Speaker 1: Get to start today off with a good guest someone
Speaker 1: I've been trying to track down. Thank you Danielle, because
Speaker 1: that yell is the homie. She's been chasing Nick with
Speaker 1: me for a couple of years. Man, yeah, but we
Speaker 1: got him here. Man, the man of many hats. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show, Nick Canneth. Man, appreciate you.
Speaker 2: Man. It's a pleasure, Nick, literally my first time. That's
Speaker 2: our first time meeting. I ain't met you before broke when.
Speaker 3: Shoot, it's funny that you say that we made in Chicago.
Speaker 3: Uh at the the hundred of.
Speaker 2: What was that that?
Speaker 3: I mean at the ministers? Uh?
Speaker 4: We at the Criterion? Sure did you never forgot that?
Speaker 4: I forgot that. I was so in awe. But about
Speaker 4: the Minister I forgot, you know you did. I went
Speaker 4: our hearings laving on the way not as hard Criterion.
Speaker 1: Okay, So, Nick, I mean rapper, actor, host, comedian five,
Speaker 1: tell me what a day in the life of you was?
Speaker 3: Like, Man, I mean, like you said, you the first
Speaker 3: and foremost is fatherhood. I'm wake up, well, crazy thing,
Speaker 3: I actually wake up. I'm at the office at like
Speaker 3: two am, Like I'm on that Arcadian clock stuff. So
Speaker 3: I get up before my day start before everybody.
Speaker 2: What time you go to bed at?
Speaker 3: Uh, probably when the sun go down? Oh really, okay,
Speaker 3: just for a few hours, because then I'm up and
Speaker 3: then you know, meditating, working out, doing everything. Usually my
Speaker 3: my shows start around like six am. But then, like
Speaker 3: everybody else day, once I knock all that stuff out,
Speaker 3: then I take the kids to school. That probably like
Speaker 3: getting them together at like seven seven thirty is drop
Speaker 3: everybody off by nine and I'm back to the office
Speaker 3: and you know, we're doing this type stuff for all
Speaker 3: day long based off of what show was in production
Speaker 3: or you know, what artists is in town. And then
Speaker 3: we moved like that.
Speaker 1: We had a Simba on the show on Wednesday, Young
Speaker 1: Talented Artists. He told us he's he's headed on tour
Speaker 1: with you, and I kind of look at you as
Speaker 1: like the our generation of kind of keenan.
Speaker 2: Ivy wayns like you take it.
Speaker 1: You have a knack for finding young black talent and
Speaker 1: giving them a platform to go on and succeed.
Speaker 2: Talk to me where that kind of mentality came from.
Speaker 3: Man, too much is giving? Much is required? Were blessed
Speaker 3: so we could be a blessing. A lot of people
Speaker 3: helped me out on the way up, and you know
Speaker 3: it's now to me. I feel like I'm at that
Speaker 3: point in my life where I just want to build
Speaker 3: platforms to see other people succeed, like just help others.
Speaker 3: Like a lot of people talk about what.
Speaker 2: We need to do for each other, but you know
Speaker 2: who's actually doing it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just like it's out here. Just if
Speaker 3: I can get it, I know the next kid could
Speaker 3: get it because they know all that I know it,
Speaker 3: and now I passed it to them and now they
Speaker 3: got some stuff that they can offer up. So that's
Speaker 3: really what it's all about.
Speaker 1: I mean, I look back and you know obviously what
Speaker 1: you start, and we'll get into all that. But I
Speaker 1: look like five ten years from now, and we'll see
Speaker 1: stars such as d C and some other people are
Speaker 1: like where did he get a start at?
Speaker 2: And a lot of those roads are going to lead
Speaker 2: back to you.
Speaker 1: And I just want to give you your flowers for that,
Speaker 1: because I think that's really dope man. The opportunity you
Speaker 1: provide for people who, like you said, may not have
Speaker 1: it or may not have just the means of it,
Speaker 1: and you provide that and give a lot of people
Speaker 1: on the outlet to you know, get their shit together.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 3: I mean that's really what generational wealth is, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. And even gott necessarily be something connected
Speaker 3: directly to your lineage of your DNA. But when you
Speaker 3: can build platforms that people could provide it for their
Speaker 3: families and then therefore the offshoot to that, I mean,
Speaker 3: that's real community right now.
Speaker 4: That's a hell of a comparison. You just man, that
Speaker 4: was great though. I appreciate that, right.
Speaker 1: I mean I've always looked at him that way, like
Speaker 1: I just love he gives me opportunities many lucky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean on steroids though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's heavy San Diego just where you grew up
Speaker 4: born and raised in San Diego to it's a room
Speaker 4: that your pops was og.
Speaker 2: Southwest southeast side talking about you up bringing.
Speaker 3: Man, Yeah, I mean it's one of them things where
Speaker 3: every hood around America is the same, you know what
Speaker 3: I mean. I actually got the opportunity to be raised
Speaker 3: in southern California and southeast San Diego, also in North Carolina.
Speaker 3: Moved around, and you know, I've been in a game
Speaker 3: for a minute. So I grew up in Atlanta, New York,
Speaker 3: you know, like all be all throughout my teenage years,
Speaker 3: I was kind of just moving autonomously like that, just
Speaker 3: as a youngster. So but now Southeast is definitely what
Speaker 3: raised me and birthed me. And it was It's interesting
Speaker 3: because when you hear about San Diego, you think many
Speaker 3: coopers and surfboards for people ain't.
Speaker 1: Never really been down Wherejlana came from. So yeah, coopers
Speaker 1: and surfboards.
Speaker 3: But it's quite different. It's right, it's right there next
Speaker 3: to the border, so you can imagine how much work
Speaker 3: going back and forth and people really getting to it.
Speaker 3: So but it was all love. It was a community
Speaker 3: that's disenfranchised, but you know, it kind of gave me
Speaker 3: the upbringing of raised in the church, you know, projects
Speaker 3: all of that. You know, so we didn't know we
Speaker 3: didn't have because it was it was still community, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. Yeah, love, Yeah, yeah, So you know,
Speaker 3: my parents were teenagers. They had me while they was
Speaker 3: in high school. My pops got his life together after
Speaker 3: he got locked up and moved to North Carolina. That's
Speaker 3: how we got out there. And then you know, my
Speaker 3: grandmother was the matriarch of the family and was really
Speaker 3: raising us all. You know, she got she was a grandmother,
Speaker 3: you know, before she was forty type situations, so it
Speaker 3: is that's but it had this unorthodox sense of family
Speaker 3: that always felt like there was love no matter where,
Speaker 3: no matter what was going on.
Speaker 4: What you was interested in growing up was a sport.
Speaker 4: I mean, like yeah, music.
Speaker 3: With church man, you know, anything that that was that
Speaker 3: was kind of like my my entry point into like
Speaker 3: audiences and even in it because it was like you
Speaker 3: see that congregation and you you know, we come from
Speaker 3: a line of ministers. My father's in the mint. You know,
Speaker 3: he eventually got into the ministry and stuff. So I
Speaker 3: would just peep, you know, controlling a crowd even I
Speaker 3: was like four years old, wanting to you know, tell
Speaker 3: everybody to stand when it was time for offering and
Speaker 3: all of that type of stuff. And then really just
Speaker 3: seeing all of the instruments around too. My mother's father
Speaker 3: was actually a jazz musician and the minister of music.
Speaker 3: So and he passed when when I was eight and
Speaker 3: left me all of these instruments. Oh so yeah, so
Speaker 3: I got an opportunity to start getting down at like
Speaker 3: eight years old, and then from there it was just
Speaker 3: I was in love with music. DJ and by the
Speaker 3: time I got into high school, throwing parties, making mix tapes,
Speaker 3: that type of stuff. So it was just the music
Speaker 3: was in me from the gate.
Speaker 4: So you're saying, we all know you started early, and
Speaker 4: you like experienced a lot of things. What's stuck, Like
Speaker 4: what you what's stuck? When you knew like I made
Speaker 4: it like this is gonna get me there, like he
Speaker 4: was doing everything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I ain't never really think about it like that
Speaker 3: because it was always like this is just it's in me.
Speaker 3: It was a passion just as an artist, so I
Speaker 3: never even thought of it as like a career, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, or even like, but I knew
Speaker 3: I had a hustle about me, so like, you know,
Speaker 3: we did whatever we had to do to make some money.
Speaker 3: You know, my mom's was married to one of the
Speaker 3: biggest d boys in the city, so I kind of
Speaker 3: watched how he moved and that was like, oh, we're good.
Speaker 3: Like it was. So I was never thinking about making
Speaker 3: it out the hook because the hook was feeding us,
Speaker 3: So I didn't have that mentality of wanting to get out,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. So even as we got older,
Speaker 3: and it was just like I just wanted to put
Speaker 3: on for so it was when it started to be
Speaker 3: you know, when everybody starts saying I was exceptional in
Speaker 3: certain spaces and winning talent shows, and like I would
Speaker 3: enter a talent show and I would come in first
Speaker 3: and second, like as a stand up and as an artist.
Speaker 3: So I would just it was unique and I and
Speaker 3: I still I mean like I was just out there hustling.
Speaker 3: I didn't never think of it as a career. I
Speaker 3: was just having fun. So even in high school, like
Speaker 3: I'd be you know, Jamie Fox's comedy Festival in Atlanta
Speaker 3: and like had to could be at school at Monday morning.
Speaker 3: People wouldn't even believe me. I was like, So it
Speaker 3: was just it was just part of my upbringing. So
Speaker 3: I never had that mentality like oh I made it.
Speaker 3: I was just like, yo, I'm having a great time.
Speaker 3: Like I'm just having fun. So I never want I
Speaker 3: never had that destination of like, yo, let's let's get out,
Speaker 3: or let's make it, or now I made enough money
Speaker 3: to work. It was never like that for me.
Speaker 2: That's deep. That's deep.
Speaker 3: I still be on the block. I mean I still
Speaker 3: go like because it's still the family is still you know,
Speaker 3: I try to get down there to San Diego as
Speaker 3: much as possible, and it's everybody the same. We still
Speaker 3: moved the same way.
