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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we're excited about the return

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Speaker 1: of round Ball Rock tonight.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal in.

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Speaker 1: The Chris Wesleyan podcast studio, and perhaps Colleen Wolf doesn't

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Speaker 1: even get that reference.

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Speaker 2: A lot of our listeners won't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 1: It's the John Tesh theme song to the NBA on NBC,

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Speaker 1: which I guess Duh.

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Speaker 2: Is technically a competitor.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like, if you love sports, you are

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Speaker 1: allowed to love other sports.

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Speaker 4: You are you are, but you always have a first love.

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Speaker 4: So first love, first love is obviously football.

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Speaker 2: It's talking with you all you what.

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Speaker 4: Time do we start getting into our existential crises?

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Speaker 1: That is part of the vibe check later in the show. Okay, cool,

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Speaker 1: we're doing a vibe check. We just thought it'd be

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Speaker 1: good to like look at some of the teams around

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Speaker 1: the NFL and wonder, you know, just where they are,

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Speaker 1: look big picture, what the vibes are right now? Are

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Speaker 1: our great producer Eric suggested this segment, But it does

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Speaker 1: go along with something I've been noticing and I sent out,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a tweet, just that I listen to

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Speaker 1: a lot of team centered podcasts and no one's happy,

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Speaker 1: really everyone's complaining, and then of course I get the

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Speaker 1: responses like, hey, you haven't listened to many Chiefs or Patriots.

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Speaker 1: There are there are like a couple exceptions, uh huh,

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Speaker 1: and we might talk about some of those today, But

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Speaker 1: in general, I would say like twenty seven of the

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Speaker 1: fan bases out there are just unhappy at all times.

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Speaker 4: Well because like every single team has flaws. There's not

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Speaker 4: just like there's no team right now that's just like,

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Speaker 4: oh cool, everything's all good, let's onto the next week.

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Speaker 4: Of course you're going to be angry and annoyed and

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Speaker 4: have complaints.

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Speaker 2: I mean not the New York Jets. They're absolutely perfect.

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Speaker 1: Wow. We will start with the news, so we'll zoom

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Speaker 1: through this quickly. We'll do the vibe check, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll talk a little T andF Vikings and Chargers across

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Speaker 2: At so far an interesting one.

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Speaker 1: Those are two fan bases I'm kind of thinking of, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: just like they're they're in the middle, but they're not happy.

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Speaker 1: But Jets fans are next level, and it sounds like

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Speaker 1: their owner is just as unhappy with their quarterback play

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Speaker 1: as some of the fans. Let's listen to Woody Johnson

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Speaker 1: speaking about Justin Fields on Tuesday.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's hard when you have a quarterback with

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Speaker 5: is I mean, he has the ability, but something just

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Speaker 5: is not jibing it. But if you look at any

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Speaker 5: any head coach of the quarterback like that, you're going

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Speaker 5: to see similar results if you will, across the league.

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Speaker 2: You have to play.

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Speaker 5: Consistently with you know, at that position of the and

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Speaker 5: that's what we're going to try to do in the

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Speaker 5: remainder of the season.

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Speaker 2: So to look at some kids, you hope, then you

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Speaker 5: I just think defense, special teams are doing better. Defense

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Speaker 5: is pretty good, and hope we can just complete a pass.

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Speaker 5: Oh look good?

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Speaker 3: Oh no.

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Speaker 1: That's courtesy of Rock from Newsday. Okay, great reporter. I

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Speaker 1: once went to some New York games with back in

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Speaker 1: the day. Wow, I know you're a longtime supporter of

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Speaker 1: the Jets and how everything is is run there.

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Speaker 4: What we're you know what you betcha that the ownership

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Speaker 3: Obviously they have not won a game yet and.

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Speaker 4: Sounds like Tarrod Taylor is going to start next week

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Speaker 4: yes week.

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Speaker 1: What he John said that was at a league meeting,

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Speaker 1: by the way in New York. He said he has

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Speaker 1: no influence on the quarterback decision, but I have a

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Speaker 1: feeling by the time people listen to this, certainly if

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Speaker 3: It's not like.

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Speaker 4: That's a long term solution here either, or it might

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Speaker 4: not even be a long term thing. It could just

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Speaker 4: be maybe this is what gives them a little bit

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Speaker 1: So it's just brutal because Justin Fields is going to

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Speaker 1: the ESPN Jets owner rips. You know, quarterback. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Justin Fields is back with this team next year. I

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Speaker 1: thought about GM Darren Mujie, who gave Justin Fields thirty

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Speaker 1: million dollars guaranteed on a two year, forty million dollar contract.

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Speaker 1: This was their first big decision. Obviously it's not working out.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Justin Fields gets back in the mix at some point.

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Speaker 1: Tyrod hasn't been able to stay healthy. Let's let's talk

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Speaker 1: more fun news. Talk about you like fun. The vibes

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Speaker 1: are better in Philadelphia because Brandon Graham has unre tired.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad we haven't really hit this on the show. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we've got you to just celebrate.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So the win for the Eagles over the Carson

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Speaker 4: now you have Brandon Graham returning to his rightful spot.

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Speaker 4: I know that he's an older guy now what he's

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Speaker 4: thirty seven, and he did have pretty much a perfect

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Speaker 4: storybook ending to his career aside from the injury. You

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Speaker 4: win a Super Bowl, you get a Super Bowl ring,

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Speaker 4: and then you retire and you.

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Speaker 2: Go on NFL Daily actually with Jordan and I right.

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Speaker 4: After that, it doesn't get a storybook ending part. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: So I think that he never really wanted to fully retire,

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Speaker 4: and I know after they made the move for Zadarius Smith,

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Speaker 4: So when Zadarius Smith ended up surprisingly retiring out of nowhere,

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Speaker 4: it also opened the door then for Brandon Graham to

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Speaker 4: come back. And now he breaks his own record as

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Speaker 4: the longest tenured Eagle.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so sixteen seasons. And like he's such a talk

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Speaker 4: about vibes. He's such a great vibes guy. He's perfect

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Speaker 4: And maybe that's done now, maybe everyone has turned a

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Speaker 3: Is absolutely fine.

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Speaker 4: But if not, he's a wonderful presence to have in there,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was the man who knocked the ball

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Speaker 2: I did that was amazing.

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Speaker 1: I consider it our history, even though you know it's

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Speaker 1: more just we stuck a microphone in your face while

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Speaker 3: That's all right, that's what you do with family.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Graham has a podcast. I was wondering is that

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Speaker 1: podcast going to continue? It's on all PHL. Why it's

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Speaker 1: called the Unblocked Podcast. If I had done better prep,

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Speaker 1: I would have texted its host, our friend Bo Wolf

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Speaker 2: But we'll see a few returns, whether.

