1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by DraftKings. We are several 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: days into training camp. We are beyond the open stadium 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 1: practice at MT Bank Stadium, and we wanted to give 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,440 Speaker 1: you some of our observations for the first few days 5 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: here of training camp because right we're watching it all right, 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: and I know you all want to know what's going 7 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: on down on the field. So Garrett and I figured, hey, 8 00:00:22,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: let's put together some bullet points here and chat through 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 1: what's going on. So this is something we want to 10 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: do throughout camp. You know, I think a lot of times, uh, 11 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,239 Speaker 1: you know, listeners will ask us. It's kind of the 12 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: it's the classic, you know, if you talk to run 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: into a fan, or you run to somebody at the 14 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: grocery store, who's looking good? Right, everyone wants to know 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: who's looking good at training camp. And that's what we're 16 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: going to try to kind of reveal over the course time. 17 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:47,880 Speaker 1: Like you grocery store shot by the way, Oh I 18 00:00:47,880 --> 00:00:50,880 Speaker 1: I definitely you'll you'll see me out there, nah see. Um, 19 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: you know, I got dinner at the facility here during 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: training camp. When you're working late and you get dinner 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 1: at the facility, grocery shopping. Yeah, you grocery up down 22 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: there in the cafeteria. Well, I just see enough for me. 23 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: You know, kids, you can aforge for yourself. That's full. 24 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: Yeah anyway, Um yeah, So Garrett, what's kind of been 25 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: the biggest thing that has stood out to you. I'll 26 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: tell you. The thing that I think is most impressive 27 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: is I am really caught. I am struck by how 28 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: good the passing game looks at this point. I think 29 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: that Lamar Jackson has continued to play the way he 30 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: did at the end of Mini camp, where he just 31 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 1: looks really sharp, and that has just continued into training camp. Like, 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: and it's not just Lamarl though. That's why I said, 33 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 1: the entire passing game. And there was like all the 34 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: talk about the receivers, and we spent plenty of time 35 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,440 Speaker 1: talking about that, but the passing game as a whole 36 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,639 Speaker 1: I think looks better than I expected early on. Lamar 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: hasn't thrown a pick yet. Um Russia Bateman I think 38 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: has had a really strong start to camp. Isaiah likely 39 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: it's had a really strong start to camp. Of course, 40 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews looks like his regular old self, who's going 41 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: to be a monster dune now. He suffered, you know, 42 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of an injury in Saturday's practice, but 43 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: he's look he's looked, he's looked very good. I think 44 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: James Perchet, Tyler Wallas, like all those guys have looked 45 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: to me better than they did during ot as in minicamp, 46 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 1: you know, like and and not that they were struggling 47 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 1: then or whatever, but like I'm not seeing you know, 48 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: they had some drops in O t as in minicamp. 49 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: I have not seen that during training camp. It seems 50 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: like they've really kind of maybe focused on that during 51 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: time off. They've they're doing a better job catching the 52 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: ball and some tough catches. Tylan Wallace has made some 53 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: very tough extended grabs. Rasha Bateman the same um And 54 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: so I think, you know, for the wide receivers, the 55 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: big question is, alright, or the Ravens gonna have to 56 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 1: sign somebody, you know, in the early parts of training camp. 57 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: Ifam Eric to Coasta and I'm looking at this and 58 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: and he might very well still pull the trigger if 59 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: a move makes sense. I'm not send you here rulling 60 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: it out, but I'm just saying, if I'm watching practice 61 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: and I'm the GM, I'm saying looking pretty good, like 62 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: they're making a case for themselves here to be the guys. 63 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 1: And I think that they have made that argument. That 64 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that's the final one. They don't make the 65 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: decision of whether a wide receiver as signed or not, 66 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 1: but like, I think they've held up their end of 67 00:03:12,760 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: the bargain that I agree, and I you know, listeners 68 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: have heard me say many times that I would expect 69 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: the Ravens to sign or add a receiver to this 70 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: team at some point before the start of the season. 71 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,839 Speaker 1: But I honestly feel like I'm starting to feel less 72 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 1: confident in that if it be based on the way 73 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: that these guys have been playing and how good the 74 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: passing game has looked. I just think that like there's 75 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: it's just been really solid. It's been it's been now. 76 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: I think the area that I have continue to stress 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: on is the fact that there's not much depth. There's 78 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: very little depth, particularly a wide receiver. Well, you've already 79 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: seen a hit at tight end with Charlie Cohler going, 80 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: you know, being sidelined because of the sports herning and 81 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: he's gonna be out awhile, So your depth there is 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: is very limited. So that's where you know, if Devin Duvernes, 83 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: you know, the Brews, which I don't expect to be 84 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: a serious thing, but if that were to sideline him 85 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 1: for any significant period of time, if that, let's just 86 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: say that it had been worse or whatever than like 87 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: they be in a pickle. Yeah, and uh, I think 88 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 1: the question there and that was I was just gonna 89 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: bring that same point up. The question also is like 90 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: some of these these guys that are competing for a 91 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 1: fifth wide receiver spot have looked pretty good too, Like 92 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: Shamar Bridges has looked good. You know, Um, jaylen Moore 93 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: has had a good had a really big catch on 94 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: Saturday at the stadium. I think that he's somebody that's 95 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: in that in that mix. Yep, Jale Moore is definitely 96 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:42,000 Speaker 1: in in that mix. Uh. The Alabama kid is in 97 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: that mix, I think too. Um. So you're also saying, 98 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: you know, well, if if you sign somebody, they're going 99 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: to take that spot, right, So how much better is 100 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 1: that person than these unproven, you know, undrafted rookies or 101 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 1: or you know not in the case of janeln Moore, 102 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: he's not an undrafted rookie anymore. But you know that's 103 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: part of the equation too. Like those guys who would 104 00:05:02,720 