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Speaker 1: what Peanut, tell a friend there. It is all right, peanut.

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Speaker 1: Who is our guest? Our next guest? We had a

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Speaker 1: really looking forward to it because he wore I mean

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Speaker 1: I wore the same number as him.

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Speaker 2: You did well.

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Speaker 3: I got to roll my sleeves up because I got

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Speaker 3: to show y'all I got some guns. And if y'all

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Speaker 3: listen right now, this next brother is prettick, damn swol.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna roll my sleeves up for this intro right now, y'all. Oh,

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Speaker 3: let him feel them show the biggest muscling own right now.

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Speaker 3: Seventy this next guy, seventeen years in the league, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 3: how many seventeen?

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen years of the league, four time Pro bowler, three

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Speaker 3: Football Hall of Fame All decade two thousands. Team TV

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Speaker 3: and radio broadcaster, Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome Lorenzo O'Neil

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Speaker 3: to the shot.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, you think years, I don't even drive that.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, I got lucky. I don't know how

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Speaker 4: I did it, but I'll tell you right now. I

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Speaker 4: could let you, Peanut, introduce me anytime, because you gave

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Speaker 4: me a couple of extra accolades there that I would like,

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Speaker 2: You for that. No, I thought, I said the All

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Speaker 2: Decade team. Yeah, but you definitely all but he wants

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Speaker 2: that Hall of Fame. I need you. You're gonna manifest. Okay,

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Speaker 2: let's manifest. I like it. Okay, nobody else to play seventeen.

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Speaker 2: Let's get it.

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Speaker 1: Nobody else has done it with you, all right, low

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Speaker 1: because you played when it was real, real ball going on.

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Speaker 2: What was your first welcome to the NFL moment?

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Speaker 4: Well, you got to realize when I get drafted in

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Speaker 4: ninety three, I go to the Dome patrol Ricky Jackson,

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Speaker 4: I went to New Orleans and it was like live shock.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, because yeah, we talked about this and all right, Lorenzo,

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Speaker 2: Okay. So it's in New Orleans, Okay, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, I guess you would come in town to visit,

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Speaker 1: and you were visiting your friend Mike Carney. Carney all right,

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Speaker 4: But Mike Carney call it backdrop to that is, when

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Speaker 2: He's there. Yes, I come to town.

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Speaker 1: So we're in Destrahan where I live, where Mike Carney lived.

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Speaker 2: So so next to. You know, we're outside of bar

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Speaker 1: And so we're outside in a parking lot and Mike

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Speaker 1: man Low is putting him down time after time after time,

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Speaker 1: Bob put him down, and I'm like, dude.

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Speaker 2: What about the second time Bob put him down again?

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, this is like, I mean, this

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Speaker 4: Wouldn't it challenge me? I'm like, dude, I'm my own wrestling.

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Speaker 4: There's no way you can pin me. In in a minute,

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Speaker 1: My full back is getting just done in by Lorenzo

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Speaker 1: meeting this. Yeah, I'm glad you totally remember that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I was this that's a fly on the wall.

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Speaker 3: So two thousand and six was magical for me for

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Speaker 3: so many reasons. That was here, I was in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: We ended up going to the super Bowl, ended up losing,

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Speaker 3: But it was a good season. Yes, I think for you,

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Speaker 3: I was drafted. You're drafted. It's becose your for all

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Speaker 3: all right, Peptover. So two thousand and six was magical

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Speaker 3: for you. A different reason that's the year la Danny Tomlinson,

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Speaker 4: We called to play and I have a kickout. I said,

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Speaker 4: all right, LT get him a hip and don't dip.

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Speaker 4: Let's ride. So I said, I got you. So we

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Speaker 4: When you watch that play where he bro I eat

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Speaker 3: I wasn't trying to help him out. I was point shaving.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to I'm gonna have to look that

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Speaker 3: Todd Dirky used to have a place called Fitness Question.

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Speaker 2: No, very very talented to.

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Speaker 3: His credit that we will give him his flowers and everything,

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Speaker 2: No question.

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Speaker 4: But you look at LT and that's why you could

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Speaker 4: He more athletic, yes, And if he would hit you,

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Speaker 4: I've seen him knock out his safety before. When he

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Speaker 4: Corey Dillon ran hard, he ran angry. And this is

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Speaker 1: Crusted, crushed, killing every feeling, running through souls, Oh, taking

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Speaker 4: And you know you look at Eddie George. Another great

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Speaker 4: You know what, I loved it? I mean because those

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Speaker 1: Shout out, shout out, the county high school, county shout out.

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Speaker 2: I knew he was doing, was going there. So that

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Speaker 1: All right, So all right, well, let let's put a

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Speaker 1: little bit more pressure on you. Can you name Thomas

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Speaker 2: Oh? Definitely, LT. All right, LT.

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Speaker 4: Adrian Morrell, Oh, Adrian, okay, all right, moll was my guy, Mike,

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Speaker 1: You know, I still you know now and then now,

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Speaker 1: but didn't you rush for okay, didn't you rush for

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Speaker 4: No, I started out in the league leading the league

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Speaker 2: Yeah. First the first two games I was leading. That's

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Speaker 4: I broke the ink or broke so first two games

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Speaker 4: run seventy four down the line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. When seventy four, nobody came and ran me down.

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Speaker 2: That's old school. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's the old school.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh Yeah, that's you.

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Speaker 4: Didn't want to fall, right, that's why you ran so

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Speaker 2: Term you come on dog? You know how? Oh oh god?

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Speaker 2: What the old Metro.

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Speaker 3: I'm dating myself now that I am played the old Metro?

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Speaker 3: Do I did one year?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god? Was trash track bailed down? Trash got

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Speaker 2: that big strawberry? Yes? How about the Steelers old Stadium?

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Speaker 2: I didn't get to play in that one? Okay?

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Speaker 4: You know who sucked to the Raiders that falling on

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been in there out the fall. The dirt

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Speaker 2: Nobody want to go get this first out. Let me

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Speaker 2: is great? Oh my god, I hated that so glad

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Speaker 3: We're gonna take a short break and we'll be right back.

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Speaker 3: So I got I got one for you. The era

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Speaker 3: it's the game's completely changed, and your style of play

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Speaker 2: Well, it was me. It's simple.

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Speaker 4: They Janet Evan, they said, Janets the Queen, Lorenzo's the King.

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Speaker 4: I beat up Quincy Watts, Curtis Conway, all those guys

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Speaker 4: And my grandma said, come here and sit down. I

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Speaker 4: And I didn't want the boss to know that. She said, so,

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Speaker 4: I didn't get that when I was in high school.

