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Speaker 1: the majority of quarterbacks. Right. You look around the league.

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Speaker 1: Brock Purdy, if he never gets injured, the only tape

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to go off. If Sam Darnold will

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Speaker 1: be preseason tape, and you look all around the league,

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Speaker 1: Drew Lock whoever. I know some of these guys have

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Speaker 1: played sparingly with the rolled ankle or whatever, but for

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Speaker 1: the most part, they may have seventeen regular season passes.

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Speaker 1: So the majority of your grade is gonna come in

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Speaker 1: the regular season. That's not true for these positions. Hell,

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Speaker 1: even the young punt return for the Jets, Like if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't play that much on offense, I still can

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Speaker 1: evaluate him preseason tape on offense, and I know that

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Speaker 1: he returns and I get to watch all of his

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Speaker 1: punt returns. Right with the backup quarterback, you get nothing.

436
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Speaker 1: So as that position, you need things out of your control,

437
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Speaker 1: either injury or poor play to go your way, and

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Speaker 1: then you're given an opportunity and then you have the

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Speaker 1: opportunity to make yourself a lot of money. And I

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Speaker 1: was thinking about it because the news came out today

441
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Speaker 1: Anthony Richardson is out for the foreseeable future. They put

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Speaker 1: him onney the reserve could be four weeks. But then

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Speaker 1: they ask Shange Psyching and he's like, we'll see, Like

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Speaker 1: ask you know, if he'll be ready to come back

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Speaker 1: in four weeks. You don't know, and there's a chance

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Speaker 1: a guy like Gardner Minshew, who the last couple of

447
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Speaker 1: years hasn't played that much. Right, Hell, he's the backup

448
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Speaker 1: for the Eagles last year with Jalen Hurts, Like I

449
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Speaker 1: guess he got to a couple starts because Jalen shoulder

450
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Speaker 1: got injured. But ultimately, a guy like Gardner Minshew can

451
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Speaker 1: make a ton of money. And you can look up

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Speaker 1: if he has a stretch of seven eight games where

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Speaker 1: he plays winning football. He may never be a starter, right,

454
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Speaker 1: some team might be willing to give him like twelve

455
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Speaker 1: million dollars to be a bridge starter, but he basically

456
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Speaker 1: ensures himself being a lock back up until he's thirty five,

457
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Speaker 1: thirty six years old, and all of a sudden you

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Speaker 1: meet him, You know, Gardner Minshew when he's forty four

459
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Speaker 1: years old at a dinner and he goes, I played

460
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Speaker 1: fourteen years in the NFL, and these opportunities open up

461
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Speaker 1: at the weirdest times. Right, took Anthony Rigidson having a

462
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Speaker 1: shoulder spring. Think of what happened for Joshua Dobbs, who

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Speaker 1: looks like a lock back up for life. Then all

464
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, Colt McCoy gets cut, they trade for him,

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Speaker 1: he gets to be named the starter, and then you

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Speaker 1: watch him, You're like, he's not terrible. Now is he

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Speaker 1: an ideal starting quarterback? Probably not. But if I'm any

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Speaker 1: team with a good quarterback Patrick Mahomes justin Herbert Josh Allen,

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Speaker 1: would I not pay that guy four or five million

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Speaker 1: dollars because my goal is to win. So if my

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Speaker 1: quarterback's out a month, I know I can win two

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Speaker 1: out of the four games, three out of the four

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Speaker 1: games with that guy. So these players look at brock

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Speaker 1: Purty last year. Not in a million years when the

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Speaker 1: season started, even though he made the team, did anyone

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Speaker 1: around the forty nine ers, anyone in the NFL think

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Speaker 1: the guy was gonna throw pass this, let alone start

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Speaker 1: games all of a sudden, a broken ankle, a broken foot.

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Speaker 1: He became the starter a year and a half later.

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Speaker 1: He's like a star. So when your opportunity comes at quarterback,

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Speaker 1: and you never know what it's gonna come at all

482
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Speaker 1: these other positions you're constantly mixing in, you're constantly getting reps.

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Speaker 1: At worst case, if you're dressing on game day, you're

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Speaker 1: playing special teams a backup quarterback, you may never break

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Speaker 1: a sweat, and guys like Gardner, Minshew, Joshua Dobbs get

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Speaker 1: their opportunity. And honestly, you watch Minshew last week, you

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Speaker 1: watch Joshua Dobbs throughout the season, I'm pretty impressed. I

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Speaker 1: look at it and I go that guy, at worst

489
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Speaker 1: is the best backup quarterback in the NFL. And ideally

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Speaker 1: you don't want that guy. You don't want him to

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Speaker 1: be your starting quarter But when you're in that position,

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Speaker 1: you basically, as long as you're healthy, you have a

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Speaker 1: job for a long long time. So those guys are

494
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Speaker 1: great examples of when opportunity comes knock and you can

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Speaker 1: bust through that door and change your career forever and

496
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Speaker 1: definitely change your bank account. The Steelers. I saw a

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Speaker 1: clip yesterday and I'm sure many saw this. It was

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Speaker 1: the Penguins game. It might have been I'm not a

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Speaker 1: huge hockey guy, the opening night of the NHL. It

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Speaker 1: could have been the last preseason game. Sorry, hockey guy,

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Speaker 1: not super locked in. But they were chanting fire Canada.

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Speaker 1: And before we dive into the specifics of just the

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Speaker 1: Steelers issues on offense, an underrated part about the popularity

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Speaker 1: of the sport of football like in baseball, unless your

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Speaker 1: position coach, like your hitting coach is Mark McGuire or

506
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Speaker 1: Jason Gamby or some famous guy, you have no clue

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Speaker 1: unless you're a die hard hardball guy, who your assistant

508
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Speaker 1: coaches are. You know your manager and your players, and

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Speaker 1: maybe if an assistant coach has been there a long time,

510
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Speaker 1: you get to know them, but you don't know them

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Speaker 1: like you do your offensive and defensive coordinator in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: In basketball, you have no clue who your assistant coaches

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Speaker 1: are unless they're former head coaches. And I think one

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Speaker 1: thing that's really separated in the NFL is head coaches

515
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Speaker 1: in sports my entire life have always been big parts

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Speaker 1: of the reality television show that is just baseball, basketball

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Speaker 1: or football, right the manager, the coaches in baseball or

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Speaker 1: excuse me, basketball in the NFL. But one thing that

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Speaker 1: has really exploded in the NFL, and maybe it's always

520
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Speaker 1: been like this, but it feels like more now than ever,

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Speaker 1: and especially the last four or five years, they're more

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Speaker 1: famous are the coordinators. So it's one thing to yell

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Speaker 1: at your head coach for the decisions he's making. It's

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Speaker 1: another thing to know the intimate details of your coordinators,

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Speaker 1: their background and why they suck. And Matt Canada is

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Speaker 1: not alone. There are multiple Canada's in the NFL and

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Speaker 1: in college football that that fan base can't stand. Can

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Speaker 1: you imagine and any other at like a hockey arena

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Speaker 1: throughout the country, anyone channing fire the pitching coach for

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Speaker 1: the Yankees like that, that would never happen. But in football,

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Speaker 1: the coordinators are so powerful and they become so famous,

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Speaker 1: and they become When you're the coordinator of the offense

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Speaker 1: and your head coach is Mike Tomlin, you're not really

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Speaker 1: blaming Mike Tomlin. He has nothing to do with the offense.