Speaker 2: How did a lot of people don't know you did
Speaker 2: stand up? Yeah? How did? Like what did how did
Speaker 2: that start? Like you're doing stand up?
Speaker 3: Opening up for the preacher? Man, my pops you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, like telling Jesus jokes and the check
Speaker 3: like real talk like and because I was young, my
Speaker 3: pops always see me doing stuff with the music and
Speaker 3: stuff and be like, man, every kid in the projects
Speaker 3: want to be a rapper, Like you funny, you can,
Speaker 3: you can control the crowd. You could talk about people
Speaker 3: and he's like, do that, that's think outside the box.
Speaker 3: Be different. And then he would be the type of
Speaker 3: dude that like would put me on the spot. He
Speaker 3: had a little teller at the time. He had a
Speaker 3: televangelist show, Uh, you know, trying to you know, blessed
Speaker 3: oil and all that stuff. Uh and I would you
Speaker 3: know it was on cable access. So to be on
Speaker 3: cable access you had to go to have a show.
Speaker 3: You had to go through the workshops and do and
Speaker 3: learn and learn how to work all this stuff. So
Speaker 3: he put me through the workshops to be his crew.
Speaker 3: So I was running the camera, setting up the lights,
Speaker 3: doing the audio set design, and like twelve, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, and so and his reward to me
Speaker 3: with that would be like, all right, well, now that
Speaker 3: you went through all of that and worked on my show,
Speaker 3: you can you know, have a few hours in the
Speaker 3: television studio and I would just be telling jokes, making
Speaker 3: music and shit would actually come on TV on you know,
Speaker 3: channel three hundred some while shit like that. But it
Speaker 3: was like through that, I was like, oh wow, I'm
Speaker 3: junior high school producing television telling jokes. And then from
Speaker 3: there that's when you know, it's talent shows and all
Speaker 3: stuff I was saying, where people just started to take notice.
Speaker 1: You spoke on it earlier, your grandfather passing at the
Speaker 1: age of eight, but you know, kind of your inspiration
Speaker 1: behind the music. Talk to us about his impact he
Speaker 1: left on you.
Speaker 3: I mean, realistically, it was more just about the you know,
Speaker 3: being eight, you don't really, yeah, but the fact that
Speaker 3: what he left me, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 3: that was always my connection to him, to be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I can get to know him better through all of
Speaker 3: this equipment. Really, you know, to have that level of
Speaker 3: of equipment for an eight year old in the hood.
Speaker 3: You know, I had everything. I had guitars, trumpets, synthesizers, drums,
Speaker 3: like all stuffed into like a closet and like because
Speaker 3: we didn't even have you know, it was so we
Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of space. Yeah, but it was
Speaker 3: just so much so that I would be even for years,
Speaker 3: I would go in there and like, dang, I wonder
Speaker 3: how we play this or how to figure this out?
Speaker 3: So that in itself, man, just in teaching myself how
Speaker 3: to play and then be able to go to church
Speaker 3: or whatever event and get down with other musicians and stuff.
Speaker 3: I would have never had that if you would have
Speaker 3: never left me.
Speaker 1: You're breaking the music officially, Drive Records two thousand and one.
Speaker 1: Was that experience like for you?
Speaker 3: Uh man, y'all going back, I gotta update my resume.
Speaker 3: I don't even remember, to be honest, because that was
Speaker 3: so much going on in my life at the time.
Speaker 3: And I have, like I said, I have been hustling,
Speaker 3: and you know I was. I was around in the nineties,
Speaker 3: so I was, you know, trying to figure out how
Speaker 3: to you know, get signed the death row bad Boy
Speaker 3: all of that, like with like I remember being, you know,
Speaker 3: on Sunset Boulevard the night of the Soul Train Awards,
Speaker 3: you know, like and then like literally when it was
Speaker 3: like how it looked in the movies, where like Snooping
Speaker 3: then was on one side of the street Biggie and
Speaker 3: then was on another Leo was at the House of
Speaker 3: Blues like so growing, I felt like I was already
Speaker 3: in the mix right for since like the mid nineties,
Speaker 3: and I was just that kid that you would always
Speaker 3: seem like, what is this kid doing here, like almost
Speaker 3: like the Waterboy type energy, but instead of water I
Speaker 3: was passing out CDs and stuff like that. So by
Speaker 3: the time the deal came around, I had already been
Speaker 3: signed to Will Smith, I have been you know, did
Speaker 3: the joint with Jamie Fox. I had already been on
Speaker 3: Nickelodeon and all of that stuff. So I actually started
Speaker 3: Nickelodeon and Jive Record Label and that's what two thousand.
Speaker 3: So it was like it was interesting because like Nickelodeon
Speaker 3: was this billion dollar company and they was doing all that,
Speaker 3: but they didn't have a record label. I was like, yo,
Speaker 3: let's just call it Nick Records. And then that's how
Speaker 3: and I, you know, kind of had the distribution through Jive,
Speaker 3: and so even then I was more of an executive.
Speaker 3: I wasn't even trying to be an artist. So it
Speaker 3: was just like I wanted to produce all of the
Speaker 3: acts on Nickelodeon and put them out because I was
Speaker 3: also during the time where Disney was booming with Britney
Speaker 3: Spears Christina in Sync, so I was like, Yo, we
Speaker 3: should do that over here and then kind of give
Speaker 3: it more of an urban spin. So that's how that
Speaker 3: came about.
Speaker 1: Thinking early, right, who were I mean, obviously the grind
Speaker 1: was was was in your DNA, But who are some
Speaker 1: of the people you looked up to in the space.
Speaker 3: H Man, just Puff, Jermaine dupri Like, those are the
Speaker 3: dudes that I wanted to emulate coming up, Like I
Speaker 3: just you know, just being behind the scenes. You know,
Speaker 3: I was signing up all the little cute girls in
Speaker 3: my high school. Tell them I'll give them a record deal.
Speaker 3: I don't know what they That was my game.
Speaker 2: You know. That's a mean hustle too.
Speaker 1: You tell a girl you can put it on a
Speaker 1: record or a movie.
Speaker 3: So that's like but even more that's like I didn't
Speaker 3: ever want to be the dude in the front, Like
Speaker 3: even I was, you know, trying to out producing beats
Speaker 3: for the homies. I'll be let me be the DJ,
Speaker 3: Let me be the dude that could press up the
Speaker 3: mixtapes and sell them out the trunk of my mom car.
Speaker 3: Like that movement felt like what I aspired to be.
Speaker 3: But once I don't know, man, like it was just
Speaker 3: one of those things I looked up to, people like
Speaker 3: Quincy Jones, you know what I mean. I would do
Speaker 3: my research on the OG and the greats. So yeah,
Speaker 3: like even Russell Simmons and people like who were creators
Speaker 3: a culture, who had a true impact on our lifestyle
Speaker 3: and what we did. Like, so those are the people
Speaker 3: that and I mean even still to this day, when
Speaker 3: we when we think about the individuals who shaped our culture,
Speaker 3: it's them, whether they were producing the music, producing.
Speaker 2: The film, no matter what they were doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and even I mean even and as I got
Speaker 3: even older and I started to tap in with cats
Speaker 3: like Harry Belafonte and Dick Gregory and all like. Even
Speaker 3: as much of they were showmen, they were producers, they
Speaker 3: were entrepreneurs. Their business acumen was next level, especially when
Speaker 3: you think about all the adversity that they were up
Speaker 3: against in those times. They had to be able to
Speaker 3: be one person for you on camera, but was really
Speaker 3: running a full operation and putting on not just for
Speaker 3: the business, but even for the community in the activism
Speaker 3: space too.
Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like you were someone that grew
Speaker 1: up knowing how to be in front and behind the camera.
Speaker 1: So it was only right when you started your own label.
Speaker 1: Incredible Entertainment talked to us about how that started.
Speaker 3: It was, Man, it's one of them scenarios where I've
Speaker 3: had several companies, Like I said, since high school, I
Speaker 3: was always trying to do something and here and there,
Speaker 3: and then you can you can have multiple labels and
Speaker 3: multiple production companies. But at one point it was like
Speaker 3: probably mid two thousands, they're probably like, right, I think
Speaker 3: right when I got married, I was like, man, I
Speaker 3: want to just consolidate every business that I have and
Speaker 3: bring it into one. So, because you know, I had
Speaker 3: television production, I had mister Renaissance, I had cannot ball
Speaker 3: and attain all of this stuff. And it was just
Speaker 3: even as you know, you get to your business manager
Speaker 3: and you got to sign all of this, and I
Speaker 3: was like, man, how do we make this just one
Speaker 3: bit conglomerate, and my goal was like, yo, I just
Speaker 3: want one incredible multi media, just one stop shop. And
Speaker 3: probably that's how it all came together. So probably like
Speaker 3: around two thousand and nine twenty ten, I just consolidate everything.
Speaker 3: And then interestingly enough, that's also twenty ten is when
Speaker 3: I got business with Monster and we created the incredible headphones,
Speaker 3: and you know that when we went on to sell
Speaker 3: like two hundred million dollars and head in a few years,
Speaker 3: and you know, it was kind of it was on
Speaker 3: the same pace. I mean, Monster was the same company
Speaker 3: that created Beats by Dre, so I was the more affordable.
Speaker 3: We were in Walmart where they was at.
Speaker 2: You know, thet people than there are albumagty.
Speaker 3: So I learned how to build the brand off the
Speaker 3: hills of that. So it became more than just a company,
Speaker 3: became a brand. That's how we move it.
Speaker 2: I love it. Ninety eight You land the role and
Speaker 2: all that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the talk about the process of auditioning and getting
Speaker 4: that role, because you know I'm starting acting too, so.
Speaker 3: Salute on that. Appreciate it. It's funny I didn't. I
Speaker 3: never auditioned. It was one of them scenarios. Just what
Speaker 3: we've been saying. I was behind the scenes. I started
Speaker 3: at my manager and the producers from Nickelodeon saw me
Speaker 3: doing stand up at the at the improv roles when
Speaker 3: I was like fifteen, and I was.
Speaker 2: The kid in it.
