.
Speaker 2: They do a lot of it.
Speaker 1: That is a very It was a very authentic type
Speaker 1: of conversations that you hear that you have in New York.
Speaker 1: It was type of type of conversations, and I found
Speaker 1: it very authentic. I thought they did it. I thought
Speaker 1: they nailed It's a plus. Tom Holland, I think it's
Speaker 1: let's quickly rank the Spider Man movies and then send
Speaker 1: people on their way to go see do you guess?
Speaker 2: Because I think it could be crazy. I think I
Speaker 2: think we should guess.
Speaker 3: Okay, I think it could open as big as like
Speaker 3: two hundred, because I think that I was about to.
Speaker 1: Say crazy, I'm going to go to ten.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 2: I like that. I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that you're rarely higher than me, So I
Speaker 3: think I think you're onto something.
Speaker 1: I think it's well I.
Speaker 2: Think it's going to be huge.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be one eighty to two ten h.
Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a massive and I
Speaker 3: think it could be a billion dollar I think it
Speaker 3: could be because I think.
Speaker 1: I think it will watch it. I think it will
Speaker 1: be a billion dollar movie. The question is, like The Odyssey,
Speaker 1: which opened big in China. Does Spiderman Brand New Day
Speaker 1: open big in China? And I think it will.
Speaker 2: I think it will too.
Speaker 3: I mean, the action, everything about it, it's it's so engaging,
Speaker 3: it's so Kinnectic.
Speaker 1: And Zendaya were over there doing a lot of promo.
Speaker 1: Tom had to buy like a shirt or something because
Speaker 1: it was He wasn't prepared for how hot it was.
Speaker 1: I think, so he went into some Chinese retailer and
Speaker 1: just like and was walking around the bag. It turned
Speaker 1: the moment into a meme. It turned the bag into
Speaker 1: like a like a street accessory.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, a ticket item. Okay, Yeah, that
Speaker 2: sounds like I.
Speaker 1: Think this movie will make a billion dollars?
Speaker 2: Okay, is Marvel back? It feels like baby baby Baby? Okay? Jason,
Speaker 2: is you're ranking now of Spider Man movies? Post this?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: Number one, Uh.
Speaker 3: Yes, that is the new number one. Number two for
Speaker 3: me is Homecoming. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: That's right. Number three Far from Well number and then
Speaker 1: number three is Spider Man Far from Home.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then four is you know, the European Vacation.
Speaker 3: It's cute, but it's not the other ones.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I think you're right, Jason.
Speaker 3: And when we get into the spoilers, guys, we're gonna
Speaker 3: be able to talk a lot more. But just tonally,
Speaker 3: maturity wise, there are sequences in this that have really
Speaker 3: would not be spoilers in another movie, but would be
Speaker 3: in this that we can't tell you about. That just
Speaker 3: so fucking emotionally incredible that they're gonna blow people away.
Speaker 2: Whether or not they like the whole movie. Like this
Speaker 2: movie has that juice.
Speaker 1: I'll say. I'll say another thing. Yes, this is the
Speaker 1: first movie where I thought, if Tom was amenable, they
Speaker 1: could make him new Tony.
Speaker 3: It does seem like there could be a handover going on.
Speaker 2: And Tom said he'll do it as long as they
Speaker 2: have them.
Speaker 1: He could, And in the in the comics, Peter was
Speaker 1: indeed like a acolyte of Tony. Tony was his mentor
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. It was a very Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was the kind of relationship where Peter really looked
Speaker 1: up to Tony but then saw him in a different light,
Speaker 1: and there is like a feeling of betrayal but obviously
Speaker 1: too extremely talented, almost gus, you know, genius level to
Speaker 1: super genius level like scientists, Like obviously Tony is is
Speaker 1: a cut above, but Peter is progressing in that regard.
Speaker 1: And it was really I felt like if they could
Speaker 1: get him to agree, he could fill that Tony I
Speaker 1: total role the guy who like, okay, get all the
Speaker 1: geniuses together and it's red and it's whoever is black
Speaker 1: panther now a new black panther and it's Peter Parker.
Speaker 1: He would have an trust this thing and figure it out.
Speaker 3: He would have an ethical and moral heart that Tony
Speaker 3: never had too, which I think we see here really well. Also, Guys,
Speaker 3: I think that this. Yeah, I'm very excited to talk
Speaker 3: more about you with this.
Speaker 2: Jason. Anyway, and let's let's redo our ranking, because we
Speaker 2: got far from home and the way home mixed up.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, okay, so let's rank right now the
Speaker 1: Tom Holland Spider Man movies. I'm gonna go number one,
Speaker 1: and do we agree on this? Number one is brand
Speaker 1: new day.
Speaker 2: Yes, I do think this is the new stand up bearer.
Speaker 1: Number two is Far from Home. It's you Homecoming, spider
Speaker 1: Man Homecoming, the original Spider Man movie.
Speaker 2: Number three.
Speaker 1: For solo movie number.
Speaker 3: Three, I would think it's got to be No Way Home,
Speaker 3: which could also become number two depending on how I
Speaker 3: feel some days.
Speaker 2: But that's all three Spider Man, we love them. That
Speaker 2: was obviously a fun one.
Speaker 1: And then at the Botom and it's fun.
Speaker 2: It's still fun. It's European vacation mystereo.
Speaker 1: But yeah, more of a CEO needs to be still alive.
Speaker 3: Oh, Jason, the Marvel stocks are rising of the DC stocks.
Speaker 1: So I didn't want to talk about it. I kept thinking,
Speaker 1: I kept thinking. I was thinking throughout the film, like, fuck,
Speaker 1: you know, here is Marvel.
Speaker 2: But hey, we felt that way Spider Man.
Speaker 1: Who is their number one? You know you could argue
Speaker 1: their number one character? Ever?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: Transitioning into a huge team up movie, which is the
Speaker 1: thing everybody wants to see. Who's the new Avengers team
Speaker 1: and what threats are they facing? And Gunn took the
Speaker 1: long way around, although he did release Superman and I
Speaker 1: wonder I know.
Speaker 3: Last Yeah, it felt like DC was stocks were rising.
Speaker 3: It's a crazy time in the real world. There's a
Speaker 3: crazy time with the superhero world. I'm interested to see
Speaker 3: where we end the year.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: I will be interested as well. I can't wait for
Speaker 1: everyone to see this movie. It's great. Yeah, go see it.
Speaker 2: You're gonna love it.
Speaker 1: If you are listening to this show, then you will.
Speaker 1: You're the type of person who will enjoy this movie,
Speaker 1: and you go see it. Because there is a post
Speaker 1: credits scene.
Speaker 2: It's brief. Yeah, it's very brief.
Speaker 3: It's more of like a fun nod, but I do
Speaker 3: think it has big implications. So if you want to
Speaker 3: sit around, there is one, but it's right right right
Speaker 3: at the end. Sit around and see who they thank
Speaker 3: in the special thanks. There's tons of our favorite comic
Speaker 3: book creators and that it's always nice to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 3: all the credits anyway, and see who made the movie.
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