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Speaker 1: The Around the NFL Podcast does not indorsed picking up

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Speaker 1: mysterious hitchhikers. Welcome back to another edition of the Around

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Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast. My name is Dan Hansis, and I

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Speaker 1: am joined by a room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler,

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Speaker 1: Chris Westling, and Greg Rosenthal. What's up, boys, Hey, Dan,

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Speaker 1: I thought i'd let you guys down on Sunday at

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Speaker 1: the top of the show. You did. I didn't even

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Speaker 1: say what, okay, fair enough when you couldn't hide your

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Speaker 1: disappointment about the Patriots winning and you said they were

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Speaker 1: ruining football. That part, that is something I believe in.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I have launched an outright war against them.

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Speaker 1: You're digging in on that. I like it. Yes, remember

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Speaker 1: this now the war has begun, me against the Pats.

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Speaker 1: Cancel the Pats, save football. Sure, Bill Belichick's shaking in

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Speaker 1: his boots right now, you know, cancel that morning west

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Speaker 1: just jumping from lily pad to lily pad. Cardinals, Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Some of us stay loyal to the team that we

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Speaker 1: fell in love. It's a good story, you know. Loan

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Speaker 1: blogger versus multimillion dollar you know, billion dollars the fourth season,

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Speaker 1: you can't just you can't just cancel it. You can't

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Speaker 1: just eliminate them as a as a series. And ed

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Speaker 1: Reff all right, I like it anyway. The Patriots, I'm

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Speaker 1: coming for you. Watch out. I don't know what I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna do yet. It's gonna be big though, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: change everything. But I wanted to apologize about Sunday. I

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Speaker 1: should have had my for a new season, some new

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Speaker 1: slogans for the NFL. So on the way back from

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Speaker 1: the restroom before the show, I just glad you brought

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Speaker 1: this up because we've gotten a lot of tweets about

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Speaker 1: so we don't know what to say, so you can

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Speaker 1: do it for us. Here we go, and you got

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Speaker 1: as always let me know honestly how you feel about them.

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Speaker 1: The NFL will never be stopped, little sinister. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a little bit like the Patriots. Okay, so that's

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Speaker 1: a bad one. I feel like you're throwing that one

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Speaker 1: out early too. Almost said you gotta have the better

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Speaker 1: ones later. That's what I'm saying. Okay, the NFL, we

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Speaker 1: stand for the national anthem or sit, whatever you think

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Speaker 1: is the right way is pretty cool by us. Cover everything.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's happy. I mean, it's it feels accurate to me.

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Speaker 1: I would run that by r G three to see

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Speaker 1: if it's an acceptable slogan. He tends to be an

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Speaker 1: expert on these issues. Kicking a van while he's down. Wow,

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Speaker 1: I like that one. If you're gonna slogan here, you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to run it by r G three. Alright,

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Speaker 1: final one. And this one kind of ties into the

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Speaker 1: first one. I threw out there because I think it's important,

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Speaker 1: And I want you to keep in mind Mark Cuban's

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Speaker 1: comments about the NFL a couple of years ago. The

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Speaker 1: NFL hogg to slaughter more like hog heaven. I think

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Speaker 1: Is that like a shot at Mark Cuban, Well, it's

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Speaker 1: a it's in reference to cubans comments. I do think

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Speaker 1: generally gluttonous nature of the entire country right now. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really proves my long running theory that you are in

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Speaker 1: fact smarter than Mark Cuban. Well, I don't have his money,

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Speaker 1: They played quarterbacks so opposite of each other. Big Ben

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Speaker 1: I will never forget that call, especially when he goes

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Speaker 1: and the guy is and he's bare chested. Alright, Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm got a whole thing on Jeff Fisher and quarterbacks,

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431
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Speaker 1: But I would just say that nobody in America or

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Speaker 1: around the world who watches football should ever again believe

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Speaker 1: which is an your Newish. Let's talk football, uh and

446
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: start with uh. This is the factory is sadness stuff?

447
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 1: Mark the Cleveland Browns a place Robert Griffin, the third

448
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:15,200
Speaker 1: on injured reserve, this after he suffered a left shoulder injury.

449
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,720
Speaker 1: UH in the season opener against the Eagles and just

450
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 1: to um put a button on it as and we

451
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,119
Speaker 1: don't know if he's done for the year. The new

452
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:27,479
Speaker 1: i R rules allowed the brown some wiggle room here,

453
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,959
Speaker 1: but there's certainly a chance we won't see him again. Uh.

454
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Speaker 1: It seemed like a pretty serious injury with a fracture involved.

455
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Speaker 1: But Mark, it was just something so cosnically depressing about

456
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Speaker 1: the Browns here that they on the day that they

457
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Speaker 1: lose to the rookie quarterback that they passed on after

458
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Speaker 1: they signed r G three, he beats him in a game.

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Speaker 1: Everyone's excited about that rookie and your r G three investment,

460
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Speaker 1: and let's look at it. They said, this guy is

461
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: not just a patch. We think he could be the

462
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 1: next guy. He ends up hurt like everyone kind of expected. Well,

463
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Speaker 1: one thing about r G three. First, I understand that

464
00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 1: he's the easy butt of jokes, you know, league wide

465
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Speaker 1: on some level. But his teammates voted him captain this

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00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: this year, and they and they talked about a different

467
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: type of player, And there wasn't a single negative thing

468
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: that came out of RG three during the off season

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00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 1: or now. He He couldn't have been more committed and

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Speaker 1: whether that's the right decision at quarterback or not. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it is, And I think if anything, from

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Speaker 1: a football angle, Josh McCown gives you just as much

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Speaker 1: of a chance to win games. But more than that,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland needs to uh stop tolling around the way that

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Speaker 1: the Rams have done previously and put all their sights

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Speaker 1: on getting the best draftable quarterback they they can and

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Speaker 1: really anything in the way of that, in my opinion,

478
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Speaker 1: is is wasted time. So it's not an r G

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Speaker 1: three thing. But let's get to the bottom this. You

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Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback with or without r G three.

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00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: There's no way to mix that message up. You've got

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Speaker 1: to go find that. Still, I don't see this as

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Speaker 1: a factory of sadness fallout in any way. I think

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00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:02,359
Speaker 1: it's saved Hugh Jackson for his pet project, who looked

485
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Speaker 1: lost in his first start with the brown It's sad

486
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 1: for RG three for him, I agree like in terms

487
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Speaker 1: of the win losses from the Browns. But from a

488
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: personal angle, a guy that you know, we debated should

489
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 1: he win Rookie of the Year, Should Andrew luck Who's

490
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: going to have the better career? Not that long ago

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00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 1: and to have this sort of second chance, which we

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00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: never really saw coming. We we did not think he

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Speaker 1: was going to get a chance to start in the

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Speaker 1: NFL again. For it to go out like this when

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Speaker 1: all they talked about all offseason was avoiding big hits,

496
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Speaker 1: and for the most part, he really did in this game.

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Speaker 1: And yet you know, I think it was a little

498
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Speaker 1: bit of bad luck, and I think it was a

499
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Speaker 1: little bit of saving the Browns because of what West

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Speaker 1: said he was the worst quarterback in the league. I

501
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: think this this week, well, not not case Keenum. No,

502
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Speaker 1: it's not fair. That's not fair because RG three, at

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Speaker 1: least the one thing, the only thing they do well

504
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: is test to field deep, and he did it all preseason.

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Speaker 1: He did in Week one. I'd blacked out that memory.

