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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Did he dope?

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Speaker 2: Did Sean Combs force his staff to stash pink cocaine?

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Speaker 2: Twenty four seven? Well he wasn't using it at all,

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Speaker 2: so who was he giving it too?

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Speaker 3: Or slipping it?

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Speaker 4: To this?

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Speaker 2: As more sex assaults emerge, joining us tonight, high profile

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Speaker 2: lawyer representing an alleged victim, Lisa Bloom, I'm Nancy Grace,

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Speaker 2: this is Crime Stories.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for being with us.

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Speaker 5: Sean Diddy Combs appears in front of new judge Arun

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Speaker 5: Subramani and wearing tan jail clothes and a huge grin.

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Speaker 5: The mogul seems to be in good spirits. One reporter

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Speaker 5: asks Agniphilo what the roughest part of prison is. Agnifilo's

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Speaker 5: short and shocking response the food.

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Speaker 2: As the claims of brutal rapes and sex assaults emerge,

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Speaker 2: let me show you a clip from TikTok and It's

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Speaker 2: coming at a really awkward time for Sean Puffy Combs

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Speaker 2: ak A Diddy aka Love It's Sean Combs reportedly apparently

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Speaker 2: asking a twelve year old little girl to party at

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Speaker 2: an after party with an after party to moth okay,

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Speaker 2: you know my longtime colleague and friend Lisa Bloom joining us.

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Speaker 2: You know, Lisa, sometimes you have to search and search

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Speaker 2: and search for evidence. You got to beat the bushes,

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Speaker 2: you got to bam on doors, jump out from behind

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Speaker 2: cars to catch a witness with a subpoena in your hand.

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Speaker 2: And then sometimes things just fall in your lap, like

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Speaker 2: that TikTok video.

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Speaker 3: Did you see that? Hold on, Lisa, let's watch it

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Speaker 3: one more time.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is surrounding MTV Awards and you see back

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Speaker 2: in I believe two thousand and three, the MTV Movie Awards, Combs.

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Speaker 6: Coming out the party along.

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Speaker 3: That's where our friends at MTV.

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Speaker 2: That's just one of those things that just happen in life,

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Speaker 2: Lisa Bloom. Really, now, think about it, Lisa. Think about

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Speaker 2: every grown man in your life. Would one of them

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Speaker 2: walk up to a twelve year old little girl, They

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Speaker 2: might say, well, are you a pretty girl? What are

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Speaker 2: you going to be when you grow up?

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Speaker 7: Not?

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Speaker 3: Hey, babe, you want to go with me to an

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Speaker 3: MTV after party?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, this is really sick, Nancy, And you're right. Video

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Speaker 6: evidence is always so important to jury's We saw the

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Speaker 6: Cassie Ventura video where he's beating.

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Speaker 8: Her in a hallway, kicking her, dragging her.

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Speaker 6: And I think a lot of people's minds about who

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Speaker 6: Sean Combs is, and my client Don Richard alleges that

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Speaker 6: behind the scenes, he was brutal, he was threatening, he

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Speaker 6: was violent, and a lot of people were really forced

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Speaker 6: into sexual activity or tricked into it or drugged into it.

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Speaker 8: Against their will.

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Speaker 2: Donna Schard is one of Lisa Bloom's clients who was

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Speaker 2: making allegations against Shawn Combs, now under federal indictment and

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Speaker 2: sitting in the MDCCI Correctional Institute. Let me ask you this, Lisa,

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Speaker 2: you have intimated, or it's been interpreted that you intimated.

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Speaker 2: I doubt very seriously you would drop a hint. You

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Speaker 2: didn't intend to drop that. Your client, Don Rochard is

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Speaker 2: actually the anonymous accuser named as anonymous, and the federal

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Speaker 2: indictment against Shawn Combs is she.

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Speaker 6: No, I did not hint at that. Some websites had

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Speaker 6: headlines about that, but no. What I did say was

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Speaker 6: that she will fully cooperate with the Feds if and

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Speaker 6: when they want to talk to her. This is not

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Speaker 6: just about money for her. This is not just about

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Speaker 6: a civil case. It's about justice, accountability, and if they

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Speaker 6: want to talk to her, she is perfectly happy.

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Speaker 2: To talk to What is the crux of Don Rochard's story,

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Speaker 2: Lisa Blame.