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Speaker 1: And here's the other thing. I would say, a lot

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Speaker 1: of people in the media in a weird way don't

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Speaker 1: like fans. You know, they view themselves as above the fans,

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Speaker 1: and I have always hated that like And one thing

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Speaker 1: we try to do on this show is represent the fan,

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Speaker 1: just represent the normal guy. I haven't sat in the

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Speaker 1: media room in a long long time because I think fans,

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Speaker 1: especially of places that are successful, like a Steeler fan,

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Speaker 1: when they're yelling at and listen. I'm not saying that

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Speaker 1: some fans can't have crazy talk. I mean with the

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers, people wanted Trey Lance to start and

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Speaker 1: brock Perty to get benched in August of this year.

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Speaker 1: So people can say crazy things, but that's part of

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Speaker 1: being fan right short for fanatic. But for the most part,

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Speaker 1: I think universal fan bases understand what it's supposed to

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Speaker 1: look like. Like if you're a Packer fan right now

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Speaker 1: and you're fifty years old, like, you know what good

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Speaker 1: football looks like. You know, a good quarterback play looks like.

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Speaker 1: You know, a good offense looks like. Actually, I got

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Speaker 1: a pretty good guy idea, even though your defense hasn't

555
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Speaker 1: been great for a while, what good defense defensive football is.

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Speaker 1: So if you're pissing your team, like you kind of

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Speaker 1: have a right, like you kind of under you kind

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Speaker 1: of get it. Like if you're a Bama fan, you go, god,

559
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: this something looks off. Kind of know what you're looking at.

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Speaker 1: And one thing, if you're a Steeler fan and you're

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Speaker 1: my age, it's like, well, I lived through Todd Haley,

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Speaker 1: who listens, we can nitpick them all we want, but

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Speaker 1: his offenses were pretty explosive, and before that we had

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Speaker 1: Bruce Arians last night checked the owners got mad that

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Speaker 1: he didn't run the ball enough, but we were fucking

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Speaker 1: pretty explosive. So what Matt Canada is doing ain't working.

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Speaker 1: Pretty generic and ultimately we can nitpick the play calls

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Speaker 1: all you want. This is a production based business. It's

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Speaker 1: very black and white. Either score points or you don't.

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Speaker 1: Either win or you lose. And when you're the offensive coordinator,

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Speaker 1: your offense is explosive and it's putting touchdowns on the

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Speaker 1: board or it's not. And if you watch the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: it simply is not doing that. Now I will defend

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Speaker 1: them like I And part of it is if the

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Speaker 1: owner or the head coach is mandating that you play

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Speaker 1: a certain player, then that's not on you and old

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00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,959
Speaker 1: only people inside the building know, right, So if they

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Speaker 1: are mandating that you play Najie Harris, that's not on

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Speaker 1: Matt Canada. I'm not saying they are, but I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: play that guy because if it is, you have the

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Speaker 1: power and the jews to play who you want to play.

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Speaker 1: Stop playing that guy. He's not good enough, especially given

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Speaker 1: your situation. Who is Pickens, get him the ball. Now

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Speaker 1: you get Deontay Johnson back off injury. We'll see if

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Speaker 1: he comes back this week. Within the next couple of weeks,

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Speaker 1: like you have really explosive playmakers. Now your quarterback is limited.

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Speaker 1: But I was I'm saying the same thing about Jordan

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Speaker 1: Love the other night. Get him on the move. Stop

589
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Speaker 1: asking him to play like Peyton Manning. He'd stop asking

590
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: him to play like Tom Brady. He is very athletic.

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00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 1: Get him on the move, turn the field into half

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Speaker 1: and give him two reads and if not, run and

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00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,240
Speaker 1: get out of bounds or slide right. So you can

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Speaker 1: simplify stuff and actually improve. But the fans are not happy,

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00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: and I don't blame them because their talents, and we've

596
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: talked about this before, they're lucky. It's good enough that

597
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 1: at any moment their defense can score multiple touchdowns. That

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Speaker 1: ain't normal. That's kind of what's happening in Dallas. When

599
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: they've been blowing people out. It's like their defensive special

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Speaker 1: team are scoring points. It's not like their quarterbacks throwing

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Speaker 1: four touchdowns a game. So I love that the fans

602
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: or this in this or this into it. I love

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Speaker 1: that the fans know this much. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: of respect for big fan bases of the right teams.

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Speaker 1: This one thing to be a cowboy fan like this

606
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Speaker 1: our year win the Super Bowl, Like, no, you're not.

607
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 1: It's another thing to be a Steeler fan and be like,

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Speaker 1: what the fuck's going on with their offense? This is embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of the times, and I'll

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Speaker 1: get into this in a minute, Lincoln Riley is the

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Speaker 1: and I understand it because I'm like this, right, when

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Speaker 1: your girlfriend, when your wife, when your parents tell you something,

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Speaker 1: it's easy to get defensive, right, even when you know

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Speaker 1: they're right, Like bullshit, that's not right. Stop saying that

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00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: and get defensive. And I think when you see some

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Speaker 1: of these head coaches defend a coordinator unless they're friends

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Speaker 1: with them. They like the guy, they know how hard

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00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: the guy's working out. I was texted with a buddy

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Speaker 1: the other night. I don't think the average fan this

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Speaker 1: guy works in the NFL can even fathom how many

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Speaker 1: hours these coaches work. I mean, I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: there at the butt crack of dawn five five thirty am,

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Speaker 1: and most of them aren't leaving until close to midnight Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday,

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Speaker 1: and some hit or miss Thursday. But that is three

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Speaker 1: straight weeks, and that includes traveling on the weekends. Obviously

626
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Speaker 1: play on Sunday. These are long ass days game planning

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Speaker 1: and preparing early in the week. It's crazy. And it's

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Speaker 1: one thing if you're Belichick with Brady and you're winning.