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00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: I really was that. I was thinking after the Sunday

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Speaker 1: games he missed five or six throws, not by a

508
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,640
Speaker 1: little bit, and that was even when he was protected. Well,

509
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: it was not an encouraging Week one. And this from

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Speaker 1: from day one, this was to me a puzzling signing

511
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 1: because number one, he couldn't play anymore, and number two

512
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Speaker 1: he always gets hurt. So what did we see in

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Speaker 1: the very first game he couldn't play and then he

514
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Speaker 1: got hurt. Well, so why should anybody be surprised that

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Speaker 1: this happened? No one should. And league executives, you know

516
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,520
Speaker 1: this of course comes out the minute Org three gets hurt.

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Speaker 1: Is you know that this league executive said he knew

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Speaker 1: it wouldn't work, and this guy said he knew it

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00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't work. And and listen, that's fair because Cleveland, you

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00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: have to go back to two thousand and one is

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Speaker 1: the last time they had not even a good quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but a quarterbacks start sixteen games. They have had a

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Speaker 1: long and insane history of drafting too small, too brittle,

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Speaker 1: and not enough durable quarterbacks. These guys have gotten hurt

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00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: every season. And another one of them is Josh McCown.

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Speaker 1: And that's where this heson'll give you three games, and

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Speaker 1: he's got where it could get depressing because you have

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Speaker 1: case Keen depressing, get more depres saying if Case Keenum

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Speaker 1: goes out there and you have to watch eleven games

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Speaker 1: of Case Keen him and he's not ready at all,

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Speaker 1: it's just pot Judy Kestler raut, stop thinking about Case

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00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: Keenum so much. Well, Mark back to the executives. I

533
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,199
Speaker 1: can't remember a quarterback and all the years I've been

534
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 1: watching football who has been more disparaged and maligned by

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Speaker 1: undisclosed executive and scouts who almost every time say, this

536
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: guy has to basically put his ego aside. That's almost

537
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: always the compliment or the comment on r G three.

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00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:31,960
Speaker 1: And if you hear it that many times, maybe there's

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00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 1: something to it. Oh, I don't doubt that there is. Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't This was never a project that I think

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Speaker 1: any one of us in this room said this is

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00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,920
Speaker 1: going to turn into wins. This was a patch. I

543
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 1: don't care who's in there. It is a patch. The

544
00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,399
Speaker 1: team is not ready for a quarterback anyways. And by

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00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 1: the way they were saying that was not the case.

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00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: I understand that. I think I think teams publicly say

547
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 1: a lot of things, and I think I think I

548
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: think I think that I think that you're talking about

549
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: a head coach that his ego is tied up in

550
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Speaker 1: this two you he wanted to make things work at

551
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: that level of football. Don't you have to talk yourself

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00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: into it. You have to believe. You can't go into

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00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: a season and say, actually, we all think that we

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00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: have the worst quarterback here, they would know whether it's

555
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,920
Speaker 1: lip service and whether what we're being told doesn't matter.

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00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: I think inside the building that Hugh Jackson did believe

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00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,720
Speaker 1: that for now, until he had the answer, they could

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00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: do something with r. G. Thro Yes, I do. You

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00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,600
Speaker 1: don't get to that point unless you believe in things

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00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: that are unlikely. It's unlikely Hugh Jackson would ever be

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00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: an NFL head coach. It's unlikely Robert Griffin the third

562
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: would ever be an NFL starts like, you have to

563
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 1: have an unbelievable belief in yourself to get to that point,

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00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: if nothing else. That was the one positive I took

565
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 1: from Jared Goff in Hard Knocks. Nothing was shaking that

566
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,200
Speaker 1: guy's confidence. I mean he was whether there was anything

567
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: was happening or not. That that guy believes in himself.

568
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: At least he had that. But here's what's on paper.

569
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,120
Speaker 1: Here's the problem. Because when it's April and we're talking

570
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: to all these teams and their strategies, and it's these wonderful,

571
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: glowing articles about what Team X is gonna do and

572
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: how they're gonna do it, then the games start and

573
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: we start to realize, oh, there's still about six or

574
00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: seven teams in the league that that mean business and

575
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,760
Speaker 1: the rest are figuring it out out. And if you're

576
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,640
Speaker 1: Cleveland on paper right now, you're the team that said

577
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz is not the kind of quarterback we want,

578
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 1: Jared Goff fighting and r G three was. So if

579
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: you're a fan, you're wondering, wait a minute, who's making

580
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 1: these decisions and why you trust the gem any better

581
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: than the previous eight. You'll have that. Uh. I think

582
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: they're more organized, but that doesn't mean that you you

583
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: have to pick players. Can you look at the Steelers,

584
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: you have to have star players in depth behind them.

585
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: Cleveland has neither right now. I hope that that preseason

586
00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,399
Speaker 1: quarter and a half or whatever it was isn't the

587
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: highlight of the season, though you know it's a long

588
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: sixteen weeks. This season is essentially over. I mean, that's

589
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: how every Brown season is. I think there's a lot

590
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: to be said for a kind of sophisticated fan who

591
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 1: knows when a team is in rebuilding mode and knows

592
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: that the future is what's worth getting excited about. And hey, look,

593
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: let's just last we can find promising things this season.

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00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: Let's see if Corey Coleming becomes a stud. Let's see

595
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: if Terre Prior can be an actual NFL starter, those

596
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: kind of you know, Karl Nassa, these are the things

597
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 1: to look for, not actual wins and loss Right, they

598
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: may have found some players. Let's look at the positive,

599
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: but it's not it could be wins and losses. And

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00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: let's move on to talk about the Saints, who have

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00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 1: finally cut the cord on running back c J. Spiller,

602
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: who signed a four year, sixteen million dollar deal last

603
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: March uh March of two thousand fifteen, was not healthy

604
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: and seemed to be in the doghouse perhaps in his

605
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: first season, and then got um. He did not play.

606
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: He was inactive for a week one this week, so

607
00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: the writing was on the wall that Spiller was not

608
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: gonna be a part of the Saints plans. West my question,

609
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 1: there was a lot of positive buzz I thought about

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Speaker 1: c J. Spiller this summer, and then all of a sudden,

611
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: now he's unemployed. I would even go back to last year.

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00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:47,880
Speaker 1: I thought this was a perfect fit for c J.

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00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: Spiller with Sean Payton, who uses his running backs in

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00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: the receiving game really well. Last year, you right off

615
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: because of an August knee surgery ruins this whole season.

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Speaker 1: This year May, Sean Payton says c J. Spiller is

617
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,920
Speaker 1: noticeably different. He's back, and then he's a game day

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00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: active after in preseason they use him with the first

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Speaker 1: team offense in the third preseason game. In that well

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00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: a final look, he's he's running out there before mark

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Speaker 1: Ingram in the third preseason game, and then Travera's Cadets

622
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: playing over him in the first game. There's gotta be

623
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: something else going on. But at this point, I think

624
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: I've pretty much given up hope that we're gonna see

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00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:28,160
Speaker 1: like difference making c J. Spiller. Ever again, something stinks here,

626
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: and it happens more with the Saints in terms of

627
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: their transactions than just about any team in the league.

628
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: They do not do a good job running their personnel.