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: feel that that depth kind of spot as a fifth 105 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: wide receiver and play special teams. Um, they looked pretty good, 106 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: you know. So now you know I'm not sitting here 107 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,599 Speaker 1: is putting all my eggs in an undrafted rookie basket 108 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: right now. You know, a few days into training camp, Um, 109 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: a veteran, he's done it and whatever. You know, you 110 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: can feel more confident, I think, rest assured. But like 111 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: that's something to factor in certainly, is to keep in 112 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: mind how those players are playing. Yeah, And I just 113 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: think the biggest obvious factor here in the development of 114 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: passing game is the quarterback. And that's kind of an 115 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: obvious statement, but like Lamar looks really good. He looks 116 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: really good. He balked up this offseason and he thinks 117 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: and I think his receivers and pass catchers think that 118 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,480 Speaker 1: that has made an impact on the way he's throwing 119 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: the football. He's added elements of that back shoulder throw 120 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: to his game, which he said was a big point 121 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 1: of emphasis this offseason. And if they can kind of 122 00:05:57,400 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: hit that with some consistency, then I think that's going 123 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: to open up things even more over the middle of 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: the field, some of the deep stuff they want to 125 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:06,640 Speaker 1: do that I just kind of adds another layer to 126 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 1: this offense. So well, and that was that was Lamar 127 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 1: had a ton of success in really dissecting the middle 128 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: of the field, right, tight ends. He loves throwing the 129 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: tight ends, uh, crossers. All that stuff over in the 130 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: middle field was really where he just not not just 131 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: fasted in during the m v P year. Uh and 132 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: and so kind of the next step in his progression 133 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: as a pastor. And whenever I talk about Lamar Jackson 134 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: as a pastor, I just want everybodybody to know he's 135 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: he's a great passer, right, but he can improve. Right, 136 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: this is the evolution of Lamar Jackson. We all knew 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: what was gonna be, right, and so like the next 138 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: step for him was to hit those outside the numbers 139 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: throws more consistently, right, And we're seeing that, right And 140 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: and he even said that, like you said, that's a 141 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: focus of his That was a focus of his this offseason, 142 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: just throwing you know, a tighter spiral, more velocity, get 143 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: that ball outside numbers, put it in the spot consistent 144 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: and we are seeing the fruits of that labor. Yeah, 145 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: Like everything that I've seen from Lamar so far over 146 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: the course of this training camp is that this is 147 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna be a monster year for him. I really feel 148 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: that way. I really, I really believe that. And you know, 149 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: it's not just like we're drinking the purple cool A 150 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: here and saying that everything's great. I just think that, 151 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: based on everything that I've seen, based on what I've 152 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: heard from his teammates, He's going to have a really, 153 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 1: really big year. So the other thing, too, is is 154 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: this isn't based on what's happening on the field, but 155 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: the contract situation. I was just gonna say, yeah, so 156 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: if he's gonna have that big year, you definitely want 157 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: to get right now, right, think that's right, Let's get 158 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: that puppy signed, sealed and delivered. I've been impressed, I'll 159 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: tell you, I've been really impressed with the way that 160 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: he's approached it. Um, he is not allowed it to 161 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: become a distraction. I thought ras Bateman said it well 162 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: last week. He said, if Lamar is not worried about 163 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: the contract, we're not worried about the contract. He showed 164 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: up here, no hold out, no hold in, none of 165 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: that stuff. He's here, he's participating and the conversations are ongoing. Yeah, 166 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: I think that it's really impressive. I mean, we did 167 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: see some holdouts from other players around the league who 168 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: were in this similar situation. UM, Lamar has not done that. 169 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: That speaks to him. I think in large part, it 170 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 1: really speaks to the trust in the relationship that the 171 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: Ravens and Lamar Jackson have. Right, Lamar was clear, Well, 172 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: let me just pause and say, from what we heard 173 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: from Lamar, it certainly sounds like things are progressing right. 174 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: It sounds like a contract could be reached at any time. 175 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: I keep checking my phone constantly while we're recording. I'm 176 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: checking my phone to see if we get the alert right, 177 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 1: like it could happen at any time. And that's the 178 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: feeling that I got hearing from Lamar and the press conference. Um. 179 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: But to what I was saying earlier, I think it 180 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 1: really speaks to that relationship and that trust in that 181 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,079 Speaker 1: Lamar does doesn't want his business out there. He never 182 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: wanted any of this to be public. That's just who 183 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: he is. That's how he wanted it, right and the Ravens. 184 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: Nobody's leaked anything. There's been nothing. What he knows anything. 185 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: We hear from Jetz's reback. You know, he's like, this 186 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:06,679 Speaker 1: is his job. He has to find this stuff out 187 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: and he can't find anything. And that really speaks to 188 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: um just most sides playing this straight up, you know, 189 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: and and and respecting each other and their desires. And 190 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 1: I think that that will pay off, you know, in 191 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 1: in just how an agreement has reached and and this 192 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: whole thing, like it's a it's a difficult situation when 193 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 1: a player represents himself. That's that's not that's not easy, right, 194 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: And it's just been expertly navigated the whole way through, 195 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: and that's a testament to both sides. I totally agree. 