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Speaker 1: It's one thing when you're Andy Reid and these guys

630
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: put in insane hours. But when you're winning, Belichick, now

631
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Speaker 1: it's like, what are you spending all this time? Like

632
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Speaker 1: you could sleep in the office. Bill Mack's not gonna

633
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Speaker 1: throw any more touchdowns. Andy does it because he's winning,

634
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Speaker 1: like it's all he knows, but he goes it's worth

635
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: it like this. It's equating to super Bowl bursts, AFC championships,

636
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: super Bowl rings. That's what Bill would always say. Well, shit,

637
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 1: I was, We're going to super Bowl every other year

638
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: and we're winning seventy five percent of them. I can't

639
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Speaker 1: imagine being like Joe Judge or Pat Schrmer. It's like

640
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: all night long, grinding in the office to get your

641
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: fucking ass kicked on Sunday. Shoot me right now, like

642
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: bro go home in six It ain't gonna change anything,

643
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get fired. So when you I bet

644
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:55,719
Speaker 1: Tomlin sees mat Canada putting in these crazy long hours

645
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: and the same thing happens over and over and over

646
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: on Sunday. It would drive me nuts. It's one thing

647
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: like I bet Sean Payton's putting in crazy hours, but

648
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: I think he'd justified it, like it's my first year.

649
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: I'm setting the tone even though it ain't equating to anything.

650
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: But that's just the way these guys are wired. My

651
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 1: ultimate point is, I don't care what industry you work

652
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,400
Speaker 1: in football coaches. I'm not saying it's right. I'm not

653
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: saying a lot of it even makes sense. But the

654
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: hours they work, it's why you hear so many players

655
00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: go that would never be a coach. That's crazy. Some

656
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: of them end up doing it because they miss football

657
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:32,759
Speaker 1: and then they just get back in the mix and

658
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 1: they lose touch with how they once said they would

659
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: never do it. But the hours are crazy, and Matt Canada,

660
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,720
Speaker 1: I'm sure works long hours. It's not equating to anything,

661
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: and the only time that they really score is when TJ.

662
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: Watt high Smith or MIKEA. Fitzpatrick makes a play or

663
00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Katie Pikett just throws a bomb to George Pickens. So

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Speaker 1: of the greatest all time lines. I heard Oklahoma put

688
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: out a video. Remember a couple of weeks ago, Oregon

689
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:33,319
Speaker 1: put up the video after they beat Colorado and it

690
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: went pretty viral and it was cool. I think Oklahoma

691
00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: put out an even better video of them beating Texas

692
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 1: of just integrating all the you know, pregame hype the

693
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 1: week hiphe to the game hype and one of their

694
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,880
Speaker 1: I think their star team captain linebacker gave a line

695
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: that said at Oklahoma we fear God and at Texas

696
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: they fear Oklahoma. And I saw the kid on with

697
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee said he kind of made it up on

698
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:04,800
Speaker 1: the spot, just as fantastic. Highly recommend going to Oklahoma

699
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 1: football social media channels. Watching that eight minute videos just

700
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: truly good if you're a football nerd. But speaking of Oklahoma,

701
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 1: I saw Lincoln Riley. He got asked the other day

702
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: about his defensive coordinator, and like the Tomlin with Mack Canada,

703
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,320
Speaker 1: got very defensive and he basically crushed the media for saying,

704
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: you guys have been waiting for a defense to play bad,

705
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: to blame Alex the defensive coordinator Grinch. It's like, no, Lincoln,

706
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 1: we just watched your defense and he's terrible. Like he's not.

707
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: Your defense is getting worse. You and Caleb are good.

708
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 1: You can score a lot of points. No one's ever

709
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,319
Speaker 1: argued that Caleb will go, You'll land another quarterback and

710
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 1: you'll keep scoring points. But you were brought here for

711
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million dollars and they bought your

712
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: mansion in Oklahoma that no one in Norman, Oklahoma would

713
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: have purchased. And they ask you what was the price,

714
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,480
Speaker 1: and you said four million dollars and they said, we'll

715
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: pay five hundred thousand dollars over that for you to

716
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: compete and ultimately win national championships at USC fight on.

717
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: That's the goal. They want Pete Carroll again but in

718
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,280
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, and they viewed you as that guy.

719
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: And one thing Pete always valued was everything. He cared

720
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 1: about linebackers, just like he cared about running backs. He

721
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 1: cared about right guards, just like he cared about cornerbacks.

722
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 1: He cared about the entire team. And I think when

723
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: I watched Lincoln Riley and listen I've heard some things

724
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: through scouts and people that have been through there. Lincoln

725
00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: is obsessed with the quarterback in the offense, which most

726
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,360
Speaker 1: offensive coaches are Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan, Sean McVay, the difference,

727
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 1: even Sean Payton. In those guys, they care deeply about defense,

728
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: and they will allocate resources on the defensive side of

729
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,800
Speaker 1: the football, and if they don't have a great idea

730
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 1: for who to land, they will use their GM or

731
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,400
Speaker 1: their personnel people to help them. I don't think Lincoln

732
00:38:56,440 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: really cares. I truly do not believe that when USC

733
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: in their heyday was kicking everyone's ass in the country,

734
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: they were a complete team and the only way to

735
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,839
Speaker 1: win and compete to win national championships in twenty twenty three,

736
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,279
Speaker 1: just like it was in two thousand and four, you

737
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: have to be good on both sides of the ball.

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00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't care if you could score points. You have

739
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: to be able to stop people, and I don't think

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00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: Lincoln truly believes that. The other thing is I think

741
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: he's too good of friends with his defensive coordinator because

742
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: he likes the guy a lot. There's nothing wrong with that.

743
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: The problem is in the business of football. When you

744
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: are such good friends with the coordinator and you're the

745
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,120
Speaker 1: head coach and that guy is on the opposite side

746
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 1: of the ball that you are and it's not working,

747
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: you got major problems because ultimately you're gonna have to

748
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: fire the guy. And for Lincoln to act like it's

749
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 1: no big deal to me is a little concerning because Lincoln, like, listen,

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00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: I want you a C to be good. I want

751
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 1: you to be good. But when I watch you say that,

752
00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 1: and most importantly, I watch your team and you get

753
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: shredded on a weekly basis. It's one thing to play

754
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: or to Washington and give up forty points Arizona with

755
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 1: their backup quarterback, a guy. Honestly, I'd never even heard

756
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,720
Speaker 1: of Trafida fucking light you up like he's Peyton Manning

757
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: Jetfish smoking you on Saturday night at home, like you're

758
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: not being paid one hundred and twenty million dollars for that.