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Speaker 1: I think Sean Payton has way more influenced, you know,

630
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,240
Speaker 1: on the and everything going on in that organization than

631
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: than announced. And and they don't get it. They don't

632
00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: get a lot of heat for giving c J. Spiller

633
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 1: all this guaranteed money. I think the reason they cut

634
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: him after Week one was his money was all guaranteed anyways,

635
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: it was fleshed down the toilet, so it didn't matter

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00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 1: whether he was cut after training camp or now. Well,

637
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: and to Dan's point about what teams are saying publicly,

638
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: Sean Payton last year essentially cajoled me into writing a

639
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,440
Speaker 1: Josh Hill making the lead piece based on what he

640
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 1: was saying publicly about certain players that it was unfair

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Speaker 1: when he called you up about it. That well, all right,

642
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: but then you know it's it's the same thing. All

643
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: these teams have to spin the message and have to

644
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: spend hope until the games start, and now it has

645
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: It's like, listen, give me a break. After all they

646
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: said about C. J. Spiller and how they how especially

647
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: before they signed him, this is the ideal running back.

648
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 1: It would have carved out of stone for my Sean

649
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:33,200
Speaker 1: Payton offense and then bang, he's gone. Their veteran free

650
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,320
Speaker 1: agent signings are among the worst in the entire league.

651
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: That said, I would I would like to see him

652
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: turn up on the old New England Patriots. I feel

653
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: like they're correct. Would I'm saying I would love to

654
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 1: see that roommates with bar not just you. You. Everyone

655
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: falls into the trap. Any free agent that washes out

656
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: immediately the rule has to be Oh what about on

657
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 1: the Patriots? It doesn't always work. Chris Long pretty damn

658
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 1: good in the open, Chad Johnson costs them a super Bowl.

659
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: Belichick's the coach that will trade times this season and

660
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: acquire Pop two weeks and dump him. I mean he's

661
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: more active than other teams are. We got Bishop Sanki

662
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: on the practice. Gouhead, Um, that's what's happening in the news. Guys.

663
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: If you'd humor me, I know you do often on

664
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: the show, or you know, have some patience with me.

665
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: Monday night was the first Monday Night football game without

666
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: Mike Treco in several years. If you, guys, just give

667
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: me some time the process this. I know you think

668
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: that I shouldn't still love you or tell you that,

669
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 1: but if I didn't say it, well, I'd still have

670
00:32:56,960 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: felt it. Where's the sense in that? M I promise

671
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to make your life harder or return

672
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: to where we were, but I will go down with

673
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: this ship and I won't put my hands up and surrender.

674
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: There will be no white flak above my door. I'm

675
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: in love and always will be. I know I left,

676
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: but I think we've hit the end of this thank you,

677
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 1: though you know that I famously have ranked the greatest

678
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 1: breakup songs in history. That's in the top one hundred.

679
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 1: Well that's why I didn't know that, West. I knew

680
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: that you have the list and you should point the

681
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: listeners breakup songs under my Chris Wesley on Spotify. It's

682
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 1: it's I'm sure it's a great list, but and that

683
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: that was just that was for me to Mike, Well,

684
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: you really can't. I didn't. I don't know that song.

685
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,320
Speaker 1: I have to admit, really, Greg was born at age

686
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:25,400
Speaker 1: thirty two sometimes three. It started sounding familiar towards the end,

687
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: but I didn't know what it was. But that's beside

688
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,400
Speaker 1: the point. My point was I didn't need to know

689
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,000
Speaker 1: it to really. Dan really captured the emotion of it.

690
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: He really got to the emotional core. Thanks. That was

691
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: a meeker Dan Kansas. Then I'm then I'm used to

692
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: I'm hurt. It was not the same with Sean McDonough,

693
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: who's a very capable broadcast. Well give him sometimes. I

694
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 1: think the point is you can do great and Mike

695
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: Tarko is just gonna do a little bit more. I

696
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: think missing Tariko is sort of given some time, you're

697
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: gonna oh it, You're not gonna like the new teacher

698
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 1: or the new coach or the new quarterback after the

699
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 1: great one leaves right away, and then after a while

700
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 1: will realize, Wow, I'm not saying I can't love again,

701
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: but I'm just not ready yet. Let's talk Thursday night football,

702
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: another love of mine, the New York Jets traveling to

703
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 1: Orchard Park to face the Buffalo Bills color rush night Mark.

704
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: It's exciting. I mean, as long as you if you're

705
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: not color blind. Fun Like PFT wrote a banger today,

706
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: like with the NFL color rushes, all about yeah green, Well, yeah,

707
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: of course it's about money. They're trying to make money

708
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,280
Speaker 1: with more jerseys. Greg, you used to work for PFT.

709
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: Come on, can you make a phone call? I got

710
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,879
Speaker 1: that one taken down, breaking capitalist organization out to make

711
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: money anyway. So this is a game of two desperate teams.

712
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: The Jets bad loss against the Bengals that they should

713
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: not have lost that game. The Bills, no, they just

714
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 1: lost the game to the Baltimore Ravens in which their

715
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: offense looked feeble. Uh So, now both these teams looking

716
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: to avoid going oh and two. But Mark, the argument

717
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 1: that I have is that the Jets is a better

718
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: team with a killer schedule in the next four weeks.

719
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: This is more important to them because they feel like

720
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: a team that could be a playoff team. Of things

721
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: go the right way, but if you're getting an owned

722
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,200
Speaker 1: two hole, you're in deep trouble. You if you lose

723
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: this game, then your task is to go over the

724
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: next month, play the Chiefs, the Seahawks, the Steelers, and

725
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. And I don't think that the New York

726
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: Jets got rid of Rex Ryan to bring in a

727
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: new regime that would go oh in three in their

728
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,839
Speaker 1: first games against Rex Ryan and a rather vanilla Bills team.

729
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: So yes, I think you know, with the way that

730
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 1: New York operates and New York covers around the Jets

731
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: and Giants, if they go into and this is how

732
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: it happens, there are going to be some problems. Of

733
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: course they could go into It's not like they're heavy favorites.

734
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Speaker 1: But watching that Jets Bengals game, I thought the Jets

735
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 1: looked really good. They dominated on both sides of the

736
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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. A Bengals team that you think of

737
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 1: as being very good on both lines of scrimm. They

738
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Speaker 1: ran the ball however much they wanted to that that's

739
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Speaker 1: how they ended up moving the ball. At the end

740
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: of the game, Leonard Williams looked was a man on fire.

741
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:12,680
Speaker 1: The entire defensive line without Sheldon Leonard. Sheldon Richardson wasn't

742
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: even there. He'll be back for this game. And they

743
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: go up against a Bill's offensive line who struggled badly

744
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: against Baltimore last week. So everything for the Jets, I thought,

745
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,279
Speaker 1: looked almost better than a year ago, except for the

746
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: one thing that I expect UH to turn into a

747
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 1: pumpkin just like Kirk Cousins, which is Ryan Fitzpatrick. And

748
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: he's out there doing Ryan Fitzpatrick things, throwing jump passes,

749
00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: doing weird out of control throws, and kind of being

750
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 1: more of the Ryan Fitzpatrick I think we'll see this season.

751
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,239
Speaker 1: Didn't help that Brandon Marshall UH didn't show up in

752
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 1: this game. Targeted seven times, three three catches, including a terrible,

753
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: terrible drop in the final minute when the Jets still

754
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: had a chance to move down the field and UH

755
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,320
Speaker 1: getting field goal range and steal the game back. And

756
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: then Eric Decker only had two catches he did get

757
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: in the end zone. But I thought, yes, Fitzpatrick did

758
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,399
Speaker 1: not look great it and there's reason to be cure

759
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: worried about that. The kicker killed him cost him the

760
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: four points. So I but I think they played better

761
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,879
Speaker 1: than Cincinnati, which is a good team. The Bengals didn't

762
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 1: even try to run on them. They were already uh,

763
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: making their game plan smartly. Just throw throw, throw, and

764
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: it's not like they can. We talk about Darrell Revis,

765
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, I think Mark especially and I get annoyed

766
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: by Rex Ryan, but this, this is a great quote.