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Speaker 4: every single linebacker, every single safety that I see. I'm

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00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,440
Speaker 4: going to because I'm gonna make these coaches play me.

433
00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,480
Speaker 4: So that's what I drove me to play the game

434
00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,720
Speaker 4: as hard as I could for seventeen years. It's like,

435
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 4: now I'm gonna show them that, no, you ain't gonna

436
00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:25,800
Speaker 4: replace me. I'm not going to take a break and

437
00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to run through you. I mean, you

438
00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:33,239
Speaker 4: lead me right into my question, and that is how

439
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,560
Speaker 4: much pride do you take? Clearly you take pride in

440
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:39,480
Speaker 4: your work. Hearing the story about from your grandmother coming

441
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:44,240
Speaker 4: from Fort Worth that you played in two hundred and

442
00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:49,240
Speaker 4: twenty one consecutive games without missing. Like, that's a long

443
00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,960
Speaker 4: time long to play the position that you played, to

444
00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 4: play through injuries and all that consecutively and continue to

445
00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:58,880
Speaker 4: show your will upon your opponents.

446
00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was tough.

447
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:02,719
Speaker 4: There were some games then I didn't know. I mean,

448
00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:06,199
Speaker 4: miss maybe Wednesday, and like we rarely could limp through practice,

449
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,200
Speaker 4: but like, hey, coach, you're gonna gonna hold out, No,

450
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 4: I'm playing. You have to have that determination.

451
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: It was tough.

452
00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 4: It was really tough, and it was really hard to

453
00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 4: make it that long, those many games. And the only

454
00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:19,160
Speaker 4: reason I didn't after that because I broke my ankle

455
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,639
Speaker 4: against the Titans. I remember that game. So I was

456
00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 4: missed four weeks and came back and that's when broke

457
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 4: the streak.

458
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 2: Hello, you missed four weeks? Yeah, with a broken ankle.

459
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, broke the table and non way bearing bone in

460
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,040
Speaker 4: the leg and uh like a fibula. Yeah, And then

461
00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,159
Speaker 4: they went in, put boat, put screws in it. I

462
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,840
Speaker 4: broke my fible in high schools shut out four weeks later. Baby,

463
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:44,680
Speaker 4: let's go, let's do let's go, coach, put me in

464
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 4: the game.

465
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,280
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm not in that group, like I don't

466
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Speaker 2: want that. Yeah, I don't want that. I'm good. It

467
00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 2: is a non way baron bone though you learned a

468
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:56,000
Speaker 2: lot about it. Yes, yes you do. I'm okay not

469
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 2: being in that club. It's cool.

470
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Speaker 4: So you're too pretty you never got got get out

471
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,720
Speaker 4: of the way, or never got never beat up pretty bad.

472
00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:03,600
Speaker 2: Or no I got beat up.

473
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm just asking don bro come on now, I'm

474
00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:11,760
Speaker 1: almost a thousand tackles okay, okay, corners you know, y.

475
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay, I'm different, Okay, I'm different. Okay, y'all didn't

476
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: want death smoke.

477
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:21,199
Speaker 3: Almost a thousand tackles as a corner. Okay, almost a thousand.

478
00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 3: That means So I want to know this all right

479
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 3: now since we're checking out tough, we y'all?

480
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 2: Are I know this? Like?

481
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Speaker 1: Do you think you would have played twenty years in

482
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Speaker 1: today's game where they can no longer cut the guys

483
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 1: coming at them?

484
00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 2: Oh, because there's no way I would have took you

485
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,320
Speaker 2: up high?

486
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,639
Speaker 1: You're already sure you got the low center you You

487
00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 1: would probably destroy people.

488
00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 4: Now, my guys linebackers would come in and cut me corner,

489
00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 4: they take my legs out o me and you oh,

490
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Speaker 4: you know.

491
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Speaker 2: What I'm saying, because nowadays, you they can't.

492
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Speaker 1: Every time nobody could, Like defenders, I'm like, there's no

493
00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,920
Speaker 1: way I want to take on a set of edge.

494
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Speaker 3: No Francisco, how they said it. No, they bring the

495
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Speaker 3: tackle and they bring him in motion.

496
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, william T.

497
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Speaker 4: Full speed and they ain't got it. No pole corner, yeah, pole,

498
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 4: coney hole coney. They don't want that smoke. No, they

499
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,439
Speaker 4: don't want to smoke. Don't want that smoke.

500
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

501
00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,439
Speaker 1: I played a long time, you know what I mean,

502
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: Like you played seventeen, but you probably played twenty one.

503
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:30,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, at least twenty because you I think I took

504
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 4: at least two years off my career.

505
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,640
Speaker 2: In training camp, yeah, I mean we had freaking Jim

506
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,879
Speaker 2: Moore was tough, yes, playoffs. I mean you had a

507
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,439
Speaker 2: guy he told me like how tough his trading caps

508
00:22:42,440 --> 00:22:47,120
Speaker 2: were man twice a day. I mean, full pads nine

509
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 2: on seven goal line.

510
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Speaker 4: This is I mean, Jim Mortan care bro and then

511
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 4: old school and then I went Jets, but Bill Parcells.

512
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Speaker 4: So I mean I had these old school coaches that

513
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,359
Speaker 4: Marty swon. I had coaches that, Okay, we're gonna make

514
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 4: this thing. This party Ball, Marty Ball, Market Ball. Yeah,

515
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,120
Speaker 4: I think I would have got at least I'd say

516
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Speaker 4: two more.

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah, because I just thought about it, because you know,

518
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: with guys no longer being able to go low on blockers, right,

519
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 1: I think I'm I mean right, yeah, yeah, I got

520
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 1: two more.

521
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Speaker 3: Okay, So you and I got something in common. Uh,

522
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 3: pro bowls you made them. Mind, mine came pretty late

523
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: and later in my career, yours came late.

524
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 2: Why do you think it?

525
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:34,320
Speaker 3: Why do you think it took so long for you

526
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: to get your first pro ball?

527
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 2: You know what?

528
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,920
Speaker 4: I don't know, because I was like, it was I

529
00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 4: tell you what it was. It was pretty upset. I

530
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 4: was disappointed.

531
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Speaker 3: Like you know, you you know how it is, Broa,

532
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 3: You go out there, you ball, You're just like, all right, yeah,

533
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,680
Speaker 3: it's I got yours. I got this, I got that.

534
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 3: My guy i'm blocking for he has this. I got

535
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 3: the picks, I got the tackles, I got the force fumbles.

536
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, for sure, I'm going in. And then you

537
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:58,400
Speaker 3: coach he reads it and it's like if you don't

538
00:23:58,400 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: get caught.

539
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 4: You're like what you don't but you don't say nothing, right,

540
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 4: You're just like mag deal. But you know, you just pissed.

