Speaker 1: Forever. Look mad oh, I see you? Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness ding dong less cultures
Speaker 1: calling and this lifestyle isn't for me, okay. And we
Speaker 1: were just literally talking about this before we hit record.
Speaker 1: Um we've both decided that just there's too much space
Speaker 1: in between things here, you know, like literally, figuratively. Um, chronologically, yes, yes, chronologically,
Speaker 1: there's too much space. I can't do conversations with lift d. Baby.
Speaker 1: Here's what you do. You got hate as soon as
Speaker 1: you sit down, do you might have? You put my
Speaker 1: headphones in? And they have no choice, say, And I'm
Speaker 1: sure the listeners would think I would be the one
Speaker 1: who's like much like more direct, and I would think
Speaker 1: that they think you're the nicer one out of the
Speaker 1: two of us. But apparently that's not true. Um a
Speaker 1: rule of culture number fifty as nice as Matt. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: well we'll we'll contest that, okay. So we have an
Speaker 1: amazing guest with us today, amazing, truly, truly a taste maker,
Speaker 1: truly an arbiter of the culture. I mean dilatant. So
Speaker 1: we are not the Doyens, shall I don't know one
Speaker 1: of the words means but I'm happy to pretend. Sure. Okay.
Speaker 1: So he is a writer critic at The Daily Based.
Speaker 1: You've seen his work on MTV News BuzzFeed. It's also
Speaker 1: the host of the Amazing podcast on Crooked Media. Keep
Speaker 1: it um. He's an icon. Here we have Ira Madison
Speaker 1: the Third Yes, hill h Hello, you know I love
Speaker 1: the word doyan doyane. Yeah, okay, great, what is it?
Speaker 1: What is it? It's like the highest act they do. Yes, okay, yes, yes, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: but like just in terms of skill, there's no like
Speaker 1: as Australian theater. Because she bought her husband a company. Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Do we see oceans eate? I did? Okay, and believe
Speaker 1: that she was the Doane of the group. Who was
Speaker 1: she was the fashion Diana of the group. Yes, the suits,
Speaker 1: the track jacket, yeah, it was all the boots on
Speaker 1: bang Yeah, the lesbian cut. She was giving me lesbian energy.
Speaker 1: I thought she and Sandra were former lovers. That could
Speaker 1: have been a good platform. There weren't any plot points
Speaker 1: in the movie, actually, very very few. My favorite part
Speaker 1: was Rihanna's sister. Yeah, she's she turned it. She was great,
Speaker 1: and you believed that they were siblings. And that is
Speaker 1: a testament to Rihanna. Brianna is a natural actress. We
Speaker 1: want to see more Rihanna performances. I want to know
Speaker 1: can she do more than smoke a blunt on screen?
Speaker 1: I mean, and have we seen Battleship? She apparently punches
Speaker 1: punches the buttons. Did you see Bates Motowel? Okay? Wait,
Speaker 1: apparently really was good in Bates Motel? Yeah, what did
Speaker 1: she do? I didn't? She plays um the Yeah? Cool?
Speaker 1: She does not die. There's a twist. She realizes this
Speaker 1: Norman Bates as creepy as fuck. Yeah so, and she
Speaker 1: literally says something like funk this. There's always but this
Speaker 1: is what we like about Rihanna as she she brings
Speaker 1: to the role, each role some layer of herself, some
Speaker 1: some some dosage of her. She's an Addison esque actress.
Speaker 1: Oh she's not a Blanchet, you know. I think it's
Speaker 1: very fair. I think Kate brings Kate. I do not
Speaker 1: you see it for the white Hollyberry? Is that? What?
Speaker 1: Do you think? I'm tired of her? Are we all?
Speaker 1: I'm tired of her being in the papers. Get out
Speaker 1: of the papers. Like, first of all, we're also always
Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, I love Jennifer Anniston. I
Speaker 1: wish she could, like, you know, find a man, because
Speaker 1: like I feel like people think that she's like a
Speaker 1: surrogate for them. If she can find a man, I
Speaker 1: can find a man. It's like you had Brad Pitt,
Speaker 1: you had justin three you had friends. All three of
Speaker 1: them are over. She couldn't keep a man or a project,
Speaker 1: just like Hallie Berry. Just like, here's the thing. I
Speaker 1: don't believe that Hallie Berry and Jennifer Aniston are comfortable
Speaker 1: because I do think that Hallie Berry has quite the range, right,
Speaker 1: I just mean in terms of in terms of the
Speaker 1: public losing things. What what can we say that Halle
Speaker 1: Berry is also Jennifer Anniston has been walking around with
Speaker 1: that what we call the Rachel for a long time.
Speaker 1: Is the Rachel. First of all, is a is a
Speaker 1: black girl wig bear around for decade and it's and
Speaker 1: it's and it's black girl's quick drag too. It's quick drag,
Speaker 1: and it's you would not come out the house in
Speaker 1: that way. It's shaking up white people walking around with
Speaker 1: the Rachel. I will say, I think the iconic Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know for sure, for sure, I think the iconic
Speaker 1: hair style in Friends was actually Monica's hairstyle, or when
Speaker 1: Phoebe would put her hair up and use like the
Speaker 1: pencils like cute little, Yeah, she had a cute up, dudes.
Speaker 1: This was back when they would do like little they
Speaker 1: would wear like a cheap how they would do like
Speaker 1: an appropriatively Asian bun and like, do you feel that
Speaker 1: it was appropriately I mean a little. I'm not going
Speaker 1: to say, and I will say that Friends with all
Speaker 1: the cats getting the chopsticks put it in my bun?
Speaker 1: There you got just I think I think, Look, it's
Speaker 1: fine for Nikki to use that because anti anti Asian,
Speaker 1: because um Asians have profited off anti blackness, but black
Speaker 1: people have not necessarily profited off anti Asian Asian nous, right,
Speaker 1: But Friends with an all white cast, it does profit
Speaker 1: off anti Asian nous that they also? Were you a
Speaker 1: Friends fan? But you weren't things standing for Friends? Like
Speaker 1: I look back, and I'm like, I don't care. Really, Yes,
Speaker 1: I watched every episode at some point, and I don't
Speaker 1: watch it on Netflix though. Sure. Yeah, the other day
Speaker 1: I saw someone shared like a quiz like these are
Speaker 1: You're a real fan if you know this whatever. In Friends,
Speaker 1: I was like, are we still talking about this? Damn?
Speaker 1: People can't let it go. When Fraser is streaming, when
Speaker 1: Cheers is on Spin City, Spin City? Where's news radio?
Speaker 1: Where's Caroline in the city. Oh, I didn't watch that,
Speaker 1: but I will say Friends, she doesn't hold up. She
Speaker 1: doesn't hold because no, because commonly, commonly a large plot
Speaker 1: point and most episodes will be that they are panicked over,
Speaker 1: like the gay panic type of comedy, like the three
Speaker 1: of them, like like like one time they woke up
Speaker 1: in a bed together and it was hilarity. Honey, the
Speaker 1: audience was eisode. Yeah, there was a there was a
Speaker 1: nap episode where Joey and I think Ross were like
Speaker 1: napping together and then they realized they really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: What if in the last episode, like Rachel had run
Speaker 1: in and should I got off the plane and Ross
Speaker 1: is like, actually this is oh yeah, I'm gay with Joey.