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Speaker 4: The podcast give him a call live on the show continues.

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Speaker 1: I think his show is on literally live right now,

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Speaker 1: And he spoke about the decision, and you mentioned it

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Speaker 1: he didn't really return this year because frankly, they just

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Speaker 1: Eventually they get Nolan Smith back, Jylex Hunt has It's

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Speaker 1: been a little bit of a disappointment, but the Ultimate

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Speaker 1: Some quick injury news before we get to our segment. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young has a high ankle sprain, which means we

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Speaker 1: have the return of the red rifle, Andy Dalton for

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Speaker 1: the four and three Panthers rivalry game with the Bills.

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Speaker 1: And you ask why is it a rivalry Because Sean

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Speaker 1: I do really believe good coaches show their work and

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Speaker 1: like they fixed it. And Sean McDermott is a good coach,

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Speaker 3: I wonder what adjustments they would make.

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Speaker 1: It could be personnel, like the way they're deploying some

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Speaker 2: I don't really know. But this is a tough running

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Speaker 1: Right now, How are you feeling by the way you're.

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Speaker 3: You know, I feel good just in general.

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Speaker 2: You're usually in the host chair.

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Speaker 1: You know, you did the coverage from four in the

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Speaker 1: morning doing the London game on Sunday, and then you

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Speaker 2: That's what you were doing, and now.

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Speaker 1: Like you just just get to come in and just

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Speaker 2: Isn't that easier this?

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Speaker 4: I listen wherever I need to go. I'm a good

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Speaker 4: utility player. You need me to host, no problem. You

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Speaker 4: vibes queen you are. That's the natural spot.

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Speaker 1: You are the vibes queen, and I think you're doing

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Speaker 1: a great job. By the way, we're coming on too.

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Speaker 1: By the way, it was a lot of fun Jordan

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Speaker 1: rod Rieg for everyone that is concerned little under the weather.

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Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett. Let's talk vibes. Okay, the vibes are always

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Speaker 1: It's more than occasional. Let's let's talk vibe check. We're

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Speaker 1: is the Brandon Graham podcast continuing, okay called Unblocked.

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Speaker 1: There's like triple meetings there if you really want to

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Speaker 3: That's great, that's good, good money in the bank.

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Speaker 1: about expectations.

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Speaker 2: I kind of love it for them.

442
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Speaker 3: Those are the scariest types of teams.

443
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 4: The house money teams are always the ones that end

444
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:22,080
Speaker 4: up being either the chaos makers or the ones that

445
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Speaker 4: kind of shine through and get through to the other side.

446
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Speaker 4: I'd say they're really resilient to you, like this would

447
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,800
Speaker 4: be Did I hear it on your pod on this

448
00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 4: pod that this was Christian McCaffrey's first game with two

449
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Speaker 4: hundred scrimmage yards since he was with the Panthers.

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Speaker 2: No, that means you're listening to another podcast.

451
00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 3: No, I must have had it on.

452
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 4: It could the contract, a television show, It could have

453
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,919
Speaker 4: been serious radio, it could have been honestly anything.

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Speaker 3: Maybe it was a dream. Maybe it's not even true.

455
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Speaker 1: But I know you've seen that contract recently, Like it's

456
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Speaker 1: it's in there.

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Speaker 2: Must not I know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like it's basically like a damn it. I

459
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Speaker 4: forgot the word. Uh, what is it called when you

460
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:12,480
Speaker 4: have to sign and I don't know, Like you can't,

461
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 4: you can't turn around and talk about what has happened.

462
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Speaker 4: I'm like, nondisclosed, UNPOs your agreement. Yeah, and NDA, that's it.

463
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Speaker 4: I was DNA was the only thing that was in.

464
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Speaker 4: Everything's fine, But you think about.

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Speaker 2: Some of those late Connie Knights where she does let loose.

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Speaker 3: You know, I haven't had a lot of sleep past

467
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Speaker 3: couple of days, and I wonder why I can't remember anything.

468
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Speaker 3: We both have dementia. It's fine.

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Speaker 4: I'd say it's a lot of positivity around the forty

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Speaker 4: nine ers.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry for sidetracking you there because you were absolutely rolling.

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Speaker 1: Bittersweet could be like a word that popped in my

473
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Speaker 1: head at first, because I think if you're a fan

474
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Speaker 1: of the team, it's interesting that this team I think

475
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Speaker 1: is going to end up being more fun than the

476
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Speaker 1: last few. But there will maybe be a nagging thought that, man,

477
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Speaker 1: if we had boson corner, like we'd be super Bowl

478
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:10,480
Speaker 1: contenders and crazier things have happened. But I think sometimes

479
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Speaker 1: it's good to to lower your expectations, and I think

480
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,800
Speaker 1: going into this season, the expectations were lower felt like

481
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Speaker 1: a little bit of a rebuilt and now it's even lower,

482
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Speaker 1: so this is this is fun.

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Speaker 4: I was at by the way he played well in

484
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Speaker 4: really really well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing like with their linebackers,

487
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,080
Speaker 1: but there it's an excellent system, I guess for linebackers,

488
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: but like de Winters is playing well, Drake green Law

489
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Speaker 1: obviously was there and used to be great like linebacker University.

490
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Speaker 1: So I was at a concert when Saturday Night, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Ryle o'kilie wax a HATCHI opening probably not bands you know,

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Speaker 1: like a lot of people are familiar with, but I

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Speaker 1: there was some lyrics I'm gonna read them from a

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Speaker 1: Ryle o'kilie song.

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sing it.

496
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Speaker 1: But I thought, uh, it was germane to what the

497
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Speaker 1: forty nine ers are right now, and the lyrics are

498
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes when you're on, like you're really on,

499
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Speaker 1: and your friends they sing along and they love you,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's like the forty nine ers when everything

501
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: is like it is just you know, going crazy for

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan and the forty nine ers. But the lows

503
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 1: are so extreme that the good seems cheap, and it

504
00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: teases you for weeks in its absence. Whoa, But you'll fight,

505
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: you'll make it through, and you'll fake it if you

506
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,159
Speaker 1: have to, and you'll show up for work with a smile,

507
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,520
Speaker 1: and you'll be better and you'll be smarter, and we're

508
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Speaker 1: growing up and it goes goes on from there and

509
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Speaker 1: to me, to me that like the song it is

510
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Speaker 1: an amazing song shout out to a Better Son Daughter

511
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Speaker 1: by Riley Kyleie. But like, to me, that was a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a it was a little bit of

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, Like I think the the absence

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Speaker 1: of like the lows are so low for this team, yea,

515
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Speaker 1: that you're like, is it Sometimes I watch Kyle Shanahan,

516
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Speaker 1: it's almost like he thinks, like is it even worth

517
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Speaker 1: it chasing this?