541
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 4: The next season, You're like, I'm a member. And then

542
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 4: the thing about it is like, I think it's a

543
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 4: let's be real popular everybody all day. Every guys is

544
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: just gonna get that. And I was like, man, are

545
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,280
Speaker 4: you kidding me? I said, Okay, I remember I go

546
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,399
Speaker 4: out there playing against the linebackers. I said, are you

547
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 4: to vote for me a Pro Bowl?

548
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: Boom?

549
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: I mean I would be telling them that on the field. No, no, no,

550
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 1: I'm telling you because it's them, They're the ones that eroded.

551
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: This is what you guys want to do. I wouldn't

552
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,719
Speaker 1: ask to kill spikes ask them. I'm like, man, I'm

553
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna worry you ab out today. I'm judged the jury.

554
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 1: I'm find you guilty today.

555
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 2: Man, Bro, Yeah, hould up, that's that's the one I say.

556
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: Want that smoke? Man. You know they dogged you.

557
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 4: Bro. You know at least three a couple you knew

558
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 4: you you was there. I think they need to do

559
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 4: not do away with the Pro Bowl.

560
00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,760
Speaker 3: I gotta do something with it as far as how

561
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 3: they vote, because I think Antonine Winfield Junior made All Pro.

562
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 3: He's the first team All Pro and make a Pro Bowl. Yes,

563
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: like how do you how does that even?

564
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: And look, man, I had some of my best years

565
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,800
Speaker 1: and I didn't go to the Pro Bowl well and

566
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: it was like, oh well maybe he was too dirty

567
00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,879
Speaker 1: and but you know, and then your GM comes over

568
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 1: You're like, hey, look we look at this one stat

569
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: who's maybe impacted more, made more impact, like you led

570
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: the league in this, this, this, and I'm just like,

571
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: you know what, that doesn't absolutely nothing nothing for me

572
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:30,240
Speaker 1: right now right the Pro Bowl?

573
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 2: Okay? And so yes, it is very diff wanted to

574
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,239
Speaker 2: your resume. Yes, and it's pretty fun to go over

575
00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 2: to Hawaiian have fun. Yes, Yes, do you go to Hawaii? Baby,

576
00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 2: let's go? Yes?

577
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 1: What Yeah, and make sure nobody else knows what room

578
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: you're staying in, because the best real put that stuff

579
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: on your room.

580
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 2: I lot every time, Yet every time.

581
00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 4: No one knew a room. I was, Oh, man, I

582
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 4: was John White. No, no, no, seriously, bro, I already

583
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 4: got my name out. What Actually the guy a Rebok,

584
00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 4: that's his.

585
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 2: Name, remember John? He was?

586
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,240
Speaker 4: And I was like, I used his name. He's like,

587
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 4: you're using my name. I didn't even know it's hitting

588
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 4: with reb Yeah, but yeah, get your room.

589
00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 2: The guys.

590
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,480
Speaker 4: See, guys build three thousand, no doubt, thirty thousand bucks.

591
00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: Oh for all that that don't know, that is a

592
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: whole deal, especially old school guys. That was like a

593
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,880
Speaker 1: whole deal when hazing and all that stuff was very prevalent.

594
00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 4: And Peyton was the best. Hayden get the rookies. Hey man, man,

595
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: you're a good receiver. What you got when we're you're

596
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,800
Speaker 4: on your deal, Hey man, let's grasp some dinner. I'm

597
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 4: gonna call you. I'm gonna call you man and paple Grass.

598
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 4: Peyton was set them up so cold. Peyton was the

599
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,000
Speaker 4: coldest at setting guys up.

600
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 3: And I'm sure that that receiver was like dang, yeah, exactly.

601
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: He's really giving me some sound advice. Hayton, Man, how

602
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 3: could I.

603
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,960
Speaker 4: Never went to dinner with me? Yeah, just drunk with

604
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: him at the pool before he knew it. He I

605
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,240
Speaker 4: see guys crying, Bill, I didn't do this.

606
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: I didn't do this.

607
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 3: Then they get Fox one time. I think they got Fox.

608
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 3: I think they got Fox with like I'm doing.

609
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 2: I was like.

610
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 3: Fifteen fifteen g's so I believe it from everybody just

611
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,200
Speaker 3: racking stuff up on his hotel room.

612
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: Oh my God.

613
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: All right, So tell me what type of mentality? Well

614
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,640
Speaker 1: you already talked about the mentality, but how much pride

615
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: did you take in making three straight probos at the

616
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: age of what is it, thirty five, thirty six, and

617
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: thirty seven? Yeah, coming late in your later on in

618
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: your career, Like, how did you get to that point?

619
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,719
Speaker 1: And what type of pride do you take in that? Now?

620
00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: Because we talked about making pro bos, I mean you

621
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: probably wanted them more in your twenties. Sure, well, you

622
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: probably could have enjoyed it a little bit more. I'm

623
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: not saying you didn't enjoy that in your thirties, but twenties.

624
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: You know we are mentality wise, right right? Well, I

625
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: just think that anything you do in life, you got

626
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: to keep working. And PID tell you it's just like, man,

627
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,000
Speaker 1: you missed a couple and you're like, man, okay, is

628
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 1: it ever going to happen? And you start to wonder.

629
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 1: I remember in Tennessee, I made All Pro All Joe team,

630
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: all those teams, and I didn't make the Pro Bowl,

631
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 1: And it was like so frustrating.

632
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 2: The one thing that's holding you back, the one thing

633
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: that's like you want.

634
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly and so it's crazy because if you work

635
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 4: and you continue to work, and no matter what you

636
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 4: do in anything in life. I mean, I do real

637
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 4: estate now and do a bunch of stuff, and I

638
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 4: miss some deals, but I'll get a deal. I'll put

639
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 4: in four or five offers on a house and it's like, man,

640
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 4: am I gonna when? Am I gonna get one? And

641
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 4: all of a sudden the one that I wanted, sweet

642
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,119
Speaker 4: deal comes in, and it's like, but you got to

643
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 4: stay consistent. You have to stay the plan. You have

644
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 4: to stay the course. You can't deviate. And that's what

645
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 4: and I tell people all the time, working will wishing won't.

646
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: The will to win means nothing without the will to prepare.

647
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 4: You got to be prepared that it's going to happen.

648
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 4: And that's how That's how I've run my life now.

649
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,040
Speaker 4: That's what I did when I was playing and believe

650
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:42,479
Speaker 4: it or not, two and fourteen two and fourteen Pro

651
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 4: Bowl really Cincinnati Bingals first only player on the team

652
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 4: made the Pro Bowl to and fourteen Pro So that

653
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,720
Speaker 4: was the first Pro Bowl that I went to on

654
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 4: the worst team and on the worst team in the

655
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 4: league that I play. Because people recognize what you were

656
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 4: bringing to the table only Bengal that made it so.

