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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we are on a Wednesday, Chris Brown,

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Speaker 2: Steve Tasker, One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us, as we have plenty to

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Speaker 2: discuss as we sit directly in the middle of three

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Speaker 2: day mandatory mini camp. Players out on the practice field

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Speaker 2: as we speak, and we'll be getting a little bit

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Speaker 2: deeper into a roster discussion in.

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Speaker 3: Just a second.

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Speaker 2: First day went well, you know, no major issues out there.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's more than a handful of people not

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Speaker 2: participating with little nicks and whatnot, as most teams are

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Speaker 2: taking precautionary approaches to player condition. If they've got the

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Speaker 2: littlest nick, they pretty.

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Speaker 1: Much sit out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, this now is not the time to

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Speaker 3: push things.

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Speaker 1: This is not yeah. I mean, it's mandatory mini camp

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Speaker 1: and everybody's here, but the veterans are I mean they

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Speaker 1: lay low. I mean, and the coaches have the veterans

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Speaker 1: lay low. They let the young guys take extra reps,

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Speaker 1: get better eyes on them, because it's all in that

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Speaker 1: part of the season where you just find trying to

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Speaker 1: find out who you are and what you do well

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Speaker 1: and what you don't do well, and who looks good

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Speaker 1: with who, and combinations and all the chemistry and the

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Speaker 1: pouring one test tube into another and getting different combinations.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we say it all the time, and

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Speaker 1: it's forget. It's got to start sometime, and this is it.

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Speaker 1: When it does start, is when you spend the early

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Speaker 1: part of the season, well, we don't know what we're

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Speaker 1: we don't know who we are yet this is where

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Speaker 1: it all starts.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, there are times where I just think about

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Speaker 2: players on this roster who may not be in an

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Speaker 2: entrenched starting role and are worthy of getting playing time.

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Speaker 2: Like a player for me that comes to mind is

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Speaker 2: like Dorian Williams. He's probably not going to start with

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Speaker 2: Bernard and Milano the only two linebackers usually on the field.

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Speaker 2: But if I'm you know, a defensive coordinator or something,

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Speaker 2: I got a guy like Dorian Williams on my roster.

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Speaker 2: With his athleticism, the production he put up last year

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Speaker 2: in just nine starts, where he still led the team

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Speaker 2: in tackles come season's end with only nine starts, I'm

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Speaker 2: spending the off season devising ways to get him on

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Speaker 2: the field, whether it's a sub package role, something defensively,

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Speaker 2: because somebody that athletic and that fast and that productive

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Speaker 2: should get you got to find a way to get

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Speaker 2: him on the field so he can help you, right,

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Speaker 2: not just playing special teams every week. Yeah, And I

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Speaker 2: wonder how much they get in the lab to try

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Speaker 2: to come up with answers like that.

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Speaker 1: Plus, now at this point of his career, you've seen

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Speaker 1: a ton of him playing. You've seen him play a

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Speaker 1: ton and you know what he brings to the table.

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Speaker 2: Year three for him, and you know what he needed

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Speaker 2: to work on early in his career.

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Speaker 1: You know what he's gotten better at. What he's still

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Speaker 1: not good all that stuff. So you're really confident that

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Speaker 1: he can do a handful of stuff and you know,

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Speaker 1: throw him out and not only do it, but Brown,

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Speaker 1: as you said, he does some of this stuff really well.

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Speaker 2: That guy sees it many triggers, comes down hill like

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Speaker 2: he's there and.

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Speaker 1: He runs when he knows what when he sees the ball,

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Speaker 1: he can get there fast and make a play. That's important, obviously,

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Speaker 1: And I think you're right some of these guys now

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Speaker 1: see in these this three year window. You know where

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Speaker 1: guy's get into their third year historically and they kind

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Speaker 1: of spread their wings and they go And there's a

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Speaker 1: lot of reasons. For one is the coaching staff knows

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Speaker 1: exactly what you are, who you are, and now they've

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Speaker 1: got to handle on how to use you and implement you.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Does anybody anybody else come to mind immediately and your

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Speaker 2: head like, oh, you know what, let's let's give this

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Speaker 1: That's a really good question because.

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Speaker 2: I suppose it's a little well, I should say defensively

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Speaker 2: for me, on offense, there might be somebody like King Kaid.

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Speaker 1: Is always the guy I look at he was, so

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Speaker 1: he was so you know, derailed last year by this injury,

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Speaker 1: and then they're starting to get better. Now third when happened,

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Speaker 1: he's just like total band aids of a season for him.

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Speaker 1: That's one that is really a question. I've always thought,

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Speaker 1: you know what, the tight end room could be more utilized.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you got Alec Anderson out there. They don't

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Speaker 1: even put a tight end out there a lot of times.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, with the sixth offensive.

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Speaker 1: So I've always thought that was a space for a

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Speaker 1: roster spot or a role that real I say, a

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Speaker 1: real tight end. But yeah, a real tight end to

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Speaker 3: That's a that's a worthy choice, I think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said, we're gonna have a deeper

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Speaker 2: conversation about the roster dealing with some young players, and

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Speaker 2: we'll get to that in just a second. But we

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Speaker 2: do have to go around the NFL, which is presented

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Speaker 2: by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 2: Dolphins head coach Mike McDaniel says the coaching staff intention

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Speaker 2: is to be direct about non negotiables. He says, you

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Speaker 2: can't run away from things that need to be fixed.

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Speaker 2: We are not going to live in the gray. We

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Speaker 2: have to be accountable. Ultimately, cultures are people. The football

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Speaker 2: program has to focus on football. McDaniel said that means

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Speaker 2: beyond time, be accountable to each other, follow the rules.

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Speaker 2: It's okay to call someone out. We are in the

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Speaker 2: business of winning football games. I was talking to Steve

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Speaker 2: about this before we got on the air.

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Speaker 1: You had the first thing out of the gate. You

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Speaker 1: said it right.

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Speaker 2: Problem is this, this stuff should have been said, covered, implemented,

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Speaker 2: and instituted.

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Speaker 1: Year one, day one, year one, not year four. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's year four.

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Speaker 3: It's a little late.

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Speaker 2: To put the you know, the toothpaste back in the

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Speaker 2: tube here, Like you had inmates running the asylum down

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Speaker 2: there in Miami last year, not showing up to meetings

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Speaker 2: on time, getting fined, and then still not showing up

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Speaker 2: on time the next week.

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Speaker 1: The thing that I always point to is Vic Fangio

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Speaker 1: getting fired after one year because he coached him home.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he sided, He sided with the play.

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Speaker 1: Sided with the players, and there should have been no discussion.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, and I get it too. I mean, coaches evolve,

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Speaker 1: and Mike McDaniel has he's been a pretty good coach

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Speaker 1: for them. I mean they've although they haven't, you know,

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Speaker 3: They made the playoffs the last two years. They haven't

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Speaker 3: won a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: Right, they made They have won a playoff game in

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Speaker 1: twenty five or thirty years. It's been a minute. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just but you're right, Brown, you hit it right

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Speaker 1: on the head. What did he tell him on day one?

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Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that kind of the message.

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Speaker 3: It's not good. All I know is.

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Speaker 2: Reversing this problem, reversing this trend, which is clearly a problem,

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Speaker 2: because he thought enough to not only address it, but

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Speaker 2: address it publicly to the media, talking about non negotiable

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Speaker 2: to them, right. So it's obviously important because he's expressing

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Speaker 2: it on two fronts, probably with his own team, but

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Speaker 2: then also publicly, almost as a backstop for himself, to say, hey,

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get this corrected, you know, yea, And.

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Speaker 3: To me, that's a problem.

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Speaker 2: And for me that's good news because I have it

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Speaker 2: on the whiteboard.

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Speaker 3: That is one of the top saying it.

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Speaker 1: You finally wrote it on the whiteboard that I remember

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Speaker 1: to Miami, is one of your calls to be one

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Speaker 1: of the teams that implode this year. Take a step back,

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Speaker 1: and they may. This is there's no doubt that this

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Speaker 1: It's a little axe in there, and the inmates are

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Speaker 1: as they please. The strong you know, there is no

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Speaker 1: strong leadership there now. Certainly Mike McDaniel is a good

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Speaker 3: He's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: And I'm thinking that Mike McDaniel is the more along

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Speaker 1: the lines of a like a Marv Levy was When

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Speaker 1: I was there, Marv was a thinker and a talker,

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't a He wasn't an imposing presence like

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Speaker 1: was more of a teacher. Mike McDaniel grass me like this,

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Speaker 1: but he's not. He doesn't his message doesn't resonate the

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Speaker 1: way Marv used to resonate, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Right, And I think the other thing that that held

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Speaker 2: Marv to a great degree was there was strong internal

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Speaker 3: And that is sorely lacking.

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Speaker 1: And that's what Miami, because that's the difference between McDaniel

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Speaker 1: and Marv. Marv would go to the best players on

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Speaker 1: going to be you're gonna be back my play or else.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was like, listen, we need you. And

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Speaker 1: with his leadership style and his message, and he was

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Speaker 1: He was a you know, he's a Harvard grad, you know,

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Speaker 1: goes down that line. But my goodness, it's.

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Speaker 2: Year four and the problem here is he does not

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Speaker 2: to enforce the message. Toront Armstead was his best leader

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Speaker 2: on the offensive side of the ball, a guy that

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Speaker 2: then on defense, one of your most respected players was

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Speaker 2: Javon Holland and he signed elsewhere in free agency. And

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Speaker 2: then you also have loose cannons like Jalen Ramsey and

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Speaker 2: as we know, but you know there are two of

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Speaker 2: the better players, but are they reliable as leaders? Heck

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Speaker 2: to the no, right, they got big problems.

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Speaker 1: There and Marv and you know, probably people are I know,

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Speaker 1: I raised a bunch of eyebrows when I used Marv

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Speaker 1: Levy and Mike McDaniel in the same sentence. But there's

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Speaker 1: you know, there's presence, physical presence, and their background. And

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Speaker 1: Marv was a professional coach. He was not a player

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Speaker 1: like McDaniel, you know. So it there's multiple ways to

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Speaker 1: be an outstanding coach in the NFL. You do not

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Speaker 1: have to be a former player, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: But you got to be a good coach and a

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Speaker 1: great teacher, and you got to lead a bunch of

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Speaker 1: way to do it. Marv was masterful at it. Mike McDaniel,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that has been an void from at least

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Speaker 2: So you let us know what you think. At eight

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Speaker 2: h three oh five point fifty one eighty eight, five

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Speaker 2: point fifty two, five fifty those are the phone numbers.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna stay away from the obvious ones because I'm

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Speaker 2: anticipating that we'll get that from some of the listeners

442
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Speaker 2: and callers. But there's a respectable list here, and I'm

443
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Speaker 2: wondering which one. There's a part of me that sits

444
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Speaker 2: on the other side of this, and I'm kind of wondering,

445
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Speaker 2: like who who is going to have a tough time,

446
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Speaker 2: maybe even tougher this year than last year. And guys

447
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Speaker 2: that immediately come to mind are people like Dwayne Carter

448
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Speaker 2: and Javon Solomon because of all the ads that have

449
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,879
Speaker 2: been made on the defensive line, Like, you know, they

450
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 2: finished their rookie season, you know, they get to the offseason,

451
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: they came a couple of weeks off, They're like, all right,

452
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Speaker 2: body's feeling good again, Let's start training because I'm gonna

453
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Speaker 2: kill it. In year or two, they draft three defensive linemen,

454
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Speaker 2: signed three more in free agency, and it's like, ooh.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this too. And a lot of it is

456
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Speaker 1: about opportunity. I know Sean McDermott sat in front of

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Speaker 1: the media yesterday and he says, listen, we don't care

458
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Speaker 1: young or we don't care. You play if you earn it.

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Speaker 1: I don't care if it's your first year ever in

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Speaker 1: playing football. If you earn a spot, you're gonna play.

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Speaker 1: And I know that over the last couple of years,

462
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Speaker 1: the Bill's offensive line has been stellar and it's been

463
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Speaker 1: solid and very unstable. I mean, nobody's gotten hurt. We

464
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Speaker 1: lost Spencer Brown for one game last year and he

465
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Speaker 1: was back in the lineup and they never missed a snap.

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Speaker 1: But you look at a guy like Tyland Grable, this

467
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Speaker 1: will be his second year. He came out of nowhere

468
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Speaker 1: last year and earned the swing tackle job over vander

469
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Speaker 1: Mark who Vandermark's a highly regarded backup. I mean he'd

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Speaker 1: start for some teams.