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: No, he's like he's given up a bit, but he's

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Speaker 3: in that.

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Speaker 1: He's in that place, like it teases you for weeks.

522
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: Right now, I think they're on, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: I think this coaching staff and everything about them is

524
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Speaker 1: that they're on. And when they're on, like they're really

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Speaker 1: going on.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a lot of f bombs I know Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I was I was gonna warn the producers, but.

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Speaker 3: They well they've been warned right there.

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Speaker 2: In the lyrics. They know. Let's take a quick break.

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Speaker 2: We'll be back with more vibe checks.

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Speaker 1: Back on NFL Daily where Colleen was struggling to remember

532
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,399
Speaker 1: the difference between NDA and DNA.

533
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Speaker 3: Not the difference between it's just my happen.

534
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,240
Speaker 4: Dyslexic brain was only giving me DNA when I was

535
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Speaker 4: searching for NDA.

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Speaker 2: DNA A classic. You know.

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Speaker 1: Kendrick Thong, right, NDA an underrated Billie Eilis Thong.

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Speaker 3: He didn't Wow, look at you.

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Speaker 1: I also love the Kendrick Drake world series that's going on.

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Speaker 4: This is uh wow, you're right, you're really plugged into

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Speaker 4: the music world.

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Speaker 3: Delaware zone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how are you doing, fellow kids, Let's go with

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00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: another vibe.

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Speaker 2: Check for you?

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Speaker 3: Okay for me?

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Speaker 4: This is actually for you, Greg, It's for the Patriots.

548
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Speaker 4: And I would call the vibes there bro optimistic, which

549
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 4: is bro optimistic. And I just feel that Mike Rabel

550
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 4: brings this bro energy in the best way possible, and

551
00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 4: his leadership and his presence has completely changed everything the

552
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 4: mood around this organization. And then Drake May, what he's

553
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Speaker 4: been able to do, his growth, and the fact that

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00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,160
Speaker 4: the team is on a four game winning streak, they're

555
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 4: at the top of the division that it feels like

556
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,920
Speaker 4: this turnaround has happened sooner than at least I expected it.

557
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 4: And players like Remondre Stevenson are looking better because the

558
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 4: blocking is better, and Stefan Diggs another good performance from him,

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Speaker 4: and Kayshawn Boody.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, Boody, we see you.

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Speaker 4: So I just I'm feeling I feel good that I

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Speaker 4: will have a happy Rosenthal in my life.

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Speaker 1: The vibes around this team are are incredible right now,

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Speaker 1: let's actually listen to some of them. This is Mike

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Speaker 1: Rabel in Drake May in the locker room after beating

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Speaker 1: Rabel's old o's.

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Speaker 2: Gonna breakdown for coach and Tennessee coaches. Coach Rabel, we

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00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: love playing for you, for sure, Glad you're a head

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Speaker 2: coach and we love to coach upright.

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Speaker 1: Three two?

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Speaker 2: Okay, I do love that.

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Speaker 4: It's so weird for me to be talking positive about

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Speaker 4: the Patriots, but this is a different Patriots team and

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Speaker 4: Mike Rabel, anytime you have a team that is so

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Speaker 4: genuinely excited, and you know how much I love anything

576
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,200
Speaker 4: that's petty.

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00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 3: And here we're able to.

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Speaker 4: Go and to beat the team that he was fired

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Speaker 4: from right after they fired his replacement, and do it

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Speaker 4: the way they did.

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Speaker 3: Yes, assign me up. I'm all in on that.

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Speaker 1: The biggest takeaway for me whenever I see moments like

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Speaker 1: that with Drake me is he looks like he's fourteen

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00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: years old. Well he does, and he really is young.

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Speaker 1: He's twenty three years old, Like he's a couple you

586
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 1: just turned twenty three. He's he's a couple of years

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Speaker 1: younger than Bo Nicks and Michael Pennix and hell, he's

588
00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: younger than cam Ward who would just beat Like.

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Speaker 2: He's all that matters.

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Speaker 1: I've been saying that on this this show for a while,

591
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: like the only thing that matters about this team is

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Speaker 1: Drake May and the fact that he is this level

593
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: is next level that that he is showing he's got

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Speaker 1: a chance to be like a top five quarterback long term. Now,

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00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: I do want to point out, and I've been trying

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00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: to tell this to my Patriots schedules, it really does

597
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 1: matter like a ton Like if they had played let's

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Speaker 1: say the Seahawks like some the AFC South has been

599
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 1: stuck playing the NFC West like all in a row,

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Speaker 1: like the Jaguars and everything. They'd played the Rams, the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks and the forty nine. It was like they'd have

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Speaker 1: a couple l's and Drake May would probably have a

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Speaker 1: game where he didn't look so great. He certainly wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be like setting all these rugs. That's just how it is.

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00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: Aaron Shotts runs.

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Speaker 2: You know.

607
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: The FDN sites used to be football outsiders. Their numbers

608
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,680
Speaker 1: say that the New England Patrio have the easiest schedule

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Speaker 1: that they've ever recorded going back to nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: Not just the schedule that they've played so far, which

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Speaker 1: has been cake, but taking the teams and how they've

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Speaker 1: done so far this year moving forward, it is the

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Speaker 1: single easiest schedule.

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Speaker 2: Any team has had in forty something years.

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Speaker 3: Thank god, they finally caught a break.

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Speaker 2: So bad so that's part of it. It's part of it.

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Speaker 2: But what can you do?

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Speaker 4: And it is wild when you look at the wins

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Speaker 4: they beat well, they actually when they lost to the Raiders,

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Speaker 4: which that should have been a win. But the Dolphins,

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Speaker 4: I mean, what the Pans.

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Speaker 1: They did beat the Bills, but Saint Titans Browns are

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Speaker 1: coming up, like they just don't have a lot of

624
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: tough spots on their their schedule, but it does get

625
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: a little harder. Playing the Jets and Dolphins four times

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Speaker 1: is a gift to both the Bills, yes, and the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, that that clip was amazing. I suggest people

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Speaker 1: watch it because there's a moment when Stefan did kind

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00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: of shakes Rabel from behind where for like one second

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Speaker 1: it looks like Rabel wants to turn around and swing.

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00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,040
Speaker 2: And everyone clocked this too, that watched it.

632
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 1: And then he's like fine, but like whoever, like digs

633
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 1: hit him too hard and he just like had that

634
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 1: like masculine energy that was like and then he was.

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Speaker 4: Like, I mean, imagine the adrenaline, like the fight or

636
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: flight that it's happening, and it's all fight for all

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00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 4: of those players in there.

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Speaker 3: I would imagine stuff like that happens quite a bit.

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00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: Okay, the vibes have been too good in this segment.