Speaker 3: You know, I was going up as Dave Chappelle and
Speaker 3: you know Chris Tuck, everybody go. Every month, Monday used
Speaker 3: to be lit. It was no better Mondays, and it
Speaker 3: was like that was the black Night. And I was
Speaker 3: a fifteen year old kid and they're doing stand up.
Speaker 3: So they was like, yo, this kid got a real voice.
Speaker 3: So took a couple of meetings and they gave me
Speaker 3: an opportunity to you know, do the warm up, do
Speaker 3: pretty much my set, you know, before the actual actors
Speaker 3: and everybody came out, and I would have to be
Speaker 3: put on for like three hours, and it'd be so
Speaker 3: much people would be mad when they'd have to go
Speaker 3: back to shooting. Like the warm up kid is more
Speaker 3: entertaining what's going on on the show. So from there
Speaker 3: I was the warm up and then they started asking me,
Speaker 3: you know, for help with the jokes and concepts because
Speaker 3: I'm still a high school student. So they was like, well,
Speaker 3: he knows his voice better than and a lot of
Speaker 3: these adult writers. So they allowed me. They gave me
Speaker 3: an opportunity to have a staff writer's position that like
Speaker 3: as a team. I was the youngest staff writer in
Speaker 3: television history. And then from there I was writing for
Speaker 3: All That and Kenan and Kel and a bunch of
Speaker 3: different shows, and like I said, I was started writing
Speaker 3: my own show. So it was almost by default that
Speaker 3: I was on the show because I was behind the
Speaker 3: scenes as the warm up in the writer. And you know,
Speaker 3: even by then, I kind of just was like, yo,
Speaker 3: let me just have fun. I wasn't trying to trying
Speaker 3: to be the star to show and I was just there.
Speaker 3: And I think that's even when you think like how
Speaker 3: SNL and a lot of that work, like they just
Speaker 3: find their lane, and I was just really as a
Speaker 3: kid trying to find my lane amongst you know, ten
Speaker 3: other talented young people.
Speaker 1: It seemed like all this shit was just fun. But
Speaker 1: I'm saying that the sounds fun. He was having fun, yeah,
Speaker 1: and then the money started coming with the fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So don't really feel I mean,
Speaker 1: although it's hours in time, it doesn't really feel like
Speaker 1: work because you love to do it anyway.
Speaker 3: That's exactly what. That's how I lived my life even
Speaker 3: still to this day. It's like, if I ain't having fun,
Speaker 3: I ain't doing it.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a.
Speaker 3: Blessing to have that level of freedom to where you
Speaker 3: could wake up and say, I'm gonna do what I
Speaker 3: want to do, and if I'm not enjoying myself, I
Speaker 3: want to have a delightful disposition so I could fuck
Speaker 3: with everybody and be cool and like, nobody liked to
Speaker 3: show up to somewhere. They feel like they forced to
Speaker 3: be there. So it's like and I feel I think,
Speaker 3: you know, one of the quotes say is like money
Speaker 3: don't make you happy. Happy makes you money.
Speaker 2: So that's my first time hearing that. That's a good one.
Speaker 2: I like it. That my personal How did you feel
Speaker 2: when you first landed your first show? To Nick Cannon
Speaker 2: Show Again?
Speaker 3: I created it, so it was you know, the eighteen
Speaker 3: nineteen years old. It was an opportunity. It's funny though too,
Speaker 3: because I had I had just had a show. I
Speaker 3: was signing Will Smith before that through Warner Brothers and
Speaker 3: they I had a six episode commitment for a show
Speaker 3: that I wrote called The Loose Cannon. I remember I
Speaker 3: pitched it to Will and I was like, Yo, it's
Speaker 3: like the fresh Prince of bell Air but me and
Speaker 3: the military school. And he was like, I'm rocking with it.
Speaker 3: And then we put it all together. I'm watching how
Speaker 3: Yeah Quincy Jones come to the pilot and all that stuff.
Speaker 3: Six episode commitment. I'm fresh out of high school. I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm on, you know what I mean, first thing I do.
Speaker 3: I get a big check, I buy a range Rover,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Will was like, man, don't
Speaker 3: do that. Like He's like, I made that same mistake
Speaker 3: when I was. I was like, man, whatever, I just
Speaker 3: got six episode commitment was coming on right after the
Speaker 3: Jamie Foxx Show on the WB that was my scheduled slot. Like,
Speaker 3: and so I'm lit. All of a sudden, they get
Speaker 3: new people at Warner Brothers. Things shift, they go in
Speaker 3: a whole different direction for that whole block, and my
Speaker 3: show don't get picked up. So we got we just got.
Speaker 2: One on off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was heart broke. Like that was probably in
Speaker 3: the industry one of my first big like heartbreaks, because
Speaker 3: I'm on, I just bought a range row bro You
Speaker 3: trying to get my mama, a house, all of that stuff.
Speaker 3: But so what that did that instantly humbled me at
Speaker 3: at an early age. So when I was like, bump it,
Speaker 3: I'm not I'm not gonna rely on nobody else. I'm
Speaker 3: gonna just continue to create my own. And that's when
Speaker 3: I created the Nick Cannon Show and took it over,
Speaker 3: you know, across the street to Nickelodeon. So and even
Speaker 3: though I knew that grind, that like that grind was
Speaker 3: definitely harder than like coming on after Jamie Fix, Like
Speaker 3: I thought I was gonna be in that camp, like
Speaker 3: when it was Jamie Fox and Wayne's brother Steve Harvey show,
Speaker 3: like it was during that time, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'm next up, And I was like, dang, Will was right.
Speaker 3: I had to had to get rid of.
Speaker 2: The range rock.
Speaker 3: It took me more have moved back here with Mom's
Speaker 3: for a little bit, like just because I ran through
Speaker 3: it and I thought it.
Speaker 2: Was I thought it was about to keep copping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I was like tailing into the you know,
Speaker 3: end of the nineties. So I was like by the time,
Speaker 3: I was like, I ain't gonna let that happen to me.
Speaker 3: Are you forty two?
Speaker 4: You are not the same age? Old forty two? Really
Speaker 4: three years old as old ass nigga?
Speaker 2: What you mean? Yeah, I did not know I was
Speaker 2: three years old. You damn old last nigga he said
Speaker 2: you were, you were not his. I thought he was
Speaker 2: the same age all this time, no wonder, Yeah, okay, now, yeah,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that. I thought you was the old
Speaker 2: motherfucker too. Bro. You see all them grades, you don't
Speaker 2: see no grades over here?
Speaker 4: I see something, not as many, not as many ship
Speaker 4: salt pepper, Yeah, mostly salt.
Speaker 1: But two thousand and five whilding out, I mean a
Speaker 1: Coult classic.
Speaker 2: I got a check.
Speaker 4: He needs to be on the Funniest mother came Bro,
Speaker 4: I didn't see that episode.
Speaker 2: I didn't talking that episode.
Speaker 3: You need to be there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna out wrap some motherfuckers when
Speaker 4: I get on you.
Speaker 2: This is my fucker's a comedian, bro.
Speaker 1: Man, I know I didn't really stretch out on that show.
Speaker 1: I was because I was such a fan.
Speaker 2: I would have heard about it.
Speaker 1: I was just coming to the show to chill. And
Speaker 1: then and then someone says, like Nick wants you on
Speaker 1: the Show's like, no, I care.
Speaker 2: I was blowed to I'm like, no, I'm just coming.
Speaker 2: It was during fashion week.
Speaker 1: I was like, now, I'm just coming to watch it,
Speaker 1: and I went and talked to just come on the show.
Speaker 1: Nick Tha was like, all right, fuck man, I.
Speaker 4: Needed to play the fifth and everything, and I need
Speaker 4: to pass some of them insults to other people because I'm.
Speaker 2: I take them every day on the show. You got
Speaker 2: to spread them ships around.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 1: But uh, wilding out the thought process and that how
Speaker 1: that became and it's I mean, it's still doing what
Speaker 1: it does.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we about shoot were twenty season all damn.
Speaker 2: Talking about five seasons now.
Speaker 3: We started back then, and it was really the way
Speaker 3: it happened, like nobody saw the vision. So what I
Speaker 3: did really was at that time when I was bubbling
Speaker 3: kind of doing my thing, and I'd be hanging at
Speaker 3: the comedy club or you know, off of Peko, and
Speaker 3: it'd be all of these other cats. They're like looking
Speaker 3: at me and you put us on do something, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And I'm like I and I
Speaker 3: was at the time. It was catching Cat Williams, Evan
Speaker 3: hard dray Davis, like we was all we all kind
Speaker 3: of came up and at the same same time. So
Speaker 3: we'd just be backstage literally freestyling, talking shit, talking about
Speaker 3: each other, mama, like really just putting that energy on.
Speaker 3: I was like, Yo, this is the show right career.
Speaker 3: I was like, So I rented out the comedy club,
Speaker 3: got some cameras, we promoted it, had everybody come out.
Speaker 3: It was like me, Chris Spencer, you know, a couple
Speaker 3: other people. That was kind of structured the uh you
Speaker 3: know what we was gonna do and turn us just
Speaker 3: bullshitting into to an actual show. And then you know,
Speaker 3: me and my dude now Evans kind of put the
Speaker 3: logo together and the like. I remember creating the logo
Speaker 3: and I was like, this is gonna be iconic, and
Speaker 3: then you know, took it to MTV and they're like, oh,
Speaker 3: we get what you're talking about now. I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, well I'm gonna own my brand because y'all
Speaker 3: could have paid for it, but I paid for it.
Speaker 3: So from there, you know, we rested here history. We
Speaker 3: almost five hundred episodes later.
Speaker 1: When it first started, uh, you were going out and
Speaker 1: finding talent. The word was out there were coming to you.
Speaker 1: How did you start getting talent?
Speaker 3: It was the homies, Like that's what I'm saying like
Speaker 3: back then, like if you even watch like the first
Speaker 3: season wild'n Out, like it was a broke Kevin Hart,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: I think at the time we had in the first
Speaker 3: like the poloty we had loan on like we had.
Speaker 3: It was just like people was like, yo, gum fuck.