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Speaker 3: His business fourth year here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, And Tyland Grable was there at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the season. He had the surgery stuff that you know,

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Speaker 1: this could be a guy that you could pull out

475
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Speaker 1: of the bin, you know, out of the bit of

476
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Speaker 1: these players and say, you know, this guy, there's something

477
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Speaker 1: there that caused him to be really highly thought of

478
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Speaker 1: coming out of his very first NFL training camp. But

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Speaker 1: then he was, you know, the injuries got him. That's

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Speaker 1: a guy that I could say that would be my pick,

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Speaker 1: but I'm not going to because I you know, the

482
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Speaker 1: offensive line is so stable.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and guys are pretty entrenched in their starting role.

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Speaker 1: But if there is a somebody goes down, Yeah, all

485
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Speaker 1: of a sudden, front and center Presto changing.

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Speaker 2: Although I don't think he's a lock to be the

487
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Speaker 2: swing tackle again because vander Mark is still here. There

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Speaker 2: will be a competition, and you heard the coaches say

489
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Speaker 2: last week every position's open to competition, So you can't

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Speaker 2: quite mark him down in ink and just assume he's

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Speaker 2: gonna have that role again this year, especially if Vandermark's

492
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Speaker 2: made some improvements to his game and outperforms him. So

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Speaker 2: we'll have to see as we move into training camp

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Speaker 2: in the preseason. Eighth three oh five point fifty one

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Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two, five fifty. Those are the

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Speaker 2: numbers to jump on board. Kevin and Hamburg will lead

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Speaker 2: us off when we return here on one Pills Live

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Speaker 2: presented by coliud of Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Which

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Speaker 2: second year Bills player are you expecting to take the

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Speaker 2: biggest leap in twenty twenty five?

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Speaker 3: That is the question we pose to you.

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Speaker 2: You let us know what you think at eight oh

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty. Phone lines are open for you there and

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Speaker 2: leading us off today is Kevin and Hamburg.

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Speaker 3: What do you got first? Kevin?

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Speaker 4: Hey, Hi, doing guys, thanks for taking my call. I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna say to answer your Twitter question, the biggest leap

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Speaker 4: where will be our own buffalo Joe Andreas. He'll be

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Speaker 4: a second year. He'll be a second year with Bobby Babbage.

511
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Speaker 4: You'll have much more experience together. And I think he

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Speaker 4: could take the biggest leap possibly. So he's my he my.

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Speaker 2: Guy, all right, But do you I mean, he's not

514
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 2: cracking the starting lineup, you know with Bernard and Milano there,

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Speaker 2: So where do you see that revealing itself?

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Speaker 3: Special teams or what do you.

517
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Speaker 4: Maybe whatever they need them in if they have to

518
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Speaker 4: be like what they call it, gopher, like a like

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00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 4: a gopher guy with something like that. Yeah, maybe throwing

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00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: what team a good well, you know, if you're working

521
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Speaker 4: at a job or a gopher like in the beginning

522
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Speaker 4: sort of like that, do whatever they need you to do.

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Speaker 1: That's what he's doing. Now.

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean maybe special team they could put him in,

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Speaker 4: maybe block a punt or you know something like that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay, well there you go.

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Speaker 3: Fair enough. Kevin didn't set you off there.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, gopher is not an improvement for Joe.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he would like to do a little

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Speaker 3: more than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I'm and I say this too, Joe's

532
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 1: a great kid. I mean, I'm what a story. I mean,

533
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Speaker 1: like two years before he was on the team, he

534
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: was watching from the stands, and it's and he's total buffalo.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'll just I just love the fact that

536
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: the guy's on the team and he played well played,

537
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: he was on teams, running, he was active for games,

538
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Speaker 1: the whole thing. It was just great to see got

539
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 1: in some games and mop up time, made some tackles.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't. And I'll say this too, it's not just

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Speaker 1: that he was a good story, because I know McDermott

542
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Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean, I mean, heck, Terry Pagoula, they don't

543
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Speaker 1: do stuff like that. You don't. You don't get a

544
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Speaker 1: stay if you don't deserve it.

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Speaker 3: And Joe does no favoritism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't do it because it's a good story. Yeah,

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00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: so good stuff on Joe Andrees and it was. It's

548
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Speaker 1: kind of it is a fun story to think about

549
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: even now, no matter how it turns. It's a little

550
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Speaker 1: bit like Vince Papali, you know, for the old Philadelphia

551
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: guy playing kid ears for them, you know, watching from

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Speaker 1: the stands one year and the next year he's on

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Speaker 1: the field. It's it's pretty fun.

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Speaker 3: Let's go to Corey down in Arkansas. Next, what do

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Speaker 3: you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Corey?

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Speaker 3: Corey, you're there. I'm gonna put him on hold and

558
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Speaker 3: see if he can find his phone. And we go

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Speaker 3: to Isy in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Next.

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Speaker 3: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Is he?

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Speaker 6: Hey?

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Speaker 7: Guys? Dion Coleman ke Coleman. Okay, all right, I think

565
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Speaker 7: you know he's I think last year he was a

566
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Speaker 7: little bit confused and he was hurt. But I think

567
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Speaker 7: he's gonna understand more. If he's such a big target,

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Speaker 7: I think that's going to be, uh, you know, a

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Speaker 7: big improvement this year.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Like you are you expecting like more of everything,

571
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: catches yards, touchdowns like that's kind of across the board?

572
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Speaker 3: Or is there one area?

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Speaker 7: I think, especially inside the twenty in the red zone?

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Speaker 7: His size is guy to help him out quite a bit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we saw go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: No, I've said, being with the wide receivers that we

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Speaker 7: have now, I think he's going to pick up a lot.

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, thanks?

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? He You saw it a couple of times last year.

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Speaker 1: You saw it in the Seattle game when he went

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Speaker 1: one side and it was incomplete, and he kept telling

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Speaker 1: Josh to throw it higher, and then they would go

586
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Speaker 1: to the other side, same matchup, and he brings it

587
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Speaker 1: down and uh, tap the dB on the head and

588
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Speaker 1: got him. And then he went up in the back

589
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Speaker 1: of the inZone. I forget who the opponent was. Was

590
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Speaker 1: the Jets here where he went up and Jim threw it,

591
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 1: looked and it was.

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00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 3: Josh threw it. He was targeting Ty Johnson and then

593
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 3: Keon j came in there and jumped over everybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: thirty Indians vertical helps.

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Speaker 1: Those are yeah, those are plays that you can utilize.

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00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: The skill you can utilize down there. And I get it,

597
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Speaker 1: but it's it's I don't know who did it, but

598
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 1: somewhere along the line we all got somebody gave people

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Speaker 1: the idea that the goal line fade it is a

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Speaker 1: viable option. And it's not to me. You don't like

601
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Speaker 1: that player, No, it's too difficult to execute and it's

602
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: too easy to defend, even though it looks hard. And

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Speaker 1: the only time you ever see it is when the

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Speaker 1: guy catches it. You don't see the twenty five other

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Speaker 1: times around the League on the afternoon where the guys

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Speaker 1: you know we got looks like a dope trying to

607
00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,719
Speaker 1: catch it, right. I mean, you know teams throw that

608
00:31:55,760 --> 00:32:01,959
Speaker 1: thing twenty five times a week. One every two weeks

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Speaker 1: is caught.

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Speaker 3: We'll tell us how you really feel, Steve.

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Speaker 1: So it's hard. It's hard. It's hard play. And I

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Speaker 1: get it. If you got Calvin Johnson, that there it

613
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,239
Speaker 1: is right there, there's the one see that. I mean

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Speaker 1: that didn't even look you know, like you the quintessential

615
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 1: fade route to the corner. But everybody thinks, yeah, yeah,

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00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: you see these highlights. That's all he sees that. It's

617
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 1: like home runs. You never see the ten strikeouts the

618
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: guy got. You see the one swing that goes, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it goes four hundred and eighty five feet over the wall.

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00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,240
Speaker 1: You know, nobody sees the six other at bats with

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Speaker 1: a guy you know couldn't get the bat off his shoulder. Yeah,

622
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: So I'm yeah. Goal line passing plays are about space,

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it is a quarterback gunning it

624
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Speaker 1: in or just putting a dart on a guy or

625
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: high in the back of the end zone, not in

626
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Speaker 1: the corner of the end zone. So I get it.

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Speaker 1: We're all kind of in love with that because it

628
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Speaker 1: looks so easy and so beautiful.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so skillful. I feel like we need to have

630
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Speaker 2: you do a dissertation on this play.

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Speaker 1: What I'm telling you, man, you just watch, just watch

632
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,719
Speaker 1: the watch games. Nobody can do it because the dbs

633
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: are too good and it's too hard to do it.

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Speaker 3: All right, that's fair. Look, you won't get an argument

635
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 3: for me.

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Speaker 1: Like I say, you'll see one executed, but you never

637
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Speaker 1: see that. Thousands of them that.

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Speaker 2: Look fail more awfully. Yeah, they don't even look okay. Yeah,

639
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 2: So I will say this about Coleman. He's clearly added

640
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 2: some more lean muscle mass to his frame. His legs

641
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: look more muscular. Like I mean, he came in and

642
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: he was a specimen last year as a rookie, but

643
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: I think he has benefited greatly from an NFL offseason

644
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: conditioning program and he looks even more muscular and stronger

645
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 2: this year.

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Speaker 1: There's been a couple of guys this year. There's been

647
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys that have shown up that have

648
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Speaker 1: that are like, oh, he looks a little different, and

649
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: you get it every year. But like Greg Russeau, you

650
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 1: mentioned it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we saw him in the cafeteria. I said, how

652
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Speaker 3: much did you add?

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Speaker 1: He looks, all, you'll about six to eight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes, you know, I'm trying to look like

655
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Speaker 2: you guys. I was like, yeah, dude, I'm at the

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Speaker 2: other end of the genie pool.

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Speaker 3: Pal You're you're hilarious.

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Speaker 1: You're a funny guy. But yeah, that's it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: these these guys do turn and I don't know whether

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Speaker 1: I don't know what NIL is going to do to

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Speaker 1: the college ranks where they start paying the schools are

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Speaker 1: going to pay these guys all that stuff. But in

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Speaker 1: the pro ranks, you get in there and guys realize

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Speaker 1: they got nothing else to do except get better. That's

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Speaker 1: their job now. And in the off season, some of

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Speaker 1: these guys, not all of them, but a good amount

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Speaker 1: of them take it very seriously. So you get guys

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Speaker 1: coming back going he look at that guy. You know,

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Speaker 1: you see it, and it's impressive when every time you

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Speaker 1: see it happen, it's like, wow, that is that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: Because everybody knows how hard it is to change your

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Speaker 1: own body, lose five pounds whatever. These guys transformed themselves

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Speaker 1: and it's it is impressive.

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Speaker 2: Which second year player is going to make the biggest

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Speaker 2: lead for the Bills in twenty twenty five eight h

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Speaker 2: three zero five point fifty won eighty eight five point

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Speaker 2: fifty two five point fifty the numbers to join us

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Speaker 2: or you could hit us up on the tweet sheet

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Speaker 2: at one Bill's Live and we're going to crack the

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Speaker 2: tweet sheet open now, which is brought to you by

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Speaker 2: Corgan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company of the.

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bills, and Jacob on the tweet sheet says Javon.

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Speaker 2: Solomon will lead the team in sacks this year. He

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Speaker 2: had some spot duty and some mop up games last year.

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Speaker 2: I remember against Jacksonville in the Monday night game Week three,

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Speaker 2: which was forty seven to ten. He had a sax

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Speaker 2: strip fumble in that game, and I think he had

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Speaker 2: another couple of sacks through the course of the year

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Speaker 2: and some of the other games that were decided to

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Speaker 2: come the midway point of the fourth quarter, and you know,

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Speaker 2: showed some nice bursts. You were very high on him

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Speaker 2: as a rookie. He's got th He led the nation

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Speaker 2: in sacks with sixteen.

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Speaker 1: Got some ability, There's no question about it. I was

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Speaker 1: very high I still am. I still like him. We

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Speaker 1: had a chance to chit chat with him for like

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds during the off season. Articulate kid, and you

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Speaker 1: can tell his lights are on, you know. I mean,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's gonna pay dividends. I think he's

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Speaker 1: gonna pay dividends this year.

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Speaker 2: But now he finds himself in a deeper pool of talent,

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Speaker 2: you know. And you know he was a fifth round

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Speaker 2: draft choice. Now he finds a third round draft choice

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Speaker 2: lining up at the same position along with a veteran,

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Speaker 2: a proven veteran, and Joey Bosa.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, you still got Rousseau and Epanessa here.

