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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast today.

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Speaker 2: I am excited because we have the Secretary of the

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Speaker 2: Interior with us, Doug Bergam. You also know him as

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Speaker 2: the former North Dakota governor, but now he is the

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Speaker 2: back from Venezuela, which is very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Well, Tutor, great to be with you. And yeas just

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Speaker 3: got back from Venezuela late last night.

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Speaker 1: That is so, that's why.

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Speaker 2: So we're getting you fresh back from Venezuela, which I

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Speaker 2: think is very exciting because I hear a lot of

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Speaker 2: people that are concerned what's actually happening over there, what

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Speaker 2: is going on with oil, what's going on with gas

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Speaker 2: prices here? And there has been this kind of remarkable

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Speaker 2: deal made with Venezuela or on the oil side.

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Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit about that.

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I just want to say to

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Speaker 3: President Trump, I mean, without his courageous, decisive leadership on

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Speaker 3: January third, that we wouldn't even have in those conversation,

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Speaker 3: and I wouldn't have been in Venezuela. I mean two

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Speaker 3: months ago, Venezuela was a sanctioned adversary, and now they're

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Speaker 3: one becoming one of our most important strategic allies, you know,

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Speaker 3: in the Western Hemisphere. I mean, this is a country

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Speaker 3: that has the only country in the world that has

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Speaker 3: larger oil reserves than Saudi Arabia is Venezuela. And it

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Speaker 3: had been going out, you know, at a discount to

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Speaker 3: of Texas and Louisiana, and which was great for keeping

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Speaker 3: was great for handling their their heavier crude because we'd

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Speaker 3: built these refineries to do it. And you know, they

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Speaker 3: went down a path on you know, socialism under corrupt leadership,

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Speaker 3: and thank you know, President Trump, you know, with his

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Speaker 3: I guess, with his action our military, it's basically a

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Speaker 3: new dawn for the people of Venezuela.

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Speaker 4: People Invenezuela, I'm telling you, they will, they will, they will.

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Speaker 3: Outside of this building, there's a the interior building, and

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Speaker 3: watch the DC there's a statue to Simon Boulevard, the

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Speaker 3: guy that liberated Venezuela and Bolivia back, you know, centuries ago.

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Speaker 3: There will likely be a statue of President Trump and

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Speaker 3: streets renamed after him in Caracas, because this is a

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Speaker 3: guy that his action has, you know, created this new

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Speaker 3: dawn of opportunity for people in Venezuela, and only and

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Speaker 3: only they remember what it was like just over twenty

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Speaker 4: Their economy has shrunken by a factor of four.

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Speaker 3: I mean, their GDP today is one fourth of what

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Speaker 3: it was back when their industry was really going, and

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Speaker 3: that affects everybody in the country. They're just a much

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Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a critical message as we

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Speaker 2: because we are hearing these messages of socialism. In fact,

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Speaker 2: and she's talking about socialism, and this woman was so gracious,

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Speaker 2: but she said, what President Trump did for Venezuela is

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Speaker 2: I've seen the people cheering. They've come to my country

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Speaker 2: to get away from Venezuela. This is such a critical

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Speaker 2: moment for people to understand the infrastructure, the oil infrastructure

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Speaker 2: there was destroyed by socialism and the opportunity here is

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Speaker 4: Correct.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, part of our delegation that we went down

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Speaker 3: on this trip, we had dozens of American companies across

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Speaker 3: rich in critical minerals. That matters to every American because

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Speaker 3: if you use a cell phone, drive a car, have

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Speaker 3: can't we can't be a country and have our independence,

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Speaker 4: They left. They left, I mean and where they go.

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Speaker 4: They went to places like Houston.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there's one of the companies there said we

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Speaker 3: They're chomping to go back down their increased production. Get

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Speaker 3: it's the one of the things that's going to help

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Speaker 3: get it back to the western hemisphere between the US

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Speaker 3: how fantastic will that be.

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Speaker 2: That's been an interesting message that I've heard from both

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Speaker 2: to Iran and Venezuela. It's people who were driven away

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Speaker 2: by these radical policies and you said, leaders, leaders, the

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Speaker 1: But you also talked about the rare earth minerals.

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Speaker 2: And I want to clarify something there because I think

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, because across the US we've got vast resources of minerals.

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Speaker 4: We got ourselves completely out of the mining game.