759
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 1: It's like Brian Kelly, Brian, you're not allowed to lose

760
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: Old miss. You're not allowed to lose Old Miss. He

761
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: ended up beating Missouri, but at one point in time

762
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 1: in that game, it looked like he was gonna lose

763
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,399
Speaker 1: the Missouri. You're not allowed to lose that game. You're

764
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 1: not allowed to You're allowed to lose to Alabama, just

765
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: like if you're a usc you're allowed to lose to Oregon.

766
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: You can't play this closely to Arizona. It's not okay,

767
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: not at that price point, not for that much money.

768
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: And the money is a huge factor in all this shit.

769
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: And speaking of money, Mark Stoops, Bob's brother, made a

770
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: comment that basically after he got his ass kicked by Georgia,

771
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: that they bought a lot of good players and of

772
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: course everyone, you know, everyone came out of the woodwork

773
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: that have crazy takes. And I've said it forever before Nil,

774
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 1: I thought a lot of the media, especially for like

775
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 1: the j Billises of the world, were very disingenuous when

776
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: they talked about players being paid, especially in basketball, Like

777
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:17,320
Speaker 1: college basketball has always paid players under the table straight

778
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: cash homie for my entire life, and well before I

779
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: was born. Hell, John Wooden's team were doing it in

780
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: the sixties and seventies, let alone Mark Stoops School, Kentucky

781
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: has the biggest payroll in the country well before Nil.

782
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: And one thing I've been told through the grapevine is

783
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: there's this thing called dark money. Because now that nil.

784
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: If I give a kid one hundred and fifty thousand dollars,

785
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: he's getting tax on that money. And if he plays

786
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 1: at USC, if he plays at Penn State, he is

787
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: paying federal and state income tax. So if I give

788
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 1: you one hundred and fifty grand, you're gonna pay sixty

789
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: five seventy thousand dollars in taxes. Right, But this thing

790
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 1: called dark money goes. Hey, listen, school ex is offering you,

791
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 1: you know, two hundred grand. How about this, We'll give

792
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: you one hundred thousand dollars nil deal, and we'll give

793
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,919
Speaker 1: you seventy thousand dollars under the table, so you won't

794
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: have to pay a diamond tax. So you get tax

795
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: on one hundred and then I'll give you another seventy grand,

796
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,680
Speaker 1: just in you know, not necessarily in brown bags, but

797
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 1: that way. And that's going on at all the big institutions.

798
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: It's why all these coaches are so pissed off, because

799
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: they're like, listen, it's not even just straight nil money.

800
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: It's nil money mixed with this dark money. A bunch

801
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,359
Speaker 1: of shady shit's happening. It's pretty clear it's not hard

802
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: to figure out who's doing the shadiest shit. Just look

803
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: at the top programs, and I've said forever I have

804
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: no problem with any of it. I'd pay to play

805
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 1: is a huge part of most industries. Welcome to the

806
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: real world. But this notion now that everything's above board

807
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: and all the media or like getting in some big

808
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,480
Speaker 1: circle jerk like great for the players, it is still

809
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: like it's it's just very bizarre. A lot have like

810
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 1: political undertones, right, it's weird, but it is not by

811
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: any means fixed. And most of the top programs aren't

812
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: just paying. Like listen, if you're Shador Sanders or Caleb

813
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: Williams or Drake may or whatever and making millions of

814
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: dollars above board, who cares about the taxes? You're making

815
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: so much money. But if I'm getting a hundred grand, like,

816
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: I'm actually not getting one hundred thousand dollars right, And

817
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: before those type players would have got cash that was

818
00:43:29,440 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 1: untaxed on top of a car, and then everyone was

819
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: pushing for this, which is good for the high hide

820
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: like top one or two percent, but the majority guys

821
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: that also would have been paid, they actually might have

822
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 1: got more money and had less headaches. So this situation

823
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 1: right now and listen, George is always gonna have better

824
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: players than Kentucky. Is not just like the most seamless

825
00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: operation that everyone acts. When these coaches complain, they're complaining

826
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,440
Speaker 1: about stuff that technically they're not gonna come out and

827
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,640
Speaker 1: say just because they're just not. It's just a fact,

828
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: just like they never did back in the day when

829
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 1: everyone was getting money under the table. But from what

830
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: I've been told, and I know all these people that

831
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 1: go into these schools, crazy shit is going on right now,

832
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: and it's not just in ten ninety nine payments. I

833
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 1: promise you that Caro, let's dive into little mailbag at

834
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 1: John middlecoff is the Instagram, Fire into those dms and

835
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 1: get your question answered on the show question for the pod.

836
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: I moved to Charlotte a little over a year ago,

837
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: and I had the opportunity to see the disaster that

838
00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 1: has been the Panthers organization firsthand. I wanted to defriend

839
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 1: Frank a little, as the sense amongst local media and

840
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,839
Speaker 1: fans is that he's being handcuffed by ownership meddling and

841
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,760
Speaker 1: coaching and personnel decisions. For example, there is a video

842
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: making the rounds online of the Panthers owing owner saying

843
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: he preferred Bryce in the draft and that the team

844
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 1: didn't necessarily need top tier wide receiver talent because Bryce

845
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 1: was a good distributor and like a point guard. Just

846
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 1: some thoughts on the situation, as I don't think Reich

847
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: is fully to blame. Well, I think David Tepper's ownership

848
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: is a disaster currently. And I saw another clip go

849
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 1: viral of Josh McCown, the former quarterback who's now the

850
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 1: quarterback coach because he was the backup when Frank was

851
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,879
Speaker 1: the OC and Philly so they know each other, so

852
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 1: he's got a good staff. Josh McCown high level guy.

853
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 1: Douce Staley's running back coach. They went to CJ. Stroud's

854
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: pro day and they were like hugging, and I might

855
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 1: screw up the exact conversation, but it was something like, hey, man,

856
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: next time you come, it might be full time, and

857
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: it was like Josh saying like, hey, we got to

858
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: find you a place to live again. Might be screwing

859
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,280
Speaker 1: that up. I forget the exact verbiage, but I remember

860
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: at the time when that video clip went viral before

861
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: the draft, people thought like got CJ. Stroud to Carolina,

862
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of people when that video,

863
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 1: you know, is making its rounds this week is going, oh,

864
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 1: Dave Tepper forced them to take the other guy. And

865
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: Frank had a comment that I saw on my Twitter

866
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 1: timeline within the last week. It might have been even

867
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: on Monday, talking about the ownership and how his owner's very,

868
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: very involved, and I think he's had back to you know,

869
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: he's with the Colts. Their owner was involved too. But

870
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: I think when you look at David Tepper, I think

871
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: Jim Mersy just wants to win, but he's not telling you,

872
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 1: like who to pick. I think Dave Tepper thinks he

873
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: knows football and is telling you who to draft. And

874
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: if that is true, then yeah, it's a disaster. It's

875
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: a major, major problem and they're going to have serious

876
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,279
Speaker 1: issues because Frank's not good enough to overcome that. And

877
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: if Bryce the wrong pick and the owner forced him

878
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: to pick it, I would leak something out if I

879
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,200
Speaker 1: was Frank, because he's ultimately and get fired very fast.