767
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: I love Rex Ryan. One thing I love about him

768
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: is how much he respects and appreciates Darrell Rivers. And

769
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: he said if he's slipping it all as a player,

770
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: he's coming down from the very tip of everest. What

771
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: a great quote. And he has trouble with A J.

772
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 1: Green last year, Sammy Watkins, a DeAndre Hopkins, those are

773
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 1: the guys he had trouble with. Now we're getting Sammy

774
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: Watkins at considerably less than I don't know if the

775
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: Bills can take advantage of that matchup well. And I

776
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 1: look at the Bills last week and were they able

777
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: to use Sammy Watkins in that game, and that's been

778
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: an issue you at times in Buffalo in general, where

779
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,320
Speaker 1: Watkins does not get maxed out the way that a

780
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: j Green does in his better games with the Bengals.

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00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: The Jets held the Bengals rushing the game to fifty

782
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: five yards, where the Bills last week ran for two

783
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: point seven yards per carry, and they had no Sheldon

784
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Richardson in that game. He comes out off suspension for

785
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: the Jets, So that just makes that team strength even greater.

786
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: I think the thing with Revus and it will be

787
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,200
Speaker 1: a good a real indicator of how nervous the Jets

788
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: are about how Week one went. Let's see if they

789
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:34,359
Speaker 1: have him with Watkins alone. Uh, if they mix things up,

790
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,880
Speaker 1: it makes you think that they have They're really gauging

791
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: where their number one cornerback is at right now. Is

792
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: I think this isn't even bigger. It's a huge, big

793
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: game for both teams. It's even bigger for the Bills

794
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: because I think it's absolutely panic time for the Bills.

795
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: If they go oh into with what what we've seen

796
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: out of them, they go backwards ten yards on their

797
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: first drive of the season, that's a bad home and

798
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan wants to pound the football. He has a

799
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,799
Speaker 1: running back who's extremely talented and looks fast, but every

800
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 1: time he gets the ball he just wants to bounce

801
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: it outside. They have an offensive line that's supposed to

802
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 1: be a strength that really got dominated last week. They

803
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: have a coach who who pretends like he's bold and

804
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: quit at the end of the first half instead of

805
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,560
Speaker 1: trying to go for a field goal, just decided to

806
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: sit on the ball. You're beating their ass so bad,

807
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: we're not even gonna try to score. That's what the

808
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,640
Speaker 1: Bills were last week. I would be very concerned. They

809
00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: have two good things going for them. Jerry Hughes has

810
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: looked about as good as the defensive player over and

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Speaker 1: as I've seen over the last five weeks in terms

812
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 1: of rushing the passer. And Kyle Williams is back and

813
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: looked like Kyle Williams last week. So if the Jets

814
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,000
Speaker 1: can hang their hat upon the defensive line, which was

815
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: dominant and the running game, the Bills are hanging their

816
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: hat on Jerry Hughes and Kyle Williams and in a

817
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: secondary two good cornerbacks. It's not like their defense played poorly.

818
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: It made me think, man, if they had all the

819
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: players that they're missing, you know, Shack Lawson and Reggie

820
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: Raglan and Marcel Darius like Rex might actually have something here.

821
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: But they don't have those plays well, and they have

822
00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: half their defense, right, And I think that's fair Buffalo.

823
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, we've talked about it for for weeks and months.

824
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 1: They they had an absolute rough preseason. Very few teams

825
00:41:06,120 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 1: could come close to saying the same stuff happened to them.

826
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 1: But if you lose this game to the Jets and

827
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,719
Speaker 1: euro in two, it's no different than New York. You

828
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: go and play the Cardinals and Patriots next, then you

829
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 1: play the Rams, and if you lose that game to

830
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: the Rams, I gotta wonder what happens in Buffalo because

831
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: it knows with the Rams which Rams team will show up.

832
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I see your point the Bills. The

833
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: Bills have the very similar schedule to the New York Jets,

834
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: and it is a murders row. Um. Yes, you're absolutely

835
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 1: right about that. And and Tyrod Taylor after the offseason

836
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: was saying, this guy deserves to be paid. You gotta

837
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: make some more players this week. This is a fun game, though,

838
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: I'll say that I I it is. I know we

839
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: don't like talking about must win games week two because

840
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: they really don't exist. But I think for these two,

841
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 1: these two organizations in this ANFC East where you're looking

842
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 1: at the Patriots gonna go fifteen and one or fourteen

843
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: and two. It's as here the loser of this game

844
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: is one and four. After week five, it makes sense

845
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: people against the killer schedule and you're not coming back

846
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: from that. Most likely everybody got the Jets in this game.

847
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 1: Does anybody think the Bills hold home field here? That'll

848
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: probably be picking against the Bills every week? Wow? No,

849
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm definitely taking the Jets. T They're playing such

850
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: a similar defense to the one that that flummix Tyrod

851
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: Taylor last week. He didn't know where the pressure was

852
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: coming from. I don't like doing this because I I

853
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 1: don't want this to happen, and I'm not I'm no

854
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 1: Bills fan, but I I think the Bills are gonna win.

855
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 1: This is in Buffalo, which is no small thing. And

856
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: you know the the occasional Rex Ryan game where he

857
00:42:32,640 --> 00:42:35,240
Speaker 1: kind of he says, f you do all his doubters

858
00:42:35,320 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: and drops a little bit of a bomb. I think

859
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:38,879
Speaker 1: that they're going to play well in this game when

860
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: it surprised me. We will see what happened. Tyrod Taylor

861
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: played well in that week's seventeen game against the Jets,

862
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: played terribly in the first Color Rush game. Uh, so

863
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: we'll see which one shows up. One last point about

864
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 1: the Bills. You know Greg mentioned earlier that only two

865
00:42:56,200 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver caught the ball, Robert Woods and Sammy Watkins.

866
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: Has to be irritating if you're a Bills fan watching

867
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan immediately score a touchdown against the Cardinals A

868
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,120
Speaker 1: difference in that game. I think we predicted this in

869
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: the summer, right while they're trying to throw deep. As

870
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 1: to Greg Salas before we talked to m I just

871
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: want to check in with Mark Sessler, who the last time,

872
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: if you're a listener to the show, you know you're

873
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 1: in your mind. Mark has let go and he's decided

874
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 1: to eat all food, fatty type of foods and not

875
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 1: do any exercises. He's even he's got the vapors right now,

876
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 1: which is something a very heavy set woman might do.

877
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: I haven't always been like this, like a Gilbert Great

878
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 1: Mom type um, but now the audience should know that

879
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: that has shifted. You've gone away from giving up on

880
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: your physical appearance and your into something even more hardcore.

881
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: It seems well, I tried to gain I tried to

882
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: eat all this junk food, and I quite enjoyed it,

883
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 1: but I didn't I wasn't gaining weight, and I was

884
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:00,479
Speaker 1: just feeling uh ill and feeling angry, and I didn't

885
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: feel good. So I stocked. It's not a long term plan,

886
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: but I I amount to a new thing that's fair.