Speaker 1: With Joey, that would have been hot. I loved Joey too.
Speaker 1: Did you think that Joey was the comedic energy of
Speaker 1: the show. No, you should not have gotten a spin
Speaker 1: off so stupid, I mean r I p dre damonteo though. Oh,
Speaker 1: my god. And also Jennifer Cool is there for hire
Speaker 1: all as they always do. But um no, if anyone
Speaker 1: should have gotten a spinoff, should have been feeding right
Speaker 1: right right. But I believe that a spin off parent
Speaker 1: trapped that show, that act apparent. But I would say,
Speaker 1: I would say that we are more thankful that we
Speaker 1: had to come back. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, I
Speaker 1: don't believe we would have had both. I'm sure. I think.
Speaker 1: Here's how I know that, I mean, it's for your consideration.
Speaker 1: Season here is because you see Megan am Ram posters everywhere. Yes,
Speaker 1: we see Megan am Ram posters everywhere on Hollywood, And
Speaker 1: it's just a reminder for everyone that's maybe an EMY
Speaker 1: voter that listens to the show, you can vote for
Speaker 1: Megan m Ram and outstanding Actress in a short form
Speaker 1: web series from comedy or drama series. Unfortunately, I am
Speaker 1: not in the series enough to be nominally in the
Speaker 1: one episode. But if the series wins you you can
Speaker 1: go to the ceremony and I to tell people nominated.
Speaker 1: There you go and you are in a pivotal episode
Speaker 1: where she finds out she is Korean, um and you
Speaker 1: give her the permission to um. But we should say that,
Speaker 1: um if that becomes a problem. It was Lena Dunham's idea, yes,
Speaker 1: and that is those are iris words, right, Okay, but
Speaker 1: I want to say that I think of her. Yes,
Speaker 1: let's go watch. Finally watched because I was in yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about what we felt about Lena on Drag Race.
Speaker 1: You know what I am. I tried not to be
Speaker 1: one of those people who mean to her, mostly because
Speaker 1: she follows me on Twitter and I find it hard
Speaker 1: to be mean to my Twitter followers. Right right, celebrities,
Speaker 1: there is my kryptonite. All right, follow me on Twitter.
Speaker 1: I might not be mean to you. Try it Trump,
Speaker 1: But she seemed so uncomfortable, uncomfortable, and she also just
Speaker 1: seemed like she was paid to be there to stand
Speaker 1: Eureka ya original and you're doing because she's a big girl. Yeah, honestly,
Speaker 1: it really was too much from it well, and during
Speaker 1: on Touch, she goes back into the into the untucked
Speaker 1: room and she's like, she goes up to Eureka. She's
Speaker 1: literally like, I knew last season that you were going
Speaker 1: to come back and take this whole thing. Like another
Speaker 1: contests are like, oh my, um, Lena, we wrote in
Speaker 1: our in our recap for Vulture that um, like Lena
Speaker 1: probably went on on SAT and like went up to
Speaker 1: the sound mixer and was like, I'm such a fan
Speaker 1: of your work like that. I worked with her before
Speaker 1: on one thing and she came up and she was like,
Speaker 1: I'm such a fan. I was like, what have you
Speaker 1: seen me do? Yeah? She can't wait, to be honest,
Speaker 1: and then she followed me on Instagram and then unfollowed, unfollowed.
Speaker 1: I don't know why it kept be my oppressive Instagram stories.
Speaker 1: Hairs Hers isn't oppressive. They're a lot, but you know what,
Speaker 1: they are a lot? Thank you for bringing the truth.
Speaker 1: As long as Jim Henson is off the air, I
Speaker 1: can get my daily dose of muffet? Do you feel
Speaker 1: that I give muppet? I am a wide mouth, You've
Speaker 1: got a long face. I am constantly like, who has
Speaker 1: their hands up? Math? I'm constantly like that. Sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't even know. I'm like, who has their hands on me?
Speaker 1: To night? Um? Okay, so listen, UM, I just want
Speaker 1: to say really quickly before we ask the question, UM,
Speaker 1: it's for your consideration season. I feel like, um, oh
Speaker 1: my god, where was I coming with this? Never mind?
Speaker 1: If you remember it's bring it up later. Yeah, it's appropriate. Um,
Speaker 1: when we have a note, we'll take that note and
Speaker 1: we implemented in the next performances. Because you can't go back.
Speaker 1: You can't. I was going to drag some some TV
Speaker 1: show for not being emy worthy, but suits, suits, Oh
Speaker 1: my god, suits, Yeah, cancel it. Not without Megan Markle exactly.
Speaker 1: Mark was in the pilot of the reboot a character
Speaker 1: head in a jeep. Oh my god, she gave head
Speaker 1: in a jeep. And now she's royalty, the Duchess of Sussex.
Speaker 1: I remember literally zero things from that night or two pilot.
Speaker 1: I'll watch this. I did tune in because I wanted
Speaker 1: to see, like Shannon already slay Yeah, but she did not. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't think that you can't. Actually, this is the
Speaker 1: rule of culture number. You can't slay if the material
Speaker 1: doesn't allow you toye. But also that's not always true.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I think someone takes something on slay worthy and
Speaker 1: they slay the cast emotions A there you go, But
Speaker 1: the script was bad. Did you think the direct there
Speaker 1: was bad? Really? Ross is a bad director. You don't
Speaker 1: like your games in the first two No, they're pretty good.
Speaker 1: They're fine, but like the real Hunger Games is three
Speaker 1: part one give you like seventies psycho thrillers. I thought
Speaker 1: Catching Fire was legit good, I think because of the material, actors,
Speaker 1: and it's hard to talk out like a movie like that.
Speaker 1: This was just like this needed to be a heist,
Speaker 1: it needed to be sexy. It was just there was
Speaker 1: also no plot. There was very little plot there was,
Speaker 1: that's true. And also I thought it could have gotten
Speaker 1: interesting there at the end, like with um, James Cordon
Speaker 1: coming in, But then I don't think James Cordon is
Speaker 1: going to come in and make anything like more interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't even want to think about James honestly, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was I thought, why wasn't that character a woman? Why?
Speaker 1: Why are and also why is it Cordon? So where
Speaker 1: was the Andy Garcia character where there was no villain
Speaker 1: and there was no villain trying to catch sand Rain
Speaker 1: like this, and James Gordon should have been a woman,
Speaker 1: and she should have been like waiting for her outside
Speaker 1: the prison like I'm gonna get you and just so yeah,
Speaker 1: and she should have been played by Penelope crew Now
Speaker 1: I think for the sequel there, okay, Penelope great, I'm
Speaker 1: thinking Angelina comes in for nine A guy, I guess
Speaker 1: I would see. I'm always down for Michelle. We used
Speaker 1: to say the children have forgotten Michelle, but this year,
Speaker 1: I feel like the children remember Michelle. I love I
Speaker 1: love Michelle. She is. She is a white auntie. Um,
Speaker 1: but also supported Angelina. You know, a guess a fucking
Speaker 1: bad bit. Black people love angel she is well. First
Speaker 1: of all, she is a light skinned, white woman of color,
Speaker 1: and um, we love um. Black people watch like action movies.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, and so she give you. Some people
Speaker 1: are always confused about like what white stars we love.