657
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 4: It's just the consistency is to say, I'm not gonna

658
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 4: quit and if it is to be, it's up to me.

659
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: That's it.

660
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 4: I look at myself in the mirror and my dad

661
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: Grandma said like, hey, look, Dad always said, man, Son,

662
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 4: it's gonna be up to me, and he tell me

663
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 4: get up in the morning, look at yourself in the

664
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: mirror and say, if it is to be, it's up

665
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 4: to me. And I just you live by that every day,

666
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: even when they have the bad days, because man, life

667
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 4: don't go what you want. Life don't go the way

668
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 4: you plan it. It doesn't happen. You got to have

669
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 4: that determination, You got to have that will power. You

670
00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: got to be able to look and say, man, yesterday's history,

671
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 4: tomorrow's a mystery, today's a present. It's a gift lived

672
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,400
Speaker 4: in it. And people don't take advantage of those opportunities, right.

673
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: And the crazy though, once you shout out to Kung

674
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 1: Fu Panda, that was my paper my little girls, Yeah

675
00:29:47,600 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 1: said that Kong Flu Panda. Do I get that's the bro? Sorry,

676
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: he was good, he was great. Thomas. I'm just in

677
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: here trying to ask some questions. I'm sorry, he's talking

678
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: about Confrapanda. That's like Rome start time. I'm in the

679
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: middle of a question and he he just cuts me.

680
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: Off, and I'm like, okay, I don't I'm bad dog.

681
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got excited. Yes, he gonna do it again. No,

682
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: he do it all the time. I just gotta all right.

683
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 2: I just let him. Let him do his thing. You

684
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

685
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 3: You like that pit bull with the with the no

686
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 3: no collar, and you just do your own thing.

687
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 2: I just let you do it. Thank you. I just

688
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: let you do it. Thank you. I was gonna say, once.

689
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 3: You got the first Pro Bowl, the other the other

690
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 3: two three, they just kind of they just they just flowed, right.

691
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: People recognize your game and your game in the process. Yes,

692
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: that's all I mean.

693
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: Well, Sean Payton used to always say, how you know,

694
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: your first Pro Bowl usually comes after your really good year.

695
00:30:54,400 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 1: You usually don't make it on your first time having

696
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: a big year, and then it usually comes after that.

697
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 1: And then once you get one, you'll get two in three,

698
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: and you'll probably go to one that you don't even

699
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 1: deserve at the end, like somebody will. You'll usually get

700
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: in once you become a Pro Bowl guy at the

701
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: end of your career, or one year when you probably

702
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: don't deserve it over another kid that's in their first

703
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: really big year, and you'll get in over them.

704
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 4: So that's how the NFL kind of keeps it. It does,

705
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 4: it does, but you know, and I'll take it. I'll

706
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: take it for all the years. Yeah, for all the

707
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 4: years they didn't get us right, I'm getting back.

708
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: You see this guy.

709
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 4: See this guy throw that, throw that salt. There's probably

710
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 4: some years you should have been No, no, it's not

711
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 4: bro I say, man, we heard every bro pte. I

712
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: see how you pee rough?

713
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,719
Speaker 2: I see he is. He slided him in there. Lightweight, lightweight,

714
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 2: turn it real quick. That was good.

715
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 4: How you set that up though, brohprinkling in there.

716
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: So let's talk about this neck roll. Oh, Safeties notorious

717
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 3: for wearing neck rolls. Linebackers notorious necks. You never wore

718
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 3: one heavy? Hell, okay, my bad was not offensive. If

719
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 3: I wear a negro, I'm throwing at that guy. If

720
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: you see a DV with a.

721
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 5: Negro throwing at him immediately, he can't get it ready yet.

722
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 5: He is getting thrown at immediately. First from check check check, chack, check,

723
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 5: and point at it.

724
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 2: They going right at that guy, right at that guy.

725
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 6: No way, don't even come over here, I guess my

726
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 6: So for those listening and if you're watching, the negro

727
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 6: was like, literally it's just like a it looks like

728
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 6: a white towel that you literally put behind your neck

729
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 6: and you had some shoe strings and it's.

730
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 2: Just no doubt it wove in. Did it really help

731
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: you when you wore it? I would I want the

732
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 2: cowboy collar later on you I wouldn't the negro straight

733
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 2: straight one?

734
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like becd I'd be cocks. I had the

735
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 4: cowboy it's a car. It's like a cowboy caller. So

736
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 4: it's kind of like, you know, have the dogs got

737
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 4: those callers on when they get this when they can

738
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 4: the okay, so it doesn't go around.

739
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 2: You, Yeah, just go in.

740
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 4: D's right here, so it goes all away. And it

741
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 4: kept that big rock. That was my money maker. This

742
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: right here was a money maker. I'm coming downhill, So.

743
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 2: You had to win eighty cone. Yeah, yes, I guess

744
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 2: the next roll don't work as good as that.

745
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 4: Back in the day, I used to you know, a

746
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:25,520
Speaker 4: d Eric Dickinson term on the next Rod because he's

747
00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 4: you know, Eric Dicks twenty nine.

748
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 2: To run pretty, he run pretty.

749
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 4: Now, used to try to break out like he man down.

750
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 4: I'll get right because that's pretty. No, No, because I

751
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 4: was running pretty. You gotta get ugly to run. Sometimes

752
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 4: you try to run like d could do it like this,

753
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 4: Yeah he was. I used to get out like that

754
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 4: on Man coming again. But if I get if I

755
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 4: get that little buck to it, Okay, cancel Christmas.

756
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm going that's the Adrian Peterson a Peters he does. Yeah. Yeah,

757
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 2: when that heir go to Bob and it's a right,

758
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: it's a round. There you go. That's a Christmas. We're

759
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 2: gonna take a short break and we'll be right back. Okay.

760
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: So I love this.

761
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: I mean we've never actually talked about neck rolls on

762
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,200
Speaker 1: this show. This is really good. This is really good. Also,

763
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: the difference between the cowboy Tyler the board. Yes, the

764
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 1: board was a big thing. Derrick Brooks was another guy,

765
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 1: was a board guy. B Cox was a board guy

766
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,640
Speaker 1: and on the board guy. Now you can't the only Matt.