880
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 1: So I think there is no disputing that if the

881
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:08,680
Speaker 1: owner has his hands in everything, which it feels like

882
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: he does, they're screwed. They're really screwed. My man. I'll

883
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: be the first to be critical of Lamar when he

884
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: doesn't play good. And he made a terrible throw in

885
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: the red zone for an I in t But I

886
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 1: feel like you got to at least bring up the

887
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 1: drop passes. Eight of them, three were touchdowns. Not much

888
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: he can do. Agree, You're right, I was going off

889
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: the interception that I was very critical of him. I

890
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: saw a couple of people, you know, CBS Football, and

891
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: a bunch of people tweeting and instagramming all the drops. Listen,

892
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,000
Speaker 1: you have a drop, you hit a guy in the hands.

893
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:45,479
Speaker 1: It's in the NFL. That's not on the quarterback, can't

894
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,719
Speaker 1: turn over the ball. But I hear you like drop

895
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. Drop first down passes are not on the

896
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: quarterback by any means. And I was saying, this is

897
00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 1: someone who bet on the Steelers, So I mean, I'm

898
00:47:56,239 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: glad that it happened. Belichick to the Bears. If Kraft

899
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: gets rid of them, this is something Chicago would probably do,

900
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't they I don't think they would. I just think

901
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: they are too cheap, So I can't imagine what Belichick's

902
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: not working for eight million dollars, and the Bears like

903
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers like having a chief coach because the difference

904
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,359
Speaker 1: between a seven million dollar coach and a sixteen million

905
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: dollar coach is nine million dollars for the owner a year.

906
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 1: I mean, that's his private jet, that's his extra house.

907
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: Sounds crazy, but that's a fact. And I think once

908
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,239
Speaker 1: you're rich, being cheap is a disease. And I think

909
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,879
Speaker 1: the Bears have it. I think the Chargers have it.

910
00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: It's hard to fake it, it really is. You know,

911
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: Stan Kronki does not give a shit. He'll pay what

912
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,439
Speaker 1: the SEC schools will pay what they got to pay

913
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: because winning and when you win, you get money. In

914
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 1: the NFL. You don't have to win to get rich,

915
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: you do not. Look at the Chargers, look at the Bears.

916
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: Neither are winning. They're printing money and they could make

917
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: The Bears could make more once they get a new stadium.

918
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:09,440
Speaker 1: So I think it would be cool, especially if they

919
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: got the number one and number two pick. But I

920
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: just don't think they would pay him. Question for the bag.

921
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 1: I love how you closed out Monday's pod, questioning the

922
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: Panthers move to hire Frank to be the head coach

923
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: and trade up for Bryce Young. But I think we

924
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: need to take a step further back and look at

925
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 1: Temper as an owner, since he bought the team in

926
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: eighteen for straight cash. As you like to point out.

927
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: I like to point it out just because you know,

928
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: let's say you bought a new suburban, which are not cheap,

929
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: and let's say let's just pick an even number, one

930
00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: hundred grand, Like I paid cash for this. You know,

931
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: interest rates were a little high. I had a bunch

932
00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:44,879
Speaker 1: of cash. I just paid cash for the suburban. Now,

933
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 1: some people might say, why would you ever do that.

934
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: Let's just hypothetically said you did, Like, damn, dude, paid

935
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: cash for a suburban. Hell, I'm sure some people know

936
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 1: whether you did it. You know people that did it.

937
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: Maybe someone in your neighborhood did it. If you're in

938
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: real estate, a real estate agent, you've seen clients do this,

939
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: pay cash for a home. It's like, damn, this guy

940
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: just bought I see it all the time in Arizona.

941
00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 1: This house just sold for one point four million dollars cash.

942
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,600
Speaker 1: It happens in the barry all the time, Like cheeks,

943
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: just keep that much cash on you. But Tepper bought

944
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: an NFL team and paid cash, all cash like that.

945
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: That's to me one of the most incredible accomplishments in

946
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: the history of the world. If you can buy an

947
00:50:25,560 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: NFL team with cash, nothing but respect. But the team

948
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: has been mediocre. They have been straight up bat. Oh,

949
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,320
Speaker 1: they haven't been mediocre, They've been straight up bat. Twenty

950
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,719
Speaker 1: nine and fifty seven, Tepper had has allowed the front

951
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,799
Speaker 1: office to trade away star players McCaffrey and DJ Bore.

952
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:44,920
Speaker 1: Those guys are pretty good. Yes, they traded away the

953
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:47,960
Speaker 1: potential number one pick in twenty four and he pulled

954
00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: the plug in a brand new football operations facility for

955
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: the team. I'm concerned Tepper will move the team before

956
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 1: he ever sells. What's your take on Tepper's ownership. The

957
00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: thing with moving the tu part of Saint Louis moving

958
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: to LA. It's like, yes, Saint Louis, LA is a

959
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 1: no brainer. Oakland's a dump and they moved it to Vegas,

960
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:13,399
Speaker 1: no brainer. Like, where are you moving from Charlotte? That's

961
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: a no brainer. That's my question. Part of moving is

962
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:21,000
Speaker 1: like a huge upgrade in cities. Charlotte's kind of like

963
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: a big time growing city. It's not like Nashville needs

964
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: a team. Think of all the booming cities right now

965
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: in my backyard Arizona, they don't need a team. So

966
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 1: like all these areas that are booming, none of them need.

967
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,839
Speaker 1: Charlotte is a booming area, Like I, that's a good

968
00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,920
Speaker 1: area to be in. I think it's more about that

969
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,520
Speaker 1: he just might not know what he's doing. And I

970
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 1: also think there's a human element to it. When you're

971
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: Dave Tepper and you aren't just as rich as him,

972
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 1: but you're as successful as him. Who is telling you, like, hey, David,

973
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: this is not a great idea. And maybe he had

974
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 1: some of those in business, like let's not buy this business,

975
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 1: let's not invest in this stock. And maybe he had confidants,

976
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: maybe he had a CFO, a COO, some people that

977
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: he relied on who's telling him in football what to

978
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 1: do and what not to do. And in fairness, if

979
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: you and I were in that position, we'd probably think

980
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: we knew everything too. And this is what I get

981
00:52:14,040 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: back to with the Bears and the Chargers being cheap.