Speaker 3: And then that was the thing too because at that
Speaker 3: time MTV had just had like punk, so like Ashton
Speaker 3: Kutcher was their star. So it's like, you know, and
Speaker 3: we was like the step child to punk. So everybody
Speaker 3: was going on punk, like justin Timberlake and Beyonce, and
Speaker 3: we was like, yo, let's just put a little Wayne
Speaker 3: on all.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: Like it was, it was hip hop and for when
Speaker 3: MTV wasn't fucking with it really realistically, we was building
Speaker 3: the culture. So people was like, nah, I rock with
Speaker 3: what y'all got going over there. And it was just
Speaker 3: every season and just started getting bigger, bigger and bigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Beause this question, this next question, I don't mean I
Speaker 4: want who has the job like that job?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean similar to what Doctor busted with
Speaker 1: the Lakers, creating the Laker Girls.
Speaker 2: You have created Wilding Out Girls and mister everybody relaxed.
Speaker 1: It was like question, I had a foundation event maybe
Speaker 1: four years ago with Snoop and I hit Nick and
Speaker 1: his team up, like, Nick, we need some women for
Speaker 1: this poor party.
Speaker 2: Nick.
Speaker 1: And when I tell you they came through and flying colors, bro, I.
Speaker 3: Could take no credit.
Speaker 2: Who has the job to hire the wilding Out girls?
Speaker 2: How can I apply? You want to be a wilding
Speaker 2: Out girl? No, not at all. I want to be
Speaker 2: around them now.
Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, you said you gave her a shout
Speaker 3: out at the beginning between the casting and uh at
Speaker 3: Paramount and you know v H one and m TV.
Speaker 3: But Danielle has been She's super dope, you know, seeing
Speaker 3: she cast and Rose and they've been doing their thing
Speaker 3: since season one, and she's really she is a great person.
Speaker 3: She's a great relationship. She brings a lot of the
Speaker 3: talent you know on the show. And then at the
Speaker 3: same time she has her own casting company and everything
Speaker 3: I do, she casts and she It's a delicate thing,
Speaker 3: especially when you believe, like even with like the me
Speaker 3: Too era and all of that stuff, we always want
Speaker 3: to make sure that we're super respectful when we create
Speaker 3: an environment for the women to be comfortable. But even
Speaker 3: in that scenario, you can't. I mean, we don't have
Speaker 3: every rapper on the show. Every but and it's because
Speaker 3: of the people. Everybody's keep good people with good energy energy.
Speaker 3: And that's the thing when you when everybody feels like
Speaker 3: they treated well, and that's that's the vibe show. And
Speaker 3: I test that all to her. She's just somebody that
Speaker 3: knows how to bring good people together and make sure
Speaker 3: everybody head on straight and in on that bullshit.
Speaker 1: Talk us about a whiling out shoot that you gotta
Speaker 1: shoot multiple shows one.
Speaker 3: Day, three episodes in a day, okay, yeah, So and
Speaker 3: you know, probably because it's like it's like a sport.
Speaker 3: So we we do like, you know, the the rehearsal
Speaker 3: or we call it the workout or the workshop, like
Speaker 3: a week or two before, just putting it on his feet,
Speaker 3: getting your improv muscles together. So because none of it
Speaker 3: is written, we're just going off the top. But you
Speaker 3: got to know how to play the game. You gotta
Speaker 3: keep the speed, keep the rhythm, keep the flow going.
Speaker 3: And so then by the time we get to shooting
Speaker 3: the show and it's whatever happens, I mean, you get
Speaker 3: to you get to see it. You know, it's you
Speaker 3: get to see it happening in real time. And somebody
Speaker 3: say something that ain't funny. We're gonna make funny for
Speaker 3: not being fun Somebody stumbled, We're gonna laugh, you know
Speaker 3: if something. But and you just see everybody's skill set
Speaker 3: and talent and it just go. You know, what you
Speaker 3: see on TV is how long it really took us
Speaker 3: to shoot it. I mean, it'd be a little stop
Speaker 3: down here and there. But our goal is to make
Speaker 3: you feel like it's live so we can knock three
Speaker 3: out and be done.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously you've had a lot of success in
Speaker 1: the entertainment space, but did Wilding Out surprise you on
Speaker 1: just its longevity and the ability to be a platform
Speaker 1: for so many different people to branch off and do
Speaker 1: their thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, it did it. I didn't see it as
Speaker 3: where it is now, you know what I mean. I
Speaker 3: knew it was gonna be successful. I knew it was
Speaker 3: gonna be special. I knew the logo was gonna be
Speaker 3: iconic and all of that. But I didn't see, like, man,
Speaker 3: we just sold out Madison Square Garden, we sold out
Speaker 3: the Staples Center, A few times. You know, we on
Speaker 3: tour every summer and people come out for it. We
Speaker 3: got board games, we got restaurants, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I opened up one in Miami, San Diego, we opened
Speaker 3: in one in La. Now it's just like I didn't
Speaker 3: know that that ip was going, you know, diversify in
Speaker 3: so many different places. So and the fact that it
Speaker 3: could continue to go on and on and even in
Speaker 3: a digital space. Now it's really strong and giving others opportunities.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's what I always set out to do
Speaker 3: initially was to give my friends jobs. And now you know,
Speaker 3: I'm funny, I'm hiring some of their kids and putting
Speaker 3: them on the show at this point. So to have
Speaker 3: it across multiple generations and still going and people a
Speaker 3: lot of people feel like it's still new, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, it's crazy to see, like, you know,
Speaker 3: I got eleven year old son and him and his
Speaker 3: friends talking about.
Speaker 1: My twins walked the fourteen. It's just like that next level.
Speaker 1: It's just like a generation.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So and that's that's the vibe to where it's like, Yo,
Speaker 3: I'm now like all right, well how long can this
Speaker 3: joint rock for? Like I remember it like, yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: gonna do one hundred episodes and I'm done. And I
Speaker 3: was like, I'm gonna go ahead and try to get
Speaker 3: to ten seasons. Let's go twelve, you know, Like now
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, we we surpassed twenty.
Speaker 2: And syndicated right once you get to that level.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like so that show gonna be on forever.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 1: I mean obviously you know, five hundred plus shows, memorable shows,
Speaker 1: memorable people on it. Like anything come to mind when
Speaker 1: I asked that favorite show maybe, I mean, like.
Speaker 3: I said, your episode was fire. I don't know what
Speaker 3: you talk about. It's one of the classics when you
Speaker 3: go the line and you see the reals, like classic moment.
Speaker 3: You got some classic because you was up there talking
Speaker 3: that ship. We expect you to say certain things. But Snoop,
Speaker 3: you know, Snoop in there a few times, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? Probably it's Snoop and he one of
Speaker 3: the people that he don't care. He'll get up there
Speaker 3: and joke with you. But it also freestyle, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so Snoop is probably the most he high.
Speaker 2: Until you say some shit, get on your.
Speaker 3: Fast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got an opportunity to work with Jordan to
Speaker 1: create a sneaker.
Speaker 2: How did that partnership come together?
Speaker 3: Man, that's interesting because it's funny. The joint that I've
Speaker 3: worked on was Jordan's seven, and it was like all
Speaker 3: of the years I think we were doing it was
Speaker 3: almost like a commemorative all the years of wild'ing out.
Speaker 3: So I had like the red had the gold, the platinum,
Speaker 3: like it was dope, and I had a few pair
Speaker 3: and they was like gonna make mad limited joints for
Speaker 3: the cast members and he was gonna given it to
Speaker 3: the guests that season, and like, I don't know what happened,
Speaker 3: Like this was like pre pandemic. And then I started
Speaker 3: seeing online where somebody had designed some furs and it
Speaker 3: was calling them the wilding Out for I was like
Speaker 3: the make the ones design, so like, you know that
Speaker 3: sneaker culture, so it's real, like you got to really
Speaker 3: be about it. So I'm still waiting for the while
Speaker 3: in our seven to come out. But it was, I mean,
Speaker 3: it's you know, it's cats who grew up loving sneakers
Speaker 3: and specifics.
Speaker 2: And with Jay's he got Mike's number.
Speaker 1: You called Mike and aself with the incredible sevens, I
Speaker 1: sure can act like.
Speaker 3: Nah, but that you know that, that's that's a world
Speaker 3: where I was just excited to even be able to create.
Speaker 3: But the ones that everybody talking about now, I ain't
Speaker 3: had learning to do it though.
Speaker 2: I pick up my phone and look who text me?
Speaker 2: Look at the second message.
Speaker 4: He sent me one too, Oh Steve from Jordan Georgian
Speaker 4: h Energy drum line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, how was that?
Speaker 3: Let's talk about that. Yeah, that was twenty years ago. Man,
Speaker 3: it was the Au Center, Atlanta. You know, Uh, a
Speaker 3: lot of people don't know that. Drum line is Dallas
Speaker 3: Austin story, both of them, no question, I at L
Speaker 3: and drum line of both his and he was a
Speaker 3: producer on both of them. Remember we did we did
Speaker 3: We did drum Line first, and he was like, I
Speaker 3: got this other movie called jelly Beans and it was
Speaker 3: telling me was about this roller skating rig in Atlanta
Speaker 3: that him and t Bolls from TLC. And also he's like,
Speaker 3: we used to go and that's eventually what became at L.
Speaker 3: But he was just a creative man on them subcultures
Speaker 3: and I was I mean, he's one of the best
Speaker 3: producers of that generation. So he was a musician but
Speaker 3: never knew how to read music, but was just dope
Speaker 3: on the snare. And that's how you know, we got
Speaker 3: that story. And you know, me growing up almost in
Speaker 3: a similar story teaching yourself self taught musician, I kind
Speaker 3: of picked up on that vibe, and you know, you
Speaker 3: go in and it was it's only so many, like mainstream,
Speaker 3: big budget projects for our culture that come ever so often.
Speaker 3: So everybody in their mama was auditioning for it and
Speaker 3: knew about it, and so I had the relationship. And
Speaker 3: I remember even I had to have had a big
Speaker 3: homie call the president of Fox. I had to have
Speaker 3: will call to be like, Yo, this is the kid.
Speaker 2: It's funny.