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00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: Let's let's take it. Let's bring it down or not

641
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: bring it down. Okay, let's let's talk about the comedies. Okay,

642
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: the Washington Commanders their vibrate. Now is is very like betrayed,

643
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: betrayed boyfriend. They seem so shocked that this is happening

644
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 1: to them. I heard dan Quinn after the game and

645
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: they asked like if he's he was surprised about how

646
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 1: things are going. He was just like, yes, very And

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00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,240
Speaker 1: the week before was a very similar vibe. And I

648
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: was thinking about the the Bears Washington matchup from a

649
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: year ago and how that was just a moment in

650
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: time where the two organizations like went their separate ways.

651
00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: And now I do wonder if, like, for this season,

652
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: it's going to be similar because the Bears, who probably

653
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: you know, feel like they stole that game a little bit.

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00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,239
Speaker 1: Everything's great there and Washington seems a little bit of

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00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: a mess. He said he was, you know, dan Quinn,

656
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: who's usually so happy, was like, he said, he was

657
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: hot at the end of that first half. When they

658
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: gave up that really quick drive to the Cowboys last week,

659
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 1: some of the defenders were, you know, were saying that

660
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: they were pissed and that they were embarrassed. I remember

661
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: Jaden Daniels, it was a big thing this week, you know,

662
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 1: told dan Quinn about his interception against the Bears and

663
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: the mistakes. He's like, he told dan Quinn, he called

664
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 1: him and he said that will never happen again.

665
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, like, what, well, it will happen.

666
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry, But it's almost like last year was such

667
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 1: a magical ride for them, and they really believe coming

668
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,480
Speaker 1: into this season, despite some signs from the outside that

669
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: it might be tough to stay at that level, they

670
00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: didn't believe that, and so they just feel a little

671
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: thrown back right now, and the vibes are not good.

672
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 1: It's like they've been betrayed by their own expectations.

673
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,959
Speaker 4: All So in my head, I'm thinking about how it

674
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: feels sort of like a person who came from nothing,

675
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: no money, and they win the lottery and then they

676
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 4: find out that they've their identity has been stolen and

677
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,800
Speaker 4: now they're bankrupt. This was a team that suffered through

678
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 4: so many years of dysfunction and just no hope whatsoever,

679
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 4: and then they hit on the quarterback, everything's going right.

680
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 4: They end up in the NFC Championship Game, one game

681
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 4: away from the Super Bowl with this new ownership in leadership,

682
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 4: and you would have to imagine as a commander's fan,

683
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 4: you're thinking, oh my God.

684
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: Finally, finally we're.

685
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,320
Speaker 4: Just like out of whatever that was and now it

686
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 4: feels like just everything is falling apart again. Now not

687
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 4: to that level, but I would imagine if you lived

688
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 4: in that space for so long that you would feel

689
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 4: like that's exactly where you're got to.

690
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: This is good.

691
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,760
Speaker 1: This is why Colleen gets the big box. He's using

692
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: her astute psychological.

693
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 3: Yes, it's all psychological.

694
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: Like investment and just interpretation here that you're right. I

695
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: think it is the past drama because that's kind of

696
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 1: been My reaction from the outside is like, calm down, guys.

697
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: You've had a million injuries and that sucks, but you've

698
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 1: had a million injuries.

699
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 3: Sarramclaur is not out there. Deebo Samuel's not out there.

700
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels is hurt.

701
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: Like in you're three and four and one of those

702
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,360
Speaker 1: losses was extremely fluky. To the Bears, it's like you

703
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 1: probably should be four and three, like these are the

704
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: things that happened. But it's the generational trauma, not just

705
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: from Dan Snyder but from Robert Griffin. Third, did you

706
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: see that Jaden Daniels' mom asked everyone to kind of

707
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: keep RG three's name out of their mouths.

708
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, that's just going to lead to more RG three.

709
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: Well that's what she was saying.

710
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: She said, I wish you would stop manifesting RG three

711
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 1: on my son. Words are powerful, and that's all that's

712
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,320
Speaker 1: talked about. Now. I'm not locked into Commander's Twitter, so

713
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,439
Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't know anyone was talking

714
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: about that. That's stupid to talk about. Well, but then

715
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: she puts it out there now, and.

716
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,760
Speaker 3: Because they went to the title game.

717
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Right, there are similarities, but I think Jaden Daniels is

718
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: made of different stuff as just as in terms of

719
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,600
Speaker 1: his NFL skill set that it's more stable and long term.

720
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about the person. I'm just talking about,

721
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,799
Speaker 1: you know. And he's had a couple of injuries this year.

722
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think that means he's going to have

723
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: a lot of injuries long term.

724
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: No, I just this. I think the fans should.

725
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 4: Be able to like, they should be able to do

726
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 4: whatever they want, obviously, but it just feels like it's

727
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: not as bad as it is seeming with all of

728
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 4: the injuries and the results, Like this is still a

729
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 4: good team and they prove that last year.

730
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:19,760
Speaker 3: I don't think that it was a fluke.

731
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 4: I think that they have a lot of good foundational pieces.

732
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 1: I did too, and it's an older team. They on defense,

733
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,360
Speaker 1: they haven't been tackling well, there's been a lot of injuries,

734
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: they haven't been getting takeaways. And yeah, they have a

735
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 1: tough game this week at Kansas City, so they're going

736
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,840
Speaker 1: to be in the spotlight. And Jade Daniels might not

737
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,959
Speaker 1: be playing. We didn't mention as part of the news.

738
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: He is uncertain for week eight after that hamstring injury.

739
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 1: And they did lose who's probably been their best pass rusher,

740
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: Dran's Armstrong for this season, so that that was bad

741
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,959
Speaker 1: news for the for the Commanders. But just calm down,

742
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: like this is not the old Commanders, And even if

743
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: they go eight to nine or nine and eight, it's

744
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: like that's a totally normal thing to happen after your

745
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: first big season. I'm already thinking I'm a terrible fan.

746
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,879
Speaker 1: I'm already thinking as a Patriots fan, I'm not living

747
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: in the moment of like, well, next year there will

748
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: be like a major schedule correction and it'll be much

749
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 1: harder to rack up. However many wins they wind up racking.

750
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:11,680
Speaker 1: That's just just how the NFL works.

751
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: All right, you're a realist. It'll give you one more.

752
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 4: Okay, Oh, we're gonna go down south to Miami.

753
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 2: Ooh.

754
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 4: The vibes with the Dolphins. I'm not even sure where

755
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 4: to start. It's almost like they are too numb but

756
00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: to care, but also still mad about what's happening. Or

757
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 4: it's like apoplectic, just completely furious, and the rage is

758
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 4: just boiling because nothing seems to be functioning correctly in Miami.

759
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 4: And there's got to be disappointment obviously with the way

760
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 4: that this like anger has kind of manifested and with

761
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 4: the team and all of the dysfunction and dissension. But

762
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:04,719
Speaker 4: Mike McDaniels, the press conferences have been so weird with him.