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Speaker 2: So it's a it's a crowded room right now, and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna have to fight and claw just to get

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Speaker 2: snaps even in a rotational system.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it'll be interesting. Yeah, things have changed on

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Speaker 1: that side of the ball. Up front. There is a

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Speaker 1: youth movement a foot through the draft.

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Speaker 3: And he's a young player.

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Speaker 1: That's part of that, and he's part of it. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you can look at the guys like like

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Speaker 1: most notably a j and Rousseau, AJ Panessa. Those are

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Speaker 1: the guys that now that have are been like the seam.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true. This seem like they're

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Speaker 1: the longest tenured guys on the roster that have been

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Speaker 1: at the highest level, right. I think those guys are

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Speaker 1: probably feeling as much pressure to perform as anybody you know.

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Speaker 1: They've got.

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Speaker 3: I even mentioned Michael Hoyt.

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Speaker 1: They're big, Yeah, they're big. They've got good sized contracts,

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Speaker 1: not elite contracts, but big contracts. You get a guy

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Speaker 1: like Landon Jackson and Javon Solomon coming in and playing

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Speaker 1: extremely on getting better, I mean you have and it's

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Speaker 1: not like aj Panessa and Groot have put out astrachnomical

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Speaker 1: astronomical numbers so that there's no way Solomon could ever

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Speaker 1: get there. But listen, land and Jackson, Javon Solomon, those

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Speaker 1: are guys that you put them on the field, they

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Speaker 1: may get you eight and a half sacks, and that's

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Speaker 1: right where Epanessa and Russo have been eight and a

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Speaker 1: half sacks.

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Speaker 2: And I would say the best part of Solomon's game

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Speaker 2: are his hands.

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Speaker 3: He's got his hand.

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Speaker 2: First of all, they're huge, they're like ten and a

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Speaker 2: half inches. Second of all, they're very heavy, which what

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Speaker 2: that term means heavy hands. That means they're very capable

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Speaker 2: of driving an offensive tackle off his spot because they

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Speaker 2: con jolt them with heavy hands. And he obviously has

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Speaker 2: good leverage because he's built a little lower to the

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Speaker 2: ground than your typical defensive ends that you see in

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Speaker 2: Bill's uniforms. I mean, he does not fit the six

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Speaker 2: four two sixty plus profile that they usually target in

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Speaker 2: the draft or even in free agency. There's a lot

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Speaker 2: of taller guys in that room him.

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Speaker 1: He also seems to be really explosive off coming off

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Speaker 1: the edge. I mean, I don't know what his first

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Speaker 1: step is like, but man, when he gets up into

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Speaker 1: the backfield trying to work on a tackle, he has

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Speaker 1: got some quick feet and some lateral ability, so the

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Speaker 1: tackle's really got to be balanced or where he's going

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Speaker 1: to get beat. Yeah. I noticed him immediately. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I remember I was like, who's that guy? You know,

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Speaker 1: because I saw him. Do you know one thing I

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Speaker 1: can't remember? He's put together. He is, He's thick. He's

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Speaker 1: built a lot like Vaughn was, thick from the waist down,

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Speaker 1: you know, strong up top. But you know he's he's

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Speaker 1: got to put it all together. But he's that's a

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Speaker 1: good that's a good call from Jacob on the tweet sheet.

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Speaker 1: John Solomon's got a chance, he really does, particularly and

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, Brownie. I think it's a wide

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Speaker 1: open competition a defensive end.

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Speaker 3: We have to step aside here for a break.

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Speaker 2: But still taking your phone calls at eight oh three

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Speaker 2: oh five fifty one eighty eight eight five fifty two

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Speaker 2: five fifty, you tell us which second year Bill's player

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Speaker 2: you're expecting to take the biggest leap here in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Your phone calls next here on one Bill's

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Speaker 8: It's Buffalo Bill's Radio.

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Speaker 3: Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris brownsity tasker with you talking about second year Bills

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Speaker 2: players you think might take the biggest leap in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty five. Give us your top answer there at eight

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Speaker 2: oh three oh five fifty one eighty eight five fifty

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Speaker 2: two five point fifty. Back to the phones, we go

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Speaker 2: into Alli, who's out in Denver?

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Speaker 3: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 9: Alley?

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Speaker 10: What do you hey there? Fellas? I uh, you know,

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Speaker 10: thinking about my player, I really think cold Bishop is

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Speaker 10: going to take a leap. I think, you know, the

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Speaker 10: way our defense run safety is such a cerebral position,

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Speaker 10: and you know, he he's a hell of an athlete,

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Speaker 10: but I think it takes a little bit of time

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Speaker 10: to kind of get it in your bones. And I

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Speaker 10: just I really, I really think, you know, we don't

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Speaker 10: have a ton of depths behind him. I think he's

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Speaker 10: got ample opportunity to get on the field, and I

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Speaker 10: just I feel really good. I was talking to one

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Speaker 10: of my buddies about him the other day. I just

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Speaker 10: I feel like he's going to be a real difference maker.

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Speaker 10: I think he flashed towards the end of last year,

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Speaker 10: and if we can keep him healthy, I really think

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Speaker 10: this guy's the limit for Cole.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I like that.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for the call, Ali, And look, Bobby Babbage when

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Speaker 2: he spoke to the media last week, he kind of

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Speaker 2: reminded everybody. Bishop missed pretty much all of training camp

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Speaker 2: last year with that scapul injury that he had in

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Speaker 2: his back, took a helmet in the back during an

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Speaker 2: early practice and was on the sidelines pretty much until

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Speaker 2: the end of training camp and maybe halfway through the preseason.

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Speaker 2: I think he only played him one preseason game maybe,

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Speaker 2: and then the guy's got to step on the field

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Speaker 2: pretty early, Like he got on the field in Miami

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Speaker 2: and early in the season, you know, week two, what

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Speaker 2: was that Thursday night game with no training camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: obviously he had to start in week five at Houston,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's gonna remember, you know, he made a mistake

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Speaker 2: there in coverage because Rasul Douglas is expecting inside help

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Speaker 2: and he didn't provided and Nico Collins is in the

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00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 2: end zone for a long touchdown. So he had some

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Speaker 2: hard lessons last year, but partly it was because he

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Speaker 2: didn't have a run up to his rookie season with reps.

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, it's easy to for us to also if

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Speaker 1: you take you take his physical abilities, you know, which

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Speaker 1: is when you get drafted in the second round like

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Speaker 1: he did, you take kind of go those as a

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Speaker 1: given right. So he's got the physical abilities to do.

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Speaker 1: A good athlete. In fact, that was the word coming

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Speaker 1: out of him on him coming out of college, was

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Speaker 1: he really good athlete. And you put that into a

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Speaker 1: year under his belt in the defense, a little continuity

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Now he comes back and he's

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Speaker 1: kind of picking up where he left off knowledge wise

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Speaker 1: and experience wise, you would think that it would start

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Speaker 1: to pay huge dividends because in a lot of people's opinions,

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Speaker 1: that's what the Bills missed out there last year, didn't

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Speaker 1: Damar wasn't as good athlete as they would have liked

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Speaker 1: to have had. They wanted the guys faster, big or strong, whatever,

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Speaker 1: and Bishop is that. So it's easy to see a

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Speaker 1: path for Bishop to get on the field. And if

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Speaker 1: he's on the field as a starter and from week one,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be kind of easy to label

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Speaker 1: it right away as that's the breakout guy.

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Speaker 2: So that was a good choice by Ali there. But

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Speaker 2: we go to Brian in Alden next. What's up Brian?

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Speaker 11: Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call here. Sounds like

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Speaker 11: the easy choice. But I think it's going to be

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Speaker 11: Keyon Coleman, and I think it's going to be him

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Speaker 11: because I see a change in passing scheme this year.

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Speaker 11: You got rid of Hollin, Sue is a great blocker.

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Speaker 11: You brought in more and Palmer who are more separator guys,

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Speaker 11: and I think we're going to see a little bit

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Speaker 11: more spread formations. Were they going to be able to

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Speaker 11: move Keyon around in formations rather than just right relegating

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Speaker 11: to the X spot last year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't rule that out. That could obviously happen.

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Speaker 2: I know there were a lot of Bill's fans last

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Speaker 2: year hoping to see him get some time in the slot,

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Speaker 2: where he had a good deal of success at Florida

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Speaker 2: State in the year he played for them down there,

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Speaker 2: they lined him up inside and against smaller corners. He

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Speaker 2: kind of had their way with them, as you might expect.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean, they are required to learn all

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Speaker 2: the receiver positions, so it wouldn't shock me if they

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Speaker 2: move him around a little bit more. I believe a

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Speaker 2: lot of that last year was rooted in the fact

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Speaker 2: that let's not put too much on his plate within

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Speaker 2: the scope of a game plan, and let's work him outside.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, the end, you know, the only downside of

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Speaker 1: it is in your own assumptions. If more and Palmer

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Speaker 1: on the field, they're not taking Khali Shakir off the field, right,

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Speaker 1: So you've got to put if you're gonna get Coleman

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Speaker 1: on the field, you got to put four wides on

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Speaker 1: or take somebody off.

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Speaker 3: So now you're taking a tight end or maybe even

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00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 3: a running back off.

873
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: Right, it's a crowded room and wide receiver. This year

874
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: like it was not last year. But you're right. I mean,

875
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: Keon's got some gifts those other guys don't have. They've

876
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: got a pedigree that he doesn't have, or at least

877
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: a resume that he doesn't have experience. Yeah, that'll be

878
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: interesting to see what the pecking order turns into during

879
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 1: training camp. If Keon can elevate through that and get

880
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:39,880
Speaker 1: on the field ahead of Elijah Moore or Jordan Palmer

881
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,280
Speaker 1: or Josh Palmer or even Curtis Samuel or Curtis Samuel,

882
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 1: it's a crowded room. It seems like there's a lot

883
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: of talent in that room that the that we know

884
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: about now, there was talent in there last year. We

885
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:56,479
Speaker 1: didn't know about it at this point. Yeah, so I'm yeah,

886
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 1: I Keon could be the guy. In fact, you'd love

887
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,880
Speaker 1: to see it, because if he is, that means he

888
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,400
Speaker 1: is really elevated. You know, that's a big step for him.

889
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:10,799
Speaker 2: I think we all kind of felt like his game

890
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 2: was just reaching critical mass and then the injury happens

891
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 2: against the Dolphins and he misses a month of time.

892
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 2: It was really costly for him last year. Hopefully he

893
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: can stay on the field and stay healthy. More importantly,

894
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 2: for the entire seventeen game run this regular season. Got

895
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 2: to take a break here. When we come back, our

896
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: number two is going to begin with ESPN National NFL

897
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 2: analyst Ben Solak had some interesting thoughts on some second

898
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 2: year players, including Kean.

899
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 3: Coleman among others.

900
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: Also had some bold predictions for the twenty twenty five

901
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 2: NFL season. We'll go over some of those with him

902
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,080
Speaker 2: next here on One Bill's Live presented by Coal Out

903
00:46:47,120 --> 00:47:30,360
Speaker 2: of Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. This One Bill's Live

904
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:35,080
Speaker 2: presented by Calllida Health. All right, second hour here on

905
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 2: a Wednesday, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you, and.

906
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,400
Speaker 3: As we said, please to welcome in.

907
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,920
Speaker 2: At this time ESPN National NFL analysts been Solac joining us.

908
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 2: Has been busy compiling some thoughts, some predictions perhaps for

909
00:47:51,239 --> 00:47:54,480
Speaker 2: the upcoming twenty twenty five season. Also did some stuff

910
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 2: on some second year players, and we want to dive

911
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 2: into that as well, because he did mention a Buffalo

912
00:47:59,120 --> 00:47:59,919
Speaker 2: Bill in that list.

913
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:00,839
Speaker 3: Ben, how you doing?

914
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 2: First of all, thanks for the time and uh well, second,

915
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 2: I have to say in that write up where you

916
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:11,799
Speaker 2: had a long and wide ranging stream of consciousness in

917
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,399
Speaker 2: terms of what you're anticipating for twenty twenty five. This one,

918
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,399
Speaker 2: uh And I think I heard you mentioned this before,

919
00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: so I wasn't shocked by it, but it still makes

920
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: me think about, you know, the job that this front

921
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: office does. Here you said, I think the single best

922
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: move in the off season, barn On, without question, all

923
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 2: things considered, was the Bill somehow signing Khalil Shakir to

924
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 2: a four year deal worth only thirteen and a quarter

925
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: million per year, which you equated to Darnell Mooney money.