Speaker 1: It's just like I grew up watching my uh my
Speaker 1: mom and like my grandmother and like my aunts and
Speaker 1: stuff like they will love them some Angelina Jolie h
Speaker 1: A friend asked me last night, or like, is Jennifer
Speaker 1: Garner a white gay thing? And I was like, currently, yes,
Speaker 1: we love Alias, we love Alias. And also did you
Speaker 1: see the trailer for her new movie. I know, but
Speaker 1: she's just like shooting up Mexicans and I don't think
Speaker 1: we can I don't think we can support that. We
Speaker 1: don't know there, we don't know. I think that it
Speaker 1: was like these Mexicans kill her family, and then she's like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go kill the cartel. Okay, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: get us, and she every Mexican, I see, it's racist.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? Don't we respect? Don't we respect that?
Speaker 1: She's been able to combine her brands of doing like
Speaker 1: every month, kick Flip with a gun and also mom
Speaker 1: because she's taking her entire brand from her early career
Speaker 1: and her entire brand from the last ten years and
Speaker 1: combining them to make something super Jennifer Garner, Yes, you know,
Speaker 1: but black people don't respect that. Every black person has
Speaker 1: to multitask. There you go, there you go. Okay, I
Speaker 1: don't know if I mean first first of all, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what it owns like several countries, Yeah, she
Speaker 1: owns them. She she Pie Piper, multiple children. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: Salt changeling. She managed to make people still like her
Speaker 1: after making out with her brother. She fully did mouth
Speaker 1: on mouth, carry blood around on red carpet, and then
Speaker 1: she went to glam like like Ampham or whatever that
Speaker 1: places that gives food two kids, lamb fan. She like
Speaker 1: category is she is walking at every category is international, savior, beautiful,
Speaker 1: She's giving Honestly, I'm very up and down with Angelina
Speaker 1: Jolie because and it's interesting we talked about Angelina Jolie
Speaker 1: after discussing Jennifer Anison earlier. They're often discussed side by side,
Speaker 1: and this podcast is no exception. Yes, you're well, that's okay,
Speaker 1: So that that that's been you know, declared. I have
Speaker 1: always identified as more of an Aniston than an Angelina
Speaker 1: because I feel that if I become successful in an
Speaker 1: acting capacity, it will be You're going to pretend to
Speaker 1: drink smart water to yes, because I don't, because I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll give me Like do you know the
Speaker 1: only time I drink smart water is when I buy
Speaker 1: a bottle of water before I get on the airplane water.
Speaker 1: I get it. But you understand that like these actresses,
Speaker 1: in order to make their supplemental income, they can either
Speaker 1: decide to do the shitty romantic comedies and the product placements,
Speaker 1: or they can become fashion icon of the world. And
Speaker 1: not everyone can become fashion icon of the world because
Speaker 1: they don't have the bone structure, honey, and so I
Speaker 1: feel a haircut, yes, and so I feel that if
Speaker 1: I were to become successful, I would unfortunately go the
Speaker 1: route of product placement and dumbass movies and not fashion
Speaker 1: fashion fashion, fragrance, fragrance, fragrance, even though I would love
Speaker 1: to have a fragrance and will be called gay son
Speaker 1: gay s U n s O N. Okay, this is new.
Speaker 1: This is you keep changing the fragrance name and it's
Speaker 1: what was my last fragrance? Um? I was gonna have
Speaker 1: one called bold? Uh you you were gonna. I can't
Speaker 1: keep track of them. I'm sorry they can't. That's your
Speaker 1: job is to keep track of my products. Um three
Speaker 1: that basic, That's what That's what it was. That's what
Speaker 1: the last one was. Basic. Yeah. Well, last night we
Speaker 1: were on pop Rock and he said, what would your
Speaker 1: house be called if you had a house like in Pose?
Speaker 1: And I said, house of Basic? Are we watching Pose?
Speaker 1: Of course? What do we think? What do we think?
Speaker 1: What do we really think? I? Okay, great, how do
Speaker 1: you do it? Well? We live for it, We live
Speaker 1: for it. The writing is like very classic Ryan Murphy writing.
Speaker 1: Could you believe? I mean it's I call it the
Speaker 1: Dynasty reboots. That writing is very original version of Dynasty.
Speaker 1: I mean I'm living but I'm also I mean, okay, sure,
Speaker 1: original version of Dynasty. All right, now you're as opposed
Speaker 1: to the rebo. I think it depends on whose mouth
Speaker 1: it's coming out of where whether the dialogue works, like
Speaker 1: we're pretty iffy on Dominique Jackson in the first episode.
Speaker 1: But then I looked back and I loved when like,
Speaker 1: um uh Blanca was leaving the house and um uh,
Speaker 1: what's elect her just tosses her head back over our
Speaker 1: shoulder and goes, you'll be back. And I was like, no,
Speaker 1: that's good, No, it's good. It's good at the museum, yes,
Speaker 1: shack pot, Yes, it's too good not to be seen.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's pretty great. And also, of course
Speaker 1: the famous like mini monologue she gave I come up
Speaker 1: into anyway, I passed, gorgeous, this is this is on her? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then in the second episode, um, oh my god,
Speaker 1: oh oh yes, this is on her. It's on the house.
Speaker 1: I love it. And then she has another you missed this,
Speaker 1: but after she bails um blank at a jail, she goes,
Speaker 1: um blank, is like, are you going uptown? They're getting
Speaker 1: in the car. Yes, the subway is that way? You
Speaker 1: should get um I love it. Sure, I mean, okay,
Speaker 1: that's a great way to put it, though, it's it's
Speaker 1: the Dynasty rebit we deserve. It is like so like
Speaker 1: and as in as in Dynasty, the writing works saying
Speaker 1: swims depending on who is delivering the line. Right, true,
Speaker 1: it is like you have either have your dying Carols
Speaker 1: or you have your whoever that bit was, who played
Speaker 1: Crystal Carrington? Like, wow, that's shady. Crystal was always like
Speaker 1: boring as hell. You were always on Alexis side, always
Speaker 1: always yes, I mean they tried to make as the
Speaker 1: villain and it was like for her. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1: We did a show called Nights when we were both
Speaker 1: in full drag performing an episode of an episode of
Speaker 1: like a soap that we wrote. And now I'm feeling
Speaker 1: the shade from you because you told me that I
Speaker 1: was the Linda Evans and you were. No, I've always
Speaker 1: said that I was Linda. The Linda Evans was the
Speaker 1: crystalas between the guy Brandham has said that you are
Speaker 1: the Alexis, I am the Crystal, Like that is the
Speaker 1: trust anyway, another arbiter of dominate Champagne. It's barent. It
Speaker 1: must have been frozen in the can you know you've
Speaker 1: seen the same clip as us Okay, bit John Blast,
Speaker 1: I've watched every episode. Are you like a big fan? Yes,
Speaker 1: I guess my favorite. Okay, well this is where we
Speaker 1: ask you to follow me on Instagram until after. But
Speaker 1: last year I watched the entire series of Dynasty, and
Speaker 1: my Instagram stories were just clips nine seasons. You were
Speaker 1: doing what Phoebe Robinson did with Game of Thrones there
Speaker 1: for quite a minute through it. Okay, this is where
Speaker 1: we ask you the question we ask all of our guests,
Speaker 1: which is what is the culture? That made you say
Speaker 1: culture is for me? Made you step in a cultural direction. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was like that moment in um in Pocahonas when
Speaker 1: she rolled when she rolls up, when she rolls up
Speaker 1: to the two paths, and one path was the culture
Speaker 1: and one path was you know, a life you'll never know. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, my my father wasn't a part of my
Speaker 1: family life, you know, UM for much of my childhood.