196 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 1: And I also agree with your point that like it 197 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,920 Speaker 1: just seems like the head winds are moving in the 198 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:43,959 Speaker 1: direction of getting a deal done before the season. In 199 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,679 Speaker 1: my mind, you know, Lamar said that he expects to 200 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: reach a long term contract. There will be a cut 201 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: off point. You know, he didn't he didn't give the 202 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: exact day, but you know that's naturally you don't want 203 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: to be kind of in the middle of the season, 204 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: and I mean kind of the presumed thing was that 205 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: this isn't going to go into the regular season, right 206 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: was kind of the presumed cut off point that he 207 00:10:02,520 --> 00:10:04,719 Speaker 1: was referring to. Yeah, I took it that way as well. 208 00:10:05,320 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: And I think that a deal will get done. And 209 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: you know, John Harwall talk last week about how he 210 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: feels like both sides are obviously, you know, very motivated, 211 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: mutually motivated to get a deal done, and I think 212 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: it will happen. And um, I just as again a 213 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: lot of players, I think that whole thing would be 214 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: a distraction, especially when you add in the element of 215 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: representing yourself. You know, you go out to practice, so 216 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: then okay, well I got a little time here, let 217 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: me swing up to the GM's office and maybe hammer 218 00:10:33,559 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: out some finer points of this contract. Like that is 219 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 1: a very unique situation and contract negotiation, and by all indications, 220 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 1: Lamar has not allowed that to be a distraction to him, 221 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,679 Speaker 1: and his teammates don't feel like it's distraction either. I 222 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: also think that it's um, you know, we don't we 223 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: ain't know no details on this. I just think that 224 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: it's also requires Lamar had to trust the Ravens, and 225 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: and we don't know who's working on with mar if anybody, right, 226 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: Like if he's running these contracts by who knows who 227 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: the lawyer or whatever, financial advisor whatever, We don't know, right, 228 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:10,920 Speaker 1: But like there's also a trust on Lamar's part that 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens aren't going to try to pull something over 230 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: on them, right, like like that, like they're not working 231 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: with an agent, they're working with a player. Like he 232 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: has to trust them that. Like we all are working 233 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: towards the same goal of looking out for each other 234 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 1: and what works for both sides, you know what I mean. Like, 235 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: and the Ravens have to trust Lamar that, Like he's 236 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: also bargaining in good faith with them, you know what 237 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, it's just it's just really impressive. I 238 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 1: continue to be impressed by the whole by how it 239 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: all goes down. Look, if there wasn't trust, there wouldn't 240 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 1: be negotiations. Yeah, it's true, there just wouldn't be. And 241 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: Lamar is somebody who, as we've talked about before, keeps 242 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 1: a small circle. Trust is important and privacy is important, 243 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: and those things have been able to be navigated really well. 244 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: So we saw that in the Marquis Brown trade to 245 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: how that that stayed quiet for a long time. Both 246 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: both sides had to trust each other on that totally. 247 00:12:00,840 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 1: So all right, let's get back to the field in 248 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: terms of some things that kind of stand out. Um 249 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 1: one other player. I mentioned him briefly in the passing game, 250 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: but I think that he bears a little bit more conversation. 251 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: Is Isaiah Likely the rookie tight end. And I'm always 252 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: a little hesitant, you know, to to blow a guy 253 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: up a little too much early in camp and the 254 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 1: pads haven't come on yet and all that stuff, But man, 255 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: he just continues to show up and make plays, and 256 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 1: it sure seems like he's going to be a really 257 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: impactful piece of this passing game. And when you listen 258 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: to his teammates like Mark Andrew says, oh, he's got 259 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: shades of me and him and Lamar Jackson says he's 260 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: a baby Mark, Like, okay, so they're seeing the same thing. 261 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: They feel like this guy is gonna be really they're 262 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: stepping on the gas. They're not exactly. It's always funny 263 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: when they say stuff like that, and it's like, well, 264 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: I want to blow um up too much. You just 265 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: call him baby Mark. But yeah, I mean it looks 266 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: really good, you know, and I've I've might have to 267 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: eat my words, you know, I said, I think it's 268 00:12:57,679 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: gonna be tough for these rookie tight ends to have 269 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,079 Speaker 1: that big of are all in the offense the way 270 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 1: it's going. You know, I'm not saying that. You know, 271 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: Isaiah likely is gonna sit here and catch seventy balls, 272 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: but like I think he's going to be a factor 273 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,559 Speaker 1: for sure. And this offense is the way it looks, 274 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,079 Speaker 1: um And, And that also plays into this whole wide 275 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: receiver conversation that we're having in the depth of wide receiver. 276 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: And you know, if the Ravens have not invested this 277 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: offseason in in revest in a wide receiver in terms 278 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: of free agency or the draft, but they did get 279 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 1: this guy that kind of has shades of wide receiver 280 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: in them, um And, I think that they can deploy 281 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: him in multiple ways. So it is going to be 282 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: very interesting to see how big of a niche uh 283 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: he will have in the beginning of the season. And now, 284 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 1: you know what it reminds me of a lot is 285 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:46,920 Speaker 1: previous years where the Ravens drafted two tight ends and 286 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 1: one of them gets hurt in training camp or whatnot, 287 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: and the other one just gets more of an opportunity 288 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 1: and grabs the bull by the Horns. That's what's reminded me. 289 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 1: You know, it's Hayden Hurst, Mark Andrews back from you know, 290 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we saw it with Ed Dixon 291 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: and Dennis pitt Up early in their careers. Um, sometimes 292 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: it's not the worst thing to be the second tight 293 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:08,079 Speaker 1: end drafted by the Baltimore Ravens. So I just actually 294 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: pulled up Hayden her stats as we were talking here, 295 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: and when you're trying to kind of guess as to 296 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,680 Speaker 1: what sort of impact will happen, he missed the first 297 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 1: I think four games. So Hayden missed the first four games. 298 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean, in Hayden hers first season, he just kind 299 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: of missed the opportunity. And by the time he got 300 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: back on the field, Mark Andrews had established himself and 301 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: that that kind of was honestly the case for the 302 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: rest of his career. Mark just began to the tight 303 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: end um. But so Hayden's rookie year, he only had 304 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: thirteen catches a hundred and sixty three yards. His second year, 305 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: and this is what I'm curious to get your take on. 306 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: His second year, he had thirty catches three hundred and 307 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: forty nine yards, two touchdowns, Like, do you think that 308 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: is a that big, that big touchdown against the Bills 309 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: that second year? Yeah, grant on that one, But do 310 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: you think like that is what you would expect out 311 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: of Isaiah likely this year? Like Hayden her second year, 312 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: the second year thirty for three fift and two touchdowns. 