763
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 4: I don't know what is going on. It seems like

764
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: there's a bigger issue behind the scenes.

765
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: I have a theory at least a little bit with

766
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 1: their It's like his press conference has always been weird

767
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: in rambling. Don't they see now people are they do

768
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: seem weirder. Something seems up between him and Tua. I

769
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: don't think that's reading into it too much, Okay, Yeah.

770
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 4: And they are clearly this poor start, it's nothing is

771
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 4: getting better. I felt like Tua calling out his teammates

772
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,920
Speaker 4: was a cry for help, but it's I don't know

773
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 4: what they do at this point. It felt like Tyreek

774
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: Hill was not that upset about not being able to play,

775
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 4: like on a team that is now that's brutal one

776
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:49,680
Speaker 4: and six.

777
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: So and you have Darren Waller who's hurt.

778
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 4: It's just it's a mess and I don't know how

779
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: they fix it, but there should be. I don't want

780
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:05,279
Speaker 4: to call for someone's job, but there needs to be

781
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 4: some type of changes here.

782
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: Ian Rappaport said, you know, no changes are expected. He

783
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: was talking about this week with Mike McDaniel, and yeah,

784
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: they'll make that change at some point, so why wait.

785
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 1: But it's not going to solve anything, no, right, Like

786
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: I do hate it for Dolphins fans, and there's so many.

787
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: It's a great fan base down there. They have maybe

788
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: the biggest international and when I say that, I really

789
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: mean London, Like they might be the most popular team

790
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 1: in London. Maybe the Patriots got there because they won

791
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: so much over the years, but there's so many Dolphins

792
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:42,399
Speaker 1: fans over there. Did I did the game over there

793
00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 1: in London with Simon Clancy, who's a big fan, and

794
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,160
Speaker 1: our friend Henry Hodgson and everything, and the vibe I

795
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: get is the most dangerous for any organization, that it's

796
00:39:53,920 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: teetering from disappointment and anger to apathy. Apathy. Apathy is

797
00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: the worst ambivalence and acceptance of like, yeah, that's what

798
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: we are.

799
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 2: We're the worst.

800
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: And that's a good point. And that means you're gonna

801
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: start seeing empty seats there.

802
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 2: It's tough. Here.

803
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: Here's one of the craziest Mike McDaniel quotes from this week.

804
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 3: Oh god, this is because a.

805
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 1: Question about the games. I can't believe actually more wasn't

806
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: made of this one. In particular, he said, I don't

807
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 1: have an opinion on the two teams in the game

808
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: because we didn't participate in the game in my opinion.

809
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: Oh my god.

810
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: And then he went on to say it typically like

811
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 1: it's never a clean SoundBite with him.

812
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 2: It goes on.

813
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: He sort of rambled, and he said, well, he did

814
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: think they're want to was there, but their desire to

815
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 1: execute the actual assignment slash game plan was not.

816
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 2: I mean, if that you're talking about a cry for help.

817
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: Oh.

818
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:02,600
Speaker 2: He just said, he said, hello, Stephen Ross, my boss.

819
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, my players are trying, but they're actually not

820
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:11,280
Speaker 1: trying to do what we're saying that as a coaching staff. Correct,

821
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: That's it's crazy.

822
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 4: Between that and what Woody Johnson said, the AFC East

823
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 4: has two teams that have serious problems here that need

824
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,440
Speaker 4: to like make changes and.

825
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 3: Figure it out.

826
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: Everyone loves to point that out about the Patriots dynasty,

827
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 1: just how bad that division was throughout and the Bills

828
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: have have been beating up on some pretty weak opponents

829
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:39,280
Speaker 1: for the last four or five years. Now the Patriots

830
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: are in the mix, but man, yeah, it is rough.

831
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: They're in the AFC S.

832
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 3: All right, let's Miami.

833
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 2: Let's wrap up. Should we're Miami?

834
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 4: Right?

835
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 1: Should I go Colts your team, let's do it? Or

836
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: should I go Falcons? Well, feel like we only have

837
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: room for one. Okay, all right Falcons quickly. I'm not

838
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: going to do them. They're just confused, Like they're the

839
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 1: most confusing team. Like they are the picture of what

840
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: the NFL is right now, which is like what even

841
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 1: are you? You're always in primetime? Your defense is great?

842
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: What like I have a pass rush?

843
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 3: I it's so confused, But.

844
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,359
Speaker 1: But you have like John Robinson playing great and Drake

845
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: Glennon playing great and Michael Pennox, like I have a

846
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: lot of hope for it, and yet the offense is confusing.

847
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: It's not great like win loss, win lot like they're

848
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: just confusing. Let's let's talk Colts because the fact that

849
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: you didn't bring them up to me was disappointing.

850
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 2: I would describe their vibe as exultant.

851
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 3: Ooh, jubilant, incredibly confident.

852
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 2: This has been your team forever.

853
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 3: Idn't Rake I wanted.

854
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:39,680
Speaker 4: Didn't want people to be like, oh my god, just

855
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 4: talking about the Colts again.

856
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Like, no, I don't want.

857
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 4: To jinx them either, because seems like every time I

858
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 4: get behind this team, they don't take that next step.

859
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 4: Now they are now. I just want to sit back

860
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 4: and watch. I don't have to be part of it,

861
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 4: even though in my heart of hearts I am it

862
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 4: feels like my adopted AFC team. But Daniel Jones is

863
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:01,240
Speaker 4: playing so well. You have Jonathan Taylor doing his thing again.

864
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 4: I can't believe that they are six and one, And

865
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: we talked about this yesterday on the Rich Eisen Show

866
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 4: that Daniel Jones I just am not sure that he

867
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 4: has gotten the Giants stink off of him. Yet even

868
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 4: though he's playing at the level he is and he's

869
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 4: protecting the football, he's making good decisions. This offense is

870
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 4: running so well, the offense is running how they've always

871
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 4: wanted this offense to run.

872
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 3: And he still I don't think gets that at.

873
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 1: All, No, because people think they haven't really watched him.

874
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: Even that Chargers game, which was for the number one

875
00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 1: seed in the AFC, was at four or five, like

876
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: Eastern buried behind the actual national games that week. It

877
00:43:45,239 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: is a good case study in market size, and I

878
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: think the coach Shane Stike and not being particularly media friendly,

879
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: like if Sean McVeigh had a team that was as

880
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: historically good as this Colts team in Los Angeles or

881
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: god forbid, like a New York team was this good

882
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: on offense with like you know, a Parcels type of

883
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: media friendly type running the show, It's.

884
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 2: All we'd ever hear about.