887
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wasn't thinking it out entirely, but

888
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 1: I uh decided during the middle of that Brown's game

889
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 1: against the Eagles, very early that I would only eat

890
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,400
Speaker 1: raw foods during the game and with the presumption that

891
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 1: Cleveland would win, and when they did not, I said,

892
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 1: I will continue to eat raw foods alone, just raw

893
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 1: foods until Cleveland wins football game. Here's the Here's the

894
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 1: thing about Mark and your diet is that you've said

895
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,800
Speaker 1: before the show started that this raw food diet also

896
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: is making your body and brain act weird. Is there

897
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: maybe a middle ground where you could eat a diet

898
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: that that puts you more in an even keeled space considered,

899
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: it's not the the diet. That is the determining factor

900
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,480
Speaker 1: in all of this. Uh that I disagree with. Greg.

901
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: Do you and I have been through this before. I'm

902
00:44:55,239 --> 00:44:59,919
Speaker 1: not gonna have it happened on a radio show. They

903
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 1: based on previous lifestyle vowls that I've seen from you. Mark,

904
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 1: I predict this one last eleven days in today four

905
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: into day four. By the way, I'll take the under.

906
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: It was making you feel crazy. Let's move on the

907
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: seam A great see. This is a very special honor,

908
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: Dick Bank said it. This is a very special honor

909
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: for the third season. We will be our fourth season.

910
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: Third season, we will be picking eighteen season. Fourth season,

911
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: we'll be picking a team of around the NFL. And

912
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: what does that mean? That means, Greg explained to the audience,

913
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 1: it's the team that in theory we all are rooting

914
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 1: for that we naturally In two thousand and UH enjoyed

915
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: watching the Carolina Panthers early on in the season. We

916
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,479
Speaker 1: kind of let me like the cut of their their job.

917
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: What is it the jib? What's a jib? Something you

918
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: like the cut off? Um? We yes, the Panthers. The

919
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: Chargers were a picken. We never really kind of found

920
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: one that we fell in love with and we settled

921
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 1: on the Chargers, picked them that Cardinals. That's last season

922
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,880
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Yes, and uh, it's probably been less organic

923
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 1: since that first season, and it's it's intrating. We picked

924
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 1: the Panthers before they really went on a run and

925
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: started playing well. And now it's something we meet with

926
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: with Danish is I believe they're involved. What we do

927
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: is we we use the inter office email system to

928
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,279
Speaker 1: set us on time, set aside time in one of

929
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: the conference rooms. We block off that time. We get bagels,

930
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: English muffins, toast locks, orange juice, cooffee and um other danishes.

931
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: And we hammered out. We hammered out. And why today

932
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: is important is what we like to do is we

933
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,800
Speaker 1: like to nominate teams after week one and that not

934
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:27,760
Speaker 1: just tracking the week one, but all through the summer.

935
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: You factor in all these things and then after the

936
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 1: third week of the season, we will select a team.

937
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna get too straight strict with the rules.

938
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: If you nominate a team today, it doesn't mean you

939
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: can't throw somebody else out there at the end of

940
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,839
Speaker 1: week three, but it's not necessarily a great look. If

941
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: you're gonna bail on the team that you feel so

942
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: confident about right now. I would like you to stick

943
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: with your team, but there should be no rules that

944
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 1: you can't go to somebody else before the final week

945
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 1: three vote, which the vote must be unanimous. Because the Panthers,

946
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 1: for instance, I think we're well into this season. It

947
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 1: was kind of more just after watching them for a while,

948
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:06,759
Speaker 1: feeling the vibe. I think it was after three weeks.

949
00:48:06,840 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: It was right about when when Riverboat Ron hit his

950
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: famous epiphany. Yes, that definitely checks out um memory wise.

951
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: So without further ado, we will now nominate four teams,

952
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:23,520
Speaker 1: and one of these teams will likely be the Team

953
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:26,160
Speaker 1: of a t L. I'm sure every front office official

954
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: and every player in the NFL is listening to this podcast.

955
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: Every finger crossed, mark get us going. Who was the

956
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: first nominee for Team of a t L. I'm gonna

957
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:37,800
Speaker 1: read you why I'm picking this team and reveal it

958
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:40,600
Speaker 1: near the end, because I think this shows that I

959
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: have an open mind, and I would just ask the

960
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: rest of the room to keep an open Here's what

961
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: my team brings to the table. Number one, a balanced

962
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:50,320
Speaker 1: deep roster both sides of the ball. Number two and

963
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: experienced head coach who knows the division up and down.

964
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Number three a quarterback we can get behind. Number four,

965
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 1: a team that plays the kind of football we appreciating

966
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,839
Speaker 1: this from tell defense, versatile ground game with a top

967
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 1: three receiver to do damage through the air. I don't

968
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 1: like where this is going. The next one. Number five.

969
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:13,640
Speaker 1: This is a sober minded Middle American franchise supported by

970
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: a loyal fan base that's been through hell. This dynamic

971
00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: appeals to Greg's desire for down home pro U s

972
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 1: centrist values with a tilt toward laz a fair economy.

973
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Number six. This is not a team that will implode

974
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,799
Speaker 1: by week five, nor is it some fly by night

975
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 1: operation that plays games in a seventy two degrees sterile

976
00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:35,400
Speaker 1: science fiction like don't while there's no guarantee of the

977
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: super Bowl, they'll be alive and well in December. In December,

978
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: and they'll bust lips in the rain and snow. I

979
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:44,399
Speaker 1: like them. Final point number seven. We have a chance

980
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: to say we were on board when this team finally

981
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:51,640
Speaker 1: enjoys its elusive moment of glory, and as a bonus,

982
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: that moment would offer a chance for healing, redemption, and resolution.

983
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,959
Speaker 1: For one of our own, Chris Wesley's because this team

984
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 1: is the sinson at Bengals. Wow, right off the bat,

985
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: Cessler drops a hammer. The Bengals nominated as a team

986
00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: of a T L Well. I mean you're we need

987
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: to hear from you first, because is there Chris Westling

988
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: and people that are not aware. West grew up in

989
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:21,720
Speaker 1: Cincinnati on the West Side as a Bengals fan, decided

990
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: because of the team's practices and dysfunction, he could no

991
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: longer support them deeper than that, but wrote a docier

992
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 1: in which he broke down all the reasons why he

993
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: would no longer follow the team or support them, and

994
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 1: has since celebrated each of their first round playoff failures

995
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 1: in the last five years, a event he calls west

996
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: of this does that disclude them from having any chance

997
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 1: of being the team of a T. Well. I would

998
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:50,640
Speaker 1: first like to say that you know, this is Mark

999
00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: at his best, using his imagination. I admire his creativity here,

1000
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,799
Speaker 1: he's thinking outside the box. Well done, Mark, very well done.

1001
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:03,319
Speaker 1: I will keep an open mind, but I would say

1002
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: there is very little chance that a team that I

1003
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: loathe and I find amusing. I don't think I can

1004
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 1: take the Bengal seriously because they provide me endless hours

1005
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: of entertainment and amusement, not something that I could get behind.

1006
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't think. Okay, he says, he doesn't think. He's

1007
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 1: not closing the door, which is a very nice thing

1008
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: of West do because it doesn't cut out your legs

1009
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: from under you. Here, because we're not voting until week three.

1010
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,920
Speaker 1: I he's being honest, though, and you gotta respect that

1011
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 1: he's being honest. I we could vote. Couldn't we vote

1012
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:37,239
Speaker 1: next week if we all felt strong? Absolutely? But I'm

1013
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: setting that the deadline is. I respect the vision you

1014
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,440
Speaker 1: have here where there's a happy ending and there's healing

1015
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: and catharsis for me. Thank you for that, by the way.