313 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: That sounds about right. And I really think that like 314 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: when the offense when they had both those tight ends hidden, 315 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: didn't make a ton of catches, but like he made 316 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 1: some really critical catches that Bills catch, and then there 317 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: were some big plays that he made on third downs 318 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: and things like that. I just think that having that 319 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: weapon was really valuable to Lamar that season, and I 320 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: think it could be the same thing this year when 321 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: if Isaiah likely continues to progress the way that he 322 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: has at least an early in camp. Yeah. I mean, 323 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 1: the duke can bend really soft hands. That's the thing 324 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: that stands out to me the most about him is 325 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,160 Speaker 1: he looks extremely natural catching the football. It looks very 326 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: easy to him, Like he doesn't fight it at all. 327 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: He just can bend and pluck out. It doesn't have 328 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: to be right the numbers. You know, he can get it. 329 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: Outside of his body, so, um yeah, impressive guy. All right, 330 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: So let's go to the offensive line, because there's been 331 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 1: lots of focus obviously on the line this offseason. We're 332 00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: getting some clarity. It's not by any means settled, but 333 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: the left guard sits. You wation that competition there. Ben 334 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: Powers is leading the way there and it's been Ben 335 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,920 Speaker 1: Powers and Tyree Phillips taking reps of the first team. 336 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland missed the first four days of practice because 337 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: he didn't pass this conditioning test. Um so he wasn't 338 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: able to get on the field. Finally did pass it 339 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: and get back on the field. But um that it 340 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 1: seems like Ben Powers has is in the driver's seat 341 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: at least, but I don't think he's fully buckled in. 342 00:16:26,720 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: And the cars, yeah, the passengers right sitting right there. 343 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: It's like the one hand on the wheel kind of 344 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: just in case he starts serving a little bit. Tyree 345 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 1: Phillips is sitting right next to little Yeah. Um so 346 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: Ben Cleveland's in the back seat for now. He's got 347 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: to climb up to the passage of front right now. 348 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you missed the start of 349 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: camp and those other guys, you're in the back seat. Yeah, 350 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: they have the opportunity. So yeah, I mean, you know what, 351 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:53,720 Speaker 1: you haven't been Powers, right, I mean he of of 352 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 1: everybody in this competition, everybody has kind of their strong seat. 353 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: Ben Powers is experience. He started I don't know how 354 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: many off the top of my head, a number of games, 355 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean more than a dozen games in the NFL, right, 356 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: And so that has value. And he's just he's just 357 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: a solid, gritty blocker, you know. Um. So I think 358 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: that the Ravens would be totally fine if Ben Powers 359 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: was a week one starter. Uh. I think Tyree Phillips 360 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 1: is an more athletic than Ben Powers is. I think 361 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: maybe he has a bit more upside the men Powers. 362 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,960 Speaker 1: The ceiling is a little bit higher probably, Um, but 363 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't have as much experience. He's had injuries, he's 364 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 1: been out of position over his career. Now, I think 365 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: now he has this chance to really work at left guard. 366 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: And if to me, if Tyree Phillips can really sharpen 367 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 1: himself at left guard US training camp as this opportunity 368 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: that he's long desired to really kind of blossom at 369 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 1: that position, if he takes advantage of that, wouldn't surprise 370 00:17:52,840 --> 00:17:54,880 Speaker 1: me if he were the week one starter either. Yeah. 371 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 1: And I also think that the early part of camp, 372 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: before the pads come on, like yes, so much, you 373 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 1: can say exactly, like it kind of helps set the foundation. 374 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: But by no means is anything to anything decided in 375 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: the trenches, like at all. I just think that this 376 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: week is going to be really kind of enlightening to 377 00:18:15,400 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: see how the that that position looks and well, and 378 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: then training camp or the rest of training camp, of course, 379 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: but in the preseason, like the preseason will help determine 380 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: I think I expect both those guys to play there 381 00:18:27,640 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: in the preseason. Like I don't know, but in Cleveland, 382 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: like let's not roll out rule out bank Cleveland, by 383 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: any stretch of imagination, he might be in the back 384 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,239 Speaker 1: seat for right now. But like there's still a lot 385 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: of camp. You know, he's missed four practices and it's 386 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: not good. It's not the good the right foot to 387 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: get out on, you know, at the start of camp. 388 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: But like we've seen this from players before and they've 389 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: certainly recovered and been fine. I mean, how much were 390 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: people concerned about Lamarvis and Oziers? Seems like it's okay now, 391 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and so Bank Cleveland can certainly be back 392 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: in this competition full tilt and be a contender to 393 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: be the Week one starter. Yeah, I think at other 394 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: just on the offensive line, real quick, we have Morgan 395 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: Moses on last week. If you haven't listened to that, 396 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: go back and check out that one. Just a really 397 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 1: likable guy. He's gonna be great at right tackle. Just 398 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: kind of solidified that spot. And I will be really 399 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,200 Speaker 1: paying close attention to Tyler lender Bomb as the pads 400 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 1: come on. Lender Bomb basically is stepped into the starting 401 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: center job from the day that he arrived here, which 402 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: is what you expect that of a first round pick, 403 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,160 Speaker 1: but also like no small feat to just move into. 404 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's not like Kyle Hamilton's right now you say, 405 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: oh absolutely he's the Week one starter playing a percent 406 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: of the snaps. That's you. But you are saying that 407 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: for Tyler Linderbaum, right, you are exactly, And there's a 408 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 1: lot of responsibility there on that center position. And that's 409 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: no like nothing about Kyle. It's just like that's how 410 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: it kind of works on the offensive line, like your 411 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:48,880 Speaker 1: first round pick, and on the offensive line you don't rotate. Really, yeah, 412 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,880 Speaker 1: you know you play occasionally, you do, but you're playing 413 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 1: of snaps. So who's gonna be the guy? It's gonna 414 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 1: be you? And well, you know Tyler lender baumb the 415 00:19:57,680 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: knock on him is that he's under size, that he's 416 00:19:59,760 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 1: a little a smaller guys got a stands full with 417 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,439 Speaker 1: Michael Pierce. Yeah, So now he's gonna get out there 418 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: and get the pads on, and this will be a chance, 419 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: I think, for him to kind of show to prove 420 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: himself a little bit. You know, there's gonna be a 421 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,360 Speaker 1: lot of pressure on him, a lot of eyeballs on him, 422 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 1: and I'm sure that he's pretty excited about these first 423 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: few days of pads to let some of these NFL 424 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: players know that he's up to the challenge. Yep, yep. 425 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: And I do think that Michael Pierce is a great, 426 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: uh measuring stick for him. I mean, you know, the 427 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: talk was, well, some of these bigger, like really physical 428 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: heavy guys is lending up bom, I'm gonna be able 429 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: to move these guys. Michael Piers a big boy, right 430 00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 1: and very strong dude like Calais Campbell. You know, is 431 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: he gonna have to move clay Us off the line 432 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:42,879 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. That's another large human being. Travis Jones, big man, right, 433 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 1: Like the Ravens have a very big defensive line, so 434 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: that's a great test for talent. And I'm also on 435 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 1: Travis Jones you mentioned him, like I'm I think he's 436 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: had a pretty solid start. He'll be another one that. Yeah, 437 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 1: I want to see how he does as the pads 438 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: come on, because I think that he's gonna be kind 439 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: of a sneaky important player on the team and on 440 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:05,680 Speaker 1: this defense, on that and the defensive line rotation. And 441 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,160 Speaker 1: I've liked what I've seen from him. Michael Pierre, Yeah, 442 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: I agree with that. And I think Michael Pierce, you know, 443 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:15,399 Speaker 1: there was some you know, online chatter about his waistline, 444 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: you know, reporting but passing conditioning test. That's check step one. 445 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: Uh and short does he looks He looks pretty big, 446 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,880 Speaker 1: but hey, let's not forget those tackles are pretty big. 447 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: They're not known for being spelt right. They're not me anyway, 448 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,040 Speaker 1: So like whatever, I'm not worried about Michael Pierce, especially 449 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: after I've seen him practice, you know, I mean, like 450 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: do burst up the middle at the start of eleven 451 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: on elevens on Friday for what would have been a 452 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: sack like look pretty fast, you know. So like oftentimes 453 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: over the history of training camp players have worked themselves 454 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: into shape a little bit. I don't think he's like 455 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: that far off where it's a concern his weight. Isn't 456 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,240 Speaker 1: it concern to me at all? So in terms of 457 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 1: other positions on this defense, what kind of observations have 458 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: you made? I think the secondary is really good. Um 459 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: but we're not even seeing the full secondary yet because 460 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: Marcus Peters is not back on the field. But that 461 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: has up that that's opened the opportunity for Brandon Stevens 462 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 1: to get a ton of work with the first team 463 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: offenses an outside corner and camp. Yeah, so what I 464 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: don't know what what kind of other observations you have 465 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 1: about the defense? Well, I'll say this also really for 466 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: the corners is you do have to wait for the 467 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: pads come on for them too, because you know they're 468 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,440 Speaker 1: not they can't play the ball down the field is 469 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: intensely as they want to write, they're not supposed to 470 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: be making a ton of contact down the field and 471 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 1: wiping these receivers out, you know what I mean. Um So, 472 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: but I think that the cornerbacks have been good. You know. 473 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: I think that Jellen Armor Davis has looked very solid. 474 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: You know. My feelings about Pepe looks great. Um yeah, 475 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: mean at safety, I think that it's been interesting like 476 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,440 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's is he has to earn his first team reps. 477 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, he hasn't had been like consistently the first 478 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:11,360 Speaker 1: team guy all the way through practice, like they've rotated 479 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 1: in players, and what we expected with Chuck Clark, like 480 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: he's got a lot of you know, first team run 481 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: uh and and I think that Marcus Williams also is 482 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: also still adjusting to this defense and getting used to 483 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: the scheme and things like that. Um, but they all 484 00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 1: look good. Like I think the secondary is just top notch. 485 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: That's gonna be the strength of this defense. It was 486 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: interesting to hear Mike McDonald say, well, we're still figuring 487 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: out who our best players are and how we're gonna 488 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 1: cater our defense to that, right, and who's gonna be 489 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: on the field in what situations. I feel pretty confident 490 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: that at the end of the day, my dad was 491 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna say, well, the secondary is the strength of this defense, right, Um, so, yeah, 492 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 1: that looks good. One position I think that really bears 493 00:23:54,600 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: noting outside linebacker ud Alpha o A. I me and 494 00:24:00,359 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: you like what you've seen? Oh, I think I think 495 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: this could be the double digit sack here, fair Die. 496 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,040 Speaker 1: I can see him getting I agree with that, which 497 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,680 Speaker 1: would be huge. I mean that would be that you know, 498 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: you're a Tensac guy. It's pretty darn good. Oh yeah, 499 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: and so I could certainly see that for him. Uh, 500 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see when Tis Bowser gets on 501 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 1: the field, you know, once he's back on there with 502 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 1: o A. Ojabo is still unsigned. Uh and still not 503 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: healthy and still not healthy. So that's the TVD. But 504 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: you know, justin Houston looks good in joining camp early 505 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: parts as we expected. I expect him to, as you've 506 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,119 Speaker 1: talked about in Final Drive, have a bigger year than 507 00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,120 Speaker 1: he did last year. Dalen Hayes, you know I would 508 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: say that I haven't. He hasn't popped off my radar 509 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: as much as he was in minicamp um, but still 510 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:51,120 Speaker 1: got my eyes on him. Um, so I'm not. I'm 511 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:55,120 Speaker 1: not I think as worried about the Ravens pass rush 512 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,240 Speaker 1: as some people are. Well, yeah, all of a sudden 513 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: if you get just's just call it ten sacks from 514 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: and then I've already said that I think Justin Houston 515 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: is going to see an increase. So let's just say 516 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: he goes up to seven. You know that would be significant. 