767
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: You can't look back as much. It stops you, It

768
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 1: really stops you. You know, impede your you know, range

769
00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: of motion big time. Yeah, So that's tough. And the

770
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: reason why I knew I wasn't getting the ball, so man,

771
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, I just didn't a little you know, ran man,

772
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: you know, so I that's rugger, man, because I just

773
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:48,280
Speaker 1: I'd go and then when I get done, I'd squat

774
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 1: and boom, just jump right into him. I'd headshot.

775
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't play in this game now because I leave

776
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 4: with my head I'd run and I get close and

777
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 4: I just you know, I'm already short, like you said,

778
00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 4: and then I just dropped my hips running, dropped boom

779
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:01,040
Speaker 4: and explode.

780
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,760
Speaker 2: The boom Yeah ah quick, yes, sir. Explos and feeling.

781
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the way you're describing it, I mean, and as

782
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,760
Speaker 3: he's looking us up like I'm like, okay, yeah.

783
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,479
Speaker 2: I'm not saying I was looking, but his chest popped

784
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: really hard.

785
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I was like, whoa, I wasn't hello, yeah,

786
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't looking, but all right, right, right, yeah, you

787
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: know that's it.

788
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 5: That was it.

789
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 3: I think we played y'all in four oh three or

790
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: something like that, probably my Rooki year. I think we

791
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 3: had like it was a talls or something like that.

792
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: On my side, I got that business I have was

793
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 3: a corner and played cover two and I had to

794
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 3: you know, hammer everything back inside to the to my defense,

795
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,359
Speaker 3: and it didn't end so well for me. That's when

796
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: I was like one hundred ninety six pounds. I was

797
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: just frail, just skinny, narrow.

798
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 2: Y'all put this into in Diego. Yeah, we said, yeah, yes,

799
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 2: got me good.

800
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:53,799
Speaker 4: You know what I called one of the guys man

801
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 4: because uh, that was one of that that ever that

802
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 4: he thought it was cheap shot.

803
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 2: But it wasn't. No, I won't a cheap shot. This

804
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: was a good old fashioned football. Just the best man won.

805
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 4: And I know one of you guys blew out his

806
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 4: kne that game. Wasn't me, No, I know, it wasn't you.

807
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 4: It wasn't you know, wasn't you? And god it was

808
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 4: it was h one of the safeties was playing you guys,

809
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: and you guys and the coach got really made.

810
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: It might have been what you God forget, it.

811
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: Wasn't Mike Brown. Wasn't Mike Brown did tear his knee

812
00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: up one year, so that might have been seven. Then

813
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: it was seven.

814
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah it was Mike Brown O seven. We played y'all

815
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: in San Diego. Yeah, Mike Brown. I remember Mike be

816
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 2: when the tourists.

817
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember call him and said, man, sorry about that.

818
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 4: You know he's uh yeah, I played and I was

819
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 4: like man, I was like, man, Mike Brown, Yeah.

820
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm talking about O. Three y'all played. Oh yeah,

821
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: I think it was three y'all played us in Chicago,

822
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 3: and uh yeah. He gave me the business man. Sometimes

823
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 3: you get the bear. Sometimes the bear get you. There

824
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 3: it is you grats got the bear. Grats all right.

825
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,879
Speaker 3: I would have big Bear Thomas when uh, big brown bear.

826
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 2: All right?

827
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: Lo, when did you know it was time like in

828
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, when it was time to retire?

829
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, you played seventeen. I was that was your seventeen.

830
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 4: I was with the Raiders and I remember going out

831
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 4: to practice and just like just walking out and it's

832
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,399
Speaker 4: just different. Things slowed down. You see the young guys

833
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 4: running around. Let's go training camp. You're going My hamstring

834
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 4: was tight, and I remember like going on kickoff and

835
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 4: we would do the drill. You know, you you get

836
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 4: in front of a guy and the guy's got to

837
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 4: run around. You gotta catch him and set up up

838
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 4: and block. He's running behind you and you got to

839
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 4: turn set the wedge, and so you do that, and

840
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 4: I remember running like, man, can I get there?

841
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: I remember?

842
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:37,360
Speaker 4: And then I remember playing nine on seven and we

843
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: had a toss play and it's like okay, toss crack,

844
00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,399
Speaker 4: and it's like okay. I looked out there like okay,

845
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 4: I gotta get there. I started thinking instead of reacting.

846
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 4: And you know, you know what I'm saying. You get

847
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 4: to that point where you're like, okay, I'm lining up, boom,

848
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 4: I gotta make my hips.

849
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: Can I do?

850
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 4: And you start thinking about what you're doing instead of

851
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 4: when we played football, you've always just reacted. And once

852
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 4: that happened, man, I said, oh my goodness, I'm thinking.

853
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 4: I'm thinking out here. I'm still I can still be physical.

854
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 4: I can still, but I have to think about my position.

855
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 4: I got to think about too much instead of just

856
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 4: running up and going reacting. And I was like, okay,

857
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 4: this is it, this is this is you know, you

858
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 4: just kind of know and you're just like, man, all

859
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 4: good things must come doing in.

860
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: Were you ready to accept it? I was, but I wasn't.

861
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 4: Sometimes you just do things because you're just you know,

862
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 4: like I said earlier, it's not the crash. You can

863
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:33,040
Speaker 4: said and stop. You don't know what's next. You dibble.

864
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 4: You gotta realize. That's why I talked about. You know,

865
00:38:35,239 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 4: when I talk to military guys and different things, you

866
00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:40,240
Speaker 4: know we're doing. We're talking when to go be a practice,

867
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 4: what time the bus leave, structure, get structure, all that stuff.

868
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: When the training camp, when they're eating, who's getting taped,

869
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,880
Speaker 4: Who's what? Same thing in military, live in the barracks,

870
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,239
Speaker 4: you're doing boom boom. You're someone, and you're someone in

871
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 4: the military. Boom your commentsary, you're big time, your chief,

872
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,479
Speaker 4: your petty officer. You are the man on that base

873
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 4: football boom, you're so when you go to the stadium,

874
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 4: say yeah, you get to go your own. You don't

875
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: freaking have to go wait in line, You call your team, call,

876
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: you go to doctor, your family, boom, go to the door.

877
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 4: They got it set up. You're someone, You have all

878
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,840
Speaker 4: those things. What happens when you're done, They take that

879
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: jersey from you and then you just have your name.

880
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 2: Who are you? Who are you? And that's those things.

881
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 4: The guys, it's it's tough because of the fact there's

882
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 4: no there's no succession planned, there's no oh, this is

883
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,759
Speaker 4: what you do. Yeah, they'll talk about it, but you're

884
00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 4: playing football. You're in your window, and you don't understand,

885
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 4: you don't see what it's like. And then you know, boom.

886
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 4: You go to the stadium, you go to banks, whatever,

887
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 4: they give you what you want, and now a sudden

888
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 4: you're done. It's like, okay, who are you?