Speaker 1: And I remember visiting him in New York and um,
Speaker 1: the streets, you know, the streets were bright and they
Speaker 1: were sunny, but you know, just down the corner you
Speaker 1: could see the decadence of New York and the pain.
Speaker 1: And you know, he took me to a museum and there,
Speaker 1: of course we're the luminaries Andy Warhol Baskuyacht and we
Speaker 1: we all hung out and you know, um, I became
Speaker 1: part of Andy Warhol's factory and um, you know I
Speaker 1: become famous ever since that. And you know, Gretchen Mall
Speaker 1: played me. We are really were living at culture. What
Speaker 1: really got me in it was probably just like Buffy honestly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So Sarah Michelle Geller is someone that you love. I
Speaker 1: love her, Yeah, I'll never forget her. I helped her
Speaker 1: on to what I used to be a barista, you know,
Speaker 1: before my come up and um, and she came up
Speaker 1: to me once when I was a barista at this
Speaker 1: place coffee Commissary in Burbank and this was when she
Speaker 1: was on The Crazy Ones with Robin Woods. I p.
Speaker 1: She came over to me with her iPad. Mm hmmm,
Speaker 1: I don't know how to get on the WiFi? Could
Speaker 1: you help me? And she gave me her I've had
Speaker 1: part of me wanted to be like scroll with me
Speaker 1: and like but I logged her onto the WiFi and
Speaker 1: you sent her on her way. Did you tell her
Speaker 1: that you were a huge fan and then one day
Speaker 1: you'd answer with her name as to what culture influenced
Speaker 1: you know. But then I met her again when I
Speaker 1: was at BuzzFeed after the Glow, after the and I
Speaker 1: did not get to interview her. I remember being really
Speaker 1: pissed that the people who ran the parents section at
Speaker 1: BuzzFeed had her come in and talk about like mom stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was like, bitch, we could have talked about
Speaker 1: Buffy yea, um, but so I have a lot of
Speaker 1: like graphic T shirts. I was wearing a Buffy shirt
Speaker 1: that day by accident, but it was the Christie Swanson
Speaker 1: ninety two Buffies Okay original movie, and she saw it.
Speaker 1: That's not me, did you really? Yeah? But I was,
Speaker 1: but I was able to tell her. She stopped over
Speaker 1: and talk to me and Louis Pittsman who worked with me,
Speaker 1: and he and I were both like, we love you.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I mean I love telling someone that that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it has to be the right moment, but you gotta,
Speaker 1: I feel like, you gotta get that out there for
Speaker 1: certain people. Yeah. Yeah, I did it to Eileen Davidson
Speaker 1: because I've watched Days of our Lives, so you're a
Speaker 1: stand in the correct way. Yeah, she's I mean, winner
Speaker 1: two times. That's right, she's serving on on Days of
Speaker 1: World Lives. I was, I told her. I interviewed her
Speaker 1: when she was on rest Beverly Hills. Then I also
Speaker 1: saw her at the Days of Lives fiftieth anniversary party. Um,
Speaker 1: that's a ticket score. Also Hall Marlena Um came over
Speaker 1: to me and was like, excuse me, you just take
Speaker 1: a photo of me, and oh my god, wow, And
Speaker 1: there was that that that's a truly after the glow moment.
Speaker 1: You feel that someone company and be like, excuse me,
Speaker 1: couldn't mean that you are being recognized in your moment
Speaker 1: of glass. She was like, now I'm gonna throw a
Speaker 1: bone under the bus. We recently were at a party
Speaker 1: for Vulture Festival of the opening party and someone was like, Hi,
Speaker 1: can we get a picture? And Bone was like yeah
Speaker 1: and put his arm around me and like posed, and
Speaker 1: I did too, and then she goes, oh no, I meant,
Speaker 1: could you take one of my friends? And we literally screamed.
Speaker 1: We were like, oh my god, We've never We've never
Speaker 1: felt worse. He was like literally like sure, and it
Speaker 1: was just like such a Snapling twit moment culture number
Speaker 1: four field. Yeah, wait, hold on Sally is slang? What
Speaker 1: is she doing when she said on Twitter, um, the
Speaker 1: thing about Samanthay was wrong to call cunts are powerful, loving,
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Speaker 1: a new gig announcement, new gig alart this and I
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Speaker 1: my god. Okay, so what's what's the gig? What are we?
Speaker 1: What are we writing? On a Netflix untitled teen sci
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Speaker 1: I feel like so, I I have a little panic
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Speaker 1: How long are your dearly beast? Just like a year?
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Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, shake it out. Okay, what's a
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Speaker 1: like Selena. You know what I will. I will actually
Speaker 1: always stand because I watched every episode of which got
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Speaker 1: am not going to get into this with Matt. Matt
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Speaker 1: and this is our segment. We take one minute to
Speaker 1: rail against something in culture that's sucking pissing us off. Um,
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Speaker 1: gonna be very specific to where the city we're in,
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Speaker 1: um this is Bowen Yang's I don't think so honey
Speaker 1: and his time starts now. I don't think so many
Speaker 1: of the Starbucks on Grand Avenue in Sixth Street here
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Speaker 1: more than two minutes to put together to assemble, no bitch,
Speaker 1: And I don't think so, honey. I think his name
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Speaker 1: waiting for a coffee and ice coffee. As if my
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Speaker 1: I don't. Um, okay, this is your turn, Well hold on, wait,
Speaker 1: let me just make sure I want to do this one. Okay,
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Speaker 1: And this is Matt Rodgers is I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: As time starts now, I don't think so, honey. People
Speaker 1: who are not rooting for Lady Gaga to be a
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Speaker 1: because her body hurts from giving you entertainment. She wakes
Speaker 1: up every goddamn day of her life and tries to
Speaker 1: slay you. And you're gonna see this trailer and be like,
Speaker 1: m that'll be pulpy and bullshit. No bitch, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be good and she will win the awards. I am
Speaker 1: rooting for her and I want her to succeed because
Speaker 1: I believe in rewarding extremely talented people who work extremely hard.