517 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,960 Speaker 1: Um and then all of a sudden, you feel like 518 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: the pass rushes in a much better shot. And then 519 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: of course then you're gonna get some blitzes and things 520 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: like that, and maybe clay As Campbell sees a slight uptick. 521 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: He has not put up the kind of sack never 522 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: here in Baltimore as he has previously in his career 523 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: that I already mentioned Travis Jones, but the Ravens like 524 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,719 Speaker 1: his ability to get to the quarterback. Michael Pierce when 525 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: he joined us on the podcast, he does think that 526 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,159 Speaker 1: getting to the quarterback is something that he needs to 527 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: continue to add to his game and he wants to 528 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: do so. Yeah, I I think that there's been some 529 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: encouraging signs there from the outside linebackers. Also, let me 530 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 1: just go back real quick to the secondary because on 531 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton's and there's been talk about Kyle Hamilton's there 532 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: was a play where he got beat by Bailey Gaither 533 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: in the stadium practice and that clip has basically gone viral, 534 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,879 Speaker 1: and you know, Kyle Hamilton gets on Twitter says, man, 535 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting I'm getting roasted on the SAP right now 536 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: and be there. So you know, he's taken some heat, 537 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 1: uh for that play in particular. And of course it 538 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: was not like a good route or good defense there 539 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: by Kyle. It wasn't a good play. Rough play. Okay, 540 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: Bailey Ganther beat him on that play, um, But I 541 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: still really like what I've seen from Kyle Hamilton's Also, 542 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: you gotta keep in mind that like he's not an 543 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:29,440 Speaker 1: outside matchup corner, that's not what his his job is 544 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: going to be. He's gonna fly all over the place. Also, 545 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: with these drills, the defense is at such a disadvantage. 546 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: One on one drill in the middle of the field, 547 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 1: there's no there's no pass rush, there's no help anywhere. 548 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: The whole field is at the wide receiver's disposal. They 549 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: can run any route in the book. It's it's definitely 550 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: haveor heavily uh in their favor exactly. They're they're starting, 551 00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: they're starting two steps ahead on those routes and on 552 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 1: those drills. But I love those drills because they're an 553 00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: entertaining portion of practice, and like you get really competitive 554 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 1: portions there. But if the DV gets like a pass 555 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: break up, if the pest does not get completed, that's 556 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: a big win for the totally, totally. And also so 557 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm just not gonna overreact to one drill of one 558 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: practice without pads where Kyle Hamilton's got burned. I'm just not. 559 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 1: I still think that he is going to be an 560 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: excellent player, and I think that he's working his way 561 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: into this defense, Like there's a lot that goes into 562 00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,879 Speaker 1: that position, and also the Ravens want him to to 563 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: be able to kind of play a versatile role in 564 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: this defense like it's it's it's it's slightly different than 565 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: the lender bomb in the sense that like lender bomb, 566 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: you're the center. You're the center, you're the guy you 567 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: handle that spot. Where Kyle Hamilton's you gotta learn both 568 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 1: safety spots and then also maybe some of the stuff 569 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,920 Speaker 1: where you're coming up in the box and you're getting 570 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: used in unique ways. Like all of that is on 571 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: his plate. So he's got a heavy, heavy workload and 572 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:58,719 Speaker 1: he's got to learn the defense and all that stuff. 573 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: But do not count me as somebody who was concerned 574 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:06,239 Speaker 1: from one of those routes that goes viral. Look, uh, 575 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: you know a month ago we were all sitting here 576 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 1: talking about how Kyle Hamilton's gonna be an absolute monster, 577 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: how he's gonna be a stud that that does not 578 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: change because of one route. Nothing has changed on that front. 579 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: I'll just leave it at that. Um So, Yeah, one 580 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: of the person I want to mention before we sign 581 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: off here, Patrick Queen. It's really important for that Patrick 582 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: Queen to take another step forward in year three, really 583 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 1: important to this Ravens defense. And like the more that 584 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: you hear from coaches and teammates, the more I feel 585 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,240 Speaker 1: like they're confident that he's going to be a dude 586 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 1: this year. And I've seen it for him coming downhill. 587 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,800 Speaker 1: I told him about to practice one day. I said, 588 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: I saw that, like he shot that gap and was 589 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 1: four yards in the backfield for what would have been 590 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 1: a tackle on Justice Hill. I mean, when that dude 591 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: knows what's coming, when he reads it quickly and reacts 592 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: like I mean, it's hard to find a linebacker who's 593 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: faster downhill than Patrick Queen. Right now, coming downhill is 594 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: not really a his tackling has been a question that's 595 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: been a sore spot at times and years past. So 596 00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: Pat's coming on all that. You know, they're not doing 597 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: live tackling out here, but like that will be something 598 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: that he needs to continue to be on point about, 599 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,680 Speaker 1: right is his tackling, uh And his coverage has been 600 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: the other thing. And I think that we have seen progress, 601 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, progress in that area too. But it's it's 602 00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:30,880 Speaker 1: good to see him running kind of like we saw 603 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,080 Speaker 1: over the second half of last season more and more 604 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: when he seemed to be more in a position that 605 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: catered towards his strengths. I mean, the dude can motor 606 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: around the field. Well that was his you know, that 607 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: was the and I we've seen that at times. He's 608 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: chased down some running backs and he's shown off that 609 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: sideline and sideline speed at times. But like seeing him 610 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: shoot that gag like downhill really to me is like 611 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: he's he read that immediately, he knew where that was 612 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: going and it was great to see. Patrick Queen seems 613 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 1: to be really fired up to have Zach Ore as 614 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: his position coach and Mike McDonald as his defensive coordinator. 