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Speaker 3: And that was I would say that was a team effort.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's been going on for thirty years. Uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, started back under Clinton. Obama accelerated it. Uh,

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Speaker 3: Biden really took it to the max, you know. But

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Speaker 3: it was basically like, we're not going to permit mins.

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Speaker 3: We're going to fight these things any way we possibly can,

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Speaker 4: By not doing it in America.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, we save nothing because in the US

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Speaker 3: then we outsourced the China. China goes to the Congo

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Speaker 3: And so some of the biggest you know, ecological disasters

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Speaker 4: Care about that place it's not China.

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Speaker 3: They just tear it up, bring it back to China,

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Speaker 4: And then and then they basically.

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Speaker 3: Have got the whole world hostage when they controlled ninety

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Speaker 3: ministerial as they say, it's a new word. I'm learning

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Speaker 3: here from the State Department. But it was like you

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Speaker 4: We had fifty one countries come to DC a couple

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Speaker 3: They all want to cut a deal with the US

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Speaker 3: a solution that will take the rest of democracy, the

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Speaker 3: So again moving at Trump speed to solve some of

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Speaker 3: these important national security issues.

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Speaker 1: But Venezuela and Venezuela issues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah right, yes, in human rights issues, but Venezuela can

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Speaker 3: also be a key part of that as well. And

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Speaker 3: now just last night we normalized relations with Venezuela. I mean,

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Speaker 3: embassy here, Relationships for businesses to start in, capital start flowing,

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just incredible.

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Speaker 3: I mean, all the doubters about President Trump on the

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Speaker 3: we're building incredible positive momentum, and we've got US companies

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Speaker 3: by working in Venezuela again, because that's where that's where

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Speaker 3: many of these companies were twenty years ago.

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Speaker 2: The naysayers will criticize this and they'll say this is

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Speaker 2: to take their oil.

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Speaker 1: But I want you to.

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Speaker 2: Explain how this changes the GDP and the opportunity for

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Speaker 1: Venezuela was really under the control of China.

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Speaker 2: I believe when it came to their oil supply and

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, I'll give you one example.

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Speaker 3: It's pretty simple because they were, you know, their their

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Speaker 3: just a I mean, it's kind of amazing how socialism

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Speaker 3: but that was their big source of revenue. Well, then normally,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to sell it for sixty dollars a barrel.

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Speaker 3: Well, if I'm you know, producing a million barrels a day,

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Speaker 4: China was saying, oh, no, we loaned you money. You

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Speaker 4: owe us some money.

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Speaker 3: Oh and by the way, you know, you guys are sanctioned,

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Speaker 3: so we're not going to pay full price. So they

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Speaker 3: Venezuela was getting thirty dollars instead of sixty, but then

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Speaker 3: going to take fifteen percent apply that against your debt,

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Speaker 3: I mean another fifteen dollars. So then in some cases,

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Speaker 3: as recently as two months ago, Venezuela on a sixty

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Speaker 4: Or one fourth of it.

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Speaker 3: Fifteen dollars out of every barrel we're coming to Venezuela.

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Speaker 3: So it means like literally China was taking three quarters

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that there's we don't understand it

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Speaker 2: So I will just say that perhaps the tour of

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Speaker 1: Aren't in it every day. We don't get it.

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Speaker 2: But I thank you so much for the time that

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Speaker 2: so much, Thanks for explaining this, and thank you for

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Speaker 4: They're tied.

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Speaker 3: I mean Iran having a nuclear weapon existential threat, losing

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Speaker 4: And the last thing for those citizens of Michigan.

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to say I've said this before, but

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I mean, honestly, I'm so impressed every time I talk

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Speaker 2: to anybody who is working in this administration.

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Speaker 1: But everybody has this great knowledge base and you're so

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Speaker 2: And I will just say, behind the scenes, everybody says

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Speaker 2: to us that they love working with you. You are

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Speaker 2: You've always been so kind and special to us. So

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Speaker 2: thank you so much for coming on the podcast and

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Speaker 2: sharing this. It's meaningful to me, but to all the

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Speaker 2: people out there that are trying to figure this out,

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Speaker 2: it's so meaningful that you spend time with us.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: Thank likewise, Tutor, thank you for all you do, and

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Speaker 3: thanks for using your voice and your talent, your skills

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Speaker 3: to reach people and help people understand what the truth

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Speaker 3: is and make sure that they can help make informed

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Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, thank you, Thank you so much, and thank

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Speaker 2: you all for listening to the Tutor Dixon Podcast.

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