885
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 1: They'd be be number one story because that they are

886
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 1: playing and I said exultant. Not really in terms of

887
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: their press conferences, so those those have been great too,

888
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: but just the way that they're playing football. They're like

889
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: playing football with joy, with no fear.

890
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 4: They're like a quiet machine though in terms of the media,

891
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 4: so they're just lurking and everybody sees the standings and everyone.

892
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:40,800
Speaker 2: Kind of a crank.

893
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: I kind of think he he pushes the media away consistently,

894
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 1: not in a like this that's who he is, like,

895
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 1: so that that might be a little part of it.

896
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: So he doesn't have those like maybe he doesn't have

897
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 1: the insiders in his pocket, you know what I mean,

898
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:55,840
Speaker 1: Like like different coaches have you know, they were like,

899
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,359
Speaker 1: oh can I put Tom Pelisero here? And maybe I'll

900
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: put Ian Rapport in my back pop and we got

901
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: Deannasini over here, and it's like they're all buddies. And

902
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: I don't get that sense from Stichen. He doesn't give

903
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 1: you anything.

904
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: What if Shane Steichen had the personality of Rex Ryan right,

905
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 4: like exactly would be a supernova.

906
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: Right, you know, who's been showing them a little bit

907
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:22,040
Speaker 1: more personality. I loved this postgame interview on the field

908
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones and Evan Washburn from CBS.

909
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: Not that you care, but those of us on the outside,

910
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 3: I think are a little surprised just how well this.

911
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: Team is playing to start the season.

912
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:34,319
Speaker 3: What do we need to know about this group that

913
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: maybe we didn't know going into the year.

914
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. It sounds like sounds like

915
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: y'all didn't know much. But we're just gonna keep going,

916
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: keep working, and we have a lot of confidence.

917
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 3: I think we got a lot of good players, guys who.

918
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: Work hard and do the right things.

919
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 3: I love this version of Daniel Jones.

920
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 1: It's disarming and he had such a big smile there

921
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 1: and I saw it in this interview he did with

922
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: the Mannings too.

923
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 2: Was it for the Manning cast?

924
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: I can't remember, but he had this huge spile and

925
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: I was thinking, like, you.

926
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: Know what, I don't think I've ever seen Dana jen

927
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 2: look different.

928
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 4: He looks physically different because he's happy.

929
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 2: He's got the like the way of New York Officioal.

930
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: Just a couple of little just examples, and then we'll

931
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 1: wrap up this talk a little, Tina. There was a

932
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: play last week and it just felt like a miracle

933
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 1: anytime the Colts would even be in a difficult down

934
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: and distance situation. In that game, it was one of

935
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: the best offensive performances of the year, maybe the best

936
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: against against the Chargers, and they were in a third

937
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,880
Speaker 1: and seventeen, You're like, all right, maybe finally the Chargers,

938
00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, get off the field, and then they run

939
00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: this beautiful route where Alex Pierce goes to the inside.

940
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones is protected well and he just like lets

941
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,120
Speaker 1: it go like a total bomb on third and seventeen,

942
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: hits it down the field. There was another throw that

943
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: he didn't hit in the second half. I think it

944
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,520
Speaker 1: was on a second down too, where he threw the

945
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: ball Daniel Jones, you don't think of him sixty three

946
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: air yard. I threw it from like the twenty five

947
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: down to like inside the other twenty and it was

948
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 1: well covered. He put that thing like what would have

949
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 1: been on the hands man. I forget who the receiver

950
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: was on the play, might have been Pittman there and

951
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: and it was broken up because he really wasn't open it.

952
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: It was double team, but it was exactly where it

953
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: needed to be, like on a time, just a total

954
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: like I'm so much confident.

955
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 2: I'm so confident right now. They are great running the ball.

956
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: At the end of games, as has happened the last

957
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: two weeks, you know that situation where it's like the

958
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: other team knows you're going to run, you just need

959
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:36,399
Speaker 1: one more first down to finish. So they just put

960
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: eight in the box and they just get it. Anyways,

961
00:47:38,760 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: like they're better running the ball when the other team

962
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,399
Speaker 1: knows they're going to run the ball than almost any

963
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: team is in a normal, normal situation.

964
00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: Of Saquon last year, Yes, like he was.

965
00:47:49,719 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: Everyone knew that Taquon was going to run and he

966
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 4: was still able to break free no matter what. Also

967
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 4: the throw to Michael Pittman in the first half, that

968
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:00,279
Speaker 4: touch down.

969
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 3: I mean, he Daniel Jones.

970
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 4: Is doing things that I didn't think i'd ever see.

971
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones.

972
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 2: Do you know? You know what he is?

973
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: Which is a word that we should bring back. I

974
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: think it's been unfairly maligned over the years. He's cock sure.

975
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 1: You know what is it? Cock sure?

976
00:48:15,960 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 2: Yeah?

977
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: That is just a word I feel like doesn't get

978
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: thrown out as much anymore because I don't need the

979
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: smell that like lingy. It's it's spelled exactly how you

980
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: would think it would just but it just means, you know,

981
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 1: extremely confident, and you know it's a real word.

982
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 3: It sounds like a town in England exactly.

983
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:37,920
Speaker 1: It seems very British and then it sounds phallic and

984
00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 1: untilke and so then people don't really say it anymore.

985
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: But if you like read old like a Jane Austen book,

986
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:44,839
Speaker 1: like you'll see some cock shure.

987
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: I would like for the word bum to be brought back,

988
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: like calling bums. I think that's yeah, just like my

989
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,719
Speaker 4: grandfather called everyone a bum and I'm yeah, I miss it.

990
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: That's it's nostalgic for me.

991
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, I mean, and you're not calling it's

992
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 4: not a personal attack.

993
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not calling unhoused or homeless people. You're no, you're.

994
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,839
Speaker 1: Saying it to like he's a bomb, he gave up

995
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: on the play, your friend or an athlete or something

996
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,560
Speaker 1: like that. You're using it in that sort of way. Yeah,

997
00:49:13,840 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 1: bring bump back. There was this moment this will wrap

998
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:21,799
Speaker 1: up vibes last week watching the Colts. They had a

999
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: kick return right after a Charger score actually made it

1000
00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 1: a one score game. Was the only moment where there

1001
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 1: was like a little bit of uncertainty. And they had

1002
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: a long kick return by a mere Abdullah by the way,

1003
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: who's still in the NFL. And they showed this shot

1004
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:39,720
Speaker 1: on CBS of all the offensive linemen like getting ready

1005
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: to go on the field all together with Daniel Jones,

1006
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 1: and they were all so excited to like get back

1007
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: on the field. And it's so excited that the kick

1008
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: return was so good, and like one of them like

1009
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,359
Speaker 1: shakes Daniel Jones. It was almost like, can you believe it?

1010
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: It got to the thirty and we get to play

1011
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: football again.