Speaker 1: My dad always said, um, hard work beats talent when
Speaker 1: talent doesn't work hard. And guess what when you have
Speaker 1: the talent and you have the drive, boom, bitch and
Speaker 1: she's out there slaying it. The trailer looks great by Cooper,
Speaker 1: have the chem Street here, there's a scene with a
Speaker 1: single tier. She is going to uniquely slay you. In
Speaker 1: terms of the live vocals and then if you really
Speaker 1: pause the trailer when there's the montage at the end,
Speaker 1: it looks to be some fierce acting. So I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey, if you don't want to have joy
Speaker 1: in your life and watch Lady Gotta Slight and Stars,
Speaker 1: I just think that it is ridiculous that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: want something to be good. It's like, who is rooting
Speaker 1: against her? Though? I feel that there are people who
Speaker 1: are watching the trailer and then they're saying Lady Got
Speaker 1: about trying to act, or there's people that are like, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: it's like people who are like people who say, how
Speaker 1: dare Lady Got can come in here and think she
Speaker 1: can win an acting oscar and take it from Glen Close.
Speaker 1: The gays are out there saying it. They think it's
Speaker 1: Glen Close as year. Well maybe it's not. Let's watch
Speaker 1: all the performances. I think. Um, I think Glenn Close
Speaker 1: is probably like depleted all her good will ever since
Speaker 1: Albert Nams with the queer community. This is a hot take.
Speaker 1: This is a hot take. But everyone if if if
Speaker 1: you're supposed to have an oscar, you'll get one, okay,
Speaker 1: whatever that means, get one. And if you and if
Speaker 1: and if you don't have one, you're not paying the
Speaker 1: right people. This is Hollywood been a scheme. Okay, well
Speaker 1: well well we can talk about this some other time.
Speaker 1: Let's table that. But now we have to go to
Speaker 1: Iron Madison the thirds. I don't think so, honey. Are
Speaker 1: you ready? Yeah? Really unprecedented. His time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, Neo Patrick. All right, First of all,
Speaker 1: he is out here tweeting about I don't know who
Speaker 1: Rachel Bloom is at the Tony Awards and then Tony
Speaker 1: and then Rachel has to respond like you know me,
Speaker 1: My husband wrote on your show you've met me, And
Speaker 1: it seemed like he was tweeting while high, and he
Speaker 1: was also like Gideon was like talking to me that
Speaker 1: did should know who the fuck she is too. This
Speaker 1: is ridiculous. I don't think so, hunting Neil Patrick Harris
Speaker 1: tweet tig in general. Last time he won viral for
Speaker 1: a tweet is when he tried to drag Wesley Morris
Speaker 1: for saying that Black fifteen did not like um that
Speaker 1: fucking Billboards movie. Yeah we didn't like it. Sorry you
Speaker 1: liked it. You don't even have any black friends. White
Speaker 1: chorus dancers need to watch crazy girlfriends. And that's and
Speaker 1: I guess what you did? The one I was going
Speaker 1: to do tonight at the live show, and now I
Speaker 1: have to do another one. Thievery Okay, thievery and trickery
Speaker 1: and tomfoolery at the ball. Um we I have to say,
Speaker 1: I'll be right there. Okay, is here everyone tonight. This
Speaker 1: is something we're gonna keep recording because you have time
Speaker 1: to fill you love you. This is so fun and
Speaker 1: he looks fierce and you'll see photos of it at
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Let's take our fake photo.
Speaker 1: Let's take our fake photo. Let's do it there unless
Speaker 1: you want to do a live photo right now. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: but we'll see you buy doyanee. Everyone give it up
Speaker 1: for the doyanne. Okay, listen, can we spill a little
Speaker 1: bit of tea about no Patrick Harriss because I was
Speaker 1: going to do that as my I don't think so,
Speaker 1: honey tonight. By the way, that was lovely and this
Speaker 1: is very new for us to have a ghost. You
Speaker 1: know what. Let's start drama. Iron Madison stormed out of here.
Speaker 1: He stormed out anyway. Um No, there's no drama. It
Speaker 1: was fucking amazing. And also he's wearing a gray jacket
Speaker 1: with a Beyonce shirt underneath, and the nails are painted
Speaker 1: and nails are painted lost top coat is electro worthy. Um, Okay,
Speaker 1: you go. Here's what I have to say about No,
Speaker 1: Patrick Carss. Neil Patrick Harris is a fucking board game.
Speaker 1: Why are his kids named Gideon? And are they for sale?
Speaker 1: Are they fucking pre anti? Are they sucking Antebellum slave owners?
Speaker 1: I shouldn't say that, No, listen, I support you saying that.
Speaker 1: And also how producer Brett is like hates that we
Speaker 1: should mention how producer Brett because I literally just just
Speaker 1: walked in and it's gonna be a long engagement along engagement.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. They're thinking end of the year. Two amazing.
Speaker 1: I love it. Make a drawn out like a have
Speaker 1: a long engagement. Honey, it's a Pixar movie engagement. Yes, honey,
Speaker 1: make sure we are anticipating it as much as we
Speaker 1: are anticipating incredible to Yes. Okay, So Neil Patrick Harris,
Speaker 1: I mean just I called him on Twitter. Hello, Milady Gay.
Speaker 1: Here's a hello, Milady Gay. Fuck you suck you from
Speaker 1: bitch magic isn't magic. Magic, it's not reorry. Magic doesn't suck.
Speaker 1: Magic is great. No, Neil Patrick Harris doing magic sucks.
Speaker 1: Magic does suck. Also, that variety show he had, he
Speaker 1: tried to have, here's what's wrong with that. How dared you,
Speaker 1: as a gay man get on the same stage as
Speaker 1: Nicole Scherzinger and say, go stand on the side and
Speaker 1: comment on what I do. Every gay man worth their
Speaker 1: salt knows that when you are in the same rooms Nicole,
Speaker 1: you left her up. You left her up because guess what,
Speaker 1: she fights tooth and nail. She hasn't got that type
Speaker 1: where she has the talent and the hard work. And
Speaker 1: people still are like, no, you do not do that. Ever,
Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris, Like even sucking him on How I
Speaker 1: Met Your Mother is just such like a I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what's bad, bad performance. Here's what's funked up about
Speaker 1: about Neil Patrick Harris and How I Met your Mother?
Speaker 1: That was misogynny honey, And they were able to get
Speaker 1: away with it as intensely as they did because he
Speaker 1: was a gay man and he is party to that. Oh,
Speaker 1: he's a he's a womanizer. Let's make him a reprehensible
Speaker 1: character on TV that we will allow because he's gay
Speaker 1: and real stay in real life. Also, like I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be I'm I'm sort of backing up a little
Speaker 1: bit with my um sort of vitriol for white gayness.
Speaker 1: Um wow, But with Neil, like the Neil is just
Speaker 1: emblematic of no, no, no no. I think he's exactly right.