1016
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,279
Speaker 1: And to get there, I actually a team out of

1017
00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 1: the a f C North, which I when I did

1018
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:54,200
Speaker 1: something that I would never have done before you once

1019
00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: upon a time, a mortal enemy of the Cleveland Browns. Yes,

1020
00:51:56,920 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 1: at this point, Browns have no rivals, so all hailed

1021
00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:04,120
Speaker 1: up angles, all right. So that is the first nominee,

1022
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:07,960
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals, and I will I will go next West,

1023
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: and the team I will nominate is when I'm looking

1024
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: for this a team to get behind it. It has

1025
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: to be a team that is downtrodden, UH. In many cases,

1026
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:22,800
Speaker 1: a team that and a fan base. This is what

1027
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: I I like that has put up with a lot

1028
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,520
Speaker 1: of garbage, and now things are going in the right direction.

1029
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,719
Speaker 1: And when I think about this team, a proud team, UH,

1030
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 1: one of the one of the forebearers of the American

1031
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Football League, a decorated franchise, but that has seen nothing

1032
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,160
Speaker 1: in many years. But now through the patience of ownership,

1033
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: which surprised a lot of people, is on the way up.

1034
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: And we saw it in Week one where their head coach,

1035
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: a man maligned, did his own ways. He hung some

1036
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: of the biggest zeppelin you've ever seen. Um onions are

1037
00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: sitting on top of the grown And I'll tell you

1038
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about, Jack del Rio, the man UH

1039
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 1: who with one play call was sent a lightning bolt

1040
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 1: to the old zeuser. That that is the team of

1041
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: a t L, A team that is looking to change

1042
00:53:11,320 --> 00:53:15,600
Speaker 1: the culture, looking to save the NFL from the likes

1043
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:18,560
Speaker 1: of the Patriots and all the other teams, the Broncos

1044
00:53:18,719 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: and the Packers and all these teams and the Seahawks

1045
00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: are the same five teams that are always in the mix.

1046
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 1: Here where the new kids on the block, and we're

1047
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 1: ready to shake up the NFL. That's why I have

1048
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: selected as my nominee the exciting, the young, the energetic

1049
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: Oakland Raiders. M a convincing argument and whether it's intentional

1050
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 1: or not, really pulls on my historical heartstrings dating back

1051
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: to when this exercise was more innocent and a fourth

1052
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: down call from Ron Rivera that helped inspire us naturally

1053
00:53:55,280 --> 00:54:00,640
Speaker 1: because he was playing bold football. That gets me going instead,

1054
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, this exercise has turned has turned ugly. Let's

1055
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: be honest at times in off air in the office

1056
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 1: emotional uh where it almost feels like sometimes we're just

1057
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: we're just saying, okay, we'll pick that team, just to

1058
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: just to pick a team. This makes a lot of

1059
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: sense to me. I like it, Dan, Thank you very much. Greg.

1060
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 1: I really that means a lot to me any thoughts

1061
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 1: on the because I know, like I would be very

1062
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: happy to pick a team like this because of the

1063
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: arc of where we started with the Raiders when this

1064
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: podcast started, where we could not have been harsher on them,

1065
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: and for good reasons. But they've grown and we've grown

1066
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,680
Speaker 1: and I love the Raiders as a as a team

1067
00:54:39,680 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: of a great point. That's a great point as well

1068
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: of the coming full circle after being the laughing stock

1069
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: of this podcasts. There's a few things I would like

1070
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 1: to see from the Raiders before I jump on board.

1071
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: There frisky and I'm intrigued. I like Amari Cooper, Khalil

1072
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: Max Fund to watch. What else do they have going

1073
00:54:57,320 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: on defense? They gotta douce. I need to see Carl

1074
00:54:59,719 --> 00:55:02,919
Speaker 1: Joe's of play. I need to see some cornerbacks play well.

1075
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 1: There's no pass rushing the first week. I think the

1076
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: team of a t L should have some kind of defense,

1077
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,520
Speaker 1: so I want to see that there is. We're not

1078
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,080
Speaker 1: looking necessarily for a twelve and four team. No, no, no,

1079
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,600
Speaker 1: not at all. I don't want to team just a

1080
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: fun team to watch. After growing up in Cincinnati, I

1081
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: want a team with a backbone because I never had one. Okay,

1082
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 1: that's certainly fair. I thought they showed a lot of

1083
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: backbone in winning that game in enemy territory, but their

1084
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: defense did not look good. That's very fair. Greg, you

1085
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: are up next your nomination for team of a two. Well,

1086
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: I I am gonna nominate a team I'm also going

1087
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: to have a point of order after we all go

1088
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: go around. Okay, that's fair. Just in terms of talking

1089
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,560
Speaker 1: about the rules, I'm big into the rules. I hitting

1090
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: on the rules, that's important. I'm not into surprises. I'm

1091
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 1: into a very simple exercise where you pick the team

1092
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: you are looking forward to watching. That's a great That's

1093
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 1: that's all I'm looking forward. That's all I'm thinking about.

1094
00:55:57,880 --> 00:56:01,040
Speaker 1: And I'm looking forward to watching Jamis Winston not just

1095
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:05,080
Speaker 1: win me some sandwiches off, but light up those secondaries

1096
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: in the NFC South and be that sort of very

1097
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: similar to the Raiders in some ways, be that young

1098
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: team for a franchise that has one Super Bowl but

1099
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: has been lost in Mark's wilderness for the last ten

1100
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:22,960
Speaker 1: twelve years. Just an awful group of coaches and everything

1101
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: and never really wilderness. Well I just using the word wilderness.

1102
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: I feel like I have to mention your name, Jamis.

1103
00:56:32,360 --> 00:56:37,280
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jamis Winston, Mike Evans, Doug Martin, Charles Sims, Throwing,

1104
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: Vincent Jackson, Austin Seferian Jenkins. You guys can talk all

1105
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,439
Speaker 1: you want about defense. I want to see a team

1106
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: that's fun to watch and it's gonna be aggressive, not

1107
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,080
Speaker 1: dinking and duncan and moving the ball down the field

1108
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: like the Bengals sometimes do, but going deep and going bold.

1109
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 1: And well, they did have a nice some nice vertical

1110
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: strikes in week one, and then you know on defense,

1111
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: you got Lavanti David, you got Calling Kwan Alexander. It's

1112
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 1: a team on the come. We'd be ahead of the

1113
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,920
Speaker 1: curve if we picked the Tampa Bay Bob. Yeah, and

1114
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:13,600
Speaker 1: I think put him on rushmore. I um, I think

1115
00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 1: that Jamis Winston as the face of a team of

1116
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: a t L. I like that. That guy gets me excited,

1117
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: not just as a player with potential, but also as

1118
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 1: a personality, a guy people can believe in. Well, I

1119
00:57:24,520 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 1: think Greig knows, based on conversations here and outside of here,

1120
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: that he he's taunting a brick wall over on this side.

1121
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: I know I'm not because I believe that everyone in

1122
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:37,240
Speaker 1: this room could have an open mind. I do have

1123
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: an open mind, and actually I will say that I

1124
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: I would be again, I am probably the most willing

1125
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: to go to anyone's if three people want something, this

1126
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,160
Speaker 1: is not the beginning and end of my world. I'd

1127
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 1: be I want, I want the team to the group

1128
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,000
Speaker 1: to agree. But here's my issue with the Bucks. Hey,

1129
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: you'd say you like to watch him. I like what.

1130
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:57,280
Speaker 1: I like what they're about on offense. But I'm gonna

1131
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,600
Speaker 1: bring up two things I brought it before. The uniforms.