615 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 1: He knows both of them who were here his rookie season, 616 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: and I think that will make a difference. I think 617 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: the key for him will be to keep that processing 618 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: speed at a really high level once you get into 619 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: a game atmosphere, and you know, that's I think where 620 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: the test will come. Um, but I think I've been 621 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: I've been. I think I would say I've been high 622 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: on Patrick Queen even when he's got criticized, Like, I 623 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: just think that he's gonna end up being a really 624 00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: good linebacker for the Ravens. And I think that this 625 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: year if you if you watch the great feature video, 626 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: if you haven't done so, this is a little plug. 627 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: Our video productions crew went down to his house and 628 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,959 Speaker 1: Loisy end this offseason and caught up with him as 629 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: he was training, talked to his family and one of 630 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: the points that his family made and Patrick said this, 631 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: and his dad said this in the piece, like year 632 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: three for him has been a breakout season in high school. 633 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 1: It was his breakout season in college, and so now 634 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: he has that opportunity to continue that trend of the NFL, 635 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 1: and I think that he's on his way to making 636 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,800 Speaker 1: that happen. All right, So we're gonna take a quick 637 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: break when we come back. We're gonna get to a 638 00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: few year emails. All right, Ravens. Fans of sports, landscape 639 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 1: is ever changing, and this week is no different. Draft 640 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 1: Kings as a leader in daily fantasy sports and it 641 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: still has daily fantasy contest running for those who are 642 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: looking to have some skin in the game. So this 643 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: is simple. Every player has a salary associated with drafting them. 644 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: You assemble a line of a players, you try to 645 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,160 Speaker 1: stay under that salary cap, and then you sit back. 646 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: You watch your points pile up. So now you know 647 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: how to play. Download the Draft Kings app today using 648 00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: the code flock again. That code is flock. New users 649 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,480 Speaker 1: will get a free entry with their first deposit. You 650 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: can get that done at Draft Kings today. Read the 651 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: eligibility requirements. That's your favorite part. You love the eligible 652 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: It's it's you trying to make your eli Oh. You 653 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: have to really make sure you're on point with that. 654 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: It's like a commercial, you know that, the fast to 655 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: turn up the speed at the end of a commercial. Yeah, 656 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good at that. Yeah, but you were better. 657 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: You were to either, I'll give it to you. It 658 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: was not as robotic as my reads. All right, all right, 659 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: so we got some emails here. As always, you guys 660 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:11,000 Speaker 1: can email us at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 661 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: dot net. This is an email that's from Joseph eckert 662 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: Um and he says, go talk to Eric to Costa. 663 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if Joseph knows this, but that's not 664 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,479 Speaker 1: how it works. We don't just you know, run out 665 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: there and say, hey, I got some ideas for you. 666 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: But he says that after seeing the Shaun Watson news, 667 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 1: can we go can you go ask him if we 668 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:31,120 Speaker 1: can add a receiver and a pass rusher. October is 669 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: coming fast. Week seven against the Browns is going to 670 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 1: be a big game. So obviously Deshaun Watson, if you 671 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: haven't heard Brown's quarterbacks, to spend it for the first 672 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: six games. His first game back will be against the Ravens. 673 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: Week seven holds as it stands today. As it stands today. Um. 674 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: But to Joseph's question, like he's saying, go get a 675 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: receiver or a pass rusher, Shawn Watson doesn't change the office. 676 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 1: It doesn't, right, you can say the pass rush her, 677 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: so we have to be better. Yeah, that's his point, 678 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: that's his point based So we just elevate the entire 679 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't know. Man, Like we when we had Jeff's 680 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,040 Speaker 1: reback on he made the point that he's not ruling 681 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 1: out a pass rusher. And I've said many times that 682 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm not ruling out another receiver. But like, based on 683 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 1: what I've seen, I don't know that. I'm just not 684 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: convinced that you necessarily need it. Yeah, I would agree 685 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 1: with that. I think that you know, right player, right price, 686 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,080 Speaker 1: if that's sitting there, you know, and and you know 687 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: you're going obviously, you know, we could have injuries in 688 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:35,960 Speaker 1: training camp that could always affect things. But you know, 689 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 1: the Ravens didn't have a ton of salary cap space 690 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 1: to begin with, uh going into the training camp. Now, 691 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,760 Speaker 1: there were reports of a contract restructure that freed up 692 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: more space, and I think that that news got fans 693 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: all excited that something might be on the horizon, you know, 694 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: an addition might be on the horizon. But let's keep 695 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: in mind that Eric to Cos has been pretty clear 696 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 1: about his desire to always go into a sea in 697 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: with some breathing room under the salary cap so that 698 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: he can make trades, he can make additions to seem 699 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: if there are injuries and you don't have to go 700 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: completely you know, you know, thrift shopping for somebody like 701 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 1: I like to do all the time. Um, so like 702 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: he likes to have a cushion there of salary cap space. 703 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,800 Speaker 1: So Eric de Costa does not feel I think you 704 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 1: know that that money burned a hole in his pocket. 