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Speaker 8: It's a sad story.

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Speaker 6: Don Richard, for those who don't know her, is a

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Speaker 8: She's got millions of social media followers. She's on tour

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Speaker 6: And in two thousand and four she tried out for

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Speaker 6: making the band. She was selected. She was in the

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Speaker 8: That she was owned, she was exploited, she.

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Speaker 6: Was locked in a car, locked in a hotel room, groped, grabbed,

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Speaker 6: She saw a lot of physical violence.

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Speaker 8: She was warned the victim of violence. She ever complained.

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Speaker 6: She tried to speak up for other women who she

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Speaker 2: Now, Lisa, this ties in directly to claims that Sean

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Speaker 2: Puffy Comb's aka Diddy should not be released on vond

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Speaker 2: And you know the defense of her are not going

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Speaker 2: him out on bond, which is a grave mistake, because

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Speaker 2: Mark my words, he will leave the country. He's staring

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Speaker 2: on the wrong end of a barrel with this federal indictment.

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Speaker 2: And you know the fads, Lisa, if they don't get

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Speaker 2: him on rape, they will get him on a gun charge.

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Speaker 3: There's really no question. All that is is this your home?

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Speaker 9: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Was this gun in your home? Yes?

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Speaker 2: Case closed? And he's looking at fifteen and two hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars fine, So he's going to run

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Speaker 2: if he gets a chance. You say, Lisa Bloom, that

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Speaker 2: your client, Don Richard knows that witnesses can be intimidated

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Speaker 2: not just by Sean Comes, but by his hitch people

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Speaker 2: that somehow are still loyal to him.

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Speaker 8: Well, this is how he got away with it over

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Speaker 8: the years.

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Speaker 6: And Nancy, I'm so glad that you raised this issue

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Speaker 6: of bail because our case came up in the bail

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Speaker 6: hearing the prosecutor said that he tampered with a witness

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Speaker 6: in my case.

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Speaker 8: And briefly, what happened was we.

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Speaker 6: Filed our civil complaint a week before the government's criminal

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Speaker 6: complaint that came later. That really was strikingly similar to

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Speaker 6: our case. But after we filed our complaint, only one

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Speaker 6: person came out publicly and trashed my client, Don Richard,

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Speaker 6: and said she was lying. Well, the government was tapping

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Speaker 6: mister Combs's phone, and the government said it his bail hearing,

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Speaker 6: he had over one hundred contacts with this woman who

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Speaker 6: and when she came out publicly against Don Richard, and

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Speaker 6: then after she came out publicly, there were zero contacts.

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Speaker 6: So the strong implication is that he convinced her or

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Speaker 6: evidence in my case, and that was one of the

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Speaker 6: primary reasons why the judge said you're not getting bail,

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Speaker 6: mister Colmbs, because we don't want you tampering with witnesses.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me break down.

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Speaker 2: I'm drink from the fire hydrant here with Lisa Bloom,

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Speaker 2: who is representing yet another alleged victim of Shawncms. We're

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Speaker 2: going to get to the pink cocaine in just a

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Speaker 2: moment and the new alleged child victims of Shawn Combs. Lisa,

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Speaker 2: let me understand what you're saying, you are saying that

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Speaker 2: people intimidate witnesses and that has proven by did you say,

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Speaker 2: over one hundred phone calls to whom about what?

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Speaker 8: So he wasn't behind bars yet. This was before he

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Speaker 6: The government says that he had over one hundred contacts

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Speaker 6: and accused my client of lying, and the government says

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Speaker 6: that is evidence of witness tampering. By the way, he's

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Speaker 6: accused of doing this personally, not through a henchman. And

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Speaker 6: he knew his phone was tapped because on a phone call,

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Speaker 6: according to the government.

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Speaker 8: He said, my phone is tapped. I can't see very much.

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Speaker 2: Oh dear lord Lisa, Lisa, how many times have you

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Speaker 2: either participated in a case as the lawyer or we

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Speaker 2: covered it together at court TV or since where somebody's like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: phones are probably tapped, but I did it. They know,

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Speaker 2: the Feds or the jail or whoever is listening.

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Speaker 3: Are they that arrogant? I know they're not stupid, But

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Speaker 3: why did he do it? Lisa?