Speaker 1: He does not have one. Maybe Beati Wong. He's been
Speaker 1: invited to one of the parties. Yeah, but then he's like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Beatie makes kanji, Beatie makes porridge, and you
Speaker 1: get I learned, I learned how to use chopsticks and
Speaker 1: beats parties. Fuck you. I am no longer a fan,
Speaker 1: and honestly, I have Rachel Rachel's family. I haven't even
Speaker 1: Rachel his family, and I haven't even mentioned the garbage
Speaker 1: that was this tweet. Why are you sitting at home?
Speaker 1: Especially and also this is punching down what you know?
Speaker 1: I hate um. Why are you sitting at home and
Speaker 1: you shitty asked kids who by the way, fucking kids, bitch,
Speaker 1: you are trying too hard on a Halloween Okay, look,
Speaker 1: I got it, and you are gay. Um, Like, it
Speaker 1: doesn't have to be that couple assists for your children?
Speaker 1: Fuck you When he sits there and tweets who is
Speaker 1: this woman hosting backstage in the top hat? Gideon says,
Speaker 1: she says like, and oh my god, a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: confused dot dot dot, So what are you suggesting that
Speaker 1: she shouldn't have the job? Also, why don't you know
Speaker 1: who Rachel Bloom is? Also why like stop letting your
Speaker 1: child like dictate a woman's words. Honestly the whole stop letting.
Speaker 1: It's actually rule culture N three, stop latting your child
Speaker 1: dictator woman's words. I couldn't believe he had like just
Speaker 1: like the like self assurance to tweet something like that.
Speaker 1: I was like, this is so stupid. Obviously this person
Speaker 1: is like having fun doing it their way, like trying
Speaker 1: to spice up the tonies, which God knows and needs.
Speaker 1: I really didn't like that, really didn't like it. Neil
Speaker 1: always had a bad taste in my mouth, always always
Speaker 1: had a weird feeling about Neil. And he's canceled for me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then I had people coming to coming from me
Speaker 1: on Twitter being like, why are we deciding I was
Speaker 1: Neil Patrick Harris the new celebrity. We're all deciding to
Speaker 1: day hate for no reason, and I'm like, honestly, why
Speaker 1: we all? Why not we all decided to hate and
Speaker 1: half away and she's half as annoying as him there
Speaker 1: half has always been half as annoying as about three
Speaker 1: times as telling did. I'm gonna say more than that
Speaker 1: by by fucking orders of magnitude, honey. I just feel
Speaker 1: like it is this thing where we decided, like, let's
Speaker 1: have no Patrick Harress beloved, And like, I guess, yes,
Speaker 1: it must have been hard to be the first like well,
Speaker 1: you know, super openly out you know, male gay celebrity
Speaker 1: in a while, or one that was like a successful
Speaker 1: in the mainstream way. And like I did love him
Speaker 1: for so long, but here's the realty. I would have
Speaker 1: kept loving him if he hadn't shown that his personality
Speaker 1: was so shitty. Also, I don't know, I'm about to
Speaker 1: say something weird. Oh my god, I think yes, I
Speaker 1: think everyone should stay in the closet for as long
Speaker 1: as they need to, for whatever reasons they need to.
Speaker 1: But Neil, I mean Press Hilton, piece of ship, like
Speaker 1: outed him, outed him publicly, and that's sort of like
Speaker 1: through Neil Patrick Harress's life into Ti molten he had
Speaker 1: to deal with that sucks. No one should go through that.
Speaker 1: But I can imagine a world where he just would
Speaker 1: have stayed in the class the whole time and like
Speaker 1: not been like Halloween gay dad, like parading his kids
Speaker 1: around in like like little Baker costumes. Like that's I
Speaker 1: can imagine. But that's not fair for me to say
Speaker 1: it would have come out at some point and been
Speaker 1: the Halloween gay bag. Sure, but I'm saying, let's not like,
Speaker 1: but okay, no, this is the thing. This is why
Speaker 1: you're bringing up because when you're like because when you
Speaker 1: say things like he was one of the few gay
Speaker 1: men at the time out there, like is that that's
Speaker 1: not that's that that wasn't on his right, It wasn't.
Speaker 1: He wasn't brave and doing you know, but he didn't
Speaker 1: meet that head on dead. He did that situation itself.
Speaker 1: He did meet head on and like that is honorable.
Speaker 1: But like to say, like, well he was a pioneer,
Speaker 1: it's like yeah, but he like if he had his way,
Speaker 1: he would not have been visible. Yeah, it's a Roseanne
Speaker 1: getting canceled where it's like, had literally not everyone quit,
Speaker 1: maybe the show wouldn't have been canceled. There you go.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm literally just going off like his
Speaker 1: behavior in the last years. I'm like, god, you are
Speaker 1: you love yourself? Like and yeah, go ahead and love yourself.
Speaker 1: Everyone go love yourself. But like he's arrogant to me,
Speaker 1: like to sit there and feel like you could say
Speaker 1: that about like on Twitter. And also you have met
Speaker 1: her and you worked with her husband for years anyone
Speaker 1: who I don't think that people have I don't think
Speaker 1: somebody before people being like we've met. I mean, Rachel
Speaker 1: did that in a way that was like, actually, no,
Speaker 1: funk you, this is fucked up. Um. Also, it's a
Speaker 1: different situation when you're tweeting it to your millions of followers.
Speaker 1: You have to be able, you have to respond to that.
Speaker 1: And also, Rachel Bloom is a celebrity. Yes, she is
Speaker 1: the star and writer and EP of a critically acclaimed
Speaker 1: show that the fourth season. Um Golden Globe Winner, Golden
Speaker 1: Globe winner. Well, I loved Ira, Let's just become wonderful.
Speaker 1: Let's recap the up. Um. Well, I mean like Ira
Speaker 1: is just one of those people you know who just
Speaker 1: has such a fun like trove of cultural knowledge or
Speaker 1: can just like you can whip it out, can can
Speaker 1: can measure it. We have to get her back when
Speaker 1: she is in l A, when in New York, when
Speaker 1: she's in New York, will get her back, um, you know,
Speaker 1: and now with the new gig, with a new gig,
Speaker 1: also keep it like what like what an elevated discussion
Speaker 1: like we we we keep you over here and we're
Speaker 1: just like a little little little little dummy. No, honey,
Speaker 1: I pass. I could pass. I can marchin to keep it.
Speaker 1: I could stay Kara Brown right in her eyes and
Speaker 1: I could intellectually match her. I could look at Louis
Speaker 1: Fortell in his face and he would turn to sand
Speaker 1: I could look. I could walk into the Crooked Media
Speaker 1: offices and Sarah John love it and the eye and say,
Speaker 1: bitch ay love it or leave it? Love it or
Speaker 1: leave it? I say leave it. The subways over there,
Speaker 1: I say leave it, keep it. I don't think so, honey.