1012
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 2: They're just like.

1013
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 3: So it was like an eighty one yard return.

1014
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just they were just so oh in it.

1015
00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 2: I love it.

1016
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 1: Your team the team of the year right now. I

1017
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 1: mean they have all top powering. Okay, let's take one

1018
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 1: more break and we'll wrap it up on the other.

1019
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:21,760
Speaker 1: You know who's not the team of the year the

1020
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,520
Speaker 1: Los Angeles charts. You know who else is? The Minnesota Vikings.

1021
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: The vibes here aren't great. Even though the Chargers are

1022
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: four and three, you know, they're one and three in

1023
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: their last four games. They're defensive numbers over that stretch

1024
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,160
Speaker 1: are among the worst in the NFL. The Vikings kind

1025
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,920
Speaker 1: of the other way around. The defense has been good

1026
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:44,240
Speaker 1: but not great. I think they've been part of the problem.

1027
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: But man, their fans are just furious at the entire

1028
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:53,440
Speaker 1: Carson Wentz experience. Both of these teams and their fans

1029
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: are angry for different reasons. I think the Chargers are

1030
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, they're like their fan base and I

1031
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 1: listened this great podcast Guilty as Charge, like they expect

1032
00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,319
Speaker 1: this more because it's the Chargers. The Vikings had a

1033
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,279
Speaker 1: lot of optimism this year, like new franchise quarterback. They

1034
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: thought they were really gonna build and be a fun

1035
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: team this year, and so they're angrier. The Chargers are

1036
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 1: favored by three points in this game. Give me your

1037
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:19,800
Speaker 1: your favorite talking point.

1038
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,240
Speaker 4: Going well, I'm kind of upset that my favorite talking

1039
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 4: point is not going to be a talking point because

1040
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 4: we don't get the JJ McCarthy Jim Harball reunion year

1041
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 4: that would have been really nice.

1042
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,319
Speaker 2: They can say hi.

1043
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 1: But Carson Wentz was announced as the starter on Tuesday,

1044
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: and it's going to be another week with Max Brozmer

1045
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: as the backup. They're saying JJ McCarthy is getting close

1046
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 1: if the game was Sunday, even all that, it just

1047
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,799
Speaker 1: feels like they feel like the time is right for

1048
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: him to start in week nine, that they're trying to

1049
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 1: get him ready. Year they have nine, they have the Lions,

1050
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:00,359
Speaker 1: which is a very difficult game. But I think it's

1051
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: more mentally physically he's coming off that injury that they

1052
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: think that's the right time for him.

1053
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 2: So it will be Carson Wentz for another week.

1054
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 4: Okay, so Carson Wentz, who had a very inconsistent game

1055
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,359
Speaker 4: against the Eagles. First half was awful and he got

1056
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 4: a little bit better in the second half. But I

1057
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: think for the Chargers, I look at this team that

1058
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 4: started so hot right out the gate. They beat the Chiefs,

1059
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 4: they go three straight against division rivals, and then the

1060
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: wheels sort of fall off, and with the historic comeback

1061
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: from the Broncos this past week, now the Broncos are

1062
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 4: at the top of the division and that momentum. I

1063
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 4: know Clay Bond doesn't believe in it, but I feel

1064
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:45,919
Speaker 4: like everyone else sort of does.

1065
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 2: He's in everyone's head because anytime any.

1066
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,000
Speaker 3: He really loves them there, he lives there.

1067
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 2: Now good, it's a good place to be.

1068
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,879
Speaker 4: But I totally believe in it. You know, I will

1069
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 4: frequently ask athletes about it too. I'm like, do you

1070
00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 4: believe in momentum? And yeah, they all do. But I

1071
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 4: think the pressure is just mounting now on the Chargers

1072
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 4: to bounce back and to get back on track, and

1073
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,279
Speaker 4: I'm not sure with the offensive line issues that they've

1074
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 4: had and those injuries, and you have obviously Rashaun Slater

1075
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 4: out for the season, Joe Alt, like, what is his

1076
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 4: status for this game?

1077
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,920
Speaker 1: He might play, Okay, he might play. This might be

1078
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,720
Speaker 1: the return. That would be great, that would be absolutely massive.

1079
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 3: I think that would actually that could swing things a bit.

1080
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: I know I was a little surprise their favorite. I

1081
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: think you hit on like the biggest matchup right there

1082
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,280
Speaker 1: is that the pass rutch of Minnesota, which last week

1083
00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: your Eagles handled them.

1084
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: Jalen ERTs was perfect against the Blitz.

1085
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: And when they were in situations where they just let

1086
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: their guys pass pressure, whether it was Van Ginkel or

1087
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 1: Jonathan Gernard Dallas Turner, your guys reminded everyone why you

1088
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:58,759
Speaker 1: got a future Hall of Famer at right tackle and

1089
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: you got an all pro left tackle and they stonewalled them.

1090
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,360
Speaker 1: I don't think they had like forget a pressure. I

1091
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: don't know if they had any wins. And now they

1092
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Speaker 1: get to play one of the worst offensive lines in

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Speaker 1: the league. But if all is back, and we'll see

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Speaker 1: about Trey Pipkins, it's it's crazy. To me, the Chargers

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00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 1: are like hoping Trey Pipkins gets back, but they were

1096
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 1: down to their fifth their sixth tackle at one point

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Speaker 1: last week. And the problem is the interior line of

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00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:24,759
Speaker 1: the line too. There was a play last week in

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00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,680
Speaker 1: that cold scheme where you know they they get nahem

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00:54:29,719 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 1: Hines in motion behind the play. He's kind of like

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00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: a returner running back type. But it was clearly like

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Speaker 1: a gadgety design play of like we need to create

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00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: some offense. They got exactly the matchup they wanted, one

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00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 1: on one in man coverage of him sprinting with a

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00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: head start against a defensive lineman Samson Ebcom on the

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Speaker 1: other team. Like that's a touchdown like on a wheel route,

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Speaker 1: and Herbert is looking there at first and before he

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00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:03,240
Speaker 1: can even really look there immediate win by DeForest Buckner

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Speaker 1: and the Colts and is just in his face and

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Speaker 1: he's running for his life. And that to me, has

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Speaker 1: been the Chargers offense. The best plays they have is

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Speaker 1: just justin Herbert doing stuff because like they can't really

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Speaker 1: run a normal offense right now.

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Speaker 2: That's not gay.

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Speaker 1: I actually think Herbert's been playing great his MVP level

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Speaker 1: that people were.

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Speaker 2: Like Oh, he's been the MVP through three weeks.

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Speaker 1: Like, I think he is still playing at that level,

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Speaker 1: but it is rough in front of him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, imagine if he had a competent offensive line,

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Speaker 4: then he would be in that conversation.

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Speaker 3: He would be maybe leading it. Who knows.