982
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 1: He can fail, he can suck this year, they could

983
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 1: go oh to seventeen. He will get the same amount

984
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,800
Speaker 1: of money from the League office as the San Fransco

985
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: forty nine ers in the Philadelphia Eagles. There's not any

986
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: other many other industries where you can completely fail as

987
00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: a business, lose games, suck, and still make as much

988
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 1: money as the team who's having the most success in

989
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: your industry. Now, those teams might make more in sweet

990
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,920
Speaker 1: sales and everything, but I'm just saying the three hundred

991
00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: and eighty million dollars the league will give him on

992
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: the media right steals the same thing was payroll for

993
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: the players is two hundred million dollars, So he's up

994
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: almost two hundred million dollars in positive. You know, in

995
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: the green, it's impossible for him to go in the red.

996
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: So until you go into the red, in most industries

997
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: like you don't really need to be introspective and go

998
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: what do I need to change? In the NFL, you

999
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: never have to do that question for the POD. Would

1000
00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 1: you say that Tyreek is being used more effectively in

1001
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 1: Miami than he was in Kansas City? Could McDaniel be

1002
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: the best offensive mind in the league. Well, let me

1003
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,600
Speaker 1: just bring up because that's a pretty bold thing to say.

1004
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: I would say. Let me just type in Tyreek Hill.

1005
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:39,240
Speaker 1: Let's bring up his stats because in my opinion, Kansas

1006
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: City is pretty good. So he had his last year,

1007
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:47,800
Speaker 1: for example, he was elite last year, seventeen games, didn't

1008
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: miss a game, had one hundred and nineteen catches, seventeen

1009
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 1: hundred yards, seven touchdowns. His previous year with the Chiefs,

1010
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: he had one hundred and eleven catches, twelve hundred yards

1011
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: and more touchdowns in two thousand eight years. This in

1012
00:54:05,719 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one twenty he had eighty seven catches, but

1013
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: he had fifteen touchdowns. In twenty eighteen he had eighty

1014
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: seven catches in twelve touchdowns, so he had less catches.

1015
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: You have to remember also they have Travis Kelcey and

1016
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: they also had heard I mean, they had other receivers,

1017
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 1: So I it might be a little sexier behind the

1018
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, but I think we'd be quick to

1019
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: forget how incredible him and Mahomes were. I mean, he's

1020
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 1: just a couple of years removed from fifteen touchdowns with

1021
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: Mahomes and mahomes first year as a starter he had

1022
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: twelve touchdowns. Mahomes first year as starter was eighteen nineteen

1023
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one twenty. Yeah, so I hear what you're saying.

1024
00:54:49,719 --> 00:54:54,719
Speaker 1: And it's it's fun. But I don't think it's that different. Hey, John,

1025
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: big fan from Australia. As a Denver fan, I saw

1026
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: that we released Randy Gregory earlier week after signing him

1027
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 1: to a large deal. He was actually traded, but you

1028
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: guys were gonna cut him. A lot of times when

1029
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: you leak you're gonna cut someone, you're basically just throwing

1030
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:11,120
Speaker 1: out there, Hey, give us a seventh round pick and

1031
00:55:11,160 --> 00:55:14,279
Speaker 1: we'll trade him to you. My question is this surrounding

1032
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 1: the cut of a recently signed player to a hefty contract.

1033
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 1: How do the finances work? Does he just get paid

1034
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,000
Speaker 1: out the remainder of the season as he was on

1035
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 1: the active roster, and then the owner rights a check

1036
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: for whatever guaranteed was negotiated. Is it paid in a

1037
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: lump sum or in installments? Well, I'm not gonna I'm

1038
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:32,400
Speaker 1: not gonna waste time and pull up his contract, but

1039
00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,279
Speaker 1: let's just say they gave him twenty million dollars in

1040
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 1: guaranteed money and twelve of that was a signing bonus

1041
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: the moment he signed his contract. He got twelve million

1042
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: dollars within a two week span. So the guaranteed money

1043
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: usually gets paid out within a calendar year. You know,

1044
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,799
Speaker 1: the bigger contracts, like one hundred million dollar contracts over

1045
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: a couple year period, but that team pays all that money,

1046
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: especially the signing bonus, and then it gets prorated on

1047
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: the salary cap. So the forty nine ers take back

1048
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 1: his active just whatever his salary is. But depending on

1049
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: the structure of the contract, more than likely they won't

1050
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: have to pay much guaranteed money. And I essentially I

1051
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: saw a couple of days ago that they they owe

1052
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 1: them less than a million dollars. So the Broncos they're

1053
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: on the hook for the money. I mean, hell, they

1054
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: paid it out already. It's already gone, it's already been

1055
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: paid for. So that's the biggest difference in the NFL

1056
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: than like baseball and basketball contracts, where Randy Gregory would

1057
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: be much more difficult to trade. And again I don't

1058
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,800
Speaker 1: know his contract in front of me, but let's just

1059
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: say he was a fifteen million dollar player. Let's just

1060
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: say they signed him to a four year sixty million

1061
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,080
Speaker 1: dollars and he had played a year and a half

1062
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 1: on fifteen so he had made like twenty five million dollars.

1063
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: The Niners would be on the hook for the remaining

1064
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: thirty five and then he would be untradeable. But that's

1065
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,759
Speaker 1: not the case because the guaranteed money's out and they

1066
00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 1: can cut him after the year. Hell, they cut him

1067
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,840
Speaker 1: in a week if they don't like him. So it

1068
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 1: becomes easier because typically the team unloading the guy with

1069
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 1: the hefty contract ie Randy Gregory, eats all the money,

1070
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 1: and that's what happened here. So the forty nine ers

1071
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 1: basically just owe him a pro rated version of nine

1072
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars and if he acts like an idiot

1073
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,320
Speaker 1: or they don't like him, they can cut him whenever

1074
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 1: they want. They owe him no money. What do you

1075
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 1: think the Dolphins defense will look like when Jalen comes back.