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Speaker 6: Well, they are you know, we always say, Nancy, they

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Speaker 6: have the right to remain silent, but not the ability.

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Speaker 8: And some people just can't help themselves.

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Speaker 6: And listen, we know that the government found a lot

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Speaker 6: of drugs in his hotel room. Maybe he was on drugs,

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Speaker 6: Maybe he was just high on his own ego. Maybe

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Speaker 6: he thought he would get away with it because he's

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Speaker 6: gotten away with so much for so long. But it's

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Speaker 6: all crashing down on him now, isn't it okay?

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Speaker 3: Thank ineda shrink.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining US high profile psycho analyst out

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Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills, author of deal Breaker, and you can

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Speaker 2: see her now on Peacock Doctor Bethany. I know Combs

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Speaker 2: is not stupid. He's reputedly a billionaire. He didn't get

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Speaker 2: that by just falling off the turnip truck. So why

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Speaker 2: do they continue to blab on the phone when they

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Speaker 2: know obviously the fans are tapping them.

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Speaker 4: Well, I love your use of the word arrogance, because

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Speaker 4: they do feel that they're above the law.

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Speaker 8: Nancy.

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Speaker 4: People who have traits of sociopathy and sex addiction notoriously

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Speaker 4: become paranoid and anxious as they're about to be caught,

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Speaker 4: But all the lead up to being caught. They really

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Speaker 4: don't think anything bad is going to happen to them,

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Speaker 4: so sociopizes.

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Speaker 3: Places to stop right there, arrogant.

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Speaker 2: Has anybody been to a party where you serve or

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Speaker 2: dures to a whole room full of partygoers on top

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Speaker 2: of trip clubs in daylight hours, of course, trying to

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Speaker 2: find witnesses, and they are filthy, by the way, in

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Speaker 2: case you're atempted to go to one, They're disgusting. That said,

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Speaker 2: uh no, never speaking of arrogance. And he's standing there

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Speaker 2: like it's no big deal. There's a naked lady with

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Speaker 2: sushi on her body?

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Speaker 3: What what?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Nanthy?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 4: I saw this in the James Bond movie once they

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Speaker 4: had a naked lady lying on a table.

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Speaker 3: I was way before them. That's not real, all right,

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Speaker 3: that is not real.

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Speaker 4: But this shows the point to which he thinks of

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Speaker 4: people as objects. She was just a decorative object.

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Speaker 2: Bethany, I know everything you're saying is correct, But Lisa Bloom,

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Speaker 2: can I just ask you something. I'm sure since I

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Speaker 2: know you that you have created you have formed some

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Speaker 2: sort of a kinship with your victim that you're representing,

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Speaker 2: Don Richard, when you think about what she says she

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Speaker 2: endured at the hands of Sean Combs, and then you

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Speaker 2: look at this photo of him eating sushi off a

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Speaker 2: naked lake and let me just throw in the TikTok

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Speaker 2: where he asked a twelve year old to go to

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Speaker 2: an after party, the way he treats people, it's did

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Speaker 2: he think it would never end?

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Speaker 3: Lisa?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, isn't there.

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Speaker 6: A sanitation issue with the sushi on a skin? But anyway,

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Speaker 6: putting that aside, what it was about for my client

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Speaker 6: was she was trying to have a career in the

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Speaker 6: not want to lose her career. I mean, that's the

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Speaker 6: problem is that. Look, if people want to consent to

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Speaker 8: That's fine, but.

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Speaker 6: Nobody should have their career hinge on being groped, being grabbed,

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Speaker 10: Now, youngest victim to file against Shawn Combs claims she

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Speaker 5: Comply a common theme in the lawsuits and federal indictment

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Speaker 12: You know, it's the same old playbook, Nancy. It's blame

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Speaker 3: We have seen this.

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Speaker 12: Every person we work with has the same exact story

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Speaker 3: So none of that holds. But we always heard.

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Speaker 12: From our street sources here in New York City that

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Speaker 3: Prove yourself sexually. I make you that star. You know what,

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Speaker 2: Also in addition to Lisa Bloom, doctor Bethany and Lynn Shaw,

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Speaker 2: you for being with us, explain what is an NDA

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Speaker 2: and how wrongfully many people believe an NDA non disclosure

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Speaker 13: Right, Nancy, Well, thanks for having me. Typically NDAs, everyone

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Speaker 2: Well, one person we know that signed an NDA and

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Speaker 10: Listen, now that the accusations against Sean Combs are criminal,

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Speaker 2: The video from TikTok where Seawan Colmbs seemingly joking Lee

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Speaker 9: When I die, I want my last words to be.