Speaker 1: All gays are just using different words to say the
Speaker 1: same thing, which is we don't like things, which is
Speaker 1: we don't like things, but um, but now we love
Speaker 1: we love everyone over and keep it. I feel so
Speaker 1: close to them, so close to them, just kidding, um,
Speaker 1: I have to make care of Kara. I love Kara,
Speaker 1: has a great podcast voice, gorgeous, gorgeous, tambergeous. And they
Speaker 1: took some fierce pictures at Boroto. Did you get to
Speaker 1: ask about I did mention to us before we had
Speaker 1: record that? Um? They that the Southern humanity did wonders
Speaker 1: for his skin. I love that, which I don't think
Speaker 1: applies to me when I'm down there. Um, but I
Speaker 1: love that for him, you know what I'm saying. And
Speaker 1: they they did. We They turned out some some looks
Speaker 1: for those pictures featuring Joe Kim Booster, who I said,
Speaker 1: is giving you arms and also is giving you a
Speaker 1: face that he was trying to pass. He was pay
Speaker 1: he was passing. He was passing as what as a
Speaker 1: straight young man? Joel Kim Booster Joe kim Booster not clear.
Speaker 1: Chilkim Booster says, I come up into any straight amount
Speaker 1: and passed like any other white straight man in there.
Speaker 1: They sent me down. I could look, um, I almost
Speaker 1: said Jonathan Graf as an example straightment Yeah, Jonathan Graf,
Speaker 1: perennial straight. I can look Dermot mulroney in the face.
Speaker 1: And he turned to Sad Honey I'm tried, like any Dermott, Moroney,
Speaker 1: Dylan McDermott, these are white actors in this town. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: so Joel can pass UM well anyway, we're sure there's
Speaker 1: a lot of there's plenty of overlap. You just slurped
Speaker 1: into that, Mike, I'm I'm dealing with post nasal drop.
Speaker 1: That's it's bad, UM. But we're sure there's plenty of
Speaker 1: overlap between our audiences and keep Its audiences we were.
Speaker 1: I would like to UM storm the keep It offices.
Speaker 1: I will stomp the runway I keep it UM if
Speaker 1: they still have us UM anyway, if they want their
Speaker 1: discussion like knocked down eight or nine UM intelligence levels
Speaker 1: or intelligence. I shouldn't say that. I shouldn't keep you
Speaker 1: back because you could go in there and I feel that, literally,
Speaker 1: I feel that we were a pop rocket yesterday. I
Speaker 1: was like, I do not have anything valuable to say
Speaker 1: and mean while you were getting in there with some
Speaker 1: opinions and some well thought opinions. Were you surprised that
Speaker 1: I was able to I'm not. I'm never surprised. I'm
Speaker 1: listeners if you're if you're still listening at this point,
Speaker 1: post I relieving, UM, I always say this to him
Speaker 1: and he never chooses to accept it. Matt as one
Speaker 1: of the smartest people I know. That's very he um
Speaker 1: And No, it never surprised me that you have the
Speaker 1: intelligence I don't have. Um, I don't have the critical brain,
Speaker 1: Like you're able to watch something and be like, um, Okay,
Speaker 1: here's what I'm noticing. This is this is something that
Speaker 1: is that should be discussed. I'm always like, yeah, um m. J.
Speaker 1: Rodriguez was really good. Like I'm just like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I feel that A C master you. Um. So I
Speaker 1: don't have the critical brain. I have the analytical brain.
Speaker 1: But no, I think the same thing. No, I mean
Speaker 1: I have the computational brain. Can I tell you what
Speaker 1: I think? Yes? I think when it comes to intelligence,
Speaker 1: you're either an S A T bitch or an A
Speaker 1: C T bitch, which is which is yes, I'm sure
Speaker 1: you did your bitch, which is the capacity to learn
Speaker 1: and the access to your knowledge already. Okay, so you're
Speaker 1: an ACT bitch. I am an A C T bitch,
Speaker 1: but they is a ceiling Well, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: did better on the A C T than I did
Speaker 1: the SA. Should we bravely share our scores. Okay, would
Speaker 1: you get in the A C T thirty one? Okay?
Speaker 1: And then what do you sh That's great? Those are
Speaker 1: good scores. I did better when they added in the
Speaker 1: riding great. Um. I had to take the set twice. Um,
Speaker 1: but combined my best scores from all three I got perfect.
Speaker 1: And then and then for my A C T I
Speaker 1: got a thirty four. Fuck you, Oh my god, how
Speaker 1: could you ever say I'm smart? Because you sit here
Speaker 1: on the pedestal, You sit here, and you have A
Speaker 1: C T and S A T learned experience, you were
Speaker 1: able to slay them both. Um. I oh no, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I have to correct myself. I got a thirty five.
Speaker 1: And my god, people stupid, the people, the students, the
Speaker 1: people out of school, who got a thirty six perfect
Speaker 1: thirty six? Um, we're able to get inner at the
Speaker 1: governor's house. And I was so mad that I wouldn't
Speaker 1: the Governor's house for dinner for dinner, And I was
Speaker 1: so mad that I didn't get I was one point
Speaker 1: away from going to the Governor's house. Do you know who?
Speaker 1: I have the same exact essay T score as Sudie
Speaker 1: Green really sued the same exact God, which I think
Speaker 1: she might have had a bad day because I think
Speaker 1: she's incredibly she's she's smarter than both of us. She
Speaker 1: could defeat us in the in the in the contest
Speaker 1: of wits and the contest of wits and the challenge
Speaker 1: of wits. She would rise. She would as the victor.
Speaker 1: She would stand up of our bodies as the smartest
Speaker 1: of the three. This is I guess like something is
Speaker 1: like wucked up, Elicita Edwards, like if she melted into
Speaker 1: group impression. Yeah, um, excuse me, Brett, can you come
Speaker 1: over here? No, Brett, do you want to talk to
Speaker 1: Come on here. This is a glimpse inside forever l A. Now,
Speaker 1: this is beautiful. This is Brett who, Brett Baum who
Speaker 1: is the one of the producers forever to We just
Speaker 1: want to say that quick hello, thanks guys. And how
Speaker 1: does it feel to see the rise of culture this?
Speaker 1: But I mean it is it is truly a sight
Speaker 1: to behold. Um, it has been amazing. We just, honestly,
Speaker 1: the three of us, Joe, Ax and I just bask
Speaker 1: in your resplendent glory. Oh my god, it is the
Speaker 1: one of the great honors of our lives. Too. Much.
Speaker 1: This is this is this is overcorrecting for something I think.
Speaker 1: Tell us, tell us about your beautiful bride to be Amy. Um, yeah,
Speaker 1: so Amy and I we got engaged when we were
Speaker 1: on vacation in Italy on the a oh my a
Speaker 1: Mufi coast farther south. Yeah, right, it was. It was wonderful.
Speaker 1: It was. It was a very nice um location, but
Speaker 1: it was also very private kind of engagement. We found
Speaker 1: a nice little moment to ourselves. Um. And we were
Speaker 1: there in the off season, which I kind of like better.
