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Speaker 2: Get my Giants. Moblo him me some Joe. Part of

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Giants Huddle Podcast, brought to you by Citizens,

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Speaker 1: the official bank of the New York Giants. My name

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Speaker 1: is Madelin Burke. Alongside the Super Bowl champion Amani Tumor

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Speaker 1: for a Week nine rapid reaction. The Giants went out

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Speaker 1: to Las Vegas, fell to the Raiders thirty to six.

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Speaker 1: Amani h of course, the big storyline Daniel Jones making

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Speaker 1: his return after missing a few weeks with that neck injury.

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Speaker 1: We saw a lot of returns. We saw Andrew Thomas

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Speaker 1: left tackle coming back, Evan Neil right tackle coming back.

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Speaker 1: Neil of course, would leave late in the game. Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jones left late in the first quarter with an apparent

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Speaker 1: knee injury. The team has still not been specific on

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Speaker 1: what that injury is. But you hate to see an

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Speaker 1: injury like that for the quarterback to.

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Speaker 3: Him, you definitely hate to see it because you know,

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Speaker 3: you know that the offense runs better when he's in.

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Speaker 3: You know that it just gives you He's like a

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Speaker 3: big play guy waiting to happen.

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Speaker 2: He can do it with his arm, he could do

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Speaker 2: with his legs. A very dynamic player.

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Speaker 3: So whenever you're down, you know you're you're starting quarterback,

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Speaker 3: and then you're also down your backup quarterback in Tyrod Taylor,

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Speaker 3: and you're with you're in with Tommy Davido. Your your

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Speaker 3: opportunity to win goes down significantly. So it's just it's

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Speaker 3: been a frustrating season. This to me seems like one

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Speaker 3: of the low points of the season because this is

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Speaker 3: a game Taylor made for this Giants team to get

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Speaker 3: back off to Schneid and put together a good performance

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Speaker 3: on the road, especially against a team that is in turmoil.

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Speaker 3: They fire their offensive coordinator, they fire their head coach,

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Speaker 3: they fire their starting quarterback, and they fire their general

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Speaker 2: It's very embarrassing.

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Speaker 3: It reminds me of the game when we played the

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Speaker 2: It was just an embarrassment.

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Speaker 3: You wanted to get the stink off off of the

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Speaker 3: worse if this Giants team doesn't make a decision to

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Speaker 3: come out and perform and execute at a much higher level,

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Speaker 3: because the season doesn't get much easier. We still have

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Speaker 3: Cowboys next week. It could get ugly. Yeah, and performance

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Speaker 3: like this is just not acceptable.

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Speaker 1: Well, and when you mentioned the fact that this is

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Speaker 1: win because of the fact that the Raiders did fire

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Speaker 1: You know, Antonio Pears is a guy that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people around this organization know quite well and have said,

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Speaker 1: when you've got that many changes around a team, that

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Speaker 1: You know, Bobby Ocake and Paris Campbell, we're talking about

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Speaker 1: this last year when they were both with the Indianapolis Colts,

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Speaker 1: So when you're facing a team like that that has

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Speaker 1: you kind of got to be on your A game, right, You.

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Speaker 3: Do have to be on your A game. I never

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Speaker 4: You're ready for a change. Payday comes early with citizens,

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Speaker 4: So go to that retreat, knew you moves to the country.

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Speaker 4: Now you're raising goats and launching a lifestyle brand. Are

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Speaker 3: Offensive coordinators, defensive coordinators, scouting departments. They spend so much

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Speaker 2: Hard thing to do.

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Speaker 3: I much rather play one of these teams after three

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Speaker 2: So I knew it was going to be a challenge.

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Speaker 3: I knew that the unknowing and the uncertainty of what

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Speaker 2: And wish they did. But man, that Raider team came

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Speaker 1: And they you know, and they did so. Brian relying

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Speaker 1: But MANI you mentioned the execution and one of the

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Speaker 1: on this as a receiver too. I mean, there was

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Speaker 1: You see Tommy DeVito trying to do you know, he

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Speaker 3: Well, I think in certain situations you're going to be

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Speaker 2: You've got to change the launch point the catch point.

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Speaker 4: a turf biz. Business grows, your savings grow, become the

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? And you know you see a lot of young

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Speaker 1: Week ten at the Dallas Cowboys, and the Cowboys just

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Speaker 3: When is enough enough? I mean, they put up forty

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Speaker 3: You put up six points, You put up sixteen points

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be a lot of changes this offseason. There's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of people that are getting opportunity

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Speaker 3: to play that you know may not be maybe on

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Speaker 2: Oh, what about those the what about?

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Speaker 3: I wanted somebody from that Giants team, who who is?

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Speaker 3: They were successful, they were there, winners there, they put

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Speaker 2: People don't take stuff from losing teams, and so.

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Speaker 3: I feel like when you are losing like this, you're

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Speaker 3: And so I think a lot of these players need

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Speaker 1: And this is a team that, like Sakwan Barkley said, too,

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Speaker 1: until you're mathematically eliminated, until they tell you this season

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a dream that most of these

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Speaker 1: Football League. And that kind of a pride is going

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Speaker 1: to be carrying this team through these next few weeks.

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Speaker 1: But of course it's going to be a tough one

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Speaker 1: at Dallas in Week ten, coming off this thirty to

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Speaker 1: six loss in Las Vegas. Gonna be a long flight

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Speaker 1: home for this Giants team. Of course, wishing a very

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Speaker 1: speedy recovery to all the players banged up, including Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 1: Will keep you up to date with all the latest

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Speaker 1: with his injury as we find out throughout the week.

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Speaker 1: And that's a wrap for our rapid reaction. Just a reminder,

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