926
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,360
Speaker 2: I still can't believe it. Shakira is going to have

927
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,080
Speaker 2: his first one thousand yard season in twenty twenty five.

928
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: I think we all on the surface felt it was

929
00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 2: a team friendly deal. But what has you like throwing

930
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,239
Speaker 2: in seven qualifiers and still calling it the most unbelievable

931
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 2: thing you've seen this offseason.

932
00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 6: Well, it's because the off season so wideing, and you

933
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,719
Speaker 6: have drafts and you have moves you have picked, you

934
00:49:02,719 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 6: have trades, you have free agents, so, like everything considered,

935
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 6: I just still can't get my head around it. The

936
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 6: Rams signed two to Well for one year, eleven million

937
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 6: dollars to be like a field stretching wide receiver three

938
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 6: who will occasionally go games without a target without a catch.

939
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 6: Right the Jaguars one year, ten million dollars down me

940
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 6: brown to be the same thing. Right, A field stretching

941
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 6: wide receiver three Khalilsrakre will lead the Bills and targets

942
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 6: like multiple games this season. And of course the the

943
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 6: apy is a little bit bigger. But you got him

944
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 6: for four years, you have him under team control, and

945
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,719
Speaker 6: so if he has highly productive seasons he has at

946
00:49:34,719 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 6: one thousand yard season, then he might come back and say, hey,

947
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,279
Speaker 6: I want to pay bump. You know, I want more

948
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 6: than Darnel moonin money, and he'd be right to do so.

949
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 6: But there are going to be plenty of games this

950
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,480
Speaker 6: season against you know, AFCAS contenders, against AFC contenders in

951
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,400
Speaker 6: the playoffs, in which Shakira is the primary pass catcher

952
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 6: for the Bills, and that primary pass catcher for most

953
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 6: elite offenses these days runs you up thirty million dollars

954
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 6: and for the Bills at ran thirteen, that's just excuse me,

955
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 6: that's just p He's on the dollars. Unbelievable.

956
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's I get it as well, because I

957
00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: was a doubter of him when the Bills drafted him.

958
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was going to be athletic enough.

959
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know if he was going to catch the

960
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: ball well enough. Certainly his hands have proven to be elite,

961
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,319
Speaker 1: and his athleticism changed the direction, and in particular his

962
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:23,400
Speaker 1: run after catch I think has been not just above average,

963
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,960
Speaker 1: but better than that, if not elite. So, yes, how

964
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 1: have you seen like? And I get it? We all

965
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 1: talk about this. The Bills tend to do this with

966
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 1: guys they really like in their in their team that

967
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 1: they have drafted Matt Mulano, Tarren Johnson, Khalil Shakir, Spencer Brown,

968
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: AJ Panessa, Greg Russou. They get him early, and they

969
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: get him for good money, not great money. And that's

970
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 1: great to philosophy, you know, to have that as philosophy.

971
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 1: But the Bills have gotten it done. How is that

972
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: possible when other teams you see him jump up and

973
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: pay like one of your big money deals to other guys.

974
00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 6: So I think we throw the word culture around a bunch,

975
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 6: and I think it can be confusing to figure out

976
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 6: what exactly culture means sometimes. But when I see a

977
00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:13,799
Speaker 6: team that's really good at extending their players before their

978
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 6: current contrasts, Expire still add a competitive market value even

979
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 6: if I, like I say, I still think they're getting,

980
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 6: you know, really good returns relative to what a Shakir

981
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,320
Speaker 6: like player might get from another team or what Shaquiir

982
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 6: might himself get in the open market. Like to me,

983
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,759
Speaker 6: that that's culture. That's that's Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott

984
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 6: being in consistent discourse with Shakir. With Rousseau, I thought

985
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 6: the We're so deal was a really good deal for

986
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 6: the team. With Spencer Brown, with with Toron Johnson, with

987
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: Treel Bernard and saying listen, we're gonna get you done.

988
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 6: We're planning on doing it in this summer. We're you know,

989
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 6: we want to get to this figure like this is

990
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 6: what the linebacker market is. We want to keep you

991
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 6: in the building. You know, we want to make this right.

992
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 6: How can we structure this? It gets you gets your

993
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:49,320
Speaker 6: money now, it gets you job security. You know, you

994
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 6: know you can stay in Buffalo for forever. You know

995
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:52,920
Speaker 6: what you're gonna be making the next four or five years.

996
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,880
Speaker 6: The Eagles do this right where when it's try Roseman,

997
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 6: we talk a lot more about the like the analytics

998
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 6: of it all and the oh, you know, beat the

999
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,280
Speaker 6: market and it's gonna be good value for your long term.

1000
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 6: But there's still a culture aspect of it with Jeffrey Lauren,

1001
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 6: with Nick Sorianni, where it's you are one of our guys,

1002
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 6: we drafted you, we developed you, were going to take

1003
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,880
Speaker 6: care of you before we go handle, you know, signing

1004
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 6: other big free agents who would eat into your snap count,

1005
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 6: eat into your target share, and so on and so forth.

1006
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:17,880
Speaker 6: So to me, it's a culture thing. It is a

1007
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,440
Speaker 6: decision that is made by the leading deciding figures of

1008
00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 6: this team that we are going to invest in the

1009
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 6: homegrown talent that we have, We're going to do it

1010
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,000
Speaker 6: earlier than we have to, and these are going to

1011
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,040
Speaker 6: be the corner stones around which we build our team.

1012
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: And with that culture in mind, James Cook kind of

1013
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 2: defies what everybody anticipated was going to happen this week.

1014
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,799
Speaker 2: Everybody expected he would not report to mandatory mini camp,

1015
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:40,759
Speaker 2: and even if he did, he would kind of do

1016
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: the hold in type thing that we've seen used as

1017
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 2: a popular tactic for a lot of players over the

1018
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:48,400
Speaker 2: last several years, more in training camp than say mandatory

1019
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 2: mini camp. And of all the big names yesterday he

1020
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:53,839
Speaker 2: was kind of one of the only guys to show up,

1021
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins being the other and participated fully. What kind

1022
00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 2: of sign do you believe that portends for this this

1023
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: scenario and how it may ultimately play out. Do you

1024
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 2: interpret it as a sign that perhaps there are some

1025
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 2: discussions going on and maybe things have gotten along far enough,

1026
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,360
Speaker 2: or do you think it's something different completely.

1027
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,319
Speaker 6: So, I think it is as James Cook himself said,

1028
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 6: which is I like my money right, I'm not trying

1029
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 6: to take fines from missing mandatory mini camp when you

1030
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 6: know he's not been on the biggest contract as a

1031
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 6: second round pick at running back over the last three

1032
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 6: now four years of his career. So to me, the

1033
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,160
Speaker 6: clear reason is because he didn't want to take the fines. Now,

1034
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 6: I do think that if he and the Bills were

1035
00:53:41,560 --> 00:53:45,560
Speaker 6: a mile apart and negotiations were toxic and things weren't

1036
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 6: going well, you could have seen him, I think more

1037
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 6: likely to hold in and hold in like a show

1038
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 6: up and then and not participate, see him not come

1039
00:53:52,080 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 6: at all and start demanding trade this, that and the

1040
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 6: other thing. So I do think it's a good sign.

1041
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 6: I just don't think it's like, oh, he's there because

1042
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 6: an extension is coming tomorrow. I think it's more so

1043
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 6: the fine thing I talked a lot about, you know,

1044
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,720
Speaker 6: the the goodness of extending these these young players. Running

1045
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 6: Back is a position is the exception to the rule,

1046
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 6: because when you're a running back and you have a

1047
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 6: good season, you have to try to get paid immediately

1048
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 6: because the moment you get a little bit banged up,

1049
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,359
Speaker 6: the moment Ray Davis starts to look a little bit good,

1050
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 6: like your value just just plummets. That that position is

1051
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 6: so frail for the top of the market that when

1052
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: you are in your mid twenties and you're off of

1053
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 6: a great season, you gotta gotta gotta get paid right

1054
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:29,880
Speaker 6: then because the game fall apart so quickly. And so

1055
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 6: I think that their approach is generally good. I think

1056
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 6: just running back is a hard position to get that

1057
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 6: done at because of the nature of the position.

1058
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, is that changing? Is the market for the running

1059
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: backs changing the value? I mean because you see teams

1060
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:47,200
Speaker 1: like like Baltimore with you know, Dravis Henry, hen Derek Henry,

1061
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: and you see Philly with sa Quon you got they

1062
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: got both got monster deals and some extension, some extra money.

1063
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 1: But the league is still a passing league first at

1064
00:54:57,080 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: the moment, although the pendulum is starting to swing back,

1065
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,919
Speaker 1: do you see the market for running backs changing at all.

1066
00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: Obviously everything's going to go up, but is the value

1067
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 1: going to go up?

1068
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 8: So?

1069
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 6: I think the first thrust is there. I think the

1070
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:14,400
Speaker 6: first changing of the wins is there. However, the trepidation,

1071
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 6: the uncertainty that teams have with the running back position

1072
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:19,800
Speaker 6: is Okay, so you're good and you're young, so we

1073
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 6: give you a bunch of carries, and then we pay

1074
00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 6: you because you were very good and you're young, and

1075
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,399
Speaker 6: you have another three four years. But then it turns

1076
00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 6: out that your your cliff, that you fall off, that

1077
00:55:28,960 --> 00:55:31,239
Speaker 6: age cliff, that that tread on the tires cliff, that

1078
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 6: over usage cliff. It comes a lot earlier for running

1079
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 6: backs and it does for quarterbacks, wide receivers, tight ends,

1080
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 6: et cetera, because of the hits that they take. So

1081
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 6: you bring up Saquon and Derrick Henry. It's important to

1082
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 6: remember that the off season previous as sure was really

1083
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 6: in season trade deadline, the forty nine ers acquired Christian McCaffrey.

1084
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 6: He was an integral piece of their Super Bowl offense. Right,

1085
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 6: people always talk with a Brock party of it because

1086
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 6: Jimmy got her and Brock went in, Oh my gosh,

1087
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 6: what a guy this was. But McCaffrey was really I

1088
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 6: think that the biggest gear that turned there in terms

1089
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 6: of unlocking that offense may get a super Bowl caliber offense.

1090
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 6: He has over four hundred touches over the course that season.

1091
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,080
Speaker 6: McCaffrey does gets at the extension and he can't go

1092
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: the next season because his calves are just too tired.

1093
00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 6: Like they're just too He had double achilles ten nights,

1094
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 6: like it was just there's so much were on those tires.

1095
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 6: And so it's not that Saquon and Derreck Henry and

1096
00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:20,400
Speaker 6: Josh Jacobs to the Packers were good acquisitions this past

1097
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 6: offseason because they were, and then Henry and Saquon got

1098
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 6: their extensions. They deserve them. It's okay. Can Saquon and

1099
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 6: Henry continue to produce at twenty eight, twenty nine and thirty, Right,

1100
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 6: Derek Henry is the first running back over the age

1101
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 6: of thirty to rush for nine hundred yards in the season.

1102
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 6: He just did it last season. So if more guys

1103
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 6: can extend their career into their thirties and still be

1104
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 6: really productively valuable on the second contract. Then you'll see

1105
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 6: the tie totally shifts. So we're at we're at the

1106
00:56:44,600 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 6: beginning of the change. The change hasn't happened yet.

1107
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, not enough examples, right.

1108
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 2: You highlighted Patriots versus Bills in Week five, I think

1109
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,839
Speaker 2: is one of your nine interesting schedule features. Naturally, it's

1110
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,280
Speaker 2: the Stefan Diggs return to Buffalo in a different uniform

1111
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 2: for the first time. Fortunately for him it comes in

1112
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 2: the first half of the season before his legs tend

1113
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 2: to inevitably go, which has been around Week nine the

1114
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: last three seasons where his production drops off considerably.

1115
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 3: But Steve and I have said that.

1116
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 2: New England will be the team in the AFC East

1117
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 2: that we think hangs closest to Buffalo this season. To me,

1118
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:21,680
Speaker 2: that the Jets just have too much to overcome in

1119
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 2: year one under Aaron Glenn. I know you're a little

1120
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 2: bit more bullish on them, and Miami is one of

1121
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: my top three teams to implode this season. How would

1122
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: you stack the AFC East behind Buffalo?