705 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: Like he's going to be judicious about that. Also, you know, 706 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: we don't know if the Ravens were to reach a 707 00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: contract extension with Lamar Jackson, whether that would impact this 708 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: year's number, what his salary cap figure would look like. 709 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: Uh this year, you know, um maybe the extension will 710 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,440 Speaker 1: be on top of this fifth year, you know, just 711 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: be beyond that in the fifth year he would play 712 00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: under what he's at now. We don't know, so uh. 713 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: I I just say that to say that the Ravens 714 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: I don't think are sitting here flush with cash and 715 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 1: just gonna scoop up who ever. You know, they're not 716 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: going to see the Browns. Oh you know they have 717 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson back. We gotta get better, Like, let's go 718 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 1: sign somebody right now. If they felt like they could 719 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,239 Speaker 1: get better, they would have done it yesterday. I don't 720 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560 Speaker 1: think that the Deshaun Watson suspension news has any bearing 721 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: on the Holler Ravens were constructing the roster. No um, 722 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,160 Speaker 1: but they could still add a wide receiver or a 723 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 1: past rssure. So just on the pastors in front. I 724 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: also mentioned this, Vince Bagel got some big kudos from 725 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: John Harball in terms of his physicality, his uh, you know, 726 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: always striving to be better and you know, with his 727 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: technique and all that like a glowing review from John 728 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: Harball and Vince Bagel. So don't rule him out in 729 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: this whole outside linebacker conversation. I don't think that he's 730 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,320 Speaker 1: ruled out at all. I think he's very much in 731 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: the thick of that. I think we're putting together fifty 732 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,360 Speaker 1: three right now. I will put him on. Yeah, he 733 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: has that versatility that he can't play inside outside that's 734 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: needed you know in a penche can play special teams. Um. 735 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,279 Speaker 1: I think that he may be playing his way onto 736 00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 1: the team as a veteran player. Just a quick if 737 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: you were at one position right now, what would it 738 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: be receiver or would it be outside linebacker, wider sewer? Okay, 739 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 1: I just I'm with you on that, and it's I've 740 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: already spent all this time talking about how impressed I've 741 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 1: been with the passing game, but I still think the 742 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:16,080 Speaker 1: depth is just so thin there. And so if you 743 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,400 Speaker 1: have an injury to Rashad Bateman and he's out for 744 00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: any period of time, then you can really find yourselves 745 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: in a sticky situation. Ye good, Yeah, alright? Another question here. 746 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: This is from Patrick Coon. He's fresh off his vacation 747 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: to the Gulf Shores. Highly recommends it, so welcome back again. 748 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,480 Speaker 1: This is a question about the Browns and Deshaun Watson 749 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,239 Speaker 1: and facing the Ravens in week seven. He says, Wow, 750 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 1: this game is a ways away. I'd like to get 751 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 1: your thoughts on here. Personally, I'd rather, of course not 752 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,959 Speaker 1: play him, but I don't necessarily mind getting the first 753 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,520 Speaker 1: crack at him either on this new team. He goes 754 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 1: into talking about how the Ravens had success against him 755 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: when he was in Houston. So what's your take? I mean, 756 00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: I guess I would say this. I think that obviously 757 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 1: the Browns trade for him and gave him this massive 758 00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: contract because he's good. He's good, you know, and they 759 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,560 Speaker 1: want they think that he's gonna be the They think 760 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: that he's gonna be the player that puts him over 761 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: the top. So that's why you give him two hunts. 762 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: They gave him two D thirty million dollars guaranteed. So yes, 763 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I've never been one of those people that's 764 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: always like I want to play the best. I want 765 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: all their best players. I want as few of their 766 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 1: best players on the field as possible. I would love that, 767 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 1: Like I just I want wins. That's what I want. 768 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: I want wins and whatever it gets a win easier, 769 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: that's what I like, right, And so I would rather 770 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: not face the Shawn Watson. But I ain't scared. I 771 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: ain't scared, right because you know, I think the Shawn 772 00:37:40,239 --> 00:37:42,879 Speaker 1: Watson is the top fifteen quarterback. Like do I think 773 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: he's like any let's be he hasn't played in what 774 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,279 Speaker 1: a year over a year, right and so like, and 775 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: he's gonna have the pressure on him in that game 776 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: is gonna be huge. Mt. Bank Stadium is gonna be 777 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: rocking the d R. You know, the Ravens defense is 778 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: gonna be fired up for that game, knowing if it stands. 779 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,440 Speaker 1: You know, this is we want to say something. We 780 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: want to show this guy's gonna be in the f 781 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: C North for a long time. First game, Yeah, let's 782 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 1: welcome him to the f C North. They're gonna be 783 00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: fired up for that. Yeah, totally, So it's gonna be 784 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: a good game. I I agree with that, And like, look, 785 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: I get the point Patrick that he will have been 786 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,360 Speaker 1: sidelined for a long time. You're separate. It is challenge 787 00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: still better than Jacobe were sent. Let's be on exactly. 788 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 1: But he's still a really good player. So like, I'm 789 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:29,280 Speaker 1: not like overlooking that fact. Yes he might be rusty, 790 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 1: but he's also a great player. So you add that 791 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 1: to the Ravens fan of me would love that Deshaun 792 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,399 Speaker 1: Watson is out there because it makes for a better game. 793 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 1: The Ravens employee in me says, no, I just want 794 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:45,200 Speaker 1: to win the games. Ever, he makes that more tangible. 795 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: That's what I want. And and like you said, we'll 796 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: see if the suspension holes of the NFL peels. It's 797 00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 1: still lots of questions, I think on that front, so 798 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: we always appreciate your emails. You can send us your 799 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: questions every single week to the lounge at Ravens dot 800 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 1: NFL dot net. Come up later this week. We're hoping 801 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:02,400 Speaker 1: to catch up with the player guests. We want to 802 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: have Tony Jefferson. That's our hope to try to get 803 00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 1: some time with him. Who's you know, we didn't talk 804 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: about him at all, but I think he actually is 805 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,200 Speaker 1: going to have a pretty important role on this team, 806 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: um and he's got a really interesting story. So we're 807 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: hoping to catch up with him and then also continue 808 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,920 Speaker 1: to give you our thoughts and observations from camp. So 809 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much for listening. We'll talk with you 810 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:22,560 Speaker 1: against Hi