Speaker 1: He said that because we had TI on when was
Speaker 1: in Atlanta like a month ago, and he said he
Speaker 1: was auditioning for the role too.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing that's kind of funny, how you know,
Speaker 3: even and you know I was supposed to do you know,
Speaker 3: the other wise atl So that and you always that's
Speaker 3: funny because I'll be watching the different shows and stuff
Speaker 3: and everybody was like, yeah, I was supposed to be this.
Speaker 3: It's like, of course, that's what your team gonna tell
Speaker 3: you that they want you, they want you to come
Speaker 3: in and read for it. But at that point and
Speaker 3: then you know, because everybody's doing their thing, whether you're
Speaker 3: an artist or athlete, are already established, but they're looking
Speaker 3: for That's the that's the magic about acting and about
Speaker 3: this art form that when you know it's right, it's
Speaker 3: gonna be right, you know. And that's the eye of
Speaker 3: a casting director that I have a director. So it
Speaker 3: don't even be no love lost. It don't be like
Speaker 3: you less talented than this person anything. It's just like
Speaker 3: for what this story is we're looking for. We yeah,
Speaker 3: you can be the vessel to get that there. And
Speaker 3: you know, I just gave it my all the young age,
Speaker 3: but I ain't had no hopes in it. I ain't
Speaker 3: know what it was gonna be. Again. I just thought
Speaker 3: it was another dope opportunity to have fun, and you know,
Speaker 3: I was gonna go hard because I knew this world.
Speaker 3: And then once we went to Atlanta, it's another thing too.
Speaker 3: They want I remember for you know, uh, Orlando Jones.
Speaker 3: Originally they they wanted Jamie Fox for it. Oh really yeah,
Speaker 3: originally Orlando killed it though, But that's what I was like,
Speaker 3: I can't even see it, Jamie my favorite actor, and
Speaker 3: but I don't think he could have been Doctor Lee.
Speaker 3: And it's funny because Drumline became one of Jamie's favorite movies,
Speaker 3: and then he was so proud of me. He's like,
Speaker 3: you knew me since I was a kid, and he's
Speaker 3: like he would for years come up to me reciting
Speaker 3: lines of like, man, I love that movie. You and
Speaker 3: Orlando killed it. So it's like the energy is just
Speaker 3: when it's.
Speaker 2: Right, right's right? Can you read music now? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was acquiring. I played in the band in
Speaker 4: middle school, but that was the hardest thing to do.
Speaker 3: It's one of the I mean, you know, I go once.
Speaker 3: It's tedious, so as kids, you don't want to do it.
Speaker 3: But even now, like sight reading, like if I sit down,
Speaker 3: I gotta it's gonna take me a minute. But if
Speaker 3: I just want to mess around, I can go crazy.
Speaker 3: And that's the same thing on the drums or anything.
Speaker 3: But when you got to keep that tempo and you know,
Speaker 3: it's the language to keep you know, the frequency moving,
Speaker 3: so as you're reading, you gotta make sure you vibe
Speaker 3: in too. So it's not the easiest thing in the world,
Speaker 3: but it's also it's it's simple yet complex.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between TV and the big screen.
Speaker 3: Nowadays? Nothing? I mean it's all on multiple screens now.
Speaker 3: Back then it used to be there. It was some
Speaker 3: compartmentalization based off of movie stars would looked at. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they used to say television stars are more like family
Speaker 3: because they're in your home. Movie stars you are more
Speaker 3: on art because they're forty feet high. And then music
Speaker 3: stars are more connected to your heart and your passion
Speaker 3: because they're in your ear and their party. They're the
Speaker 3: rhythm and the pulse and the soundtrack to your life.
Speaker 3: So that's why being able to be a part of Australia.
Speaker 2: So you fuck with all of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so it's really finding a connection because ain't
Speaker 3: nothinglike feeling like, you know, when you're on TV. Everybody
Speaker 3: well yeah, I know you like that energy because they
Speaker 3: see you on TV every day in their house and
Speaker 3: they ain't have to pay for you to need it.
Speaker 3: But you know, movie stars people a little little starstruck
Speaker 3: because they see you on that big screen. And then
Speaker 3: music people got so much pack. That's why we fall
Speaker 3: in love with the Tupacs and the Waynes and the
Speaker 3: you know, Boosey's and the Mary Jay's and Beyonce's because
Speaker 3: we feel like, yo, I couldn't. I wouldn't have made
Speaker 3: it too without this song that. So it's like I've
Speaker 3: always saw, you know, the differential nature of being able
Speaker 3: to tap into each one of those and you know,
Speaker 3: be blessed enough to operate in all of those.
Speaker 2: Is it a movie that we know of and seen
Speaker 2: that you've turned down?
Speaker 3: Man turned down? Or also like you know, just he
Speaker 3: said we'll be all day man, It just this game
Speaker 3: is crazy. But it's you get to that point and
Speaker 3: it's even even after he passed the audition stuff. I've
Speaker 3: had movies that I've developed that were mine and because
Speaker 3: a bigger actor or a bigger director would come in
Speaker 3: and be like, yeah, now I want to do that,
Speaker 3: and then the studio will be like, well, we're gonna
Speaker 3: make a hundred million dollars if he does it, and
Speaker 3: it's like damn, like it was I remember one story.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: This was another one that broke my heart because it
Speaker 3: was I remember I was at the premiere of the Matrix,
Speaker 3: uh and it might have been a Matrix too, and
Speaker 3: the there was this producer who produced all the Fast
Speaker 3: and Furious movies Neil Maritz and we was like super
Speaker 3: cool man. He was like, I got this great film
Speaker 3: for you, call RPM. He's like, it's about a black
Speaker 3: Formula one driver, a young Formula one driver and he
Speaker 3: goes overseas for this big jewelry heights and he's stealing
Speaker 3: jewelry on the side. Why he's winning winning Formula one
Speaker 3: races and his partner in crime is this big jewelsy.
Speaker 3: It's like, we're gonna get Nicholas Cage to play. It's
Speaker 3: gonna be you and Nicholas Cage, Nick and Nick. It's
Speaker 3: like it's gonna be just as big as Fast. And
Speaker 3: I'm juiced, like I got Fast in the period. Its like,
Speaker 3: and he'd be playing me with Nicholas Cage and were
Speaker 3: rocking and get all do we do the deal? I'm like,
Speaker 3: I'm on now, Like I feel I feel like I
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, this is the one. This is like
Speaker 3: it's like, this is gonna be bigger than rush Hower, Nick.
Speaker 2: And Nick and all of this stuff.
Speaker 3: And I'm like and then they're like, we're just trying
Speaker 3: to close up Nicholas Cage deal because you know, we
Speaker 3: offered them twenty million. But he wants twenty five, and
Speaker 3: they're like, we're gonna see if we can get there,
Speaker 3: and then uh, some some other producer gave him twenty
Speaker 3: five to do this movie called National Treasure.
Speaker 2: I was like, but Nick, what I mean?
Speaker 3: But it's stuff like that happens all the time. And
Speaker 3: that's even one of those things was like, I got
Speaker 3: to stop getting excited about stuff until you know, you
Speaker 3: can speak it into existence and watch it coming to fruition.
Speaker 3: But don't, you know, don't don't start trying to scramble them.
Speaker 1: Eggs almost till it comes out, because sometimes you can
Speaker 1: shoot shit to never go either man.
Speaker 3: And there's so much that's happened several times when we
Speaker 3: done made movies and we thought it was gonna go
Speaker 3: and sit on the shelf five years, and then by
Speaker 3: the time it come out.
Speaker 2: Like lost culture shifted, you know, in the world.
Speaker 3: So it's you never know, you just got to be
Speaker 3: in it for the moment and appreciate the present and
Speaker 3: the gift and that at that time.
Speaker 2: Is there anybody that you are in all working with?
Speaker 4: You work with Samuel Jackson, Angela bess At, Steve Harvey, shoot.
Speaker 3: Man, I mean, really working with Spike just as a
Speaker 3: filmmaker and watching Spike move, and that was I love
Speaker 3: just who he is for the culture, who he is
Speaker 3: as a person. Spike is really that dude man like
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think anybody like that. That's the probably
Speaker 3: person I was a student of. And I was just
Speaker 3: following him around and watching how he was getting to
Speaker 3: it and even how he was dealing with people like
Speaker 3: Wesley Snipes and you know, telling him where his motivation
Speaker 3: was and how to how to portray the character talking
Speaker 3: to Angela Bassett and you know, like you said, Samuel
Speaker 3: or Jackson. So I'm just over his shoulder, just peeping
Speaker 3: how the reference that they have for him. And so
Speaker 3: Spike is probably the person I was probably the most
Speaker 3: in awe of.
Speaker 2: How was it making Ink will equell?
Speaker 3: I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: It's funny that you say that.
Speaker 3: I know you put the love cost of things.
Speaker 2: Joy, I'm talking loved no cost of things what I said,
Speaker 2: because they damn need the same movie.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what you like one of the few
Speaker 3: people who pick up on that because it's funny too,
Speaker 3: because think about it, where we first saw.
Speaker 2: A little lady in this movie that I like, you see.
Speaker 3: Lorenz Tate as old dog in Minutes where he is
Speaker 3: straight gangster, and then the next time we see him
Speaker 3: here in the Ink well as a straight nerve.
Speaker 2: That's the same type of movie. It was funny.
Speaker 3: The same thing with me is like and in drum Line,
Speaker 3: I was a little thug and then in the next
Speaker 3: movie you saw me and was loved on cossing in
Speaker 3: the same nerve with the little twist and trying to
Speaker 3: figure out trying to get the hot girl like she
Speaker 3: was hot. Yeah, but that like that girl of who
Speaker 3: is the girl? It was Jada, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Come on, man, how do you not remember that? Yeah?
Speaker 3: That was Jada obviously my love interest and loved him
Speaker 3: because the thing was Christina Millian, So so you know,
Speaker 3: it was it was a time. It was a time.
Speaker 2: Christina Milian is the softest thing ever. You kidding me?
Speaker 2: Me and my wife loved Christina Millian. You talk about her, man,
Speaker 2: She's just you have the courage to share with the world.
Speaker 2: How do you not know that.