1123
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's the correct order. I'm very Jets

1124
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 6: interested because I've always been a big Aaron Glen guy,

1125
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 6: and I've always been a big Justin Fields guy, and

1126
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 6: now they're he'll together and it's like, all right, great,

1127
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,919
Speaker 6: if you make me look at the rest of the roster,

1128
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,880
Speaker 6: it's ah, you know, we got some some defensive positions

1129
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 6: that are going to require some changes. We don't have

1130
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 6: a lot of weapons after Garrett, Garrett William or excuse me,

1131
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 6: Garrett Wilson, and so like the Jets, I think are

1132
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:57,439
Speaker 6: going to be better than people expect, but they're still

1133
00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 6: like you have to remember Glenn came from that long

1134
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 6: term rebuild there in Detroit. Their new GM, Darren Moogie

1135
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,680
Speaker 6: came from Denver where they tried to really fast turn

1136
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 6: around with Russell Wilson. It didn't work right. So I

1137
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 6: think they're gonna be patient. I think they're going to

1138
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,040
Speaker 6: be impressive, but not necessarily like a win call him impressive,

1139
00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 6: just like, oh, this team is more put together than

1140
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 6: we thought. New England is the team. To me, they

1141
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:19,320
Speaker 6: can take that year two leap with Drake May that

1142
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 6: that first year of Mike for Able adding a lot

1143
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 6: of professionalism to that room, raising the floor of that room. Defensively,

1144
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 6: I think they're a lot more talented than people realize.

1145
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,160
Speaker 6: If Christian Barmore was able to come back with key

1146
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 6: On White on that team, if Christian Gonzalez is like

1147
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 6: a lockdown corner one on that team, they have they

1148
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 6: have a lot more pieces on defense. I think folks

1149
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,520
Speaker 6: realized and may last season, man, I mean, he was

1150
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 6: so good with such a bad supporting cast. He was

1151
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:42,960
Speaker 6: really really impressive. He had to eat a nice game

1152
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 6: against the Bills there at the end of the season.

1153
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,160
Speaker 6: He made a couple of highly impressive plays dealing with

1154
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 6: a lot of pressure, dealing with bad receivers making mistakes

1155
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 6: on the field. If they can just get a semblance

1156
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,919
Speaker 6: of professionalism around him, the Patriots are gonna jump quick

1157
00:58:54,920 --> 00:58:57,200
Speaker 6: because they have the quarterback that you need in order

1158
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 6: to make that leap. So I'm excited about the Patriots.

1159
00:58:59,000 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 6: I don't think they hold of candle the Bills, but

1160
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 6: I think they have the second best team in the division.

1161
00:59:03,120 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: And then the other team I was looking at. I mean,

1162
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,480
Speaker 2: you had the Raiders and Bears as two of your

1163
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,840
Speaker 2: most improved teams, and I get the head coaching bump

1164
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 2: for both teams, and the talent level has been improved

1165
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: for both, but I kind of see them in a

1166
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 2: similar light to the Jets, but more because they're playing

1167
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 2: in two of the most competitive divisions in the league.

1168
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,840
Speaker 2: I mean NFC North, AFC West. I mean the whole

1169
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,240
Speaker 2: list of coaches in the AFC West is a hall

1170
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: of fame list pretty much. I don't know if it's

1171
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 2: going to be reflected in the win column for the Raiders,

1172
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,400
Speaker 2: even though they might be appreciably better.

1173
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I hear you. I also would say, go and

1174
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 6: look at those Antonio Pierce Raiders teams, which are not

1175
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 6: good teams, and look at how they played against the Chiefs,

1176
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 6: because they were consistently right up there against them, beat

1177
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 6: them that one time as well in their very emotional

1178
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 6: game for Antonio Pierce. Good divisions raise you up. They

1179
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 6: fire you up right like even you go watch Caleb

1180
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 6: Bliams and that terrible Bears team with Matt Eberflus last

1181
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 6: year against the Packers, playing them close field goal games

1182
01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 6: against the Lions, playing them close to the fourth quarter,

1183
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 6: blew up like the Vikings right they were in a

1184
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:11,400
Speaker 6: tight game with the Vikings. Good divisions will raise your tide,

1185
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 6: they will raise your floor because the first thing a

1186
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 6: team does, you're talking about June July, is you start planning, Okay,

1187
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 6: how are we going to attack our division? How are

1188
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 6: we going to win these six games we need to win.

1189
01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 6: How we're going to get that automatic playoff qualifier by

1190
01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 6: winning this division? Like, that's the first obstacle. It's always

1191
01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 6: in front of every single team. So when you look

1192
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 6: at Lions, Packers, Vikings, so when you look at Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs,

1193
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 6: you realize, all right, like we have to get very

1194
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 6: serious about these rivalries and reaching the level of these

1195
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 6: teams if we want to compete in our division and

1196
01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:38,720
Speaker 6: then our conference, so on and so forth, and so

1197
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 6: bad divisions are assuming good divisions make for bad win

1198
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 6: loss records for those final teams. I agree with you,

1199
01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 6: but they also draw out the best in you. They

1200
01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 6: also draw out the competitiveness in you. I think Pete

1201
01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 6: Carroll is very well equipped to deal with that with

1202
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 6: the Raiders specifically, and then with Chicago hopefully Ben Johnson

1203
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 6: does the same.

1204
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 1: When you talk about you said you're Jets interested because

1205
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: you know you've liked Aarren Glynn. I played against him

1206
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: as a player. He was a really tough competitor. I

1207
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of respect for the guy. I know

1208
01:01:03,680 --> 01:01:06,520
Speaker 1: he can really be a good leader. And then you know,

1209
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 1: Justin Field's coming over from Pittsburgh and I don't know,

1210
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know Justin Fields, but you can always feel

1211
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,400
Speaker 1: like he's washing his hands to what happened in Pittsburgh.

1212
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 1: He went four and two in the first six games,

1213
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:20,120
Speaker 1: never saw the field again, and he's like, what are

1214
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 1: you talking? You know, So, even though it came out

1215
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: that the Pittsburgh wanted him to stay, he wanted out.

1216
01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:31,040
Speaker 1: How spin it all positive? How good could it be?

1217
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:33,360
Speaker 1: In Aaron Glenn's first year as the Jets head coach.

1218
01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, the frustration with Justin Fields is that every offensive

1219
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 6: coach he has had to this point has wanted to

1220
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:44,160
Speaker 6: dabble a little bit in the QB run game, but

1221
01:01:44,360 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 6: not live and die with it. And when you have

1222
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 6: a quarterback who's a like a Russian quarterback, a true

1223
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 6: dual threat player, you have to sell out for this offense.

1224
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 6: You have to be all in the baby in the bathwater,

1225
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 6: the whole kit and kaboodle, like. You have to build

1226
01:01:56,920 --> 01:02:00,280
Speaker 6: the ship around gun running and having multiple back field

1227
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 6: options and having RPOs and having read options. You think

1228
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:04,919
Speaker 6: about what Greg Roman did for Lamar Jackson. Think about

1229
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,080
Speaker 6: Cliff Kingsbury and that offense for Jade Daniels last year.

1230
01:02:07,240 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 6: All these RPOs, all these bubble screens behind inside zone.

1231
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 6: They build a whole plane out of the idea that they

1232
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,160
Speaker 6: can play eleven on eleven football. And in those six

1233
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,760
Speaker 6: games that Justin Fields played for Arthur Smith in Pittsburgh,

1234
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 6: they're running you know West Coast offense, three step quick games,

1235
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 6: stuff just in the pocket, and it's like, okay, like,

1236
01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,440
Speaker 6: obviously we'd like for the guy to get better at this.

1237
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 6: He needs to be able to do this in order

1238
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 6: to be a three down player in the NFL and

1239
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 6: be a good quarterback. But this is not where's Brett

1240
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:34,720
Speaker 6: is buttered You've got to meet him where he is

1241
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 6: and then kind of try to build onto the offense

1242
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 6: on top of that. Right, That's why I think Fields

1243
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 6: did not want to go back to Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh

1244
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,240
Speaker 6: never put in his hands the offense that would make

1245
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 6: him successful, much like Matt Naguit with the Bears never

1246
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 6: really put into his hands the offense that would make

1247
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 6: him successful. When you hear Aaron Glenn talk about Justin Fields,

1248
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 6: Aaron Glenn refers back to the games which he was

1249
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,160
Speaker 6: the coach of the Lions and which Justin Fields just

1250
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 6: killed him. On the ground, he had like seventy rushing yards,

1251
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 6: eighty rushing yards, ninety rushing yards. Because they play on

1252
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:01,760
Speaker 6: this man coverage, you would break the pocket and you

1253
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 6: would demolish them in the second and the third level.

1254
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,840
Speaker 6: I think they very clearly know that if they're going

1255
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 6: to get the best out of this player, it is

1256
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,040
Speaker 6: going to be with having him carry the ball seven times,

1257
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 6: eight times, nine times. And unlike Lamar Jackson, unlike Jaden Daniels,

1258
01:03:13,640 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 6: whom you fear he will accumulate too many hits and

1259
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 6: it'll beat him up. No, he's more of the Josh

1260
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 6: Allen Jalen Hurts bowl, where this is a big dude.

1261
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 6: He can egan dole out some contact, he can take

1262
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 6: on some contact. And so I think we're going to

1263
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 6: see designed run and scramble both move up for Justin

1264
01:03:28,000 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 6: Fields in terms of frequency more than he's done in

1265
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:33,240
Speaker 6: his past iterations. And that's going to just inherently raise

1266
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 6: the floor of that Jets offense. That's why I had

1267
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 6: that that rosy projection's.

1268
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,919
Speaker 2: Talking with ESPN National NFL analysts Ben sol like last

1269
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 2: one for me. Ben liked your analysis of the new

1270
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 2: regular season overtime rules, which now are identical to the

1271
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 2: playoff rules. For those who don't remember, each team gets

1272
01:03:48,080 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 2: at least one position no matter what. But the strategy

1273
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,760
Speaker 2: behind the coin toss and taking the first possession or

1274
01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: deferring is really going to be interesting here. I know

1275
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,600
Speaker 2: we don't see overtime a ton in the regular season,

1276
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 2: but still in all, it's gonna be very interesting to

1277
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 2: see what the approach is should such games unfold here

1278
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 2: somewhere between September and December.

1279
01:04:11,360 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not a big deal because it's not going

1280
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,960
Speaker 6: to occur enough, but when it occurs, it's going to

1281
01:04:16,960 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 6: be a big deal because, much like in that that

1282
01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 6: Super Bowl the Chiefs against the forty nine ers, making

1283
01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 6: sure your team understands it and understands the context behind

1284
01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 6: it and why you're making these decisions is going to

1285
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:30,760
Speaker 6: be important. There is at first, brush a big advantage

1286
01:04:30,760 --> 01:04:33,560
Speaker 6: to the team with the ball. Second, the team defers

1287
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 6: and they receive the ball because you know what deficit

1288
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 6: you need to cover. Right, everybody's getting one possession, so

1289
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 6: you're going to receive the ball. The game either, so

1290
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 6: be tied. It'll be down by three, you'll be down

1291
01:04:42,360 --> 01:04:44,360
Speaker 6: by seven, maybe you're down by eight, and you'll know

1292
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 6: what you need to do, so you can use all

1293
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Speaker 6: four downs. You can say, okay, we have to go

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Speaker 6: for this fourth and four. You know on third and ten,

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01:04:50,320 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 6: we know we're going for on fourth down, it's only

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01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,360
Speaker 6: go pick up seven yards. It gives you more flexibility

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:57,120
Speaker 6: on offense because you know you're using that fourth down. However,

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01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 6: if we get to the end of sudden death the

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01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:02,120
Speaker 6: game is still tied. Than being the team you loot

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 6: the ball first means you're the team at the ball.

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01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:06,000
Speaker 6: Third and now if you score, you win. Right back

1302
01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 6: back to the first rules, back to the way of beginning.

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01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 6: Any points on the board and lo and behold, you

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01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 6: know we're winning the game here. So there is a

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01:05:12,080 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 6: there's a push and pull that you know, speaking to

1306
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 6: analytic sappers across the league, they are still calibrating to

1307
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 6: a lot of it depends on who's on the other sideline.

1308
01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 6: How do they like to behave are they more aggressive,

1309
01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 6: are they more conservative? And so this is not a

1310
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 6: solved overtime format yet. And yeah, the results of one

1311
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 6: or two regular season games affecting playoff seeding, how it

1312
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,560
Speaker 6: prepares you for the playoffs. It might end up being

1313
01:05:32,560 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 6: a big deal depending on the overtime games that we get.