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Speaker 3: I did it.

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Speaker 2: From our friends at v H one, Lisa Bloom. Isn't

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, especially words caught on video and Nancy, I also

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Speaker 8: And in our case, it's.

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Speaker 6: Not just against Shawn Colmes, it's against twenty other individuals

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Speaker 10: Another victim claims he was invited to a ditty party

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Speaker 10: Rodney Jones explosive lawsuit claims that Ditty's chief of staff,

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Speaker 2: Straight out to a former DEA agent in the Miami

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Speaker 9: Therefore you become prey to your victim. It's a date

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Speaker 3: Pink cocaine actually looks pink. That's where it gets to name.

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Speaker 2: Drug like ecstasy, like GHB, gamma hydroxy buterrate, the date

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Speaker 2: Take a look at this dispensary item now, Lisa, I

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Speaker 8: Well, for some victims.

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Speaker 4: It was suspended in baby oil and rectally injected, And Nancy,

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Speaker 2: See, but we whoa slow down, Nelly, what did you

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Speaker 4: Those thousand bottles of baby oil were not just.

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Speaker 3: A second lubricant.

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Speaker 4: They were used to suspend pink cocaine and other substances

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Speaker 4: in them so they could be injected into the victim's rectum.

444
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 4: So it goes immediately into the bloodstream. Nancy, this pink cocaine.

445
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,960
Speaker 4: It has a mixture of one drug, which is math,

446
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 4: which causes hypersexuality, GHB which causes memory loss, and an MDMA,

447
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Speaker 4: which creates an expansive warm feeling.

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Speaker 8: So we think of a date.

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Speaker 4: Rape drug as something that just renders a person helpless.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to give them uppers and downers at the

451
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Speaker 4: same time. Meth is notoriously used by sex addicts because

452
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Speaker 4: it makes you hyper sexual, it makes you able to

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Speaker 4: perform four hours. So these are not willy nilly cocktails.

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Speaker 4: These are cocktails that he perfected over time to use

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Speaker 4: on his.

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Speaker 1: Victims crime stories. With Nancy Grace.

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Speaker 2: To Lisa Bloom, high profile civil rights lawyer representing a

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Speaker 2: did HE accuser.

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Speaker 3: Dawn Richard.

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Speaker 2: She is owner of the Bloom Firm, author of Suspicion Nation,

461
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Speaker 2: The Insight story of the Trayvon Martin Injustice and why

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Speaker 2: we continue to repeat it. Lisa, you have a huge

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Speaker 2: body of work that you have created and developed over

464
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Speaker 2: the years, and you are publicly supporting Don Richard's claim

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Speaker 2: against Combs. Think about what doctor Bethany just said. If

466
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Speaker 2: this is true women, for the most part, some men

467
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Speaker 2: being anally infused with baby oil laced with GHB or

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Speaker 2: pink cocaine.

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Speaker 3: The humiliation and to think it's caught on video.

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Speaker 8: Lisa absolutely.

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Speaker 6: Nancy and we allege in Don Richard's complaint that she

472
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Speaker 6: was required to go to a lot of these sex parties.

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Speaker 6: She did not engage in any of the sexual acts,

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Speaker 6: but she saw women there, some who she thought were underage,

475
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Speaker 6: who clearly seemed to be zomped out of their minds

476
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Speaker 6: engaging in sexual acts, and she spoke out about it.

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Speaker 8: She talked to them, She complained to people.

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00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 6: She tried to get Cassie Ventura to leave Ditty, she alleges,

479
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Speaker 6: on multiple occasions, and she was constantly threatened, she says,

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00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 6: by Ditty, who said, you know people disappear, people turn

481
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Speaker 6: up dead.

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Speaker 8: I mean it was a terrifying time for her.

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Speaker 2: Can you imagine someone as powerful and as incredibly wealthy

484
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Speaker 2: as Calin was saying, Hey, people.

485
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Speaker 3: Disappear all the time. Girl.