Speaker 1: Your illness lupis you know, and that's you know, normally
Speaker 1: when people go through stuff, it's it's always a private
Speaker 1: and you felt, you know, maybe I don't know what
Speaker 1: you want what you felt, but explain why you felt
Speaker 1: to share it with the world.
Speaker 3: It was It's an interesting time. It's like twenty twelve.
Speaker 3: I was married, I just had you know, two kids,
Speaker 3: and to get hit with something that I didn't understand.
Speaker 3: You know, you get you start thinking about like is
Speaker 3: this hereditary?
Speaker 2: Is this?
Speaker 3: Am I going to die now? Later soon? What do
Speaker 3: I like? How do I got to figure this out?
Speaker 3: And I was like, man, if anything, if I know
Speaker 3: I'm struggling with this, there's a lot of people out
Speaker 3: here who are probably struggling with you know, chronic illness
Speaker 3: and different situations that don't have the the information that
Speaker 3: is being given to me or even the process. So
Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I want to I want
Speaker 3: to be able to be a conduit for anybody who's
Speaker 3: dealing with any form of illness, to be able to
Speaker 3: say you don't have to be ashamed of it. Uh
Speaker 3: And it was a learning process because you know, I
Speaker 3: was able to tap into a lot of communities because
Speaker 3: not because my loop is diagnosis was also you know,
Speaker 3: affecting my kidneys too, so there's the whole kidney disease
Speaker 3: community and uh so people just embraced me where it
Speaker 3: was a little nerve wrecking at first because I was
Speaker 3: dealing with stuff and you know, you get out there
Speaker 3: and you loopis is a condition where people you could
Speaker 3: look like you all right, but you can be going
Speaker 3: through it like you take hours to get out of
Speaker 3: the bed type of stuff, or you just you know,
Speaker 3: inflammation wherever it lands in your body can affect so
Speaker 3: many different things that you never even were thinking about it.
Speaker 3: You know, the medicines can make your hair fall out,
Speaker 3: make me swell up, all of that stuff, and so
Speaker 3: I got to still be an entertainer. I deal with this,
Speaker 3: So it was a little easier people kind of a
Speaker 3: certain times they were understanding, like he not on his
Speaker 3: a game right now, give him a minute, you know.
Speaker 3: And that's at least from my my personal condition. I've
Speaker 3: learned like even when I do have flare ups a
Speaker 3: little setbacks, it's always a getback. So it just you
Speaker 3: got to just treat your body, right. You got to
Speaker 3: listen to your body. And it's actually made me more
Speaker 3: health conscious and probably more aware of what's going on
Speaker 3: and focused on health and wellness than I would have
Speaker 3: ever been before. Because a lot of people go to
Speaker 3: the gym and work out because they want to look good.
Speaker 3: I'll do it because I want to stay alive. So
Speaker 3: it's like I've studied every type of diet and really
Speaker 3: you got to figure out what works for you in
Speaker 3: this scenario like that, the balance of what prescribed medicines
Speaker 3: you know, or holistic approaches. I've done it all. I've
Speaker 3: set with every type of doctor to kind of get
Speaker 3: to that space to be the you know, the best
Speaker 3: vessel I could be.
Speaker 4: I want to Yeah, I want to commend you because
Speaker 4: my third oldest daughter is dealing with lupa's and it
Speaker 4: just shuts her down sometimes. So to see you still
Speaker 4: be able to do everything you're doing, Man, I command you, bro,
Speaker 4: because I know how tough it could be.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I appreciate And people don't see that, but
Speaker 3: that's to me. When you have a you know, a
Speaker 3: condition like that, you what I've learned is like staying
Speaker 3: active and consistently then that that prevents getting there and
Speaker 3: that's you know, I was in the hospital in December
Speaker 3: because I was going so hard, wasn't doing what I
Speaker 3: was supposed to do. And then once once it hits you,
Speaker 3: it takes you all the way out. So and that's
Speaker 3: the thing. You're like, all right, I'm gonna do right
Speaker 3: next time, Like you literally like, I'm not gonna let
Speaker 3: that happen again. So I think hopefully, you know, whether
Speaker 3: they find a cure or even a process, but hopefully,
Speaker 3: you know, I'll be able to ride it out as
Speaker 3: long as long as I'm supposed to. My doctor's always
Speaker 3: telling me, like, if you take care of yourself, you
Speaker 3: can live a normal life. But you start bullshit and
Speaker 3: you know it's gonna take you.
Speaker 1: Out for those that. And forgive me because I'm not
Speaker 1: very educated on the process. Can you tell me, like
Speaker 1: what a tough day is?
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, man, I mean honestly, it's inflammation. I mean,
Speaker 3: we've all kind of dealt with that, and and it's
Speaker 3: you know, at least mine specifically, it is kind of
Speaker 3: related to like the effects of what probably what arthritis
Speaker 3: is or you know what I mean, where your joints
Speaker 3: lock up. Literally you came with your hands hand and
Speaker 3: then you start to swell up and get this stuff
Speaker 3: called a dema where it's like it's water. Your body's
Speaker 3: inflaming all over, so you can't get out of bed,
Speaker 3: you can't move, and it's just feels like bad cramps,
Speaker 3: and then it takes a minute. Like to me sometimes
Speaker 3: it used to be like I just have to However,
Speaker 3: I can make it to the shower or to the
Speaker 3: bath and then hot water actually like all right. And
Speaker 3: then from there it's like making sure I put the
Speaker 3: right vitamins and vegetables and stuff like that, because getting
Speaker 3: your system to recognize how to get rid of inflammation.
Speaker 3: We all got remedies and stuff how to get rid
Speaker 3: of inflammation. So it's a lot of that type of stuff,
Speaker 3: and even simple ideas like green or ginger tea like
Speaker 3: that type of stuff helps. But then and it's usually
Speaker 3: it's a morning time and a night time thing. Once
Speaker 3: I'm in the day and I'm moving, I'm active, but
Speaker 3: it's cool with them. By the time the sun goes
Speaker 3: down again, that's when it's like cramping up and can't move.
Speaker 3: And then that puts a toll on your mind, and
Speaker 3: you know, and I'm pretty sure, like, shoot, if it's
Speaker 3: inflamed everywhere else, it's probably inflamed too. But I think
Speaker 3: that's even that, like I found different methods to help
Speaker 3: deal with like that's why I was even saying the
Speaker 3: circadian clock thing is something that you know, Dick Gregory
Speaker 3: even told me about, you know, back then. He's like, Yo,
Speaker 3: our bodies tell you you're supposed to go to sleep
Speaker 3: when the sun goes down. That's just human nature. He's like,
Speaker 3: that was that was a defense mechanism with predators, you know,
Speaker 3: back in the ancestors days, because and that's when your
Speaker 3: body needs to recharge. You if you're eating and standing
Speaker 3: up during the times where your body's supposed to be recuperating,
Speaker 3: you're gonna throw throw the clock off. And he's like,
Speaker 3: and then if you get up before the sun or
Speaker 3: with the sun, now your body gets a true chance
Speaker 3: to fill all of those enzymes and things and refresh
Speaker 3: its way properly. So now just even with that shift
Speaker 3: in practice, I don't have to deal with a lot
Speaker 3: of those pains and stuff because I go to sleep,
Speaker 3: you know, when my body tells me to, and then
Speaker 3: I wake up and I have that times, whether it's
Speaker 3: from yoga, meditation, and make sure I'm all stretched out
Speaker 3: not cramped up, and I ain't got to worry about
Speaker 3: none of the art.
Speaker 2: Right. Thank you for sharing. We both me and Matt
Speaker 2: both the fathers.
Speaker 4: I think Matt is one of the guys who can
Speaker 4: be a mascot for being able to juggle a million
Speaker 4: things and be a father and you also a father
Speaker 4: and have a man that wear many hats.
Speaker 2: How is it juggling work and fatherhood? Man? I love it.
Speaker 3: Man, that's my first job. Like you talk about, it's
Speaker 3: just that there's no joy like fatherhood, like when you
Speaker 3: really tap into it. I mean, we're chasing a bag,
Speaker 3: chasing everything we could chase out here, But when you
Speaker 3: really see the effect that you can have over your
Speaker 3: children from birth to whatever they become, like in all
Speaker 3: of you man coaching and stuff like that, Like, shoot,
Speaker 3: my son got a game today that you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? And like I never it's interesting because I
Speaker 3: didn't necessarily have that energy from my pops, you know,
Speaker 3: but he was he was president, you know, taught me
Speaker 3: about spirituality and religion and all of that. But I
Speaker 3: never thought I'd be like the coach dad, because sports
Speaker 3: wasn't my my thing necessarily. But to see, you know,
Speaker 3: all of the the values and how it's just even
Speaker 3: just making making my kids like better people, just an
Speaker 3: understanding discipline and you don't even have to implement it,
Speaker 3: you know. I mean, like once and you just follow
Speaker 3: their passion. And it's like, so, man, just that alone,
Speaker 3: I'll be more interested in that than anything that has
Speaker 3: to do with work a career because I'm like one,
Speaker 3: because you know, a psychology degree. I'm like, I'm watching
Speaker 3: their brains develop on and passion off of what they
Speaker 3: want and the people that they're becoming, and I'm just
Speaker 3: trying to support that. So I'm fascinated to understand what
Speaker 3: like a five year old can digest in terms of
Speaker 3: an eleven year old, or how they putting this together
Speaker 3: because they way more brilliant than we ever work. And
Speaker 3: just like whether it's the access to the technology and stuff,
Speaker 3: but it's so fascinating man that I learned stuff from
Speaker 3: my children every day from all the ages. I'm just like, wow,
Speaker 3: I would you know, because I'm deep into it. Like,
Speaker 3: you know, one of my kids, he's six years old
Speaker 3: in the second grade reading that eighth grade level. But
Speaker 3: it's like we developed and that's credit to his mom.