1076
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: They need to be able to play better because the

1077
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: offense is better when it has a lead. The Dolphins

1078
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: really play well one kind of way on offense, and

1079
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: the defense needs to compliment them better. Well, I think

1080
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 1: here's the problem. Obviously, Jalen would really help because Jalen

1081
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 1: he actually wasn't that good last year, but he's a

1082
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: big improvement for them, and let's just say he's still

1083
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:49,880
Speaker 1: If he was healthy, this year would have been a

1084
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,959
Speaker 1: top five corner. If you have a top five corner,

1085
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: it helps your defense. To me, when I think Vic Fangio,

1086
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,560
Speaker 1: I think a fantastic front seven, Like that's what he

1087
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: had his one year when they are sweet in Chicago

1088
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: with Khalil Mack. That's what he had with the forty

1089
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:06,840
Speaker 1: nine ers. When Vic Fango has a fantastic front seven,

1090
00:58:06,920 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 1: he actually doesn't need great dbs. You watch the Dolphins

1091
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: like they're not that good up front. You know, they

1092
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 1: traded a first round pick for Bradley Chubb, and let's

1093
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: face at Bradley Chubb, it's not like a Pro Bowl

1094
00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 1: level guy. And I'd be lying if I've like broke

1095
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:22,600
Speaker 1: down every one of the snaps. But I wouldn't call

1096
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: Bradley Chubb an impact player given what they're paying him.

1097
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: Slash gave up to get him. So I think that's

1098
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: the bigger problem. And if you're not good upfront, as

1099
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,200
Speaker 1: it gets colder and you got to go on the road,

1100
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 1: and if they're not the number one seed, it's very,

1101
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:40,439
Speaker 1: very difficult to win. Because even though what's his name,

1102
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: A Chan the rookie went on into reserve today, their

1103
00:58:43,360 --> 00:58:46,320
Speaker 1: running game is gonna be fine and you can the

1104
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: thing with Tyreek like they can get him the ball,

1105
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: they can throw wide receiver screens, they get him the

1106
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:53,959
Speaker 1: ball on end rounds. A guy like Tyreek, I don't

1107
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: just need to pass it to you. I can get

1108
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,960
Speaker 1: you with slants. I can get you the ball within

1109
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: five yards of the line of scrimmage and you can

1110
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: take it fifty. So you're right. The offense, I just

1111
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,880
Speaker 1: don't think their defense is personnel is going to be

1112
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: good enough. And I don't care what Vic Fangio does.

1113
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: I just don't know if what else he can do.

1114
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: Mail back question. It never seems to work out for

1115
00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: the Broncos ever since Super Bowl last year, the defense

1116
00:59:16,280 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: was awesome and the offense, especially Russ, was awful. This year,

1117
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Russ actually has been pretty solid while the defense is awful.

1118
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,000
Speaker 1: If the Broncos continue to lose and have a high

1119
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 1: draft pick, would you try to get out from Russ

1120
00:59:28,600 --> 00:59:31,200
Speaker 1: and draft one of these quarterbacks or would you draft

1121
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:33,360
Speaker 1: some help in a different area and run it back

1122
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: with Russ. If Sean Payton, who let's face it, as

1123
00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: the Grand Pooh Bah of Denver now he's in full control,

1124
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: was the guy that traded for Russell Wilson, I would

1125
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: say that's what they would do. He would write it

1126
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: out and try to fix them. But because he now

1127
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: he signed up for this, but he's not like emotionally

1128
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,120
Speaker 1: invested in the trade, because that's already watered the bridge,

1129
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: like spilled milk. It happened. He's gonna worry about what's

1130
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: best for the next five years. And let's say they

1131
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: Let's say they lose Thursday Night. Hypothetically they go four

1132
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: and thirteen and they're drafting second overall. If I had

1133
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 1: to put a pie chart, if Caleb goes one, ninety

1134
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 1: five percent chance he takes Drake May and five percent

1135
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,919
Speaker 1: chance he takes you know, left tackle. Whoever the best

1136
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 1: pass rusher is the best wide receiver, I would guess

1137
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: they draft a quarterback. You being a former scout, seeing

1138
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,280
Speaker 1: all the footage from the Chiefs receiver Justin Ross in

1139
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,760
Speaker 1: the preseason, why is he not getting any catches when

1140
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: the whole Chiefs receiving corps has been looking mediocre at

1141
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:43,840
Speaker 1: best this season. Because the preseason and the regular season

1142
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: don't really parallel each other in the sense of in

1143
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: the preseason, I'm just running. Let's just pick a number.

1144
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: The twenty five plays that we've implemented with the twos

1145
01:00:56,000 --> 01:00:58,640
Speaker 1: and the threes throughout training camp that we run well,

1146
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: and we just run them over and over again, maybe

1147
01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 1: fifty plays whatever. But also I'm doing it up against

1148
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:12,040
Speaker 1: just generic defensive calls cover two, cover three, cover zero. Right,

1149
01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: We're just getting very very just generic calls on a

1150
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: play in play basis. In the regular season, we're taking

1151
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: the entire playbook with Andy would be a ton of plays,

1152
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: and then we're adding variations to those plays that are

1153
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: our core plays to the game plan based on what

1154
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 1: they're running. So it's a very complicated formula. I'll never

1155
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: forget Coach Reid telling me one time about Tyreek. He's like,

1156
01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:42,439
Speaker 1: you know, the most underrated part about him is how

1157
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: football smart he is. He's like, I can tell him

1158
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 1: something one time on a you know, depending on who

1159
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: we're playing, and he gets it immediately. His football intelligence

1160
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,920
Speaker 1: is elite, like part of most great players offensively Tyreek,

1161
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce, Demonte Adams, Christian McCaffrey. These guys football like

1162
01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,720
Speaker 1: you is like Peyton Manning or Tom Brady, but we

1163
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,160
Speaker 1: never really talk about, you know, skill guys like that,

1164
01:02:10,240 --> 01:02:13,640
Speaker 1: but they have to have the ability, like, hey, this

1165
01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 1: coverage is actually zoned. This guy's off. Remember on Wednesday

1166
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,600
Speaker 1: when we talked, if we get this look with this play,

1167
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: instead of running a go route, you're gonna run a hitch,

1168
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: or you're gonna run a five yard out, or you're

1169
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,480
Speaker 1: gonna come in motion. When he looks at you. You know,

1170
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 1: it's fucking complicated. So, for example, justin Ross, maybe it's

1171
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: too much for him and I'm just taking an educated guess,

1172
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 1: but he's not alone. Maybe he's not good against press coverage.