1132
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: Give me a break with the uniforms that I gotta

1133
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 1: get to sit down and get super excited brown fan

1134
00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: by the lay Oh no, he wears the uniform in

1135
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,960
Speaker 1: the league. Now, I think the Bucks. And secondly, that

1136
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:17,920
Speaker 1: hideous Florida because you don't see colors, that hideous Florida

1137
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 1: sunlight that's down on that field, your color blind ground

1138
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,440
Speaker 1: color blind see colors, yes, but no, no, everyone out there.

1139
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: It's not a black and white Charlie Chaplin movie out there.

1140
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: Just the tone is awful. I just like picture always

1141
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: anybody color blinds like a dog where the sightline is

1142
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: near everyone's knees and you're hearing like black and white.

1143
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: This is tough. This aesthetically is a tough choice for me.

1144
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: I would like to see them another week. Maybe it

1145
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: is weird I and I am not a You know,

1146
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 1: this isn't the the fashion competition of around the league football.

1147
00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 1: Just one guy's opinion. The reason You're in trouble at

1148
00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:55,720
Speaker 1: this Greg is because Mark's reasoning is not factoring in

1149
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: football at all. There's nothing the Bucks can do right

1150
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 1: now to change the weather in Florida and their uniforms

1151
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: players wear. What's that? What do football players uniforms? Right?

1152
00:59:06,960 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: So it does factor in football, Yeah, but they can't change.

1153
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: But they can't do anything. Of course they can play

1154
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: for three years. Well there's Look, this isn't about just

1155
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: the players. I I thought of, you know, capitulating and

1156
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: politically choosing a team that would have a better chance.

1157
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: But that feels design. I'm not ruling them out issue

1158
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:26,200
Speaker 1: like I'd like to wait if I'm to remain invested

1159
00:59:26,280 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: in this uh product, which is a very hippie proposition

1160
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: at best, after the past few podcasts where I have

1161
00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:37,200
Speaker 1: been besmirched and dragged through the mud, if I'm to

1162
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: remain invested, I would have a little bit of an

1163
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: issue with the Buccaneers because Gregg talked about watchability, and

1164
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: no matter how well they play football, they are always

1165
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 1: going to be in the bottom three teams of watchability.

1166
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 1: For me, I can't get excited about watching a team

1167
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: whose uniforms make me vomit. It's about me. You know,

1168
00:59:54,200 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: you never know there are such a fashion plate. I mean,

1169
00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 1: I didn't know you were so concerned with how appearance this.

1170
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 1: The denomination process went smoothly until the kissing cousins start

1171
01:00:03,880 --> 01:00:08,320
Speaker 1: getting excited about uniforms. I'm excited about uniforms that that's

1172
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: been out there again. I said, I'll keep an open mind.

1173
01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not gonna rule anyone out today. I

1174
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 1: want to see another week of the Bucks. I think

1175
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: they are an interesting football team. And before we do

1176
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: throw it to West, we got West. We gotta open

1177
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: the kimono. You're upset about some of this team of

1178
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: West TL talk. You don't like it, you think it's unfair,

1179
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: you think you've been dragged through the mud. Um. I

1180
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 1: think what Greg is getting at is he wants you

1181
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:34,520
Speaker 1: to keep an open mind and make this a collaborative

1182
01:00:34,560 --> 01:00:37,440
Speaker 1: process and not just your team that we need to

1183
01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: go along with. Is that is that you understand where

1184
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,880
Speaker 1: maybe that sentiment is coming. I absolutely do, And I

1185
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: feel like because when this when this project started, I

1186
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 1: was the most invested in the group because I was

1187
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:51,760
Speaker 1: watching more video than you guys were, So I took

1188
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 1: some ownership there and when I stood up against you

1189
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: guys against the forty Niners, which did happen, and we

1190
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,520
Speaker 1: can probably rule the tape irish. I think there's a

1191
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: lot of feeling amongst this group back in the teams

1192
01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: took the sound about team of around the NFL buzz

1193
01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 1: for these forty Niners happily. Would I do this? Let's

1194
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 1: think about it. I give West a lot of credit.

1195
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 1: He's ready to do it right now, I said, I'm

1196
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:23,440
Speaker 1: willing to consider them, whereas before I wouldn't have believed it.

1197
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 1: Let's go around the room, yes or no? Greg? Yes,

1198
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: then yes, Mark, we took way too much last year

1199
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:36,400
Speaker 1: railroaded me into the chargers last You're welcome for that,

1200
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: by the way, that was great for being invested and

1201
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:43,160
Speaker 1: making sure you guys did not make that terrible mistakes. Yeah,

1202
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 1: you've made a good choice. That was good. That was good.

1203
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 1: We've made lots of good choices with with team of

1204
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: a t L And over the years, should we now

1205
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 1: go around the room and find points where everyone else

1206
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: was wrong on this podcast in the past three and

1207
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: a half years. If you start a segment, if I

1208
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 1: start a segment, whereas particularly making fun of you were

1209
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: mocking you. I would welcome you to do that. All right, Listen, West,

1210
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 1: this what I'm talking about. West is sensitive about the situation.

1211
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: He's saying, this is not the West t L show. Well,

1212
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm open to the idea of just abandoning my

1213
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: investment in it. Well, that was my point of order.

1214
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 1: Just make the team of a t L. No more.

1215
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: That's always great solutions everything nothing, it's not that nothing matters.

1216
01:02:23,400 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: You know, your favorite TV shows, they last two or

1217
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,200
Speaker 1: three seasons, then they lose some. But I that down

1218
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: to hear Chris West, Yes, nominate please. That was a

1219
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: terrible West. West just agreed with it that it's if.

1220
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,600
Speaker 1: If it's not going to be honest, I'd wait a minute.

1221
01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 1: We could be open. We haven't even hit a point

1222
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,160
Speaker 1: of contention. This seems like we're the most open minded

1223
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: we been in in all these season everything was going

1224
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: well and now we got generally I'd go along. I'd

1225
01:02:50,560 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: go along with any of them. I would just saying,

1226
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:54,760
Speaker 1: if we have to pretend that we like a team

1227
01:02:54,840 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: just to do it, I don't want to make West

1228
01:02:56,600 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: do that. Okay, Well, then we won't pick a team.

1229
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: If we don't all settle on one. That's fair right

1230
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: banned the segment, Wes your nominee. Well, speaking of keeping

1231
01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 1: an open mind, I would like you I acknowledged our

1232
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,640
Speaker 1: issues with the Titans, Mike Malarkey being issue number one

1233
01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: the second half of the season opener, in which there

1234
01:03:20,080 --> 01:03:23,439
Speaker 1: were three Ton turnovers that caused a very exciting game

1235
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: to turn sour. The other thing, But if you keep

1236
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 1: an open mind and realized that week one is the

1237
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:32,800
Speaker 1: perfect overreaction time, and let's let's concentrate on what happened

1238
01:03:32,840 --> 01:03:34,800
Speaker 1: in the first half when connor or is all over

1239
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,200
Speaker 1: our instant messengers saying how fun this team is, And

1240
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, there's so much fun to watch. If if

1241
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: Greg's point is the most fun team to watch, the

1242
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: Titans to me can be right there with any team

1243
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,640
Speaker 1: in the league. They need a little more smash mouth

1244
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: than a little less exotic. And I would say that

1245
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:53,480
Speaker 1: that hurt them in the first half of that game too,

1246
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 1: throwing fake dives from Mariota to pitch backs Derrick Henry

1247
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,600
Speaker 1: on third and one. And is that a lot of exotic?