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Speaker 1: Last one for me. But give me, you cover the league,

1315
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: you see all the teams, you think about them. Give

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01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: me two favorites for the Super Bowl, one from each conference,

1317
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:46,560
Speaker 1: and then give me two teams that maybe nobody gives

1318
01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: a chance that you think they got an outside chance

1319
01:05:48,680 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: of getting there. Yeah.

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Speaker 6: So, I think the Buffalo Bolls are the best team

1321
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 6: in AFC.

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 8: I think that.

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01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:55,520
Speaker 6: You know, I'm sick and tired of saying like, oh,

1324
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 6: this is the year for Buffalo, because I know they're

1325
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 6: sicking every sick and tired to hear in this and

1326
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 6: it's very difficult to go to the playoffs every year,

1327
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,080
Speaker 6: continue running into the same wall. I think they're so

1328
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 6: unbelievably deep. I think the Chiefs are about as weak

1329
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 6: as they've been in the last several years. Bengals don't

1330
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,680
Speaker 6: scare me the way they used to. Ravens I think

1331
01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:11,320
Speaker 6: are still definitely up there, But Buffalo would be the

1332
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 6: team for me that I would say leads the pack

1333
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 6: right now in the AFC. Philadelphia, I still think is

1334
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 6: the team that leads the pack in the NFC. I

1335
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 6: don't like that because they just won the Super Bowl.

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01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:22,760
Speaker 6: We know the hangover is real. I think Detroit is

1337
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 6: still very good. But Philadelphia, man, that that offense just

1338
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 6: doesn't really have a solution, right. They've got too much talent.

1339
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,919
Speaker 6: They use all four downs, like, it's just very hard

1340
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 6: to slow that train. Obviously, they lose office coordinator Kellen Moore,

1341
01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 6: and they have a play caller change that's kind of

1342
01:06:36,040 --> 01:06:38,240
Speaker 6: a self perpetuating machine at this point. Just kind of

1343
01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:41,400
Speaker 6: spam the aj Brown button, Spam the Saquon button. Do

1344
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 6: a toush bush. We got thirty points on the board.

1345
01:06:43,520 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 6: You know, it's very simple, it's very effective. So to me,

1346
01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:49,880
Speaker 6: those are the favorites for you knowin of the sleepers

1347
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:51,840
Speaker 6: and the sneaky teams. I think in the NFC the

1348
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:55,520
Speaker 6: Buccaneers are being tremendously underrated. They return all eleven starters

1349
01:06:55,560 --> 01:06:58,880
Speaker 6: on offense again, a new coordinator there, Liam Cohen is out.

1350
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,280
Speaker 6: The head coach of the Jaguars. Josh Grizzard is a

1351
01:07:01,320 --> 01:07:03,760
Speaker 6: new OC. They're promoted internally, but so long as Josh

1352
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 6: Grizzard's got like you know, four brain cells drug together.

1353
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 6: It's pretty clear what you do in terms of how

1354
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,800
Speaker 6: great this offensive line is. Baker's so good with Mike

1355
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 6: Evans and Chris Godwin, these isolation spots, like the recipe's

1356
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 6: kind of been made for it, you just need to

1357
01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 6: follow it. So I think the Buccaneer is gonna be

1358
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 6: great on offense. This past defense for the Bucks is

1359
01:07:18,840 --> 01:07:21,400
Speaker 6: about the worst defense Top Bowls ever fielded, and we

1360
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,080
Speaker 6: could just stay with some confidence Top Bowles. You know,

1361
01:07:23,120 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 6: he's got some issues as a head coach, game manager,

1362
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 6: what have you. He pretty reliably puts good defenses out

1363
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 6: out on the field and they dealt with a lot

1364
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:31,320
Speaker 6: of injuries in the back seven. I think they're gonna

1365
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 6: be healthier this year, you know, to see that defense elevates,

1366
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 6: which to me like a top eight offense with the

1367
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:38,200
Speaker 6: above average defense. That's the recipe for a contender like

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01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,520
Speaker 6: the Buccaneers NFC and then AFC. I always like being

1369
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,360
Speaker 6: a year late to the hype train because whenever these

1370
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:46,960
Speaker 6: hype trains fall off the tracks, everybody kind of abandoned shipped.

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01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 6: So everybody was thrilled about the Texans last year. They

1372
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:51,480
Speaker 6: have offensive line problems. They have play color problems. Now

1373
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:54,560
Speaker 6: nobody's excited about the Texans. The pieces are still a

1374
01:07:54,560 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 6: piece of C. J. Stroud and Neigo Collins. Derek's think

1375
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 6: that Will Anderson Deimico Ryans like the dudes are still

1376
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 6: the dudes. They have the the build of a contending team,

1377
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 6: so they have elite talent at those premium positions corner

1378
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 6: wide receiver, quarterback, and edge rusher. So I'm still I'm

1379
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 6: still willing to buy Texan stock again. Another team of

1380
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,400
Speaker 6: the first year play caller. But if Nick Kyley can

1381
01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 6: elevate more than than Bobby Slowe did fixing those protection issues,

1382
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:16,240
Speaker 6: then we should expect the Texans to be back in

1383
01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 6: the AFC. They've been Division round team the last two years,

1384
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,920
Speaker 6: so why not take that next step Compence Championship and

1385
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 6: then into the Super Bowl. Those are those are my teams, all.

1386
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,120
Speaker 2: Right, Ben, Thanks for the time, as always, enjoy your

1387
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:28,800
Speaker 2: summer if there is any length to it, because we're

1388
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,680
Speaker 2: all going to blink and be a training camps here and.

1389
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 6: I'm going fish in first day, let's say Wednesday, first

1390
01:08:33,439 --> 01:08:36,160
Speaker 6: thing tomorrow morning, my fishing trip starts. I'm very excited.

1391
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:38,200
Speaker 3: Awesome. Thanks for the time, Ben, appreciate it.

1392
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 2: Thank care for ESPN National NFL analyst Ben Solo joining

1393
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,200
Speaker 2: us has some interesting stuff up on ESPN dot com

1394
01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 2: as you might want to check you out if you

1395
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:48,559
Speaker 2: want to get the low down on maybe some things

1396
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 2: to expect or to keep an eye out for in

1397
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 2: the upcoming twenty twenty five NFL season.

1398
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:55,519
Speaker 3: We're going to take a break here.

1399
01:08:55,640 --> 01:08:57,880
Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll open the phone lines, take

1400
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 2: more of your phone calls as we're looking for the

1401
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,280
Speaker 2: second year player you think is gonna make the biggest

1402
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 2: jump for the Bills in twenty twenty five. We'll also

1403
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 2: have Javon Solomon here in studio at some point with

1404
01:09:09,640 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 2: practice soon to end, and we'll see who's at the

1405
01:09:13,080 --> 01:09:16,080
Speaker 2: podium as well for post practice interviews when we return

1406
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's

1407
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 3: All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live.

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,559
Speaker 2: Practice wrapping up here this afternoon for day two of

1410
01:09:38,720 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 2: mandatory mini camp, and it looks like it's just about

1411
01:09:43,160 --> 01:09:46,599
Speaker 2: winding down, so we expect to see Javon Solomon here

1412
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,360
Speaker 2: in studio shortly. I'm gonna have to get him a

1413
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 2: towel and be still wiping his brow. Yeh, be all right,

1414
01:09:57,080 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 2: and we are take we are still in the chair.

1415
01:09:59,479 --> 01:10:01,240
Speaker 3: Well that is what it is.

1416
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 2: We are still taking phone calls at eight h three

1417
01:10:03,800 --> 01:10:06,320
Speaker 2: zero five fifty one eighty eight five fifty two five

1418
01:10:06,439 --> 01:10:08,720
Speaker 2: fifty for the second year player that you think is

1419
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 2: going to take the biggest leap in twenty twenty five

1420
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 2: for the Bills.

1421
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 3: Let's check in with Gary on a cell.

1422
01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 1: What do you got for us?

1423
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 3: Gary?

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01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:16,840
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, how all doing good?

1425
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:17,200
Speaker 1: And good?

1426
01:10:18,479 --> 01:10:20,720
Speaker 12: I think how mc gerb Bills's defense. It's gonna have

1427
01:10:20,760 --> 01:10:24,000
Speaker 12: to be pull Bishop. I mean, you know, he's always

1428
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 12: been a secondary coach. He always had good safeties. So

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01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 12: and in my opinion, this is the most important player

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01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,960
Speaker 12: on our defense that has to come up. You have

1431
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 12: to play really well. If he does, then I think

1432
01:10:37,400 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 12: that's going to make our defense, you know, much better.

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01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:43,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard to argue with, Gary, So thanks for

1434
01:10:43,439 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 2: the call on that. I we can say this because

1435
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,680
Speaker 2: you know, he's been around and coach pretty much confirmed it.

1436
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: You know, Cole Bishop's spent a good portion of the

1437
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,759
Speaker 2: winter and spring here in Buffalo, and so did Tailor

1438
01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:02,440
Speaker 2: rap I don't know if it's because they both anticipate

1439
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: being a starting tandem or cole Bishop clearly has that

1440
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: as a goal for that to happen. But he put

1441
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,439
Speaker 2: the time in up here not only training and getting

1442
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 2: himself bigger, stronger, and faster, but I think kind of

1443
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 2: talking scheme with rap and knowing how to play off

1444
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 2: of one another on the field in terms of what

1445
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 2: their responsibilities are, leverage, help, all of that stuff.

1446
01:11:28,040 --> 01:11:28,720
Speaker 1: It was.

1447
01:11:29,320 --> 01:11:33,759
Speaker 2: It was clearly something that Bishop made a point of,

1448
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,799
Speaker 2: I need to be here to get all of that done,

1449
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 2: to put myself in the best position to challenge for

1450
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 2: that starting job that tamorw Hamlin held down last season.

1451
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the safeties as good as they play, and

1452
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 1: we saw this obviously. You know Bill's fans know this

1453
01:11:50,439 --> 01:11:53,240
Speaker 1: from Poyer and Hide and their years of service here

1454
01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:56,920
Speaker 1: in the last five or six years. What other team

1455
01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,519
Speaker 1: said about how difficult the Bill's defense was to play

1456
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: against be because of the safeties and the safety play.

1457
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: What they do is not only they make plays, they

1458
01:12:05,040 --> 01:12:08,000
Speaker 1: cover guys that are running and all that stuff, but

1459
01:12:08,040 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: they also the thing that they don't get credit for

1460
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:16,839
Speaker 1: is they confound the opponent's quarterback. They move around before

1461
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,120
Speaker 1: the snap because they don't really have to find a

1462
01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,840
Speaker 1: guy and line up on him and man up. Usually

1463
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: one of them is free, and if one of them

1464
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,400
Speaker 1: is free to drop back to the middle of the

1465
01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: field and kind of be a safety net. He can

1466
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 1: line up wherever he wants as long as he knows

1467
01:12:28,920 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 1: he can get back to his spot. So they line

1468
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: up in spots that give the quarterback an idea of

1469
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 1: what coverage is coming. That's the wrong idea, and that

1470
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: extra like oh now what are they in kind of

1471
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 1: thing is all it takes. We're talking like two and

1472
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: a half seconds right after the snap is and that's

1473
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: what safeties can give you when they play it right.

1474
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: But that takes a chemistry between you the strong safety,

1475
01:12:52,320 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: free safety, like Okay, I'm gonna do this, and I'm

1476
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: gonna make it look like this. You make it look

1477
01:12:57,160 --> 01:12:59,400
Speaker 1: like this too, but it's not right.

1478
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:03,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think what's different about the potential combination

1479
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: of Bishop and Rap as opposed to Poyer and Hide

1480
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,479
Speaker 2: is Poyer and Hyde had spent three to four years

1481
01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: in the league already, granted in two different places, right,

1482
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 2: but you know they had games under their belt at

1483
01:13:20,160 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 2: this level, and then you just stuck them together and

1484
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 2: all they had to do was get used to one

1485
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 2: another and the scheme to some degree chemistry. Yeah, Bishop

1486
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,679
Speaker 2: is coming in as an inexperienced player at the league,

1487
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 2: in this league, you know, rap obviously coming from somewhere else,

1488
01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 2: similar to the way Poyer and Hyde did. So he

1489
01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 2: stepped right into the starting lineup and it's off you go.

1490
01:13:43,640 --> 01:13:46,800
Speaker 2: It's a little bit of a different climb to get

1491
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 2: to that same place that Poyer and Hyde were knowing.