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Speaker 4: Also, Khalil Mack going up against the Vikings offensive line,

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Speaker 4: that's another one to just watch now that he returned

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Speaker 4: to the game last week.

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Speaker 1: He's back. They traded for a da f Aoway. You know,

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00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:50,040
Speaker 1: they got Tuly Plow too. But the struggles I think

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Speaker 1: come from a couple guys that we've been giving a

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00:55:52,120 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 1: lot of credit for on the show. Don Henley, who

1130
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 1: he thought was kind of a breakout player started the season. Well,

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Speaker 1: they've just seem a little lost in coverage, both him

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00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,920
Speaker 1: Derwin James, like the middle of that defense. Teams are

1133
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: taking advantage of their aggressiveness. They're very aggressive. And so

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00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 1: this is a game where KAOC is looking at and

1135
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: it's like, man, I can scheme up some open receivers

1136
00:56:12,360 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: and we know he can't. He did it against the Eagles.

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00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 1: Can Carson Wentz deliver? Can Kosc figure out the right balance?

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Speaker 1: Because here's a stat for you. Last week in the

1139
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: red zone, the Vikings called fifteen passes in six runs.

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00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:29,319
Speaker 1: What fifteen Carson Wentz pass and so many of those

1141
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 1: were like inside the five too. You were watching that

1142
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: game like, oh my god, I mean it's like they're

1143
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: counting on like you can't count on Carson Wentz that much.

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00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:36,399
Speaker 2: It's too much.

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00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 4: I loved it when I was watching it, like, yes,

1146
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,960
Speaker 4: more Carson Wentz passes, let's go. I've seen this before

1147
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 4: and I hated it before, but I love it now.

1148
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:47,839
Speaker 2: Really big game.

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Speaker 1: I think for both of these teams in this season,

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00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,680
Speaker 1: it feels like a stop the bleeding type of game

1151
00:56:52,719 --> 00:56:55,880
Speaker 1: for either to either stay over five hundred if you're

1152
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,800
Speaker 1: the Chargers, to stay you know, same thing with the Vikings.

1153
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 1: They could fall under and be last place in that division.

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00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,040
Speaker 3: And the Vikings. By the way, the window opened on

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00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 3: Aaron Jones so he could potentially play.

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00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 2: It sounds like they're you're right to point that out.

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Speaker 2: Good job, any thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think he is going to play in this game

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00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: based on how Kevin O'Connell talked about it, that like

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00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: he wouldn't need much ramp up time, so it'll be fun.

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Speaker 1: Thursday Night we'll be watching and we'll also be saying

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00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 1: goodbye on the show. But before we do, we just

1163
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 1: got some like fun little news that's like, why not

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00:57:30,320 --> 00:57:30,800
Speaker 1: throw this in?

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson on Twitter on Tuesday responded to a comment

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Speaker 1: that Sean Payton had made at the podium. I believe

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00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: it was on Monday, and this was Sean Payton's comment

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00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: or context. They found a little spark with that quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to John Mara, the owner of the Giants,

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00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 1: not too long ago, and I said, we were hoping

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Speaker 1: that change happened long after our game. Russell Wilson, understandably,

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Speaker 1: I think, taking it as a shot considering their history together,

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00:58:10,560 --> 00:58:16,400
Speaker 1: said classless but not surprised. Didn't realize you're still bounty

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00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: hunting fifteen plus years later through the media sunglass emoji,

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00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 1: crying laughing emoji, Let's ride diagonal, laughing crying emoji.

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Speaker 4: I would have liked no emojis and no hashtag, and

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00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 4: then I would have been like, oh, are we getting

1179
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 4: like a little actual window into Russell Wilson, Like is

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00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,400
Speaker 4: he starting to take the guard.

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Speaker 3: Down a little?

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00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:41,160
Speaker 2: Oh?

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00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 4: I like that's showing like now he's been through so

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00:58:45,120 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 4: much adversity that he's like, screw it. But then the emojis.

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00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 4: He tempered it still, he tried to soften it with

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00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:52,240
Speaker 4: the laughing.

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Speaker 1: I think you're showing your elder millennial.

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Speaker 2: You know, bona fidees Like, I'm with you. I agree.

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Speaker 1: Ever, someone does that when you're saying something real and

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00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:04,360
Speaker 1: then they add it. It just it just undercuts it

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00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. Yeah, Okay, why don't you just stand

1192
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 1: on it? Stand by that, right, But I think it's

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00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: just more comfortable, you know. I think it might be

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00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: a generational thing. Although he is part of your generation.

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Speaker 2: Argent.

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Speaker 1: You you, you are in the same general you in Russ.

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Speaker 1: You and Russ. I'm more of like Cuss Jennett. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm like significantly older than you, Colleen. That's just a fact.

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Speaker 2: Moser to death.

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Speaker 3: I knew it would come off at some point during

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Speaker 3: the show.

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Speaker 2: It's like our thing.

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Speaker 4: Well we all are greg from at least when we

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Speaker 4: started this show today.

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Speaker 1: I love that from Russ, by the way, because Game

1206
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:46,360
Speaker 1: recognizes game. One of my favorite quotes ever that I

1207
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 1: literally think about multiple times a week. It's from from

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00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 1: a novel by Rachel Cuss, and she right the character

1209
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: says like how she she thought how often people betray

1210
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: themselves by what they notice in others?

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Speaker 2: And I think that is so true.

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01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Russell Wilson knows how to play that media game.

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01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 2: You know.

1214
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:12,960
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson in some ways is the player version of

1215
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 1: media manipulation that Sean Payton has been through the years.

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: So he like he sees it.

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01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 4: Wow, this is next level the things that you dislike

1218
01:00:23,240 --> 01:00:26,000
Speaker 4: about yourself like you see in others and attack.

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: It exactly because you know it. Yeah, like when you

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01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: when you it's close to the you know.

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Speaker 3: This is the Ecology podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome.

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01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: It's close to the idea that every accusation is in

1224
01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: admission a little bit because it's something you're expert in.

1225
01:00:45,080 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: You you understand that, so you actually you really can

1226
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: recognize those qualities and others, even if it's the worst

1227
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 1: sometimes quality in yourself, those are the ones you know

1228
01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:54,840
Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 3: Take that as a lesson everyone.

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Speaker 1: We did it so great to have Colleen back. Great

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01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 1: to be here on see you next Tuesday. We will

1232
01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: see you on Wednesday. Steve bis in the house, Oh,

1233
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 1: Patrick Claybond in the house. Light week only what twelve

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01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: games because there's six byes this week.

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Speaker 3: That's terrible for fantasy.

1236
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:24,040
Speaker 2: Very excited for the Week eight. Reve you weird Week

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Speaker 2: eight eight, We'll see you. Then we're all dying.