889
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 2: What are you doing? No, you can't get to the

890
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 2: front of the line.

891
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,480
Speaker 4: Oh no, the help? Where's your friends? Where are these

892
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 4: people at it? And all of a sudden you realize

893
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 4: how dark it can be, and you're like, man, who

894
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 4: am i? Where am I going?

895
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 2: What is my process?

896
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 4: You're like, man, am I still depending? And now you're like,

897
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,360
Speaker 4: because you depending on that structure where to go? And

898
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 4: now you knew if you played a game, and now

899
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 4: you don't have that and who's got you? And now

900
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 4: you don't have those things and it's like, oh my good,

901
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 4: people really don't care. You had coaches, trainers be on you,

902
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 4: and now it's just like if you decided to get

903
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: in a hole and crawl up there and die, so

904
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 4: be it. No one's going to be there. So that way,

905
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 4: I think those are those moments that you're like Okay,

906
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 4: I have to make sure that I have some balance.

907
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:14,560
Speaker 2: I have to make sure.

908
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 4: Okay, when am I you know what am I going

909
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,360
Speaker 4: to do to make sure that I don't have to

910
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 4: depend on anyone? Because it's tough to go out there

911
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,359
Speaker 4: after you've been playing and doing stuffing in Bay, Hey

912
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 4: can I get a job?

913
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: Go?

914
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: I do this, and and you're a grown man playing

915
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 4: a kids game, getting the Kings Ransom, and all of

916
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: a sudden you're making millions of dollars and now it's

917
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 4: fifty thousand, sixty thousand, seventy Okay, one hundred if you're lucky.

918
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:38,160
Speaker 2: It's different. How was it for you those first couple

919
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 2: of years out? It was weird. It was weird to

920
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 2: watch football? You did?

921
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 4: I think since I was five six years old, I played.

922
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 4: I played football, and Russell so I. Since I was

923
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 4: a kid, I did it. And then you're thirty eight,

924
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 4: thirty nine, and now you make that transition. And while

925
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,800
Speaker 4: I was playing, I was able to buy some houses

926
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 4: and my buddy Matt and my dad, so I was

927
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:57,839
Speaker 4: buying real estate.

928
00:40:57,840 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 2: But it's still I was.

929
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 4: I was still off season. I'll go home and work

930
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: on but it's still I knew that. I only did

931
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 4: that for three or four months and then I was

932
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 4: gone back to my job, so you know, so I

933
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 4: was doing that. So it was just and then once

934
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,800
Speaker 4: I got out, I was like, Okay, I'm working on

935
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 4: the houses off season, Okay, seasons start, I'm still working

936
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 4: in these houses.

937
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 2: I'm still you know, doing other things. And it's like

938
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 2: it was just different.

939
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,839
Speaker 4: And so I started getting in the radio and doing

940
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 4: some TV in the Bay and working with the Niners

941
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,560
Speaker 4: Raiders and doing those things. So it was okay, but

942
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 4: you still it's a still avoid. It's still avoid. It's

943
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 4: still avoid because you can't walk in those locker rooms,

944
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 4: think about guys. You're laughing with guys, joking around with guys.

945
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 4: Ok okay, it's it's you know, Tuesday, you know, off day,

946
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 4: Friday or whatever. You go out with the boys. It's

947
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 4: just a different thing. And if you had a problem

948
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 4: with someone on the field, okay, practice receiver, Okay, let's

949
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 4: go and you do. You go, do your thing, You

950
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 4: get him or he get you corner, whatever it is.

951
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 4: You knew how to squash it or knew how to

952
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,799
Speaker 4: handle it on the field. Now you walk into business world,

953
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 4: Oh my god, hey, learn to want you to invest

954
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: in this, invest in a restaurant, A good friend of mine.

955
00:41:58,719 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 2: Let's do this.

956
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: Oh boom, here's ROI look at the gross multipier, you

957
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 4: look at the things. You start looking at this, Okay,

958
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 4: what's this cost? And all those things, and you start

959
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 4: you're in this extra space. Now you're doing it. Oh,

960
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 4: seven hundred thousand dollars later, you lost. I can't go

961
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 4: kick your ass. I can't go on the football field

962
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 4: and go and take that out on you. It's different.

963
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,800
Speaker 4: And now you're in a world where people are sharks.

964
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 4: They're out to get you. You're you know, okay, I'm

965
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 4: gonna take advantage of it. And if you ain't prepared

966
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,399
Speaker 4: for some of those ups and downs, and those those

967
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,880
Speaker 4: ups and downs in those walls, it can eat you up.

968
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 4: And I think those were those tough things, and those

969
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 4: are those things that guys you know, have to you

970
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 4: don't have to be prepared for when they leave. This

971
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: game is because now you have to realize you're going

972
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 4: out there. You might have a couple bucks in, but

973
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 4: people want it and think that they can get it

974
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: and tell you that the next thing is in sight

975
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 4: spread and they're gonna tell you what you want to

976
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 4: hear and do those things. But you got to that's

977
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 4: when you got to have good people in your corner.

978
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 4: Are how you're gonna vet that? What is the process

979
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 4: in which you developed to say, Okay, I'm not gonna

980
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,200
Speaker 4: do that. I'm not gonna do that. I gotta see

981
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,200
Speaker 4: this at bad check? That's a bad check? How do

982
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 4: you find that out?

983
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: Who's teaching you?

984
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,359
Speaker 4: Because you take that game of hard knocks, you can't

985
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 4: go back in the league and make three four million again.

986
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 2: If you lose it, you lose it.

987
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a lot. But I think we feel and

988
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: understand everything. Yeah, I've lost a little bit. That's why

989
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:14,759
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, Yeah, you're right.

990
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: I did the same thing. All right, you're right. I

991
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 2: want it. So technically I could have the money that

992
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,799
Speaker 2: I lost in that investment. I could have.

993
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: And did what I wanted to do, but I probably

994
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: would have got arrested.

995
00:43:29,400 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 2: Yeah I wish.

996
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 1: But he's right, though, I wish I could have just like,

997
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: okay this orowe me money and we on this line right.

998
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 2: So he about to catch these hands. Bro, you don't

999
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:43,359
Speaker 2: want this? Yes, I wish I was like, dude, I'm

1000
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 2: with you. And if you win, and you know and

1001
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 2: think about it, if you lose, you lose. It's fine,

1002
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,360
Speaker 2: it's fine. But I don't just do me. Don't just

1003
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 2: do me?

1004
00:43:54,040 --> 00:44:00,279
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Yes, exactly, you. I know

1005
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: where my guy lives. I'm just saying I know where

1006
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: he lives. I haven't done anything.