1492
01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 2: Bishop is still even to this point, a relatively inexperienced

1493
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 2: player trying to acclimate to scheme, teammates, you know, and

1494
01:13:58,360 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 2: all that communication that has to go on out there

1495
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 2: on the field. That that, to me is the difference

1496
01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,760
Speaker 2: with this potential combination as opposed to the previous one

1497
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 2: that you know, was one of the best tandems we've

1498
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 2: ever seen at the two safety positions in team history.

1499
01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 2: I mean, you have to go a long way to find,

1500
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 2: you know, a comparable tandem, whether you're talking about Leonard

1501
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 2: Smith and Mark Kelso or Henry Jones and right, you

1502
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:23,000
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

1503
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,920
Speaker 1: So it's yeah, and and it's a good observation. But

1504
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,759
Speaker 1: Gary McDermott knows what he's looking at. And he played

1505
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 1: the position at college and coached defensive He was a

1506
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:35,760
Speaker 1: defensive court editor. He knows what that can do and

1507
01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:38,559
Speaker 1: what can it can do for a defense. So him

1508
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,960
Speaker 1: putting having an emphasis and a great understanding for what

1509
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,040
Speaker 1: it can take and how he can get there, and

1510
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: how do you coach those guys up? Yeah, I think

1511
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,440
Speaker 1: that's a that's a great observation.

1512
01:14:48,840 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: Let's go to Milton in Buffalo next.

1513
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: What's up, Milton?

1514
01:14:52,960 --> 01:14:53,799
Speaker 13: How you doing today?

1515
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 1: Good?

1516
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 13: Yeah? I said, like, what's second year player have an impact?

1517
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 13: I want to say Coleman two, But I also want

1518
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 13: to like exercise the fact that what nobody probably sees

1519
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 13: is like it takes two. Also like Fire's QB. We

1520
01:15:12,200 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 13: got the MVP, but if you notice, you know, the

1521
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 13: wide receivers, they like clear it out for everything in

1522
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 13: the middle, and Josh likes the middle, so that takes

1523
01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,040
Speaker 13: away from the wide receivers also, you know, and it

1524
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:26,080
Speaker 13: seems like they should like cut Keyan a little bit

1525
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 13: of slack for that, you know what I mean? But

1526
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,960
Speaker 13: I think he will improve, but probably get the ball

1527
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:31,320
Speaker 13: a little bit more, is what I'm trying to think.

1528
01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:34,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he plays more and he stays healthy, he'll

1529
01:15:34,360 --> 01:15:37,679
Speaker 1: get more targets obviously, And like we say, we would,

1530
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 1: it would have been fun to see where it would

1531
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,800
Speaker 1: have evolved to in one season his first year last year,

1532
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:46,479
Speaker 1: had he not got his wrist busted. Right, So because

1533
01:15:46,479 --> 01:15:49,639
Speaker 1: he was like Brownie said, he he had five five

1534
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,479
Speaker 1: for one to twenty or something against Seattle, comes back

1535
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 1: the next question, Yeah, and he's he's crushing it again

1536
01:15:56,240 --> 01:15:57,240
Speaker 1: and you know, gets hurt.

1537
01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:58,960
Speaker 2: So I'm and he had over one hundred yards a

1538
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:02,240
Speaker 2: week before against Tennessee and he had a touchdown call

1539
01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 2: back on penalty.

1540
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:08,599
Speaker 1: So there's a lot in it, and I get it. Yes,

1541
01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: wide receivers, there's always a wide receiver out there. They

1542
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: want somebody who can run through the defense and take

1543
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: a couple of guys with him, take the lid off

1544
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:20,280
Speaker 1: of it. But if here's the thing, they're not just

1545
01:16:20,360 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: gonna have Keon Coleman go out there and take the

1546
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 1: lid off or what they do this, They're gonna do

1547
01:16:24,560 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: what's gonna be successful. Keon might be the guy that

1548
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:33,639
Speaker 1: everybody's clearing out for. You earn that, and you because

1549
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:35,600
Speaker 1: of your skills, because of what you do, because of

1550
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:37,680
Speaker 1: what Josh sees in you, the trust he has when

1551
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,640
Speaker 1: he throws it to you, the targets you get, you

1552
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:43,200
Speaker 1: earn all of that. It evolves. It's organic, even in

1553
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: the structure of an offense when you've got it, and

1554
01:16:46,400 --> 01:16:50,360
Speaker 1: it's the adage of it's like a financial illustration. If

1555
01:16:50,360 --> 01:16:52,679
Speaker 1: you invest a throw or a target and a guy

1556
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,280
Speaker 1: and you keep getting positive returns, you're putting more and

1557
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:59,120
Speaker 1: more money into it. That's why it works, that's always.

1558
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:02,760
Speaker 1: That's why Khalil Shakir had that big year last year.

1559
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 1: They man, you just keep going, just keep feeding, keep

1560
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:10,760
Speaker 1: feeding him. He doesn't drop it. Same thing with the Kinkaid.

1561
01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:12,800
Speaker 1: He catches everything. Now you can say, you know, the

1562
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 1: last desperation throw from Josh can he could have caught it,

1563
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 1: and that'd have been a big difference maker. But for

1564
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: the most part, that's been one of the things that

1565
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: the Bills have given Josh too. Kincaid's great catch ratio.

1566
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 1: Khalil is one of the best in the league at

1567
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: catching it. They want guys that don't drop it. That's

1568
01:17:31,520 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: why I think gave Davis walked.

1569
01:17:34,560 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 3: He has a fifty catch rate.

1570
01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 1: That's not good enough. So yeah, Keon may get more targets,

1571
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:44,720
Speaker 1: but if he does, it's because he's earning them, not

1572
01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 1: because they just decided because he's a big, strong guy.

1573
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: They're just gonna start feeding the ball he's he's gonna

1574
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:52,679
Speaker 1: earn it, and that's that's the way it should work.

1575
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:56,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I understand Milton's point about work in the

1576
01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 2: middle of the field, and when you have two high

1577
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 2: catch rate players who usually run routes in that area,

1578
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:05,640
Speaker 2: Kincaid and Shakir, as you mentioned, there's gonna be a

1579
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 2: lot of balls between the numbers.

1580
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,519
Speaker 3: I think to your point, Yeah.

1581
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:14,040
Speaker 2: Coleman's got to earn it, and then if he's lined

1582
01:18:14,080 --> 01:18:17,439
Speaker 2: up outside, maybe some more shots come his way. I

1583
01:18:17,439 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 2: don't think it's that Josh doesn't trust anybody else.

1584
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:24,200
Speaker 3: I just think, on I gotta have it down.

1585
01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 2: If the guy that you threw too earlier is still

1586
01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,479
Speaker 2: catching the thing and hasn't dropped it in three weeks,

1587
01:18:29,479 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 2: you're gonna keep going there. You're gonna go to the

1588
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 2: sure fire thing.

1589
01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: I'll say this to you. Just happened even when I

1590
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: was playing. You'd come back after a game, you'd have

1591
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 1: two targets, and your quarterback looks at the at the film,

1592
01:18:45,360 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: and he sees time after time he's thrown it to

1593
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, he's thrown it to this guy and throwing

1594
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,080
Speaker 1: it to that guy, and throwing to this guy and

1595
01:18:50,080 --> 01:18:52,720
Speaker 1: throwing to the other guy. But he keeps looking at

1596
01:18:52,720 --> 01:18:55,000
Speaker 1: the film and away from the ball, you're standing there

1597
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,760
Speaker 1: by yourself a lot open, so he's gonna say, wow,

1598
01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: all right, I see it. And then it happens again.

1599
01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:03,680
Speaker 1: He's like, wow, okay, see it again. So then he's

1600
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 1: gonna start saying, well, gosh, you know what, the guy's open,

1601
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,320
Speaker 1: it's an easier throw. I'm gonna make it right give you.

1602
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,680
Speaker 1: You start earning chances by doing your job away from

1603
01:19:11,680 --> 01:19:13,360
Speaker 1: the ball because the quarterback watches the film and says,

1604
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:16,120
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, look at my guy over here. It

1605
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: happens like that because they do look at all the

1606
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: film all the time, and it's gonna be right there

1607
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: in front of them, so you'll get the targets you earn.

1608
01:19:26,360 --> 01:19:28,040
Speaker 1: That's the way it always works. That way. It's always

1609
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 1: gonna work, doesn't matter if you're outside or inside. And

1610
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:34,080
Speaker 1: then what happens is Joe Brady will start calling plays

1611
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:36,000
Speaker 1: like you know what he's doing. Listen, you know what

1612
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: look at key On on this and he'll he'll call

1613
01:19:38,920 --> 01:19:43,479
Speaker 1: the play. You know, they start giving it to you,

1614
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 1: they start throwing it at you. That's just the way

1615
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,519
Speaker 1: it works. So I get it. There's all this we

1616
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 1: all throw around, this offensive philosophy a lot, and all

1617
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,720
Speaker 1: this other stuff a lot, But it comes down to

1618
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: guys earn the opportunities they get and that's that's the

1619
01:19:58,120 --> 01:19:58,720
Speaker 1: way it should be.

1620
01:19:59,280 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know, whether the competition is the competition

1621
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:09,880
Speaker 2: on young, old whatever. And I am curious because one

1622
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:12,880
Speaker 2: of our earlier callers was talking about, you know, maybe

1623
01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:15,200
Speaker 2: Keon gets the opportunity to move around a little bit

1624
01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,200
Speaker 2: more where last year he was largely on the outside,

1625
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 2: and I think that could be in the cards for him. Again,

1626
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,800
Speaker 2: you have to have a coaching staff that trusts you

1627
01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:28,320
Speaker 2: to vary your alignment and your role because you know everything.

1628
01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:32,519
Speaker 2: And that's the challenge, because you don't demonstrate that you're

1629
01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 2: not going to get extra chances, extra responsibility within the

1630
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:39,040
Speaker 2: scope of the offense. Speaking of second year players, one

1631
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,639
Speaker 2: is joining us here in studio right now, fresh off

1632
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:46,200
Speaker 2: the practice field, One Javon Solomon here, and we have

1633
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 2: an interesting topic of discussion here Javon, and I'm going

1634
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 2: to bounce it off you as well, because we've been

1635
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:54,840
Speaker 2: asking everybody what second year player on the roster. We're

1636
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 2: asking our listeners do they think is going to take

1637
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 2: the biggest leap for this team in twenty twenty five. Now,

1638
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 2: in fairness, you can't pick yourself. So if you had

1639
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 2: to pick a second year guy on the roster, do

1640
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:08,800
Speaker 2: you think it's gonna take a nice leap here in

1641
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 2: year two? Anybody catch your eyes so far through the

1642
01:21:11,560 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 2: course of the spring that you think is a good

1643
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 2: chance to pull that off?

1644
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:14,519
Speaker 9: Yeah?

1645
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 14: You know, I think my class, first of all, it

1646
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 14: is so talented. Gosh for head to tell we're a

1647
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 14: talented group for starters, you know, I think I think

1648
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:28,240
Speaker 14: Ke sold a lot. Carter has really been working really hard.

1649
01:21:28,280 --> 01:21:30,679
Speaker 14: You know he you know, he got hurt last season,

1650
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,760
Speaker 14: so you know he really looking for Yeah, yeah, you know.

1651
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:35,120
Speaker 14: So like it's like we got we got a really

1652
01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 14: good class and especially you know, even guys like Grable

1653
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,639
Speaker 14: has been working hard even to work on his technique,

1654
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 14: to to excel learning from the older guys. You know,

1655
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,559
Speaker 14: we got great tackles. Dion Spence, I think he's been

1656
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 14: taking a step and learning those direction.

1657
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:49,680
Speaker 1: Sidees will let you know. We have people tweet at us,

1658
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: and like we asked this question, our listeners tweet at us.

1659
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: The first thing that came up was Javon Solmon. Somebody, Yeah,

1660
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:56,120
Speaker 1: Jravon is gonna take a step forward.

1661
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,240
Speaker 6: It It is a.

1662
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:59,599
Speaker 1: Young room now, Yeah, you got a lot of guys.

1663
01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 1: Then I got Bosa and Hoyt and those guys that

1664
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 1: came over, uh and also Greg and aj But it's

1665
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,800
Speaker 1: you and it's Jackson and you know you, So it

1666
01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:16,960
Speaker 1: is guys downside as well. You gotta feel like this

1667
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:18,000
Speaker 1: is wide open.

1668
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 9: You know.