Speaker 1: There wasn't a lot going on. It was a little colder,
Speaker 1: but there's you know, the place to yourself a little
Speaker 1: bit more. And um, it was, it was wonderful. I'm
Speaker 1: going to get engaged under underneath the incredible help coaster
Speaker 1: and I'm the adventure. That's beautiful and I'm trying going
Speaker 1: to get down on one knee and there'll be no
Speaker 1: one there. I'll just hold up a ring and like
Speaker 1: there'll be no one there will just be me under
Speaker 1: the coaster. I'll be like that. But that's great that
Speaker 1: you did it in a graduate that Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful, Bratt. We're so excited we're so excited. And look,
Speaker 1: what I want to say is, um, I'll come to
Speaker 1: the wedding. Okay, Um, I will not invite myself, No,
Speaker 1: I will say, but um, I mean we are looking
Speaker 1: for an efficient Still wait, okay, how hard is it
Speaker 1: to create some sort of informal competition here? But because
Speaker 1: I don't think I don't think you have the desire
Speaker 1: to get on there and want to become an efficient.
Speaker 1: I fucking love weddings. Now that you don't have a
Speaker 1: day job, you have the time to get on Absolutely.
Speaker 1: I weddings are like where I thrive. I know it's
Speaker 1: very cliche for gay people to be like, I'm great
Speaker 1: at weddings, but it's will you always turn to look.
Speaker 1: It's not even about the look. It's like my sister's
Speaker 1: wedding was one of the wedding. My sister's wedding was
Speaker 1: a moment for me that I was like that. I
Speaker 1: thought to myself, Oh wow, I'm I'm I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm worth it. I like, oh my god, Like this
Speaker 1: sounds so dumb, but like my brother in law's side
Speaker 1: of the family, like I gave a toast at the
Speaker 1: rehearsal dinner and like worked in some jokes. Of course,
Speaker 1: as you do. They expected that from you, so well,
Speaker 1: they didn't. They didn't know who it was they rehearsal.
Speaker 1: The rehearsal dinner was at this fancy Chinese restaurant. They
Speaker 1: didn't know you were one of commons. Up next, shut up.
Speaker 1: The rehearsal dinner was at this fancy Chinese restaurant in Cleveland,
Speaker 1: and literally all these sucking Jewish people thought I was
Speaker 1: the goddamn help because I was certain I was like
Speaker 1: helping open bottles of beer. And they were like, this
Speaker 1: one fucking idiot. His name is uncle Harvey. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: yls us Um Yang, let me text me when you
Speaker 1: hear this, because because Yang is Yang is texting me
Speaker 1: like and anytime she finishes an episode, it's truly like
Speaker 1: a beautiful moment in our sibling ship. So she so um.
Speaker 1: So this guy comes up and he's like, um, hey,
Speaker 1: by the way, you guys shouldn't keep these beers at
Speaker 1: room temperature. You should put these on ice because it's beer.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, yeah, I'll do that next time.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you didn't look him in the eyes,
Speaker 1: and like I wanted, I don't work here, you fucking
Speaker 1: because because I knew I was gonna go up later
Speaker 1: and I was like, he's going to feel like a
Speaker 1: fucking idiot and about him later. No, because no, he
Speaker 1: came up to me after my toast and he was
Speaker 1: and he was like that was one. Like he didn't
Speaker 1: even apologize, he was just like, that was a really
Speaker 1: great toast. And I was like, um, oh my god,
Speaker 1: mess Oh no, no, no, no, it's fine. Um that
Speaker 1: might have been such not my style. But the wedding,
Speaker 1: that wedding was a moment. I'm sorry, Bratt, We're just
Speaker 1: not taking up all this time. But that wedding was
Speaker 1: a moment where I was like, oh, yeah, okay, these strangers,
Speaker 1: this general audience is into this. Great I can I
Speaker 1: can pursue this still. It was It was an affirming moment.
Speaker 1: But Brett, this is just to say, I think it
Speaker 1: would be a fun forever dog challenge to see who
Speaker 1: who between the two of us might get. We don't
Speaker 1: have to necessarily be the winners and be efficient the
Speaker 1: actual efficiant, like make that decision between you and Amy,
Speaker 1: but whoever gets further along in the selection problem. I mean,
Speaker 1: she is a big fan of the podcast. It is
Speaker 1: a it is a something that we share. So I mean,
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that she would be opposed to this.
Speaker 1: I mean I could see a sort of war. Here's
Speaker 1: what we could do. One of us could be the
Speaker 1: competition and one of us could perform at the reception.
Speaker 1: You would rather perform and instead officiate. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: a several songs that I could really do, really very well. Um.
Speaker 1: I could give you everything you wanted a wedding like
Speaker 1: you know your sign still delivered. I could give you
Speaker 1: um a slow song like All by Myself from slandy
Speaker 1: On and I can't hit the notes um in the
Speaker 1: original key, So just think about that. I actually really
Speaker 1: like that because I really like like the engagement, like
Speaker 1: having sort of private moments in a public space. So
Speaker 1: if you could sort of take maybe the attention away
Speaker 1: from us, we can kind of enjoy it all. You
Speaker 1: know what song I like to open up every wedding
Speaker 1: I do with Ghostbusters. Yeah. It gets people up and
Speaker 1: dancing and then like a yeah, gets people shaking their ass.
Speaker 1: I love to shake my ass to to the Ghostbusters theme.
Speaker 1: Actually Real culture number seventeen, I like to shake my
Speaker 1: ass to the Ghostbusters theme. Okay, we're said, sorry, we're
Speaker 1: taking up all this time. Thank you for joining us,
Speaker 1: Brett that we've never done this. Thank you well of course.
Speaker 1: Um and for all for people who listen to the
Speaker 1: whole Forever Dog catalog. You you are very familiar with
Speaker 1: Bratt Bret's work, just producing all the l A stuff.
Speaker 1: But this is a moment where the Lost cultures, its
Speaker 1: fans who maybe aren't familiar get to you can get
Speaker 1: they can get to know hp B, HPP worlds have colloided.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it, hp B, don't be scared of it.
Speaker 1: Everyone has it. Everyone has it. Thanks, It's okay. I
Speaker 1: think I think this is what a historic episode. This
Speaker 1: is a historic episode. The forum has been broken. Bit Um,
Speaker 1: we're excited. We we're feeling feeling a little giddy because
Speaker 1: tonight we're going to go do um. I don't think
Speaker 1: Sonny Live l A and then it'll already have happened.
Speaker 1: Um when you guys listen to this. But the anticipation
Speaker 1: is thick, thick in the air. And um, we hope
Speaker 1: you enjoyed it. It will be coming out very soon
Speaker 1: on the pod and then the release schedule and Iram
Speaker 1: Madison the Third will be there rocking the jacket. Look,
Speaker 1: we just saw which was fierce, and we'll take our
Speaker 1: photo much later. But um anyway, uh, we'll see you
Speaker 1: next time. What lost culture? Wait, hold on, we're not
Speaker 1: signing off this, but you gotta sing. We have to sing. Okay, Um,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? No? Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I know what we have. Okay. Did you watch the
Speaker 1: Tony's Did you watch the performance of the band's visit?
Speaker 1: You don't know that song? I'm ms shty no, never mind?
Speaker 1: What shall we say? Um? Hi, I'm in the deep
Speaker 1: band watch us, I dive, I never leave ground. We're
Speaker 1: far from the shallow. Now star is born coming soon.
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