1007
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: What right I got you?

1008
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,840
Speaker 4: Yes, I've stopped following that. You don't follow him to

1009
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 4: the local supermarket anymore.

1010
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: You got a saying you like to use. It says,

1011
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: don't let your condition dictate your position in life. Yeah,

1012
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,360
Speaker 1: and how do you use that mentality to propel you

1013
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,719
Speaker 1: to your success that you've had in your second act

1014
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: doing some real estate and other things, also sharing your

1015
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,240
Speaker 1: your stories in the media space.

1016
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what I think that I tell people,

1017
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,759
Speaker 4: don't let your condition dictate your position because we all

1018
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,840
Speaker 4: have come from different places. But is that going to

1019
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 4: dictate what we want to really do in life? And

1020
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 4: that's what so many people do say, Well, man, this

1021
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: is my condition. I come from a single family home.

1022
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 4: I do this and tell me that it is it

1023
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,799
Speaker 4: is harder to overcome. And I hate when people say,

1024
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 4: well he did it, and some people are built different

1025
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: and everyone says, oh, well you should, you should look

1026
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 4: look at that guy. Where you hear certain guys and

1027
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 4: certain people, and I think it's very condescending when I

1028
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 4: hear a the visuals say well he made it. You

1029
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 4: could be like that guy or do that, and they

1030
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: don't understand the mindset and they don't understand those other

1031
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 4: Maybe that person did make it because they had great coach.

1032
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: Maybe they had a great other people that surrounded them,

1033
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 4: and the other ones didn't. So it's so hard when

1034
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 4: I hear that people put people in those boxes like that.

1035
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 4: So my thing is like, man, it's about working. It's

1036
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 4: about I know where my position where I want to be,

1037
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 4: and that's why I continue to work. You know, me

1038
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 4: and a couple of buddies, we just invested in a

1039
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,920
Speaker 4: franchise called Hotworks, you know, and it's like, you know,

1040
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 4: open up a you know, the Hot Works gym, gonna

1041
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 4: do three of those and it but it took work,

1042
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 4: It took commitment. It's been watching this this, this, this

1043
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 4: franchise evolved and saying, Okay, how do I get involved

1044
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:41,399
Speaker 4: in this? How do those things? So I just look

1045
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 4: at it every day. Bro as I'm like, I'm gonna

1046
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 4: keep grinding. I'm not going I'm gonna lose. I'm gonna lose,

1047
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:50,240
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna keep getting up. Because when you stop

1048
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: fighting and you stop, then you be able to complace it.

1049
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 4: It's so easy to say, Okay, you know what, Hey,

1050
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 4: I got thirty properties, you know what? You know I'm

1051
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: living you know, fifteen twenty grand And it's like, okay,

1052
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 4: is that dude? Do you just want to keep existing?

1053
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 4: I still got fighting me? I still want to, you know.

1054
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 4: And that's where I say, in my position, I want

1055
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 4: more and not just me, I want I want it

1056
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 4: for my family. I want it for my brothers, my sister.

1057
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 4: So it's like I work because I want it. I

1058
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 4: want a better life for everyone. Because if you have

1059
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 4: everything and your close friends, your family and other ones.

1060
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: Don't, how fun it is? How fun is that? It's

1061
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: not fun?

1062
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 4: It's not fun being around people that you don't really

1063
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 4: want to be around because they have it, and you're

1064
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: doing things that you know that you wouldn't be doing

1065
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: because you're in that click or in that group, and

1066
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: you're like, man, I don't how do I bring my friends?

1067
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 4: How do I bring the people that I love, And

1068
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 4: how do I put them? Don't let their condition dictate

1069
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 4: their position? How do I make them rise up in

1070
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 4: a position?

1071
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:46,880
Speaker 2: What am I doing? How am I educating myself? What

1072
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 2: am I doing?

1073
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 4: Grant writing, doing other stuff? Bringing other people around the

1074
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 4: say how do I employ? How do I employ?

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00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: And say?

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00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 4: Okay, hey, Bud, you know what, hey, just when I'm

1077
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 4: paying in thirty thousand taxes and I'm gonna give you

1078
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: a thirty thousand dollars jobs, So now I'm gonna get

1079
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 4: that thirty thousand dollars write off?

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00:46:57,960 --> 00:46:59,359
Speaker 2: How do I do those things?

1081
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 4: That's saying, Look, you gotta pay him anyway, you're gonna

1082
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: give it with uncle Sam, So why not give it

1083
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,360
Speaker 4: to that individual? So now boom that you get in

1084
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:07,160
Speaker 4: these right up? There's all kinds of things that you

1085
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 4: just got to explored. There's all kinds of things that

1086
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 4: we have to do to work. So I just keep

1087
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 4: grinding to try to get a better position, not just

1088
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: for me, but also.

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00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:15,640
Speaker 2: Those who I love.

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00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 3: So Rome has like thirty jobs over here working network,

1091
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 3: like dude is.

1092
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,439
Speaker 2: He's grinding all the time. He is in the media.

1093
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 3: He's got all types of media ventures. I guess My

1094
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:31,320
Speaker 3: question to you is what other media ventures do you have?

1095
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 3: Are you like my guy right here with twelve jobs,

1096
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 3: what are yours?

1097
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 4: I'm the jack of all trades and master from none.

1098
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 4: I work for I do the Chargers Believe. I do

1099
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 4: the Belief Network, so we're you know, all the Ballet's shows.

1100
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 4: So I'm on that. I work for ninety five to

1101
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,279
Speaker 4: seven a game doing football season. So I do a

1102
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 4: two hour show there, posting a pre show and do

1103
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 4: some radio there, and then I'm buck in the Bay.

1104
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 4: I do work with the Niners. I do some tvkpix,

1105
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,239
Speaker 4: so I do a TV show there, so.

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00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,239
Speaker 2: And I just he kind of is like me, yeah,

1107
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,680
Speaker 2: kind of like that. That's why I like, hey, God,

1108
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: it is Yeah.

1109
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 4: Then I do multi family homes, and I mean commercial

1110
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 4: and residential, so I build and buying dirt lots of

1111
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 4: flip houses. I just buy and sell flip look at

1112
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:19,400
Speaker 4: the house going, put an offer in on and sometimes

1113
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 4: stand at the courthouse and bid on it. Sometimes I

1114
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,319
Speaker 4: get them, sometimes I don't. I developed land. Look at

1115
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 4: I have some commercial land. You know that it was

1116
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 4: I bought an agriculture. Now it's annexed into the city.

1117
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 4: So now it's you know, I went from being aged

1118
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 4: now worth commercial, so now you know, value one up.