1669
01:22:19,680 --> 01:22:21,680
Speaker 14: That's in to day football is competition, you know, so

1670
01:22:21,720 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 14: you gotta go out there and put your best before

1671
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 14: it every time you step on the grass. But like

1672
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:27,720
Speaker 14: having having a room like that, be able to learn

1673
01:22:27,760 --> 01:22:29,920
Speaker 14: like that from guys, man, that's that's the big opportunity

1674
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 14: for me. You know what I'm saying, Like whatever position

1675
01:22:33,160 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 14: I'm in, I'm I'm hearing what they're saying. Lean on

1676
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:37,559
Speaker 14: those guys to be able to see what I can

1677
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,720
Speaker 14: do to just naturally get better and end of the day,

1678
01:22:39,760 --> 01:22:41,519
Speaker 14: that's kind of what matters in football. If you're either

1679
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 14: you're gonna be growing or you're gonna be dying, so

1680
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,519
Speaker 14: you have to have that constant mindset.

1681
01:22:44,520 --> 01:22:45,360
Speaker 9: Well, I'm getting better.

1682
01:22:45,840 --> 01:22:50,760
Speaker 5: So two sacks last year, six quarterback.

1683
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,120
Speaker 2: Hits, and you probably have a better count of it

1684
01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: than I do. But I could have probably counted on

1685
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: probably all five of my fingers on one hand, how

1686
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,080
Speaker 2: many more sacks were an inch away.

1687
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,200
Speaker 3: So tell me your process.

1688
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:09,040
Speaker 2: Of reviewing the film and then developing a plan to

1689
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: turn those almost sacks into sacks and putting them in

1690
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:14,639
Speaker 2: your sack column.

1691
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 14: Yeah, so I would say so like when I first

1692
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 14: came here, and even even probably like when I'll see

1693
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,200
Speaker 14: the ended from then to right now, it's completely different

1694
01:23:23,640 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 14: then I was looking.

1695
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 9: I was like, I'm looking.

1696
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:27,720
Speaker 14: I'm trying to look at let me see what I

1697
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 14: can do different at the top of the rush. But

1698
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:31,920
Speaker 14: every rust starts with it get off. I'm missing the

1699
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 14: I'm missing a key point of the initial the initial

1700
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 14: point of the rush. So I'm looking at now now

1701
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 14: I'm focused on the main what's my stance, like, what's

1702
01:23:38,600 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 14: my angle, like where my eyes at? So that that's

1703
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,200
Speaker 14: all that's all before the balls even snap. So now

1704
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,040
Speaker 14: there are different keys coming in that I have to,

1705
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 14: you know, make sure I'm incorporating to my game to

1706
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,839
Speaker 14: so I can excel, so I can make those almost

1707
01:23:50,439 --> 01:23:53,599
Speaker 14: become actual sacks, you know, actual number. So it's it's

1708
01:23:53,720 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 14: that that was probably the biggest thing understanding presnap. Yeah, yeah,

1709
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:59,080
Speaker 14: just pre snap stuff, you know, just in general, just

1710
01:23:59,200 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 14: my eyes my then initially did a get off? Now

1711
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 14: is learning at the top of the rust. How can

1712
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 14: I get that toe turn so I could be facing

1713
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,559
Speaker 14: the quarterback to make that play. How I can just

1714
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 14: maybe just stick an arm out maybe just to get

1715
01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 14: the ball out.

1716
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,559
Speaker 14: It's a little things like that, and and especially like

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01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 14: you got, I got, you gotta know what other guys

1719
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 14: are doing, you know what I'm saying, Like I got

1720
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 14: to be able to read my tackles, be able to

1721
01:24:18,360 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 14: see maybe maybe I'm aim with it and ed hitting

1722
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,519
Speaker 14: it getting off the ball like you always do. Maybe

1723
01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,640
Speaker 14: I can do it kind of a naturally rap under him,

1724
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 14: make a play that way. So it's kind of different

1725
01:24:27,720 --> 01:24:29,360
Speaker 14: things that have to be incorporated.

1726
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,559
Speaker 2: And that's got to change obviously with the quarterbacks.

1727
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 3: Flaccoh you know where he's gonna go.

1728
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know you're playing Joe Milton in week eighteen,

1729
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,320
Speaker 2: it's a little different. So like when you're there to close,

1730
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:45,120
Speaker 2: it's like, don't lunch with Joe Milton, maybe break down

1731
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:46,400
Speaker 2: for a half second, right.

1732
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 14: Yeah, gotta know your personnel. And I think that's that's

1733
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 14: what that's what growing is about.

1734
01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 1: Learning that in the big picture, you come in last

1735
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: year and nobody you know, you know how it's first

1736
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: time lap. Yeah, now you see guys that were exactly

1737
01:25:04,040 --> 01:25:07,400
Speaker 1: like you getting drafted, coming in and going through the

1738
01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,280
Speaker 1: exact same thing. How much security I'm not security, but

1739
01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: how calm are you now after you've seen all this?

1740
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 1: What's what's your level of apprehension and all that this

1741
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: year compared to last year? How how does it change

1742
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: when you just walk on the field in mini camp

1743
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,880
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, oh yeah, I've done this.

1744
01:25:25,040 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 9: Yeah. I think.

1745
01:25:26,320 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 14: I think the biggest thing is like, especially like being

1746
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 14: a new guy, you want to your your your ears

1747
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,400
Speaker 14: and eyes are so wide open, and then you know,

1748
01:25:33,479 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 14: now nowadays you can see a little, you see a lot.

1749
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:37,800
Speaker 14: So I appreciate the game for that. It was just

1750
01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 14: kind of just learning. Like I mean, our playbooks the same,

1751
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,120
Speaker 14: you know, we haven't changed anything too much. So now

1752
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:45,560
Speaker 14: being able, like to pay attention to details and be

1753
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,439
Speaker 14: able to just fine tune things because back then, you

1754
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:48,840
Speaker 14: know what I'm saying, I'm just running out there open.

1755
01:25:49,160 --> 01:25:50,720
Speaker 14: I'm just trying to do my job every single play.

1756
01:25:50,760 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 14: But now I could do my job at a higher

1757
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,120
Speaker 14: level because I'm excelling because I actually know what my

1758
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,000
Speaker 14: guy's doing, I know what the whole line is doing.

1759
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 14: And so that's that's just what it kind of is.

1760
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,280
Speaker 2: Last one real quick before we let you go, uh

1761
01:26:00,320 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 2: and hit the showers? Where where are where is your

1762
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,760
Speaker 2: five week break gonna be at to kind of just

1763
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,519
Speaker 2: keep yourself find and getting ready for camp?

1764
01:26:09,680 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 14: Yeah, you know, we get we're getting straight to it.

1765
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 14: I think the off season kind of like the idea

1766
01:26:13,960 --> 01:26:15,719
Speaker 14: of a break and now this is where you got.

1767
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 14: You know, got training camp coming up, so we're getting

1768
01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:19,880
Speaker 14: straight to it. Probably head out to Dallas for a

1769
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 14: little bit.

1770
01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: Nice.

1771
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 14: I'm the type of guy kind of I kind of

1772
01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,400
Speaker 14: bounced around a little bit. So I'll probably in Dallas

1773
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,519
Speaker 14: for like two weeks. Then I go down to South

1774
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:29,840
Speaker 14: Florida a little bit. You know, there's different trains, still,

1775
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,080
Speaker 14: different trainers. I like, so I like so I like

1776
01:26:32,120 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 14: that baby try to hit those. Yeah, yeah, you know,

1777
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:37,639
Speaker 14: like I like, I like to get a different field

1778
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:40,040
Speaker 14: for things. So kind of go bout bounce and forth

1779
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:43,320
Speaker 14: from those and get back up here probably like like

1780
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,760
Speaker 14: two weeks before training camp work with Will. Will he's

1781
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,120
Speaker 14: the new strength strength coach and he's doing a great job.

1782
01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 14: So to be able to get get some work in

1783
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 14: with him just being the best shape be And I.

1784
01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:56,360
Speaker 9: Got I got a list of things.

1785
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,639
Speaker 14: I got a list of things I'm going I'm going

1786
01:26:58,640 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 14: into the summer with you know saying and we'll definitely

1787
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 14: all have to help me help me out with some

1788
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,920
Speaker 14: of those things. So uh, we're doing some plates, doing yoga,

1789
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:06,479
Speaker 14: doing swimming.

1790
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,040
Speaker 9: We got we got bunch of we got a bunch of.

1791
01:27:07,960 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: Things like now, thanks for it's great seeing you man.

1792
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 9: I appreciate you guys absolutely, Man.

1793
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 3: Stay healthy and we'll be ready for you coming.

1794
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:17,800
Speaker 9: Sure appreciate that a man condition all ripped up and there.

1795
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, ready to see out there.

1796
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:23,000
Speaker 2: Good luck a Javon Solomon joining us here on the

1797
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:24,800
Speaker 2: one Bill's Live set. We'll take a break and be

1798
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 2: back to wrap things up next. Stay tuned.

1799
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:45,280
Speaker 5: A good conversation there at Javon Solomon.

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01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:45,840
Speaker 3: If you missed it.

1801
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:48,000
Speaker 2: You can listen to the rerack of the show either

1802
01:27:48,040 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 2: on the Bills YouTube channel or at the bottom of

1803
01:27:50,960 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 2: Buffalo bills dot Com about.

1804
01:27:52,280 --> 01:27:54,479
Speaker 3: A half hour after we're off the air.

1805
01:27:55,720 --> 01:28:01,719
Speaker 2: Interesting that he said, Keon and Duayne Carter, Uh yeah,

1806
01:28:01,760 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: and we know and Carter knows he's on notice, just

1807
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,120
Speaker 2: like javan is with all the new faces here right

1808
01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 2: plus defensive line.

1809
01:28:09,439 --> 01:28:11,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I and I noticed Dwayne Carter when they

1810
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:14,600
Speaker 1: were out here just doing a little individual you know,

1811
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: paddy cake drills. Both those guys feel different about themselves

1812
01:28:19,320 --> 01:28:21,120
Speaker 1: coming into this year. They feel, you know, you've got

1813
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:23,960
Speaker 1: You've got that year under your belt. It's like, man,

1814
01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,599
Speaker 1: I gotta go. Plus they drafted a bunch of guys,

1815
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 1: got a bunch of new faces, and yes it you

1816
01:28:29,320 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 1: can perceive it as like, wow, they're they're gonna try

1817
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:34,479
Speaker 1: and replace me or whatever, but more accurately is like,

1818
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 1: you know what, this thing's wide open. Let's go. I'm

1819
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,160
Speaker 1: gonna use what I know and what I learned. I'm

1820
01:28:39,160 --> 01:28:41,439
Speaker 1: gonna earn my spot and even get a bigger role.

1821
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Let's go. That's why these guys like Javon and Twin

1822
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: and Dwayn Carter have Bill's DNA.

1823
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 3: Let's go the to motivate them.

1824
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, Jess on the tweets, she says, keon Coleman

1825
01:28:56,240 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 2: and Cole Bishop, go Bills.

1826
01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:00,519
Speaker 3: Adam says it needs to be cold Bishop. If he

1827
01:29:00,560 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 3: doesn't make big strides forward this year, he could be

1828
01:29:03,240 --> 01:29:05,120
Speaker 3: the safety version of kyer Elam.

1829
01:29:05,479 --> 01:29:07,679
Speaker 2: Jack takes a little bit more of a positive approach.

1830
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 2: He says, I pray it's Bishop. He has great athletic ability,

1831
01:29:10,600 --> 01:29:12,080
Speaker 2: better than anyone else on the back end.

1832
01:29:12,120 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 3: Good safeties are a key to McDermott's defense.

1833
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,519
Speaker 2: They need the game to slow down for Bishop for

1834
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:19,000
Speaker 2: him to put it all together mentally, also hoping Buffalo

1835
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,920
Speaker 2: Joe can improve on special teams. And finally, Steve says,

1836
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,280
Speaker 2: I'm hoping it's key on Colemany as the body type

1837
01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 2: to be the go to guy in crucial situations when

1838
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,560
Speaker 2: you need to make a play. That would be a

1839
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 2: nice thing to have in this offense. Good I think

1840
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,360
Speaker 2: good selections from the second year player pool.

1841
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:41,360
Speaker 3: And it was pretty wide ranging.

1842
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,360
Speaker 5: So yeah, thanks for all the submissions.

1843
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,840
Speaker 2: Today, Steve and I will do it all over again

1844
01:29:47,400 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 2: for the final day of mandatory mini camp.

1845
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 3: We'll see at one o'clock

1846
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:01,680
Speaker 11: Two