1173
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not good against press coverage. Slash the offense

1174
01:02:43,280 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 1: is kind of overwhelming. As they've started game planning, I

1175
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: was texting someone like, why doesn't Hyatt with the Giants

1176
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: play more. They're like, well, he can't get out. If

1177
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: you put a guy in front of him, he can't

1178
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: get around him, can't do anything on press. So it's like, yeah,

1179
01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: I mean in theory, he can run really fast, but

1180
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:03,600
Speaker 1: it's more complicated than that. Now, if you're not playing

1181
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: for this verson Andy Reid, like, my educated guess is

1182
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: you're having trouble taking what they're coaching in the meeting

1183
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: room to the practice field. If you can't do it,

1184
01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,080
Speaker 1: on the practice field. Like I've heard deonce say this,

1185
01:03:16,680 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 1: like if we do something in the meeting and then

1186
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 1: we try to run in the practice and you can't

1187
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: do it, how can I? If you can't do it there,

1188
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: how am I going to trust you to do it

1189
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 1: on Saturday? How can I trust you to do it

1190
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 1: on Sunday? Like one bad play, you run the wrong route,

1191
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: the dB sitting there, we throw a pick and we

1192
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: fucking lose, Like the margin Ferrera in these games, especially

1193
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,840
Speaker 1: in the NFL. College is a little bit bigger, but

1194
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,800
Speaker 1: the NFL is very very small. Have you ever scouted

1195
01:03:42,840 --> 01:03:44,919
Speaker 1: a player that you that you really liked but didn't

1196
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,280
Speaker 1: necessarily have the stats or film to back it up,

1197
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: just a hunter feeling that a player could be great.

1198
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: If so, how hard is to sell that perspective of

1199
01:03:53,080 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 1: a player to the GM and coaches. I often wonder

1200
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: how many players miss out purely down circumstances at a

1201
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: school or a team. Well, I only did the road

1202
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,880
Speaker 1: for one year. So if you talk to some of

1203
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: my friends who have been scouting, like on the road

1204
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:12,440
Speaker 1: for a decade two decades, you become very close to

1205
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: the school, especially if you have an area to the

1206
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:18,960
Speaker 1: players that you scout. Right, it's one thing for example

1207
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,560
Speaker 1: this year, like everyone's going to have an opinion on

1208
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,480
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison Junior, or everyone's going to have an opinion

1209
01:04:24,560 --> 01:04:28,959
Speaker 1: on you know, Bo Nicks or whatever, but they're gonna

1210
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: be the random guard at Boston College who's probably like

1211
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: a six round guy. For whatever reason, you love his toughness,

1212
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: you love his feet, and most importantly, you love his story. Right,

1213
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,439
Speaker 1: everything you hear about him, the character, and you become

1214
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 1: very invested in it. I'm just making this player up.

1215
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:50,840
Speaker 1: But obviously, once you start introducing him to your coaching staff,

1216
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,560
Speaker 1: to your to your O line coach, it can be

1217
01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 1: difficult because he might not have the same connection. He

1218
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,240
Speaker 1: might never build the same connection as you do. So

1219
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: it can't be hard. Now, part of your job is

1220
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 1: to stand on the table and push. Now. Obviously, the

1221
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: better relationship you have with your assistant coaches, with your GM,

1222
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:12,800
Speaker 1: with your scouting directors, it makes the streamline streamlining that

1223
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:16,720
Speaker 1: process easy. Also, the longer you are in a building

1224
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 1: and you have equity built up, like, hey, remember the

1225
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: last three guys I've been this adamant about, well, two

1226
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: of them are on the team, the other guy's a

1227
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,240
Speaker 1: fucking pro bowler. So I'm not just saying this to

1228
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: say it so you can't cry wolf. So I don't remember.

1229
01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 1: It's been you know, it's a decade now. I definitely

1230
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,000
Speaker 1: the more and more because I'm a people guy, so

1231
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: I tend to like people and I tend to not

1232
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: like people. Right, I'm pretty opinionated, so it would have

1233
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,600
Speaker 1: been an issue. And the one thing I learned, and

1234
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,840
Speaker 1: this is really good advice, is you got to watch

1235
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 1: the player before you read the character. Because if you

1236
01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: read the character first, and when I say read, like

1237
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: you go meet with a person and they give you

1238
01:05:56,400 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 1: the breakdown of the background and the character, you might

1239
01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:02,200
Speaker 1: fall for a guy who might not be that good,

1240
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,040
Speaker 1: and vice versa. You get a character that's not great,

1241
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:08,439
Speaker 1: like god, I hate this loser, and then you watch

1242
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: the tape You're like, God, this guy's good. And it

1243
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,000
Speaker 1: can really skew the way that you view a player.

1244
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: So it's it's what makes the stuff so complicated, right,

1245
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: because there's the person, there's the player, but ultimately there

1246
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: the package is together. The person is the player, but

1247
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:26,120
Speaker 1: when you evaluate him, you kind of separate it, right,

1248
01:06:26,160 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: You do the right up on the football player, and

1249
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:30,920
Speaker 1: then you do the separate right up on the background,

1250
01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: the character, the work, ethic, all that stuff, all the intangibles.

1251
01:06:34,560 --> 01:06:38,360
Speaker 1: So it's it's why the job's hard. It's it's why

1252
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,520
Speaker 1: you have so many people that miss. I'm a Patriot

1253
01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 1: fan and my girlfriend is a Broncos fan. We made

1254
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: a bet on the season, whose ever team loses more

1255
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 1: games has to run a marathon. Should I start training?

1256
01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 1: I would say that, what if you guys both win

1257
01:06:53,600 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: the same amount of games, do you go marathon together?

1258
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:59,400
Speaker 1: I think the Patriots have every bit the same chance

1259
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 1: as the Broncos to be worse. I would actually say

1260
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 1: that Broncos are more inclined to win a game or

1261
01:07:09,160 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: two more than the Patriots because, like the previous DM

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Speaker 1: er said, like Russell hasn't been that terrible. He's not

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Speaker 1: as good as he once was, but he's way better

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Speaker 1: than mac Jones. So if you just go god, if

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Speaker 1: Russell gets hot for a couple of games, couldn't they

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Speaker 1: win five? If their defense just their defense is gonna

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Speaker 1: have some games where it doesn't play terrible. The Patriots

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Speaker 1: stuck on offense, they have no talent, their quarterback is awful,

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Speaker 1: and now their defense is all banged up. So if

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Speaker 1: I had to bet right now, sitting here on October eleventh,

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Speaker 1: I say Patriots four wins, Broncos five, five wins. That's

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Speaker 1: a terrible season, but I think the Patriots got four

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Speaker 1: wins written all over them. Okay, we'll be back Thursday

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Speaker 1: after the game. Prob would be out Friday morning. Appreciate

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Speaker 1: everyone listening. Audios the volume