1119
00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Gas stations when

1120
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 4: to come. So it's people knocking on the doors and stuff.

1121
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 4: So it's it's it's good. It's good to be one.

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00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: Gas stations in Chick fil A's you never don't may

1123
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:46,560
Speaker 2: call that part.

1124
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 3: Everybody loved Chick fil A. Everybody loved chick They'll work

1125
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: on the Sabbath.

1126
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,040
Speaker 1: And so it's like gas station Chick fil A in

1127
00:48:56,120 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: the publix publics. These these jokers are great. Many Many Storage,

1128
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: you can't go wrong.

1129
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 4: Oh. Many Storage has the best ROI I'm looking at

1130
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 4: I have a piece of land. I'm looking at Many.

1131
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,000
Speaker 4: But there's a guy in town that it scares me

1132
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 4: because there's no overhead. The overhead so long any storage

1133
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 4: is a cash Yeah right, my boys, look at Mississippi,

1134
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:17,280
Speaker 4: look at some other places.

1135
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:17,440
Speaker 2: Man.

1136
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 1: Mobile homes are really good to Yeah, mobile homes, whether

1137
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: you provide them or they bring them in exactly, there's

1138
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: some money out there, brothers.

1139
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 2: Let's go. I'm waiting on y'all. I'm with it. Let's go.

1140
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 2: I'm with it.

1141
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,439
Speaker 1: I'm with Lorenzo Man this is my last question. Man, sure,

1142
00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: I promise. Okay, Well let's give me too good of

1143
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: an answer. Then I'm probably gonna jump back in. I'm sorry, Thomas,

1144
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: like this is me. I love Thomas.

1145
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 2: So it's a man. They were good, but we're good.

1146
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: How who how?

1147
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:53,399
Speaker 4: Who?

1148
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: How how many out? And who've done it? But for

1149
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: what the question is, who is on.

1150
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: Your personal amount rushmore of accomplishment that if poored ins

1151
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: of you to make Lorenzo Neil who he is? You

1152
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: got four and you know it's catered to you however

1153
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 1: you want to do it. But who's on your mount rush?

1154
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:14,959
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1155
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 4: For me watching growing up, I mean my father was

1156
00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 4: he was a minister and my grandparents preaching kid. Yeah,

1157
00:50:22,840 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 4: it was a PK and I was bad, but a

1158
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 4: lot of it. Yeah, you know. Look, Monday was prayer meeting,

1159
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 4: Tuesday was Bible study, Wednesday's brotherhood, Thursday was missionaries. Fridays

1160
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:39,680
Speaker 4: we had young people. Saturdays sometimes every fourth Saturday had

1161
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 4: a Felsh meaning Sunday morning Sunday school, then you had

1162
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 4: worship service. Then Sunday night we had young people. Sunday night,

1163
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 4: then we had the service after young people. So it

1164
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 4: was going to church six days, get it. I remember

1165
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 4: telling my grandma said, Grandma, we go to church so much.

1166
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 4: I think I just rather go to Hell.

1167
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 2: Isn't too much, don't get it too much? Too much,

1168
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 2: I get it. I just want to go ahead too much, Grandma,

1169
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 2: just go ahead? Is too much? Satan way behind me, Satan. No.

1170
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 4: But my mom and dad were great role models, you know,

1171
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 4: married fifty years, lost my father in two thousand and fifteen, sixteen,

1172
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 4: and grandparents many were.

1173
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: They were unbelievable.

1174
00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 4: I think Muhammad Ali what he did, and you know,

1175
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 4: still watching him and growing up watching this guy, you

1176
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,759
Speaker 4: know fight when he thought Larry Holmes, I cried. I

1177
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 4: was a huge boxing guy. Loved it watching you know,

1178
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,839
Speaker 4: like Ray Leonard. But growing up, I mean as far

1179
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 4: as football, believe it or not, was Dan Faux watching

1180
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 4: the Chargers. I loved Danny Falux, the way he backpedaled,

1181
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 4: in the way that he you know, he had Chuck Munty,

1182
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 4: Kellen wins or Charlie joining Westchamn. I was freaking infatuated

1183
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 4: with the Chargers. So got to leave my childhood gream

1184
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: So parents, of course, grandparents and you know, and I

1185
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,880
Speaker 4: think the biggest thing is just to believe.

1186
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 2: I think the.

1187
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 4: Belief in God, just those those values, the moral values

1188
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 4: that you get from your parents, and just about beliefs.

1189
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 4: So I think we're all blessed, and sometimes we don't

1190
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 4: deserve it, but I believe I just choose to believe

1191
00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,719
Speaker 4: in the higher power. And I think that's the reason

1192
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 4: I think that to have success because I try to

1193
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 4: treat people well and try to do the things that

1194
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:20,239
Speaker 4: i'd want people to do to me.

1195
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: But I totally believe it. There it is. I like it.

1196
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:28,879
Speaker 2: You're dealing with your questions. Zip nothing, this is great.

1197
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 2: Zip follow. I mean, you know, I kind of could.

1198
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: I could always say something you could not because Thomas

1199
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 3: is yelling in my ear, like, don't let them speak,

1200
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 3: shut them up.

1201
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,399
Speaker 2: It rap it rap it. It's a rap. It's a rap.

1202
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 2: Oh man.

1203
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 3: Look so thank y'all for listening. Thank you all for

1204
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,320
Speaker 3: tuning low man, I appreciate this great interest. Dog Lorenzo

1205
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 3: O'Neil man, This is dope, man, Thank you all for

1206
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 3: tuning in. Thank you all for listening. Uh, make sure

1207
00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 3: you like, share, subscribe, follow, make sure you go to comment.

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00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:01,120
Speaker 3: Oh I'm sorry, leave a comment five star rating five

1209
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:05,439
Speaker 3: start ready can leave y'all. Tips to share fight fight share,

1210
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 3: like follow. Everyone's like talking to me in my ear

1211
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 3: and I'm trying to get.

1212
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,560
Speaker 2: This without messing on, but totally y'all are killing me

1213
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: right now.

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00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 3: Apple Podcasts, iHeart app. You can get all the information

1215
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,800
Speaker 3: right there. This is the NFL Player Second Act Podcast.

1216
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 2: I'm Peanut.

1217
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 3: That's Ron Pepto Bismo, Peek Harper. That's my guy, Lorenzo O'Neil.

1218
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:27,920
Speaker 3: Hey y'all, thank y'all.

1219
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 2: For tuning in. This has been awesome. This is a

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00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,920
Speaker 2: great week here in LA.

1221
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 3: We're doing our thing in the studios out here LA

1222
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:34,840
Speaker 3: West Coast office.

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Speaker 2: Has been a blast. Thank y'all. We out