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Speaker 2: You know Linda to Crispin, absolute Yeah, Robert Crispin joining

487
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Speaker 2: us a private investigator, but formerly with the DEE. You

488
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Speaker 2: want to know about drugs, as Crispin, Robert, I hope

489
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Speaker 2: you can see your monitor? Can we New York Control Room?

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Speaker 2: Can we see those infusing devices that are part of evidence?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 2: These reportedly used to infuse victims with pink cocaine and

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Speaker 2: or other illegal substances.

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Speaker 3: How would this work?

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Speaker 9: Exactly?

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Speaker 7: Why they do it like this because it's a pottery mix,

497
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Speaker 7: and it's got to be it's got to be diluted first,

498
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 7: and you can't carry a liquid around in a ziplock

499
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Speaker 7: sandwich bag or a small bag.

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Speaker 9: It's just going to spill everywhere.

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Speaker 7: So what they do is they put it into here

502
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Speaker 7: and they mix it so it's a clearer liquid, or

503
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Speaker 7: it's red or whatever color they put the food coloring in,

504
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 7: so they can actually walk up to a drink and

505
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Speaker 7: quickly do a diversion and release the release the liquid

506
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Speaker 7: into the drink, whereas if it was a powder, then

507
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Speaker 7: they would have to sit there and instirre it insert

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Speaker 7: in a certain they're going to get caught. These are

509
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Speaker 7: pre packaged, pre ready to go, loaded devices to put

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Speaker 7: in somebody's.

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Speaker 9: Strength, and that's why they use those.

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Speaker 7: And you can carry them anywhere, and you can carrying

513
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Speaker 7: your jacket pocket, carry it in your pants pocket, and

514
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 7: when you're ready to go, you just lean over, do

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Speaker 7: a diversion, and you can put it right in the drink.

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Speaker 5: A Los Angeles area business owner works with Ditty regularly

517
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 5: loaning out jewelry and exotic cars to the mogul. When

518
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 5: he gets an invite to Comb's surrock party, he decides

519
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 5: to attend to promote his business. During the party, Combs

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00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 5: asks the victim to join him in his office behind

521
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Speaker 5: the closed door. Combs drops his pants and advances on

522
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Speaker 5: the victim, grabbing his genitals in a rough and sexual manner.

523
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 5: The man freezes in shock and fear. Then somebody opens

524
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Speaker 5: the door and interrupts Comb's The unnamed high profile athlete

525
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,600
Speaker 5: ushers the victim out of the office, and the victim

526
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Speaker 5: high tails it out of the party.

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Speaker 10: Well Juja Arun Subramanium initially granted Ditty attorney Mark Agnafilo's

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Speaker 10: request for a guest order in the case. He did

529
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Speaker 10: not rule on Agniphilo's request to have prosecutors reveal if

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Speaker 10: they authorized statements aimed at assassinating mister Combe's character in

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Speaker 10: the press. Agnifilo alleges that prosecutors intentionally introduced false allegations

532
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Speaker 10: of child sexual abuse to the press and once them retracted,

533
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Speaker 10: prosecutors having until October thirtieth to respond to the accusations.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so, defense attorney Agnifello is blaming others. Last week,

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Speaker 2: they were blaming the FEDS for leaking information, specifically the

536
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Speaker 2: Cassive Interira video where she was beaten brutally in a

537
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Speaker 2: public hallway by Combs who so arrogantly thought it was

538
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Speaker 2: okay for him to run up and down the hallway

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Speaker 2: in nothing but a towel. Agnafello is now blaming others for,

540
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Speaker 2: he says, false allegations of sex attacks on minors trying

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Speaker 2: to break into the TV industry. To Caleb Brantley joining me,

542
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Speaker 2: investigative reporter dailymail dot com, host of the Trial of

543
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Speaker 2: Diddy podcast, tell me about the defense's request for a

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Speaker 2: gag order.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Nancy, So the defense is trying anything they can to,

546
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Speaker 13: you know, get him off, get.

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Speaker 3: Him released early.