Speaker 3: Like but like I and you know, she getting her
Speaker 3: PhD in psychology right now. So we really study the
Speaker 3: brain and how the neual transmitters clicking fire off at
Speaker 3: certain age century ages and developmental processes that when kids
Speaker 3: start to recognize language, and so it's that type of
Speaker 3: stuff to where I'm on that so heavy that every
Speaker 3: day I'm learning something about And then you know, even
Speaker 3: when you think about like the like Freud's process of
Speaker 3: how we deal with therapy, they always take us back
Speaker 3: to our childhood. So as I'm examining my own shit
Speaker 3: and trying to be a better person through therapy, I'm
Speaker 3: watching memories that I had when I was five and
Speaker 3: six that might have shaped who I am now. And
Speaker 3: I got a five or six year old, Oh, let
Speaker 3: me make sure I don't do that. Let me or
Speaker 3: if I did make this mistake, how do I correct
Speaker 3: it now so he don't make the same mistakes as
Speaker 3: I did, or she doesn't get put in a position.
Speaker 3: So it's crazy, man like fatherhood has shown me so
Speaker 3: much growth and really it's become my life passion.
Speaker 2: What's the thought process behind the names with your kids?
Speaker 3: Because that's part of it. There's so much in the name,
Speaker 3: and it's so much and speaking things into existing. It's
Speaker 3: the power of words, and it's it's it's it's funny.
Speaker 3: That's that's why they call it spelling because it's like
Speaker 3: we cast spells with our words. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: And it's I always wanted there to be a meaning.
Speaker 3: And you know, even like some of that, I come
Speaker 3: from a culture we have like African names, and we
Speaker 3: we hear them, but we don't necessarily know what they mean.
Speaker 4: I wish I could have chosen my name. Yeah, it
Speaker 4: would be it would have been a Muslim name.
Speaker 3: But and but even again, because there's there's culture to it.
Speaker 3: There there's things that at least you know, it would
Speaker 3: be like the within, like when you get to it
Speaker 3: or you know, warrior. And I was like, I might
Speaker 3: go in that direction, but I want everybody to know
Speaker 3: what the word. And so instead of you know, naming
Speaker 3: one of my daughters, you know a word that means beautiful, No,
Speaker 3: I want to name her beautiful. So when you stepping on,
Speaker 3: everybody got to call her that. Instead of knowing that
Speaker 3: my one of my daughters is a powerful queen. I
Speaker 3: could have did that in Swahili or Spanish or anything.
Speaker 3: It was like, nah, we're just gonna call her powerful queen.
Speaker 3: So everybody, can you give.
Speaker 2: Us the list of names?
Speaker 3: And it's feel like everybody be trying to a game
Speaker 3: show challenge.
Speaker 2: No, I just want I just wanted to.
Speaker 4: I got got, I got seven in the bone.
Speaker 2: I'll be getting stuck some times.
Speaker 1: I say, between y'all two y'all can have like three
Speaker 1: NBA teams.
Speaker 2: So start ah.
Speaker 3: But my oldest is Moroccan in Monroe rock and Roll
Speaker 3: as Uh. I can't even take full credit for those names.
Speaker 3: That's that's Mariah. I gave them the nickname. But Mariah
Speaker 3: always loved Marilyn Monroe. And then we you know, the
Speaker 3: Moorish concept with me like that I always had a
Speaker 3: love for Morocco and that we had a Moroccan room
Speaker 3: in the house. So that's where I proposed to her.
Speaker 3: So he was like, yo, So that's where Rock's name
Speaker 3: came from. So and then I had Golden. Uh, that's
Speaker 3: the one I was talking about. Was literally a genius.
Speaker 2: It was like the name worked. It worked.
Speaker 3: So there's Golden and Powerful and Rise, and then I
Speaker 3: have Zion zillion, Beautiful Zeppelin. She would we added beautiful
Speaker 3: at the end because but she had all z names.
Speaker 3: And then we had Zen and then we got Legendary,
Speaker 3: legendary Love. And then I got Onyx and then my
Speaker 3: youngest is helo.
Speaker 2: That's dope more.
Speaker 3: I don't know, man, I ain't playing on it.
Speaker 2: I'm tapped out.
Speaker 3: But you know, like you never know, man, I believe
Speaker 3: you know, my twelve is right where it needs to be.
Speaker 3: That's my jury, that's the constellations, the Disciples, we rocket,
Speaker 3: it's the Dirty dozen.
Speaker 2: A parent is never supposed to bury their child.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my mom.
Speaker 4: I just buried my little brother and my mom has
Speaker 4: not been the same person since. And you went through that,
Speaker 4: You've been through that, losing the child, So can't you
Speaker 4: talk about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's it's nobody should have to experience that.
Speaker 3: I mean, we all lose people, you know, in the physical,
Speaker 3: and it actually makes you tap into your spiritual a
Speaker 3: little bit more and understand that beyond this dimension there's
Speaker 3: so much more. And you really feel like as if
Speaker 3: I've lost somebody physically, it as painful as it is,
Speaker 3: if you have a spiritual connection, you know how to
Speaker 3: get back to them and be in tune with them.
Speaker 3: You said, to be absent from the body is to
Speaker 3: be present with the most high and if we're on
Speaker 3: that highest frequency, you know how to as there. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and it sounds a little esoteric and but it's real,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And only people who have
Speaker 3: lost somebody know what that is. And you're losing a child, man,
Speaker 3: it's like because you feel the guilt of not being
Speaker 3: able to get all that you felt like you was
Speaker 3: gonna get naturally, you take that for granted. You never
Speaker 3: think your child will. So even you don't have as
Speaker 3: many memories as you want, you know, or even man,
Speaker 3: I wonder if he understood or if there was a connection,
Speaker 3: and then then then it's that space of all right, well,
Speaker 3: if we tapping into energy, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: is that energy living gonna live on? Is it gonna
Speaker 3: be reciprocated? So those are the things that keep you
Speaker 3: up at night, you know. But having family and having
Speaker 3: the people to go through it with you is what
Speaker 3: keeps you strong man. Yeah, And that's and really keeping
Speaker 3: you know, keeping the physical memory alive. You never want
Speaker 3: to run from it. People grieve differently, but you gotta
Speaker 3: you gotta do it, you know what I mean. You know,
Speaker 3: you like, you can't heal if you can't feel, so
Speaker 3: like it's you gotta feel that so you can allow
Speaker 3: yourself to heal a little bit.
Speaker 4: I just I want to tell Matt this because I
Speaker 4: ain't never told the story too, and you hear I
Speaker 4: mind sharing it. It was like three days after my
Speaker 4: brother's funeral, and I was laying in bed with my wife,
Speaker 4: and you know, my wife's snore a little bit, right,
Speaker 4: So I'm I'm I'm up a little bit, but i'm
Speaker 4: sleep you know what I'm saying, because I'm thinking about
Speaker 4: my brother's I'm up crying. So as I'm dozing off,
Speaker 4: she's snoring and I'm getting into a deep sleep and
Speaker 4: her third snore comes out and it says Jack in my.
Speaker 2: Brother's voice, m through her snore. Wow. And I jumped up.
Speaker 2: And two seconds later my mama walked in the room
Speaker 2: and stay, did you hear that? Wow? Bro?
Speaker 4: It's the crazy shit ever, the crazy shit ever. So
Speaker 4: they win you, Bro, they with you. I'm a living
Speaker 4: testament of that. That's my first time I ever experienced
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, said, man. These different dimensions and different realms
Speaker 3: that we we our spirits go to, and it's real m.
Speaker 3: We can't explain it, but we're not supposed to be
Speaker 3: able to explain it.
Speaker 1: Jamie Fox a favorite of ours, someone you've known for a.
Speaker 2: Lot of time, so we probably had he came out
Speaker 2: before the cameras even came on. We was dying laughing.
Speaker 1: Explain what he's meant to you and and any funny
Speaker 1: stories you could share with us.
Speaker 3: Man, he just I've never witnessed somebody like that. Man,
Speaker 3: So talented and most talented person I've ever seen in
Speaker 3: my life, but so kind and real like the life
Speaker 3: of every room he walks into man and just like energy,
Speaker 3: always on how to keep good people around. And he
Speaker 3: a good dude like I've never witnessed it. And again,
Speaker 3: being a young man to be able to watch cash
Speaker 3: like him and Will Smith and all these dudes maneuver
Speaker 3: and create their own dynasties and still just be cool,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And it's crazy when you
Speaker 3: think of the heights that Jamie is reached. He's the
Speaker 3: best to ever do it, but the humblest dude in
Speaker 3: the world.
Speaker 4: Jamie is one of the best people ever. I remember
Speaker 4: when I was I posted that thing about Josh for
Speaker 4: a crime. The next morning, I said, I was on
Speaker 4: my way to Minnesota, I'm talking about. As soon as
Speaker 4: I landed, Jamie Fox called me, I'm all my way.
Speaker 2: I never met him. I'm on my way to stand
Speaker 2: right by your side. Bro.
Speaker 4: He came down and still by my side doing the
Speaker 4: press conference and all that. I can't I can't say
Speaker 4: how much I love Jamis Foxes.
Speaker 3: You're a real one.
Speaker 1: Is there anyone in kind of your space right now
Speaker 1: that you feel like could be the next one?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I mean that's what this Future Superstar Tour
Speaker 3: is about. Like, really these young kids, man is, I
Speaker 3: can't even It's.
Speaker 2: A bunch of oh really okay, yeah, it's a.
Speaker 3: Bunch of them, man, even from even the spaces like
Speaker 3: the kids with on wild'n Out to like even like
Speaker 3: we talk about d C. You're super talented, got that
Speaker 3: superstar energy. But it's it's so many young people I
Speaker 3: couldn't even pinpoint. But that's I mean, come rock with
Speaker 3: It's on this tour. You're gonna see you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? From from Symbol on down to this kid, JD.
Speaker 3: Mcquarie's a singer, actor, dancer, kid. He was the voice
Speaker 3: of Symbol and uh yeah, I heard, like, Uh that's what,
Speaker 3: that's what. That's the gift that God has given me man,
Speaker 3: to be able to be a conduit and a curator
Speaker 3: for for New Talent.
Speaker 2: So are you guys in La all for this tour? Uh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Shoot, we're in LA this weekend. We uh l
Speaker 3: a and anahein. That's where we kick it off and
Speaker 3: we go. Then we got Texas next week, Atlanta, Miami, Chicago,
Speaker 3: all the way.