1248
01:04:00,040 --> 01:04:02,600
Speaker 1: A lot of it, which is which makes them fun,

1249
01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 1: but not if they're scoring ten points a game. But

1250
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 1: I am open minded, and we all we all were

1251
01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 1: kind of thinking that the Titans were h a good pick.

1252
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,160
Speaker 1: They probably wouldn't be in my top three or four teams.

1253
01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: But I'm I'm kind of like Mark that if it's

1254
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: a team that I look forward to watching, I'm I'm

1255
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: on board. I I like the idea of the Titans.

1256
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:23,280
Speaker 1: We've talked about that before. I I'm glad you didn't

1257
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: abandon the Titans, by the way after a faulty you know, opener.

1258
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,959
Speaker 1: I I'm glad you didn't because you gotta you gotta

1259
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: stick to what you saw. And I don't think that

1260
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: Week one is going to decide who they are. I'd

1261
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,600
Speaker 1: be open to it because you know, the my your

1262
01:04:37,920 --> 01:04:40,080
Speaker 1: your NFC South, Greg is my a f C South,

1263
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:42,120
Speaker 1: and I think that there's a lot of fun things

1264
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:44,800
Speaker 1: happening there. I'd sign up for the Titans. And I

1265
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: don't need this team to go fourteen and two and

1266
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: be in the a f C Championship. It's like, that

1267
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 1: is not what this is about to me. Like, I

1268
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: want to see good football, but good football sometimes happens

1269
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,480
Speaker 1: with a team that goes nine and seven and has

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Speaker 1: lots of drama too, So uh, there. Yeah, and there's

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Speaker 1: no reason to panic after week one, but some of

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01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: the team not winning, the team kind of having you know,

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01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:08,800
Speaker 1: ten points until the last couple minutes of the game,

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01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: there are some reasons to be concerned that, oh, maybe

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Speaker 1: this is the Tytoons still with Mike mclarkey at the helm,

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Speaker 1: and they won't get it together until they have a

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01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,000
Speaker 1: better structure. Bit of a Mariota meltdown in that game.

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Speaker 1: They also could be a team kind of like those

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01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: Panthers that that it wouldn't surprise me if there are

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01:05:24,760 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 1: two and four team that plays well down the stretch

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01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 1: and is fun fun to take some time to come together.

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Speaker 1: I would I would say if if it's not unanimous,

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01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't really be interested in making the Titans the

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01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: team of a t L anyway, doesn't doesn't If I'll

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01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 1: sign up with the Titans and then they flounder, that

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01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear about it all year doesn't concern me

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Speaker 1: at all. Well, I don't think that there's a big

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01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: caution here because I'm not gonna get on you. Because

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Speaker 1: the Titans, I think they're gonna be fun. I'm confident

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01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: they're gonna be fun to watch, and I think they're

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01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: gonna be more of the team that showed up in

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01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:00,080
Speaker 1: the first half than the team that showed up the

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Speaker 1: second half. Are there other teams that you you know,

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01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: you kind of circling in your mind, Well, there's on

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01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 1: the radar, you know, other teams on the on the

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01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:13,640
Speaker 1: west radar of that you might support this year in general,

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01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:15,920
Speaker 1: not even just the not just the team of ETO.

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01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,440
Speaker 1: There's one that's like every year in my top two

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01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 1: or three teams to watch, and I we don't nominate

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01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 1: them because it would be a shot across marks bow,

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Speaker 1: but the Steelers are would always be in my top

1302
01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,560
Speaker 1: three candidates for Team of a too. I mean you

1303
01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,360
Speaker 1: I talk about getting disengaged from the activity, and I

1304
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: get that I will, by the way, you can watch

1305
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:39,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers, whether the Team of a t L or not.

1306
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:41,680
Speaker 1: So I I they were a fun team. There's no doubt.

1307
01:06:42,040 --> 01:06:43,800
Speaker 1: There are certain teams that I think just have no

1308
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 1: chance to ever be in this exercise. Patriots, Steelers, the Patriots,

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01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,280
Speaker 1: both New York teams, and I think going for an

1310
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: e last team the Seahawks during the Pete Carroll Russell Wilson,

1311
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 1: it would feel weird we're tweeting out. It's like, what

1312
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: about Seahawks or team? What else do you want? Guys?

1313
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: I was gonna say to Browns, but I don't even

1314
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: believe that. I think if the Browns, like I, found

1315
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:12,360
Speaker 1: a quarterback and looked frisky, we could all right. So

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Speaker 1: there you go the nominees for Team of around the NFL.

1317
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 1: The Cincinnati Bengals, the Oakland Raiders, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,

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Speaker 1: and the Tennessee Titans. Nice group of teams. Now we

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01:07:27,480 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 1: find out what happens the next two weeks. Nice group

1320
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: of teams. What if all four lay massive eggs in

1321
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,600
Speaker 1: week two? I mean, just get blown to smithereens. That's

1322
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: why we left a little wiggle room. You could throw

1323
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,880
Speaker 1: somebody else out here, but I think you could change

1324
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: it later. But the truth matter in my mind, unless

1325
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: somebody exploded in the next two weeks, out of nowhere,

1326
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:49,000
Speaker 1: I would be if all these teams bombed in the

1327
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,920
Speaker 1: next couple of weeks, it just might not have a

1328
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Speaker 1: team this year. We shouldn't force it. That would be organic.

1329
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: So we want to be that way. That's a good

1330
01:07:55,520 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: that's a good way. It should have very little to

1331
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:00,920
Speaker 1: do with one one lost record and who's lane like

1332
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 1: lights out after three weeks because that's how the Chargers

1333
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,520
Speaker 1: became the team of atl a couple of years ago,

1334
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:09,280
Speaker 1: and then they cratered after that. All right, So that

1335
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Speaker 1: is it for uh today's show. We will be back

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Speaker 1: Thursday night, late Thursday night, where you'll hear our preview

1337
01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:23,759
Speaker 1: of all the week two games, UM, and also our recap.

1338
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:27,880
Speaker 1: Will start the show with our recap of Jets Bills UM.

1339
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,760
Speaker 1: And after that game, I'll either be gleeful and be

1340
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: and maybe I will send a mess excuse me, we

1341
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: don't use that word around here, UM, A message that hey, guys,

1342
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:40,680
Speaker 1: you know I don't mind talking about the game, or

1343
01:08:41,280 --> 01:08:44,439
Speaker 1: I will be drunk and depressed in a dark room

1344
01:08:44,479 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: in my house. I could go either way. It sounds

1345
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 1: like there's something at stake for your immediate family here

1346
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: as well. So, by the way, if if you're listening now,

1347
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:59,200
Speaker 1: we are gonna do a live periscope of Sunday's podcast.

1348
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:00,800
Speaker 1: I just want to you know, everyone that listened to

1349
01:09:00,840 --> 01:09:02,519
Speaker 1: our podcast, if you like that, it's probably gonna be

1350
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: during Sunday night football. So it's another screen. But if

1351
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,000
Speaker 1: you want to watch us tape our podcast. I have

1352
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: the NFL official social media account, will be sending that

1353
01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:14,000
Speaker 1: out next this Sunday night. Very good, So yes, make

1354
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: sure if you could support us with that as we

1355
01:09:17,560 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: take on the world. I mean, you either with us

1356
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 1: or you're against us, but we're forging on. And that's

1357
01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:30,080
Speaker 1: it for today's show. Until then, Dan Ansons signing off

1358
01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 1: for Quiet Storm, The Mailman, The Boss. Think Irish behind

1359
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:37,919
Speaker 1: that glass? Still Thursday,