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Speaker 13: One of those things is a gag order. But another

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Speaker 13: thing that's very interesting is that this week's seven new

550
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 13: lawsuits came out filed by Jane and John Does, and

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Speaker 13: what the defense is saying is that it's ridiculous to

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Speaker 13: them that they don't have these names because they think that,

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Speaker 13: you know, they can't then mount a proper defense if

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Speaker 13: they don't know who's making these claims. And these claims

555
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 13: go from anywhere two thousand to twenty twenty two, so

556
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Speaker 13: that's a twenty two year timeframe that they're trying to

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Speaker 13: build a defense for.

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Speaker 2: Okay, So, Lisa Bloom, in addition to what Cala Brantley's

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Speaker 2: just told us, since she's absolutely correct, the defense what's

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00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: the names of the victims? And what a lot of

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Speaker 2: people may not know is the defense is given far

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Speaker 2: before trial the names of all the witnesses, including victims.

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Speaker 2: It seems to me what the defense really wants is

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Speaker 2: the names of the victims made public.

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Speaker 6: I think you're right, Nancy, and you're absolutely right that,

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Speaker 6: of course, any criminal defendant is going to be told

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Speaker 6: before trial the names of the people who are going

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Speaker 6: to testify against them in sufficient time that they can investigate,

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Speaker 6: they can prepare their cross examination.

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Speaker 8: They have that right, and that's fine, But they.

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Speaker 6: Don't have the right to gag everybody who has something

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00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 6: bad to say about Sean Colmes. They don't have the

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Speaker 6: right to gag me. For example, I'm not involved in

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Speaker 6: the criminal trial. They don't have the right to gag

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Speaker 6: people who it's taken years and years to come forward

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00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 6: and now finally they've had the courage, they've found it,

577
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Speaker 6: and they're standing up and they're speaking out. And you know,

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00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 6: Seawan Colmes, through his attorney, has bashed the victims. He

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Speaker 6: bashed Cassie Ventura after she filed the case, essentially calling

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Speaker 6: her a liar. So he didn't have any problems speaking

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Speaker 6: out when it was in his interest to do so.

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Speaker 8: But now he wants everybody to be quiet. Luck with that.

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Speaker 3: Good luck with that.

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Speaker 2: Now speaking of a gag order, when the defense attorney

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Speaker 2: was everyone else to stop talking, why does he insist

586
00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: on talking himself?

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00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 3: Listen, they call them freak offs.

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Speaker 14: But you know, back when I was a kid in

589
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 14: the late seventies, they were called threesomes.

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Speaker 5: If these are genuinely threesomes, how do you explain a

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Speaker 5: thousand bottles of baby oil?

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Speaker 14: I don't know where the number one thousand came.

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Speaker 3: The US attorney said it.

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Speaker 9: I can't imagine it's thousands.

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Speaker 14: I mean, you know, and I'm not really sure what

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Speaker 14: the baby oil has to do with anything.

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Speaker 3: They're essentially saying it's a lubricant for an orgy.

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Speaker 14: I guess I don't know what you need A thousand.

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Speaker 14: One bottle of baby oil goes a long way. I

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Speaker 14: don't know what you need to need a thousand for.

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Speaker 14: I mean, he has a big house. He buys in bulk,

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00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 14: you know. I think they have costcos in every place

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Speaker 14: where he has a home. I mean, have you sat

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Speaker 14: in the pin in the parking lot of a costco

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Speaker 14: and see what people walk out of there with?

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Speaker 3: Not a thousand bottles of baby oil. I don't think

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Speaker 3: it was a thousand.

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Speaker 9: I think it was.

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Speaker 3: I think it was a let's just say it's a Okay.

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Speaker 3: That's from our friend Harvey Levin at TMZ.

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Speaker 7: SO.

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Speaker 2: While Agnafello is demanding a gag order to stop the FEDS,

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Speaker 2: he says from leaking info he is yacking incessantly.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Lucy, excuse me, I mean Lisa.

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Speaker 2: Why did he engage in verbal warfare of all people,

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Speaker 2: Harvey eleven.

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Speaker 6: And he's not even putting facts out there. You can

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Speaker 6: see him kind of spitballing as he's sitting there. Oh,

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Speaker 6: I don't think it was a thousand. I don't know,

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Speaker 6: maybe it was. Maybe you should know. The Feds have

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Speaker 6: said this is what they seized from his home, and

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Speaker 6: it is an important number because people are alleging that

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Speaker 6: the baby oil, as you say, Nancy, was laced with drugs.