Speaker 2: That we say about pull up on you this weekend.
Speaker 2: And I got nothing to do neither.
Speaker 1: Your career really almost seems like you started when you
Speaker 1: were a kid. Yeah, but looking back out it now
Speaker 1: and obviously we know you still have a long way
Speaker 1: to go. Do you ever just kind of sit back
Speaker 1: and appreciate what you've accomplished, the doors you've opened for
Speaker 1: not on yourself but others. Or is it too much
Speaker 1: of I'm still got more to do.
Speaker 3: I still got more to do, Okay, Yeah, Like I
Speaker 3: feel like it's just the beginning. I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: definitely stepping into that space where the main goal is
Speaker 3: just to help people. It's just to do for others.
Speaker 3: I've done everything I could ever imagine, man like stuff
Speaker 3: that I wasn't even part of my dream come true
Speaker 3: for me. So again goes back to that too much
Speaker 3: is giving much is required and you know, practicing compassion
Speaker 3: that's at the highest level, at the highest frequency, Like
Speaker 3: wherever I can show people that, like yo, we're chilling,
Speaker 3: We're good. You good. I'm here to do for you,
Speaker 3: like I'm a servant of.
Speaker 1: The people I was blessed to be able to meet Nip,
Speaker 1: spend some time with them. You take in that Doctor
Speaker 1: Sebbi documentary is where where's that out?
Speaker 2: Is the coming?
Speaker 3: We're still a post yeah, man, it's I mean, it's
Speaker 3: because the pandemic kind of messed a lot of stuff up,
Speaker 3: you know, because we was, we was ready to rock,
Speaker 3: and then we actually even had to add a lot
Speaker 3: of that type of stuff in there. So it's it's
Speaker 3: now it's just about getting it right and for everybody involved,
Speaker 3: for Nip's legacy and family, for Doctor Save's legacy and
Speaker 3: family telling and being authentic and telling the true story
Speaker 3: and really getting to it. But I know the culture
Speaker 3: wants it so bad. You know, That's probably one of
Speaker 3: the main questions that I get asked more than anything.
Speaker 3: It's like, yo, win the Doctor Saves, Doctor dropping it.
Speaker 3: We just want to make sure one it's not the
Speaker 3: right platform because even what I you know, I promise
Speaker 3: you know, Nipsey's families that we're gonna handle it with prestige.
Speaker 3: We're gonna make sure that whatever we do, it gotta
Speaker 3: be you know, award winning and world renown. It can't
Speaker 3: just be something that you oh yeah, I saw that
Speaker 3: on YouTube, you know, like it got and even for
Speaker 3: doctor Sevig's family too, because you know, his holistic teachings
Speaker 3: have helped so many and really can be eye opening.
Speaker 3: Whether you practice it or understand it or don't, it's
Speaker 3: still about you know, uh, a black man who was
Speaker 3: standing firm against the system and internationally was trying to
Speaker 3: you know, educate people about the African biron mineral process
Speaker 3: and that's that's a real thing. And you know, just
Speaker 3: even when we were talking about the body is a
Speaker 3: self healing organism and if you can tap into that
Speaker 3: and understand that, you know, big Farmer don't get a
Speaker 3: chance to be a process, to be a part of
Speaker 3: your healing. People wish you the best to look now
Speaker 3: it's coming though, it's coming.
Speaker 1: Now we got quick hitters man. First thing to come
Speaker 1: to mind, let us know a favorite country or city.
Speaker 2: In the world to visit.
Speaker 3: Dang Jamaica.
Speaker 2: Oh, I ain't been to Jamaica. Yet get there. What
Speaker 2: been in a lot of different places.
Speaker 3: Nah, you gotta go, Yeah, you gotta.
Speaker 2: Go to Sandals and Mono Babe Sandos.
Speaker 4: Tell you they got the apartments in the water whatever
Speaker 4: they call them ships. I don't know what they call them.
Speaker 4: It's some name what they call their little houses in
Speaker 4: the waters.
Speaker 2: No, it's not.
Speaker 4: Now, that's not a combanom call them cabanas. Cabanas About
Speaker 4: the things on the side by the.
Speaker 5: Pool, bungalow, bungalow, bungalow, bungalows in the middle of the water.
Speaker 4: Food and you can look through the things. You can
Speaker 4: look through the floor, see the fish swimming and all that.
Speaker 2: You tripping. I bet you can get that water. No,
Speaker 2: I ain't getting no water, you know. Hey, hell now
Speaker 2: I can't swim, can you? Doggy pedal? Kevin Hart said,
Speaker 2: that's not how you say it, but that's what you do.
Speaker 4: Uh. Dream Wild In our show head to Head episode
Speaker 4: with you watching as a fan, who would who would
Speaker 4: be on the show?
Speaker 2: You too?
Speaker 1: Let's do that, Let's do that, Let's do that. I
Speaker 1: think that'll be fire. That would be dope. One album
Speaker 1: you could listen to on repeat, No skips.
Speaker 3: Oh, uh, probably life after death.
Speaker 2: You are sun up sundown type of guy. So what
Speaker 2: do you do at sun up? And what do you
Speaker 2: do with sundown?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Son up or I'm up before the sun. But that's
Speaker 3: meditating until the sun come up. You know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Watching it? That that taking that time, uh, sondown, putting
Speaker 3: them kids to bed, get yours be as soon as
Speaker 3: the sun goes down, bedtime.
Speaker 2: Five dinner guests dead or alive?
Speaker 3: Oh, Tupac, Martin, Luther King, uh mm hmmm, Dang, Dick Gregory, uh,
Speaker 3: Marvin game Boy, Marty Succession.
Speaker 2: It's a real side.
Speaker 1: Before you asked this last question, I feel like Nicks,
Speaker 1: the kind of do this is really going to help us.
Speaker 2: Know this is them. I'm so happy to ask him
Speaker 2: this question because I feel like he's gonna really help
Speaker 2: us do it.
Speaker 4: It might be beneficent. Yeah, we asked a whole bunch
Speaker 4: of people this question. They just heard it and walked out.
Speaker 4: They didn't pay attention to it. Right, A lot of
Speaker 4: people come on pressure. Yeah, if you could see anyone
Speaker 4: on the show, who could who would it be? But
Speaker 4: but you have to help us get your answer on
Speaker 4: the show.
Speaker 2: You see how we gashed you. You see how we.
Speaker 3: Rage dang trying to think y'all didn't had like.
Speaker 2: You had them all. Yeah, Denzil yet, no no you ain't.
Speaker 2: Will Smith get it.
Speaker 5: Let's get it, Jes, make that happen case on all
Speaker 5: you motherfuckers, because he just he wanted he a walking
Speaker 5: walking wisdom man, like a sorry from all the great
Speaker 5: performances and acting and who he is as a humanitarian
Speaker 5: like his he especially because he an O G now too,
Speaker 5: so he ready to give you the game and like
Speaker 5: he just got everything he say is quotable.
Speaker 2: That was I said.
Speaker 4: I say he calmed him down to say he was
Speaker 4: walking around like anim set, just nervous and the like,
Speaker 4: hey shut up, they got you here for a reason.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. So you can tell he's
Speaker 2: that O G.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, well we need to get show yo, call
Speaker 3: whatever we got to do.
Speaker 2: Let's get it. That's some merch. They got this stuff
Speaker 2: in the Lewis bag recular smoke bag?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 2: You want me to do what I do? Ahead?
Speaker 4: Hey, all people out there in this world, we have
Speaker 4: a nice little care package for our brother Nick.
Speaker 2: Karenon and we haven't here. Oh there's some new ship.
Speaker 2: We ain't got this the man skate body wash that's
Speaker 2: what we got, the buffer and all that and what
Speaker 2: else they got in there? Uh no, this is my tree.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Got some all the smoke gear, oh bro? And where
Speaker 4: can they Where could they get the all the smoke
Speaker 4: gear so they can look expressions?
Speaker 2: They can all the smoke got story. Appreciate you being here, bro,
Speaker 2: We appreciate it. Can you leave empty handed? We just
Speaker 2: want to say, man for you.
Speaker 1: I mean when we asked you early on like who
Speaker 1: you looked up to in the space and kind of
Speaker 1: modeled like you're that you're that personnel. You know you're
Speaker 1: you're that person now and and we want to make
Speaker 1: sure we give you your flowers. Man, because the hat
Speaker 1: you wear and the grind you put yourself through and
Speaker 1: and and you're transparent, you're vulnerable. You win, you lose,
Speaker 1: but you keep fighting, man, And we just want to say, man,
Speaker 1: we appreciate what you do for the culture.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: That's that's that's that means a lot coming from you all,
Speaker 3: because you guys are doing everything that you just said,
Speaker 3: man like, it's it's really you guys. Pillars and examples
Speaker 3: you know to so many because I mean, you win
Speaker 3: in in so many different fields and accomplish their dreams
Speaker 3: at the highest level, and it still can remain humble
Speaker 3: and relatable, you know what I mean. Like it's y'all
Speaker 3: are modern day giants in most people's eyes when you
Speaker 3: see like you know, from being superstar athletes and then
Speaker 3: even the platforms like this. Man, I don't know if
Speaker 3: you guys understand the impact that like young black boys
Speaker 3: see when they see you, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: and see what you've done and even continue on careers
Speaker 3: and continue to elevate.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 3: So I commend you and salute you in a big way.
Speaker 2: Thank you both, and you know we both you're doing
Speaker 2: things that we're both trying to do. You know, he
Speaker 2: want to be behind the camera. I want to be
Speaker 2: in front. So just make sure we can get in
Speaker 2: contact with you so we can pick so we can.
Speaker 4: Pick your brain, and you know, because there's a lot
Speaker 4: of stuff that we don't know about the things that
Speaker 4: we're getting into. You've been this is your whole life,
Speaker 4: So we can pick your brain and get some advice
Speaker 4: ome here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, appreciated whenever appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Well, that's a rap.
Speaker 1: Man, all the smoke, Nick Cannon, you catch us on
Speaker 1: Showtime Basketball, YouTube and the iHeart platform Black Effects It.
Speaker 1: We'll see y'all next week.
Speaker 3: Let's get it.