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Speaker 6: Sometimes it was spread on their bodies, massaged in. Sometimes

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Speaker 6: it may have been inserted into people's bodily orifices.

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Speaker 8: And it's a very significant fact.

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Speaker 6: That's not something to be laughed off or say, oh, well,

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Speaker 6: you see people go to Costco. We're talking about sexual

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Speaker 6: assault and sex trafficking, and he's trying to minimize it.

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Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany, I think that sometimes we would rather focus

631
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Speaker 2: on the jocular or the jovialal That's kind of funny

632
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 2: because it's really hard to think about women that think, oh,

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00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 2: my stars, I'm going to get to go to this

634
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 2: huge party and they're going to be all these famous

635
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 2: people there and they can help my career, and wow,

636
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 2: look he got me some designer clothes to go to

637
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: this It's going to be the biggest night of my life.

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00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: You go to the party and then you wake up

639
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: and your vagina and your rear end is hurting, and

640
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 2: you're like, what happened?

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00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 3: And it's all on video video of you.

642
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 2: In these horrible compromise situations with people having sex with you,

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00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: and you're totally out of it, and you've got Diddy

644
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 2: over in the corner allegedly going, oh, move that leg

645
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 2: that way and that arm that way.

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Speaker 3: It's degrading and upsetting.

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Speaker 2: I think we'd rather see something that's somewhat jocular that

648
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 2: have to continue to be reminded of what these allegations are.

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00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 4: It's also hard to imagine the victims suffering. It's ineffable,

650
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 4: meaning that it's so horrible we can't even put our

651
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 4: minds wrap our minds around it.

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Speaker 8: But you think about it.

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Speaker 4: He lured women and men with the promise of advancing

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Speaker 4: their careers. He drugs them, then he rapes them, tapes

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Speaker 4: them so that he has power over them. We think

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Speaker 4: of this just being a sexual assault crime.

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00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 8: But it's not, Nancy. This is a power crime.

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00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 4: He stalked the victims after raping them and asking his

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Speaker 4: party or having his partygoers rape them. So this is

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Speaker 4: cumulative trauma and shame and fear for them. We saw

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Speaker 4: this with Catholic priests who molested young people.

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Speaker 8: The priests didn't.

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Speaker 4: Just have sex with the young people and then forget

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Speaker 4: about it. They chose victims that they stalked over time.

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Speaker 4: And when we think about sociopaths, Nancy, one of the

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Speaker 4: criteria is that there's a thin layer of affability which

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Speaker 4: hides a cold, calculated interior. So it's all funny and

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Speaker 4: laughing at these parties, but he is vicious when somebody

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Speaker 4: crosses him.

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Speaker 2: Now, we've heard a lot of speaking of funny about

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Speaker 2: Shancomb's whining about his life behind bars. He even doesn't

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Speaker 2: like the food. Now, I want to thank Shawancomb's aka

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Speaker 2: Ditties and stuff forgiving me this.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is a far cry from his jail food.

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Speaker 3: You could do it. You could be mango too, which

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Speaker 3: as your backyard.

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Speaker 15: I ain't.

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Speaker 3: I didn't want it.

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Speaker 15: I wanted that, you know me, I allow myself to

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Speaker 15: not have mango. I know way.

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Speaker 9: You know doctor King called it the law land attended consequences.

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Speaker 7: So sometimes the more you push a person down stronger

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Speaker 7: to Yet.

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Speaker 2: Not from our friends at India today, Lisa Bloom did

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Speaker 2: the attorney, in all of his wisdom, just compare Seawan

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Speaker 2: Combs to doctor Martin Luther King Jr.

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Speaker 3: Did I hear that? Have I gone crazy? Earth?

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Speaker 8: I think he's gone crazy?

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Speaker 6: You know, it's never good for a trial attorney to overreach,

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Speaker 6: to take an extreme position.

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Speaker 8: It turns off the jury.

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Speaker 6: And if you think there is any comparison whatsoever between

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Speaker 6: Shawn Colmbs, accused mass predator, and Martin Luther King Junior,

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Speaker 6: one of the great Americans of all time, you need

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Speaker 6: to have your head examined.

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Speaker 3: Guys.

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Speaker 2: It's not ending there comes just getting compared to MLK

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Speaker 2: by his lawyer. But now we find out about a

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Speaker 2: weird obsession Comes apparently had with the Royals.

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Speaker 11: Didty's former publicist Rob Shooter claims Combs was obsessed with

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Speaker 11: Princes William and Harry. Shooter claims Combs asked him to

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Speaker 11: invite them to dozens of parties, even offering to pay

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Speaker 11: for their travel, lodging, and security, but the Royals were

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Speaker 11: never interested in attending. Diddy finally met the princes at

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Speaker 11: a party after the two thousand and seven concert for

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Speaker 11: Diana at Wembley Stadium, but that was the extent of

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Speaker 11: their relationship. Shooter even claims did he kept framed photos

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Speaker 11: of the princes in his New York apartment.

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Speaker 2: Wow, you know what's interesting right there at Kila Brantley

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Speaker 2: so much Kila joining us from dallymail dot com. He

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Speaker 2: couldn't quite pull off getting Harry or William to a party,

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Speaker 2: thank heavens, but he managed to convince so many people

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Speaker 2: that his parties were the place to be. I'm talking

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Speaker 2: about Oprah, Obama, Trump, Hillary, all sorts of a list

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Speaker 2: celebs showed up there. Of course, how were they supposed

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Speaker 2: to know what was going on in the back room?

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Speaker 13: Yeah, Nanten, this just goes to show how highly he

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Speaker 13: thought of himself, that he kind of deserves to have

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Speaker 13: these royals at his party, these high profile people, and

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Speaker 13: like you said, it was the place to be for

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Speaker 13: most people. Hopefully you would think that this is just

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Speaker 13: the party. You know, you want to get pictured at

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Speaker 13: a Didy party, hopefully it'll advance your career. But for

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Speaker 13: many people, like we're finding out that wasn't the case.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Bloom joining me high profile civil rights attorney representing

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Speaker 2: a Didy accuser, Don Richard. Lisa, I know we all

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Speaker 2: recall when you and I were together at Court TV,

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Speaker 2: and on certain weekends, certain lucky people, not me, would

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Speaker 2: go out to the Hamptons for big parties, really big parties.

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Speaker 3: Now, Lisa, as I recall you have owned dogs in.

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Speaker 8: The past, right, I yes, absolutely, Okay.

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Speaker 2: Have you ever seen one sniff the rear end of

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Speaker 2: the other one?

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Speaker 8: Yes, just this morning.

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Speaker 3: Well, that's what happens at these parties.

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Speaker 2: They're all just sniffing around to find the most popular,

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Speaker 2: the most influential, the most famous person and somehow calms,

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Speaker 2: as KILEB.

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Speaker 3: Brantley pointed out, thought, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get the royals at my party, arrogance

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Speaker 2: out the yin yang.

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Speaker 3: Like Prince William.

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Speaker 2: You know, once Diddy sniffing his rear in at some

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Speaker 2: social climbing party.

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Speaker 3: I don't think so, you.

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Speaker 6: Know, Nancy, I didn't go to the Hampton's parties either.

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Speaker 6: I went to the Poconos and went hiking. That's my

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Speaker 6: cup of tea. But Denzel Washington had a great line

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Speaker 6: about the Diddy parties. He said, when you go to

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Speaker 6: a Hollywood party, leave thirty minutes before the devil arrives.

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Speaker 6: And I would add to that that if you go

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Speaker 6: to these parties and anything starts going.

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Speaker 8: Down, you should leave.

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Speaker 6: And if you think it's illegal, you should report it

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Speaker 6: because you should be protecting victims. And I'm not saying

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Speaker 6: everybody who was there knew what was going on, but

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Speaker 6: I think Moore did know what was going on than

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Speaker 6: they are letting on.

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Speaker 2: Now we wait as justice unfolds and more alleged victims emerge.

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Speaker 2: And now we stop to remember an American hero, Trooper

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Speaker 2: Daniel Redmond, South Carolina Highway Patrol just thirty one killed

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Speaker 2: in the line of duty, survived by a grieving wife

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Speaker 2: now widow, Michelle, and their three daughters, Olivia, Charlie.

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Speaker 3: And Kennedy. American hero Trooper Daniel Redmond. Thank you to

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Speaker 3: all of our guests, but especially to you for being

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Speaker 3: with us. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye friend,